CONSUME

>>basically free insurance
You pay for your union out of your paycheck. They take a little bit from everyone in the union. Shit's not free, retard.

Big cooperations hate unions. Most working murricans don't mind unions.

Syndicate

"unions are glorified mafias"

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Unions have massive problems and new grassroots organizational structure to organize workers is extremely necessary. My union creates massive pains in my ass and the benefits it provides are not contingent on those pains in my ass- we can easily do without them. I've never encountered a union that wasn't corrupt. I'm fine paying dues, I'm not fine with the preposterous command structure and extraordinary nepotism, not to mention incentive structure that actively encourages doing a shit job.

How much do guillotines cost? Asking for a comrade

one bad union doesn't represent all unions.

Its not free but its generally great insurance for what you're paying compared to what most people get other than like hospital employees.

>You pay for the Union out of your paycheck.

40 Bucks a month is worth the healthcare, protections, arbitration, and ability to get a goddamn raise to me.

Just because one group was bad doesn't mean it's all bad. This is like arguing that the current version of capitalism we have now is good just because communism is bad. There are other alternatives, and this black-and-white thinking stifles progress.

>ignores basically free
i have the best insurance around. its worth an hour of work a week

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gothic 2

Dont support unions, they are inherently un american

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Unions are a fundamentally good idea, but they need regulation just like any other program that asks for money. If not, it is incredibly easy for one to operate like, or even be taken over, by the mafia.

based

you are absolutely right.

>>>/leftypol/

Payment and benefits should be an agreement between the employee and the employer. I shouldn't have to give up part of my wage so that some dipshit who sits around can get the same benefits as I do. Fuck union niggers and their gibsmedat

There are some really really greedy bosses in this world that will take advantage of you if you aren't protected in some way or another.

hahaha is that an actual sign?
i hate this silverspoon fucko

Well, I'm just a humble piece of toast, but I think workers shouldn't protect their rights. Just buckle down and work hard for the megacorporation, I say, and they will take care of you. You don't need to look out for your own interests, your boss cares for you. Just keep clocking in, we'll keep paying you, and you can buy that new PS5 you saw announced on Reddit. But hey, I'm just a piece of toast, what do I know about economics?

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>Pay $30 a month for a union
>Get free healthcare, dental, vacation time and higher wages plus I can't get randomly fired
or
>Pay $100+ for just health and dental per month or don't pay it and pay thousands if I do get ill or injured

Dead serious here how the fuck does anyone have problems with unions? Are people really so desperate to "own the libs" that they'll actively fuck themselves and their quality of life over?

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This. Most of the ones I've dealt with were bullies. Pressuring people into paying fees and offering little in return.

>buying a house/apartment or a lot to build a house on requires insane capital
>hurr all debt is bad I will live in a tent
every time

Hate this fucker.
>works some of the roughest jobs for 30 minutes
>"I know what I'm talking about"

Teamster here. They cover more than just truck drivers, and the quality you find is entirely dependent on the local you belong to.

Enjoy your right to work state as your CEO shoves his dick deeper in your ass.

I was just about to make some oven toast. You'll do perfectly

>redditors can't visit any other site without shitting it up with politics
I want to assrape every last one of you with a rusty shovel.

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You're right but I would rather deal with some neoptism from a union that is still looking out for the little guys (if only because they have to in order to keep making money), instead of the usual corporation thought of fuck everything but my bonus, where said little guy is lucky to get a 2% raise and promotions are always from outside the department and still usually someone the boss knows because "you are too essential to the team where you are".

>Dead serious here how the fuck does anyone have problems with unions?

Not all unions are good. Some are just cash grab shitty mafia that don't give you any benefit at all.

Unions make it easy to take advantage of people, so they naturally attract liberals and Juden for their top positions. Join a union, but always be mindful of the noses and last names of the people in charge because they can screw you really easily, and have done so in the past. Always be vigilant, White Man.

Yes, good little classcuck. Keep working.

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OBEY
BUY
Capitalism in its worst form has allready conqured Muttland, what hope is there left for this world.

Yea Forums - Anti-Capitalism

we truly are reddit now

>work union came to my house on my day off to get me to join
I told them to fuck off and talk to me at work.

I mean, if I were in charge, this is exactly what I'd do.

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In Canada every single shitty roastie nurse is in a union siphoning out the Xanax and they never get fired. 6 captchas....

Yes but a lot of their unions outright suck.
Even their game dev one is just a scam for a clique of convention-going tertiaries to leech salaries off actual workers.
It's why they're trying to whine/shame programmers into joining.

unions are antisemitic

I have had a wide range of experience with different unions. some are legit mafias some are great. some are frustrating to deal with as management some are reasonable. You no longer need to be in a union to get all that in a contract, but unions are how we got it in the first place now. and for certain jobs collective bargaining is really the best way to negotiate salaries.

Why is every pro-union fag also pro-immigration?

Honestly, that's the only thing that stops me from supporting unions: the colossal faggots who staff and support them.

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$544 actually

In return I get:
37 hr work week
paid 30 min lunch break
full pay during sick leave
6 weeks vacation
34 weeks of maternity/paternity leave, 22 of which are with full pay
2 days off with full pay per child per year

This autismal every man for himself attitude only benefits the employer.

I can't help but notice no one's addressed the fact that 700$ a year isn't really that much. Even for the cuckiest of wagies.

I honestly wish a commie nigger would.
I like fireworks.

Unions aren't anti-capitalism. I needed a service to protect my job, I found someone that offers that service for money. That's capitalism. The problem is, it opposes the capitalism of the Big Jewish Businessmen, so they brand it "un-American" to protect your own rights.

>never complain to improve your circumstances
If I was willing and placed myself before the alter of subservience to management, they would have me working 90-100 hour work weeks. There are jobs that will take from yiu everything they can, knowing yiur limits and standing up for yourself isnt whining, it's having a backbone.

That said I agree with the vast majority of this list by personal principle, if more people strived to do a good job for the dignity of doing your job well, my place of work wouldn't be a dumpster fire.

>better benefits than non-union houses
>better pay than non-union houses
>B-B-BUT THEY S-STEAL MY MONEY
Enjoy slaving away at a non-union house, dumbass.

There are at least more good unions than good corporations and bosses. I don't think I've ever had a non-unionized job that didn't treat me like shit just to save money.

My last job was non-union and they cut my monthly pay by $500 randomly just because they could and then fired me when I asked them why. Fuck managers, fuck corporations. If an evil mafia jew or whatever is gonna guarantee my pay and benefits for only $30 a month he can fucking have it.

>This thread
>Retards from /pol/ preaching AGAINST unions, when they are literally the reason why people can afford multiple consoles
That's what happens when you get into a union and don't have to pay your entire check in health care/dental costs.

>Even their game dev one is just a scam for a clique of convention-going tertiaries to leech salaries off actual workers.
>It's why they're trying to whine/shame programmers into joining.

Yeah, I noticed that all the people #supporting it were tranny bluehairs and artists.

None of the programmers who do the actual legwork of making a game are interested.

Both the union and your job are businesses, and they are both in the business of trading service for money. I'd say there's equal likelihood that a business or a union may have greedy, shady people in charge.

>Payment and benefits should be an agreement between the employee and the employer
What the fuck do you think a union is you retard

>2 days off with full pay per child per year
what happens if you have 183 kids?

>unions are bad because some of them bad
>unlike any business entity I may end up working for

Fuck anti-union drones.

The fundamental problem with unions is that they are just another business, except one that cannot operate effectively without a monopoly. Once they're in, they lock the entire industry into multiple year contracts with tiny windows and massive hoops to jump through to kick them out so they never have to compete. It's like paying a lawyer to represent you who you can't replace even if they come out of the gate not giving a shit. And most of the time they do a shitty job because no one wants to strike these days and taking a bad deal for the people they represent makes them more money than no deal.

I never said I was against unions you retards. I just said it wasn't free.

Yea Forums has always been national socialist you braindead leddittor.

>Why is every pro-union fag also pro-immigration?
source?
>Honestly, that's the only thing that stops me from supporting unions
denying yourself basic quality of life improvements to own the libs

Back in the 70s and 80s they realized the government was fucking inept and had more or less no effective war to cut off illegals. Since then they've decided the best way to go about it is to legalize them as fast and painlessly as possible so they don't end up being exploited and can be brought into the unions.

And that's fair. Some unions are corrupt. But on average, corporations and maximum profit obsessed managers are absolutely worse. At least the union can't slash your pay by a fifth and fire you.

>employer can do whatever he wants to you unless you pay some union to defend you
>car dealer can set whatever price he wants essentially becoming a legal scalper
Why is america so fucking weird?

I don't need some dumbass making choices for me because 'they're a union rep'.

the indians are just excited to be getting paid american wages

You have a mental breakdown

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your skin becomes darker.

Fuck unions

Better to have one shark fight another. Businesses have the money to fend off meaningful regulation that would limit their power to fuck workers.

Read up on toys r'us in sweden and tell me unions are evil

why can't you answer if if you're so smart?

Seniority bullshit is the worst fucking thing about unions.

>Oh, you're a lazy cunt, but you've been here ten years? Sorry, have all my hours. Please.

Just another way that boomers try to fuck everyone else.

It's really funny watching die Juden swarm over this thread, telling people not to protect themselves, to trust the CEO of their job, to not think and just consume. This is exactly what Hitler was talking about, folks. This right here.

