Tales of ARISE

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Magilou mod when?

Wait did she say you're my husband? Are they married?

>Blonde
Literally Velvet and Magilou combined

no I think he doesn't know his name so she gave one to him

No I just checked. His name is "Dana". Really close to "danna" which is husband.

So the name she gave to him, right? Why am I wrong

GAMERS RISE UP

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Who is her seiyuu?

I'm not sure about the decision of having very stylized animu characters and realistic environments

Well after checking again, Dana and Rena are name of countries. Their actual names are Alfin and Shion.

Shino Shimoji

>A man who has lost his memory and his capability to feel pain.

>A girl who brings about a curse of thorns to those who touch her.

It will be my second Tales of since I started this series on the Xbox and they never released another one there so I'm pretty hyped, yeah.

Isnt today Tale Fest??

SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOLE

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Yeah you can search the archives for the other announcements

I've never played a Tales game because I thought they looked tacky, but this will be my first.

Any thing cool announced?

So reading this it says that the dude lost his memory and ability to feel pain and the girl is cursed to inflict intense pain to everyone she touches.

A match made in heaven.

Tales of Vesperia for PC :^)

SideM collab for Astera iirc and Rays gets Duke this month

Looks bretty gud mate.
Now I wanna play some Tales of vidya.
Which one do you Yea Forumsros think would be the best to start playing, eh?

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Tales of Phantasia

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Vesperia remake

xillia 2

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I fucking love girls in battle gowns and I will buy this game.

That is clearly Krato's VA/Fumihiko Tachiki at 0:43.

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So this is going to be xbone exclusive? How did microsoft manage that?

Looking forward to it.
Tales of needed a reboot after releasing the same copy pasted game for the last 12 years or so.

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Nigga, did you watch the trailer
It's multiplat

no it's not

Oh shit im retarded, some user said so in a thread last week and I only just now googled it. Nevermind, I am hype.

That pale blonde hair looks much better than the retarded animu pink. Why the fuck they had to ruin a good design?

No
They only revealed it
It literally says PS4/XBOX/STEAM on the video you dumdum

So how are her chances of surviving?

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Tales' graphic that doesn't look like shit? Wow.

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How often does she shower though?

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>Belts on his feet and arms
Oh no no no. From the trailer it looked like he had none.

I don't see GotY in Arise. All I see is a mistake.

I really like their designs.

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At least the male protag looks like an actual warrior rather than a teenager and his friends.

>All I see is a mistake.
Yeah that's what your parents say when you're not around.

Why do magic rifle need bullets?

Used to attach armor

>Patrician Taste
Mah nigga

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Cool Artorias aesthetic,also I can't unsee the womb tattoo design for the girl's armor but she is very handsome and her voice actor is great. Honestly I can't believe I'm starting to get excited about a new Tales game dropping it feels good man.

Magic bullets.

Magic must defeat magic.

how can they see him when he's not around

The monsters this time around also look a lot more like monsters and less cute.

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They make sense though. Never seen couter armor or any medieval type armor?

Pantsu

>trying to get the thancred audience

I love the rifle maiden archetype.

How many belts does he have?

Baba is you.

Mythra

Oh my.

Here they are combined again.

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nice

Have you seen this man?

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Censor!

>Cool main characters, probably a love story, actual effort put into the game part of the game

Genuinely excited for this one

TIME TO FLY

Xillia on Steam when.

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Not having any voice acting in their E3 reveal trailer was such a smart decision, why hasn't anyone figured this out before?
JRPG dialogue is just so cringey on a big stage, just look at the Fire Emblem segment, they should have done what Bamco did instead.
Game looks good though, I'm interested.

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The dudes seiyuu is Takuya Satou.
Kanda from D.Gray Man.

Not saying you were doing this but I've been seeing a lot of people screeching after Microsoft's conference that they're cunts for making all these games exclusive (even though they're not) when I know for a fact they praise Sony for doing the same thing. Console warring is honest to god retarded at this point.

She's 50 years old

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Bring back Xillia 2's modern setting.

I want to see characters with smartphones!

Last seen on another sinking ship.

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I want to marry this smug witch

Why does the sword come out of her titties? What's the lore here

Will we actually get a love story this time or yet another piece of blueballing and fujo pandering?

Is she like a fantasy version of Ushijima? A MILF that looks like a loli?

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Might get me banned mods are weird but have another one

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Not like anyone cares, but Crestoria also got a new PV.
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I hope it has reasonable drop rates for equipment. I'm playing Berseria and the constant shower of shitty armor and weapons that I have to sell or dismantle is driving me batty.

You won't get banned for SFW pics, don't sweat it.

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You'll get an implied love story.

>The composer is still a secret, but will be introduced at a later time. We will have a theme song.
so its definitely not sakuraba then?

This actually looks like some effort is put in.

You can just leave them be, your inventory has no limit. You'd need to cycle through all possible gear on each character till they master it, so you need to carry a lot of items anyway.

this is the best looking game i have ever seen

I never had a waifu until I played Berseria and met Magilou

These are the seiyuus.
Say something nice about them.

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Looks actually pretty good for a mobage
No release date yet right?
I should give it a try

>The protagonist’s armor and helmet are equipped due to his physical features. It should be noted that he has more than just his armor outfit, and will change to various costumes according to the situation.
i like this game already

BLUEBALLING

Is there a single Tales game with actual romance? At least between the two lead characters? It's kinda weird to have a chad MC and an obvious tsundere female lead that's following him everywhere, but still nothing happens. It's unrealistic.

