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ぜんぜんOKだよ ナナシくん。カナ だけで かいても いいんだ とおもう。
・・・でも、スペースの つかいかたが ちょっとアイマイだなぁ。 ちゅうい

>ぜんぜんOKだよ ナナシくん。カナ だけで かいても いいんだ とおもう。
>・・・でも、スペースの つかいかたが ちょっとアイマイだなぁ。 ちゅうい
It's all OK Nanas-kun. I think it's okay if you can only use kana.
... but I think it's a little crazy to use space. Chinese

something about sucky sucky dicky dicky

Everyone know how to use google translate retard, you don't have to post it

Strong Pokemon
Weak Pokemon
This is human's ???
Truly strong trainers
Liked Pokemon
??? successfully?
Thank fuck it's all kana, no kanji, or I'd be lost completely.

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>want to learn japanese
>(re)memorize hiragana and katakana
>give up at kanji
this has happened three times over the last 8 or so years
I drink too much nowadays to be able to save the money for a plane ticket/vacation

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your japanese is bad and you should feel bad

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>get in the mood to learn japanese
>learn hiragana
>get bored and give up before even touching katakana
Man I should really get back to it.
I don't give a shit about untranslated visual novels though and I'm fine with english subs in anime.
I feel like there's no real motivation for me to learn the language.

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間違いました
「これは有益練な習だよなー」というのは、本当に「これは有益な練習だよなー」という方がいいよ。

yes, people should ignore the meta and just play with their favorites

if you cant beat the game with your favorites then there are some serious issues
competitive pokemon is more autistic than smash bros

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But I choose my favorites based on their stats

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It's ok user-san, I'll break this shit down for ya.

強いポケモン・弱いポケモン
Easy enough.

"Strong pokemon, weak pokemon"

そんなの人の勝手
This gets a bit tricky if you aren't used to reading this shit. そんな is "that sort of" and slapping の after it effectively noun-izes the previous statements to say "that sort of thing" while 勝手 in this sense is a way, or perhaps even a whim. I like to think of it like this:

"That sort of stuff's something people came up with."

本当に強いトレーナーなら、好きなポケモンで勝てるように頑張るべき
Easy enough, if you've got your grammar in check.
なら = "if" condition
で = by means of, using, "with"
ように = effectively adverbializes whatever came before it giving it sort of a sense that you should "do like" that. Clunky AF to actually translate but makes sense within the language.
べき = strong suggestion

"If a trainer is truly strong, they should try and win using Pokemon they like."

All things considered, Pokemon has some pretty unforgiving shit in its dialogue and you should not expect to get much out of it unless you consider yourself like N2 level.

>いいそう
Haha, that's wrong. No one says it like that. Try 良いと思う

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ありがとう
あたりまえ素人です

Based. Might as well grind the 65 words I added before I went to sleep.

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there is really no other incentive than japanese media to learn japanese desu

Tiananmen

The only way to truly "get into" it is to basically subject yourself to it and its torture for so long that you either start liking it, or it starts making sense.

There's gonna be hella time where you just don't fucking know what's going on, until your brain finally has a combination of A: enough known vocab B: an intuitive understanding of the grammar C: learns to process the language as it comes instead of re-arranging it in English

There's just not enough time to sit there translating it in your head. Shit often translates so poorly between languages anyway that it's literally easier to just take it straight.

im sad that i understood all that but wouldn't be able to read the kanji for one of the words

The fuck? Fuck off retard

Something about the pleasure of being cummed inside

That's pretty much the official translation.

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old Pokemon doesn't use kanji

You can honestly get B down in a week and C in 2.
A is as rough as it is in any language, but the addition of kanji just makes it worse.

It's a testament to how good NoA's translations were back in the day.

Nowadays it seems there's not one "based" localization team anymore. All been overrun with dumbfucks who don't know Japanese, or who just want to re-write scenes willy-nilly without first thinking about what makes the original writing good on its own.

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Holy shit, I can actually read this.

What's the point in buying the games then(in english at least)?

