>"A handful of popular streamers like Sodapoppin, Asmongold, Dafran, and Esfand are among those who can play, and they’re already the most visible presences in the beta. Some prospective players have gone so far as to swear off so-called “streamer servers” entirely. This largely stems from concerns that once WoW Classic is properly live, streamers’ fans will constantly mob them, obliterate everyone else in PVP through sheer numbers, overwhelm in-game economies, and generally make toxic nuisances of themselves."
>"As a result, some are worried that streamers will throw endless armies of fans at PVP, bosses, progression, economies, and more, monopolizing WoW Classic in a way that’s simply not possible in WoW as it is now. The Wild West feeling of early WoW, they fear, will be trampled by streamers immediately grabbing the spotlight and refusing to let go."
>"Sodapoppin proposed a controversial plan to discourage stream-sniping shenanigans in WoW Classic: a Horde and Alliance “blacklist.” He prefaced his idea by saying that he wishes people would just treat him like an anonymous player, but that’s not happening. And while he thinks it’s fine to kill streamers, he said that if somebody is obviously stream sniping—for example, moving exactly where he’s moving while stealthed—then they’ll get added to his list."
>"“I’ll take that person, and I’ll say, ‘OK, blacklist this person,’” he said. “My friends on the Alliance or other streamers don’t play with this person. They are never allowed in anything that the actual good guilds on the Alliance are doing. They are blacklisted. And it’s vice-versa as well. So you won’t get any good raids. You’ll never get any good gear. And eventually, if you want to keep stream sniping, you’ll be doing it while I have double your gear.”" You peasants better not kill any aristocrats or you'll never raid again.
I'm rolling on Asmon and Esfand's server and you can't stop me.
Ayden Diaz
mark my words, faggot. those streamers vastly underestimate how many enemies they made through the beta. it will be impossible for any of those to play on a PvP server. They will be forced to play on a pve server screencap this, nigger.
Angel Powell
If you want to remain anonymous then don't fucking stream you faggot.
Charles Kelly
These dumb streamer NIGGERS better not stop me from going home.
Levi Baker
Based sodapoppin will put all you degenerates into a blacklist and every normal player on the server, (players that don't want to streamsnipe) will complete ignore you. You will only play with other mentally ill retards and in a fewer days you will be so outleveled and outgeared you won't even be able to touch our great entertainers.
Easton Richardson
recruiting pvp players :^)
Henry Johnson
Blacklisting already existed in vanilla. Shit players were known serverwide and barred from endgame content and progression guilds
Robert Hernandez
>just don't get free money lmao
Chase Barnes
I'll be waiting for this
Noah Lopez
Being a shit player and killing annoying as fuck streamer once are absolutely not comparable.
Anthony Wilson
I don't know what they will do to impact them game after it's release all I know is that due to their constant streaming hype has actually died down considerably. Why the fuck did blizz make a 1000pop beta so many months before release? They actively sabotaged their product.
Jose Morales
When did Yea Forums became all about e-celebs, politics, clickbait articles and trying to trigger each other as much as you can (be it with larping as zoomer/boomer/certain type of game/political or just by pretending to be hateful/stupid)?
Joshua Ramirez
cope harder fucking zoomer, you will eat my cum out of his wrecked asshole when I am done with him
Jace Campbell
>screencap my retarded nonsense about a child's game ok fag *click*
Jace Hall
being a shit player and "bullying" a streamer are completely different things
Brandon Ramirez
>When did Yea Forums became all about [irrelevant annoyances of the day redacted] trying to trigger each other as much as you can since day 1, newfag
Oliver Bell
Since 2004 faggot.
Evan Thomas
Their investors probably requested solid proof of demand and then some seeing how it's a "you think you do but you don't" scenario
Noah Russell
>I just want to be an anonymous player to get my experience >However I will be running a blacklist if people punish me for not being an anonymous player
Yeah, they totally don't want to be internet divas or anything.
Jace Phillips
you niggers are glowing
Daniel Lee
The sad thing is most of the big name streamers would have been one of those people back in the day. Every time I see them play they are being completely carried by everyone around them despite being fed every advancement, I really don't get it.
Hunter Sanchez
I hope some autist private server guilds will rise up and ruin these entitled faggots' experience. Either way you should avoid their realms, this same shit happened back in vanilla when all the zooms zooms of that day wanted to play on same realm as Nihilum.
Benjamin Adams
I'd mobtag the fuck out of them if I didn't know that would 100% get you banned.
Ayden Gonzalez
He contradicts himself around the midway point of this excerpt. That takes sheer fucking talent. What a bawwwing baby.
Jayden Turner
Asmongold and sodapoppin are admittedly terrible players that don't know what they are doing. They made a name for themselves through other means, not wow (mainly being retarded on twitch). There are other streamers with smaller numbers that are much more competent and of course will never match their view count because nobody really cares about WoW, they care about the streamer.
Jayden Perry
Uh, the logic in this sounds heavily flawed.
I know its pretty much spelled out in OP but aren't the non-fans just going to start blacklisting streamers and becoming more aggressive if these streamers try to blacklist? What I'm looking at seems to be a very pussified way to declare war. They are at war.
Jason Edwards
Bro that's not how vanilla worked. You and every other fag who follow streamers will have the same gear as the blacklisted players because the streamers will be the only ones getting gear from raids and they will leave you with nothing.
Ryder Martin
No because blacklisting is a feature that only important streamers can use :)
Nicholas Phillips
When the streamers can just wrangle enough tards to carry them then they don't NEED the rest of the community.
Alexander Wood
I believe Blizzard would be very afraid to punish someone, at least heavily, like a ban, for griefing streamers. The atmosphere is absolutely volatile in their playerbase right now, concerning streamers. If someone was banned and decided to make it public everyone would rally to defend him and it would be a massive shitstorm. Blizz really can't afford something like that right now, especially to please a streamer.
Blake Nelson
>Rolls a Rogue
What now retard?
Carter Lewis
For sure. Asmongold is actual trash and gets carried by his viewers, plus he scammed people all the time. He'd definitely be blacklisted as a normal player
Bentley Thomas
Will the peasants dare to revolt against their masters? The noblemen will still probably crush the lowly scum, with their armies of servants.
