Realistically, you have to admit that now that Banjo is in, Geno could still plausibly get in

Realistically, you have to admit that now that Banjo is in, Geno could still plausibly get in.

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Legally and precedent wise it's totally possible. It's just not going to happen. Same with Isaac and Waluigi

Next smash character is team rocket Jesse/James

It's looking more and more like a solid rule is having to be in a main line game.

Definitely for DLC - they aren't going to include side characters from older spin off games.

But yeah, even the main cast of characters have all been in a mainline franchise, not a spinoff game.

I'd be very surprised if Waluigi isn't in Smash 6. Idk about any other first parties tho.

Rhythm Heaven

Square Enix already has a ton of reps and Super Mario RPG already counts as a Mario franchise that's in Smash, so realistically he's going to be skipped over like the irrelevant character he is.

Smash 6 is so far away. I think it's entirely possible that the speculated second wave of DLC could be for the "deconfirmed" characters that people have been demanding.

Better chances in the next one.

Two is a ton? That's less than Konami has.

Sakurai has implied in interviews that making DLC is difficult (smaller team) and he would rather move onto the next game.

Last time I checked they had 5

That's because no one actually fucking cares about Waluigi except meme-loving faggots.

>>Two is a ton?
>Literally four DQ characters got revealed as playable characters a few days ago

Do you have a source for that?

Banjo wasn't a spirit :^)

THIS! GET TO IT SAKURAI!

Alt skins do not count as individual characters.

No one is seriously attached to this particular Mario RPG Character right?
It's all an obnoxiously vocal group?

That's good honestly, rather wait some time than add more characters in a game filled with them anyway.


We already have over 80 characters guys, just wait for fucks sake

HOLY CRAP LOIS

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>Alt skins
God. Stupid people with walnut-sized brains like you seriously need to be warded off from using any kind of electronic device.

He is consistently high ranking in character polls. You know who else was? Banjo.

nobody gives a shit about this one (1) game pirate larping pinnochio

lol not gonna happen buddy. just cut your losses and move on

Not an argument.

Botting, got it.

Wait for a game where they cut all the characters and stages and you won't be able to play Geno against all these great characters and stages? No thanks.

Who the fuck cares as long he's in, besides you will still have characters like Link, Pikachu, Sonic etc..

What's the point if I can't beat up Banjo?

Whats up with him? Is he that popular or is it just some hope his appearance will pressure Nintendo to make a new Mario RPG? Especially after Paper Mario goes more the Adventure and Jump&Run route now.

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He's cool looking and his game was genuinely great, just like Banjo. And I think just like Banjo people know that he's never going to get another game so they'd like to see him in Smash for one last hurrah.

The thing with Geno is at this point he isn’t getting in based on the popularity of Super Mario RPG. That ship has long since sailed.
>BUT BANJO KAZ-
He was the main character of the franchise.
At this point if Geno does get in, it will be as a testament to his legacy to leakfags. It may seem like that’s nothing, but Geno’s been a dark horse for Smash since Melee. He’s be the ultimate meme pick, and an ultimate love letter to the fans.

Link's in the game and yet he still has a spirit. Geno's spirit is their way of saying "Look, we have the rights to the character. We can put him in."

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His game? You mean that mario rpg or did he get a spin-off?

Yes, Mario RPG is his game. He is the most important character and gets more screentime than Mario himself.

oh yes, please

Fuck Genofags and FUCK Jannies

Waluigi is basically guaranteed for Smash 6.

Ok, never played it. Thought he is just a party member.
But i was it really his game, because mario galaxy 1&2 wasnt lumas games either.

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>we want the DLC to be something people will feel is "must buy"
>the first Fighter Pass will contain characters from series not represented in Smash

G-GENO HAS A CHANCE GUYS

>his game

Sweetie my team was Mario, Peach and Bowser.

Lighting doesn't strike twice

And yet Luma is playable in Smash.

I mean I understand Banjo since it's a unique franchises and Banjo is the main character but Geno is a side character in one old fucking third party Mario game and he was only in that one game if you don't count the very small cameo in superstar saga (that even got removed in the remake). Literally Waluigi is a better inclusion to represent the Mario series.

>generic Dragon Quest swordsman is "must buy"

Nigger DQ is enormous in Japan.

O it'll happen. Geno will get in.

Yet rob and dark pit are in/

So who do you think the final two characters are going to be then?

- Want
Dante
Rayman
Spyro
Crash Bandicoot
Travis Touchdown

- Indie reps
Shantae.
Hollow knight
Shovel knight
Cup Head
Hat kid

- Don't want
Any rep from undertale
Anything from minecraft.
Anime reps

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ROB and Dark Pit arent an added price you ding-dong diddly retard.

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I found a really good Hat Kid Mii online, I think that's probably the best she'll get.