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2nd year of Business Management - Human Resources, we are taught the history of how Corporations fucked the Unions and created Corporate Unions to counteract them using various overhanded and underhanded means and tactics to confuse the situation while taking advantage of it.
Unions are a fucking meme. Whichever retard believes in them has the brain of a semi-developed sea sponge.

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Because liberty is a civil religion, and us americans get fucking stupid for our religions

>I don't want an experienced negotiator to get me the best possible deal

>it's actually real

dontriskitdontsignit.com/

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>tfw hate unions because they're usually power hungry bastards
>but at the same time they're the only line of defense from keeping the corporations from raping your ass as an employee

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>Why is every pro-union fag also pro-immigration?
Unions are pro-labor. If Pedro can work as hard as the next guy, who gives a shit. You don't see illegal immigrants stealing jobs from CEOs.

Depends, in places like the South. Very rarely, and often the Delegators fuck up bitches that hire illegals cheaply and make them buy american.

>>car dealer can set whatever price he wants essentially becoming a legal scalper
Literally what is wrong with this? If you aren't a literal retard you'll go out and find multiple dealerships and force them to undercut one another till you get the best offer. The people in your cunt aren't so autistic that they don't know how to barter, right user?

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>Back in the 70s and 80s they realized the government was fucking inept and had more or less no effective war to cut off illegals.

They never even fucking tried.

>Since then they've decided the best way to go about it is to legalize them as fast and painlessly as possible so they don't end up being exploited and can be brought into the unions.

Inflating the labor pool! Higher wages somehow! Great success!

You see, this is why no one takes you faggots seriously.

>>car dealer can set whatever price he wants essentially becoming a legal scalper

While that is true.... there's also tons of other places to buy your car that won't fuck you over on price. You're not relying on this car dealer for shit. They rely on you buying their car.

another weird fucking thing about america. seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your country?
I don't understand what that means, religion is popular here (and that's a good thing) but the only way a car price can do at a dealer is DOWN if you negotiate and they can't go above the fixed price under any circumstance

Most poltards are all over voting for far-right economic policies so long as they stick it to da tranniez and da leftiez, so in the end corporations get to have their fun anyway.

Except what ends up happening is all the dealerships get together and crank all their prices so high that people are fucked no matter what and are forced to pay one of them a shitload more anyway.

See: Canadian mobile network companies

you become a gerbil

so are corporations

classical socialists are against immigration since immigrants compete with the workforce and drive wages down.
It's just these neo-liberals that are basically as mentally developed as a third grader that thinks unfettered immigration is good for their society.
that said fuck gommies

see
Literally the post right below you kvetching about how unrestricted immigration is somehow not detrimental to native workers.

step 1) important millions of mexicans
step 2) legalize them
step 3) ???
step 4) higher wages for all!

Sorry, I exclusively buy new cars, and out of the 3 I owned, all of them I got lower than MSRP. How does the dealer being allowed to ask over MSRP make sense? What if they all act together to make cars more expensive in a certain region and it's too inconvenient to get it from somewhere else?

Project engineer here.

Why do you guys fuck up with the wrong material so often?

I dislike them because of how loud they whine when you decide to go with a different, non-union company. A Dave & Busters went up a few years ago with a construction company that wasn't unionized, and the local unions picketed and inflated rats surrounding the building.

Buncha crybabies. I'm glad the D&B is immensely successful and constantly packed every weekend.

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I worked for one of the largest companies in the world. They purposely gave us anti-union videos during training (which wasn't legal, but whatever). By the time I quit that job I'd gone from working 8-10 hour shifts to 17+ hour shifts. This is with equipment that weighed 3,000 lbs and would kill you if you did something wrong, so I was working 4+ days a week at 17+ hours straight.

Long story short, what they did was completely illegal and for the next 5 years after quitting I was named in lawsuits against the company, and would regularly get $500 payouts (I never once named myself, I suppose it was because I was working at the location when it was happening).

This probably would've been prevented with a union. But you know, here we are, complaining that they're an issue because you pay some dues and sometimes they don't do moral shit. Shocker, neither do employers of large corporations.

Paid maternity leave is such a joke. Women have it too easy

Good thing incels can't be CEOs.

>They never even fucking tried.
AFL was one of the strongest anti-immigration forces in the early 20th century. They weren't exactly on par with, say, the Klan but...
>Inflating the labor pool! Higher wages somehow! Great success!
Hey, that's their retarded cop out. Instead of forcing the gov't to stop being fucking worthless they just picked the less painful way of tolerating it. Still a shitty outcome
>Implying I'm a unioncuck
lmao

>Higher wages somehow!
Republicans literally become richer, while retarded rednecks point fingers at illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration isn't even a problem unless you own a farm around the border.

Because they earn more for more members, regardless if it fucks over all their current ones.
You went down to the poverty line?
Not to worry the 2 workers out of 10 replacements we brought in end up paying us just as much and won't require actual work to keep. :^)

Literally the only unions worth a shit are hyper-specific ones like dockers unions with a mafia control of who gets what jobs or exclusivist academic-only workplace ones that network and cut the fluff out of salary neotiations.

> Sorry, I exclusively buy new cars

Good for you, however that in no way helps your argument of one shitty car dealer jacking up their prices to sell. Nobody is forcing you to buy shit from that car dealer. Just go to another one, retard.

> How does the dealer being allowed to ask over MSRP make sense?

It doesn't. Nobody would buy from that dealer.

> What if they all act together to make cars more expensive in a certain region and it's too inconvenient to get it from somewhere else?

Welcome to 2019. You can order a fucking car from the factories themselves and they will fucking deliver it to your door. Fuck those dumb dealers jacking up used car prices in one region.

Price fixing is illegal in the US, user. Stop talking out your ass.

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unions almost destroyed our auto industry so a lot of people still don't trust them

Theu rely on scamming you as hard as possible. Every other car dealer will try to do the same, they are scum. I work on a psych ward and a clearly psychotic patient called a used car dealer saying he had money to buy a car from the ward. This patient could barely form a coherent sentence. They called back every few hours for fucking days, not giving a fuck that this person was clearly unstable and likely didnt have the money to begin with. They are shit people, never look at it as them trying to offer the best deal. With rare exception, they are offering you the best-hidden scam.

>Illegal immigration isn't even a problem unless you own a farm around the border.
In which case it is a solution not a problem.

it's horrifying to think what your parents must have done to you to turn into such a horrid human being
have sex

Dude, you are so annoying. Every single fucking american on /o/ is vehemently against new cars specifically BECAUSE of dealers driving up prices for anything even remotely desirable and here you are like a little prick trying to defend it.

Stop it, it's a bad practice and your country is third world

So is tax evasion but just look at all your billionaires :^)

imagine being so broke-brained that you post on /pol/ and Yea Forums about greedy jews stealing your money but also shittalk unions, something that is explicitly designed to prevent that

texasfag
ive been working for an a/v union and its pretty comfy desu
work is fun and i get to a see a lot of interesting shows coming through town
plus i get paid 23 an hour and overtime out the fuckin ass, and i've got a shoe in with a bunch of different a/v companies after having worked a few jobs with them so they like me

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You end up being so fed up you launch the Mongol invasions.

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>order a used car from a factory!
Fucking retard.

That's called price fixing and its very fucking illegal.
>Implying I believe in any of their shitty reasoning
lel

Would rather have a union than let neapolitan elitists run employees to the ground like they do their companies. How can idiots trust these wannabe oligarchs when we have a recession every 15 years? Fucking Australia doesn't have this problem and they drink beer off of their assholes.

>literally be a drone consumer instead of having rights
this is orwellian as fuck.

That really doesn't happen in the US. Car dealerships don't make much money anymore, because they know they have to compete with every other dealership, the market value of what other people are buying a car for and what the dealership is buying the car for from the manufacturer are very easily found out with the internet. They're lucky to make a couple hundred off any car these days, its why they want to rope you into paying for dealer installed options and don't want you to pay with cash, they want to rope you into a contract, that shit is where they make most of their money.

ALSO
>order from factory
I did that with a car shipped from Japan and it's not nice waiting 2 months

user, did you not see what happened to Amazon's game trade-in policy after they started working with GameStop to provide Amazon credit, in a failed program? It went from 60% of a game's price to around 16%.

Amazon talked with Best Buy, then magically both of them killed their 20% pre-order programs around the same time.

and corps are glorified feudalism gotta fight fire with fire

Price fixing happens anyway, retard. Why do you think diamonds cost so much?

The price fixing is from the manufacturers really. The dealerships are privately owned and have to buy the cars too.

so is shooting people yet people in the USA do it all the time

That is not what price fixing is.

Fuck Dave and Busters. They outright lied to me about how much they'd be paying me, knowing that I can't afford a lawyer to do shit about it

Unions are more American then most American corporations who employ cheap commie Chinese over seas. Unions encourage they're employees to buy American made products and will smash your car if its not american made.

That's only new cars. The stealership makes plenty of money from used cars and parts/service

HEY HEY HEY user price fixing is illegal on paper! There's no way big corporations have ways to curcumvent the laws with loopholes or outrught get them changed with exceptions!

Yes, and so is vehicular homicide in France and rape in Sweden. What is your point?
>Price fixing ALWAYS happens
>I can prove it with some examples about diamonds
Epic. Also that other user is right, manufacturers are the shady fuckers but they don't get off scott free. We just had some massive case about this last year.

