Can we please just have a comfy VTMB thread?

What's so wrong about that?

but fans told me the the first game had shit combat, so this can't be any worse

I'd dig up my post in the archive that predicted exactly that, but it would be too much effort for what's basically a "told ya".

Atrium looks like a normie club, i hope other hubs have some seedier ones

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It's being made by literally who hacks but please make a $60 preorder.

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that face can't be real wtf

I'll give it a chance when it comes out - simply because I really like VtM. And there is a Tremere chick to waifu. But I'm not getting my hopes up.

NOOOO THIS IS JUST EARLY FOOTAGE... THE GAME IS GOING TO BE GREAT

The fact that Paradox is making it

>he thinks there's other hubs

I suspect it'll be like in Bloodlines 1. Team up with Anarchs, Camarilla, maybe Sabbat (yeah, right) or go solo.
I'll probably go Camarilla as usual. Unless the Tremere waifu wants to join me for a Lone Wolf ending.

Cute and comfy clan Tremere kindred are best kindred!

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Help

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The Sherrif will be with you shortly. Please remain calm.

>still no option to be a vampire hunter

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Paradox is publishing it.

Camarilla ending with Straus is canon

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Of course it is

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Actual vampire hunters in the setting are broken as fuck. A competent one would barely have any issues winning so they are kept dumb egomaniacs and zealots.

How many times do we have to tell the Nosferatu to stop making instagrams

ISOLATED

And then Camarilla got BTFO'd from LA anyway, so what's the point?

It's a game about vampires there better be some sucking

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Just don't talk nor mention the sequel, or that tumor of a book, or the Swedish Mafia, can't be hard right ?
But since you already mention it, VTMB2 looks like shit, the voice actors are bored out of their life, a fucking stoic neet have more facial expression than the characters in the game, the writing is basically cookie cutter NPC interaction, "I AM BIG BAD VAMPIRE, FEAR ME HOMAN", the combat is poor's poor's men Commended/Zeno Clash, the gunplay is something you would see in a shit student project who purchase some system from the asset store, the "exploration" are just AAA cheap tier cutscenes, "PRESS A to climb the wall", "PRESS A move across air duct in a instant", and the devs are fucking stupid, talking their asses saying this is going to be the "sequel you always wanted", except they already going back in their words with compass and skyrim fast travel.
VTMB2 have zero connection to VTMB, themes are completely different with the "realism", and the gameplay will not make you feel like an apex predator capable of raping eldritch demon ghosts or scary giant vampires.

Bloodlines 2 should have a slowed down Dragon's Dogma combat.

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>the box is still sitting in a warehouse somewhere waiting to be opened
I sure hope they didn't ship it to Seattle!

It's an RPG not a fighting game...expect Skyrim level of combat depth

True chads play Nosferatu.
Don't reply

How are they broken? They don't have that many super natural powers?

>inb4 in-universe strong faith allows you to materialize literally anything

You know as far as nosferatu go he would probably be fine walking out in public passing for a burn victim. You'd have to be a real asshole to just assume that he was actually a monster.

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Fuck you. That's gonna be the plot of VTMB2.

do you have a favourite npc to drink blood from?

I love the girl with the black dress who always walks down the alley near confession

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Oh you

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will be mediocre like cyberpunk 2077.
No game in the actual world today can surpass its predecessor. vtmb 2 will look like everything but a vtmb game.

I loved the optional goofy dancing in the game at the clubs, so this actually just excites me more

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>thumb make look like stevepost.

I need get out of this shithole.

The original was all animated by hand, this is supposed to be mocap.

I have faith in Silksong.

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iirc true faith can nullify supernatural abilities, this guy for example, he drinks vampire blood, and is illegal for vampires to interact with him, or talk with him.

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the atmosphere and questlines look amazing. I'm sure the dialogue will be good but the characters don't look as interesting as the ones in VTMB1. Still, the game will probably be consistent in quality instead of the unfinished VTMB1

just play Expedition faguette

REMINDER
youtube.com/watch?v=wfT7Bj0Zk7w&t=
youtube.com/watch?v=_s7O0OWohvE

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>Stats and skill points matter, combat feats will be checked. DnD dice rolling mechanics seamlessly embedded into the real time combat.
am I a dumbass for giving this any shred of hope ?

Yes, Paradox is involved.

I don't iunderstand your trail of thought. RPG mechanics in an RPG make you lose hope in the RPG?

No I'm hoping that's how the combat system will turn out. How stupid am I to have any hope of this at all is what I'm asking
are there at least a handful of developers from the old game involved ?

>are there at least a handful of developers from the old game involved ?
Mitsoda is a hack without the rest of the OG team. Do you know what game he developed on his own a few years back? Nobody ever talks about it because it's horrible, but here you go:
store.steampowered.com/app/239840/

Another dumb fuck can't see the forest for the trees. Ask yourself why they went out of their way to specifically show you this feature. They're trying to cash in on the nostalgia instead of making a game that could stand on its own, but at the same time they're denying a huge part of what made the original good. It was literally a "LOOK WE HAVE GOOFY DANCING, REMEMBER GOOFY DANCING, GOOD TIMES HUH?" Anyone who isn't a shill or a retard could see the signs from the beginning, but at this point the signs are so in your face, I can't believe anyone is still unironically hyped for this.