>inb4 that's how shounen tropes are

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It's gonna be Motoi Sakuraba!

I want new girl to step on m,e

Thank you jesus

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There is, you even play their son in the sequel.

Abyss almost, but they don't confess until the very end

Abyss.

>Is there a single Tales game with actual romance?
Destiny
Destiny 2
Symphonia 2
Rebirth
Hearts/Hearts R

No I know the left guy is the producer. He used to be the producer of God Eater.

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Abyss, Graces, Rebirth, Hearts, Destiny

Being a Pokefag is suffering, some companies go through ups and downs (like Rose's and Baba's issue for Tales) but GF is spiralling downwards forever hence.

compare to kek!

That's how it is in recent Tales games. Armor/gear isn't displayed on characters, they have unique outfits instead, they change them depending on story events, and you also unlock extra ones via sidequests and DLC and can play dress up at anytime.

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>already confirmed for PC
BASED

Zestiria came so close, but still blueballed you anyway.

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I can't wait for new Tales but it has 0 chance of winning even a single GOTY award next to FF7 Remake, Last of Us 2 and Cyberpunk 2077. Not to mention tons of quality games like Ori, VBTM2 or Halo Infinite

Same, especially their outfits. I love the series but goddamn that was 20+ years of shitty costume design from both the artists.

Greaves usually do have belts there. If you have to complain about something complain about his torso cuirass being too long to be mobile.

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there's like 1 outfit unlocked by midgame and the rest are like ng+ shit from ridiculous titles and dlc

>quality games like VBTM2

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>I can't wait for new Tales but it has 0 chance of winning even a single GOTY award
That's a good thing though.

Where are you getting this from?

i hope there's an unskippable cutscene every time you go to an inn where the mc has to take off his armor and put it on again in the morning

aestheticc

There's no way this doesn't run like complete ass on consoles

Ehh I dunno about that. It's good to innovate, but this looks nothing like a Tales game. Might as well be a new IP. Core elements of the franchise should always remain so it's recognizable and brings him as many fans as possible. Simple things like sound effects, enemy designs or battle systems go a long way if they remain but get polished.

It's impossible to put on that armor on your own. He would need help.

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mostly pr talk but there's some useful info here and there

While this is true for earlier designs, later designs used rivets to lock seamlessly onto each other instead.

Is it available only on Steam for PC version?

Seems about as much of a leap from berseria as xillia was from graces

Those special attacks are chuuni as hell
I like it

it will go from shionne awkwardly helping him to all the characters helping him later on and shortening the time it takes to put on
hire me bamco

They are really taking the game seriously for once instead of another yearly cashgrab.
Why the change of mind after so many low budget looking games, did Berseria sold that much that made them rethink their strategy?

Wait
Alphen cannot feel pain while Shionne gives pain to anyone she touches

Imagine the doujins

I've not played any of the other Tales of games. Which one would you recommend if any?

>protagonist is brown-ish
Can't wait for /pol/ bait postings.

Is the combat going to be the same weird instanced shit where you run into an enemy and POOF, your party and more enemies spawn out of thin air? If it's an ARPG just make it more like Dragon's Dogma.

I said usually. And Milanese armors still had some exposed belts in later designs.

Thanks.

berseria sold way less than zestiria

Because no Baba

Going from the trailers no, it will just be seamless.
Still not confirmed though.

I mean he is a slave so it makes sense.

Pick any on Steam. Most people would probably recommend you either Vesperia of Berseria.

Play Berseria, it's the latest and most polished ones, don't listen to nostalgia fags recommending stuff like Symphonia or Vesperia. After you're done with Berseria feel free to try earlier games.

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>and most polished ones
why would you spread such lies

The most polished turd alright.

Could be either way.
Hard to judge from the trailers, but I think the camera angle switches into more of a sideways view during battle.
When running on the overworld it's mostly behind the player.

>playing tales after berseria
Every game would feel far worse after that.

Rebirth didn't really. They had big parallels to the sideplot romance of the game(that still didn't end up together)but Veigue was imoutozoning Claire up to the end and Claire was too busy being kidnapped the whole game for actual romantic development to happen.

Xillia 1 and 2 are still my favourite Tales games, followed by Graces. Dont you me with your shit taste

This tbqfhwy

I can't tell if everyone having different top 3 tales is a positive or negative point to the quality of the series or if every CC game fan is a genuine retard

>It’s still a secret, but there is something like a mascot in this game.
There better not be any Katz or Turtlez in this game

Nothing bad with those, the Xillia duology is fine despite being rushed and Graces was the only game that did the non LMBS system right, pretty great bosses too.

Kinda wished she had a different hair color though.

You could still play Zestiria (IMO it's way more bearable after Berseria since you're already invested in the world/characters) to conclude the story and then the Xillia games are about on par as well.

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Skin color is the least of differences between races. It was by sheer coincidencial luck that the races best to avoid were given such a distinct visual marker. Jews avoided it with the shapeshift perk.

When jrpg characters have darker skin they're just Okinawan

Yeah, i double that gentleman, still not finish berseria but it good. Play eternia and it was boooring, played abyss - it was alright (plot is super cool and deep) but still boooring sometimes. Berseria is alright and fun, story and characters are interesting.