With the addition of kanji, it makes learning Japanese more like a lifestyle than a habit. I don't know about the rest of you, but it takes a lot of reinforcement every day to keep that in my memory, and there's so much of it it's ridiculous. As a whole though, learning doesn't get so bad once you start treating it almost like a puzzle and seeing how much of the meaning you can piece together. The grammar of Japanese to me is so strange it's basically a riddle at times.

All who die will enter hell.
Only after passing through the gates of redemption may your soul enter the kingdom of heaven.

Yes and it's bullshit. The only saving grace of GF trimming the Pokedex will be if they're actually going to start rebalancing all the Pokemon.

That you're a faggot.

The more you know, the easier it gets. It's overwhelming at the start, and always not knowing shit is really frustrating. Unfortunately, that's how it is for a while. Easy to give up during that time. Getting stuck in the language slums sucks all kinds of dick.

However, after you reach a point where you can truly context your way through unknown words/things/grammar, it's not so bad. It just takes a lot of time and dedication to get there. When you already know 10,000+ words and 1500+ kanji, what's another word or kanji in the pile? And by then, you've gotten used to seeing the ones you know so much that it's incredibly obvious when you hit one you don't know, and that makes it easier to remember.

The rich get richer in language.

UP.

wait is this true? holy shit I'm going to try and play the old games then
which ones don't use kanji?

sad
how old are you?

Can you gooks go back to 2chan please

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Starting with black+white, you can choose to play with Kanji.

Be warned that it's not merely changing words from kana to kanji, but often changing up words entirely as someone who is expected to know Kanji is also expected to have a higher level vocabulary. Can't go switching between modes to find out readings.

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so even with black/white I can choose to enable kanji or not?

Why these Chinese niggas on Yea Forums?

Yes, all pokemon games are written completely in kana. Only since B/W was there a kanji mode added as the playerbase grew up.

Correct. Other games also feature this, but lately newer games just fuck it and slap furigana on top of everything and allow you to disable it if it's annoying (it is).

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私は日本語がよくわかりません。

fucking sick
arigatou friendos

Vitamin quest 2 never ever

Oh, we can have Japanese threads again? Cool. Too bad I have nothing to talk about.

i literally just started learning japanese by watching videos that go over basic grammar, copying the sentences down, and then writing down also how to type it out with the japanese keyboard.
it really helps me.

Hello,me

What type of ass backwards language has 3 alphabets

at least its more phonetically consistent than english

SUCKY SUCKY 5 DORRAH

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"Gay Pokemon
Straight Pokemon
Together we unite in the hatred of niggers"

Why gold was so kino bros

That feel when you arrive Vermilion

Good luck, user. I did all that 7 years ago, so I'm good for the most part, but I still don't speak/write Japanese much, so I could do with some improving in those areas.

learning japanese if not actually living in japan is just not worth it

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

thanks man, its gonna be tougher than it probably could be, but thankfully i pick up on grammar easier than vocab or other things (idk if thats a thing for others or not)

good try, it's actually 良さそう

I don't live in Japan, but it's worth it for me for games. Would like to stay in Japan for a while though, it'd help with speaking at leas.t

>Have a friend who wants to move to Japan
>Doesn't want to learn the language before he does though, is insistent on "learning the language when he gets there"
Is he retarded?

how many of you fucking zoomers don't recognize this legend
youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE

Based fellow Anki user. 頑張ってね。

probably. Learning to read kana and some basic conversation before going to japan will carry you relatively far but going in with zero knowledge will likely just make him bitter and give up in a few months. especially if he's planning to be an ALT or some shit, met guys who have lived here 10+ years teaching english with a japanese level of 1st year students

reminder he's married and has a kid now

No, learning the language while being immersed is a good idea and Japan is extremely foreign-friendly in terms of signage and getting around

大丈夫?

Source on the kid? I knew he was married but Namasensei is boss.

i can't find it but someone posted a picture of him with a kid a few days ago in a dekinai thread (looked like a screencap from a stream)

it's a good idea only if he's actually going to put in the effort to get immersed. most just end up hanging around with other gaijin speaking very little japanese.