Only the music composer and one of the writers, I don't know who is the game director, or designer.

I think it's better to keep expectations realistic, but I still have cautious optimism for the game's story.

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Give $90 for the deluxe edition and support a shitty 20 hour game of cringe and SJW propaganda

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>Mitsoda is a hack without the rest of the OG team.
Yeah, I don't understand why people jerk off him so much, without the animation, or the music, or the gameplay, his work is basically useless.

He was pretty hot

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Dead state is not a bad game at all actually. Why would you call it horrible?

I honestly enjoyed the combat a lot even with how clunky it is. Most clans had unique skills and the powerful ones required a lot of blood. They were so close to nailing it down as the best combat system in any WRPG I've seen. In the gameplay trailers I'm seeing a lot of stuff that reminds me of Dishonored which worries me quite a bit.

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Here is your White Wolf writer bro
whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Olivia_Hill

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Because he's a quality writer. What, a game dev not doing everything on their own is reason to not give them their due credit? Get real.

So was she a thinblood like the others or not? Her prophecies/visions seem like a Malkavian thing but she's treated no differently by the rest of the group and sounds like she's lumped in with them by other kindred.

Can thinbloods still have traits of their sire's clan? Would a nos thinblood be horribly ugly but not get anything else like she seemed to get the voices and nothing else?

There must be a name for a fear of opening social media collages.

I'm sure vtmb would have the same cult following if was a text based rpg.

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Pre-order now and receive your skins from the first game =D
Also get that season pass and we might just add one of the original clans!

2 could end up real good like DXHR but that seems unlikely.

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>gameplay
Lad that was shit and you know it. Only good elements were the masquerade system and other shit lifted from the source, the basic combat, gear system, etc. were all pretty bad.

Irrelevant statement but anyway I for one would totally play such a game.

How about we dont talk about the sequel at all? Can we go back to the VTMB threads before the sequel's announcement? I want that comfiness back.

>He didn't like matrix inspired raids

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Not anymore he isn’t. He has become a pozzed little bitch.

I thought the first game's combat could be genuinely fun early on, when there was emphasis in being able to approach different situations in different ways. Like the beach house drug deal, where you could talk your way into the house and get yourself alone with the boss, or you could sneak around the back and turn off the lights first, or you could just eat the gate guard and run in guns blazing, etc.

It just started going downhill when it became a long linear drudge with the same two or three enemies in the same dungeon styled hallways for an hour or two.

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>I want that comfiness back
Same.

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No it could not? How would it ever end up being good?
>shitty devs
>shitty publisher
>focus on pronouns and other retarded shit
Look at what the devs have made in the past, absolute garbage.

What an edgy slut...she will be bouncing on my pale dong on launch day then get her ass diablerized

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>has made zero rpg's
>has made zero good games
>less than a year to fix whatever that shit they showed us the demo
OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHA

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But they have 1 (ONE) of the original writers LOL

B-BUT I ALREADY PREORDERED IT FOR $60 + TIP

VTMB wasn't made just by brian or rik, fuck, Brian didn't even wrote the game by himself, VTMB was made by Troika.

Creative Director
>Jason D. Anderson

Project Lead
>Leonard Boyarsky

Programmers
>Timothy Cain, Brock Heinz, Steven Moret, Jesse Reynolds, Steve Shimizu, Dennis Taylor

Design, Dialog and Story
>Brian Mitsoda, Chad Moore, TJ Perillo, Jason D. Anderson, Leonard Boyarsky

Anderson had a bigger role than Mitsoda.

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>not buying the $90 edition
What is wrong with you?

No fucking shit. When did I say anything to the opposite? Many reading impaired people around this hour. What's up with that?

>My only interests are those of my clan and the Camarilla.
>In that order?

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Now you're just making me want BTS footage so I can see some dude in a bodysuit making those jank ass movements

i thought metacritic didn't matter

Here is what you get in the Cyberpunk 2077 $60 standard edition.
Physical Items:
>Case with game discs
>World Compendium detailing the game's setting and lore
>Postcards from Night City
>Map of Night City
>Stickers

Digital Items:
>Game soundtrack
>Art booklet featuring a selection of art from the game
>Cyberpunk 2020 sourcebook
>Wallpapers for desktop and mobile

What do you get in the VTMB2 $90 deluxe edition?

What about games made in the last five years?

season pass and some "REMEMBER X" skins.

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Read the wiki page, autismo lord got butthurt over some edgelord at whitewolf and stopped being associated with anything WoD related. Also, it was a onyx path write.
He, and some others at onyx path, are one of the reasons I don't get the hate V5 gets as the output from OPP was at the same level or worse.

HAHAHA ‘MEMBER THE STOP SIGN?! MALKAVIANS WACKY xD

They made none because they have been greedy fucks milking Blacklight

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lmao but seriously mental illness is a big issue we want to address correctly mish malks were a mistake, please pre-order for the Jeanette skin

>creates transgender character
>gets locked into playing Malkavian

>left back in 2017 before V5
>wrote a bunch of V20/NWoD content no one cared about or complained about

okay

Sometimes all that separates a good developer from a hit game is a budget man. Remember until dawn? The devs of that were grinding for years, working on shitty mobile games and out of the blue they just blew it out of the water.

