Buy new game

What game?

I just live in an old ass building with shitty copper that won't let me get anything substantially faster than 40/20 (I could get 100 downstream by sacrificing upload, but I don't want that because 10Mbit upload sucks). No data caps though.

Spider-Man

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That's the install you retard. The whole game disc is copied to the HDD. This is the actual update.

This shit drives me crazy. Fucking patch fags kept turning a blind eye to the ever growing updates and now it's to the point that patches are now just the entire game being downloaded.

Then why was it downloading stuff during the install?

>Then why was it downloading
It clearly says copying though.

It says copying. It is installing the game onto your hard drive.

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I checked my router's graphs and it was downloading stuff all through the process. Maybe they run a parallel download for some parts of it to speed up the copying? I don't know.

100gbs for Battlefront 2 is insane.

Blame Pcbros, they defended steam game discs downloading the entire game from valve servers.

>Buy game on Steam
>Download
>Play
Consoles sure are more convenient.

>I just live in an old ass building with shitty copper that won't let me get anything substantially faster than 40/20 (I could get 100 downstream by sacrificing upload, but I don't want that because 10Mbit upload sucks). No data caps though.

How bad is the internet in the UK?

It downloads the most recent patch at the same time as it installs the actual data on the disc.

You know you could just turn off your internet to make sure right? It isn't a download. You can play without internet. That was one of the big things with this system. You can even just skip update downloads if you want to.

You mean:
>Buy PC game in store
>Get home
>No actual disc in the box just a code
>Have to make a steam account
>Have to input code
>Have to download game
>play

While console:
>Go to store
>Buy game
>Put game in console
>Install
>play or download optional updates. Or just play while update downloads in the background and restart the game when it finishes downloading and you feel its an appropriate time to reboot the game.

They put new versions of most files, or they just start to download most files and the disc hast almost nothing on it. The first one is stupid and lazy bwcause why would you need versions of most files unless they did a pretty shitty job in the development cycle. The second one is just greedy as shit, and lazy.

>buying pc games in retail
nice try, but people havent done that for years

What the fuck are you playing that even needs a 45gb patch? Usually only the most casual trash has those.

Oh, so I have to make a steam account then:
>Have to make a steam account
>Have to input code
>Have to download game
>Have to install game
>play or download updates

>fuck i got caught talking shit
>uh... my um router graphs say...

You have to make an account on your console too.

Not at all.

No you dont

Welcome to the new generation of consoles. With all of the drawbacks of using a PC and none of the benefits.
I miss the plug and play era.

Have you seen Doom for PS4? You put in the disc and then have to download a 100GB patch.

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You really don't.

>Implying you have to make a steam account for every game
>Implying downloading the game isn't a million times faster than on consoles
>implying the updates aren't downloaded with the game installation
Try harder console niggers

Is it true that they don't put the game on the disc anymore?

tbf it's worth it, the unpatched version of doom sucks

on xbone you actually do, that console is a joke

of course they do

So if you want the PC experience to be better you need a 1gbit/s internet connection and you need to own a steam account ahead of time.
Got it.

Some publishers do this but none of the games I own suffer from it thankfully. I believe there's a Call of Duty game that only comes with a 100MB install on the actual disk and you have to download the entire game in order to play.

>on xbone you actually do, that console is a joke

Do you have to buy gold before playing?

>on xbone you actually do, that console is a joke
Are you fucking with me?

Lying niggers.

>Buying Multiplayer
>Buying Western games

No.
support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/using-xbox-one-offline
>You must be online when you set up Xbox One for the first time. Without an internet connection, you can’t finish setup. After your Xbox has updated and you’ve added your profile, you can go offline.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A FUCKING ACCOUNT TO START PLAYING ON A PS4

If I was lying Sony would be facing a class action lawsuit. This was one of the things that killed the Xbox one at launch. I thought they had reversed it around the launch of Xbox one but according to it seems to still be in effect.

Nigga I owned a PS4 for 4 years before I finally even connected it to the Internet. Everything worked fine.

I played it unpatched to avoid that shit, I dealt with screentearing and the game bugged out which gave me an undeserved gold trophy. It was great.

What the fuck

good luck OP, been trying to install spider man for 3 days, went through multiple disks , everytime it gets to 19gigs, it gives an error and cant install. iv tried every "fix" online and none of them work. it's just spiderman too. iv deleted and installed 5 other games and they work fine.

