Was it worth the wait?

Supposed to cancel out some of the noise from blower style fan
considering they max out at 39? Dba than 45ish for older blowers it must work somewhat especially since sound is logarithmic

>no RTX

Thats like saying

>no hairworks

Its a gimmick for drooling faggots who dont know what theyre buying.

>RTX is a gimmick
You're clearly to stupid to understand why RTX is important and why people interested in it would find it so useful.

Please go back to your toys, child. This is an adult site.

Are you retarded

They've been doing it since day 1. Midrange gpus costs 600 dollars for fuck sake

Youre clearly too stupid to understand you're paying for features that will be obsolete when it comes to fruition and in a fashion thats presentable to consumers. You're paying for their R&D that you wont reap the benefits off with your purchase moron. Others will. Youre unwillingly funding a kickstarter, unless youre doing it willingly, in which case you're a sucker.

>bigger, newer, and hotter chip
>barely beats a 1080 from AD 2016

it's pretty fucked up how it's a duopoly. Why aren't chinks making their own GPU tech for PC gaymen

learn to read

RT is part of DX and Vulkan you moutbreathing retard. It's like saying that nobody would use programmable shaders and stay on DX7 fixed function.

Nice, too bad it doesn't translate to real world gains. Keep paying for make believe.

You gain visual quality, you dumb zoomer. People used to turn setting to ultra and slog at 20fps in crysis and didn't care.

There's no reason to fund the tech right now you idiot. He's right, you're taking a risk of you purchased an rtx card

Speculation and nothing more

all i wanted was a 7nm 580 tier gpu for itx, but no amd is retarded.

I'm not saying that you shoud buy a card, retard. I'm saying that retards dismiss RT as something that won't get traction and fail like GPU physx or amd's abortion trueaudio. It's a standard in the graphics APIs now.

>buying new GPUs past 970
That was the last time a GPU had good value for the money.

ever since bitcoin mining both companys became more jewish

>No one cares about their new tech to combat DLSS
digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-radeon-image-sharpening-dlss-ray-tracing-e3-2019/

What are good cards for doing 1440p/120+hz?
It seems like a 2080 is my best bet without going into 4 digit costs.

Yeah that requires high-end GPU.

if I understand it right, next week nvidia is announcing some new versions of the rtx cards so the current ones should drop in price, so you're better off waiting a few days

back in the day you bought a new gpu so that you could even boot the newest games. now you buy a new gpu to get 5 more fps and higher resolution.

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3600 and 3700x look amazing. I want one, but new motherboards seem pretty meh for the price. Not sure what GPU to pair with it, might look for cheap 1060 for starters and wait for something better.

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No, shit is overpriced as fuck and not worth it.
Its a mid end card for $500 and $400, both versions were DOA and with the upcoming NVIDIA refresh they will be totally useless.

I want to upgrade my 1070 already and i dont want to pay for a overpriced card.

First I'd heard about it. Sounds like a good idea.
Hopefully the new AMD cpus match their claims, or can at least match a 9700k

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NVIDIA refresh, all cards will be moved one tier up, the trick is that they will keep the same price.
2060 Super will be a 2070 rebrand.
2070 Super a 2080 rebrand.
2080S a 2080Ti rebrand.
And the Super 2080Ti will be a new chip.

So now the cards are somewhat worth their price but still expensive.

Last time I bought PC game that straight up just didn't work on my pc was Oblivion.

but yeah, last few years has been so boring for new technology. "New" stuff they bring out is just same shit with better cooling or uses less power.

Man I haven't had an nvidia card in a decade, and I'm seriously thinking in getting a 2060. Its 300 fking bucks lol, its not like you pay anything extra for RTX. Its part of dx, its not something nvidia came up with. Its just something AMD didn't implemented yet because... reasons. And saying RTX is a gimmick? Lol, you can easily see the difference, and all new games that come out from now on will have it.

why is it on the floor?
because it's dropped

RTX is a meme and everyone knows it.
Only a few games support it and they had to use an old Quake game to help showcase it.
Unless Blender supports this RTX support there really isn't any reason to get an RTX card.
Takes forever to render a 3D model with ray tracing in Blender.
Especially an animation.

