Why wont Nintendo buy the Banjo-Kazooie IP? Clearly Rare doesn’t give a shit about them

was the Banjo reveal trailer the best we've got so far?
>re-do of the K.Rool trailer as a great comedic device
>comfy K.Rool chilling with the kongs
>jiggy to weed out the overreacting fake fans
>Duck Hunt holding the duck by the neck while laughing like a NES psycho maniac
>kongs and R.Rool maniacally cheering for his bro
>K.Rool being BTFO as a recreation of Gruntilda's defeat

The only thing is is that I feel kind of bad for K rool. He was chilling and was happy to see Banjo, \why he got to be Grunty'd?

Banjo and Kazooie were paid in jiggies by Dedede to assassinate K. Rool.

why do these assholes keep coming to DK's place just to fuck with them?
>Dedede pretending to be K.Rool
>Duck Hunt pretending to be Banjo

They haven't seen each other in 2 decades. They probably didn't get the memo. Plus, K. Rool can take a hit.

Best case would be to develop a game that’s on Switch and Xbox, but it would have to be dev’d by a 3rd party cuz Nintendo would never make a game for Xbox

Wll D3's a jerk so there's that. and Duck Hunt was always a cunt so nothing new there.

>mfw all the fake reacting YouTubers who either don’t say anything about the Jiggy or just say “what’s that from?” Then suddenly have a crazy reaction

Banjo-Kazooie was actually owned by Nintendo before the buyout.
They gave so little fucks about it they just gave it to Rare when they went with Microsoft; in exchange of Chunky Kong, Lanky Kong and Tiny Kong.

Fuck Banjo & Kazoooie, Nintendo should pick up the Blinx IP Microsoft abandoned years ago and make a new game from that. Much more interesting possibilites and much cheaper.

They have enough platforming franchises

>huh? who's that?
>title card appears
>2 seconds later
>OH MY GOD IT'S FUCKING SIMON BELMONT AAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>that guy who refereed the jiggy as *The BK money thingy*

The team that made them formed Playtonic Games. They are not dead.

>the devs that made Yooka-Laylee
Yeah, they're dead.

just let the 3d Mario team make it

Why not let a good thing stay a good thing and leave it alone?

fuck banjo, why don't they get insomniac games to make a new conker game? I don't know if any of the old ratchet writers and developers are still around but if they are I think they'd do it justice

Nostalgiabux is a fickle market, they don't want to take the investment just to end up with a game that doesn't sell because everyone got over the honeymoon phase like a month or two after the announcement.

It'll lack that cheeky Brit charm that Rare was known for, though, and that's part of what gave the series its identity and memorability.

it's funny how stevefags know more about banjo than most youtubers, as they recognised the jiggy and their defeat right away
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They announced their new game like a week ago. Definitely not dead.
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so then who else could do it? all the studios that made good silly platformers are either dead or focusing on AAA movie games

Please tell me you're under the age of 21 so there is still hope for Yea Forums.

But it's true. The market for nostalgia is not a lasting one and is made up primarily of impulse buys.

At this point I can see a Xbox/switch b&k game

Only 3 of the orginal devs are a part of it

Why doesn't Nintendo buy the Pokémon IP? Clearly GameFreak doesn't give a shit about it.

Not at all. Mario was more about movement and platforming while Banjo is more about exploring and puzzle solving.

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ill kill you bitch

>Because the team that made them is dead, and nobody could truly replicate them, so they will be left dead forever.
Goldfish attention span

Pokemon is aimed at kids mostly, so looking like shit is not a problem as of today.

Nintendo already owns a considerable portion of the Pokemon Company so they might as well have joint ownership.

I dont want Nintendo touching Banjo. We all know they won't give it the Mario treatment, they are gonna either half ass the game, or pass it to someone else who will either make a worse game or better depending on the studio. The only studio I would trust with Banjo is Retro, but they have so much on their plate as it is.

>Joker watching Banjo hang on for dear life, possibly hinting that Joker stole his invitation from BK.

I'm not saying he isn't, I'm asking his age.

This isn't completely true. Banjo-Kazooie was always a Rare-owned property, but Nintendo at the time owned 49% of Rare, with the other 51% belonging to the Stampers. They had some kind of contract where they would work exclusively with Nintendo for a few years, where at the end Nintendo would have the option of buying them outright - however, Nintendo didn't end up following through, for whatever reason that might be. The Stampers shopped around and sold their shares off to Microsoft, after which Nintendo sold their stake in Rare to Microsoft since they didn't want minority ownership of a studio owned by a competitor.