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Goodness i want to plow Rita's small (but soft) smelly tushy!

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It's kind of an anime trope to have male characters be darker skinned than the girls. Just look at Zestiria

Will the gameplay be as boring as Berseria's, though?

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So it seems they are going for more serious tone just like Berseria.

Would you consider Repede as a mascot character?
I don't mind literal animals as player characters.
Watching Repede climbing ladders was pretty disturbing, though.

I reckon its great.
Hair and skin being a similar color is underrated imo
Reminds me of Kuro.

Yes, but most of them aren't playable.
It'll probably be either a partner of some character or a replacement for the mana ring.

Abyss was serious too though.

They actually look fucking great.

The music is great cant wait for it to drop.
I think we missed one of the pre reg rewards though

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>>A man who has lost his memory and his capability to feel pain.
>>A girl who brings about a curse of thorns to those who touch her.
Then how would they recruit other companions though?

Zestiria is not that bad.

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Edgy

>delishious brown in concept art
>barely tan in ingame model
I fucking hate when they do this

What's with this dude and ripped clothes?

It's not hard to find people just as damaged as they are.
Maybe there's a girl like that one konosuba who loves pain and constantly wants to be touched by shionne.

Oh fuck off they're actually functional belts.
We haven't seen a Protag design not as anime since Ludger. This guy looks like a proper Knight. Although its too bad about the stupid fucking facemask half shit he has going for him.

All she has to do is not touch them.

Baba probably considering suicide right now.

I just can't comprehend what would bring someone who actively hates anything "anime" to have any interest in this series

The only two tolerable characters

Hoping they'll bring back magic-counter mechanic. Spammimg Force Detonator as Magilou was fun as fuck.

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He lost his tan when he started wearing the mask.

How do I Magilou? Only character I don't really get, my damage output is pathetic.

SPERU ABUZOOBAA
SPERU ABUZOOBAA
SPERU ABUZOOBAA

Edna was cool too.

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DEMON FANG

Okay I guess I'am being too broad with the term. its also because I've grown tired of how Baba basically turned the series into weeb shit when he was incharge.

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>they ignore it altogether and have scenes of him lying in an inn, in full armor, sleeping

we can all lie to ourselves thinking they'll add some semblance of realism, but end of the day, despite the japanese penchant for overworking themselves to death, they're just gonna be lazy about it and said "fuck it"

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>weeb
You're not using that word correctly.

>sleeping in full armor
Hated this when it happened with Alisha in Zestiria's prologue, dumb as fuck

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>DUDE RIPPED CLOTHES KAKKOII

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Use the spin and jump attacks to stun everything. I think Final Embrace has a guaranteed stun.

Depends what you're up against.
Generally though, you gotta have a surplus of SG
Her non-casted 'melee' attacks which apply CC are quite useful. Especially the divebomb one.

You need to be up against enemies which cast frequently to get the most out of her.

>I've grown tired of how Baba basically turned the series into weeb shit
I truly hate how you mouthbreathers use words you don't know the meaning of.

No since its UE4 it will exclusive to Epic Games :)
China is the future, guailo.

Who's the artist? Okumura or someone new? It's not Fujishima or Inomata.

Nah he's pretty brown ingame too

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>0 belts
>literally has a belt on his leg
and the first guy has 10 belts, not 4

Looks great

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Are they really trying to pander to the western audience?

>While there is also the idea that some female players might not like it if we make the enemies too scary, it is nevertheless important for RPG battles to evoke a sense of accomplishment when defeating an enemy.
Can you imagine a western dev saying this? lmao

it's a pouch i think

Vesperia, Xillia 2 and Zestiria had the least cringey looking protags IMO.

Western is the future

Looks good here. It's just the very first shots of him looked like this so I wasn't sure. But it was just unfortunate lighting probably

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Nah, there's a pantsu shot in the trailers and the heroine is female. If they were pandering to the west she would be trans and fat.

More like they're making it progressively less shounen, just look at the pic in . People are growing up and don't want the same kiddy bullshit over and over again.

Both look piss off and i like the designs. Promising at the very least.

Because it's common in Japs, their women are noticeably paler than their men often times.

I revel the idea of JRPGs turning normies into fujos

Purely western games are sjw shit. Purely nip games are cringey shit.
Only games that try to take the best of two worlds are worth anything.

Minoru Iwamoto, who also designed Zaveid and Edna from Tales of Zestiria and Eizen and Laphicet from Tales of Berseria

>their women are noticeably paler than their men often times
That's only because of skin bleaching creams and using parasols on sunny days etc. Same goes for China and Korea.

This is probably the wrong thread for you, teenager.

Well one of your protagonists is a snooty noblewoman and the other is a literal slave, guess who probably got more sun?

>guess who probably got more sun
I'd say the one that's not in a full body armor and helmet.

bb cream papapa

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Doubt they had the armor on for manual labor and they're not going to give him tanlines for the helmet.

>New engine
>New producer
>New director
>New composer
>Confirmed for PC

What's not to fucking love?

SFM WHEN ?????????????

youtube.com/watch?v=3qSoLwky5Gw

Go Shiina RISE UP

>new engine

Sadly its using unreal 4 though

Probably, trailers mention steam and not pc

Please be Go Shiina or Yasunori Mitsuda. Shiina already blew socks off in Zesty and I think the latters music would go quite well with this artstyle.

Gameplay and it being empty open world are my only worries.