I got a car 2k euros under MSRP. No way he would have sold it to me if he didn't turn a profit, so I doubt they only make a couple hundred on a sale, even there

>Dude, you are so annoying.

Is that the best you can do when you can't win a argument?

> Every single fucking american on /o/ is vehemently against new cars specifically BECAUSE of dealers driving up prices for anything even remotely desirable and here you are like a little prick trying to defend it.

I have never defended anyone jacking up USED CAR PRICES in one region. You're a fucking moron. You're also moving the goalpost from a used car dealer jacking up prices to new car sales.

Any care that is desirable will of course cost more. Supply and demand, retard. It's business 101. Why sell for less if people will pay more for it. Also, you moved goalpost so much that this shit has nothing to do with unions anymore.

> Stop it, it's a bad practice and your country is third world

Go fuck yourself. Why don't you stop moving goalposts.

Price fixing happens anyway regardless of its legality. It's extremely hard to prove because it's framed under "competition". Why do you think that when one phone provider raises its prices by $5 a month, suddenly all the other ones follow suit rather than keeping their prices low to compete?

It's price fixing, just not provable. Corporations get away with a lot of bullshit.

>Unions are more American then most American corporations who employ cheap commie Chinese over seas.
what is wrong with that?
>Unions encourage they're employees to buy American made products and will smash your car if its not american made.
sounds horrid. why do they hate comparative advantage?

Maybe unionfags should do something about the colossal flow of cheap and under-the-table slave labor flowing across the border that slowly turns all workers into feudal serfs with no rights and zero bargaining capability. Oh wait, they won't because unionfags are neoliberal morons.

But hey, these cheap and authentic tacos sure are tasty!

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yeah i imagine it depends on where you are and where you live if a union is good or not. probably one of those things you have to assess with the people actually living under them and how they feel about it

thankfully I'm nowhere near the third world shitholes of USA or western europe so your banter is pointless :)
When did I even talk about used cars? When did I even talk about unions? What are you on about? How hard is it to comprehend dealer networks here have a fixed MSRP and it's superior to your third world shithole?

>haha this ebil greedy thing is on your side!
This is why I hate polotics on Yea Forums

They're pro getting paid.
If 90% lumpenprole pedros murdered all the native labor and their wives and kids but the 10% non-lumpenprole pedros joined up with the union they'd be fucking ecstatic and would be explaining to the survivors how it was really a good thing they got murdered in their beds.

Any union in favor of immigration is a bunch of fake leftist shysters. Wether Trotskyist or corp Liberal, all the same shit.

>tfw complete lefty when it comes to workers rights, and how the current state of corporate capitalism is an absolute fucking nightmarish dystopia
>anyone who would actually do anything about it bundles in lefty social bollocks like flooding western nations with shitskins, idpol, and general cultural marxist jewery

unironically is there no outlook where business is kept in line because the people of the nation should be protected? genuinely asking

>Illegal things happen even when they're illegal
No fucking shit. Do you actually think every dealership in your cunt sells for the price set by your government?
>Missing the point
>Being so autistic that you actually think that was supposed to be banter
lmaoing at your tiny third world brain

but you're the only one missing the point :)

>why is it bad that companies outsource all their jobs to people not paying into the country's economy
>why is it bad that corporations are too jewish to pay people proper wages to manufacture quality goods rather than cheap chinkshit and wages that can afford to buy more things and therefore put more money into the economy

Even as a staunch capitalist I think you should be guillotined jesus christ

Now watch nobody address this point.

It's not like that anymore

Co-op>union>corporate

>Do you actually think every dealership in your cunt sells for the price set by your government?
That's called the MSRP and it's suggested by the manufacturers.

>Do you actually think every dealership in your cunt sells for the price set by your government?
Yes. They have official brochures and everything, almost exclusively linked to a central website. The prices are not going up :)

Rarely are there ''third party'' dealers, and they certainly can't afford to jack prices, they stay competitive by LOWERING THEM.

Get it? USA is shit

its called national socialism

LMAO
Are you so fucking retarded that you actually believe corporations are bound by law?

When laws are enforced and made by people, and people are easily corruptible, the only thing that matters is money, and only corporations can provide the biggest amounts.

Laws and government work for the corporations, not you, and they haven't worked for you in decades.
All while the retards and common wealth fight each other ignoring the true problem.

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>outlook where business is kept in line because the people of the nation should be protected
Well there is this one thing...
>no u
lel

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>>anyone who would actually do anything about it bundles in lefty social bollocks like flooding western nations with shitskins, idpol, and general cultural marxist jewery

You really have to hand it to our kike overlords.

They completely destroyed the labor movement in just a few decades. All that's left is an impotent pozzed corpse.

The thing is user no one pays MSRP, that is basically a number set by the manufactures so it looks good when they agree to your lower number. That's the reason why they only make a couple hundred off most sales, because in order to move that car, they know they have to go lower and if they don't do it the dealership 10 miles down the road will. 500 bucks is better than 0, so unless its a car they absolutely know will move fast for a higher price than what you're offering, they'll sell you it. Its bullshit but that's how it works.

American companies should employ Christian American workers and support America.
Supporting Chinese atheist commies is un-american not the other way around.

>not paying into the country's economy.
I wish. if we were getting free shit for numbers on a bank sheet that would be amazing. sadly there is a reason it is called trade.
>why don't they pay Americans!
because Americans have a comparative advantage in other sectors primarily services?

>conservatives constantly bitch at how public-sector unions are bleeding states dry with high salaries and sweetheart pension deals for their members
>not wanting that for yourself

Being American means nothing anymore. I just want a comfy life and more money to buy figurines

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People who live around your imported pets are more worried about crime than some republicunts earning money (off illegal immigration and with your help) big fucking surprise.

former teamster here
keep a gun or a lawyer with you if you join a union, neither them or your employer are your friends. unions can have benefits but there's no guarantee they won't work with companies to line their pockets, look at consolidated fright trucking.

> When did I even talk about used cars?
When you bitched about car dealers being legal scalpers in > When did I even talk about unions?
This entire fucking threads has been about unions. The fuck are you even doing here without reading some of the thread?

> What are you on about? How hard is it to comprehend dealer networks here have a fixed MSRP and it's superior to your third world shithole?

That's your goalpost moving after you realize you can't win your initial argument. Keep moving that goalpost, retard. Also, a company that makes the car can set whatever MSRP they want. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Buy from another company that makes cheaper cars. This shit ain't about third world or not. It's about supply and demand. If nobody is gonna buy your shit at that high price, the company will naturally lower the price to be competitive. You're a fucking retard that thinks everyone will cooperate and jack up all the prices.

or places of employment could treat all employees equally to a pre-agreed upon wage that meets living expenses

>mafias are bad

Yes, we have that too. When you have competition you can generally buy it for below that price, that's why I'm arguing that muh price fixed dealerships is retarded. It only helps those too stupid to take advantage of market competition.
And I'm sure not one of them lies on those sites. What a good boy you are, believeing whatever they tell you.
>they stay competitive by LOWERING THEM.
Like all American dealerships?
>USA is shit
Have fun buying at the MSRP my third world friend.

Even at their worst, they are FAR better than unchecked libertarian capitalism.

Success can't trickle down when the glass at the top keeps getting wider.

Immigrants statistically commit less crime so that's them being retarded by eating up repoublican lies.

Well, maybe your tiny brain went to used cars, for some reason, but I exclusively meant new, and yes, your dealers, set, whatever, price, they want, for, new, cars. No goal posts were changed whatsoever

I already won this argument so there is no point reading the rest of your post

What do you people get out of corporate cocksucking? It's definitely not wages or benefits, and almost every corporation on the planet is out to screw you, the individual working for them, as hard as possible for maximum profit margins.

This ideology confuses me so much. Are you all so indoctrinated to "own the libs" that you genuinely want a shittier work life?

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if you've got good benefits, you don't need a union
if you don't, a union is your only real solution

unions and business owners compete to see who should benefit from your labor

What in the fuck are you even saying? Neither political party is Christian. No corporation is Christian. Stop buying into that nonsense. They are shamelessly greedy and do not help their fellow man in any way.

ˢᵐᵒˡˡ ᵇᵒᶜᶜ

How is it a lie? You go the manufacturer's website, there's a fixed price, you can even configure it and if they find a car identical at some lot, they'll bring it over :)
>Have fun buying at the MSRP my third world friend.
First off, your country is third world, yes, even your precious new england :)

Secondly, nobody buys at MSRP here, dealer either lowers or you go to other one :)

>I already won this argument so there is no point reading the rest of your post

You're a fucking retard that can't argue for shit. That is why you are running away.

>Immigrants statistically commit less crime

they still commit more crime than white americans

>There are other alternatives
Such as?

Running away from what? You're the one refusing to even talk about the subject at this point, that your dealers are scalpers and you defend them :)

>Average Hourly wages
>Hey did you know you can work people below the poverty line but balance it out by paying the CEO EVEN MORE?

You're the one changing goalposts every time you post something. And then refusing to read the rest of the argument. Therefore you are running away when you refuse to read. I already debulked your bullshit. Go read it, asshole.

Don't forget that they even have an app. Because nothing says 'I don't need a union' like your employer making an app to convince you that you don't need one.