This game has a tiny budget under Paradox

You know something is wrong with dev team/process when in the first interviews, they can only comment on what first one did wrong.

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Except they killed Retribution.

They can’t even answer if the quest markers will be toggleable or not.

But paradox has been around for years and has milked countless pockets with all their DLC shit. The marketing is clearly there so I think it's unlikely that bloodlines 2 has a low budget.
Besides in terms of graphical fidelity it looks pretty good.

>You can't put the gameplay on the back of a box

I don't know anything about that game I'm just speculating and giving them the benefit of the doubt since similar things have happened in the past.

Well except for the hollywood sewers and the game being completely broken in launch
The way malks were done is so far down the list its like 7 pages back

None of their games are high budget, at all. And yes they do indeed mill their games with DLC.
The game does look alright in some areas, environtments etc. But the animations are extremely bad and low tier. Also combat feedback and other details that makes for a very janky and rough looking game

Best ending.

Paradox can't fund a triple A game, so while the budget isn't low, it sure isn't anywhere close to an ubishit title or an EA game.
I'm pretty sure it is sufficient for a decent RPG. Most of the problems right now seems related to polish, or art style(like UI and such).

I liked her better when she was in adorable goofball mode.

More often than not that is just a facade

As a bloodlines fan I can deal with jank that's for sure. As for the budget I never implied that it was AAA of course but it's no indie either. I know AA games are kinda rare nowadays but this definitely gives me that impression and I honestly don't think it needs to be anything but to be a good sequel.

>art style
They shouldn’t have went for such a realistic looking game. They should have made it more cartoonish looking instead as they don’t have the talent nor budget to pull it off otherwise.
Also they wont be able to polish all the bad animations and the discount Dishonored combat.

One I'm happy to fall for

>mocap
soulless

WHY DID CDPR NOT GET THE RIGHTS FOR THIS IP FUCK!!!!!

Jokes aside, isn't dancing at a club always going to naturally look stupid? You're either just standing there flailing your arms around or bobbing your head and knees like you're waiting on a mosh pit.

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vtmb's combat was janky but it felt good to twat the fuck out of someone with a tire iron, sequel combat barely looks satisfying
and i fuckin haaaaaaaaaate the blank facial expressions, and the feeding animation. feeding was sexy in the first game.

I liked the fishmalk
and honestly think that if you are going to have a malkavian clan in the game, and want to really make it different why not make it a fish malk? if you want to RP as a more subdued psycho just play as any other clan

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Uzi + Katana is all that you need

I prefer blood purge spam+scythe

Because it’s problematic for people with actual mental illnesses.

I thought it was fun just going balls to the wall crazy with it for the first game, but I still think it'd be interesting if the psychic visions and hallucinations were dealt with in a more serious fashion in the sequel.

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honestly, someone with severe tourretes would be pretty fishmalky in real life, so its not even that unrealistic (keep in mind that yelling out profanities isnt really what tourretes is about)

Went full Kung Fu Vampire and fisted everyone in the first game... then the final boss happened

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All you need is brawl

That’s not a real mental illness.
Real mental illnesses are depression and social anxiety.

Those arent real either.Grow up big baby.

>Female Malk looks great
>Male Malk looks like utter shit

This must be a joke but since we're on Yea Forums I'm not sure. You are joking right?

This is what lazy NEETs and weak faggots actually believe

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What? Are you retarded?

Malkavians are not appealing to people with mental disabilities. Theres a literally fuck ton of lore explaining what happened to them and why they are the way they are.

That's how people dance in clubs, moron. It's just autistic movements, more so when you're on something.

It's the hair

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Goth kid rave dancing

have sex

Or maybe the clothes..

>So you can't kill every vampire ? Damn

I'm the one user who posted it, dancing and the music are the games strongest points right now but I'm afraid they can't carry the game themselves alone.

Okay, so say you diablerize someone. How do you deal with them potentially overtaking your body? Do you have to pick someone weakened or with weak will?

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Diablerize a vampire that isn't incredibly old or extremely low gen.

Hold a ritual every now and again to show the dumb ante who's boss.

>No Hunter PC game that let's me kill any and all monsterfags.
A VTMB mod that let's me be a hunter sounds good now.

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I hope we don't have to diaberlerize someone legitimately cool.

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There's enough dialogue options in VTMB that you can play as a non-fish malk in my opinion. I enjoyed the direct yet cryptic, poetic observations and demands more than the humorous wordplay. Sometimes you sound like the main character from a Shakespeare play, and other times you play the jester.

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I liked that Malks were the only ones able to know V.V.'s real name.

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Malks are pretty awesome

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What games have the developers of this sequel made before?

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I sorta wish you had the option to ask more characters about their history.
Afaik, LaCroix and Isaac are the only ones you can ask and they tell you a bit

Some shovelware.

>Replaying vtmb1
Longer than I remembered honestly. I expected to be done by now.

I still need to do a Valk run. I've done Ventrue and Brujah, currently doing Tremere. Fuck me Blood Magic is OP.

There are some tidbits about Nines living through the thirties, and Jack being an old-school pirate, but I wouldn't have minded a little more backstory.

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>choker
You know she bobs her head on large cocks then sucks the blood straight from them when they cum.

See For what it's worth Blacklight Retribution was pretty fun.