Wyatt Cruz
AMAHGAWWWWWD DID YOU SEE THAT 2400 EXECUTE CRIT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CLIP THAT CLIP THAT AHHHHHHHHH
>he scammed people all the time Really? Has he been banned? I never watched him I've seen his snaggletooth staring at me in YouTube thumbnails many times though.
Daniel Barnes
Man it's going to be hilarious farming Warriors as a Survival Hunter.
Gabriel Nguyen
I told you guys it wouldn't be the same. You can never go back. let it go.
>He prefaced his idea by saying that he wishes people would just treat him like an anonymous player, but that’s not happening. And while he thinks it’s fine to kill streamers, he said that if somebody is obviously stream sniping—for example, moving exactly where he’s moving while stealthed—then they’ll get added to his list. i wonder why, could it have something to do with the fact that he won't stop broadcasting himself?
Jackson Morgan
He's been suspended for some stuff and let go for others.
Chase Peterson
Why would streamers roll on a pvp server anyway? They will either be targeted like crazy, have players to afraid to fight them so theres never a fight, or everytime they try to pick a fight a swarm of thier lackys will drown the target in bodies. Still im gonna wait a day then pick a server without a streamer. Its the only sane option.
Ryder Long
>Blizzard can't afford to do [retarded action] to piss off their playerbase Just fucking watch them
Nolan White
So they feel hardcore about "Muh stranglethorn" while being surrounded by leeches and hangers on.
Zachary Davis
I watched a few of his vids mainly his guides from when he actually made vids himself of how to do certain content solo he bragged quite a bit about scamming people and the like and how it never came back to him. Long story short hes an asshole.
Brandon Butler
>endless armies of fans at PVP, bosses, progression Yeah that does not work. I'll see these faggots at scholo, Garr, major domo, ragnaros, razorgore etc.
Lucas Peterson
This is a good point I hadn't really considered much though it did occur to me.
Why in god's name do people follow streamers again?
Robert Thomas
as someone who played original wow beta and wow up through wotlk and quit at the panda retardation i've had no inclination to return to the game. until now. i got into wow for the pvp. world pvp ganking pre-cross server play was legit fun. locking down outdoor raid bosses like kazzak and azuregos was my jam. fuck niggers who think they can 'blacklist' me. i will start a whole guild just for blacklisted players to hunt down faggot ass nigger streams 24/7 and force them to quit. i was the first warrior on my server with an arcanite reaper. lionheart helm. stronghold gauntlets. and sulfuras. i was 1 hitting clothies so much threads on the wow forums about me resulted in the weapon speed normalization patch. i fucking shut down lights hope chapel pre-naxx to stop faggots from farming up their rep and 'getting ready'. i am the reason the guards in many neutral towns were buffed to be nearly unkillable, teleporting, insta-gibbing faggots. ganking faggots in wow is the best part of wow and these faggots have made themselves target #1. just gave me a reason to sub to wow again.
> recruiting pvp players
im in
>Blacklisting already existed in vanilla. Shit players were known serverwide and barred from endgame content and progression guilds >Being a shit player and killing annoying as fuck streamer once are absolutely not comparable. >The sad thing is most of the big name streamers would have been one of those people back in the day.
all this. will be a top guild and we will be fucking streamer faggots in their boipusys all day long.
100% Asmongold is going to whine about PvP balance when he can't actually 1v40 as a Warrior like he thinks.
Colton Jenkins
They get to pretend they're playing the real game and winning while their drone fans do all the work and gladly pay for the privilege of being in their group.
Brody Hill
Streaming is not a WoW mechanic. If someone wants to watch your stream to know where you are and fuck you up he has every right to do so. On the other hand you have every right to try to blacklist him. I believe though trying to name and shame someone for fucking you up as a streamer will only have the opposite result of making him famous and granting him support. I don't think these streamers realise how many more people exist that loathe them for every one of their followers.
Nicholas Robinson
>Why in god's name do people follow streamers again? They like to imagine they have a friend
James Wilson
Boomers are the biggest bitches in the world Just play on a different server you retards
Thomas Wright
>click on another server >problem solved
Adam Moore
They think they already friends with them mostly. Other people do it for a chance at fame, leech for their own streams.
Cooper Hill
>Streaming is not a WoW mechanic. If someone wants to watch your stream to know where you are and fuck you up he has every right to do so.
u dont even need to watch someones stream to hunt them down. back in my day you jsut had two accounts, one horde, one alliance and you'd just /who them, find the zones they are in, message other players in that zone, offering gold for anyone to tell you if you see em cause they're a faggot and someone would always oblige.
dude 1hour stream for him is liek a gorillion dollars
Daniel Wood
If you don't like streamers then roll on their opposing faction and gank the shit out of them constantly, it's not like you won't know where they are. As for the blacklist: cross faction collusion is against the TOS and if streamers participate Blizzard will ban them.
Hunter White
>Nathan Grayson is still writing shitty clickbait The more things change...
Nathaniel Bennett
>streamer and his zoomzoom army hop on a server and start tanking everything >everyone else gets sick of their shit and leaves >umm guys this server seem dead to you? i'm moving to this other server next week >when i get there you useless sacks of shit better have at least 10k gold farmed and a premade raiding guild set up for me if you want to see the next foot stream
Isaiah Bailey
how about don’t stream if you don’t want people knowing what your doing faggot
Hudson Williams
Maybe I'm getting too old for this, but back in my day if you were stupid enough to broadcast your position in a multiplayer game, and someone used it to kill you, they weren't at fault for screen watching, you were at fault for being retarded. If you don't want to get screen sniped, just put a 60s offset on your stream.
Daniel Brown
I may not play wow again in any form but I will definitely enjoy the dreams of these streamers getting btfo on pvp servers.
Jaxson Anderson
who the fuck is Dafran lmao
Aaron Lee
>As for the blacklist: cross faction collusion is against the TOS and if streamers participate Blizzard will ban them. if you actually think blizzard will ban free advertising, you're delusional.
Jose Moore
>giving unskilled, talentless man children who produce NOTHING to society free income to waste away on junk >Communism rules bro! We just haven't done it right yet!
