Is BoTW the penultimate open world experience?

What did Botw do that other open-world games couldn't do?

He also has a mommy-baby fetish with his gf

Why does he try to sound like a nigger Christopher Walken?

I got fucking tired of open world games midway into Assassin's Creed 1, I don't know what people see in it.
Just go back to levels. Levels are fun.

I honestly think the climbing system in BotW is downright brilliant and something every open world game should have.

KEEP

It was zelda and that's it. If it wasn't it would already be forgotten.

literally what the fuck does BotW do any different than any other open world game that came before and after it
also, I liked how he joked about BotW2 not being a big deal right after banjo's reveal, but that's actually how most people feel

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Made exploring fun

I see where he's coming from but I disagree. BotW didn't really benefit from being open-world either. It was too empty.

But this is based

I'm fine with BOTW2 just being more BOTW in terms of environment interactions, but with a good story too and good dungeon design.
If BOTW had points docked for anything, it was that.
In the same way Mario Galaxy 1 introduced new stuff and Galaxy2 perfected a lot of it

He tries to sound like an 80s Urkel-type comic relief sitcom character.

Christopher Walken just has a genuinely retarded accent combined with a history in musical theater.

Keep

The SNES version of Aladdin was 100 times better than the Genesis one. What are you talking about?

source?

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What open world games don't let you go everywhere these days? That's been a thing at least since Skyrim's "you see that mountain? you can climb it" if not earlier.

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Keep saying it

keep saying it

Watch some of the feeding videos on her youtube channel. Sick shit.

Open world games suck.
Zelda would be forgotten if it was a new IP

Every open world game is the best game ever for the first 5 hours, and then you realize there's 70 more hours of content that's identical to those first 5 hours.

BLACKED 2 BAYBAY

absolutely trash opinion, on par with the idiots that think Mario Allstars eye rape graphics are good.

>Dunkey is a white guy who sounds black
>with a black friend who sounds white

I unironically feel the same. I can' quite explain why. Everything just worked.

Keep saying it.

I don't know about that. Fallout 3 and NV are drastically different in pacing and playstyle from beginning to end, same with a lot of open-world RPGs (including your Might and Magics and such into that, way back to the original Ultima).

It's really the Ubisoft approach that's just a fucking chore.

botw is king until I find a game that does exploring better

What is BotW then? As someone who isn’t a Zelda superfan, but genuinely likes the series and absolutely hates BotW, I see it as the same snotty pointless filler open world games are defined by

I remember the panel at GDQ where they said they were going to even allow players to use their swords as footholds. Lots of cut content that'll be making a debut in the sequel for sure.

say it again

STOP FUCKING SAYING KEEP SAYING IT

It has an interestingly designed world with lots of variety and mechanics that make traversing it and getting to all the cool-looking places fun.

i've played 8-10 hours and i don't have any desire to go back to play more. what am i missing lads.
it just feels average.

>same video he claims FF7's plot is on par with the entirety of KH lore for how convoluted it is
I wouldn't take his word so seriously

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you can literally go anywhere you see (besides the borders of the world map). it isn't a lie like Skyrim is. navigating and exploring never got boring to me, while in games like Skyrim it's a fucking chore to work around the invisible walls and world instances. you can argue botw's world is pretty empty, sure, but it still feels extremely liberating and free

dunkey is an unfunny cuck who unironically likes garbage games like uncharted and botw. if you care about his opinions or find his ""humor"" funny fucking kill yourself.

I don't even like BOTW as much as some other people seem to and I agree. I get this vague sense of irritation whenever I hit an invisible wall or walk up to a door and it's just a texture. BOTW only managed to feel uninterrupted because its world was mostly empty, and making a world that feels freeform in a setting that inherently requires a lot of NPC's and high levels of detail is doubtlessly a massive challenge. Whether or not CDPR has accomplished it remains to be seen. I'm cautiously optimistic, though.

>pandering to children
>acts retarded
Gotta admit, I wish I had the ability to sell out and make easy cash. The only thing I get for having a spine is my inevitable battle with the predator. It's gonna be nuts.

He's right though. Neither series is very convoluted at all if you're paying attention.

keep saying it

keep saying it

Why is it that some retards fall for the e-celebs have good opinions meme?

>literally what the fuck does BotW do any different than any other open world game that came before and after it
Make exploring actually enjoyable and the point of the game, rather than a framework on which generic gameplay is placed.

You have no idea what penultimate means, do you?

spider please

>what am i missing lads
Wanderlust

To me being able to climb anything breaks my immersion. It's like why Saints Row is just average to me. Traversal is too easy. Everything just seems meaningless.

keep saying it

Keep saying it

Moth. I want to help her improve her confidence and hug her and tell her she's beautiful

I've been thinking of unsubbing for a while, which I did after the E3 video.
I don't know how can one man grow to be so equally immature and pretentious after all these years while taking pride in it, yet is defensive enough to say that's it's all just an act.
I remember when an old friend of mine recommended him to me when he just had sub-20K subscribers, and he was incredibly funny then.

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no, its the ultimate open world experience

Fuck off.

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zoomers

>Likes FFXV.
>Wants FFVII-R to be like it.

And people take him seriously.

Except BotW had a invisible wall west of the Gerudo Highlands.

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What is there to do in BotW's open-world, I'll wait.
>inb4 "you can move some rocks around and collect 900 pieces of shit or play in 100 uninspired and boring dungeons ex dEEEE!!!"
For fuck's sake even Skyrim has better open-world elements.

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What's the point of exploring if it doesn't lead to anything?

Yes the game is a 7-8/10 for me as a life long zelda fan but its really an open world experience like no other. Im not sure dunky stated his properly but i get what he is saying with BoTW is really designed as an open world game, it doesnt work without it in really any way shape or form. compare that to red dead or spiderman and it really does set itself apart because while those games are better for being open world they dont NEED to be. They would be worse games but you could make it.

I still think his comedy videos are funny, but he should be slapped in the mouth whevever he tries to give critical analysis on anything.

exploring.

Exploring is the point. BOTW made the act itself enjoyable for a lot of people, meaning it doesn't need to lead to something.

exploring what?
exploring for what purpose?
you idiots need to understand that no one in fucking human history decided to explore just because exploring.

keep saying it

You'd hope it'd at least lead to a unique sight.

somebody post it

>makes exploring actually enjoyable and the point of the game
Dying Light did it first

Sometimes I wish I could meet these e-celebs and journalists in person, so I can ask them what was going through their minds when they said all those retarded things about botw.

because the environment looks cool, maybe this game just isn't for you user

It was fake.

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Keep saying it botw fanboys, doesn't make it true though

but user the supernes version of aladdin is better, and megaman 11 is hard

>you idiots need to understand that no one in fucking human history decided to explore just because exploring.

I'm beginning to think you're fucking around, Anonymous.

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BOTW didn't benefit from it either though?

>because of pretty places
so this is the type of person that claims BOTW is a masterpiece.

"Exploring for the sake of exploring" works only when you have environmental story-telling. BotW just has wildlands and dumb giant mazes everywhere. Even the coolest place I found, a giant ancient building reduced to nearly rubble filled with guardians, was pretty sub-par because I couldn't figure out why it's there or what its purpose may have served before its destruction, or why it might be filled with guardians.