Where u at? I have replayed vtmb1 a bunch of times, but still finds reasons to do it once in a while when getting bored. After the usual blind playthrough and min/max builds I usually like to RP as the character I'm playing. Idk time flies.

The black Anarch was a 'Nam vet, but I don't know Damsel's story aside from being a dumb but hot commie bitch.

Just retrieved the ankaran sarcophagus. I believe that means I've hit the final stretch but man I remember getting to this point a lot faster years ago. I *have* really been taking my time finding any side quests I can and whatnot this time, though. My character is exceptionally stronger this time around.

pretty sure dasmsel was just a college student protestor

Based succubus club poster

IIRC Damsel was a college Vietnam protester.

They shouldn't have named it Bloodlines 2. They should have done what the rest of the games in the series have done and given it a title regarding the plot of the game.

Redemption was about a Crusader who got embraced by Clan Brujah redeeming himself by spending centuries trying to save his lady love, who was a ghoul of Clan Tzmisce. Bloodlines was about a Fledgling who almost became a Caitiff but ended up being brought into the fold of the Camarilla thanks to the intervention of an Anarch, and in return they come into power as an 8th generation Kindred, as the twist was their Sire was 7th generation and didn't give a shit about a 9th generation Ventrue thinking they could say or do shit in Anarch territory.

Pretty sure old Gary was a movie star. And Ash was a famous actor that fell hard from the apex of his career.

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VTMB2 looks exceedintly grey which clashes with the colourful aesthetics of the first game really hard.

I wanted them to feel compelled to open up to me about their past. A lot of vampires hide their true names too.

All that you learn from other's talking abou them.

And then of course We Eat Blood was essentially Pride Month 2: Vampire Boogaloo. People forget Paradox already made a Vampire game as well as a Mage game. They just aren't available for purchase anymore as they were so bad they got scoured from the internet outside of mobile app torrent sites.

>Bloodlines was about a Fledgling who almost became a corpse
ftfy

Which is why I wish I could have taken that helicopter present in the Blood Hunt and give Damsel a ride in it.

It's obviously Lasombra. I never get tired of it.

>Blacklight Retribution was pretty fun.
I agree. I thought that game was pretty fun for a freemium game

No they ae not. The vast majority aren't Caiphas Smith nor do they have True Faith. Most are just dude who happen to be aware of vampires weaknesses. Same way most Vampires aren't Dracula

Youre supposed to feel sad

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I think Skelter only says she reminds him of Vietnam protestors, not that she actually was one.

>After the usual blind playthrough and min/max builds I usually like to RP as the character I'm playing
I do that too. Sometimes I'll mostly skip the dialogue and just try to beat it as fast as possible, and then other times I'll want to hear it all. It's also fun to listen to the full albums of some of the in-game bands while playing sometimes too. Or using cheats to just max out your character and screwing around like that.

Yeah same stuff here. I tried some of the mods but usually not too exciting for me, I only play with the unoffical patch latest version with plus patch.

Did you try the Clan Quest Mod? It adds a Sabbat questline that's pretty good. Matches the vanilla game's quality more closely than the other mods IMO.

Havent tried that one yet. What does it add besides a ending with the sabbath? A quest line for each specific clan as well?

It can because the fans are retards. It can be so much worse. That aside I don't know if the side-quests and atmosphere can possibly live up to the 1st game.

The nos characters make me glad the nos player has at least a symetric skull.

Why do they all keep their fangs out?

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fuck off back to /pol/ , it's our game now

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If you've got them, flaunt them.

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I thought it was naturally out or a dog or cat

Fangs are actually much more annoying to have than you might imagine. The reason movies and tv shows rarely have (serious) vampires with fangs is because they make it very hard to speak normally and to keep your mouth in a position where you look normal. In VTMB I noticed VV actually sounds a lot like a person with vampire fangs would.

Yeah and I think there are some new Camarilla quests too. Also a Kuei-jin quest.

>taking stances on right and wrong
>In the sequel of a game where you actively attack people to survive, lie, manipulate, and cheat indiscrimnately. In a setting that is actively opposed to kindness or goodwill.

>2 should have a slowed down Dragon's Dogma combat
I like DD but no.

Cyberpunk looks better then this shit.

Cyberpunk has less of a chance of being SJW trash then this

To remind the player that they are, indeed, vampires not a ghoul or a living human.

Because she has a slurry voice?

But yeah, imagine you already had fucked up teeth to begin with

Weak bait

Lads, I just want the take me now song

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To show which characters are vampires. In tabletop, most vampires of at least moderate humanity would have their fangs away unless they're feeding. There's other tells that the thing you're talking to is a vampire, but they wouldn't come across well in a video game.

Based

I bet you think the pyramid is pretty cool huh?

I wish they licensed some no name artist for cheap instead. I tried to Shazam it, also searched via lyrics but couldn't come up with anything. It's either some music composed for the game specifically, or an ultra obscure one where no info about it exists online.

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Skelter said he was in vietnam so that makes sense.

Speaking of which, what the fuck did he see over there? He hints at having some supernatural experiences before ever becoming a vampire.

I'm not sure, but my guess would be something related to the Keui-Jin or hengeyokai. Or ghosts/spirits.