I don't know the specifics of how the rights to the DKC games works, but the IP itself is and always was wholly owned by Nintendo - every character, song and location belongs to them. I assume Rare/Microsoft are entitled to a cut of the sales, though, considering Phil Spencer said that they work with Nintendo when they want to re-release those games. All DKC games are Nintendo-owned, though, with the exception of Diddy Kong Racing, which was developed as an installment in Rare's R.C. Pro-Am series and got Diddy Kong branding at Miyamoto's suggestion/approval, but whose ownership Rare retained.

>Other character from Mario Univerve
What next? Geno

I feel buying the IP would change little outside of guaranteeing Banjo would return in future Smash games. (Judging by what Phil Spenser had to say on the topic, it wouldn't be a big deal anyway). Nintendo's also allowed many good IP to collect dust. Pic related, Advance Wars, Golden Sun. Nintendo would probably make one game, and if it doesn't sell 2 million in a year, it's dead.

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If a new Banjo game got made what studio would you want to make it? I think Retro or next level games would do a good job.

>the team
LIKE THREE PEOPLE
>Audio director was Grant Kirkhope which is why his own voice had so much influence in the game's design. Yooka Laylee's was some guy whose only other game was Arkham Knight as a junior sound designer, while Grant just composed some songs.
>Gregg Mayles also had a huge role in the design of the Rareware games, he stayed at Rare and his younger brother is the artist at Playtonic.
>Tim and Chris Stamper don't work in the video game industry anymore and they founded Rareware
>Why is the game not funny? Writer is a literally who, Yooka was his first video game project.

because Nintendo is saving up for the real prize.

40 Winks.

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Not worth of investment. Banjo isn't that popular series, they would not get their money's worth when buying it from microjews.

Jokes on them, I don't know a damn thing about Minecraft. Then again neither do they.

>Nintendo buys Rare IPs and the Rare name from Microsoft
>new Rare company merges with Retro to form Retro-Rare
A man can dream.

Banjo does litterally everything better than mario 64 including platforming

I still can't believe that Microsoft bought Rare thinking they'd get Donkey Kong as an IP, and they're one of the biggest corporations out there. To think that Banjo fans had to suffer almost 20 years, including Nuts & Bolts and Steveposting, just because a corporation unironically didn't understand IP law.

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What does it matter?

Post it nigger, and don't lie.

23.

Well, they force their political views on people. They can go die in a fire.

>I still can't believe that Microsoft bought Rare thinking they'd get Donkey Kong as an IP, and they're one of the biggest corporations out there.
That also probably isn't true. I've heard the story as well, but I think it was just one exec among many sent to visit Rare that wasn't overly-familiar with video-games, who saw the Donkey Kong merch they had around and assumed that it meant they owned that as well. I don't think Microsoft went into it genuinely thinking they were buying DK when they weren't.

Mario Odyssey was Nintendo's BanjoKazooie

Too old. Sadly most people don't think like you.

It's fucking LEGO what is there to know?

Because Nintendo has pretty much zero use for them aside guest starring in Smash. Nintendo owns a lot of popular mascots already, far more popular than BK including their flagship series.
Look at this way, Nintendo would have to buy the IP and would have to put money and effort for the IP to sell well including promotion and having a team dedicated to it. It's a lot more of an investment than creating a new IP from scratch.because at least with the new IP you don't have to pay for it and the team working on it acquires a sense of ownership to the IP.
With crappier controls? Nah.

They didn't do a good job with the collectibles and the platforming left more to be desired

They know it ain't actually worth shit and they'll still get the games

Seeing these characters realized in current tech is doing too much to my childhood nostalgia. I loved these games so much as a kid, fuck I want a true sequel so bad bros.

Banjo-Kazooie still have more personality than like 90% of the characters in Smash and they've only had two good games from like 20 years ago.

I want an F-Zero game so fucking bad...
>but you have Mario kart
Yeah, but F-Zero is 400x faster, and more exhilarating to play.
I like moving so fast, straight corridors feel like obstacles. I did what Sonic couldn't, go fast.

I don't want modern nintendo making bk

look at luigis mansion 2

Nintendo stabbed them and left them to bleed out in the first place. Microsoft called an ambulance and they've been in ICU ever since

mario doesn't do the exploration platformer thing anymore. bk was always the best exploration platformer

You're thinking of Sony.

They played a game of Smash and he lost to Jinjonator.

Most of the talent left Rare before they were sold by Nintendo.

I don't think you get what he means by dead. Yooka was shit.

Diddy Kong Racing is actually more-so in legal limbo much like Goldeneye. Nintendo owns Diddy Kong and the game itself, while Rare owns the original characters and Banjo and Conker.

With DKC and DK64, Nintendo owns the characters, scenario, music, etc of the games, but Rare owns the code of the games.

Nintendo never owned any part of BK, Conker, Battletoads, or Perfect Dark.

