Has there been a time where "voting with your wallet" has actually worked on a game company?

Well, yeah. Plenty of games have failed and didn't get sequels. And in reverse, plenty of games did surprisingly well and thus did get sequels. It happens all the time.
If you want specific examples then Dawn of War 3 was shit and killed the franchise since nobody bought it. Souls games went from Demon's Souls getting an Asia only release since nobody thought it would sell in America, but enough people imported it that the ball got rolling and it just got bigger and bigger so now Souls games are fucking massive.

Why the fuck would I EVER pay for a game once I downloaded it? No matter how good or amazing that it broke grounds it is, I'm never going to pay for a game once I played it fully. Why? Just to have it lying around in my library and I never touch it again? I pirate JRPG shits too. The only way to prevent me from doing so is to add DRM, and Steam and Stadia is doing it the right way, by Denuvo and streaming. It's the only reason why I was fooled into getting Total War Warhammer, took a year for the game to get cracked.

this can't be real

Only for games that don't attract normies.

>t. idiot nigger

Didn't CoDWW2 flop after the "Don't like it? Don't buy it!" or was that Battlefield?

TOR

>vote with your wallet by not succumbing to microtransaction
>one vote is cast
>retard sitting next to me buys 100 microtransactions
>100 votes are cast
it doesn't really work unless you piss off the galaxy whales

Stay mad, I'm pirating your shitty anime games all day every day, and when the Nintendo Switch emulator gets more refined, I'll pirate that shit too and all the games in it.

voting with your wallet works like voting with your shares in a company. in the old single-purchase system, everyone received more or less the same voting power. there was only one thing to buy and the difference in prices paid were not very big. but now, games have an effective way to scale spending per player, which marginalizes those who are too poor to buy things but still possessed by a consumerist desire to own every worthless trinket that the game has.

tldr voting works every time, but you'll never be on the winning side

>Why do they only make shit like fortnite that sells well now?
>Why do all these shops have bars on the windows?

TOR still has one of the largest MMO populations though.

BFV

Not unless you're a while

Yes. Every game is proof of it more or less.

The only instance where voting with your wallet matters:

>"Localizing this series isn't worth it, because it won't sell"
>Oh hey, localizing this series makes us money"

Kek. Less traffic than my blog.

This, the problem is getting everyone to do it and there's always more suckers.

It doesn't really work due to the fact there's a limitless amount of braindead retards hellbent on consuming anything that is advertised enough

DmC: Devil May Cry is the major one, I would say. The absolute refusal of purists to promote or buy the game guaranteed that the series wouldn't go the way of Dead Rising.

Worked so hard, there's a DMCV now.

It’s the only effective way of expressing your disdain outside of screeching like a monkey and throwing shit at their headquarters

I forgot the name, but there was one company that got fucking bankrupt it was recent news last year I think

It works all the time. The problem is that the majority of voters are idiots.

What exactly? That some poor guy launched it recently?

And thank the lord for that.

>This post got more traffic than the game

DmC was such a flop that Capcom had to make DMC5 just to not have their franchise die forever.

It works: the few whales with large wallets vote for shit games to live.

on EA as of the last 3 years or so, yes.
they are still not quite getting it, but it had a definite effect on them.

Fortnite is free

misclicking games in your steam list happens all the time.
if I had it and wanted to play lara croft and the temple of osiris or lego hobbit, it would be just a few millimeters away.

Overwatch, then. Whatever the current style of cash cow is.

free to play, but costly to enjoy, and full of magnificent peer pressure, FOMO, and envy.

it works when you're rich

How can you even compared a blog that is free to enter from any browser to a product that needs to be bought first?
Come on dude

Seeing how majority of people on Yea Forums recommend the 'pirate and then buy' attitude it does work to some degree. Some anons do buy it if they thought the game they played was good and more from the people that made it.

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>and more from the people that made it.
*and want more from the people that made it

>literally who twitter poll that doesn't even show the amount of people that voted and even hides the amount of likes/retweets so you can't even gauge from there
That's a yikes from me dawg

>implying that f2p online only games that will be taken down and unplayable once the publisher starts losing money aren't the best way to make money off of games now

The answers to that poll sound like virtue signalling more than anything.
Make your game have a fucking reason to be bought rather than pirated and I will buy it. Something like frequent updates and lots of mods on the workshop.