>Be of the nosferatu clan
>born the most beautiful, they christen me "round head" for my human like features.
>While my clan lurks in sewers to gather info, I am given the burden to go to mcdonalds.
>While all kindreds' passions savw for blood have withered and died, eating food that would risk a masquerade violation still is worth it.
>I bet the tradodors eat mcdonalds everyday.

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Its pretty cool how vamps arnt even one of the stronger supernaturals out there
Hope we get to see a demon or a mummy in bloodlines2

The average vamp cant take a bunch of ganhbangers with knives at least how I play.

In the books there is actually a big range or vrowth potential for vamps. It starts at littler above an average human and goes past an apex werewolf.

Werewolves on the other hand exceed humans right off the bat but don't grow much from that.

Gary always threw me off a little, for a nosferatu he's still pretty goodlooking. I wonder if he's using some degree of obfuscate to hide his more major flaws or something.

Akshuly, you need to be thin blood to eat McDonald's.

More like fat blood

Wikis have some interesting stuff on some characters.
I didn't know Nines' name is Armando.

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And then got turned into a nosferatu...

There was a bit in the gameplay trailer where the PC ran over a very noticable manhole...giving me hope for Nos and, failing that, at least a below ground transit system.

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Seattle doesn't have a subway.

Skelter is a Gangrel apparently

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Currently playing Clan Quest Mod, spent like 2 hours trying to find a fix to not being able to pose Heather. The fixes I found don't work, as the file they reference doesn't exist.

best clan for a the most vanilla experience as a new player?

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Does it have mole people that will burrow you to where you need to be for a small fee?

Any clan but Malk and nos

T R E M E R E

Chadeador

Well, technically, cannibalism is the opposite of vegetarianism

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Huh

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I am positive there will be multiple endings. hopefully they are more varied than the first game though because what you said is basically what happens in the first game.

No. I love the first game but its so broken and unfinished that it sets the bar very low. as long as they have a good story there is no way this game can fail

Iirc early in the Napoleonic wars Belgium was a quagmire for the French armies, maybe that's when Lacroix was turned?

Not true. There is a Quality that lets you eat food. Though that's taken at char-gen

Don't care, Vtmb was heavily railroaded in regards to main plot. What matters is how different will clans be mechanically.

How strong are the two angels left in creation compared to vampires and mages

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>two angels
Someone hasn't read Demon the Fallen

the shit you are thinking of only happens with VERY powerful vampires like 3rd and 4th gen. diablerie on lower gens doesnt get you mind fucked

Sorry i read on the wiki that lucifer said there are two angels in creation left not counting fallen angels so what would there powers be

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>old game gets a remake announced
>endless shilling starts with daily threads
>any kind of critique by the old fans is shutdown instantly and "IT'S PERFECT YOU LOONY!"
I am tired of this cycle. I am tired of threads pushed to shill instead of discussing fun games that you personally enjoyed.

>old game with active community still talking about it on a regular basis
>finally a sequel is being made after many years
>people discussing hopes and fears for new sequel now that we have something new to discuss

HUURRRR SHIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLS!! ALL OF YOU SHILLLLLLLLLLLLS!!!

He tells you he was embraced shortly after waterloo

>game gets announced
>people are excited
>post about it
>faggots like you get butthurt that anyone is excited about a game that has not nearly enough information to prove its good or bad
a tale as old as time

vegans can look like the one on the right if they eat a bunch of refined sugar and carbs all the time too

See, the thing is in all of these old games, I was present when threads were naturally made.
And they are nothing like this.
But as soon as a remake around the hill it follows the same formula of constant spam, similar fucking cancer thread names and again, as mentioned before absolutely fanatical "fans" that don't let you point out anything bad about the new game.

The merit you're thinking of will let a vampire consume food, but they don't digest it and will have to vomit it up at some point.

>See, the thing is in all of these old games, I was present when threads were naturally made.
What were they like?

So? Ignore the faggot fanboys and shills, and the shithead detractors who want to hate every aspect of a game they know nothing about. Only discuss things we know+ VTMB1 and maybe your brain will release some fuckin dopamine

The difference is, as a vegan you'd have to be outright trying to get clogged veins, while meat eaters get this despite trying not to.
Saturated fats and LDL cholesterol are not memes, they're scientific consensus for a reason.

Not him, but people'd post bits of lore they're reading/have questions about more often, as well as character concepts and shit. Twice I got into tabletop games through these threads a few years ago.

They happened randomly, flowed naturally, they were born when people felt like talking about it and died after a couple of hours. Not this "schedule threads every day" none of this forced bumping all the time. You could genuinely tell that everybody actually played the game, or is new and is interested in checking it out. Discussion of future sequels allows for criticism.

>So? Ignore the faggot fanboys and shills,
Kinda hard when they are the ones who make threads over and over and over....

>and the shithead detractors who want to hate every aspect of a game they know nothing about.
Literally not a problem I have seen, and instead it's the opposite with people from point one being hell.

>Saturated fats and LDL cholesterol are not memes, they're scientific consensus for a reason.
Wasn't the consensus for a while that vegetable shortening is healthier than butter? And that directly without a doubt killed a lot of people.

>what is hype?

>science was wrong once, better go for anti-science this time

The chad flail

a marketing tool, nobody who actually likes these games, feels it's their job to constantly to hype shit up and make threads nonstop.