They don't know how to write serious stories, though, Berseria's one was absolute garbage and so was Zestiria, I really hope this isn't more of a decaying world, because they just don't know how to do it.

And? And so fucking what? You want their old engine? Fuck that shit.

god i love lloyd's design

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probably a pipe dream but i want yoshitaka suzuki

UE4 is great.

Guys, if the composer is Go Shiina then the game will be bad.

I give it 2 days after pc demo/release

Unreal 4 gives off this plastic like aesthetic with horrible baked lighting. Almost every game made with it has this generic look to it especially when it comes to the environments. It also doesn't translate well for anime type of games.

Berseria's was one of the few good one though

Is this going to be as trash as Vesperia? I got bored of it 30 hours in and can't even bother to boot it up again.

I will kill myself is Sakuraba does the music again

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although the boss fight itself was a bit underwhelming, it felt great having an insert song like this playing

Will she get the D?

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That's only if the development team uses UE4 build in lighting

Making Go Shiina a composer would doom the game. Don't you know, he is cursed

if they were, it wouldnt have an anime style

Sakuraba is great, they just need to stop telling him to keep doing the same tracks over and over.

very generic. still follow the zestiria and berseria which is meh. gonna need to see some real gameplay before i make a final call.

I'm sad this is just a mobile game. Also are they done announcing Arise shit or will their be more? I'm sure Talesfest has another day or two left in it.

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2 more days for the fest, so we can expect some gameplay hopefully or even a new character reveal?

They worked on a lot of custom shaders, lighting and effects according to the famitsu interview.

Fuck no.
>ahh I hate the shepherd
>rest of the group doesn't care much
>ahh I hate the shepherd
>time travel shows he isn't that terrible of a person
>ahh I still hate him
>I killed him
>asspull super dragon kid to make her decision not terrible
Fucking nauseating terrible. Never again.

That's not what it is, it's just that the standards for anime designs have changed. Go back to the 90s and the medium was full of designs like Cless and Stahn.

Nah I'm sure that will be it.
You can expect the next character reveal in the viva tales magazine.

WAS THE COFFEE HOT OR COLD????

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I got the inside scoop. There's a reason why they made a "kinda big deal" in saying why the composer is a secret.

It's Keiki Kobayashi.

Thats actually a relief, if they only used unreal as a base and did a lot of custom work then it will probably turn out good then. I am just so used to most developers being lazy.

someone better give him the hot or cold or else I'm not buying it

Isn't this the first time we have brown protag in tales?

Yes

Okay but when is it coming to switch

it was empty

>time travel shows he isn't that terrible of a person
>Goal is to wipe out all free will
I will never fucking understand people who defend Artorius. Like, are you so braindead you didn't catch what it's like to have no free will? You're just be a robot enslaved under his will. Do you want to be a fucking robot?

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Legendia

I want to add milk in his coffee

And the fact that this is still better than Zesteria makes me wonder why the fuck do people still bother with this shitstain of a franchise.

stahn, but it's probably a tan since my beautiful wife lilith is pale

IT'S SHIT BECAUSE THEY'LL REMOVE CO-OP

He uses Flamberge so logically, the coffee is hot.

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Legendia, Rebirth and Eternis to extent

>From planet Dahna. A young man who wears an iron mask and lost both pain and memory. Sparked by his encounter with Shionne, he takes the “Sword of Flame” in hand and throws himself into battle for the freedom of Rena.
They're not even trying now

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i haven't played the latest ace combat
is the music good?

Artorius was just suffering, man. Have some pity on him. All he needed was someone to just sit him down and slap him. Hell, if he'd gone to velvet to talk to her instead of Laphicet, the entire fucking plot couldve been avoided

And the people attacking him forget that everyone in the world is becoming demons including the mc's party is basically only demons.
The BIGGEST plothole in berseria, though, is why some demons are just reasonable people while the other 99% are just random monsters. It's stupid, of course people won't think that a world where everyone is demon is bad when the main party just act like the average JRPG party although they're consumed by the plague.

Are you fucking stupid?

don't know, don't care

Just wait for the plot twist.

It's fucking amazing.

reid is definitely not pale at least

HOW CAN PEOPLE DEFEND THIS OH NONONONO

That's presuming quite a bit about a man as hardheaded and strongwilled as Artorius. There's no indication he could've been swayed from evil.
>Everyone
Not everyone, it's just an issue going around. Something that could've been solved by beating up Inominat instead of, you know, destroying everything that makes being human worthwhile.

>Following up on the official reveal of Tales of Arise at E3 2019, Bandai Namco has shown a new version of the trailer at Tales of Festival 2019 held today in Yokohama, Japan. This trailer adds Japanese voices and confirms that the names of the title's protagonist and heroine are Alphen and Shionne respectively.

People transform into demons when their emotions overwhelm them. Immediately when transformed, they freak out and kill shit. Velvet is a good example of this when she became a demon.
However, they can calm down and become more rational. The fact that there were wild demons roaming around like ferals and not banding together is the weirdest part in Berseria's setting and makes absolutely no sense because they are still fucking humans

>yeah let's just uh beat the god thing
based weeb logic. Worse thing is that it works in the game so why not think of it as a reasonable choice?
That's what makes berseria absolute garbage.