Matthew Gray
>making up doomsday scenarios ok lol
Parker Morales
I hope this happens and streamers complain so then blizz starts banning people for being mean
Ayden Evans
It has already happened multiple times on beta. Asmongold couldn't get his whirlwind axe on stream due to horde interventions and had to stop broadcasting for two days to complete the quest.
They do it all the time, they banned Swifty for raiding capital cities, they banned Esfand for streaming pservers, they banned Preach for levelling up too fast. They aren't afraid to ban streamers.
Free advertising via the losers who sit inside all day. Best part is all the losers streaming it claim to be these Vanilla masterminds/OGs when none of them played until BC+
Leo Davis
>they banned Swifty for raiding capital cities how the fuck is that a bannable offense? i thought city raids were a common thing?
Levi Cook
>leveling too fast lol what
Brayden Diaz
it crashed the server
Nathan Ward
Soda is so paranoid and full of himself he thinks every single person playing on the opposite faction is planning to stream snipe him 24/7.
You think if someone has clip of a streamer "blscklisting" someone and sharing the name with the opposite faction, it won't be viral in seconds and blizz will be forced to act? The most popular threads already on the forums are about streamer hate. Before they even did anything. Blizzard can't afford more enmity with their players right now.
Angel Stewart
Streamer will do the best events stay butthurt Yea Forums. I will roll on Asmongold's server and have fun with him.
For what? living the dream? If I had the means I would totally live in a hippie/cult like commune and shag all these (female) youngsters.
Justin Torres
abusing potions on stream
Josiah Hill
>get paid stupid amounts of money for playing video games every day oh no I feel so bad for you, it really sucks that you can't make money if you want to play the game normally
Nolan Mitchell
>Bullying I hate this soft in the loafers world. Imagine crying on the internet about faceless, nameless people bullying you. Imagine the lack of self confidence one must posses
Charles Ramirez
Ever since WoD the servers have been dogshit held together with superglue. If more than 40 people congregate in the same place the world crashes. If streamers actively incite this they get banned.
Blake Gutierrez
I find it funny not a single one of them is a support class.
Fully attentionwhoring
Hudson Richardson
>Soda is so paranoid that's what smoking pot 24/7 does to your brain.
Cooper Evans
Isn't that targeted harassment from their side? How about they get permanently banned for trying to pull this shit?
they weren’t because trying to so crashed the server ever time.
Only city that ever got raided successfully was orgrimmar. everything else was a crash
Aaron Cox
>making up >already says he has plans to set up a massive blacklist with other streamers to black ball anyone who even looks at them funny Any server they play on is going to be some nightmare dystopia where you have to constantly watch what you do or get blacklisted from 75% of the servers economy.
Jack Howard
Im 99% sure that its considered ok to single out a player and kill them nonstop. Not that I dont doubt blizzard would take action in this case.
Jayden Wilson
Yeah but is he a "Ret Paladin" main?
Josiah Garcia
yes they should be banned, but they won't be banned because blizzard is going to make bank on all the smoothbrain zoomers who pay full price for wow classic at launch to play with their gods.
Jordan Harris
>so jaded he can't enjoy anything and hates everybody
I just find your idea that some rando on the internet makes or breaks your choice of server sad.
Connor Anderson
Except they'll whine to Blizzard who will proceed to ban anyone "stream sniping". Of course you can't prove someone was stream sniping, which means you better hope you never happen to gank a streamer or it's a permaban for you.
Justin Green
Fuck streamers. I hope people make their life a living hell.
Josiah Lee
>yfw the second zoomer daycare streamer quits classic the server hes on fucking dies immediately
This but unironically Streamsnipers are massively autistic, and so are WoW players. There will absolutely be enough of them to have a full party for raids, if they managed to coordinate properly.
Ryder Gonzalez
>Isn't that targeted harassment from their side? No. If people don't want to play with you then then too bad. If this was real life it would be illegal, but this is fake shit that's been done in the past in this exact same game.
Jeremiah Cruz
>Streamers start fighting each other for Server daddy positions.
I can't wait for it. I can't wait for Asmongold to get caught account sharing for High Warlord too.
Isaiah Martin
im pretty sure there isnt stated anything in the tos that you cant stream snipe streamers. If they roll on a pvp server its their own fault
Elijah Lewis
>There are boomers in this thread who don't know the joy of seeing your character running around in view of your favorite streamer
I'm not a pvp player but if I could I'd raid with the blacklisted players and help them gear up.
Jackson Brown
no one is ever going to read those "blacklists" or care about them lmao you're fucking delusional
Nathan Ross
make sure to have linkin park background music
Alexander Wright
What an unbelievably based post. Godspeed and good luck.
Connor Morris
You don't even need max level gear; T1-T2 is already good enough to merc any scrub in Naxx gear in PvP.
Aaron Fisher
It has been done before but this time it will be done publicly, for everyone to see. There will be hell the moment someone gets blacklisted and complains publicly about it, streamers are hated right now in blizzard's forums and WoW reddit. Blizz will have a pr disaster in their last hope for wow revival. They can't have that.
Juan Davis
A few days ago Asmongold had an argument about this with Staysafe and Mcconnel where they were both telling him "You're on a PvP server" when he kept complaining that people were interrupting his community events.
James Davis
linkin park breaking benjamin escape the fate ???
Kevin Moore
streaming does nothing positive for videogames /thread
Jackson Walker
Yeah I watched a clip of that. In the end he admitted he was being an unreasonable asshole.
Nathan Clark
>"Sodapoppin proposed a controversial plan to discourage stream-sniping shenanigans in WoW Classic: a Horde and Alliance “blacklist.”
This has got to be the most idiotic sentence ever to exist on Yea Forums. and that includes things like "I liked ME3's ending"
Caleb Williams
>gear progression locked to multiplayer sounds like retarded game design
Christian Bell
Three days grace Disturbed Rise against NoFX Drowning Pool Slipknot
Angel Powell
>Asmongold Didn't he quit wow months ago? I remember him posting several videos with him in his yard or something saying why he doesnt want to play anymore
>We tried duelling but people sat on totems and interfered >Then duel in a yellow zone so you can kill them >Yeah but then horde would attack us >Then kill the horde >Yeah but I can't
Just happened again yesterday when he was trying kill Rexxar and a group of Horde showed up to defend him. He was complaining that it's not technically "world PvP" because they just wanted to kill Rexxar and nothing else.