VTMB threads increased during Halloween and declined over Christmas.

NO NOSFERATU, NO BUY

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There are literally people saying "No it will not be good no matter what I see". Just because you're choosing to ignore that doesn't mean its not here and its not a problem. Any thread, started by shills or otherwise, is going to have people in it who are genuinely interested in the game, but I have a good feeling at this point that I'm preaching to someone who's not going to accept any viewpoint other than their own.

Just so you know, Paradox monitors Yea Forums(and likely 8ch, but I can't stand that shithole, it's somehow even more cancerous than here) and even puts social managers here to give answers and generate hype.
Other than that, plenty of people are genuinely hyped for the game and get upset with the whole doomposting and the autistic sjw spam.

no the only difference between the threads now and the ones before is that we have autists like you who cant get over a few minor distasteful things in the new game so you spam the threads with stupid shit like rudi posting all of which existed BEFORE the sequel was ever announced

Having a new edition makes it tougher to talk about the lore. Aspects of the lore that may have been true for Bloodlines 1 are no longer the case for the sequel.

Fuck, I forget, does Gary flaunt his past around or like to keep it on the down low? In a chronicle right now and we're suppose to go meet Gary next session but found some info about "Gorgeous Gary" from some old newspaper clipping and the internet. No idea if I should bother making a perception check when the next session starts or if Gary will just casually bring it up.

Nothing wrong with "hype" by dropping some details and interesting stuff.
I just don't like it when its so artifical, when it feels like a bot that auto bumps threads that are also auto generated.
If I can look at the catalogue and see a thread about a game be up every day, every day of the week, for months, it just can't feel natural, because it possibly can't be.

the thing is the real reason is mad is that there arent multiple people shitting on the game its really just him who is ass blasted and that rustles his jimmies.

most people are cautiously optimistic because yes there are reasons to be worried but that doesnt mean the game will not be good or fun.

He makes a mention of it when you first meet him. He sounds pretty bitter about losing his looks, but he's able to laugh about it.

>Just so you know, Paradox monitors Yea Forums

This is why i want these threads to be more constructive. I want paradox to see that we have valid concerns about combat and other aspects of gameplay and not shrug it all off because some retard keeps posting /pol/ shit

>is mad is that there arent multiple people shitting on the game its really just him who is ass blasted and that rustles his jimmies.
Ah yes, and here comes the old
>it's all one person and he is mentally ill
This is a common shitpost tactic.

Greentext strawmanning doesn't make you right. I'm not anti-science, but there are a lot of factors involving heart disease like obesity which is a common issue. And there are some studies showing that saturated fat isn't really a big concern if you're not obese, not a smoker, and aren't eating a lot of junk food on top of it.

> cautiously optimistic
VTMB2 looks like shit and have nothing to do with VTMB.

People are hyped that a game they love is actually getting a sequel and want to discuss it.
I spend most of my time in other boards and only come to Yea Forums when a game I want is coming out (and of course, after it is released). If when I get home, I open Yea Forums and there is no bloodlines thread of course I'll make one - where do you expect me to meme about Tremeres?

>have nothing to do with VTMB
its literally the sequel

>People are hyped that a game they love is actually getting a sequel and want to discuss it.

>I spend most of my time in other boards and only come to Yea Forums when a game I want is coming out (and of course, after it is released). If when I get home, I open Yea Forums and there is no bloodlines thread of course I'll make one - where do you expect me to meme about Tremeres?
And yet you didn't put in this work tier consistent spamming when the game wasn't announced.
Hmmmmmm

but at least there is soul in your webm

The pickup and drop thing could be a part of the thin-blood only segment. That's all the press has seen so far, and they seem like they're keeping the clan portion of the game under wraps until they're close to release. I imagine you get an apartment of your own and an inventory after the tutorial.

TAKE ME NOOOWW I feel ISOLATED ALONE APART

then why would you bump it retard? what is so hard for you understand that people are excited and want a place to talk and discuss said thing they are excite about? I personally think this game needs a lot of fixes before launch and the best chance we have at that is by keeping an active thread discussing said needs and these concerns hopefully seen by the devs instead of just letting the discussion die and wait for whatever comes out in a year.

I have a feeling that you will be able to keep weapons but you will only be able to keep one or two at a time and have the option to swap out said weapon if you want to.

>Jokes aside, isn't dancing at a club always going to naturally look stupid?
I guess some music is made to be danced to, but not really what's in the VtMB clubs. I've always thought trying to dance to that kind of music looked silly but it still feels good and the humanity gained from dancing is real

>we need to keep endless threads up at all times so maybe the devs see some concerns and maybe change something
that's really reaching.

>I want paradox to see that we have valid concerns about combat and other aspects of gameplay and not shrug it all off because some retard keeps posting /pol/ shit
That is a very naive though, Paradox would never give a shit, all they want is to keep the hype alive enough time to increase pre orders, they will shitpost, ignore or gaslighting any type of criticism towards the sequel.

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hi michel

Thanks user!

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Wait really, you can't play as Nosferatu?

Doesn't help that most gaming companies just listen to reddit and reddit just sucks them off

No Gangrel too.

