Looks shit

>show a whole direct packed with new features
>lol only 5 new things added
Sometimes I think you people seriously have brain damage

>Minor 'features' which add next to nothing.
If you think pathable snake blocks, being able to set screenlocked spaces, auto scroll speed, etc are minor features, you're a fucking idiot. I don't even make levels and know that shit is huge, especially when the dedicated level makers find ways to manipulate the mechanics.

all stars is just mario games - but soulless
fuck you

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Minor as fuck. People were emulating what the snake blocks could do before they were a thing.
Water blocks would have been far more impactful so we could have levels like pic related.
All stars is peak mario and without a doubt the most soulful.
Kill yourself tranny.

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The music examples are clearly down to one's opinion. I agree that the Athletic theme in AS sounds better, but the SMB Ground Theme in it is pretty boring compared to the original. Just because it uses more instrumentation and alters the pitch in some notes to make it sound new and unique doesn't actually mean it makes it better, in fact those pitch changes break up the progression of the melody and makes it jarring to listen to.

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>People were emulating what the snake blocks could do before they were a thing.
Never worked as well as having it straight in would. It also took more resources to bullshit it.
Again, you're an idiot.

Dumb all-stars poster

>extra enemies
>slopes
>can make vertical stages
>new gimmicks
>multiplayer
And that's only scratching the surface. Its definitely worth $60.

They're sequel proofing. Deliberately omitting features allow them to use Super Mario Maker 3 as a console seller for whatever comes after the Nintendo Switch. There are marketers online right now with their finger on the pulse of the consumer looking for what most people are asking for so they'll know where to take the next game. We'll see updates for Super Mario Maker 2 for sure, but they will probably not be very substantial.

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The updates for Mario Maker 1 were pretty substantial.

Soulless

>People bitching about a second Mario Maker game that has a whole slew of new shit being added
Yet the majority of faggots on Yea Forums buy the same COD bullshit every year. This place makes no fuckin sense sometimes.

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It's gonna be fun with friends. Don't tell me you DON'T have friends to play and laugh with, right user?

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>losing the costumes
>but you can play as luigie toad and toadette in solo
hmm, kinda mixed feelling there. Hopefully they give us a bit more choices to compensate latter.

I'd never claim that the use of more instruments automatically means a better tune, but in this case they do nothing but help. The originals ground theme is monotonous, the all stars version changes shit up to keep things interesting sound. Go listen to both again, from as early as 11 seconds in the All Stars one shakes things up.
The original is boring in comparison.
Of course it never worked as well, but it could still be done. There were far more important things to add than that shit which got neglected.
I can't help but liking the most soulful mario games.
>extra enemies
3
>slopes
>can make vertical stages
Yes, already mentioned
>new gimmicks
Garbage
>multiplayer
Wasted resources.
They held back too much.
They should have put at bare minimum 5 more enemies in instead of only 3, they should have added the Koopalings, they should have DEFINITELY added placeable water blocks, they should have night themes have the gimmicks be toggleable, they should allow you to put whatever mario related music you want on for your stage instead of what is given to you (I hate the music box shit for night themes)
Night themes as a whole are the biggest fuck up ever. All they had to do was take the so called lazy approach and throw them in as an aesthetic difference with no new changes.

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Multiplayer.

nigger

of all the enemies, he needs to come home the most. custom scroll was literally MADE for him

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I agree. What the fuck were they thinking not including him

3 enemies is still more enemies.
Slopes and vertical stages are a big deal.
Gimmicks are a good thing, faggot.
>multiplayer
>wasted resources
Hahahaha holy shit, you're just a seething autist who doesn't have any friends! No wonder why you hate it!

>3 enemies is still more enemies.
A pitiful amount.
>Slopes and vertical stages are a big deal.
Not by themselves they're not.
>Gimmicks are a good thing, faggot.
No they aren't, theyr'e fucking garbage. What are you, 12 years old?
>Hahahaha holy shit, you're just a seething autist who doesn't have any friends! No wonder why you hate it!
Cringe, what an absolute tranny.
Multiplayer being shoved into singleplayer games is pure cancer. I play actual multiplayer games with my friends.
There's a long list of games which are better played solo though and this is one of them.
Playing Terraria with friends was shit, solo was superior. Playing Mario Kart and Smash with friends is great though. Multiplayer has no reason for existing in this game and all it did was eat up resources for some shallow as fuck crap for retards that need that shit shoehorned into every game regardless of how bad it'll be.