He took a break from streaming in general, but he's back in full force now with Classic.
Jason Harris
rammstein
Jose Young
he came back to it because people got bored of him calling dark souls bullshit
Cameron Butler
I don't even give a shit about WoW, but people organising raids against streamers in any game and watching them seethe is fucking hilarious. I hope you utterly annihilate all the faggots you come across and bathe in their tears
Austin Cook
I wish I was an Americlap just to dunk on his crackhead looking ass. Warriors were such easy targets in Vanilla and even the healer meme never worked.
Luke Wilson
is soda a manlet? he looks like one
Colton Baker
To the best of my knowledge he wants to quit but WoW is his life. Like actually his life its his living and its all hes done with his life. Hes to afraid to move on. Dudes gotta be making 5 figures a month doing nothing. Ide be hesitant to leave that job no matter how much I hated it.
Jayden Perez
Somebody WILL make an addon that auto updates with all the names on the list and automatically ignores those people, don't be stupid. Probably will also let you see the other streamer white knights for easier cooperation and all that shit.
Alexander Bell
Yeah i.e. the place the majority of the playerbase goes for news and posts. What are you implying nigger?
Dylan Perez
He looks like 4 foot tall.
Julian Brown
Does he think city raids aren't WPVP too?
Christopher Jenkins
Got a link to clip so I can't enjoy him whining like a faggot?
>I hate Asmongold but can you link to him so I can hear how stupid he sounds Why is Yea Forums so tsundere for streamers?
Connor Reed
The issue is he doesn't actually do anything worthwhile.
He raids Mythic raids but gets carried in like 99% of the fights.
He got carried to gladiator. He's just gotten everything for free and then whines about it.
Benjamin Campbell
He honestly can't. He burns money like a lotto winner and has absolutely no skills in his life. He can't even play WoW well and that's all he has done in his adult life.
Luis Brown
No it won't. No they don't. >The Wild West feeling of early WoW, they fear, will be trampled by streamers immediately grabbing the spotlight and refusing to let go." No it doesn't, and it's a pointless unfounded fear.
Dumb fucking thread. Nobody cares about what some 1% faggots of the population is doing, and nobody cares if you think you're being treated unfairly by ebil elitist streamers. Nobody who isn't a streamer fanboy will uphold a "blacklist", it literally will not change anything unless you're trying to join a streamer specific guild. Nobody cares, stop talking about e-celebs, stop pretending like this is going to be some huge problem so you can cry and whine about how the world sucks now because it isn't like the early 2000s and muh streamers killed my favorite nostalgia game :(
Fuck off already.
Cameron Jackson
Streamers won't want to play on the same server as other streams so they can hog all the attention. They will spread out to as many servers as possible.
Levi Anderson
Streamers are like late state cancer from what E-sports started.
They ALWAYS ruin games.
Andrew Taylor
Im not arguing his quality just the extent of my knowledge. Hes insufferable to hear and look at. Fuck as far as im aware 80% of his stream time these days is watching youtube videos while he AFK has a group clear content for him. I will never understand the appeal of streamers.
Bentley Bell
literally 0 people with an iq above room temperature care what those people have to say
The streamers will be 1%of the population but their fanboys will make up another 10%
Christopher Long
>just ignore the streemer LMAO
I can ignore a signle player sure but what about the swarm of asslickers that orbit around him? What a fucking halfwit.
Xavier Johnson
>You peasants better not kill any aristocrats or you'll never raid again. You're absolutely right that this is the attitude these faggots are taking. God streamers have ruined gaming so much.
Why don't game developers try this route: >if you broadcast your screen, expect people to use your screen in a way you might not want them to. Or also known as: stop being entitled faggots.
Ryan Sanchez
There will never be anything like Dave the Warchief or Copperfield in Nu-Classic
Zachary Carter
Between this shit and all the wojak spam I'm not even gonna touch Classic anymore. Fucking underage reddit niggers.
Michael Reyes
14 year olds thinking that the streamer is their friend is about 99% of the audiences of these streamers.
Wyatt Garcia
What he's basically saying is that he wants all the benefits from being a streamer (like money and the orbiters), but none of the negative things that come with it.
John Harris
It's funny because his chat is constantly shitting on him and posting about his receding hairline, yet they continue to sub and donate to him.
Evan Green
What's actually funny is that Asmongold literally won't be able to level and he knows it. As soon as he logs in there will be 100+ players orbiting him and he won't be able to tag a single mob or complete any quests at all. The only method of gaining exp will be map exploration because nobody can tag that. He realized this himself on stream during a stress test and was freaking out towards the end when he couldn't get to level 2.
Connor Martin
Playing Overwatch pre-ranked when basically anyone could show up in anyone's game was awful because if you got even a b-tier streamer in your game the whole game would become retarded unplayable garbage.
Jonathan Thompson
some hero could crash twitch
Kevin Jones
he can just phase to another shard
Jaxson Hernandez
This is a good post
Kayden Adams
What streamers don't seem to understand is that they are the poison. Stream snipers are the cure.
Aaron Hernandez
My gut tells me streamers will at least get to 60 mostly of stream. Not sure what they are gonna do when they realize that most of the content early vanilla was getting to 60.
Ryan Wright
>does not see the connection between streaming and getting lots of attention >someone tells him not to stream while he plays and he says no >someone tells him not to play on a pvp server and he says FUCK NO >plans to monopolize whatever server he plays on >wants the gms to ban anyone who bothers him within 15 minutes >unironically says that streamers are not privileged >unironically thinks that the chinese social credit thing is a good system What an asshole.
Ryder Sanchez
Streamers should really learn to stick to single player games like BfA.
Sure I agree, blizzard listens to them though, and wants the forums to not blow up in flames as it is not a good look for the company and the game. As I said before they can't afford any ore bad looks right now that most of their games have bombed
Carson Diaz
>reee we want the cakes and we want to eat it too reee
>>>unironically thinks that the chinese social credit thing is a good system I can forgive everything else but anyone that supports shit like that should be hanged.