>My third playthrough, trying to convince Jeanette and Therese to make peace with each other for the first time
>playing as Malkavian
>mfw I can barely even tell how they will respond to the twisted cryptic riddles I keep telling them

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no shit
when the sequel wasn't announced the old game wasn't really on top of my mind and I mostly spammed TSUUU threas on Yea Forums during my free time.

No they were cut. But free clan dlc is promised

can you please not rape a game I like for your own sick reasons?
Can you let people discuss these games based on when there is natural interest and desire?

Shouldn't two (three) Malkavians have an easier time communicating? You're both tapping into the madness network.

Not on launch. I'm sure it's going to be a "free" dlc, with the clan coming free but content related to it being paid.

General idea.
Take Seduction options with Jeanette, Take Persuasion options with Therese
Flirt with Jeanette, but DON'T give her the amulet
Act professional with Therese.

>there are some studies showing
Nutrition is one of those sciences where "some studies" can show anything you want. Or more correctly, anything the funding company wants.
That's why the consensus is so important.

So even though US has massive lobbies for beef, pork and eggs, the "common expert knowledge" isn't swayed that much in the direction they want.
The experts all over the world agree pretty well that saturated fats and LDL cholesterol don't just correlate with, but also cause risks for multiple problems, including atherosclerosis.

In b4
>but corn and soja have lobbies too!
Yes, and those aren't called perfect food either. Soja's unfavorable omega 6/omega 3 fatty acid ratio isn't hidden from the public, even though its high quality proteins are well-recognized.
Corn has the HFCS meme to worry about.

Will I be able to make Dracula from steve lichman?

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>its all shills making these threads! shills!
>paradox isnt in these threads, no sir. they wouldnt give a shit what Yea Forums thinks

well which one is it? I honestly dont think they would come here to generate hype because reddit is a far better platform to do that. the only real reasons any dev (or anyone relatd to said company) would ever look or post here is either to get feedback or give leaks in order to get feedback.

I managed to do it by just using persuasion. I already could tell that giving Jeanette the amulet would make it impossible. I vastly prefer Therese so pandering to her was easier in comparison.

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>Falling for the international anti-saturated fats and LDL cholesterol cartel's tricks

>thinks the developers are in the thread personally shilling
>instead of a marketing department that is hired from outside

>tfw didn't want either to die but played a charismatic-less Tremere, so I just console commanded' in the reputation values
Just some Tremere "magic", nothing to see here goys.

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but I have a desire to discuss the games user.

Fishmalk is clown world wackiness rather than being an actual demented person.

>I managed to do it by just using persuasion.
You need 2 points in Seduction to get the dialogue lines with Jeanette. I think the Unofficial Patch took out that requirement for some reason.

>"nooo! stop having fun!"

>Fishmalk is clown world

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Bioshock Infinite was also a sequel to Bioshock 2 and they removed every aspect that made Bioshock, Bioshock. B2 looks nothing like the original Bloodlines, the animations are sub par, the voice acting does not have the same tone from the original, and the combat just looks like pure garbage, the fact they remove Gangrel just proves it, they can't implement warform in first person without making it "overpowered", and the inventory system, temporary guns, breakable melee weapons, yeah, sure you will have a samurai sword or flamethrower and fight a giant supernatural create like in Bloodlines.
Bloodlines 2 have nothing to do with Bloodlines, they going for the "realism" over interesting and fun, if you want to make a "realistic" vampire game, but call it something else.

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It did for the first one or two, to make it more 'fair' in the requirements. The others still take 2 Seduction.

I'm playing a woman Malk because I can't take the male's appearance seriously, maybe that has something to do with it

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It does not, Jeanette flirts with both genders.

Jeanette flirts with both. Vtmb1, in general, gives below zero shit for your gender when it comes to flirting. I think that Chunk and Vandal are only characters who are locked only for female characters.

Romero and Fat Larry. It mentions your gender enough times

There's a gay guy in Chinatown.

>they going for the "realism" over interesting and fun
Did they say it?
I don't have much hope for B2 after they butchered the abilities and kept saying "sexy" in interview, but this sounds just too convenient, like they are intentionally fucking up at every step.
I've seen games ruined by realism and ruined hard.

>and the combat just looks like pure garbage
I'd say that's pretty faithful to the first game then.

>All women are bi, men make a distinction
Big Think

Yea, them too, but it's mostly neutral for everyone. I mean, you have Kilpatrick telling you that he doesn't swing that way, yet he gets seduced and becomes blood doll for you. Or that girl in Asylum tells your female malk that she isn't into chicks, yet the same story happens like with Kilpatrick.

>thinking marketing would bother with Yea Forums
>thinking devs never look to their community for feedback

Please don't be hot flaming shit, For the love of all that is at least be better than V5

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I'm expecting everyone to be bi in 2

>thinking marketing would bother with Yea Forums
literally happened before
>thinking devs never look to their community for feedback
Not big wig devs, only indie devs have the freedom of making decision and changes.

so what happens when gangrel is the first free dlc clan with protean as their signature discipline? because that is exactly what is going to happen.

There is also Mira. You will get an option to flirt with her as a female, but she will respond negatively to it, calling you dyke.

Based MAGIC NIGGA

but user these arent exactly big wig devs, if anything its the latter in that they are aware of what the community wants.

>calling you dyke
Fucking BTFO.