People who play Tales have no friends or spouses anyway

>removing co-op
please no

I play through every tales with my bros

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A lot of demons are just animals that were affected by the miasma, same as zestiria

i want to play it but my backlog is too big right now
im currently playing vesperia and grinding way too much for weapon skills
got dmc5 for free so i feel like i need to play that afterwards too

Nothing shows that it's only immediately after transforming. Like the one who killed the paladin girl who's name I forgot's mother was still just a ogre after years having done that.
The whole demon business makes no sense. It just arbitraly have some that calm down and others who stay forever as demon, but the ones who calmed down(everyone in the main party) aren't really that good people to start with so you can't say they had some good in them.

I think those who answered Rebirth probably refer to Milhaust and Agarte but I’m not sure.

reminder its being made to appeal to a western audience

>Muh weebs
Nigger you're playing a JRPG, it you wanna bitch about 'weebs' and 'weeb logic' then this is the wrong place for you. Not that any western media would have you side with Artorius either, of course.

If I pull that mask off, will he die?

Give up your free will now, user. Prove the righteousness of your path.

Nah, the actual most glaring plothole was why would Shigure and Melchior come to the volcano out of their own will to be sacrificed by Velvet on the crimson night? They could just wait it out holed up somewhere and ruin her only chance at dispelling Innominat's domain. This irked me a lot.

I hope we can complete the mask and just hide his face.

>That's presuming quite a bit about a man as hardheaded and strongwilled as Artorius
Not really. The thing is that even he was unsure about his plan, and went to talk to Laphicet. He went ahead with his absolutely bullshit plot because he, a mentally damaged nutjob with a hero complex and a five year old who thought he knew better about the world than anyone else is thy all of that shit happened
Agreed. Doesnt change the fact that there are no organized demons, and the fact that demons are killed on sight, rather than imprisoned
The changes seem to be physical. After their mental state becomes rational (which does happen a fucking lot) they can even fucking communicate
And yet they roam the countryside like bloodthirsty animals. Fucking why

I'm saying something as retarded as "just beat god lmao" should never be taken as a serious idea.
Just because it worked thanks to a hundred asspulls doesn't mean it's the right decision to make in any way or form.

Between everyone turning into demons and losing free will, atleast in the path of free will perhaps in a far future there would be any chance.

Then user, what do you propose for Velvet to do? She doesn't know shit until it's too late, Artorius wasn't going to stop once he'd turned her into a demon and killed Laphicet as a host for the evil dick seraph.

>Everyone
Yeah still you overselling the problem.

This. Tell him to go End of Eternity on it.
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>I'm saying something as retarded as "just beat god lmao" should never be taken as a serious idea.
You're reinforcing my point that JRPGs aren't meant for you, user. Especially not something as cliche as Tales. Go play your brown and bloom shooters.

He lost his touch years ago
I can only remember like 5 good themes from Berseria

this is literally the same fucking shit
he can take his garbage midi instruments and shove them up his ass

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That's the plot, slowly but surely, it's what's happening, and most monsters are so strong you can't kill without being a demon yourself.
I said they need to stick to simple plots without trying to do a world that's going to shit, tales of phantasia was fine, just beat the big bad and call it a day, so was most of those.

yeah man we need full orchestral soundtracks like DQ11

>I said they need to stick to simple plots without trying to do a world that's going to shit, tales of phantasia was fine
You mean the plot about the world going to shit and dying because the mana tree is dead thanks to mana superweapons and a butthurt god-like alien?

>DQ11
funny
it doesn't need to be full orchestra but they could at least use live instruments in current year

>god-like
Just because he got wings in one of his forms doesn't mean he wasn't just a butthurt alien.
And the solution for their issue was simple.

The solution to Daos was more complicated than the one to Inominat. They solved Inominat by shanking him and sealing him. They solved Daos by shanking him, giving him a mana seed to fix his planet, getting people to stop using mana superweapons, and healing the mana tree.

It actually looks pretty nice and will probably be the first Tales game I play since symphonia.

It sounds simpler when you don't mention all the asspulls necessary to "defeat Illuminat and seal him".
Daos was just a strong dude who had already been beaten once, the rest was to tell people around the world to stop killing the ecosystem.

They seemed to retain some of their humanity if one particlar motivation or emotion was strong enough. Overcoming the constant stress of combat situations might also give them some resistance to the onset of the blight

I played DQ11 with no fucking music except for boss fights.

It's simple because the solution is simple, there's one issue and they take care of it, whereas Phantasia has several problems going on concurrently. Face it senpai, you're just mad they killed a god-like entity which has been done in Tales several times and is a staple in JRPGs in general.

I figured that having the party inserting the sibling's souls was a bad enough wrench in their plans

You're forgetting, also, that simply beating Illuminat didn't really fix shit.
Demons are still around, only shit that change is that it isn't overflowing.

The game's plot isn't to stop the demons, it's to stop Artorius and Inominat destroying free will.

Velvet and her gang of misfits decide to gather four pure souls to resurrect the Empyreans. And in order to do so they need to be at a specific point at a specific day. So they go to the spot and scare away the people living there. She also tells the panicking public to let the Abbey know that they're there in a bid to lure the last to Praetors there for her to kill before her time window closes.

Okay, so putting aside how freaking desperate of a plan that this is, and all the things that could go have gone wrong, like the Abbey sending a crapload of foot soldiers instead of the two Praetors she needed, or the chance that they could take too long to get the message and make the trip, the Abbey certainly seems to have dropped a digit or so of their IQ.