In late capitalism
No, people will buy your shit if you have a large consumer that love your brand for no reason

yeah people bought a shitload of lootboxes so they're in almost every AAA game now

That's literally the third choice on the poll you fucking nigger.

Did I say it wasn't there? Fuck off retard.

>Brand loyalty
>A late capitalism only thing
Go back to leftypol retard

yes

Battlefield V, devs literally told people not to buy it so they didn't, oops

>The answers to that poll sound like virtue signalling more than anything.
It's a common sentiment found in studies on the effects of pirating. Pirating generally has no effect on sales but in some cases even improves sales for that very reason.

You're just being obtuse and hardheaded. Stop giving us pirates a bad name and support your developers.

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yeah, but it probably didn't do enough to matter
how much did BFV fucking up or Fallout 76 being awful actually hurt EA or Bethesda?
They're huge companies that can afford to take the hit or still make money because of name recognition
and if they need to make some cuts then some small jobs get cut and the people who made the stupid decisions don't care

Did you misquote? I don't get what your post has to do with mine. I said I buy the games I pirate when there's a good reason to do so.

But this isn't about you.
It's about people who pirate a game, and then still end up buying said game.

Yes and I'm saying they're idiots because if they voted for mod support then developers would put effort into getting that for their games more often.
Instead with those results the dev can just go "youd help me a lot :((( pls" and get the money.

>single choice poll instead of three point transferable vote
Why do people think that this means anything? Do you really think people are so simplistic? A slightly different situation can mean people react very differently.

it went free to play before dying

I'm pirating the Dragon Quest games right now, and still plan to buy 11S when it comes out.

It does work its just often examples where people are calling for people to vote with their wallets are minor issues that most people don't give a fuck about.

It naturally happens with loads of stuff, you just can't force it

even if it doesn't chsnge the ststus quo, why would you buy something you know you won't enjoy?

vote with your wallet is a term created by the same companies. you have literally no voice in the grand scheme of things. the only outlier in recent time was EA's battlefronts 2 which was still a financial success thanks to fanboys buying hundreds worth of microtransactions.
unironically based and redpilled

Federation Force

>he fell for the tortanic meme
kek
TOR is still making like $100+ million a year for almost free for EA and has been for years

that's sad as fuck lmao

I don't know, I've literally never had to play a game with microtransactions and I play mostly multiplayer games. Let the whales have their p2w shitheaps.

The point of “vote with your wallet” is not “punish a game publisher with financial ruin and inescapable bankruptcy”.

It’s “send a message that this is not the kind of game I want, so the next game will be different”.

People always seem to act like if the studio is big enough, they won’t care, as though being able to weather tens of millions in lost revenue without shuttering their doors means that they are perfectly content to have lost tens of millions in revenue.

A flop game is still a flop. In the (likely) event that the publisher survives the flop, unless they are pants-on-head retarded, they will not make the exact same kind of game again, because they don’t have any particular desire to keep churning out flops.

This is how it works.

People act like “vote with your wallet” has failed when it doesn’t prevent things enjoyed by millions of people, like Call of Duty or gachashit, from being made.

It’s about ensuring that there’s still a market for the shit you do like - fears of an industry dominated by whales and mobiles shit are as unfounded as the gen 4 fears of the industry being taken over by FOS games. There is money in catering to you as long as people like you exist.

Voting with your wallet is like regular voting.
1) You should always do it, because it costs you nothing.
2) You don't affect the overall picture alone.
It makes sense that you should not spend money on games you dislike. And if other people do, it's their money to waste
It's not like good games will stop being made.

Who's that one dude playing all by himself?

Cliffy B

Enjoying his billion dollar franchise.

i'm getting rune factory 4 special and rune factory 5 as soon as it's localized

Absolutely. When was the last time you saw an RTS on console?

youtube.com/watch?v=UIQtlQl783M

sw vagina, battlefield vagina

No, more people are going to be playing games as years pass so numbers will always rise.

>get angry that "vote with your wallet" doesn't work just because YOU chose not to pay
>UHHH ONLY MY VOTE SHOULD MATTER I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF EVERYONE ELSES VOTES IF MY VOTE DID NOT SWING THE RESULTS THEN IT MEANS THIS IS A FARCE OF A MATTER UHHHH THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY AT ALL WE ARE LIED TO AND BRAINWASHED