>what is foundation

nah dude, you see this is my first triple aaa open world game where i dont know what to do, also look at the pretty graphics, its obvious that this is a masterpiece.

The thing that made it stand out for me was the climbing. It was fun trying to figure out how to get up mountains early game with low stamina

What? The point of exploration in games is to find things. That's why people like Fallout 3 despite its many flaws. What's the point if there's nothing to find?
He's right.

And think of all the fucking empty nothing there was?
>literally what the fuck does BotW do any different than any other open world game that came before and after it
a few movement systems like climbing that means cliff faces aren't walls. It also has a lack of fucking anything to find that isn't more shitty puzzle shrines or fucking korok seeds.

Nope. Nintendofags are dumb.

>no one in fucking human history decided to explore just because exploring.
Imagine being this fucking retarded.

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Yawn. The daily Botw shill thread from the same autist every day.

Switchlets really don't have anything to play.

>penultimate
what is the ultimate open world experience?

Dunkeys a disgusting nint*ndrone and it completely ruins everything he "reviews" because he's clearly biased.

Now fuck off with this eceleb shit retard

You have to be fucking autistic.
There's plenty of games that do something better than practically every other game.
That doesn't make those other games unplayable, it's called adjusting. Every game has their strengths and weaknesses.

Its "keep sayin it"

It doesn't have to be, if the game makes exploring itself enjoyable. That's the whole fucking point you literal mongoloid.

>no dungeons
>the only purpose to explore is the same reused assets "puzzle"
>shit music
literally a step down

There's very few good open world games and witcher 3 still stands at the top, no matter how much you reee

Morrowind

SAYING

Speak it one more time

The Witcher 3 is.

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Keep saying what?

Dunkey was being sarcastic you utter faggot. Dunkey's videos are all sarcastic.

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>shit music
naaaah duuude you don't get it three notes every five minutes is, like, symbolic of the ruined world, and stuff, duuuude, it's a total masterpiece duuuuuuuude it's genius

Tell it again

>but that's actually how most people feel

You would be surprised
youtu.be/AwjNaIX737g

Switchlets literally don't play anything else but Nintendo games though. That's why they think bing bing wahoo and ubisoft clone of the wild is so revolutionary.

Ear lobes and jaw line are also different. So is the hair in front of her ear.

>RDR2 or Spider-man didnt benefit from being open world
It feels like he didn't even play those games

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Nah, not about BoTW. That and mario games are some of the few he's admitted to being in love with.

post the cuck porn
post it

BoTW was very average. There are a lot of better games.

Wrong. I play basically only PC with a Switch for exclusives. I barely spend any time playing my Switch except when a game I want comes out, then it's back to PC.

You really dont want to listen to his RDR2 review
>inb4 he’s just being sarcastic, bro

Bing Bing Nintentoddler shit good
RPG bad

it's really easy to tell when he's sarcastic and when he's sincere, user.

...you DO have basic social skills and can tell how other people are feeling, right user? It's okay if not, there are lots of autists here.

BotW was a tech demo that I hope they learned to accept criticism from. If BotW2 has weapon durability AGAIN I will not fucking play it.

He's a dirty spic

>projared hates sa2
>turns out to be a pedophile
>dunkey is a nintendo fanboy
>turns out to be a cuckold
the worst people have the worst opinions

Do you mean traversal? Because exploratin without finding things is fun nor is it exploration.

So you're just dumb then.

If you played BotW you would know what he means

*not fun

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>wrong, im a retard
good to know then

No. It's the penultimate mindless exploration game ala. Minecraft. It's a game where you get on, walk in on direction and you'll probably experience all there is to offer within a few hours. It's not a realized open world like GTAV or Cyberpunk where the focus is on creating a narrative and city that you eventually know like the back of your hand, with characters and item/gear/level progression. The two are entirely separate and appeal to difference people.

No he's not
Here's go it goes
>Is it a nintendo game?
it will get its cock sucked and slurped and told how industry changing it is, even the most blatant meh product is gonna be incredible

>is it anything else?
Average at best and will go in deep on its flaws.

CDPRfans turn out to be into actual futa so it seems we are all cursed

Honestly the game has a really phenomenally designed world, you can see they put a fucking ridiculous amount of thought into it. Wood in structures and stones in roads are locally sourced, there are layers of habitation and civilization radiating out from settlements, trade routes have more robust roads with more wear, rivers run naturally through terrain, even the most random shit is deliberately set up. I remember seeing a broken barrel at the bottom of a little ravine and then realizing I could see that it had rolled away from a cluster of barrels near a camp and followed a natural depression on it's way down.

It is though, and there's clearly a lot of people who think likewise based on the success of the game.
It's okay to not like every game ever, but pretending it's worthless because you don't personally like what it's going for is just dumb.

I can't believe there's people retarded enough to believe Leah looks like THAT naked.

Disagree that it's a tech demo, it was a great game but it definitely has flaws. Mainly that the dungeons were too simple when complex puzzles and dungeons has been a staple of basically every Zelda game ever.

I do agree 1000% that the weapon durability was annoying as fuck. I can't see how they would balance the weapons drops without keeping durability because some of the weapons were just OP, but at the very least the weapons should last way way longer.

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based videogamecuckey impersonator

show a webm or video if that walls so invisible

Too bad they didn't want to think about anything else.

>literally what the fuck does BotW do any different than any other open world game that came before and after it

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Don't kid yourself. Even Gothic allowed as much traversal as BoTW and it was nothing special in that game.

>I-Im definitely not a nintenigger

are they married?

>keep saying it
this will always make me kek

Want to try again user?

>It also has a lack of fucking anything to find that isn't more shitty puzzle shrines or fucking korok seeds

Over 50 unique environmental shrine quests
Three roaming dragons
A literal horse god
Kilton's roaming monster shop
Great fairies
Tons of wildlife to hunt or collect for your compendium
Lynel battles
More towns than any previous game in the series
Sidequest where you build a town
Pondo's lodge
Shiekah labs
The three labyrinths
Lord of the Mountain
Lost memories
Lover's pond
Evil cursed statue
Shadow forest
Hidden Gerudo shop
Eventide
Thunderlands
Trial of the sword
Snowball bowling
Boulder golfing
Gut check challenge
Mystery of the seven heroine statues

Should I keep going

>incoherentphilosophicalrambling.jpg
oh no i am defeat

Weapon Durability was core to the game and I won't play the sequel if they listen to whining retards and remove it.

>Complain Nintendo fags only play Nintendo consoles
>They actually don't
>Resort to name calling
Stay mad faggots. You just wish you weren't so blinded by brand loyalty that you could enjoy video games.

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thanks for putting all your tl;dr in an image so I can just scroll right past it, bonus points for the wojak image making me want to look even less

he's got a point here

>Is a cuck and like nintendo
Holy fuck. It's true, memes are reality in humor form. Does he usually have his mouth agape too?

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is that leah and dunkey?

but do you have to play as the little green man from all the cuck SFM porn? huh?

>Should I keep going
please don't, we have enough evidence that you are delusional

Correct.

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>Weapon Durability was core to the game
Absolute state of Nintenbabs
Because a truly FUN game would force you to stop using a weapon you enjoy, please, Nintendo, shove that pacifier in my mouth! I'm tired of actually being treated like a person with an IQ above 5!