Ideally, your company provides good benefits, so you don't need the union.
If not, then ideally your company's competition provides better benefits, so you don't need the union.
If your company has a pseudomonopoly, then they have no reason to push for your benefits and you have no alternatives, so then you need a union.

>Immigrants statistically commit less crime
Once you massage the stats enough.
Visit your local prison and see for yourself what a crock of shit those are.
Or live in a neighbourhood flooded with your pet criminal third-worlders, fuck all of any of us who can't afford to move somewhere decent are going to report Pedro's rapes, threats and violence when doing so puts a target on your back.
>inb4 call le cops
They exist to see to it that your corpse doesn't smell up the place afterwards.

Imagine being a socialist

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And I'm sure none of them "illegally" undercut the price when selling on lot to get a leg up over the competition.
>>First off, your country is third world
>no u
Third world intellect showing through.
>even your precious new england :)
Kek thirdies who get their entire world view from our own media is the fucking best.
>Secondly, nobody buys at MSRP here, dealer either lowers or you go to other one
So the prices aren't fixed then. Congratulations, you have car dealerships that operate exactly like ours do. Welcome to the "third world" my guy.

The creation of the stock market was the end of capitalism

Obviously. They'll do anything to prevent paying their ridiculous profits to the employees that keep them going.

>I deserve a better life even if I was born working-class
>People also born working-class but also face other difficulties because they are women, LGBT, non-White etc can just die, I will not vote Democrat unless they promise to ignore social issues

Small wonder life in the US is what it is. Daddy Trump's tariffs are going to rape your precious industry jobs BTW.

Bootstrap culture. When the masses believe "just work towards it boy" and there are enough success stories and rewards, this is what happens. Even from day 1 in school you're basically being reprogrammed to stop thinking for yourself and only thing for others. That and the relative comfort still being too high for people to get upset enough to fight.

It's hard to put up a fight and resist when you A: don't have the security to do so without risk and B: no one else appears to be fighting either. At that point you can only smile, nod and fight them privately at every turn without getting detected until you get to a position you can oppose them..

You're making a faulty assumption, just because your employer's competitor offers better benefits doesn't mean you can actually get a job there. If anything it's going to be harder, since their jobs will be more sought-after. Your premise only works if we assume that all employers are hiring indefinitely.

It's called social nationalism* or strasserism or nazbol
youtube.com/watch?v=yDnnXZSByrE
Final redpill but retard polfags think enslaving brown people and Jews again will work.

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I'd unironically work 14 hours per day if it means trannies are free to get hunted down like game.

Immigration doesn't lower wages. Republicans war on unions lower wages.

I make $42 an hour in construction but for every dollar I make, the company pays $1 to my union for benefits for me. So in reality, I make $84 an hour, but half of it never reaches my hands until I tap for benefits, like health insurance, retirement, annuity money, vacation money, etc etc. So before taxes and union, I make $160,000 a year, but it's cut in half to the union, taxed, and I end up with around $60,000 to play with as my paycheck.

Whites don't go to prison, they get community service.

Then you're a fucking idiot. You get one life on this planet, why would you sacrifice your own happiness just so "trannies", a group that's sort of annoying and gross would suffer?

Stop caring so much about other people and do your own thing.

Americans have a weird assumption that unchecked capitalism continues to bring them prosperity, despite the fact that the only metric that they're still #1 in is obesity

Spics are turning them socialist very fast. They're going to be forced to love welfare very soon

If only they would fight for their members instead of just negotiating the price.

Based and strasserpilled

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>be me
>working for UPS while in college
>work with some lazy sheboon
>always have to pick up her slack
>bring it up with our boss
>he says he wants to fire her but can't because of the union
Fuck you. I'm worth MUCH more than the weakest links, and shouldn't be stuck dealing with their shit because lol we're a collective.

Found the Ron Paul/Bernie-kid

Based and redpilled

So would unions in the vidya industry be helpful or detrimental? I'm curious because if shit really is as bad as some employees say it is, then shit can't really get worse.

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>face other difficulties
Manufactured wedge issues.
Ones your preferred political party seek to address by wealth redistribution away from the lower and middle blue collar workers that tend to unionize.

Your idpol shit is socialliberalism for rich upper middle class neoliberals, it's antithetical to actual leftist economics.

Look at the EU. Any industry can be regulated if the overseers aren't completely corrupt. America's lobbyists do everything in their power to prevent oversight committees from existing.

The gaming industry created the ESRB to oversee the industry in an attempt to curb the government. Look what happened, companies like EA and Activision were given free reign, while small developers were under the whip.

>Visit your local prison and see for yourself what a crock of shit those are.
yes because the civil enforcement of a country who made a point of legally ostracizing blacks until 50 years ago couldn't possibly have a racial bias

user, why is there so much hate in your heart?

You sound like you need more diversity to cure your racism. I'm thinking maybe a few Somalians this time.

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You are now realizing how much Republicans rely on identity politics.

All I'm saying is Unions employing American workers who are most likely christian are better then corporations that employ overseas red atheist.

dilate traniggers

No, actually. Americans tend to love government interference in the market.

Unions in vidya industry would do nothing since vidya industry coding is already filled the the brim with bottom of the fucking barrel programmers who make less than any other field.

Democratic Socialist or the Chinese/Russian kind?

>Final redpill but retard polfags think enslaving brown people and Jews again will work.
No they don't.

You have no idea. There are horrible assholes hiring illegal immigrates for lower than min wage. Once the work is done, they get immigration services to arrest and deport all of them so they don't have to pay shit. It beats hiring actual legal immigrants and citizens.

At certain walmarts, home depot and other big chain stores, there are tons of illegal immigrates just hanging out waiting to be picked up for a job. You can go up to them and haggle a price for them to do heavy lifting. Usually less than min wage a hour and they will do it. I know because my uncle used to hire them like that. Tho he has never fucked them over, he always paid them the agreed price.

>not using this as an excuse to slack off too

sounds like she's got this shit figured out user, you got some learning to do

Literally just russian imperialists who don't want to deal with the chechen plague like actual russian nationalists do.
A pathetic meme spawned by Dugin and Limonov and perpetuated by leftypol retards.

Yeah sure, I bet you think you can go up in the upper tax brackets and get into the middle class with one factory job. You're already in the crab bucket mentality you sad generic man.

Vice local chairman for my lodge reporting

>466583679
$700 a year? i pay $1200

The only negative about being union are the dues.

But because i am a member i can not be fired for anything unreasonable ( standing up for myself,saying no to over time ect. And believe it or not shitty unsafe employees do get fired all the time)
I also make $50/hr
get 5 weeks vacation
pension
full dental (for my wife and children included)
Work gear paid for (up to $500)
Fitness plan (Gym membership,sports club membership, or home equipment purchases up to $1000)
get paid for 8 hours even if i only work two
Employee shares package
The choice to refuse overtime and refuse to come in on my days off.
Unions here in North america get a really bad rap but there is a saying a union is only as good as its membership
Where i work because all of us own shares in the company we all want to see it do well so for the most part its very rare someone fucks around and tries to stick it to the company.
Not to mention our relations with managment are on great terms because whenever we go into bargaining both sides know we have to play ball and cant ask for the moon
Also fuck teamsters

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>regulation is what stoos equillibration and freedom of choice
>hurr we need mo reguylayshuns am shit my nigga wif dem muny fo dem programs nawmsayin

How did Republicans do such a good job convincing working class Americans to be against unions?

Look thee cancer of latin america is now in the game industry what can go brong?

Democratic Socialist isn't a Socialist

>haha yes goyim dont negotiate wages trust us we'll protect you from those greedy jews

So now that you're literally torturing children in the border camps all the beautiful Christian White workers are about to get a utopia? No? Still opiate epidemics and stagnant wages and student debt for everyone?

People didn't vote for Trump to get better lives for honest workers. They voted Trump because they miss lynchings and they miss seeing black protesters getting bitten to death by police dogs on TV.

Nazi economy relied partially on the plans and goals of enslaving and killing minorities hitler planned to enslave the eastern slab people while the "Aryan" people lived off their labor but of course still did some work

Not really, you are so mentally addled you can't even comprehend a fixed price situation where the dealer isn't allowed to fuck customers :)
Except, my fellow third worlder, they aren't allowed to go above MSRP, completely different situation :)

Now stop being mad over nothing, you'll hit your internet data cap and have to purchase more shitposting time at the low price of 499$ (tax not included)

""Whites"" go to prison all the time, there's just not enough severe criminals among them in large enough concentrations to flood the prison system like blacks and hispanics do.

How do people who've never worked a physical labor ob in their lives get the confidence to talk about things they've never had to deal with?

they are regulated by the government and if you are an essential service you cant even strike without the government legislating you back to work

Intense lobbying and being on the side of the people who have the most money in the world who can use that money to influence every single facet of your life.

Is this meant to be sarcastic or not? I can't tell.

there's no such thing as whites

>'ate unions
>'ate vaccines
>'ate taxes being used for anything except the military
>love guns
>love jesus
>love me mom
>simple as
America: fighting the battles of last century, today

Teamsters Rail Conference member here. Our union dues are like $2400 a year where I live. To be honest though we get it back via lost work claims and other stuff.

What's that got to do with /pol/? People on /pol/ want them gone, back home, not enslaved. What do you get out of lying about this?

By exploiting the hate of working-class women, working-class non-whites and working-class LGBTs. Look how many threads on unions on Yea Forums mention "whores", "mudskins", "trannies" and "SJWs".