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>>Slopes and vertical stages are a big deal.
>Not by themselves they're not.
nice 180 you did there on your argument. Holy shit, fucking sub humans.

I mentioned slopes in the OP.
Not my fault you're absolutely braindead.

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Gimmicks are great, anyone who doesn't have autism enjoys them because they spice things up.
You certainly don't have any friends, you're a typical NEET loser who lives in his mother's basement, I'll bet you're scared that everyone on the outside is a tranny.
Also there is no such thing as a game that is better played solo, literally everything is improved by playing with friends, you'd know if you had any.

>Gimmicks are great, anyone who doesn't have autism enjoys them because they spice things up.
Wrong again, they're hot garbage.
There's nothing fun about playing upside down and having your controls reversed.
>You certainly don't have any friends, you're a typical NEET loser who lives in his mother's basement, I'll bet you're scared that everyone on the outside is a tranny.
Literal unironic tranny throwing a tantrum because he got called out lmao, you can't make this shit up.
>Also there is no such thing as a game that is better played solo
Embarrassing. Imagine being so depressed that you think this shit.
You'll never pass as a woman, pedro.

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Imagine being this seething

Imagine being happy and defending companies that give you the bare minimum for 60$

alright I'll try

>There's nothing fun about playing upside down and having your controls reversed.
There's plenty of fun in that, it forces you to adapt and get good on the fly.
>Literal unironic tranny throwing a tantrum because he got called out
Yes, we've been over this, you're so shut in that you think you're the only one left and the world has encountered some sort of tranny apocalypse. We get it.
>Embarrassing. Imagine being so depressed that you think this shit.
Christ, imagine being so retarded that you think having fun will make you depressed. You should just kill yourself, literally, what's the point in even living if you're just going to be a miserable sack of shit living in a basement 24/7?

Based.

Not an argument.

You're forgetting the new forest (with actual water), desert, sky, and snow themes, the fact that each theme can now be set at night with new gimmicks, multiplayer, 3 new playable characters, a story mode, a new powerup (two if you count the car), new gimmicks like the claws, new songs, and more than just 3 new enemies (from the top of my head, they added Charvaarghs, Bullies, those springboard enemies, Skipsqueaks, Ant Troopers, Goombrats, parachutes that can be attached to enemies, Banzai Bills, Angry Sun, Porcupuffers, Boom Boom, Fire Bros...), new gimmicks like the claw, icicles, whirlwinds, ON/OFF switches, snake blocks, vertical sections, auto side-scrolling options, and probably more stuff that I'm forgetting.

you're a real dumb motherfucker

nigger

Bait or autism.

>There's plenty of fun in that, it forces you to adapt and get good on the fly.
There's literally nothing even remotely fun about either of those.
>Yes, we've been over this, you're so shut in that you think you're the only one left and the world has encountered some sort of tranny apocalypse.
No but I do know you're a tranny. Your putrid kind makes it abundantly apparent when you're around.
>Christ, imagine being so retarded that you think having fun will make you depressed.
Slapping a half baked multiplayer onto single player games does not make them fun. Single player games will always be more fun and technical when played as they're intended.
>You're forgetting the new forest (with actual water), desert, sky, and snow themes
Good additions.
>the fact that each theme can now be set at night with new gimmicks
Gimmicks ruin the night theme as well as being forced to listen to the shit tier music box themes that play in night mode.
>multiplayer
Literal garbage and waste of dev time.
>3 new playable characters
Not as good as removing hundreds of costumes.
>a story mode
Which nobody cares about.
>a new powerup (two if you count the car)
Aka Mario 3D World shit which is its own thing.
>new gimmicks like the claws
Minor addition
>new songs
All of which sound like shit.
>and more than just 3 new enemies
Wrong, all of the 3D world shit you mentioned is irrelevant since they're tethered to the 3D World style which I already mentioned.
>icicles, whirlwinds, ON/OFF switches, snake blocks
Minor additions, some of which could already be emulated in the first game.
>vertical sections
Good addition
>auto side-scrolling
Already had it

So basically everything I said minus the new themes.
Still missing water blocks, still missing all stars stuff, still missing actual good enemy additions, still missing koopalings.