If I wasn't going to bed I'd explain the way PS4 game discs work in detail with copying patching and license verification.
So here's a tl;dr
>PS4 game disc is actually just a so for file
>This file is a mountable disc image
>It mounts virtually with license on disc or psn
>Once verified it decrypts on the fly removing the nest layer
>You now have all your files
>The disc is just to transport the same data you'd get off psn and be an offline license/key
>patches are also stored separately and applied on the fly
>Depending on how you handle patching you could download them incrementally (bought on release 1.00, patched 1.01, 1.02, 1.03 etc) or patch with a Delta package which just bundles all the shit into one big patch file to save some bandwidth so you don't need to download incrementally (got physical copy late in time 1.00, download to latest 1.47, skipping everything in between)

The patching system is neat but it has flaws. Appreciate that it even works as well as it does. At least with this you don't need to download a whole new XVD to patch the game which is basically a fucking virtual HDD (VHD), but with MS proprietary garbage in it

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>mfw 45gb would take me ~31 hours of uninterrupted download

Does Xbox One work the same way?

>western game
>2 hour download to start, 2 hour update, connect to always online servers, get kicked randomly, game takes up a fifth of your consoles memory
>japanese game
>plug in and be playing within 5 minutes, game takes the same amount of memory as a tamagotchi
Stop supporting the AAA game industry

This is why I gave up on modern PC gaming and just emulate or play older titles with sane filesizes. Not everyone has a stable internet connection and data caps are a thing in America. Why are modern devs so out of touch? Is optimization a lost art? They can go straight to hell with their 100gb games! As bad as it is here though I heard aussies have it even worse.

modern devs are trying to turn the industry into hollywood
they also have a loathing of poor/lower middle class, because that demographic won't swallow microtransactions as easely

PC Wins again!

>This is why I gave up on modern PC gaming and just emulate or play older titles with sane filesizes.
Ok go back to VR faggot.

PS3 patching system was a colossal pile of shit.
Not only did it have to download each patch individually but if you bought the game over PSN, you'd have to install that first before it can download the updates and install them one by one.

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I think the main issue is, it has become the norm for an almost 50 gig mandatory install with a 2 gig patch downloading in the background for every game you play now. I understand it has benefits, but waiting 20 minutes to play a game you just bought does seem a little backwards.

I am hoping when the next gen happens, installation (with upgraded Blu Ray-ROM drives) and SSD will cut down on this drastically

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Last decade isn't /vr/.

>consoles are easier because you just throw the disk in and play!!!
lol get fucked console retards

>PS3 patching system was a colossal pile of shit.

How did the Xbox 360 do it?

Xbone is a mess of nonsense when it comes to the UI and user-friendliness in general.
>Game installs the disk and the update at the same time.
>Even if the disk is fully installed but it's downloading the update you still need to keep the disk in or it won't install, taking the disk out even if it's just downloading an update causes it to pause the entire installation.
The way around this is to just not download the update until it's fully installed, but it's still idiotic. This means that if you're installing a game that's 40+ GB and it has an 80 GB patch you have to sit there doing nothing until all 120 GB are installed, assuming you agreed to the patch while it was installing.
>Can't transfer screenshots to a USB drive, it's either spam your friends with uploads onto XBL and then one-by-one download them with the W10 companion app, or upload them onto your OneDrive (Which has a 5 GB limit) and then manually pull them all off of there.
You can make an eternal source become the main target for screenshots and game clips, but you can't copy/move screenshots off the thing if they're on the machine, you can only upload or delete them.
>The "Ready to Install" section doesn't seem to immediately populate what's in your download list at all, it takes several days to catch up for some dumb reason unless it's DLC which is instantly available on the installed game's "Manage game add-ons" tab.
>If you install an add-on from a game you don't own you can't uninstall it at all until you install the game itself and then uninstall the entire thing.
>You can't backup your local saves to anything, it's all cloud based now.
>Trying to view your download list from the Microsoft Store app sends you to "My Games & Apps" which has a chance to simply not be populated or updated with your latest purchases.
They've had YEARS to fix this and it's still horrible, I don't understand.

>Just what the fuck do they even put on that disc if I still need to download 45 GB off the fucking internet when I pop it in?
the disc is made to fool old fashioned people like you who crave "phsical" media, but else has not other use.