Look at Luigi's Mansion 3

The I would be fine with just Nintendo buying BK and letting Retro do its magic. I feel if a company merger were to happen with rare and retro the game wouldn’t turn out as good and is unnecessary. At this point their old IPs don’t need the Rare name, just a competent developer

>Nintendo would treat the IP better
Bear would be just as dead in Nintendo's hands Anything else is delusion. They only really care about Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

Nintendo has enough dead IPs as it is
no an IP showing up in Smash does not mean that it isn't dead

is banjo a metroidvania?
you get abilities, use them to explore new areas, open up new areas, get new abilities, rinse and repeat

i'd unironically play banjo-kazooie odyssey

I wouldn't mind them selling the Banjo IP to Gears for Breakfast

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>Mario Odyssey

is empty and boring

cringe

Nigger did you even play Odyssey?

Banjo is still better though

Not sure if Japs have ever shown interest in picking up after gaijin scraps other than Wizardry

>explore new areas, open up new areas
as in get jiggies to unlock new areas with new abilities in them
felt the need to rephrase

we don't need trannyflags in bk

Why can't people separate a fanbase from the product itself anymore?

>half of streamers literally just called it a "puzzle piece"

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I don't need mental illness in my game about anthropomorphic talking animals

Maybe Tooie, but you can beat every level in BK in one go IIRC. All the powers you need are contained within the levels. So no backtracking required other than to fill in paintings earlier in the lair

Herobrine xDDD

Eh, when I first saw it I didn't get a good look and thought it was a key. Then again I never played Banjo.

As I recall, between the snow world and the desert, both of them had a shoe powerup that was necessary to beat something in the other stage.

except for the race in freezey peak, which requires the speed shoes

Yeah, it never happened before.
>kid icarus.

If they keep political shit out of it, maybe.

You're right, I forgot about that. I haven't played the game in over a decade, and I just started replaying it yesterday but I'm not at that part yet.
I still wouldn't exactly classify it as a metroidvania though, because the backtracking is very minimal and isn't a core focus of the game

>getting this assblasted over a flag
Sorry I didn't realize this was your safespace

parts of the overworld are metroidvania, then they block you off with skills you aquire later. this could be expanded on.

Oh god I just remembered that. If they brought BK back in this day an age, it'll probably be full of political shit left and right.

>same genre
>bootleg
retard

>streamers are casual garbage
color me shocked

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That was because Sakurai himself wanted to do it.

Did the last 20 years of Microsoft's incompetence just get lost on you while you were off walking the void somewhere?

trannies are not real. they are mentally ill and need help.

The only time it ever had influence was Melee, where it had a handful, and then with Brawl the only franchise that got anything was Kid Icarus, and then after that Smash basically stopped having any influnece to get new franchises for characters it rep'd

don't worry, just wait another 80 years (or more) and Banjo will be in the public domain :)

the controls are hard to get used to, but when you master them you fucking master them, Banjo has a lower bar but not as high of a ceiling, not that it's needed because it's overall a pretty laid back game, Mario 64 can be a little more cruel.

when need a version of this image but with an American girl

zer0 had the fakest reaction of anyone. i hate that fat greasy fuck

When has a big company ever just bought IPs like that?

Please give it to someone else. After seeing Microsoft's version of Battletoads I don't want them to touch BK. Ever.

>look at luigis mansion 2

But 3 looks amazing

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this is a marketing meme, they have a handful of people at best and very few of the people involved with BK had anything to do with Yooka-Laylee. Most notably the lead developer of BK and Tooie Gregg Mayles was absent and you can feel it.

I hope they make a better DKC clone than they did a BK clone because YL was just not good.

Ms didn't really have anything to do with the battletoads design. From what i heard after the first trailer from last year,ms gave the devs complete creative control

This isn't a Smash thread. Get that shit out of here

>YL was just not good

It's my "fuck you I liked it" game

besides a small niche of manchildten, nobody gives a shit about this ugly IP either

Look man, I fucking love Banjo, but the Rusty Bucket Bay engine room proves you completely wrong. The entire reason that room is considered a total nightmare is because of how clunky and slow the actual platforming in Banjo-Kazooie is, and is also the main reason why there's not a single other area in the game with platforming like that. The game would be borderline unplayable.
Meanwhile if you ripped that room from the game and stuck it into Mario 64 or any other Mario game it would be an absolute cake walk, because those sorts of obstacles are standard in Mario games and his moveset is designed to overcome them.
You need to accept that both SM64 and BK do some things better than one another, neither game excels in every area and there's honestly not a lot of overlap.

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Because they can't outsell James Bond or Donkey Kong even in their heyday. People severely overestimate the selling power of this brand. Especially considering Nintendo already has most of the biggest and still kicking platforming series.

but since everything's connected by a hub instead of being interconnected, wouldn't that be a strike against the games being metroidvanias?

>they can't outsell James Bond or fucking Donkey Kong
Shocking