>giovanni upset by a lesbian
lol

Cyberpunk will be good

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Well she is Giovanni

>No animalism
Geez, wonder why Nossies and Gangrels were removed.

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>calling you dyke
Based and redpilled Giovanni.

both nosferatu and gangrel will have animalism as the general discipline and obfuscate and protean as the signature one, respectively. I hope.

who says they wouldnt get animalism? that could be a shared second discipline used by both nossies and gangrel.

>Mira herself has experienced her family's perversity firsthand by admitting that she has had older men hitting on her since she was twelve. Mira also uses heroin and she shared a needle with someone she thought was clean and not long before the player meets her she has been tested positive for HIV.

female malkavian is so fucking hot

Meh its pretty much confirmed that last years gameplay is fake as fuck
Also WHY THE FUCK did they censor the language when there were motherfucking BARE TITS on screen last year????

Except they will be "free DLC", patches, in later stages, and the fact they are removing before the release, makes me wonder if they are even capable of creating something worth.
They made a fun F2P FPS, and somehow, this game have a shit gunplay.

Didn't Hardsuit also have a hand in Killing Floor 2? I get that they just probably helped Tripwire shovel in low effort content but if they gleaned a little knowledge from that job, the gunplay shouldn't be that wonky.

Maybe the people who worked on Blacklight's gunplay left, and after that sold themselves to Paradox.

Tzimisce, while quite good, is only 3rd best. Gangrel track is next and Malkavian is at the top.

Probably microsoft being retarded as usual.

I really hope when they say "immigration" they mean a sabat takeover and not drumpf

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>Except they will be "free DLC", patches, in later stages, and the fact they are removing before the release, makes me wonder if they are even capable of creating something worth.

jesus there is no winning with you. even if they had it in now youd bitch

Now you're getting it user

>nail atmosphere and aesthetic
>lots of freedom and roleplaying
>dialogue seems okay, many options
combat literally seems like the only thing holding it back from being a big success, at this rate it'll go the same way as the first one which is a huge shame

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Better than getting embraced after Borodino.

I don't get all the fuzz about the combat, whoever was playing was using a controller, so all criticism is invalid

So can we talk about how the guy controlling the e3 demo sucked ass, and barely had the brainpower to turn the camera at more than a snail's pace? Or is it all dick-sucking and fatalism in this thread?

The gamespot demo is better.

well its pretty obvious how bad he was
embarrassing enough for them to scramble out a bunch of different videos of other people playing even though they all also sucked ass

So what's the thematic reason for Ventrue having Fortitude? They're mostly prissy types that need to talk their way out of situations, having a physical ability seems weird

Same with Toreadors having Celerity

Soul
Soulless

Except animalism, gangrel and nossies were part of the original, if they can't inplement these basic features on release, what makes you think they will manage to do it correctly in the patches ?

>No Gangrel
>No Nosferatu
>"Press X to climb wall" interactions
>Bad facial animations on key NPCs
I know it's pre-alpha
but come on

What clan would my girl be?

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I think the DE:HR type animation shit is one of my worst takeways from the demo. Still super excited, but the combat dodge, the climbing animation all look like shit and only take away from the immersion and the gameplay. While I'm on the topic, the fact that the character gets auto-locked and dragged to targets that they're meleeing also looks like shit. Seems like a cop-out to cover up the fact that the hitboxes aren't accurate.

schizophrenic here, kill yourself faggot.

as much as I don't like them she would definitely be a Toreador

wtf is a fishmalk

Wacky lol so randum malk

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I'm still moderately excited because it has one (1) of the main writers of VtM:B
But the combat looks like shit, which wouldn't be a problem since VTMB 1 had bad combat too, but this one looks less mind-numbing and more unenjoyable

How did VTMB achieve such god-tier atmosphere and what can modern games learn from it?

Anons ITT

Sound design and tasteful use of ambient music

be spookier and goofier but not cringe reddit goofy

This hotel is really fucking spooky

>That's some good fucking chicken

t's set in the World of Darkness and it uses the same subtitle for marketing purposes.

THAT'S IT.

Otherwise they're 100% unrelated.

>rebbit spacing
dude

So is there gonna be 3rd person view?

For those who have played the TTRPG:

How did you guys normally handle playing as Malks without going fishmalk?

What's so bad about the gameplay? I haven't checked any videos

It had a decent mix of humor and seriousness. Seems like a lot of games go too far with one or the other and it gets old quick.

They probably realise adding interesting clans later will give the game a longer life spam than adding everything right away and being left with the exotic clans that don't have as many fans.
Also, the original has more clans from the start but many shared skills, this time they are trying to make them more unique than just "oh, i'm prettier", "oh, i can't drink rats" etc.
It's funny though how you keep calling it a simple feature and yet find it important enough to bitch about it every time, it's almost as if it isn't simple and they know it.

I think an ABC choice between Anarch, Sabat and Camarilla would be nice.
I don't expect a lot really.
Make it so there is an actual Antediluvian and you choose who gets wiped out after diablerizing.
Get treated to 2/3 low budget animatics of your character killing the leaders of the groups you didn't pick followed by another animatic of the group you choose prospering.
D choice to actually instigate Gehenna and wipe them all out.

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It'll be an AC choice because Sabbat are effectively written out of the game in V5.