Unions literally are "dem programs"

>completely different situation
Only for the inept, my thirdie friend.

The most altruistic argument I've seen for voting for Trump was that the 2016 presidentials really were a "least of two evils situation" and that many who voted for him thought he was the worse, hoping that he'd drive straight into a brick wall and we could pick up the pieces as a society after that

I voted independent because I refuse to compromise on my integrity, but the least I'll give them is that I can at least understand the mentality of a protest vote

Yeah has nothing to do with the rampant criminality you see among blacks everywhere.
Oh sorry I forgot, jackoffs like you have never seen a black person in their natural habitat.

they associated it with an emotional response instead of a logical one

How much do you hate working for CP rail?

Where you happy when old HH finally bit the dust?

Unions are absolute garbage.

>why do keynesians that interfere with the market at every turn want to import more people to keep the ponzi scheme running
Beats me

No need to call yourself out

Try to counter literally any of these points, libtards.

I'll wait.

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motherfucker i live in cleveland, this city conditions you to be racist but i'm still not so reductive that i can't see the nuance in the situation

Whites get much lighter sentences for the same crimes
abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/black-men-sentenced-time-white-men-crime-study/story?id=51203491

>not wanting to be part of the mafia
fag

America is the least capitalist country in the developed world

Then why do most identify as white supremacists, natsoc, or fascist when they can just be anti eu or anti immigration.

>have a cush job installing fiber internet
>use my own truck and get paid per job
>if my jobs are easy I can do 3 or 4 before noon
>100$ a job
>some guys think the boss is a dick and want more jobs
>contact local union
>vote them in
>Place closes up shop the next week

Fuck unions

Poor people get fucked by the criminal justice system, user. For-profit prisons are incentivized to keep people in jail with minimum sentencing and by lobbying fucking judges to fill their prisons with people who cant afford big money lawyers. Sorry the stats dont actually coincide with your feelings, immigrants commit less crime than native population here.

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So based on what you know, what do you think a solution is? Should programmers just deal with their conditions or just pick themselves up and move to a different dev?

>no u
C'mon, you can do better than this.

It's called socialism. Thinking that idpol and shitskins are "cultural Marxism" and not cultural Americanism/capitalism is merely the result of brainwashing and corporate interference.

Which part of Europe do you think is the one with Muslims? The one that was unapologetically socialist or the one that was capitalist?

it depends honestly. if they went the way of the film industry where nobody could do anybody elses job it would ruin the work of a lot of renaissance men at big studios who can do a bit of everything really well. but a reasonable union to crack down on crunch would be good. See the reason crunch exists is because of the cyclical nature of game development. Making a guy work 80 hour weeks for 3 months than 40 for 9 months is still cheaper than having two people work 40 hours for 12 months. they could hire contract workers, but hiring them constantly bringing them up to speed training them would also be expensive, and you wouldn't get the best of the best working for 3 month terms. with unions they would have to get the second employee which would probably lead to better games because less burn out, and more small/passion projects to make use of the dead time from additional employees.

EU is no angel either. Plenty of big companies that survive only on buying out the small ones before they get dangerous to the point you get monopolies based on popularity instead of product quality, as well as artificial rules that prevent newer companies from getting in easy. In that regard, making a start-up is generally easier in the US.

>So now that you're literally torturing children in the border camps all the beautiful Christian White workers are about to get a utopia? No? Still opiate epidemics and stagnant wages and student debt for everyone?

Your entire post is goalpost moving.

Nobody is torturing children you retard. At least learn the truth of what really is happening before you sprout your cnn propaganda.

Lots of those children are sent to the border alone by their parents or stolen from bad people who think they can get into america if they are accompanied by a child. Most of the kids there didn't get there with their parents. Just some unknown adult towing them.

> No? Still opiate epidemics and stagnant wages and student debt for everyone?

I'm sure you're gonna blame Trump for that because you have TDS. Problems like that have been there way before Trump took office.

> They voted Trump because they miss lynchings and they miss seeing black protesters getting bitten to death by police dogs on TV.

You have no idea how much better the economy is doing because of Trump and how much he's done for the black community. Keep watching your CNN echo chamber, retard.

Huge difference between unions and teamsters there, Jethro.

So let me get this straight. People abuse the system which can realistically happen with any system, they are caught, charged and punished and this is your example of a problem with unions? Sounds like everything is working as intended. Like fuck how many high level executives have been charged with financial crimes? Why wouldn't you use that same logic to shut down wall street or get rid of executives if you use the logic to shut down unions and get rid of union leaders?

/pol/ is the most left leaning board on this site

>you are so mentally addled you can't even comprehend a fixed price situation where the dealer isn't allowed to fuck customers :)

You can't comprehend capitalism and supply&demand. You think all companies will come together to jack up the prices so nobody can afford it. That's not how capitalism works and not how businesses work. brainlet.

>much lighter
>20%
Mathematically, then, there would be 20% less white people currently in prison if there were an equal number of whites and blacks. Still should be much more whites with the current ratios.
Funny how that's not the case.

>you don't want to be taxed more to pay for gender studies certifications, pushing mental destruction on your kids (cuz fuck you can't afford decent schools that avoid that shit) and mass immigration courtesy of people who've never dond physical work in their lives
Yeah i'm sure wanting what's best for me and mine over HR soc-cunt politics comes across as crab-bucket mentality to a "we're all on the same side" snake oil shyster like yourself.
In reality it's looking out for worker's interest, something you and yours have never done no matter how much you coopt the rethoric of old school european socdems.

CN. I don't hate it, it has its problems but the money is right. We lost en-training moving equipment this year which is retarded. I think most people are satisfied that Hunter Harrison is burning in hell right now regardless.

LOL

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That only happens with things like telecoms and insurance due to huge regulatory barriers essentially meaning the government hands the market to a few pre established players and prosecutes any others who dare to compete.

Recidivism, conduct in court, prior history. This is like when people say "women get paid less for the same work".

How come japan and america are the only countries with work ethic?

This is the price of freedom.

>Mathematically, then, there would be 20% less white people currently in prison
I don't think this math is right but I don't have the mathematical knowhow to counter it.

America is cyberpunk as fuck, except you don't get the cool cyber stuff. And the punk part is replaced with people being legit brainwashed into fellating corporate cock.
So the only thing you have left is a dystopian society that honestly thinks it's the greatest country in the world.

Is that why most posters eat daddy Trump's asshole if it means no leftist president, false-flag left-leaning candidates and causes to spread disinfo as bad-faith arguments, have a Christian general thread, and trade infographics with biased studies from the 1970's as if they apply to populations in 2019?

They didn't, people started hating unions once the mob and mob wannabees got involved with Hoffa and onward. Even up until the 90s it was very open that certain jobs were their turf famous example being garbage management in NYC.

for a while before he died my grandfather was suffering from very obvious dementia and some car dealer pulled the same shit, except he actually had the money to pay and almost did before my dad intervened
fucking scum

They'd take paid vacation if they could, user. It's not offered to them.

It's cybercuck

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>They'd take paid vacation if they could
Source?

>corporations are a problem due to the government molesting the market and hammering all competition with threat of force and bureaucratic autism
>I know ! What we need is to simply hand all property to one monolithic entity, the same one supposedly corruptable by greed and money

>get a job at an unionized grocery store
>Can't get more than 8 hours because seniority rules by the union dictate I can't get more hours than someone who's been there longer
>Contract demands extensive availability anyways so can't get second job
>Barely make ends meet and went to eating only two meals a day
>Pay for this to happen to me
>Get job at Walmart, no unions
>Hours are flexible, and work for my needs

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>works for only the length of the television episodes
uh, retard?

>Implies working longer means having a better work ethic
>Still doesn't realize working more doesn't necessarily increase productivity
>Still doesn't realize there's more to life than work
I'm so sorry user.
>Yes this is clearly bait

>immigrants commit less crime than native population here.
Move to an immigrant heavy area.

Just because one person is a scummy scam, doesn't mean everyone will be. Just buy from someone else who has better reputation. Not everyone is a shitty chink robocalling scammer. And the legit ones really don't come to your hospital to scam old crazy people.

They don't?

>t. anti-union propagandist
also fuck walmart

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DANCE FOR ME, WAGIES

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It's in the middle of the day and this thread has almost 300 replies, do we really not have a single janny to do anything about this /pol/ leakage?
I don't understand what kind of autism leads to people feeling the need to make /pol/ threads on a board about video games.

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Perhaps it's different in canada

>working longer means having a better work ethic
it's true tho

>says the r/t_d faggot

capitalism is a meme. take the third position pill

Based. If wagies want their minimal wage have other stupid wagies pay for that. Capitalism wins again, baby!

you realize the cage is to protect people, right? Machinery kills people.

it's like calling a car a cage, despite a car being a million times safer than a motorcycle

>unionized grocery store
what

Take your bait elsewhere

This corporations are bad ecause monopolies and shit so we need to give tge government more power to stamp out corruption and stop the influence of these corporate shills

>not in the union
>work for 10 dollars an hour concrete forming
>had to even fight for that as i was starting at 9 dollars but had to talk with the company boss and get hounded by my boss who thinks i dont work hard enough
>in the union
>work for 17.50 starting in the poorest state in the union building scaffolds, with harnesses
>pay less than 100 dollars yearly, with the price going down every few years, and with guaranteed pay raises every 6 months for the first 4 years
>DURRR UNIONS BAD
maybe if these little startups weren't fucking terrible. the only money youll make in them is if you start your own company

cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/hapafxshyp/tabs_HP_paid_vacation_20140828.pdf

Did you think it would be hard to find this?