Robert Lewis
Doesn't work, his chat already figured out a workaround to this. /requestinvite works in Classic. You look at [streamer]'s screen, whatever phase he is on. /requestinvite literally any name you see on screen that isn't him. They invite you. You're now on his shard. They did this in the stress test and effectively merged 10 shards together in one spot and crashed the world several times.
Dominic Edwards
NOBODY CARES ABOUT WOW CLASSIC BITCH. YOUR HIGHSCHOOL DAYS WONT COME BACK. FUCK YOU AND YOUR NOSTALGIA. FUCK OFF WITH THE CONSTANT FUCKING WOW THREADS HOLY SHIT. FUCK OFF MY BOARD. SAGE
This is also not something the streamer themselves can prevent from happening, which was why Asmon was freaking out about it, he can't escape them swarming him.
You have no idea what you're talking about. There's a reason Blizzard gives beta access to streamers. It's free advertising. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about you, but if you harass asmongold and disrupt his business, that could be a significant dent in their income.
Adrian Sanchez
These streamers are asking for it, man I thought I gave up my blackhat days. But it seems Im being called to serve once more. Yea Forums Ill let you in on something, these streamers are humans with internet passwords and standard operating systems. Their "state of the art" internet security aint all that. Things are going to get fun if they go through with this blacklist. 2 can play at this game, "Soda".
Josiah Morales
It's an mmo dood
Mason Cooper
The irony is that his own social score would be 0 at all times with his internet access revoked because playing video games let alone as your only occupation is considered bad by China.
Jason Gomez
Basically this, they could just not stream and use a totally unassuming name.
>They did this in the stress test and effectively merged 10 shards together in one spot and crashed the world several times. That's actually sort of emulating the first week of the game where you were lucky if you could get out of the human starting area.
Caleb Morgan
The moment he gets camped by a player will be the moment he calls them a sniper. Whether it's true or not. I used to camp high level gankers with my char until they left a zone, if I saw them killing lowbies in my faction. I'd do this endlessly. Sometimes even their friends would show up to try and help take me out. But I'd simply bee line for the original target and kill him, even if his friends killed me, and I'd do it over and over, because it was funny to watch them get so angry after picking on such easy targets a minute before.
Now imagine if I did this to a streamer, not even knowing who I was killing. It wasn't hard to track these guys down, to hunt them mercilessly, and yet I could see a streamer begin to bitch that I was sniping if what happened then, happened today.
Charles Clark
Lol this industry is so fucking cancer Why would you ever play a game like,wow At least with destiny i dont have to deal with streamers Just bungie listening to reddit over actual players
I’m a boomer and don’t watch streams but I legitimately don’t see a problem with any of this. People are seriously overestimating how much pull a streamer has for influencing a server, it’ll just be a circlejerk few guilds that don’t invite based on some blacklist. Wow, so just like in vanilla? And wouldn’t they be on the opposite faction, why would they help? There’s plenty of people that will do their best to get ON that list, I’m sure. And I think it’ll be great. >someone ganks a streamer >streamer fans move in to gank ganker >more people join in from both sides >large enough groups will probably push toward settlements >suddenly, world pvp is happening Isn’t that what everyone wants?
Yeah that much money for that little I wouldn't stop either. But all he really needs to do is suck it up and act happy for a couple hours a week. There are a lot worse ways to make money.
Matthew Carter
Same.
I used to do the exact same as a Hunter in Vanilla.
Some Rogue being dick around westfall? Then big dick dorf hunter shows up and now that dumbass can't run away because he isn't able to deal with a hunter who can 1v1 everyone in the game when played right.
Joseph Scott
He does
Blake Lopez
>don’t watch streams >People are seriously overestimating Yeah make sense
That's not how WPvP ever really worked. Usually one side dramatically overpowers the other and the WPvP dies instantly.
Josiah Taylor
>someone tells him not to play on a pvp server and he says FUCK NO
As someone who hasn't played WoW before and is thinking of jumping in during Classic, how do PvP servers differ to the PvE ones? Are there any benefits beyond being able to steal other people's shit, or does this guy just not want to look like a pussy?
Daniel Fisher
>a fucking singularity of people just mindlessly droning around one spot
PvP servers mean outside of a few starter zones, you can get attacked at any time by members of the other faction.
Dylan Richardson
If you want to be treated as an anonymous player, don't stream your gameplay. Simple as that. If you don't want people to see where you are, don't put that information on the internet. Other players would have to willingly put themselves at a disadvantage to ignore it.
Now I feel very compelled to join one of those stream sniper guilds strictly to ruin these cunts.
Caleb White
> PvP Server: get automatically flagged for PvP in enemy / contested zones > PvE Server: don't get automatically flagged for PvP. You need to manually enable it.
Austin Smith
Their mindset is literally "Haha I'm on stream and I'm close to a streamer, that means I'm famous XD". It's fucking pathetic
Elijah Diaz
>used to camp high level gankers if I saw them killing lowbies in my faction.
Why are you such a moral fag? Just let them have their fun, they're not camping you. You're almost as bad as you're claiming they are.
Easton Mitchell
>all these memewarrs that don't know what a deadzone is Its going to be a good time to be a rogue too.
Landon Watson
China's social credit system IS a good thing. Buying and playing too many videos games (like a streamer for example) gets you blacklisted >No crime, no gays, no trannies, no degeneracy Sounds like a paradise desu
Jonathan Hughes
it's like those glitched ants that just run around in circles until they die.
Joseph Sanchez
>Expected all the replies to be "nuh uh didn't happen faget" >They're all calling you based Based.
Robert Bell
This is too inspiring, I'm with you, user, I am you
Except that was already happening in places like STV and Hillsbrad. Except it didn't have the side effect of fanboys giving their favorite streamer gold, mats, items, gear, etc. so they can get a shout out on stream, resulting in said streamer getting so wealthy they can corner a market way ahead of anyone and thus can leverage control of parts of the economy. Not to mention that their guilds will rule a lot of the ingame PvP and PvE simply by having a way bigger number of players to pick from.
So world PvP is great but let it happen naturally because the side effects of these big name streamers are terrible and ruin the feel that WoW classic will go for.
Samuel Barnes
>taken away in a party van to a slave work camp oh yeah... paradise
Jason Bennett
>People think Deadzones are only for Hunters >People legit think the deadzone is worse for hunters than it is for warriors.
