What is the best city builder? is it pic?

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melikes Surviving Mars, but it's not really a city builder
SC4 rapes Cities Skylines in everything but traffic simulation, and even then both need mods to have kinda proper traffic

yes with NAM since it fixes traffic

Looks like shit user ngl

weird way to name Pharaoh

I am reinstalling it now. Any must have mods besides NAM?

Wait a minute, that's not Emperor

Cities Skylines is much more up to date, but it's more of a city painter than a city builder. Only transport has depth

Yes

reminder that this game is from 2003 and still looks fresh.

There's that Hulk game where you can bring down buildings in NYC
I think that it's an interesting concept to pair with city building or at least one with no resource management restrictions, so like a side thing. It'll be like kicking a sandcastle for fun after building it up

isn't there some japanese disaster management sim or something?

>is it pic?
Absolutely not, the traffic pathfinding straight up ruins the game.

how do you guys build or make a good piece of land? always has me confused when starting out and I don't really like the default lands

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enjoy

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don't they have mods that fixes that?

Would be nice to have a modern city building game that focuses more on the macro scale and doesn't try to simulate every single person shitting itself with a limit way too soon.

no I meant like the terrain, is there any way to generate that instead of having to make it yourself? maybe even tips on making terrain?

google it, I forgot how to do it but you can import grayscale height map images directly into game to make maps out of them

I was afraid you'd say that, it's the only problem I have with the game really

Yes.
It's funny how FAGGOTS STILL THINK SKYLINES IS GOOD WHEN IT;'S REALLY JUSTY A FUCKING CITY PAINTER

there are lots of terrains to download.

gay

Being brken as fuck isnt deoth

I always stop playing cities skylines when I reach 20.000 population. It gets too stale. Is SimCity better?

>want to reinstall SC4
>check out the mod sites
>almost all of them are dead

dammit, I wanted my comfy farming mods

simcity 4 is better in every FUCKING WAY

3k is good too

fuck man the music is sooooooooooooooooooooo goiod

3k is jazz and electronica while 4 is prerty unique i dont kiniow of it has a genre, maybe modernism conmbined withj electrinbonic music and a light touch of jazz? bohmenian city jam side street jam is pure jazz though

mods are gay

Talking about the SPAM mod? You can get it from Simtropolis nowadays.

Based and correctpilled

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I wonder if the simcity 2013 designer user killed himself yet.

Absolutely.

>t. can't into basic traffic and transport systems

From what I could tell, the designers of SimCity 2013 included Ocean Quigley who was with Maxis since the SimCity 4 days. I do remember reading that EA wouldn't fund it without the online component, and the problems with that basically destroyed the program, dealing with all the online components instead of the more ambitious things planned.

i still havern't bughht that peice of shit because it's always too expeoisve but oeople say iut's acvtuallty a quite fun game us6t thaty the cities are too small

hwat do you think?>

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>almost 20 years later and we still haven't gotten a better city builder than sc4
why is the game industry so gay

I guess I can do that, but most of them are referenced off of other places and I don't really enjoy that. I prefer the Tropico way where it has an in-house terrain generator with tweaking. Thanks a lot though, user

>Talking about the SPAM mod? You can get it from Simtropolis nowadays.
really? thanks
can you also get the industrial harbor mods there as well? One of the things I disliked about 4 was how you only have the seaport ploppable without mods
and with mods I remember being able to make these giant industrial docklands

>tyaking the shortest path no matter what is good design

imahgine being this retyarded lmoa

YOU WILL REGRET THIS

Are there any city builders/traffic sims that properly model how most drivers are idiots?

schpimschcpitty spchNES seems fun

you gayboys played itr?

simcity 4 and gaycityieis gaylines are broken as fuck with gay AI so yeah rthoughse

Are these games tough? I've heard that if one thing goes wrong your city falls like dominos

You can download maps people made on simtropolis.

they're shite so don't bother

play simcity 4 instead

How C:S handles traffic is incredibly bad. This is evident in highways, when there's a ramp with heavy traffic coming onto a freeway, the traffic doesn't get bad AFTER it comes on, it slows BEFORE the exit because everyone is trying to slam on their breaks because there are too many cars entering the freeway. The proper solution is to build a longer merging lane (you can easily see this action through even a simple traffic simulator you can run in a web browser) while many cities opt for putting a light at the ramp to monitor the traffic going on. Combine that with Cities: Skyline's other bad features (wrong lanes, no dedicated turn lights, etc.) and you've got a massive clusterfuck of a traffic simulation. Mods can mitigate this problem somewhat but once you get mods into the equation, you're not discussing the games on equal merits.