1) It was obviously a trap. This was so far from Velvet's MO that it wasn't even funny. So why the hell would they take such obvious bait? Especially since...

2) Innominat seemed to be going ahead with his plan without Velvet. It would probably be incomplete or whatever, but he clearly made up his mind to deal with it. I don't even think he had a choice, since Velvet was now all out of despair. Why send your two toughest guys away to such an obvious trap when you seem to have a guaranteed victory with or without the person you're risking everything for. And while he may not have known what exactly Velvet was planning...

3) Melchior DOES find out what exactly Velvet is planning. At this point, why not just leave? He could literally walk away, or at least bide his time to the point that it no longer mattered if Velvet beat him, then Innominat wins. Instead he fights them head on, two feet from where the sacrifice needs to be made, right before she needs to make it. Why? Even if he did win, it's not like he could haul Velvet back to Innominat before the Scarlet Night ended. There was nothing in it for any of them.

It's like Velvet needed everything to go right, and the Abbey was happy to ensure that it did.

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I'm still playing Tales of Vesperia.

>Estelle boss fight makes me fight alone with Yuri and she only needs about two or three hits to kill me

What the fuck, BAMCO?

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Velvet and co aren't hero, they weren't trying to solve everything

Man, I am shocked that a videogame doesn't have the best writing.

>he fights them head on, two feet from where the sacrifice needs to be made, right before she needs to make it
Typical JRPG plot. Don't play it for the story, play it for the character interactions.

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>we want the Dark Souls 3 audience
I was just going to shitpost but now that I think about it there might be something more to it.

Clearly you ain't been building your shit right.
At that point, even playing on hard on a first playthrough, Estelle was a pushover. You got her mothers memento right?

It's REALLY dumb. The only explanation for the villains being idiots is overconfidence which is pretty much the lamest way to have the heroes win especially when you consider their way of thinking is supposed to be logical. They could have easily just waited one day and then fought them. Velvet and crew would be officially screwed at that point.

In that case yeah I guess it counts. It's worth mentioning the two are still never a couple at any point though.

IM A GONER

>has two swords but only uses one

one for humans, one for monsters

Will there be a single song that can surpass this ?
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Berseria goes to shit after Artorius becomes an actual villain, it so sudden and makes me think on Duke which was also an awful "villain" material
He should have stayed as the good guy while Velvet gang stayed as the bad one

would you rather have a pathetically easy duel like lloyd vs kratos?

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They were overconfident but don't forget that they aren't "villains" either
Shigure just wanted a good fight, he had no reason to postpone it.

And even if Melchior wasn't there Velvet would have tried with only 3 souls or heck, could have found someone else.
If you think like Melchior, even Eleanor or Magilou would have been a good substitute
It was the only place he could stop them

>I'm saying something as retarded as "just beat god lmao" should never be taken as a serious idea.
t. christfag

Don't compare Artorius to fucking Duke

Who's the monkey? Just some oppressed Dana on a train you save?

they already have code vein and they're publishing souls games

So is this the initial character art doomed to be replaced by the homogenized mobile garbage or is Namco sticking with it?

Looking at the lady really does drive home how much the characters looks the same and it's everything else that is different.

Man, I don't remember Zesteria well enough to speculate how they could have worked as a couple, beyond Rose's straight talk probably being funny to watch ("So what Sorey is actually saying is that you done fucked up.")

Very hard to make it sound good without context, yeah. I agree.

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He using both in trailer and lmao2kat is for faggot.

youtube.com/watch?v=JVjZ8CeP4KM
best song isn't even on the soundtrack
fucking go shiina

I assume he's not human but the same species as that big fiery demon and the mask merely stops him from transforming back.

Literally the main guy,presumably when he's still a slave.

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>Eliminating free will should be good

how else he's gonna do "DOUBLE DEMON FANG"

>muh free will when everyone is turning into monster because their will is evil

>Everyone
There's that word again.

>it's not literally everyone yet so It isn't right to say that
It's okay, as the actual demons would continue to kill the rest of the non-demons one, it would eventually be.

Bitch, please.
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damn, he must be a genius

I've never played a Tales game partly because the character designs look weird to me but these two are actually pretty good. The costumes are detailed and distinct but not too out there and they have a relatively tame color scheme as well. I sure hope that extends to the other characters too.

this game is too edgy, wheres the loli party member?

Your argument is akin to saying 'people are getting ebola, let me team up with the ebola monster to kill everyone before a few more people get ebola!'

>mfw finally read Raven's manga because an user pointed me on one of the last threads in Yea Forums
>Alexei's motivation actually makes more fucking sense now

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>super angry looking generic MCs
>people in this board are having a positive reaction

fuck you, you ruined tales

He'll go demon fang with one sword, send out a 2nd (double) demon with the other and send out a 3rd with both for a triple demon fang, with an x-slash of course.

Artorius is literally against evolution.
Once all the humans are wiped out only the strong remain. Demons are our future.

That's more akin to dispelling the source of ebola which is connected to people's wills.
Which isn't the same thing.
>hurr taking free will is the same as killing
I wish your free will was taken

You didn't need Raybun's manga to know that.

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>We want the Granblue Fantasy audience

I mean they did get a collab.