America is the least capitalist "developed" nation in the world

Part of union rules is you cant shop at Wal-Mart's right?
Also indeed

Why do chapotards come here?

become communist

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top kek

>

>deregulate something
>financial crisis happens almost always
>lol deregulation is good!
what is the common denominator when shit goes south retard

>America is the least capitalist
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha

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>forfeit your power and dignity for some bing bing wahoo
Americans fall for this...

This
A real champion of the people understands you have to kill both the capitalist and the "capitalist"
That means you tranny

Part of the reason our education sucks

I would if communist theory wasn't made up entirely of grifters who pretended to read Hegel

Americans are literally Capitalism: The Nation. Their whole culture consists of private companies operating for profit.

Because the outspoken right presence on this board is very obviously teenaged

They'd call a bunch of they had a chance for a morally questionable sale, because they stay afloat in morally questionable leases and warranties that aren't honored. These fuckers see a bipolar person off their meds as their next paycheck, mental illness is a boon for them in a world of credit.

Some aren't but they are the exception.

That's what I'm getting at nigger

>women and niggers don't have work ethic
nice self-own, lazy groid.

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Trying not to kill themselves I would bet.

Arguably so are chapotards

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Literally everything needs regulation. Unchecked ANYTHING is bad because human emotion plays too much of a roll

I would but they're atheist.
And that's pretty cringe

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Perma redditor virgins detected

>thank you based walmart for letting me work triple shifts to barely make ends meet
t. employee of the month

It's true brainlet. It's less capitalist than, for example, Sweden.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

imagine having a tiny ass minority, less than 0.1%, life rent free in your head to the point where you'd seek them out to ruin your own miserable life
top kek

>blatant communist agitation thread with almost nothing to do with vidya stays up
based left-wing jannies

How long do you think it will be before someone kills them? l'm honestly curious.

again... a few bad eggs doesn't mean all of them are bad. You're too hooked on the few bad ones that you don't see the decent ones.

Where the fuck did you get that idea

>only metric that they're still #1 in is obesity
We're not even close. The US is in 17th place according to wikipedia. You know what the US is first place in? GDP.

Regulation is what causes the market to be so far feom equilibratiin in the first place. The boom-bust cyclw is also a result of keynsian policies. Open a textbook or merely usw your brain.

isn't that basically antithetical to what marx said

Jannies are chapo trannies

If communism came about today it would most likely be dead by anti Christian pro lgbt degenerate leaders.

Only americunt-like union i've seen locally almost forced all their 200 or so members out of a job over a minor organization detail.
They would have been too if they hadn't booted all their top reps and reorganized more along our local collaborativist lines.

Tldr was painters union, new tops try to make a stink over a one time paid travel & paint job that only one person wanted that tired old strat of start your new position with a 'win', tried to make those mandatory offerings at inc pay and the owner simply had enough of their foreign retardation and started filing to close down the firm.
They only barely got him to cancel it after telling the assholes involved to take a hike.

>It's less capitalist than, for example, Sweden.

Are these people for real or is it just meme?

IM
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

I never said anything about work ethic user, just that people would take paid vacation if it was offered. user wanted a source and I gave him one that pretty heavily supports the idea. He just looked at 0 offered vacation and said that that makes people have good work ethic.
And I'd say that black people are poorer and work Whittier jobs on average, so I can understand wanting time away.

Wrong

I DON'T SEE DANCING

YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR JOB DON'T YOU WAGIE?

youtube.com/watch?v=HpPUUWp5sO4

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It is, luckily leftists don't read their own theory

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
>The Nordic model refers to the economic and social policies common to the Nordic countries (Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Norway, and Sweden). This includes a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level with a high percentage of the workforce unionised

sounds pretty fuckin pinko to me

Just in the states, maybe. Especially UAW. I lost so much when they entered our location. It only benefited the lazy.

No. Marxism is just Christian heresy anyway.

Its a chapotard doing a bit

Isn't that just nazbol?

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You sound like a niggermonkey

>human emotion plays role
>so a human should hold all power and interfere with market equillibration

>DontRiskItDontSignIt.com
oh my fuck

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>muh ebil ameriKKKan gabbitalism XD
America is a fucking communist dictatorship. The government literally monopolizes the military might and we have like 5 secret polices and counting.

>a few bad eggs
Sure, user. Its okay if you have no money to put down, just... Lease it. No payments for 24 months dont worry about it. We'll offer you our extended warranty at a slight discount too. We care, we really do. Just sign right here...

Wrong. Americans are the leading people and champions of capitalism. Without Americans global capitalism would most likely be gone now.

>its not free
>you pay for the union
lol okay wang po do you wanna know how much I pay to be in the union as opposed to how much i would if i wasnt?
get the fuck out of here with your stupid under 25 ass

Sweden is economically freer than the US. Arguably the 50% tax rate is just cryptosocialism though.

Too obvious, be more subtle with your bair

they don't jack up the profits so high people can afford it, they jack up the profits just high enough where they can maximize profits and keep sales.

I have no idea why you people prattle on about the ideal way capitalism should work like you read about it in your 8th grade textbooks. The invisible hand exists only to jack off corporations

That's not communism retard that's authoritarianism

what argument do you have against this? why the fuck would a worker be against paid vacations? im serious, i want to understand why someone WOULDN"T want this, besides obviously wanting to own your own business down the line (and even still, given that it cannot be that expensive)

>The government literally monopolizes the military might
That's the definition of working state.

>become a proletariat!
>yeah stick it to the man!
welcome to the gulags motherfucker

youtube.com/watch?v=JIoZHGupZA8

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Mutts are indoctrinated by corporations.

I genuinely can't with for American Socialist "revolution". Putting rounds into upper class trannies radical liberals from a Brooklyn high rise will be the highlight of my life.

10/10, can't wait to see the screenshot on the top of r/chapotraphouse

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>Sweden is economically freer than the US.
What the fuck is "economically freer"? And why the fuck do you think Sweden in all the world would be described as such?

What possible benefit does shopping out Mike for the wojak add?

It's closer to 33% if you're not a) stinking rich and b) making that kind of money as your pay and not as low-tax investments.
Still way roo high now that non-Swedes are destroying all the benefits of our welfare model by leeching and politicians funneling our money through them.

The market is made of humans

I hate Chapofag succdems and demsuccs so much.

Unions are glorified labour cartels.

Unions have nothing to do with the massive rise in living standards since the 1800s, increases in economic production did that.

Leftists fight against their own economic interests.
Fuck socialism and fuck central banking.

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most people who give a shit about themselves, their families or otther people or have any common sense like unions; but every now and then you'll get some far right conservative retard who thinks hes going to get paid more by sticking his face in the mud and using both his arms to widen his cheeks to see how many corporations he can fit in his ass

if you dont like unions you are quite frankly a retard and there is no reasoning with you. if you think a few dollars a week is a huge trade-off compared to all of the benefits of being in one you dont deserve to have a fucking brain or a life and you should kill yourself

The nordic model is economically freer than the US "regulate into oblivion" model. Admittedly the subsequent taxation arguably functions as cryptosocialism. The model is still however to have an essentially completely free market and leach off that. Denmark is succesful inspite of it retarded programs because of how free it's market is. A free market makes everyone well off even when the government steal half their money

Pretty sure that's what's called a "joke", user.

Reminder that if you're posting here you're already an enemy of the global south and the actual proletariat and just another liberal

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Take the tedpill

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Shit, I got spotted too quickly.

But I'll return, and next time I WILL get those (You)s.

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Why do I give a shit about what they think?

>We lost en-training moving equipment this year which is retarded

Buddy i do it every fucking day. I cant wait to fail my efficiency test and now my hogger and i have a code when im telling him im getting off i whistle into the mic

you need to pay dues to the union but on average you earn much more money back from being in a union. definitely dont agree with worker unions as it doesnt cooperate with the global economy, but thats just wrong

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user... that doesn't prove that they are bad people. Sometimes you just need a car, especially if you don't live in the city with public transportation and can only pay in installments.

You're really grasping for straws here.

>Give me all your labour for free and I'll make sure you get fed at night ;)

I can assure goy, the current taxrate is fair

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This desu, chapofag liberals ruined the modern left wing

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america isn't even capitalist anymore

constant mixing of socialism and captailism has created the modern day american cronyism that is so destructive to production

youtube.com/watch?v=4Vw6uF2LdZw

no one will refute this btw because buzzwords and tribalism is more interesting than facing reality

almost like corperations will lie to benefit themselves.

>proletariat
there is no actual proletariat
marx was a retard and his theories are illogical

>Chinese scorning people with a moral compass of any kind
Color me surprised.

>real problems of the world
Like how to clean gore out of escalators?

hmmm

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Dunno but I wonder if Mike ever realized the irony of someone with a communications degree and celebrity tv job telling a bunch of plebeians that they should just suck it up and wageslave

Union saved my bonus when a manager had it in for me by providing reps and doing the entire arbitration process for me.

Happy to pay £130 a year if it means not losing £4k on the whim of someone who dislikes me personally.

There's no law saying you have to be in the union.