I have watched Japanese react to the direct and they lost their shit to dragon quest in smash.

Dragon quest is huge in Japan so it definitely was not a unpopular choice.

Not Geno who is a spirit fight in the game.

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Who do you think the final two characters will be though?

Not him, but the addition of Joker opens the playing field significantly. It'll absolutely be two people with virtually no representation in Smash and possibly from a non-Nintendo affiliated IP. I think some frontrunners include. One will most assuredly be third party related to a Switch port.

>Monster Hunter
>Sora
>Doom Marine
>Chosen Undead
>Geralt
>Crash
>Spyro

Out of those I would like

>Sora
>Geralt
>Crash
>Spyro

Have nothing against Doom but I just don't care for the character.

What do you think of 2B's chances? I know they haven't announced a Switch version of that yet but the fourth DLC character is still quite far away so I feel like they still could at any of this year's gaming events. I think some people might say "Square Enix already has a rep, why would they get another?" but to them I say, Square Enix loves money, why wouldn't they want a chance to make even more money from DLC?

Do you have a source for both of these quotes?

HEY

i would adore seeing geno in the game, but there are more popular and more likely candidates like doomguy or crash that have a bigger shot
better luck next time, genobro

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– DLC developments in general take time, so by the time of the release, the market will be much smaller than it used to be. DLC business is very risky than people might think. (p165)
– They are not something sell that much so it’s difficult to gather staffs. Sometimes better to move on to the next game. (p165)

Oh shit, this is surprisingly recent. And someone actually asked him about Goku, wow. Is Goku really such a popular request?

I think "next game" means just any game, not another Smash Bros. entry.

Sakurai seemed pretty adamant about there not being another Smash Bros. for like 10 years.

Lmao Banjo and his games are way more popular than Geno and SMRPG will ever be. He's such a lame pick, gimme someone relevant like Doomguy or Master Chief.

He does seem to already be defending not doing any more DLC though, so unless Nintendo forces him to I can definitely see these five being all there is. If there's no more fighters and this is the last game for a while, I'm so glad Banjo managed to squeeze in at the end.

He says that every time though.

Although this time he said as long as there is demand for Smash, he's going to be the one to develop it. So maybe this time there won't be another Smash. ( and I kinda hope not because it's all downhill from here and the man's work habits are irresponsible anyway )

Behold your new never evers

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Don't fucking lie, he's just a party member

>the i only kind of want some of those characters

Needs Toad. Being stuck as a shield for Peach ever since melee is pretty damning.

I mean, what exactly would he do as a fighter?

>more screentime than Mario himself

Bullshit. There's like, one brief cutscene where Her go isn't sharing the spotlight with Mario.
Even Mellow has a more developed arc than Geno.

If they are going to add a Digimon it will be Agumon not that puppet shit

>shoe horning dogshit like fucking hat goomba, lyn and steve
>not even actual never evers like saki amamiya

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It's not my job to come up with his moveset, but you can look at Captain Toad and Wario's Woods for some ideas. Mario 2. New Super Mario Bros. Mario Party. Kart. Sports.I

Hell, for as much people really for Waluigi, being that he's a spin-off only character, Toad could bring anything Waluigi could offer to Smash, plus he can take from the main games too.

Screw you, Puppetmon is IN.

>Namco still only has one rep
>SRW has been around since the Game Boy and continues to get games yearly
>Already has a perfect loadout ready for Smash with a mixed melee/range build
>Potential Superheavy
>Smash is lacking in Robots

Yeah, I think it's his time.
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I mean, if you're suggesting a character for Smash, the least you could do is brainstorm some moves. The point of a discussion is to discuss. But at least you listed some games.

>Still is unaware of his own stupidity
Not the same guy btw

He could but I hope he doesn't

>Being this ignorant

Power-up/NSMB themed moveset like how Rosalina reps Galaxy 1/2

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In that case Richter is functionally an alt skin so shouldn't count either

What are Stack Up/Gyromite and Kid Icarus: Uprising spinoffs of?

The IP count didn't go up and you have an obsessive desire to respond to a completely inconsequential post so it's pretty obvious that you are.

I would actually love this.

Richter's Holy Water functions differently, he is not an alt skin.

I will be shocked as hell if the fourth character isn't a Fire Emblem character from Three Houses.

What's especially funny is that they actually were in the games so it actually could happen. It won't, but it could.

ok sure lol w/e

Also, Dark Pit isn't a side character, he's one of the only two playable characters. Which is more than Palutena can say and yet she's in too.

Nah.

DLC needs to sell, which means it has to generate hype. And a lot of it, from a wide variety of people.

Joker is fairly new and interesting
The Hero is from possibly the single most popular franchise in Japan
And Banjo has HUGE nostalgia appeal.
Geno just doesn't carry that kind of weight.