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Destiny is the only game in the series where the protags are 100% confirmed to hook up, kid and all. You would think Asbel and Cheria are confirmed too since that's obviously their kid at the end of the game but it's still just implied and people would rather put Asbel together with Richard anyway. I wish the current market wasn't most profitable by making any romance vague for fujos and waifu losers fantasies; they don't have to get married like Stahn and Rutee but it'd be nice if they got the same level of conformation I guess.
These are all solid choices, though you pro sbkt should play Xillia 1 before 2 just to know the characters and I also recommend Graces because I think it's fun. Avoid Zestiria (until you have decided you like the series enough to maybe try putting up with it).
>Benwick and Karia are now protags

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No, the source here is from the evil seraphim in another dimension, and it's Inominat who is making it intolerably bad. We know for a fact that once he's punked it's at manageable levels considering humans survive and thrive for centuries into the future. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water to effectively genocide humanity by working with the create that's making it so bad in the first place.
>T-taking away free will is okay!
Then do it to yourself, turn into a robotic drone for someone.

You mean the dark souls audience
Sieg is an Artorias ripoff

Just cheese it with whatever the not-demon fang move was called, it's the safest way of doing this shit since she can just break out your combo whenever the fuck she wants.

What the fuck are people talking about? Velvet needed to kill the other two fags and Artorius needed Inominat to succ on Velvet's despair. That's why they had to fight at the mountain, besides it's not like Shigure was gonna actually listen to Art this time so that's three souls with three empyrians awakening and deciding to go against your saviour ass. Velvet was pressed for time but it's not like the Abbey had it in the bag either.

stahn looks like a million dollars dressed like that

>actually following that god awful story in berseria
just kill the bad guys and be happy

>>hurr taking free will is the same as killing
In this case, yes, remember all the people who became fucking suicidal after they've been turned into robots? If you're at fault for causing people to think
>well I might get corrupted at some point in time, better fucking kill myself
you might not be the best person out there.

>I wish the current market wasn't most profitable by making any romance vague for fujos and waifu losers fantasies;
But muh cute girls.

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Modern setting tales game when?

The closest we got is Xillia 2 with the half-done Elympios shit.

Don't forget the time travel plot

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>Modern setting tales game when?
Hopefully never.

Not everything has to be just like Persona.

Tales of Link is even closer to the modern setting. It got closed though.

The romance in the story is legit top tier though.

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>Everything has to be Persona

Persona is not be all end all of modern day JRPGs. You can still be different.

I want out of Crow's wild ride, why am I busting my ass for literally 50 cents ?

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Minera in hearts r was pretty close too.

My sides

Minera was a standard sci-fi city though.

Because Falcom forgot how to write good stories.

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Modern settings are garbage. Look at what happened to Final Fantasy when it transitioned from the comfy medieval settings with steampunk elements in the 90s to the futuristic and modern titles in the 2010s.

I wouldn't mind a Tales with some modern stuff while keeping the fantasy stuff like Magic (Kinda like trails series or FF7) but one completely modern is a hard pass for me

I modern blame SE's general incompetence more than the setting. FFXV's setting looked cool while it was still the "versus vaporware", the "modernity" didn't matter for ffxv in the end because it was all just a damn road trip in the country.

very nice

I love the cute girls in the series as much as the next user but I just want namco to stop blueballing me with teased romances that ends up only hanging up in the air.

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They should just quit even trying with romance.

Only the best for best boy I want to stop throwing gems at this banner.

t. fujo

Will be there for our enjoyment whether they find Mr. Right or not.

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Come on, modern isn't synonymous with highschool and mundanities. They obviously gonna keep the element of fantasy in there so there's still magic/artes n shit.

Xillia came pretty close with olympios but it was more on the steampunk/industrial era.

Who will be the dubs?

fujo is also a kind of romance though

So is Rays fun and f2p friendly? Have nothing to do with my phone since I uninstalled FGO and FEH months ago.

Is it also easy enough to play for those without moonspeak? I can only read some kanjis though. Kata and hira are fine.

So instead of not-Ludger he's actually not-Senel?

Zesty

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ew

David Hayter and Cristina Vee

Hyped as fuck. Hope it won't become an Epic Store only.

i agree
they should just let you pick your waifu instead like in symphonia

Depends whether he's obsessed with bread and Shionne has an older sister.

>not Ludger

Hype as fuck
Man, I love Zaveid. No homo.

>NAGAREBOSHI
>NAGAREBOSHI
>NAGAREBOSHI
>SPERU ABSOOOBAA

meebo pls

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>17th installment in anime game franchise not counting over a dozen spinoffs, mobileshitters, MMO attempts, etc.
>GOTY
lmao

And end up like modern kiseki series? Hell no. That shit killed the franchise.

>SPERU ABSOOOBAA

The hell is this?

>And end up like modern kiseki series?
That's right, haha.

man I played rays for 1 year and I will keep going and boy I had some ups and downs but the game is very enjoyable if you don't take it seriously

DBFZ, Granblue, Tekken 7 and Ace Combat 7 look amazing though

>Rean and his self-insert shit killed kiseki.

Man, it was such a disappointment. Kevin was one of the most likable protag from the whole JRPG genre.

More like tales of arse

gottem

Well, Dahna does sound irish.
I guess all woman in that planet have a flat ass too.

That's a even more cancerous form of romance

Tales of Arse-nic.

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True.

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I'd rather have none at all.