Where does he stream these days? I used to watch him on Twitch a few years ago and of course of YouTube but haven't heard much from him these past few years.

עברית טובה מיפנית.

>stats
enjoy your slaking and regigigas

English has 4:
Uppercase, lowercase; cursive, print.

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ok but it's true
if you were learning english how the fuck are you supposed to know r = R? or a = A? e = E etc.

I mean he’s not wrong. Hiragana and Katakana represent the same sounds but don’t look the same. And what’s the difference between uppercase and lowercase or print and cursive? Oh that’s right, they represent the same sounds but look different

I burned myself out after the first few years and now just study here and there ti preserve as much as possible. My Japanese is slowly but surely going down the shitter. In a few years I'll probably forget everything beyond a few simple words.

What is good for someone who's done around half of Genki? I've reached chapter 8, I think it was? (I'd need to check), and have been slowly grinding everything out over the last month or so, just so I don't get too burnt out by doing everything in a week or two.

I can't remember how far into Genki I was when I started reading manga, but try that. Or even playing simple games or something. Something you like, so you'll have a personal interest keeping you going.

I did start reading Yotsuba, and could understand a decent bit of it(provided I had the vocab up), but it's been a while. I started up Dragon Quest, as it's a huge thing in Japan and kids play it, right? That was a fucking mistake. I'm just not sure what games I could play in JP that either have furigana or don't assume you have a decentish grasp on the language.

I'll probably get back to Yotsuba, it was fun to read.

Try pokemon red/blue, extremely simple dialogue and a lot of repetition in items and battle related stuff which helps with memorization. All pokemon names are in katakana too so you get a good mix of both character sets.

Here's what you should actually do.

>go find anime you know well already so you know roughly what's going on in most scenes
>find it with Japanese subtitles
>watch it and read the JP subtitles at the same time

Honestly you have to finish Genki I to barely be N5 and that won’t do much for you at all. Too much grammar and vocab you don’t know. If you’re reading Yotsuba and getting along just fine by looking up words then that’s cool but as someone who read Yotsuba raw you’ll probably run into a lot of grammar you don’t know. Just gotta keep chugging along with your studies

You can do the N5 with like half of Genki done though, the N5 is utter trash (Granted a lot of linguists think the JPLT is entirely trash anyway)

大丈ばない

5000 hours of anime. This gets you to N1.

do you have a better version of this picture?

Figured. I was hoping there was something real simple so I could not only practice/solidify my studies, but also keep my interest up. Doing nearly 200 cards of anki daily for about a week nearly killed my interest.

I'm fine with having a dictionary next to me to look up words so I can learn them, so vocab isn't an issue (I'd actually expect to be learning a ton), it's more just starting to read the language and getting more exposed to it. There's only so many times I can learn about Mary, Takeshi, and Robert.

I'll give it a shot.

I actually barely watch anime, and haven't watched anything recently to not have forgotten most of everything. I'll keep it in my mind for when I next watch something, though.

Then watch Jdramas or whatever. The point is that doing that gets you exposure to the spoken and written language in a way that's natural. Your brain is real fucking good at taking that input away and then re-ordering into patterns subconsciously later on.

How the fuck do you think kids learn anything? the same way, Chomsky doesn't even believe in the LAD or critical time any more.

Why do you have so many cards daily if I may ask? One of the most common traps beginners fall into is getting overzealous in adding cards to Anki and burning themselves out. I still use Anki to help my studies but I never add more than 20-35 vocab cards to Anki every few days so I don’t overwhelm myself. That’s a bit of a slow pace admittedly but I retain almost every word I learn

Yea Forums is kind of dumb when it comes to this stuff. They always recommend the weirdest shit instead of what universities use. (Which is mostly IIRC "Japanese: the spoken language" + "Japanese: The written language")

why is japanese the meme language with the look at how hard these kanjis are meme
when chinese exists?