VG dunkey is black so this may really be leahbee and dunkey sextape leak

I like fucking around with stasis and smacking myself into next week to get across the map in BOTW and I don’t know any other open world game that lets me do shit like this

fact: weapon durability has NEVER been a good mechanic. it makes a game feel like work, and not the good kind of work either

So how did he get a girl out of his league like that?

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They're not into futa, but having dickgirls in a setting about absolute degeneracy and people horrendously modifying themselves with all sorts of implants and augments is a non issue only the most disingenuous who want to smear cares about.

It being succesful does not make traversal into exploration.

You're right, I probably should have stopped at "you're a faggot"

She's barely out of his league.

morrowind

Too funny of a coincidence to let it go...

She's sexually satisfied by niggers on the side AND gets his youtube money.

No, it's definitely there. It's pretty far out of the way though, that's about the only place the game will tell you to "turn back" while it still looks like a natural place you can go (the other edges of the map are either endless ocean or a sheer cliff)

Is that supposed to be a witty response? Lol

why is it funny

I grew up with the Genesis (PC) version

The SNES Aladdin is a million times better. The only reason people liked the Virgin one over the Capcom game because "muh graphics" which doesn't matter anymore

>Three roaming dragons
That you can only take pictures of and can't fight whatsoever or do anything interesting with.
>A literal horse god
Horses were poorly-implemented and sucked ass, Red Dead Zombies had horse gods and those were infinitely better because you had a reason to actually use them
>Kilton's roaming monster shop
Hahaha
>Great fairies
fucking lmao
>Tons of wildlife to hunt or collect for your compendium
Never thought I'd actually see someone praise a game for including elements from those trash fucking hunting games that flooded the 360 and Wii era

I could keep going but I hate you for causing me eye-strain from the incredible amount of rolling you caused them.

She was abused as a child and clearly has some feeder shit going on

>she's barely out of his league
In what world?
She's got an eh face I guess but a pretty great body.

But seriously, he's clearly infatuated with blacks. He pretended to be black for years with his dialect. His favorite music is R and B. It's not surprising at all that he would do this.

Money, personality and he lets her fuck big dick bulls while he watches

ANTS

>feeder shit going on
Elaborate i don't seem to know what this means.

>He also has a mommy-baby fetish with his gf
Better than having a daddy-baby fetish

He didn't say Mega Man 11 was hard he said it was downright bullshit and fuck him for that, when he said that he showed footage of himself dying to a part meant to scare brainlets into literally killing theirselves like he did. However his opinions on BOTW are based

Maybe its the same thing that happened to Tarantino? His mom dated black men and he wanted to be like them

It's literally just ammo, stop being autistic.

>this game has no content
>but what about all this content
>NONONONO THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAID SO STOOOOOOOOOOP AAAAARHRHGHGHGHGNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Every. Goddamned. Time.

wasp is unironically the best choice for a long term relationship gf

Holy fuck you're dumb.

>penultimate
Google words you don't know before you use them user

I can name more things to do in the old camp in Gothic 1.

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MGS V did all of those years before BotW

Explain

The real world. Don't overrate her because she plays video games, weirdo. Her body isn't that good. Hence the "barely" part.

>i-it doesn't count

Nice try nigger, but moving the goalpost isn't gonna help you when the original claim was "there's nothing to find"

No lmao there's barely anything to do once you figure out the few tricks, then it's all repetition

>no one in fucking human history decided to explore just because exploring.
I'm genuinely sad for you, user. Go outside, take a walk just for the sake of it and then maybe you'll understand.

Including all the games that nintendies criticize

No but people say it is for the (you)’s

Ok so like Just Cause but less freedom. Sounds done already.

What about the Chinese girlfriend?

But it makes sense. BOTW is the penultimate, BOTW 2 is the ultimate.

Want to try again user?

And this proves me wrong how?

My mouth was literally watering at those videos of his wife getting fucked by that fat, juicy nigger cock while he watched like a pathetic white beta cuck. I wish I was Dunkey. I'd slurp up the cum out of her used up cunt when the bull was finished...

Maybe if your content was actually rewarding, satisfying, and worthwhile other than "I-I took picturessss :DDDD" you'd have a point.

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>run out of ammo
>can get more
>weapon breaks
>now never see it again

Based Sopranos poster

Feeder is a fetish where you feed somebody lots of food. Dunkey is a fat fuck and there are a number of very uncomfortable youtube videos out there where she makes food and then feeds him it, I think they're called "yummy nummies" or something painful like that, I might sound like a schizo now but if you find them you'll probably understand what I'm talking about.

that game kinda sucks

>don't overrate her cause she plays video games
That's a negative women who play games are mentally unstable most of the time, not sure where you got that from out of my post though.
Her body is for sure nice.

Yeah this is a big thing. I played The Witcher 3 sometime before BOTW and was annoyed because Geralt couldn't climb a small ledge anyone with his physical prowess could, so I had to go around the long way. In BOTW, I just just fucking climb something. That and a lot of little touches like cutting down trees and using them as bridges, making fire arrows by sticking an arrow into a fire, lightning being attracted to metal equipment when can be used against enemies if you time it right, and lots of other little things really made it for me. This is the sort of thing I used to try in games because, but eventually just stopped because they barely ever showed up.

The SNES version of Aladdin is infinitely better than the genesis version though.

>weapon breaks
>get identical weapon from the next mob you kill
my dude it's not like you fucking Engrave Link's name onto every single sword you pick up now is it

Unironically seething

but that's fucking incorrect everywhere on the edge of the map tells you to "turn back" when you reach it. if you played the game and checked map edges like some people you would know this

I don't think you can tbqh.

This.
People subbed to him for "How to pick up girls in LoL" kinda videos
I remember rewatching his old E3 and PS4/Xbox reveal videos, but I don't think I'll rewatch this new one because it's simply not funny
who am I... where am I...

Please show evidence that isn't anecdotal stories told by literal children.

>rewarding, satisfying, and worthwhile

Not quantifiable and purely subjective, most of it was entirely satisfying to me

Next

I mean I'm not gay but I fuck black dudes because I appreciate black culture.

BOTW 2

But user, you're the only assblasted person here.

None for gf
All of them for occasional fug

Then do it, faggot.

>I was satisfied with it therefore your criticism was wrong and I'm right
fuck off

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Go ahead, you objectively can't without retarded things like BEAINGT UP EVERY NPC COUNTS 20 TIMES BECAUSE THERE ARE 20 NPCS

almost everywhere to the North is an impossible cliff or an impossible looking chasm that blocks you
the east has endless desert, but in the Highlands is where you run into the spots where it looks like you can go further east but the game says no
anywhere else is endless ocean

Wasp or moth for sure

>prebuild
kek user aren't you trying to prove that you're not a retard when it comes to PC ?

hahaha the retards on this board is too much

>Is BoTW the penultimate open world experience?
fuck no, GOD fuck no. It's one of the weakest open worlds out there

>very weak enemy variety, going as far as putting lizards in cold places
>after a few hours the player will have no incentive to explore because the cost of exploring outweighs the gains
>very few unique items to gain, barely any in-game economy to promote treasure hunting
>the main thing to seek out are shrines which always give the same rewards
>enemies just drop consumables for the most part, which by mid game you will have an excess of

If it's so simple then why does it matter? why is it necessary?