Camden Turner
It being different makes it the same, because once again this is untested territory.
Xavier Cook
LOL now tell us where the ganker touched you
Ian Young
9/10 of the people who think systems like that would actually be good are also the people who would be the first to go if it actually happened.
Thomas Lopez
Didnt Forsen build an empire out of getting streamsniper in PUBG?
Liam Clark
It's amazing how people forgot the deadzone for Hunters only really can be exploited by a Mage.
But the Warrior deadzone can be exploited by fucking everyone.
>Poor little gank boi can't handle the big counterganker cock
Get kited scrub.
Jaxson Nguyen
This is porn, right? Source.
Cooper Sullivan
I have literally never even considered playing WoW until reading this post.
Godspeed user, and anyone else who joins you. You have power unimaginable to destroy streamfags and their basedboy/zoomer fans, and I'll be rooting for you. Do it man. Make the enforcing government of anarchy.
Just don't talk about politics. I know this is impossible for American millenials tho.
Grayson Morgan
>doesn't know how to remote control computers >doesn't know how to crack into a streamer ruin him without a trace >doesn't know how to make streamers become part of a botnet permanently no matter how many times they build a new PC Take the /g/ pill and learn to code, unironically.
Cooper Long
Horde rps are going to be safe Alliance rps are going to be safe unless asmongold decide to fuck them like he did on retail
Asmongold is known to troll and harass roleplayers, but then cries for immediate bans when people troll and harass his streamer events. Literal mongoloid brain
Joseph Lopez
I havent seen that image in years.
Luke Richardson
What freaks me out is that faggot is younger than me, I thought he was like in his late 30's.
Asher Rivera
>Hell I remember people getting forced name changes on Vanilla RP servers. Wew that sound good but I doubt they are going to do it again. Maybe to randoms but not streamers.
Gabriel Sanders
>"Sodapoppin, Asmongold, Dafran, and Esfand"
I don' t know who any of these guys are and I don' t give a shit. You should neither.
Streamers only stream the flavors of the month. Once their views dwindle, they and their attention-whoring asses will latch onto something else.
But for real, how do you end up becoming the minion of some video game streamer?
Michael Perez
It's kinda poetic that WoW streamers would be the death of WoW Classic
Andrew Evans
why didn't layering kick in?
Aiden Bell
sodapoppin has been streaming wow since 2008 and he's said that if classic wow ever came out he'd focus on it asmongold is a sweaty skinny neckbeard who has done nothing but play wow since 2006 idk who dafran is either and esfand has been dedicated to classic pservers his whole career so basically they're probably not going away desu
Jaxson Sanchez
We thought he was wrong, but he was right.
Blake Stewart
Quick rundown on blacklisting? you get listed for playing poorly or for being a shitty person?
Jace Cooper
The most frustrating thing about WoW players is they only ever focus on the end result. WoW's moment to moment gameplay is fucking trash. It's not hard, there's nothing mechanically complex. The only motivation to play is because what you "will" be. So when you have "interesting" things (PVP usually) that happen that delay that, players get fucking asspained and call it "griefing". It's absolutely fucking pathetic and demonstrates how fucking retarded WoW players are.
Camden Ross
3 of those don't, they're wow streamers only. Enjoy the cancer NAfags.
Charles Wood
...
Daniel Wright
Just zoomers and weak-willed people. I mean, if you're young and just wanna play WoW with a streamer you like, that's what you'll do. And then others just wanna feel like part of a community, even if they're not important at all
Levi Rodriguez
>Didn't he quit wow months ago? Retail. Classic is a different game
Evan Gutierrez
>no one is ever going to read those "blacklists" or care about them lmao you're fucking delusional
Why would they need to read anything?
>sodapopping: "Hey everybody add _____ to your ignore" >80% of server pop puts you into ignore >you can no longer play the game
Jordan Clark
ofc we are right
Grayson Hernandez
or just lonely people especially elders
Gavin Mitchell
you seem self aware that you're out of touch, so why would you post this? I hate boomers so damn much
Jayden Cook
BC pretty much started all that shit, which I always found odd, since it got a pass for some reason.
Christian Jenkins
He purposely ruined classic to prove that he was right
Brody Morris
Beta already has ooga gang who streamsnipes and ganks all streamers.
back in the day if you got caught ninja looting or doing some other faggotry you'd get exposed to the whole server, especially if it was a lower-pop one it wasn't a literal blacklist, but these streamers seem to think so. if they really do try it, only the autismal parts of their fanbases who worship them will go along with it (read their chat, not even their fans think it's a good idea)
Connor Kelly
Low self-esteem, neglect during childhood/teens
Asher Adams
dafran is an overwatch streamer\ex pro player turned variety like xqc
Ryder Walker
>tfw eurochad >no BIG streamers whatsoever we're going home
Only fags play Alliance in classic. Horde was true OG tier until BC came out and fucked it all up.
James Sullivan
Just let the market sort itself out. Ten bucks this is only fearmongering to introduce unwanted changes in classic, in an attempt to make it more like nuwow so they can say "see, modern wow is what it must be! Classic wow jus can't be anymore!".
Blake Baker
i'm going alliance myself, ironforge is too comfy to pass up see you on the battleground.
>Streamer rolls Druid >Demands gear for Resto, Balance, Tanking Feral and DPS Feral >People will not only cave to those demands but help farm gold for the respscs and all the enchants
Boy I sure am glad I stopped reading comics like 20 years ago
Brayden Garcia
How do you think she's getting money to donate to streamers?
Andrew Gomez
Me too.
Robert Mitchell
>My friends on the Alliance or other streamers don’t play with this person. Conspiring like this can get you punished.
Easton Davis
>by saying that he wishes people would just treat him like an anonymous player What a hypocritical little bitch
Michael Young
There will be like 3-4 servers per region with 10 layers each
James Perez
Layering doesn't happen in Classic. You're basically assigned to a layer when you log in and that's it. If you join a party via /requestinvite you'll stay on that layer. They flooded a single layer well above it's intended capacity by doing this.
Layering is different from retail's phasing.