I can't wait for an actual 700$ replacement for the 1080ti, even if it's a used 2080ti. Go navi and go super fuck you first time round nvidia win my love back

I love used GPU's I bought a 1080ti with a busted fan shroud for 400$ in like a year or so ago slapped 15$ worth of case fans on it and I'm still winning the Price to performance battle

Crysis looked fundamentally different on medium and ultra. That cannot be said for modern games.

Some games are still made well, just mainstream ubisoft shit ain't

youtube.com/watch?v=UHmCX35gRxs

shame about being epic exclusive

>muhh wet floors

why? timmy tencent paid for your copy, just pirate it and enjoy it without having to install a store client that lacks a fucking shopping cart.

No it's AMD being 1/2+ years behind Nvidia/Intel as usual.

ITT: seething amdpoorfags

>tfw upgrading from a 760 to a dirt cheap 1070
I'm never buying a pc part from a store again.

no it sucks. way too expensive for what it offers. you can get nvidia cards with similar performance for around the same price and they offer features like RTX which, even if you think is a meme, is basically free if you're paying the same price as one of these amd cards.

The effects look nice on the windows but the floor looks like the had an army of jannies mopping them constantly

Important NPC is a janny.

>enjoy your dirty mirrors

typical AMD fans
>"j-just wait for the next video card! it will be better than what nvidia has to offer!!!"
>card comes out. its bad.
>"j-just wait for the next video card! it will be better than what nvidia has to offer!!!"
>card comes out. its bad.

Why is it bent?

Always waiting never buying now. A watched pot never boils and I wanna game now not 1 year from now. Just buy used if you are on a budget. Used high > new mid range 4/5 times always

>Only a few games support it
its almost like its new tech... woah...

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If Nvidia lowers prices, then AMD will undercut them again. For the first time since 2014 AMD has a genuine production cost advantage.

Unreal and unity now have DXR(RTX) plugins that are backwards compatible with existing engines even their own lighting systems and the console makers are talking all about it. These new AMD cards do not have any dedicated hardware for Raytracing like RTX cards and the alleged console specs include navi and hardware accelerated Raytracing. The 5700 will raytrace probably as well as a gtx 1080 or ti does and that's nothing to white home about (still a pretty slide show tho). AMD already said Navi+ next year is gonna have dedicated Raytracing hardware. If you're buying a GPU now you need to assume you're going to encounter Raytracing. If you have no plan to use it but the 5700xt it's a cool card. But if you want to use it get an RTX card ornwait for NAVI+

So why would you buy a shitty overpriced card with a technology you have absolutely no use for, you absolute brainlet?

>wanted to wait for Navi
>shit was taking too long
>4 months ago bought a 2080
Well I don't regret it that's for sure.

Because why would you buy the Radeon 7 that is around the RTX 2080's price and power but has no Raytracing hardware on it.

are you stupid? because its a luxury i can afford.

>absolutely no use for
yep youre stupid

i just decided and bought a new sapphire vega 56 pulse for 300. it will be much more fun to tweak than 2060/5700

Get a cheap AIO and bracket for it and undervolt and overclock the fuck out of it

Does he do it for free ?

did you spout the same dumb shit when tessellation was first introduced with first-gen DX11 graphics cards?

can't wait to upgrade to zen 2 though, been on my 2500k for far too long and fuck intel

>AMD
youtube.com/watch?v=u5YJsMaT_AE

I would wait till 2021 both the new Xbox and PS should be out by then and since RT is the new gimmick for both of them a lot more games should support it.

Wow you are literally fucking retarded

Remember when PhysX had dedicated cards?

this
having played around with my vega 64 I can assure you that core OC is almost pointless, vega is by design bottlenecked by memory bandwidth

Has AMD ever beaten Nvida?

In value, typically always.

ill stick with nvidia.

I'm getting a 1070 Sea Hawk for $200 from my friend that's getting rid of his shit to upgrade. Feels good man.

the 2060 and 2070 have a 5 fps difference most of the time and 10 fps difference sometimes if youre lucky if thats what theyre really doing its not worth it

and both consoles will have AMD hardware. By the time raytracing becomes the norm rather than a gimmick, it won't matter which brand of card you buy.