I think it depends on the university. I minored in Japanese and the classes went like this

>First year of Japanese: Genki I
>Second year of Japanese: Genki II
>Third year of Japanese: Chapters 1-9 of Tobira
>Fourth year of Japanese: J-Bridge to Intermediate Japanese and a class where we read Botchan

Definitely a slower pace but you end up retaining most of it and getting a lot of practice speaking and writing which is nice. There was the added bonus that the first year and 3rd/4th year professors were both Japanese natives

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No, no, I more meant I'd do it when I next watch something. I have a list of shit I need to watch, so I'll watch a series and then rewatch it with JP subs. It's a good idea, and it's something I haven't really thought of before.

I tried to add each chapter as I went through it and learnt it. However, I went through some of the chapters faster than others in terms of the grammar rules, or was a bit lazy in adding the vocab in myself. This meant that, instead of having a gradual flow of cards coming in, where I'd learn one set and then start the next, I had this huge buffer where I'd be reviewing maybe 30, 40 cards per deck AND learning another 10. Alongside reviewing earlier decks which each had up to 20 cards each.

I've learnt my lesson since.

They both are, they're chinese characters bro. Japanese is a noun centric language which imported a ton of nouns from China. Which is probably why back in the 19th century so many people were fine with the idea of dumping the whole language and using either English or French instead.

Tae Kim is such a meme, he makes all the same linguistic mistakes Genki does and Genki does it better.

Also any learning Japanese chart which ignores Jay Rubin's Making Sense of Japanese is shit. Even if he doesn't cover everything he at least introduces people to some key linguistic ideas that are missing from most other places.

>Jay Rubin's Making Sense of Japanese

I'll take a look at the book because it sounds interesting. Unlocking Japanese by Cure Dolly is also a really good book for teaching things that textbooks should explain but don't. I read the book and the sections on は vs が blew my mind and made me wonder why textbooks make it so complicated.

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Cure Dolly is actually very good. But her brand of structuralist linguistics isn't for everyone.

Rubin's book by and large does the same I might add. But in a way that is more open to people that don't learn language by analysing the core concepts of how words operate within it and instead approach things from a more functionalist way.

aka the people that throw a hissyfit when you say Japanese only has 1 pronoun.

Don't be fooled, women aren't any different in foreign countries. All whores especially the Japanese (check out the love hotel statistics sometime).

はい、考えます

How bad are you?
Its either いいと思う or 良さそう

You can turn off kanji in any game, but I don't recommend it.

Kanzen master is based but from what I can tell it's rarely used outside of Japan. Why?

I'm honestly pleased we get more and more games with Japanese text options in the west.

It should be the default, it's really fucking annoying to pick something up only to find out that you can't even change the language.

The absolute worst is when a game has dual audio but you can't change the text to Japanese. Absolutely fucking retarded, and finding Japanese releases is a monumental fucking hassle.

I don't speak 'small cock kill a dog'

日本語が勉強はとっても難しい
悔しい
でも出来るね?

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>日本語が勉強はとっても難しい

出来ない

うーうるさい
みんなはミスをする

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No, just lazy

実に楽しいゲ―ム作らなくていいって言い訳に過ぎないだろう、そりゃ。楽しいかどうの責任をプレイヤ―に移すってね

You want to say >日本語を勉強するのは難しい

This makes you sound like an autist, though.

Sounds much less autistic/厨二病 than anything to do with "日本語が勉強" lmao

which is why you just say Japanese is hard and let context do the rest.

I started playing a Future Card Buddyfight game in Japanese a while ago. Trying to piece together a card deck with N5 level Japanese skills wasn't easy but it was very rewarding once I started winning. Are there any other fun card games like that? I'd rather stay away from Yugioh since their card effects read like small essays

What about porn?
Porn games?
Games?
Travelling there and going to a soapland and seducing the whore massaging your dick?

at that point might as well live here

no kanji is actually harder dont do it user

>1 pronoun
LOL go dilate

Fuck man, I've been at it for five years and I'm only halfway through Genki 2. I wish I learned this shit when I was young and had the time. Now juggling work and family with my already shitty memory makes this tough.