It's not just a fetish thing, it's used to keep people dependent. Like the extreme version of a girl not wanting her bf to work out because she fears he might leave her for greener pastures

all of his friends are black too

You didn't have any criticisms and that was my point, faglord

>PREBUILT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAH

OH NO
HAHAHAHAHHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA

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I believe the opposite exactly BOTW does not feel like it justifies anything.

It feels like a ubishit game without the markers and an even worst oblivion degradation system.

dont make fun of the drone first pc user, the zoomer parents work hard to pay for it

it's less feeder shit and more about baby play actually
leah can pick tons of fat fucks, but dunkey's voice is perfect to act like a baby

>I wasn't satisfied with it based on my subjective criteria so your experience is invalid
fuck off

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Really? Why would leah need to keep him dependent?

>hidden ballgag
that is fucking HOT

so you don't just use one weapon forever, and also so it keeps weapon drops interesting throughout the course of the game and not just the first time you see a Royal Claymore or Firesword and that's it.

Here's my criticism: There's nothing worthwhile to do.
Your retort: "BUT ALL THIS INCONSEQUENTIAL BULLSHIT THAT GIVES YOU NOTHING."
My retort: That gives me nothing and isn't satisfying.
Your retort: "REEEEEEE NOT REAL CRITICISM I WAS SATISFIED THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE NOT SATISFIED"
now kill yourself

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>I can name more things to do in the old camp in Gothic 1.

Like what, you fat fuck?

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agreed my ngiga of supreme tastes

Oh yeah I think you're right, thinking again a good part of why those videos are so uncomfortable is definitely the baby talk shit and general initialization.

if only i wasn't so blind by brand loyalty i would go with chinese tablet and prebuilt cyberpowerPC too user

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or you could make other weapons worth using so you don't just want to use one forever, like every other fucking game

"IT DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE I SAY SO"
isn't a fucking criticism, nor a retort, you seething waste of time and flesh

>Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you, the future of mankind!
>"We travel east...always, to the east...."
>"DIABLO 2"
>What in the fuck is that
>Get the fuck off my stage

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That's the thing BotW succeeds at, he's not wrong at all

He's not wrong about BotW pretty much fucking up every other open world game, but his statements about RDR2 and Spiderman are retarded and show that he actually doesn't get what makes those games' open worlds good.

In Spiderman the game benefits from open world by letting you swing, it being the most fun part of the game by far, literally everyone praised two things from the game, the story and how you get to explore an actually pretty detailed New York freely.

In RDR2 the best part of the game is walking around and getting into wacky adventures. Playing like GTA and pissing of the cops is boring, and the scripted, linear levels that is the main campaign is pretty weak and restrictive.

AKA he's wrong but not really.

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>general initialization
infantilization, thanks spell check why the fuck doesn't Firefox think that's a word

Because it allows you to get a temporary power boost by hunting for strong weapons.

I remember buying this game with wanderlust in my mind thinking that it was going to be amazing and that I'd get so much playtime out of it.
I don't think I've ever rushed for the ending of an open-world game so quickly. God what a bland fucking chore to "explore" and play.

>get good at impersonating dunkey
>hire a black man to fuck your wife while you say spaghetti and meatballs
>get millions of (You)s
What a madlad

he's puerto rican "white" though

he's hurt gaming
people who only played league and Nintendo games kept parroting his videoes and "hot takes" and destroyed discussion on any game that isn't BING BANG WAHOO

yeah because there's so much fucking reason to keep using Iron Daggers in Skyrim, right dickhead

Define worthwhile
Define inconsequential
Define satisfying

You saying something is bad doesn't make it a fact. I can easily just refute you by saying it's good. I'll do it right now: there's plenty worthwhile to do. All the content is the opposite of inconsequential, and for that matter it's wholly satisfying.
Your retort: "NO IT'S NOT REEEEEEEE I DIDN'T LIKE THE GAME AND MY OPINION IS OBJECTIVE LEARN TO TAKE CRITICISM"

general insecurity.

Based retard

if it was just "ammo" then they would call it ammo retard. it's stupid to give "ammo" to a melee weapon, let alone any weapon where the game already has ammunition
>literally show how retarded weapon durability is in his own post
pottery
this

My views on bondage changed completely when I saw smut of it being "kinky" rather than "rapey" more or less, powerful stuff

Link?

Fucking whores

You still had to do a bunch of dumb BS before getting to fight Alduin. If you want to, you can go fight Ganon an hour into BOTW

>There's nothing worthwhile to do.

I honestly think some didn't understand the game at all. The game gives you one task: save the princess from the evil castle. The entire game is about the player figuring out how to do that all on their own. Literally every single thing you do in the game builds towards that goal.

Some can't handle a game which doesn't hold their hand and tell them what do

why bother hunting for them when they're just gonna break in a while? what sense of value does it have if it's not only merely temporary but you can just get another one anyway?

>post video that sounds like leah and dunkey
>everyone replies saying it's a fake and just impersonators
ok but why would someone impersonate someone while getting cucked it just doesn't make any sense is it just people delusional or what?

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At least things happen in the overworld in rdr2. botw is literally just gliding/climbing from one shrine/tower to the next

seething so bad you samefag, yikes!

>it's stupid to give "ammo" to a melee weapon
So you don't actually have a gameplay complaint, it just """feels""" wrong. Just like it """felt""" wrong when your parents moved the couch and it wasn't in the place it was SUPPOSED TO BE. Do you know what that might indicate?

He came to town....

nice arugment

Are you being deliberately dense? Strong weapons have a practical use in that they allow you to kill strong enemies.

how about the game gives me goals instead of forcing me to make up my own. it's like praising mario maker for making you make stages. nintendo fanboys have stockholm syndrome

Sorry I'm not autistic enough to learn soldering and shit just to play videogames

Eh, honestly that's why RDR2 is a worse game, in my opinion.
In RDR2 things only happen to you, it feels scripted as fuck when something is happening, and when nothing is happening it feels barren and boring.
In BotW you're constantly aware of the game's systems, fire, wind, water, etc. This keeps you on your toes for anything out of place, and given that you can ALWAYS go anywhere you want within the map, it never feels like you have nothing to do, just go to that shiny thing in the distance and have fun while doing it. It's simple but it's more engaging.

>don't like person
>make video that damages their character
>other people now also don't like person

Well, he's right about Guarma, but not about when you come back from there.

>soldering

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>In RDR2 the best part of the game is walking around

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rdr2 is a world of chance encounters
botw is an open world game that actually attempted to be a themepark and a sandbox just right

one thing about BOTW's world is that I'm not sure if other games did this first it would be as well recieved

wrong
>So you don't actually have a gameplay complaint
projection, it adds nothing to the gameplay when you either just get the weapon back from the next enemy as well. Weapon durability has never been a satisfying or meaningful mechanic. At best, it's a meaningless mechanic and at worst it's atrocious. Name some games that did weapon durability without it being either of those two.

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If you enjoy looking at setpieces without actually interacting with them in an in-depth way then I can understand why something like BOTW would be appealing, IMO it was pretty disappointing that you couldn't enter the Akkala ruins or any of the other large ruined structures, and of the few ruins you can enter most are just houses for shrines
hopefully BOTW 2 picks up some of the slack, given what we know so far I genuinely believe it'll render BOTW 1 completely obsolete and show how lacking of a game it really is once it's out

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Who the fuck's Dunkey? Classmate of yours?