Ray tracing is not a new tech lmao.

u dont need rtx for raytracing, nvidia succesfully shilled you

Nvidia started out with nothing while ATI/AMD was king of the discrete gaming space.

Used Nvida is awesome 500$ 1080ti all day as low as 400$ if you deal hunt

Why is there a fucking dent in it? Was that the only card they had?

except it's not retard. RT is such an important thing now that even though AMD doesn't have RT tech in their upcoming graphics cards, the next gen consoles which are going to be using variants of those are going to have custom made RT hardware. both sony and MS are going to be fully supporting it next gen and MS are the ones who wrote the RT API on windows (DXR). amd are the only ones right know who think its a gimmick. all the other big companies are investing heavily in it.

Still rocking the 8800gt.

im smashing my rtx 2060 and buying this out of spite for nvidia

>RX
>i want my game to run like shit and look like someone spilled a bucket of water

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heres your rtx bro
youtube.com/watch?v=_KaDRDjA4OE

Dick rockhard baby

this tbqh, DooM Eternal and Cyberpunk 2077 are going to have RTX as well. It's going to become the norm, although I might as well wait for Ampere next year to replace my 1070. AMD is wrong on that one.

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lol what the fuck did you just say?

>waiting not for a game, not even for a console, but waiting for a fucking graphics card

>he doesn't ejaculate when running benchmarking software

what $250 card do i get

>I might as well wait for Ampere next year to replace my 1070
This. Always wait at least generations before upgrading cards.

AMD doesn't want its stock to tank. That's why they're downplaying the tech publicly, but are in panic mode in reality.
It's like your cards lack DX11 hardware support and you tell your customers that it doesn't matter.

X570 are way too overpriced. The main selling point is pcie 4.0 which is worthless atm. I would just get a X470 since they will support Ryzen 3000.

Ebay

RTX 2080

AMD's stock isn't going down just because of their GPU section underperforming when they're poised to take significant parts of the CPU market from Intel

RTX will still be a framerate halving meme on Ampere, it'll probably be 2022 at least until it becomes legitimately achievable. Unless Nvidia can manage to make DLSS not the worst shit ever somehow.

>Next gen consoles boast about ray tracing
>All consoles have always used AMD chip
Why do people care about RTX anyway

Gay tracing?
Phong lighting and ambient occlusion is all you'll need sonny.

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they're stupid and are getting tricked by the company trying to sell them stuff and knows they'll fall for it

>fuck no
retarded fanboy detected
>the cards are cheaper and faster than nvidia's
>fuck no
absolute idiot

Cheaper? Probs
Faster? Maybe in AMD specific games which are some big hitters. They usually compare where a game can cause as much as a 20% delta between equivalent green and red cards

$50 dollar cheaper cards compared to their nvidia counterparts for worse drivers,worse optimization,shit compatibility with emulators,no rtx,no nvenc

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just buy a console lmao this shit is autistic

Lol no, I have more than 12 braincells

>worse drivers
i'd argue nvidia is worse for drivers these days. i'd had some really unpleasant experiences with nvidias drivers recently.

I would honestly say neither stick out as obviously worse besides linux

>worse drivers
AMD has better drivers on Linux.

>lelnux
oh boy here we go
nobody here cares about your trannyware.

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>2070 Super a 2080 rebrand.
>2080S a 2080Ti rebrand.
I'd take a 2080 for 500 or even better a 2080Ti for 700 any day. But that would be fucking retarded. Super cards are going to be slightly souped up and oc'd versions of the old card at a slightly higher price.

when will they learn?
youtu.be/BcL5kbLFBdA?t=95

you're parroting bad meme shit that you know nothing about dumb wojak poster. the fact you included nvec alone tells me you're actually fucking downs.

Navi hw encoder can't match pascal. Stay mad.

the point was no one gives a shit about hardware video encoding you stupid subhuman ape. only some 17 year old who doesn't understand anything would even consider bringing that shit up.

>Amd chips run every console
>All next gen consoles confirmed for raytracing
>Thinking Amd won't update it's drivers to support meme tracing on its entire HBM line

Looking forward to your COPE threads in 2 months.