Wrong. America is the least economically free developed nation. Admittedly Americans originally were some of the biggest proponents of unmolested markets and telling government niggers to fuck off considering that was the impetus for its founding. Americans now however are a very servile people probably due to all the slave admixture.

If you want to create a revolution of the proletariat you would unironically kill yourself liberal

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ok nihao kai lan i dont give a fuck about the chinese or the sand niggers but im not a stupid enough faggot to beleive that corporations give even a smidgen of a fuck about anyone who works for them

they shit on you and replace you like its nothing; i dont have to love mudslimes or be left at all to even slightly believe that unions are good

Amen, never met one of these scumbags and have them know the first thing about working class people. Laughed my ass off when leftypoltards started going on about lower end jobs and no one there grasped the simplest issues involving work that wasn't teenage burgerflipping or government jobs.

nice false flag chapo succdem

>American slave mix literally cannot understand the concept of a free market

based zizek

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Sorry that no one thinks dog eaters have moral superiority

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>If you want to create a revolution of the proletariat
Why would I do that?

You can sell people cars without being predatory and obfuscating actual costs down the line. Oh wait, that's just a few bad apples and not standard practice haha. Give me a break, faggot. Im not taking away business from your uncle's used car dealership by posting here so you dont have to be a wishy washy cunt about the truth of the business.

The Chinese are right, moralfags are truly shit.

Then you're fine, chapo red army larpers need to shut the fuck up though

>they don't jack up the profits so high people can afford it, they jack up the profits just high enough where they can maximize profits and keep sales.

welcome to capitalism. Nobody is gonna sell you something if they can't make money. And if they can, they will maximize the amount they can make off it.

> I have no idea why you people prattle on about the ideal way capitalism should work like you read about it in your 8th grade textbooks. The invisible hand exists only to jack off corporations

You're the retard there. There will be competitors. To beat their competitors, they will lower the price so their cars can sell over their competitors.

Business 101, but you're too ignorant to learn it. And this has already been posted before but you keep refusing to read anyhow, so I don't know why I'm bothering to reply anymore.

wtf why is Yea Forums left wing now? Is this the work of trannys?

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Why do Americans who earn less than $150k a year vote against their own financial interests?

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>>Give me all your labour for free and I'll make sure you get fed at night ;)
yes, this is what unions want

This is absolute horseshit, taxes on the rich were about the same as they are today, there were extreme fucking deductions.

Also the taxes only applied if you made the equivalent to about 2 million dollars today, the vast majority of people had low taxes.

Notice how things only changed in the 70s when we got off the gold standard and gave the federal reserve total power over our economy.

Stop being a leftist, stop voting against your own economic interests.

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maybe you should be more concerned about your own situation, cheng

>The Chinese are right
Sure thing mr. chingchong ping pong

>America is the least economically free developed nation.
Again what the fuck is "economically free"?

>Americans originally were some of the biggest proponents of unmolested markets and telling government niggers to fuck off
Hence Americans are "Capitalism: The Nation"

>Working hard for UPS ever
That company would fuck you every which way it can if it could. The management literally only cares abput their raises, nothing more. Hard work at UPS is rewarded with only more hard work. It is a shitshow of a job and the union, shitty as it is, is the only thing that makes it tolerable. Sheboon has the right idea. You are the problem for thinking you 'have to pick up her slack' at all. Work safe. Not hard.

I have never had a single decent Delta flight experience.

Why do chapotards think they're working class?

Boil another dog alive, Chang.

I play videogames and see the industry that makes them for what it is.

>You can sell people cars without being predatory and obfuscating actual costs down the line.

And that's why I told you not every fucking car selling is the sort of scum that will go to hospitals to terrorize crazy people.

> Oh wait, that's just a few bad apples and not standard practice haha. Give me a break, faggot. Im not taking away business from your uncle's used car dealership by posting here so you dont have to be a wishy washy cunt about the truth of the business.

OK user, if you want to believe everyone is out to get you, I'm not stopping you. You're delusional and paranoid as fuck about car dealers.

lmao americans are extreme pathetic retards

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The only situation I care about is that moralfags ruined every website I visit. IRL problems don't belong on an anonymous imageboard.

Why do leftists AND Trump supporters vote against their own economic interests?
Why do you love central banking and government control over the economy so much?
Do you enjoy being poor?

Zizek isn't actually a marxist.
Marxism is absolutely retarded and denies human biological instincts.
Don't get me started on dialectical materialism.

Boomers have created a large subgroup of millennials and gen y'ers who don't fit into the traditional conservative mold. They hate corporations and niggers

I smile every time PETA kills a dog :^), and it's mostly because I enjoy being a contrarian.

they don't. But they sure know how to pay for charts like that to confuse the retarded cnn watchers into not voting for Trump.

With what unions are up to these days, I might actually become a corporatist shill. It's all garbage made by humans to fuck with other humans.

>getting assmad that some nigger won't give all his property to Jews
Some faggot having 330k a year doesnt hurt you, him giving more money to a single entity however increases the supposed wealth disparity you complain about.

>Again what the fuck is "economically free"?
pic related

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I'm sure that's what (((they))) would like.

Capitalisms. Communists. There is a common ground here. Humans in the majority of cases will abuse whatever system is in play to grasp power for themselves and their own. We enjoy tribalism. We enjoy being pit against one another. We enjoy selecting scapegoats from our own species to explain away our failings. And so a lasting benevolent governance or system is fundamentally impossible.

I've never understood the mindset of excessive opulence so many wealthy people have.
You already have more money than you could possibly ever spend and will never need to worry about anything monetarily for your natural life. So why continue trying to get even more money?

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The chart doesn't exactly lie, but the headline of it is extremely misleading. It's purposely made for idiots like you.

>wake up
>wipe nigger cum off of eyes
>check my phone to see if the latest episode from the podcast that actually hates me dropped
>no
>go on twitter, post 'YAAAS KWEEN SLAAY' to AOCs latest tweet
>mom comes down to my basement, serves me vegan and ethically sourced oatmeal
>tell her to shoo, I have important work to do for the global proletariat
>post trolls on Yea Forums
>collect those (you)s
>lmao, the proletariat has been liberated today
>end day by playing 8 hours of overwatch ironically
such is life for the posting vanguard

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>retards still defending commie unions

I wonder how that's going for all those laid off auto industry workers whose jobs have been sent to Mexico where Pedro works a normal shift, gets an honest wage, and doesn't lose half of his paycheck to some (((union boss))) who promises unicorn shit like 5 hour lunch breaks, 3 paid months of vacation a year, and $200k USD in retirement payouts a year.

MCDONALDS, MCDONALDS, KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN AND A PIZZA HUT

Because they don't watch CNN and can tell for themselves if they got more or less at the end of the year.
Do you retards think that stuff actually works on someone who normally only have money for food, rent and the most cheap of luxuries who suddenly get $200-$500 more in their pocket?
Sheltered fucking idiots. Materialists my ass.

Greed

>Zizek isn't actually a marxist.
Yeah no shit, it's why he's so great at repelling these liberal larpers

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>Why do you love central banking and government control over the economy so much?
*coughs in subprime mortgage crisis*

If you don't support free markets you are an absolute fucking BRAINLET.
Central banking, government spending, high taxes, massive regulations are the reason your living standards are stagnating.

Money does not equal resources, the money the rich save(ie. DON'T SPEND) simply makes all other money in the economy more valuable, decreasing(or suppressing a further increase) prices.
The fact the super rich save all of their money and don't blindly give it all away to the poor is the reason we're all not living in hyperinflation and poverty right now.
The working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
If you take the super rich people's money and give it to them it simply causes price increases and massive shortages.

>everyone
Just used car dealers, who are really only out for my money not me. They want to give me overpriced trash to lease it away with because that makes me overpay for shit. If you've never had to deal with used car industry then goid for you.
If you do then co e to the table knowing they will try to fuck you, because you get fucked if it's possible.

>not every
Just most. Most will call between deals if it can make them a buck.

Stop crying, poorfag

Well this but it's also about status. You become rich, you start hanging around with other rich people and so you want to be the richest among those.

i just realized i was left winged, i dont know exactly how this happened
but i STILL HATE NIGGERS

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cringe
basedpill

Imagine having to explain to your other richfag friends why did you decide to stop generating billions of dollars by existing at the cocktail party during the annual ritual to baal.

>implying american autos weren't shit before muh unions ruined everything

we didn't let mods purge left wing bait threads

Liberal means freedom.
You're literally against freedom and you enjoy licking boots.

>*coughs in subprime mortgage crisis*
*coughs in a direct result of central bank pumping trillions into the housing market and fannie and freddie(government institutions) being responsible for the majority of the bad loans*

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Yes but if you've ever been a part of one just like a gang/Mafia etc if you get fucked with they will back you up. Which in the case of the job market and other nonsense is very good especially nowadays when companies have gotten more and more robotic and cruel.

You'll grow out of it when you realize taking wealth from the capitalist class doesn't actually benefit the working class in any shape or form.

V I D E O G A M E S

>build up a business including a storefront, inventory, market research, and supply logistics
>assume all of the risk if anything goes wrong
>some dime a dozen fuckboy who puts the shit in a bag wants $15 an hour
>Bro it's not immoral of me to sic jackbooted thugs on you to get my way, I'm basically a serf here doing all the work while you just sit in front of that computer playing that "Excel" game!