Oh I can define all three of those very easily with a good example from an actually good open-world game.
Morrowind has a very fucking big world, one that's easy to get lost in, but if you're willing to go the extra mile to explore the dank ruins, you can find some amazing shit. There's so many weapons and enchanted gear that give you amazing effects that you could never see after playing for hundreds of hours just because you don't look well enough, but when you do and you find it and realise what amazing power it gives you or effect it has, that's satisfying, that's worthwhile to me, that's what makes me want to explore more.
Meanwhile, in Breath of the Wild, I spend 10 years doing shitty half-assed puzzles in dungeons just so I can spend them on one extra heart crystal or a sliver of stamina. That's not fucking rewarding in the slightest.

this is the dumbest fucking thing I've read in a really, really long time, congrats man

Same, it's not a single thing I could place my finger on but a whole bunch of smart little design choices that make the whole open-world gimmick work the way it should. I think the most genius thing they did was give you a single main quest, Kill Ganon™, and they actually let you do it right after the tutorial, therefore everything you do in the game is equally important towards completing the main quest.

And my god, the draw distances in BotW still blow me away, even though it looks very last gen on a technical level. They actually honored the "see that mountain you can climb it" meme.

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>is a pedo anime lover
Yeah, explains a lot. Go back to resetera

It does give you goals. It just doesn't force you to do them. The game treats you like an adult.

actually never mind this is

>>is a pedo anime lover

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>scripted events bad
>chance encounters good
You know those are scripted too right?
Someone wrote and designed them just like every other quest then the game rolls the dice to show them

Nothing like sucking on some titties.

let me just crop his sentence to pretend like that's what he said

wat?

>soldering
>while building PC
I thought having negative IQ wasn't possible, but here we are...

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Well yeah, Rockstar filled the game with a bunch of interesting crap, you can walk around a swamp well-aware that something is going to happen eventually. It feels scripted, as if Arthur just walked into a movie, right on queue.

Doesn't that seem a bit of a reach? I could get making a video that damages their person, not a sex tape that sounds exactly like them it just seems too far out there to me.

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she braps

/g/ here, these types remind me of apple fan
do nintenigger buy hardware to justify a status or something ?

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>Breath of the Wild treats you like an adult.
Yeah, like when your parents drop you off at a park and tell you to run wild, they're really treating you like adults there.

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>my nintendo zelda game really treats me like an adult

>epic reddit wojack image
I'm guessing based on this post that your parents did this to you today after some epic fortnite gamin', Noah?

seems like an equally far reach that a famous internet person would deliberately make a video like that and fucking post it on the internet, doesn't it?

Let's see.
>joining the old camp
>tons of buildings you can enter
>you can get your own building
>three guys you can fight in the arena
>you can place bets on fights
>protection racketeers will tell other guys to beat you up if you don't pay up
>listen to In Extremo
>smithing
>robbing Gomez and becoming filthy rich
>finding a hidden entrance to the castle
>coming back later in the game and killing everyone
>also freeing the smith while you're at it
>send a guy to the cultists because his friend did the same
>jerk off to the women
>beat up the guy from the beginning of the game
>becoming a shadow
>making your way up the ranks
If I listed all the quests involved with doing these things the list would most likely be longer than his.

i didn't say scripted events were bad

what i meant is that RDR2's world feels like a world of chance encounters

>RDR2: Go directly to this spot, wait for a gang member to show up and tell you exactly what to do and how to do it, and make sure you accomplish this exactly the way you are told otherwise it fails
>BoTW: Save Zelda. Figure out the rest yourself.

>do nintenigger buy hardware to justify a status or something ?
Yes, people regularly compare the two, both only care about brand, and do not care about price/value
Except most people only buy Apple shit to trick 16 year old girls into sleeping with them, I dunno why people buy Nintendo

It's just massive cope. It sounds way too much like dunkey and leah for anyone to deny. It's so fucking weird

>Is BoTW the penultimate open world experience?
On the great plateau, I could see some strong arguments being made in BotW's favor.
Once you leave the plateau? Fuck no.

>Open thread
>People are unironically praising Nintendo for giving you nothing to do

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>tfw Nintendo wastes more time on stupid gimmicky "innovations" in botw2 and doesn't focus on good and varied level design
>again

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>>tons of buildings you can enter
I stopped reading there, if you're going to count walking into a hut as an activity why even post?

>a famous internet person
Famous internet people do really dumb shit all the time. Didn't some other youtube gamer get caught cheating on his wife and sending nudes through his official twitter?

Youtube people aren't exactly smart

very based

however fuck BOTW niggers its time to discuss the best RPG ever made

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>people are unironically praising Rockstar's handholding and narrow as fuck mission design as good design

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Nintendo brand paper

You can literally write anything you want on it. You want to write a fantasy adventure novel? Draw Kirby? The possibilities are endless!

So? RDR 1&2 and literally every Rockstar game are trash open-world games too.

>too retarded to use a screwdriver
>hates anime
So THIS is nu Yea Forums

if Gods and Monsters designs its world like BoTW will you get it?

those games treat you like a retarded kid, not an adult

To you. I loved exploring and just discovering those locations. I loved hitting all the landmarks and filling out the map, loved all the different locales and scenery and setpieces in the overworld. I liked getting a hunch about some tucked away corner of the world and discovering I was meant to go there via shrine. I liked the unique shrine quests and the cool little puzzles like the one you have to reveal by getting struck with lightning, or the one where you have to bowl down the entrance by forming a giant snowball. Small things like that add up to a greatly rewarding overall experience and I loved the discovery for it's own sake. Maybe you don't agree but that's inconsequential to my experience. I love the game.

>however fuck BOTW niggers its time to discuss the best RPG ever made
But that's Gothic 2

A video can be leaked by another source but, i'll agree it seems odd, the explanation for the video you gave is still way more of a reach than that is though.

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Dunkey was also right about GOW. He actually beat the games and like games before cinematic experiences. That's why their opinions are similar to most of good fellas on Yea Forums. I just can't agree on hating on JRPG that much.

>if Gods and Monsters designs its world like BoTW will you get it?
No, because it's not called Zelda

I'll never get tired of this pretentious brainlet argument. The plateau is actually pretty fucking boring compared to the rest of the game.

literally 90% of botw is optional
you can beat the game in an hour meaning it did not benefit from being open world

Would you guys smash Leah if dunkey asked you to cuck him?

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Look guys, MGSV is genius:
>Every mission is just "Rescue/kill the target, figure the rest out on your own".

Don't forget somebody uploaded an obvious fake video to pornhub, then kept spamming that video to show the rumors were fake

He's right

RDR is shit too faggot

you're talking about video games champ. they're all for kids. objectives and directions does not make a game childish, being a game makes it childish

>level design

Proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

It's a joke.
>More towns than any previous game in the series
>tons of buildings you can enter
Neither of those things mean anything.

Cringe

Plateau and Eventide are by far the best areas in the game, aside from maybe Hyrule Castle if you care enough to explore it. The Plateau is a perfect microcosm of just about everything BotW has to offer, provides a decent challenge, and constantly rewards the player. Anyone who says the Plateau is boring or shit is retarded and is likely only saying that in a pathetic attempt to defend the rest of the game.