Ryder Garcia
>tfw EU so don't have to worry about streamers and their pre-pubescent armies
>Eu has no WoW Classic streamers Have you just willfully ignoring the ones that exist or what
Nicholas Peterson
Is there a max number of people in aguild? I'm a casual but if I can get a streamer throwing a bitchfit about me I'm down
Zachary Long
they must be literal nobodies then good
William Edwards
20 yo are adults you fucking manchildren
Jaxon Jones
Doesn't nixxiom stream on EU? He's not nearly as cancerous as NA streamers tho
Julian Murphy
Maybe it's just my boomerhood showing, but the appeal of streamers still eludes me. At first I assumed they were appreciated for skill but most are average to shit. Then I though maybe it was their social wit but I haven't really seen any that seem like terrifically insightful or fascinating people.
Blake Perez
>Based sodapoppin kys
Juan Reed
when are people going to finally acknowledge streamers are ruining vidya?
Zachary Parker
>Thinking they won't have followers and won't have blacklists regardless Hahahaha you're adorable
Noah Hill
It's a friend simulator.
Jeremiah Campbell
It's the same mechanic on a bigger scale.
Juan Hill
That's just one problem with old shitty MMO's they were always zergfests propping up personalities whether it's streamers guild leaders or attention whores. People who spout off about needing to see thousands of players on screen or want pure zergfest trash like GW world vs world are cancer
Christian Jenkins
I played alliance with my handful of irl friends and I'll admit, most of alliance was utter trash in both pve and pvp.
But you know what? I believe it made me a better player. I was forced to git gud early and by the time I hit end game, my small group of friends were rolling over horde in pvp. Horde were absolutely on average, better at pvp than alliance, but this made us get better as a group because the challenge was that much higher. Was funny to see horde players freak when they ran into a genuinely good squad. Lots of good times back then, and I'll never not want to be alliance for that reason.
Carson Davis
>blacklisted by some no name eu streamer and his 10 viewers literally unplayable
Samuel Rodriguez
Most large streamers have been grandfathered in before it exploded. Their fans are largely socially isolated people that want to belong somewhere. So to their fans, the facts that all those other people watch is one of the biggest draws, not the person himself. If these guys had like 10 viewers these same people wouldn't even look at them.
Jeremiah Taylor
It isn't. Phasing actively assesses the zone population and pulls people in and out constantly to ensure that the zone isn't dead and you have a steady stream of players. Layering doesn't do this. You are effectively assigned a layer at birth and you will stick to that layer. If you join a party from a different layer you will transport there and return to your home layer when you leave. That's it.
Luis Miller
>That NANI moment when you actually use the human racial to find the Undead Rogue
Nathaniel Long
They're like more local, attainable celebrities. You understand celebrity culture, right?
Cooper Williams
That's sounds gay and exactly the same as crossrealms
Sebastian Nguyen
It is gay but it's different and if you can't understand that you might have brain problems.
Xavier Smith
server-wide phasing was a thing as far back as wotlk but they almost never used it and when they did you didn't notice because it only applied to you when you did specific quests that didn't allow you to leave a small area. i don't know if there's a limit to the number of phases you can have but it goes into the hundreds easily. i used to play on an rp server where everyone had limited gm powers that made extensive use of it.
Nolan Perez
so whats stopping the blacklisted dudes from forming their own blacklisted guild and unironically rising up?
Nothing. If 80% of the server has you on ignore, the other 20% is either indifferent or fun to be around.
Ryan Campbell
>the joy of seeing your character running around in view of your favorite streamer The very notion that you are not baiting with this post fills me with boundless rage
Easton Hill
I don't understand why these streamers are being raised up as gods of authority when it comes to how classic was. Almost all of them didn't play untill TBC like asmond or even WoTLK. And TBC was an entirely different beast from vanilla.
Andrew Russell
Spoken like a true faggot who never played vanilla but wants fake credential.
Blake Allen
Enjoy the gulag, retard.
Anthony Moore
>not rolling as AsmongoId and tricking zoomer kids into giving you free stuff >not rolling as 5odapoppin >not rolling as Däfran >not rolling as Eśfand I’m gonna scam the fuck out of these zoomers
Easton Diaz
Do the layers fill up and then move on to the next layer or are players filtered in and equally distributed between layers. Both methods have huge issues that would be entirely solved with a single server like in vanilla.
William Collins
How i become a professional WoW streamer for a personal eunuch army?
Logan Peterson
Travel back in time to when streaming was just starting to become a thing.
Charles Hill
Not if I follow the rules. How hard is it to not be a degenerate for y'all that you have to project so much t. Russian immigrant with ex military police immigrant
Noah Gonzalez
Stream 24/7 and do embarrassing things to make the front page of r/LivestreamFails.
Landon Rogers
Nobody knows exactly how they are assigned, it is a mystery, but once you are assigned a layer you do tend to stick to it even through logging out and back in.
Camden Ross
Its same gay shit, retard. And it has no place in vanilla.
Jayden Wood
Exactly, the human racials and fear ward from our dwarf priest just felt op when we hit pvp hard.
Bentley Flores
Stream back when it was just starting up.
Josiah Hernandez
But tips did exactly that and failed
Joshua Howard
I don't like it. Ree
Asher Brooks
>mfw EU >mfw RPfag who will be maining an RP server Must suck for normalfags but the two biggest factors in the game are literally in my favor.
Grayson Thomas
Who controls those who set rules?
Owen Ortiz
>moralfag Advocates of moral relativism need the rope.
Michael Barnes
Well shit I guess you really do need a time machine then.
Levi Gray
>tfw entire playerbase gets blacklisted >tfw they group up and are unstoppable Lmao
Charles Lee
Learn japanese and make virtual youtuber avatar. Twitch and human streaming are near the end of their life, but virtual avatar streaming their shit is reality in japan and the future in the west
Landon Gomez
Pretend to be wheelchair bound but make sure you never accidentally get up on camera.
Jonathan Sanchez
>ctrl-f "Penny Arcade" >nothing Does nobody remember the massive Penny Arcade and Ctrl-Alt-Delete guilds in vanilla WoW It's the same shit, you just avoid the servers these fags are rolling on if you don't wanna deal with them
Owen Howard
i thought vtubers hit their peak a year or two ago and declined ever since
Charles Evans
The government obviously. Thats why they make it so any criticism of the government is a negative. Also meant ex militpol grandfathers*
Austin Ramirez
I don't think I'd know a single person outside of their cock-sucker orbit that would follow such lists. None of these fags have ever been in top guilds regardless.