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It's a scam, AMD has been quietly dodging questions about ray tracing because the new consoles use RDNA's version of RT & that makes the 5000 series GPU's completely outdated come 2020

I honestly feel sorry for AMD fanboys defending this & saying shit like "oh i don't really care about ray tracing" enjoy your $500 paper weight when PS5 comes out

Vega56

>Yea Forums
>adults

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when intel enters VGA field.

if it was $350. for the current price no, may as well get 2070Super

Ironic that you used a KF2 image, which uses Physx-based gore and fluids.

Funny you mention that exclusive feature that was removed from the game for doing nothing but tanking performance on Nvidia GPUs. It didn't even sabotage AMD this time.

i just bought this for 50 bucks

ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75462/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1245-v3-8m-cache-3-40-ghz.html

did i fuck up? i already have 16gb ram and the motherboard (upgrading from i5 4670)

friendly reminder that nvidia's spent the last 10 years working with the best offline render devs on the planet, while amd have actively been ignoring them or sabotaging their work.

nope.

fpbp
as much as i hate Nvidia's prices, i can't be mad at them. AMD isn't competing in grafics for a long time desu. Vega 56 is the last good card from them

>removed from the game
What? I booted it up barely a week ago and it was still in. It ran fine for my 780 at 1080p back when it was first added, and worked fine last week for my 1070 at 1440p.

>Txaa
>Extreme tesselation
>Hair works
>Physx
>Flex
>Shadowplay
Name 1 time AMD sabotaged Nvidia rabbi.

>Vega 56 is the last good card from them
And even that comes with a *, since it came out way after the 10 series cards, had terrible drivers on launch that made it only on par with a 1070, had a higher initial MSRP and also uses more power and runs hotter.
Obviously it's improved since then but if a GPU isn't good at launch then not many people are going to buy it 6+ months later when you've fixed its problems.

stop installing beta drivers

kys yourself and stop eating all the PR crap nvidia pulls out. AMD driver are STELLAR and have been since they revamp everything to Adrenalien. nvidiais still stuck with their shitty, laggy control panel.
>worse optimization
check some fucking benchmarks for AMD optimized games and see how they lift off from everything nvidia has to offer for the price segment.
>ray tracing
literally the only titles running 'good' with ray tracing are Minecraft and Quake TOP KEK
raytracing isn't bad or anything but current cards are just a step stone. Nvidia need to double or rather triple the RT cores for AT LEAST 1080p 6FPS on mid-range cards but that will come with a big premium.

How is developing effects that play to their cards strengths 'sabotage'? You can turn them all off.
>shadowplay
How does a fucking recording program sabotage AMD? It's a part of nvidia drivers, it isn't game-side at all.

>And even that comes with a *, since it came out way after the 10 series cards, had terrible drivers on launch that made it only on par with a 1070, had a higher initial MSRP and also uses more power and runs hotter.
for normies it is. Vega or AMD cards in general NEED some tinkering with Voltage since everything they put out is way too overvoltaged to sell as many cards as possible. but generally every Vega card can at least lower the voltage down 0.1V which greatly improves power draw and temps while keeping at clocks or even increase them if silicon is good,

but like i said, its not really a normie plug&play card altho it still competes with GTX1080 in optimized titles

so? you fuckboys wouldn't care even if AMD pull out a card killing the 2070 at 150W for 299$. your fanboyism is just stupid and you won't change your ways so AMD just don't care anymore.
at least until they got enough money from CPU/server sales for Radeon group

Is there any reason to get anything recently made?
>all cheap chink crap
>not a single video game coming out or that has come out is anywhere near demanding enough to require it
>the ones which perform bad are optimized like shit and nearly all games which are "graphically impressive" look worse than unmodded Crisis and have garbage gameplay with putrid moronic stories made by small-minded retards or fat pea-brained women

based cinematic 24FPS at 720p my dude.

awesome marketing by Nvidia. ray tracing is VERY nice but the hardware/compute requirements are just stupid.

>Navi HBM line
>ray tracing
>in 2 months
kill yourself. 'big' Navi isnt coming anytime soon. but how could you know, brainlet.