You could cut down trees with her cin

Present some good games then if you think BotW and MGSV suck so bad.
Guarentee you won’t because you don’t want your taste to be mocked.

>Proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

Proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

Not really into cucking but I guess it's kind of odd to have a guy watch you fuck his girlfriend though.
She has an alright body for sure so idk
I'm not black so not sure if dunkey would be down either.

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Oh no I think MGSV is a very good game, much better than BotW, it's just not genius or amazing because of how "free-form" it is.

Kamidori

I wish I could feel something as much as she feels when botw2 is announced

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>tons of buildings you can enter

I, uh

I don't know if that qualifies as doing/finding anything

It's a fake reaction numbnut

It didn't innovate much on Open World games. But it took most of the best features of all the other Open World games and threw them together into one game. In that way, like a lot of people here have said, when trying to play another game, all I keep thinking is "climbing in Skyrim would make travel much more efficient" or "hunting in RDR isn't as fluid as BotW" and so on.

However, I don't agree with this guy that RDR didn't benefit from being open world. Over half the games content is optional, found from exploring.

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>My subjective opinion is the objective truth: The Thread

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Oblivion wasn't that good bro

>KH not convoluted

If Yea Forums fights against something so hard, its generally good desu, otherwise it'd get ignored and forgotten.

you're literally complaining about all open world games BESIDES botw. botw is the only one with things to actually find.
>NO KOROK SEEDS DON'T COUNT!
>A DRAGON SHOUT I'LL NEVER USE. THANK YOU TODD!

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Kingdom Hearts isn't convoluted, its just a lot to remember
the continuity isn't as fast and loose as people make it out to be
its not like things are constantly retconned

STALKER with the Anomaly mod is the only open world game I still enjoy and have over 500 hours in. Nothing comes close to how organic everything feels while still keeping you on your toes and presenting new situations to you.

Towns absolutely mean something, as there's a variety of stuff to do in BotW's towns. Hateno village alone has sidequests, shops, the dye merchant, one of the labs, and your very own house you can get with its own customizable wall mounts.

Breath of the Wild spoiled me on many things. Here's a list of things that are unique to it, or are spun to feel fresh and new

>chemistry system where almost everything in the world can be interacted with or modified in some way
>no invisible walls. Zero. None.
Which leads to
>you can climb almost every vertical solid, so long as it makes sense with the chemistry system
>weather system that is also tied to the chemistry system. Can't climb rocks in the rain. Can freeze to death in snow unless you make a fire. Lightning Storms are dangerous if you have any metal equipped, etc
>radar system that very vaugely points to one of the 90 shrines, which motivates exploration since you usually cannot find shrines in the open, and usually no matter which direction you go, there will be an interesting event or puzzle on your way. Enemy camps, hidden treasure, korok seeds, random npcs, etc

Honestly. It ruined single player games for quite some time for me. I kinda hate Breath of the Wild because of it.

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>years before
>it's true
Fuck I always laugh at people posting this shitty meme but I could swear that game just came out like last year. BotW has also been out for awhile now apparently, I thought it was crazy Nintendo was announcing a sequel less than a year after launch. Where does the time go?

>NO KOROK SEEDS DON'T COUNT!
This thread has unironically devolved into defending korok seeds.

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e-celebs could fawn over gargling cocks and their legions would immediately start cramming as many dicks as they could into their mouths.
I know their audience is mostly children, but it's depressing how much influence they have.

>ignores the fact that a lot of those missions aren't skip able and have to be done in a certain order
bravo

>tendies spam their first open world game every day continually comparing it to other open world games
>h-hey you guys hate it because it's good!

Yikes. That insecurity.

>Lightning Storms are dangerous if you have any metal equipped
God this shit was fucking retarded.

But Assassin's Creed Odyssey did it way better than the barren open world of Breath of the Wild.

Cringe.

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Nier Automata made my peepee hard too, doesn't make it a good open world game

Do feathers count as exploration?

Keep sayin' it.

>holy shit a rock out of place. no way this can't be...
>YA HA HA!
>OMG YES A 1/10 OF A BIODEGRADABLE WEAPON SLOT THANK YOU NINTENDO

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Are you saying that BotW is better because you can beat it in 30 minutes?

Doesn't necessarily feel scripted, red is based off the real world wherein those days it WAS barren and totally fucking boring, plus Arthur was a real go getter and made out to be a curious fella. It may not be as engaging but the premise was to simulate the life of a gunslinger. It's not really fair to compare the two games

It's like watching Pulp Fiction and complaining because there aren't any wizards.

Nice.

sick thumbnail bro

Fuck this fat unfunny faggot. KYS if you ever liked him. He has the worst video game opinions and it's so predictable what he's going to burp out of his obese mouth.

>does it spoon feed me like I guzzle down lard IRL?
>it is epic
>does it require any thought or time commitment
>GAME BAD

The buildings have meaning as well.

Not really into videogames, visiting from Yea Forums and /tg/ actually. Yea Forums has the same mentality about this kinda stuff.
>Posts popular media with good reviews
>People sperg out
Its interesting how there are some neat trends to be noted.

For the experience itself. Its intrinsic motivation as apposed to extrinsic.

This is typical Zelda autism, just with a massive amount of infighting and far more obnoxious people on both sides.

>I don't know anything about the topic in question but I'm sure based on other trash boards you're just wrong lol

people like you are why those boards are so shit to begin with

BOTW has ruined all open world games like Witcher 3 and HZD for me.
Bought Horizon Zero Dawn on release and I've put maybe 15-20 hours into it. I played BOTW then went back to HZD. I cant take it seriously after BOTW.
I was constantly jumping against random walls to try and climb them
I was constantly venturing into strange and difficult-to-access parts of the map and being disappointed when there's nothing there, not even a Korok Seed OR something to discover
I was also constantly marveling at how good the weather animation is in HZD, but keep expecting to be struck by lightning during every storm. I felt no fear or nothing wherever I was.
And when I go back to MGSV to try and finish it, or Blood and Wine, or Xenoblade Chronicles X... it's the same damned thing.
Breath of the Wild has really ruined open world games for me. Nintendo has set a brand new standard, and it is just too, too high.
Nintendo has literally set a new fuckin standard. Open world skyrim clones literally don't feel the same after this game, this game will be remembered 10 years down the line. Honestly, I'm left unsatisfied by how empty other games are. The focus on hyperinteractivity in the environment has changed open world forever.
Anyone else know this feel?

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Remember when he made fun of Arkham city five years ago but now he eats up every button-awesome pretentious Western AAA "experience"?

Based and redpilled

>The Plateau is a perfect microcosm of just about everything BotW has to offer

The Plateau doesn't even have a fraction of what the rest of the game offers and only introduces you to the most basic mechanics. Even stuff like the very few cooking materials and basic ass bokoblins are completely barebones compared to what you can find/encounter outside of the Plateau, as are the shrine puzzles and environmental puzzles.

What am I looking at?

I avoid following the blimp closely but this comes as no surprise. I knew the instant I saw his cringe videos he was born to sell out.

That makes sense for shit like Dark Souls if you are a lore fag, what kind of enjoyment do you get from going behind some brown polygons?