DANA FOREVER

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If you like Tales gameplay then you'll like Rays since it basically that but for mobile. There's auto too for when you don't feel like playing and just want to grind. They give out gems pretty frequently as well as rerun banners a lot (including collabs) so if you can resist them when they come out then you don't have to worry too much about ever spending (though they do come out with good paid gem deals every once in a while). It's pretty straightforward to play without reading but personally I like the story a lot and would reccomend reading that and especially the skits/event stories if anything since fans are translating it. It's the only Tales crossover game where everyone does remember everything from the game they're from so it's lots of fun (and satisfying) to see certain characters interact.

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Based Cless

Graphics-wise, it is better than Granblue Fantasy Relink?

Guess i should give it a try

This will probably be the best time to join for a while too, I hope you enjoy it user.

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How does one get Rays? Japanese store account or APK uploads? I do nothing with Android so I don't which way is up.

>pink hair slut
check
>gets herself a sex slave
check
> falls for th BDC
check
>her sex slave fucks her into RISING UP
check

apps.qoo-app.com/en/app/4904

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Imagine all the shitpostings we will get if Dahna residents are all brown and Rena residents are white.

Probably makes it even worse in the heat if anything, don't equate it being pale from living in a basement all day

what is this, medieval Raiden?

There's nothing edgy about that?... I swear you niggers slap on edgy on to anything you don't like

Awesome!

WELL
IF IT ISN'T SAUCY ALPHEN

But i like it
Will probably play the jap version because i'm a impatient fuck too

BUT THIS

THIS ISN'T MY SWORD

All we need is a medieval Armstrong and the memes will make themselves.

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I think they'll go for worldwide simultaneous release this time around, showing it off at E3 first.

How many years until tales gets raytracing?
10+?

>Gaytracing
If fucking Quake 2 needs a 2060 to run at 800p 60FPS why do you think Tales of all things will ever bother with that meme?

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The reason they are keeping the composer a secret is because it's Sawano. You heard it here first.

>Sawano

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When are we gonna have fucking non-human party members again?

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NICE KNIFE

That's because it's premature tech.

Kunzite was the last I played as.

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Spell Absorber I assume.

I guess user meant non humanoid party members, so blenderman shouldn't really count even with the Repede costume on.

Excellent, thank you.

Is Colette the recordholder for most new mobile outfits?

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She fair a fair amount of outfits at least.

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Are they using stock music again, bros? Or is this finally Go Shiina???

I just hope they never do the monster taming thing again.

Wait, I recognize that voice. Consider it preordered.

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I think it is the real deal, since they don't want to unveil the composer yet. It's not Motoi at least.

Hopefully it's not Go Shiina. His music is obnoxious, he doesn't know what subtlety and restrain is.

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>Carrying your lvl 200 pokemon to ng+, kicking Lloyd's ass and steamrolling the whole game
That's the most fun i got from DOTNW

Anime artorias?

>Go Shiina

The game is doomed if Shiina is the composer. We all know he can only compose for bad Tales games.

>didnt get anyones MAs from the Rays free multi
FUCK
With Duke coming and Yuri getting another MA, im not spending on anything.

That's a phat womanlet
Look at dem thighs

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She's not all that phat in game.

It's time to break that curse. Fuck Baba and FUCK Sakuraba
Ok but, shit bops.
youtu.be/_nsDUPGU5Nw

I sure do enjoy Rutee

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>We all know he can only compose for bad Tales games.
Moot point considering most of the "fans" think the whole series is garbage except for their 1 or 2 favorite games

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Edgy tales of story again? I'm tired of edge, we've had it for 4 goddamn games already do they think this is what people want out of hte series now or that it's good storytelling?

Why are they only showing 2 characters? Will there be no party? No skits?

Flat ?

Party members are never revealed all at once. It's one or two at a time.

Same.

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Welcome to the Dawn of the New Tales

Mark my words The male protagonist will stuck in eternity with female protagonist in the end of this game.

can't say I have

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They always reveal the main hero and heroine together (usually) when they annouce a new Tales game. We'll get new info on other party members within the next few months.

Excited. Poinltessly hoping for good area design for the first time in 5 games.

4? I only remember X2 and Berseria being edgy

berseria is a lighthearted romcom and not edgy at all

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This, Xilia engine or whatever it was, was pure garbage, berseria had some good outside environments but the dungeons were still trash.

xillia has genocide
zestria has killing so long as ou think you're right for it

Kek

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A part of me wants fruity gayness like Graces or Hearts again. Good, old Tales of aesthetics. This Post Xillia stuff is getting drab and samey though Arise looks good.

We've been edgy since Symphonia if it's by this site standards.

Other Tales games have those too though and I don't really consider them edgy

>Tales
>good area design
I've played like 3/4ths of mothership titles in part or in whole, I don't remember any outstanding areas in terms of art or navigation.

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Already miles better than Zestiria and Berseria, looks like putting the series on hiatus was the right choice

The trailer showed a character with a blue scarf dodging enemies, and the same guy again shows up in the train explosion scene

That's MC before his mask breaks off. You can see his white hair sticking out.

This.
I hope they start making another game with the same engine and a little polishing right after this one releases.

I still think they are working on tempest r with a smaller team for switch.

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Even if it was exclusive, the same happened to vesperia where the PS3 received an improved version after a short while with more content and added characters.

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That's some top shelf bantz. I never knew how much I wanted to see Jade and Edna snipe at each other.

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Nanaly's something else hasn't played Destiny 2

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Nanaly's pretty nice.

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Oddly long neck though.

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Oh boy.

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