Template?

Sounds like the overcompensatingly dismissive response of someone who was just caught. I'll consider this an admission of your defeat.

Geralt is a book character user.

The release of a Dragon Quest game in Japan is basically a national holiday where everybody skips work and school to go get it and start playing.

Then why is he in Soul Calibur 6?

Checkmate.

I don't have time to hash out a full moveset, but I envision him having a side special where places a bomb, and if pressed again he'll kick the bomb so it slides along until it hits something, like Ratios Woods.
I also imagine sharing Peach's pluck move, plus having a grab where he can run around while holding his opponent, like DK, but faster. As a bid to SMB2.

His pickaxe from captain Toad could be a smash attack.

The n I'm sure the Mario Party games could fill out the rest of his moves. I don't play Mario Party myself.

I'm not really suggesting Toad because I think he would be unique, I just want him because I like him and I feel like he is the most important Mario character that is still not playable.

So how Bayonetta won somehow in Europe despite her games flopping over there?

>Geralt being in Soul Calibur means he can get in Smash
Guess Spawn can get in too.

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Man you really are this dumb huh

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Oh, no, Bayonetta was a scam. She was discovered to have been in the code before the ballot even started. Thankfully her games are great so a great character got in anyway.

Your post reveals you have 4chanX which means that you can fabricate this image pretty easily, thus you are the dumb one. The fact that you refuse to let this go is just convincing everyone here that it really was you.

Nah, Microsoft literally had only three (four if you add Gears) characters to add to Smash and being well received by the Smash comunity, and Microsoft is in a PA mode of trying to make everyone (specially PC and Nintendo players) like them.

Square still have plenty of IPs to represent, plenty of options to promote themselves in multiple forms of media, and still, far more popular character. By the time Smash 6 is a thing, there would be a bigger demand for characters like Sora, Sephiroth, maybe 2B if Nier is still a thing, Mana is back, the team of the Bravery games will grow, Lara Croft has a decent demand... and all of this characters are still more profitable and popular than Geno, and more valuable to both Nintendo and Square. Literally, the only way the puppet has a decent chance would be on a direct crossover of only Nintendo and Square, and just as an homage to SMRPG.

Nier Automata was one of Square's best selling games ever. They took a pretty big risk since the original Nier was a massive flop, but it paid off. So yes, it will definitely continue to be a thing.

Square won't put Sora in because they can't make money off a character they don't own.

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No, goy! You're just paranoid, goy! Those ZSS and two Ike placeholder slots are totally coincidental! They don't at all line up as bases for Bayonetta, Cloud, and Corrin! Quit kvetching and buy our products!

>genotards are still a thing
move on

Nintendo is a Japanese company.

I'm sure Banjo's fans were told many times to move on as well.

Your techinacally right but still. The only difference between simon and richter holy water is one does fire damage and the other does aura damage

bumping while i make mine

Isn't it only gonna be third-party characters and who's IPs haven't been represented yet?

This is even more likely than people think. Meowth no longer holds the appeal he once used to, zoomers today would never believe he was once one of the most popular Pokémon and was even intended to be in Smash 64. But via coming as a package with Jessie and James, he suddenly holds much wider appeal, as boomers remember Team Rocket and zoomers still watch the Pokémon anime and know Jessie and James. Kids don't care about Meowth as a Pokémon but everyone knows THE Meowth from the anime.

To the next smash game? Ok.

Well, the point in the first place is that the four Heroes are not functionally different in anyway, whereas Richter has one difference which makes him count as a separate character. Anyone who tries to present Hero as "four different characters" is being deliberately disingenuous, probably because they're the kind of person who spergs out over any character with a sword and wants to make it seem worse than it is.

You realize that boomers are over 60 years old and wouldn't have watched Pokemon, right idiot?

Haha no, if they put an SRW character, it will be the original OG.

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after my even bigger pipe dream (banjo and kazooie) got into smash, i'm extremely positive that geno and mallow will come back one day. it won't be in ultimate, though. that's unrealistic, considering what they're going for.
if they don't come back, it's fine, but it's nice to have reasons to hope again. it's clear nintendo is listening.

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where the fuck is the dash attack

I'm not tricked and I'm not particularly amused but I'm not mad at you and I will respond.

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this is probably the best smash experience we are going to get with all the characters and stages. they should treat it as the “last” and ride with yearly season passes for a few years

No, people are twisting Reggie's words because they are really scared of another Fire Emblem character.

>the original OG
Mecha Gilgilgan?

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What trick, you idiot?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
>The Baby Boom generation is most often defined as those individuals born between 1946 and 1964.

None of them would have watched Pokemon. You're a fucking moron.

If you're going with that might as well go with Mazinkaiser instead.