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Ah well dude, if you're so bitter and pessimistic then try something else like Lunar Magic and/or SMBX. They're by far the best Mario editors out there and will help you create absolutely anything you can conceive. Look them up. Pic related is a level I made in SMBX, with water blocks and a rising/lowering water level gimmick.

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>There's literally nothing even remotely fun about either of those.
There is if you actually know how to have fun. But you made it clear before that you're scared of having fun because you think it leads to depression.
>No but I do know you're a tranny. Your putrid kind makes it abundantly apparent when you're around.
I'm not, in fact most people in the world aren't. You would know this if you went outside.
>Slapping a half baked multiplayer onto single player games does not make them fun.
Its not half baked at all, they clearly put effort into it.
>Single player games will always be more fun and technical when played as they're intended.
You are wrong, but you'll never realize it if you never get any friends.

Basically you're just an autistic NEET that's in denial about everything. Seriously, kill yourself, I'm sure your mother will be happy that she won't have to waste money on tendies anymore.

game's gonna be litty as fuck

Do the new backgrounds, vertical levels, new sound effects, tag search, multiplayer, finish conditions, grabbers, snake blocks, controllable screen scroll, different speed pipes, on-off blocks, on-off tracks, on-off conveyors, and the sun moon system not count as new things that would be worth $60?

asking for a friend...

The Lunar Magic and SMBX stuff are leagues ahead of the shit in Mario Maker, I do use them.
>There is if you actually know how to have fun.
Kick and scream all you want, reversed controls and upside down garbage will never be fun.
>I'm not
You clearly are.
>Its not half baked at all, they clearly put effort into it.
What an absolute corporate bootlicker, that multiplayer was shoehorned in with 0 effort just to drain single digit IQ retards like yourself.
>You are wrong
I'm right, as per usual

Keep the cope posting up tranny, I know you've got a serious case of PTSD for whenever I post.

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look at you, man. you won! you won the argument! good job.

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>he thinks I'm the one who need to cope
You're just such a pathetic person user, seriously, you think everyone is a tranny, you hate having fun, you don't want to have friends, you think you're some hot shit and feel the need to post reaction images constantly, like goddamn, its really fascinating. I've never seen a person in this much denial.

>The Lunar Magic and SMBX stuff are leagues ahead of the shit in Mario Maker, I do use them.
Ah, very cool then. Have you made any stuff in them you can show? Or do you have an account in the SMBX forums or SMW Central so I can look up your stuff?

Shitposters forgetting how much Mario Maker did for the Wii U are in for a rude awakening when it releases for a console people want.

>Coping because you got BTFO
Loving every laugh tbqhwy
We've already established that you are a tranny though, and that I don't hate fun, I hate gimmicks which are anti-fun, I also don't like shoehorned in multiplayer for games that were made to be played singleplayer.
You have nothing nigger, you've consistently got ruined throughout the thread and I'll keep embarrassing you for as long as you post tbqhwy.
It's all too easy, bootlicking trannies don't have the intellect required to debate me.
The shit I've made in them I usually make for myself rather than uploading them online.
Nobodies saying they won't sell, though.

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>We've already established that you are a tranny though
We certainly haven't, because all that you've done is try to call anyone you don't agree with a tranny.
>I don't hate fun, I hate gimmicks which are anti-fun
Gimmicks are fun, and multiplayer is fun, we have established that you hate both, and therefore, you hate fun.
We have also established that you think having fun = being depressed, which cements the fact that you're a retard.
>I also don't like shoehorned in multiplayer for games that were made to be played singleplayer.
Super Mario Bros. has had multiplayer since its very first game, it doesn't matter how much you detest it, the multiplayer was in no way shoehorned in.
>You have nothing nigger, you've consistently got ruined throughout the thread and I'll keep embarrassing you for as long as you post tbqhwy.
Nice coping you're doing there.
>It's all too easy, bootlicking trannies don't have the intellect required to debate me.
It doesn't take any intelligence to debate you because you're a retard. Your argument consists of nothing but fun=bad and everyone you don't like is a tranny.

Would it be possible to make a level that has a surface made entirely out of snake blocks?

>Looks shit
Thread topic discarded. Instead, we're gonna talk about level ideas we can actually make now that we have the new features.