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god I wish there was a proper sequel to SC4
or heck just a remake that takes advantage of modern computer hardware and maybe natively incorporates NAM

>t. 20% traffic flow

ima>imagining blimps as a real tranmsofmrp[ort options

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well I haven't played that in a while so maybe I will

Is there a fix to crashing during saving on win7 and losing progress? It's a complete dealbreaker.

Cities: Skylines is the best city building game, in terms of seeing it come alive and how intricate you can make it.

Simcity 4 modded is the best city simulation, though

just make surre youi enjoy the music

Yes, Network Addon Mod (NAM)

i';ve literally got ovber 90m playtime on schpeme and like this has literazll never happened to me and i've been plauying since release

have you eer considered thsyt you may be reyarded>? itps okay i don't judge

Oh yeah, change the affinity to a single core. That's literally all it is.

Please kill youself.

Single core affinity.

But he's right. Nearly every single in America has a freeway or faster road around the downtown district, or otherwise replacing a highway. The freeway is going to add extra miles as it goes around, but while technically shorter, the "city" way go has much slower speeds and at least one stop. Braindead traffic sims that think "shortest route=best route" basically take every single car off the freeway into the city road, creating massive traffic jams. SimCity (2013) was notorious for doing this, and Cities Skyline functions similarly.

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I am an entire region of nothing but farms

sounds like coding speed is too much work for them

use the SPAM mods for that, they drastically increase the amount of different types of farms and rural buildings

>still can't set arbitrary speed limits, then plant traffic cams everywhere
C'mon let me be "that asshole" of a major

sc4 without nam does it too
that's what makes gaylines so annoying
they had a decade of knowledge and made the EXact same fucking mistake

Reminder that NAM doesn't fix the bug where your sims will be stuck in an endless loop trying to get to work in another city.

kys nigger

That's the single reason I've never made a super region-city

you need to organise the roads in your cities in a weird fork shape so they just flow from one side of the region to another and then on into the abyss

it can fuck the entire region if they try and go in circles

really? never knew about this

Large scale simcity 4 design is an utterly broken and fucked beast

honestly regions are a mistake and SC3k was the best

I wish I was dead lmao

SimCity 4 without NAM was based on "steps", where highways could do longer "steps" based on higher speeds but if the number of "steps" exceeded the a set distance between people and their jobs the trip would "fail" and things would end up abandoned.

What is life but an excuse to PLAY VIDEO GAMES?

Basically, your sims will try to take the quickest route to a job and if you position your roads/rail/subway too close to a city connection they'll go in a circle trying to get to a job.
The best way to prevent it is to only have cities connecting one way (north/south or east/west) and have jobs near the city connections.

Leet me tell you the real joke

You can run Simcity 3K in 4K resolution with no issues but 4 can only do it in software mode with massive graphical distortion.

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someone talk to me

i don't want to be alone

How does that work? They go on paths away from the connectors?

no they lose their state when they cross city lines

The one with the best soundtrack is SC3k.
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Also,
>Take a screenshot of a game
>Can't upload it because it's 1440p
1440p is gradually becoming the standard resolution. It's time to increase the limit.

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>The one with the best soundtrack is SC3k
Also the best gameplay, the simulation actually worked unlike 4 but it had more features and QoL improvies from 2000.

hi

>transport has depth

its utter shit unless you use mods

Simcity 3000 was my first entry into Simcity. Also it's underrated as hell.

>best soundtrack
>not magic city
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not sim city, but still kino

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This.

SC4 has no neighbors. It's fucking retard making deals with cities which you own.

I have a few major problems with it.
1. I can't accept parades without being forced to spend 5 minutes watching them. Parades are good for the economy, and I want that bonus, but it's not worth the wasted time.
2. Every utility building eventually breaks down; there's no option to have them just automatically replace themselves when they reach the end of their life span. This would be fine if it were just power plants, but it's fucking everything. Recycling centers, incinerators, desalinization plants, water treatment plants. And worst of all, water pumps. I spend so much time just replacing goddamn water pumps. What's worse is that when they go, they also take out the water pipes underneath them. I had the simulation on fast speed and suddenly my population dropped by about 90%. Turns out a water treatment plant broke down and took out the water pipes that connected the pumps to the whole city.
3. The way it handles elderly citizens and the "wave of death" is very weird. I had a sudden downturn where my population kept getting lower and lower, and demand for each zone type was as low as it could go. None of my advisors had any advice; they said everything was fine. As it turns out, the game uses the percentage of people working as a sort of metric to determine whether people want to move to the city. As citizens become elderly, no one wants to move in to replace them in the work force. The best solution? Just cut all funding to healthcare for a while. All the elderly people will die off and then the city will start growing again.