I literally said I hate the game

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>The Plateau doesn't even have a fraction of what the rest of the game offers
stopped reading there

>The Plateau is a perfect microcosm of just about everything BotW has to offer, provides a decent challenge, and constantly rewards the player
You are actually brainwashed to only enjoy games that give you a constant reward system for minor tasks.

I like him because he's based, albeit a based retard

He probably does it for free.
At least he isn't as bad of a sellout as Jontron

"Entering buildings" doesn't inherently have any meaning in the way that entire towns obviously do. The former doesn't even begin to compare to the latter.

Dunkey is always right. JRPGs are all trash and so is Kingdom Farts.

that doesn't even work because dark souls is all about finding shit in weird places, the "lore" is all from items which you have to find anyway

it's like if you played dark souls and just wandered aimlessly around anor londo for the "experience," you're not fucking doing anything you're literally a tourist sightseeing.

if we are talking about terms of freedom and intelligent, mature game design then absolutely

You're so fucking dumb user. Get off your fucking computer and go for a fucking hike in the woods.

Don't be obtuse.

I love how "rewards" became a trigger word for BotW's diehard defenders due to it being such a common complaint.
Also, nothing about that post even remotely suggested that.

Good thing my argument had nothing to do with my dick, like yours.

Bullshit. I hit the invisible wall while playing, and you can also glide into it.
Faggot

Collecting items is part of the core Dark Souls experience. If someone purposefully went out of their way to grind to complete a specific build, then that would be extrinsically motivated.

Shit, so if I made a game where the ending was literally right behind you when you spawned in, but the world in front of you offered you basically nothing but endless exploring filled with nothing, that'd be intelligent and mature game design?

Okie dokie. Blame rare posters for this state of this board then. Its totally not Yea Forums's fault. ;)

It's the pic you posted, don't act high and mighty now

A common complaint from those who require constant positive reinforcement maybe.

I don't understand how people can pretend that Nintendo ever does anything new or groundbreaking when they're the company who has pretty much been remaking the same few games over and over since the gamecube.

Not him but I like taking a stroll though the woods as much as anybody however I wouldn't call it exploration.

They really are trash. They were amazing when I was a kid because it was a novel idea and for whatever reason I actually enjoyed boring turn based games. Maybe I just had more of an attention span back then I don't know but JRPG's haven't done anything interesting since the Ogre Battle series.

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That was the only part in that game that I didnt get. RDR2 was overall one of the most engrossing games Ive ever played. But Chapter 5 really made me wonder why it was even there.

youtu.be/rRbSoOJ5gxE

>penultimate

Kingdom Hearts is gay, but JRPGs are a pleb filter. If you can't appreciate a good old JRPG you're probably a normie or have ADD, in either case, KYS immediately.

Is it the second to last open world experience?

>penultimate

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based

>good old JRPG
If you mean FF8 or Xenogears I agree

If you mean FF7 I don't

>I'm going to ignore your argument and just focus on your image

no.

Its empty and kind of boring.

What myself and everyone else imo are getting at, is that it's in mankinds nature to just explore and find things. Obviously in human history conquest came with that too, but there is definetly an underlying nature of adventure in people.

Hence why BotW was pretty on the nose, it was just adventuring and exploring a well designed world.

Yeah, what a fucking dumb cunt

Kinda cringe the amount of attention this game got with its incredibly mediocre endgame, just cos Nintendo I guess. He probably said this halfway through when everything was new and didn't realise you can kill ganon in less than a minute, as soon as I did the trial of the sword and beat ganon I dropped the game immediately, rdr is very easily the better open world game

>exploring
There is nothing to find.

Yes, if you get sexually attracted to a game character then your opinions are biased and cannot be trusted. Same way I wouldn't trust a guy with foreign policy who married a chinese woman

Building a PC these days only takes a modicum of effort though? It's just a screwdriver and knowing where to plug in what, maybe an anti-static wristband if you're paranoid.

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You're exaggerating. Constantly being rewarded for menial tasks is just as bad as hardly ever being rewarded, especially when those rewards are mostly useless.
People tend to like their efforts yielding some type of fruit. That applies to everything they do, not just video games.

whoever told you that is an idiot, the video is from like 2007

Exploring in BotW actually leads to a bunch of gameplay-related activities though, even if the inventory reward you get from it is often inconsequential. The entire point is finding something and being able to interact with it.

no, morrowind is

Do you need rewards for watching a film or reading a book?
The fruit of your effort is experiences the work of the genius artists at Nintendo.
The reward of completing a puzzle is experience the puzzle

this is the fifth thread in the past couple days, why are you letting a e-celeb live in your head rent free like that user?

Leave it to Yea Forums to suck Nintendo's cock for making an honestly underwhelming game. There's a word BotW has nothing to do with, "honest". Nothing about this game's design is honest in the least. The plateau gets your hopes up but the game never advances beyond what's introduced here. So the game reuses the same tricks over and over and hopes you won't notice how much hollower it is than even the worst 3D Zelda (discounting BotW, of course), Twilight Princess.

>b-but the gameplay loop is satisfying and exploring is its own reward

"No!"

Rewarding your efforts is something even the first Zelda got right, Korok seeds are a hollow reward, mirroring the game's design. Yes, discovering something the first few times can feel a little good but anyone with a triple digit IQ will soon realize every effort they make to traverse the game's empty world for a split-second dopamine rush when you finally find a half-interesting landmark is worthless when the game throws at you another worthless weapon or another pointless Korok seed. One thing I left unmentioned is the complete lack of satisfying dungeons, but it's one of the game's largest problems. The puzzles are lackluster but their largest issue is their lack of identity. The brown, unremarkable walls characteristic of each Divine Beast are such a far cry from the likes of the Shadow Temple from OoT or Stone Tower Temple. It makes you miss even the otherwise middling Lakebed Temple from TP, and that's saying something. You are free to respond to my post, I give permission, but just know I will not respond back; I've carefully considered and tempered my opinion so I know it's as right as an opinion can possibly be.

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>I'm going to assume you're sexually attracted to a character to further ignore your argument
>if I don't address the argument, then I never lose! I'm such a genius

>explore and find things
That's an answer to his isn't it? Could have just said that.

>People tend to like their efforts yielding some type of fruit.

And in Breath of the Wild, those yields are:

Upgraded health
Upgraded stamina
Upgraded inventory space
New weapons
New armor
Upgraded armor
Rupees
Cooking materials
Etc.

>save porn pic and post it
>But I don't find it sexy!
Okay tardo

>break a weapon beating 50th bokoblin camp
>open unlocked chest
>duh duh duh duhhhhh
>You have received Arrows x5!

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AC: Oddysey

It's nearly a perfect game but the GPS system is utter trash and makes the jank shit incredibly frustrating, it's kinda got that oblivion effect where you like it anyway because the writing and quests are good but it has flaws

No, he doesn't.

>this game will be remembered 10 years down the line
the sequel will erase any reason it has to play it
>adding dungeons
>removing the sheikah tech garbage and going back to fantasy
>no towers
the only other thing they could change is getting rid of that awful Link design

becaus in BotW the open world is the soul of the game in the other games (like TW3, RDR2, FC etc etc) open world is only masturbation these game can work without open world meme, but BotW can't work without the open world

Pjared is actually a pedo AND a cuck (he was in a new age polywhatever relationship)

Every open world game has that to some degree.

