The 5th generation of video games is underrated...

Played this in my wii, cool game. I learned most enemies movesets and could reliably get to the lower levels without taking much damage. Then, some of the deeper enemies had some pretty broken moves, couldn't avoid those
Anyway was a good ride

They look similar, at least thematically. I remember the PS2 game, but never heard of the Saturn one. It looks really neat.

lol baroque, I remember that game. Crazy original but team wasn't talented enough to execute the wealth of good ideas it had, both in the PS1 original and the PS2 remake
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I played the one in your video too, I hated the gameplay but I loved everything else.

Jesus Christ, was there any system it wasn't on?

The ps2/wii Baroque is almost entirely a different game. While it is based on the saturn/ps1 game the remake is so different that it essentially is a new game. Many people see it as inferior due to a more typical artstyle and less atmospheric world.

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I thought there was a PS1 original, but it turns out it was a Saturn game. Anyway, the PS2 version is a remake of the Saturn game. Incredibly flawed games, far from a masterpiece, I'd like to see somebody buy the IP and do a impassioned remake to fix its big issues (mainly with the flow of exploration imo)

I knew of the saturn title which is why I got the wii version but ended up not caring for it.

It got an iOS port too lol
apps.apple.com/us/app/baroque-the-dark-twisted-fantasy/id543140986

Well i ain't getting near a saturn gamesystem my friend, but i know that it was first person as opposed to third person

To show people just how different these two games are.

youtube.com/watch?v=BdXPF3PwLWc
youtube.com/watch?v=YD9Nj7K0fUo

The original game has a more surreal/darker atmosphere, the remake feels more lighthearted. Fans of the original find the changes to ruin the game's atmosphere and dislike it for that reason.

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Its nothing to do with the graphics, its to do with focus tested lowest common denominator garbage games with no substance at all except to sell a product.

Elaborate.

The second one is just as surreal, but it isn't as outright terrifying. It's still really creepy though, in a very unnerving, "something is off" kind of way. It's by no means lighthearted, even comparatively. I really liked both.
Source: I played both

The original look like some sort of doom mod.

The Saturn version gives me Shadow Tower vibes, mixed with SMT's art style.
The majority of games running on the same engine rather than being uniquely coded probably doesn't help either.

My dude, just emulate the Japanese version on PS1

>moonrunes
yeah i guess i'll pass

>moonrunes stumps him
either learn what each menu does or just learn it. Neither are hard. You'll also have a lot of classic untranslated literature open up to your reading taste, so that's a big benefit
Source: I did the former before I did the latter

Pretty sure it was Japanese only import and Saturn exclusive during the 32-bit era.

PS1 version got ported a year later.

Reminder they did a mobile game prequel..?!
gamerbraves.com/baroque-syndrome-is-coming-to-mobile-devices-in-2019/

It got ported, also
>Japanese only
Why does this bother you?

>Saturn exclusive
Nope, it was released on the ps1 as well but it was originally a Saturn exclusive. The game is available actually on the Japanese PS store.

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Baroque is one of those franchises that has amazing sound assets for the menus and general navigation in the UI. I just wanna buy them and release them into public domain so everyone can use spooky blips and bloops in my favorite games.

I was once like that back in the late 90's but then I grew up and realized these games were not that great especially to learn an entire nother language.

How would one go about recreating this atmosphere?

Color Palette?
Shader techniques?
lower texture resolutions?

5th gen gets praised more than any other gen, included my beloved (and objectively superior) 4th gen. /vr/ is rife with these sorts of SOUL threads.

I didn't learn Japanese to play video games (I used genki, live NHK streams, and a few courses inbetween my double major), but it was a nice little perk of learning the language :)

this tbqh
if it doesn't get translated and ported to the west it means it's not worth translating and playing

The only people that praise 5th gen outside the normies who praise the n64, is /vr/. /vr/ doesnt count.

Not the guy you were replying to, but I feel too old and slow to learn moon runes at this point. What is the best resource to get started, though? Is there a website or app or book you'd recommend?

I'm not going back to college to play videogames, kid.

I think Rosetta Stone was one of the big names in language learning.

This is now a comfy Saturn import thread

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Another was Babbel

Thanks, guys. I just looked up the Genki book the other person mentioned as well. Looks like a good place to start.

>kid
You think I did this recently? I'm not a kid, grandpa ;^)
See Try and take courses for at least 4 semesters, and if not, try 3, and if not, try 2. That gives you enough to learn the rest by yourself. Try and find a japanese speaking club/community and politely ask if they would help you speak. Language is a natural process and it's only really learned through exposure to speaking, so prioritize that as learn vocab. Advanced grammar is best learned descriptively rather than through rules.

Sumimasen honorable japanese speaker-sama. Watashi honto honto would like to know how to speak nihongo properly but it's very difficult for me

The first one was a lot more terrifying because it was first person and you could never see more than a few squares in front of you. The music was more intimidating too.

Just devote 2 years of your life to it. Why not just get your bachelor's in it? By that point a master's and doctorates are a mere hop, skip, and jump to 6 figures in debt to play vidya.

書名が「元気」だ教科書を使う方がいいよ。

>tfw learning Japanese because of Wachenroeder and porn VNs
Wish me luck, anons

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>Why not just get your bachelor's in it?
Unless you want to get into hardcore Japanese or east asian lit (for which you'll need a few more languages anyway), it's a meme to actually major in japanese. If you want to do diplomat work, it's fine, but if you actually want to make a career and not waste thousands of dollars, study something you can make into a career. Now, I'm not saying to go into high paying fields for the sake of it (I myself went into mathematical science academia, which was risky, but it ended up working out really really well, and damn it I'm a scientist now reddit), but don't give this meme advice out to people who will legitimately take your bait seriously

Nice, Warchenroeder always looked really cool to me, good luck user.

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mathematical science academia? Are you an esl? I have never heard of that field or major.

>Are you an esl? I have never heard of that field or major.
I'm not ESL. I double majored in math and CS (theory concentration, not codemonkey shit, luckily went to a really good school for theory) My field is interdisciplinary. I study how stuff like complexity theory and theoretical physics intersect. I publish in various journals, but mostly in math and physics ones

So basically you are a philosophy major which is what purely theoretical fields boil down to.

5th gen was easily the ugliest due to being in experimental stage of 3d. It's my favorite gen but certainly not due to visuals. Although, some games looked nice. Cartoony ones like Crash and Spyro, Oddworld games were absolutely gorgeous, 2d games - Suikoden 2 aged like fine wine and still looks fantastic today.

>So basically you are a philosophy major which is what purely theoretical fields boil down to.
t. engineer
Lol no where did you get that idea? What do you think happens when you do theoretical physics or theoretical CS? Nothing is different except we're better at math than mostly everyone in STEM, so we solve the interesting analytical problems so that everyone can use them
Examples:
Four Russians constant time access lookup table
All of statistical mechanics used in engineering today
communication complexity
Asynchronous Computability Thesis which details the protocol making distributed networks like the ones that govern what you're using right now actually work.

Even something like topology isn't dicking around with mobius strips and donuts you dingus. Half of the shit in graphics and in navigation systems in robotics only works because of our understanding of topology and surface deformation.

Also, what do you think theory people do that makes them resemble "philosophy majors?" Have you taken anything as simple as a basic calculus class before, much less analysis?

5th and 6th gen are objectively the best ones.

I find both equally disturbing