This is it. They all have time away from "work" that they could spend playing the game like a normal person, just like the rest of us. They are as anonymous as they want to be but they love attention and twitch bux so much they have forgotten how.
>Spoken like a true faggot who never played vanilla but wants fake credential. this screenshot is 5000+ days old. its from the wow test server when WSG and honor system were first added. get rekt faggot
Kek. Sodapoppin' doesn't know shit. If his so called 'blacklist' grows large enough, those who are blacklisted will eventually just band together to grief him even more. Get fucked Streamshitters.
Ethan Collins
So nobody?
Austin White
dude no, that was a thing.
Brody King
I'm sure plenty of dudes will want to gank and piss off those streamer for various reasons so here's how to fix that
>blacklisted players form a guild called "blacklisted" or "TriHardListed" >they do their own raids >they form for ther BGs >they get their own gear and groups together >camp low level faggots from streamer guilds thus creating conflict within the streamers guild >also camp those faggot streamers
In the end those streamer faggots were the ones who got black listed.
Technically it would be the citizens if they ever decide to rise up. Thats how revolutions work senpai
Zachary Stewart
>Not The streamer vs autists wars are gonna be glorious though.
Isaac Peterson
extremely autistic, yet based and redpilled
Brayden Turner
Do you guys think Blizzard will have the good sense to go down a seperate content path that maintains the spirit of classic like other "classic" games have done? Or will they reach icecrown and then not know what they do and let the server die as it sits there for years with no new content?
Ryan Sullivan
No.
Connor Jackson
lmao no Classic will just be a museum for zoomers to go and laugh at the dinosaurs.
Christopher Allen
Image a guild solely dedicated to sniping streamers, killing off low minions doing bitch chores, and ninja looting boss drops than dc'ing
Isaiah Reed
this
Christopher Reed
cursed image. allies never win wsg
Colton Williams
>Blizzard >good sense no
Adrian Perez
They are waiting to see how successful classic is and if people stick around until and after nax.
Xavier Perry
dead game
Aaron Davis
>Worried about streamers using their fans as an in game army >Streamer fans
Just do everything after midnight, it'll be past their bedtime
spoken like a newfag. heres a screenshot from when bg's went live and my guild group was dominating all the horde guild groups, have 100s more of these screenshots
> He prefaced his idea by saying that he wishes people would just treat him like an anonymous player, Then...don't stream?
Jace Mitchell
If they wait untill after Nax to decide if they'll make more dungeons/raids in the style of classic people will be stuck on Naxx being the apex for years. If they ever plan on adding new content they'd have to start pretty soon after they release it
Samuel Long
more people will be playing classic wow than they will be playing 76 BR todd.
Christian Rodriguez
You're right in assumption that those people will likely get banned, but not for the reason stated. Classic will be using right-click replies, which are filtered by robots, so if a mass of streamer's fans quickly send reports of the same misconduct, the player will be banned automatically.
Eli Bell
Make sure to create a streamer kill compilation video set to Linkin Park, Papa Roach and Disturbed.
Dark Iron, Alliance won almost all the BG's as I recall it. Horde had an advantage in AB, but even then they still lost as often as they won and got rolled anytime any of the PAA guilds showed up.
Lincoln Turner
He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to stream to make fat money and be carried through Classic BUT he also wants to be treated like a normal player. SodaPoppin is either a greedy fuck and playing off as sympathetic or he's an idiot.
Cameron Williams
>and ninja looting boss drops than dc'ing >Not /dance and /spit -ing
This will be every raid with a streamer lmao. Enjoy having less gear than a blacklister
Jordan Turner
based
Gavin Turner
I have the right to voice my opinion. So fuck off. e-Celebs and streamer shits are NOT video games.
Levi James
>streamers such a stupid name
Hudson Brown
They all live in the US, right? The Swatting meme needs to return.
Adam Davis
But isn't he just having fun?
Daniel Cooper
I'm in. I've only played WoW for a week, but know I know I'm doing it to train for the upcoming zoomers war in classic. Those fucking twitch niggers have infested and shat up too many games that could have been good, it's time for them to go.
Isaiah Bennett
test
Tyler Cooper
Nice binds
Evan Brooks
Those streamers themselves are never going to enjoy the authentic wow experience, at least not optimally. They WANT to go back to being a nobody, but their very presence as a streamer is already ruining that - it is inescapable. The only way they can enjoy wow again in a true way is when they play incognito.
John Torres
what is to stop these people from banding together to create their own "blacklist" guild and then coming back to shit on them over and over again?
Nicholas Evans
Back to /g/
>install gentoo amirite fellow /g/tards
Luis Jackson
no, just have sex
Levi Robinson
>Form the Blacklist guild >Everyone's a huntard or a rogue >Bicker over every single drop because everyone needs the same things and everyone is also an asshole >Never progress into any raids as a result >Can only gear through bgs because wpvp is dominated by good bois that respect the streamer >By the time the guild has scraped together enough gear to do anything, the streamer has already cleared naxx and moved on to another server/game
Asher Brooks
Sure, these streamers have hordes of mongoloids sniffing their farts, but I feel like, if anything, anyone that is not watching their streams doesn't give two shits about these people. Will these blacklists have any effect on the people not already attached to the hip of these streamers? If anything, I think it would just encourage the rest of the server shitting on these people.
Daniel King
How will he "blacklist" people from the other faction? Are you a fucking moron?
Jose Garcia
>he said that if somebody is obviously stream sniping—for example, moving exactly where he’s moving while stealthed—then they’ll get added to his list." This just makes me want to gank his ass harder Fucking nu-wow faggots
Cameron Campbell
whats the best anti-streamer guild name? >Blacked >Rise Up >I'M ON MIXER >Personell Any others?
Ian Howard
>implying people cant unify behind their general disdain for streamers and learn to coordinate This is babby-tier Eve Online shenanigans, Im sure a guild dedicated to fucking over streamers can learn to distribute loot fairly Hell, they could make a Streamer Killing Points system and use that. Zoomzoom, little streamerbitchboi