Most of the points in B should be in general "rule of law", but otherwise it looks solid.

But I doubt that this would put Sweden as "freer" than US.

Liberal is their slur for anyone who isn't apart of their little ideological brain cult. I have no issues with "liberals", I have issues with these guys who have entirely cannibalized and betrayed their stupid ideology.

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They do that for a lot of places. Some convenience store/gas station named Royal Farms was being built near me and used non-union labor, and there was a giant rat outside of each location that was being built.

When you're rich as fuck you find out that the system is actually trying its hardest to fuck you over. Taxes are high, company expenses might come onto you, investments might crash. The strangest thing is that the more money you earn, the faster it seems to drain. Since humans get distressed over that shit, the only real option is to make even more, which exacerbates the whole process.

Fuck off christfag

You have to have ambition and goals to be rich.

>live in a state where being union isn't mandatory to work my field

>would be making over $10/hr less and have almost no benefits if I wasn't union

Fuck that shit. The $15/week in union dues is well worth it. Non-unioned workers in my field are Mexicans who probably aren't even in the country legally and will work for $5/hr.

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Rule of law is one of the requirements of having a free market.

>But I doubt that this would put Sweden as "freer" than US.
You'd be surprised, they have lower taxes and lower regulations.
Also less central bank intervention.

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As opposed to the fucking cartels that corporations have become!?

>Liberal means freedom
Give me freedom from foreigner intruders aka immigrants and i'll believe that.
As-is the only freedom Liberals represent is the destruction of civil society but with a corporatist tinge.

>>would be making over $10/hr less and have almost no benefits if I wasn't union
Proof?
I went from a union shop to a non union shop and now I get paid more and actually get bonuses for working harder.
When I was in the union everyone got paid the same.

>needing to be rich to realize the only ones really profiting are the lizard people pulling the strings

what do the rats accomplish? do they get people to hire unions? why are people so dumb and so gay?
im also dumb and gay no homo can someone explain thsi?

>Hey we need you to start giving out thousands of bad loans to people who should not be given loans in order to inflate home ownership
>Failure to do so will get the DOJ crawling up your ass on the grounds of racial discrimination btw :)
t. HUD

GEE WHO WOULDA THOUGHT

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i dont care about any of that i only want lower taxes and higher wages for hard labor workers, i was starting to think thats what the left was fighting for
though i used to think thats what the right fought for. im confused as fuck

>Give me freedom from foreigner intruders aka immigrants and i'll believe that.
The country is the property of the citizens. Property rights are protected in a free market.
Mass immigration is against liberty.
Send them back.

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Blame moralfags and internet political activists shitting everything up.

depends, Americans are nigger people that are more worried about the individual than they are the collective, which is inhernetly incompatible with the concept of a workers union, it's only a matter of course it would become corrupted

>Just used car dealers, who are really only out for my money not me.

That's pretty much anyone who ever sold something ever. It doesn't have to be used cars. People just want to make money.

> They want to give me overpriced trash to lease it away with because that makes me overpay for shit.

Yes because that's how they maximize their profits. And that's why you should do your own research. Look for the best value for your buck and there are even used car dealers that give you a guaranteed warranty if anything is wrong, they will fix it.

Shit is capitalism. People are here to make money. Don't just pick the first car dealer you come across. Do research, find best value for your buck. The same goes for any fucking thing you buy. It doesn't have to be cars.

> If you've never had to deal with used car industry then goid for you.

My first car was a used Mitsubishi Eclipse 2006. Loved it. Got rid of it eventually but used it for like a good 8 years before getting rid of it for new shit.

> If you do then co e to the table knowing they will try to fuck you, because you get fucked if it's possible.

You're paranoid about everything. Everyone is always trying to get the best value for themselves. You're not a exception. Like I said, you do your research, find a dealer that gives x month guarantee. In fact, buy one from a repair shop, they usually are the decent ones that give guarantees of your car working for at least 6 months and will repair if anything is wrong. If they say it only sells "AS IS"... you may want to avoid those.

You would to if you worked in a couple of them

We are the saviours of the world you troglodyte

>Work retail a few years back
>Unloading trucks and other stuck etc back work mostly
>See countless people fired for going slightly below productivity requirements even when some are old/women
>Meanwhile sheboons/customer service made 1-2 dollars more starting out barely worked fucked around walking around constantly

Working for soulless shit drained the fuck out of me. Its just nonsense and well capitalism is better then any other current existing structure to me modern American "capitalism" is complete nonsense and the people unwilling to clip its wings are all the Ben Shapiro level gross weak jews who are afraid it might lead to them falling out of the top percentages otherwise.

Wow this is why we need to raise taxes on the middle class

>Nobody is gonna sell you something if they can't make money

no shit, the problem is companies colluding to fix prices higher than they should be. Just look at the fiasco the IP and phone companies are causing, they are working their hardest to keep data caps and exorbitant prices so the consumer suffers. In an ideal competitive capitalist world like you imagine from your first semester of business 101, a company would take huge advantage of unlimited data caps and corner the market, but lo and behold these companies all have extremely similar prices that handcuff the consumer and ironically crush out any options they have

>they will lower the price so their cars can sell over their competitors

wow exactly the same phrase i read in my 8th grade textbook that i was complaining about you retards repeating ad infinitum. I know you'd like to assume the entire world fits in the vacuum of that one supply/demand graph you saw when you were 12, but there's insane amounts of lobbying, collusion, tax evasion etc. etc. that completely throw that shit out the window

Trump BARELY cut taxes.
He also dramatically raised spending, which fucks over the economy and jobs more than tax cuts do.
Reagan did the same thing.
What we need is an actual free market, with no central bank, so real wages can actually rise.

>i dont care about any of that i only want lower taxes and higher wages for hard labor workers,
Then you should support economic freedom.

>i was starting to think thats what the left was fighting for
They're not.
You should become a libertarian.

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Christbol gang assemble.

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>live in texas
>texas law requires employer to apply union benefits to all employees even if they choose not to join the union
thanks for the paid vacation weeks and dirt cheap insurance, faggots! now chop chop and pay your dues, I've almost worked enough to get another paid vacation week

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God dammit the media lied to me again, they told me mafias were cool and edgy. But apparently, they're nothing but pencil pushing faggots who just want to save a buck or two

too bad moot was too much of a retarded newfag to properly issue a blanket ban on politics like other forums were doing at that time

I only got $12 more bi-weekly after that retarded tax cut

Reagan should really be dug up and pissed on for starting this shit

Tons of people with more money in their pocket and deductibles for kids.
Only people who got fucked were SALT abusing Californians betting on property deals worth over 1.3 mil the year the taxes went into effect.
>b-but cropped headlines say studies show
Brainlet.

wtf is christbol, these meme ideologies are getting out of hand

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>2019
>still trusting journalists

Yea like how that all said Hiliary had a 99% chance to win.
Or like Trump was really colluding with Russia for 2 fucking years and then the Muller report came out saying there wasn't any collusion.

Most news journalists are full of shit, including CNN. They are still living the 2016 election where Hiliary lost so they try to smear Trump in any way they can.

Why are public sector unions legal?
>Have an enforced monopoly on a market
>Leech money from employees
>Send money to politicians for favors
>Politicians raise taxes so unions can get paid more
>You're contributing to the election campaigns of select politicians whether you like it or not, regardless if you're a state worker or just a taxpayer

>UNIONS BAD

We don't have capitalism in america, stupid.

>>Meanwhile sheboons/customer service made 1-2 dollars more starting out barely worked fucked around walking around constantly
This is affirmative action.>Just look at the fiasco the IP and phone companies are causing, they are working their hardest to keep data caps and exorbitant prices so the consumer suffers
This is the result of government intervention which gives these companies a monopoly.
If we allowed competition, they would be forced to compete.
Too bad liberals and leftists(and republicans) are against allowing competition.
wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-just-cable-companies-and-blame-local-government-for-dismal-broadband-competition/

tick tock jew
70%

Do you live in Alabama or Tennessee?

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Only Hoppe-tier Libertarians hold that view, all other Liberals are identical to leftists in their love for mass-immigration/hate of working class people.

Well, yeah. A poorfag only needs to care about his next meal, loan payment, and rent. Most people don't have any control over the market or its dealings behind the curtain. Most people don't give a damn until they see their money start dipping. Face it, the poor are all pampered by socialist policies which guarantees food and shelter, paid by, guess what? THE RICH.

I don't understand why you people want to be poor and enslaved.

>Finnish bus stop.jpg
why are they standing like that? I don't get it

>Then you should support economic freedom.
but unions promise me more money,and more taxes but its a start. all non union jobs i try to have want to "try me out" at minimum wage for a month before drip feeding me dollar raises or even offer me "unpaid internship" and other jewish shit. why the fuck would i, as a worker, want that?

Almost no one who is a CEO at big corporations is the original CEO anymore. Take Walmart for example Sam Walton I believe his name is originally made sure his employees were paid decently and treated like a family.

Fast forward and its literal slave work with people who only see the employees as a statistic. They upped their pay or some shit to 11 over the minimum but raised vacation build up 3x and don't off holiday pay. I see nothing wrong with fucking with people who literally built nothing and want to bleed shit dry because they come into shit with a mindset where they're immoral pigs who were spoon fed shit. That being said don't work for those companies or try not to and if you do do be a cashier or some easy as shit because truck work for shit companies is stressful as fuck.