You don't exert any effort into reading or watching a film. You do that for easy entertainment.

>The reward of completing a puzzle is experience the puzzle
I would actually agree with this, if the puzzles were difficult. I would still have to wonder what their ultimate purpose was in the narrative and question the flawed game design, but if the puzzles provided a good challenge that gave a feeling of accomplishment after beating them, then there's at least that.
But they weren't. I got sick of them after doing a few dozen and the rest felt like a slog. You always knew exactly what you were getting into.

Based AC:Odyssey poster

>especially when those rewards are mostly useless

>Ubisoft, EA, Rockstar, etc. have been making open world games for a decade or even longer
>genre is stagnating
>Nintendo shows up
>having no background in AAA 3D open world development, they decide on a whim "Here, let me try that"
>right off the bat, Nintendo make the best open world game ever made on their very first attempt using a fucking toaster.

This will never not be hilarious.

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What the fuck happened to intrinsic reward in vidya?
BotW is fun because exploring is fun. Shield surfing is fun. Combat is fun unless you're playing like a total baby minmaxing bitch afraid to experiment or challenge yourself because you're unbelievably scared of losing muh precious weapons.
Why the fuck does every game nowadays have to "reward" exploration? Or fuck, why does anything you do in a game HAVE to have a direct reward? The best games are the games that are just fun to play or fuck around with even if you're not actually making any sort of "progress".

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keep saying it

Makes you think that it's not the quality but the fanbase that defines nintendo

how many times has this bait been posted

I agree with you, but this detracts from the rest of your post:
>You are free to respond to my post, I give permission, but just know I will not respond back; I've carefully considered and tempered my opinion so I know it's as right as an opinion can possibly be.

Weapon durability is a cancer and you're a fucking faggot.

>is worthless when the game throws at you another worthless weapon or another pointless Korok seed

This is wrong. If you enjoyed the experience getting there, it by definition wasn't worthless. Only instant-gratification zoomers give a shit about pointless trinkets. If you're not exploring for actual gameplay oriented rewards, you're not earnestly playing anything at all.

Dopamine reactors numb from playing too many Ubisoft games that reward you for pausing the game and other frivolous bullshit

>this autist again.

Holy crap. Go outside. Have sex. BoTW isn't everything.

>The best games are the games that are just fun to play or fuck around with even if you're not actually making any sort of "progress".
Stopped reading there. You're honestly retarded.

Its not the fact you can go anywhere you fucking retard its the fact the means of movement make full use of the environment and the environment itself can be used for many other tasks its both a environmental and mechanical sandbox that pulls it off better than just cause as more thought was put into level design

I played tons of open world games, I somewhat like the genre since GTA3, but I played semi open world games since the first Zelda on NES. Anyway, BotW is the best one by far imo, it's far better than stuff like Far Cry 3 or AssCreed. The game is just fun as fuck for an open world game, it doesn't feel like a chore to play unlike most other open world games. It's still an 8/10 and overrated as fuck, but everything else is a 7 at best.
Unless they somehow fuck it up, if they refine the BotW formula for the sequel, they could make a milestone game in the same tier as OOT.

you can climb like an ant and glide like a flying squirrel, stop acting like that's groundbreaking material. it almost makes traversal worse in how easy and simple it becomes

t. dopamine addict smoothbrain

No, fuck you. If you're game isn't fun until you start getting a bunch of stupid fucking "LOOK AT YOU YOU DID IT HERE'S FIVE GOLD COINS AND AN ACHIEVEMENT" messages, your game is AIDS. Games that are inherently fun are always superior to games that are only "fun" because they hit you with a bunch of shitty affirmation.

Other open worlds don't really do environmental interaction in the same unscripted manner BotW does it. That's what makes exploration in the game feel so special.

All of that applies to Gothic 1.

Okay, so here's the thing.
BotW is very, very far from a perfect game. It's got a lot of shit problems like glass weapons, only having the one aesthetic for shrines and the four dungeons, trivialized difficulty as soon as you find the goddamn Durian grove, etc. The lack of overall meaningful rewards for exploring the content other than the subjective value of just experiencing the content is probably the one that is most likely to crash someone's enjoyment of the game.

However, the reason people can still maintain that BotW shit all over the Open World genre is because of how it approached the player's ability to interact with the world, and how the focus is on the sense of exploration. The way the game is designed around the notion that "if you think this should work, it probably will" is extraordinarily satisfying. Even little details like the camera pulling way back from Link and, while always keeping his location on the screen obvious, deemphasizing him in favor of showing the world better goes a long way. BotW keeps getting held up as this paragon that all Open World should take cues from despite its flaws because, as a system, as a fundamental premise, it's an absolutely wondrous exemplification of how an Open World should work, that's only held back by the actual content of the world itself. People who played BotW and think about it mostly in terms of how it plays, and the promise of the fundamental system are going to be at odds with people who focus in on what playing actually gets you and how well the game fulfilled its premise. Basically, imagine if you had Mario, with his highly refined movement and platforming potential, but the levels themselves didn't have the chops to make full use of Mario.

Breath of the Wild 2 is probably going to get a lot of people to admit that Breath of the Wild had so many glaring flaws and didn't make the full use of its brilliant concept, because they're probably going to make much better use of it the second time around.

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Not everyone can amuse themselves for 80+ hours simply running around an open world for sake of running around an open world.
BotW does a great job of making you feel like you want to explore its world, but it does a horrible job of making the result of that exploration worthwhile. Even the final boss makes that obvious. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.

Well, I'm glad none of those rewards are useless.

maybe it's just me but the simple act of holding the control stick up and walking from one large structure to the other just isn't that exciting, especially when all that's waiting for me there are more breakable weapons, the same few enemy types I've been fighting for the past several hours, and maybe one or two shrines with yet another spirit orb waiting at the end. I expect a bit more from some of the best devs in the industry

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This literally proves the Donkey/Cuck bullshit is fake.

This nigger and his thot post videos like this daily, and in most videos you can clearly tell the face/hair/nose/chin isn't even similar to Leahs gremlin face.

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anyone have leah feet pics, they're hard to come by

Are there people that don’t have this?

Im talking about shit like coping down a tree and shooting it with a fire arrow to make a fireplace or hell even running into it on fire myself to make on

not some in menu bullshit mechanically it lets you take advantage of your environment in many different ways

I was pretty damn disappointed with botw, but I still have to disagree with you.
I don't know if they can be considered the "best" games and I would never say a game should be designed around it, but if you can have fun just dicking around in a game then it is doing something right.

>The best games are the games that are just fun to play or fuck around with even if you're not actually making any sort of "progress".
Damn too bad BotW's not one of those games. If anything, BotW leans more towards the "progress" sign than classic Zelda did because the game is filled with more stats and numbers and materials and other forms of "progress" than ever before.

But you're not "simply running around an open world for the sake of running around an open world". There are a shitload of things to find, do, and interact with in the game. You're only complaining because you didn't get a trinket, which is a shallow complaint that demonstrates you were never actually interested in the gameplay.

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Yeah dudes if I can't have any fun at the beginning of the level then the game is garbo. I shouldn't have to progress through the level to enjoy myself.

Keep saying it

those pants can barely contain leahs vagina bones

Nice.