>4c/8t
>50burgers
dude. as soon as 7th July everything starting at 6c/12t gonna be toaster tier.4c is corelet-kys territory

RTX 2080TI FOR SERIOUS SAM 2 AND POSTAL 2 8K BABY YES YAAAAS

Yeah, I realize that. But normies make up most of the market, and if AMD is making barely anything out of PC GPU sales then it doesn't push them to invest further in more competitive products. They're doing great in the CPU market and making console parts but they really need to do more to be competitive in the GPU space.

yeah but it costs $250 minimum to upgrade to that. this is a 5th of the cost

>RTX is a meme and everyone knows it.
my sides, poorfag

real time path tracing is still gimmicky tech in its infancy.
Wait 5 more years. I run a 1080 still.

>6c/12t
>toaster
what
I've got a r5 1600 and even at 144hz most games barely use 60%, with most using only 30-40%.

'toaster-tier' is just another word for baseline speccs right now

learn to read first, dipshit.

>lower price

kek

Comfy HD4850/4870 days

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You will regret it when Super comes out and the price of the stock RTX cards is cut

Except it's not, check cuda core count.

good goy

as long as you have 8 threads you'll be fine for the next 2-3 years. anything less and you'll struggle a lot.

when can we finally make use of more than 8gb ram??

Is it supposed to come with the dent?

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Nvidia doesn't cut prices, ever.

Depends on what games you play. I remember DX:MD 3 years ago used about 9GB with textures on Ultra. Of course, you need more than that for your OS and any background programs.

most games after 2015 use over 8gb ram. ideally you'd want 16gb for the smoothest performance without ram bottlenecks. for the next 2-3 years you'd need at least 8 threads (so minimum old i7) and 16gb ram.

How's the GPU market these days? I've been content running the trusty 7850 I've had since 2011, but it's finally starting to show its age. I'm in no immediate need to upgrade, but it's something to start thinking about.

Only problem is I know that ever since the bitcoin maymay took off, graphics cards have gotten ridiculous in price because of all the chinks buying them all up. Is this still the case?

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Why would I regret it? I'd have already gotten to use it for several months before that even happens. I get that a lot of you make minimum wage, but that doesn't mean we all do.

>How's the GPU market these days?
both nvidias 2000/1600 series and amds navi cards are highly disappointing

amd is jewing you even more than nvidia.

Buy used, new prices for everything is pretty fucked right now.

But is it one of those things where even if the current gen is shit, they still drive down the price of last year's stuff to make it a good bang for your buck? And also are these one-off fuck-ups, meaning waiting until next season and seeing if those are good?

Is there any reason yet to upgrade my CPU? Still running the good old 2500k.

The mid-high market is in a pretty sorry state nowadays, your best bet is buying a used 1070ti or Vega 64.

i just wanted a cheaper 2070
that was too much to ask i guess

no unless you decide to move on from the 1080p 60fps medieval times, even at that 2500k is still shit for modern cpu intrusive games

Do you play at 60fps? because 4c/4t aren't enough for anything higher. There's even emulators like CEMU and RPCS3 that benefit from newer CPUs with higher single core speeds.

>350-400 bucks
>barely edges out the 2070
>also no high-tier card at 500 bucks to compete with the 2080
They had ONE (1) FUCKING JOB.
If it cost no more than 200 bucks it would've been well worth the wait but they fucked it up again.

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>hardware demands have skyrocketed
>games still look the same or have only tiny graphical improvements
I don’t get it

either devs being straight up lazy or they've finally optimised their game engines so they're multi threaded instead of relying on 1 or 2 cores.

a 2500k won't suffer from slow single core speeds. those things can clock all the way to 4.5ghz and above (albeit with less IPC compared to modern stuff) and in gaming the clockspeed shouldn't be the problem. it's the threads that will be the problem. if you want a smooth experience nowadays you need 8 threads. lucky for him though 2600k's are piss cheap and he can easily upgrade and it'll give his pc extra life for the next couple of years.

this unironically looks way more interesting than anything rockstar has done after.

how do I get my mitts on a gta version that has the ost's? pirate?

wait 1 year, then buy a used 2xxx card.

lmao AMD is making the graphics cards for the next Xbox retard

>lazy devs still not using vulkan

id be at 120+ fps for $200 in my dream world

>reading comprehension

i clicked the wrong numbers m8