Imaginary rules don't matter anymore, but for the sake of interest, here are the precedents that have been set by DLC so far, starting from Smash 4. DLC can only be:

1) Characters who were in previous Smash games but not the current one (no longer an issue with Ultimate)

2) Third party guests.

Because of this, it seems like likely we will continue to get third party guests. But remember, these are just imaginary rules, nothing's written in stone anywhere.

>DLC can only be:
>
>1) Characters who were in previous Smash games but not the current one (no longer an issue with Ultimate)
>
>2) Third party guests.

Corrin.

I can imagine Masaki getting lost again and ending up in the Smash universe.

Maybe nothing is written in stone, but it's pretty safe to assume the last 2 will also be from a different third party game each, and of course, the protagonist(s) of said game.

Lol no. He is still a mario character. The fat fuck at the game awards said we'd be getting characters from new series and so far it's been accurate. Sorry but it aint his turn.

>implying there will be a smash 6
They will never top Ultimate and they know it. It's called Ultimate for a reason and not Smash 5.

Still waiting on Goku to inevitably get in.

>Geno could still plausibly get in.
spirits, tho

>being new

>It's called Ultimate for a reason
That reason most likely being that the original "Special" wasn't marketeable enough in the west.
Games like this aren't rare for other fighting games inb4 the usual like how Tekken had both Tag Tournaments with most of the current characters yet later released new games with a smaller roster. I do believe that it will last for a long time though, specially thanks to the Switch success compared to 4 in the WiiU.

>genoniggers are so delusional to the point that their literal who character is even getting in
Holy shit Genoniggers need to be euthanized.

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You forgot:

3) promotional Ninttendo characters

The only ones that really have a shot are ones from established Nintendo series like Pokemon or Fire Emblem, so let's hope not.

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Monster Hunter
Chris Redfield

Whoa!

Better than being an idiot who doesn't know what a baby boomer is, like you.

Why is that second one hidden? Isn't he the main protagonist of one of the best selling series of all time?

Copey Stevey Seethey Seethey

Nobody expects it at this point though

Geno will the be protagonist of the next Smash

Well, it would make more sense than most names that have been thrown around, although Jill seems more likely.

Imagine Waluigi as the last fighter.

He didn't say that at all though.

It was a coincidence you dumb nigger.

I'm honestly surprised you all know who Geno is. Super Mario RPG was from 1996. Most of Yea Forums posters were born around 1999-2001.

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Spirits for fighters are using alternatives to their main look. K.Rool for example has his pirate and doctor personas, but not his King one. Geno only has one Spirit and it's his main look.

Well, Tekken Tag Tournament sacrificed a story mode to get such a large roster. I suppose you could argue Smash did the same thing, but if they were to scale back the roster, I wonder if they would do another story mode as in-depth as Subspace Emissary to make up for it. That would be cool to see again. But at the same time, if they're going to make cuts anyway, I would prefer the next Smash to significantly rework the combat, like perhaps taking it into three dimensions. I would find that an acceptable reason to do cuts. But in the meantime I hope you are right that it will last.

does anyone actually give a fuck about this literal who or is it all just meme shit like steve

Until we see "Grotesque Geno" alongside egregiously bad posts you can safely assume that people actually like Geno.

this. just gives us fighter passes every 2-3 years. we really don't need another whole new game.

I can't think of any game with DLC that went multiple years between each pack of DLC. It would be smarter and more efficient to have a team constantly working on it.

Didn't they say all newcomers are from never before seen in smash franchises?

No they did not say that.

well, they have to do those "super smash bros ultimate x [insert dlc franchise here]" titlecards

If his spirit wasn’t in the game I’d agree, but it is. Sorry Genobros

>he literally thinks Geno ISN'T getting in
>mfw

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geno will never make it in
ever

Cope.

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He will make it in eventually, but not with this DLC season.

user, we almost didn’t get Cloud back because of SE being dicks. The odds of us getting Geno even if Sakurai wanted him are as good as having a snowstorm in the Sahara.

mallow would have more of a chance than geno.
hell, boshi would have more of a chance

he won't
>getting more shit from square that isn't DQ
just not possible

I'd literally take crash or Steve or a fortnight character over geno
fuck genofags piss me off so much

Not explicitely, but if you want to take that interview with Reggie after the VGA and Joker's reveal as hints, there's a good chance the last two will also be third party and from a franchise not already present.

I gotta say though maybe it is for the best if they only do the 5 characters because it is literally killing me wondering who each character will be. We JUST got two announced and I still want to know who the last two are even though we definitely will not find out until like November at the earliest. I don't even know why I care so much, I get burned out on actually playing Smash after not too long. I think I just like the rush of finding out Smash newcomers.

Why wouldn't it be? Square loves money.

>yfw someone wins EVO as Peter

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square is very difficult to deal with
we were very lucky that they even allowed DQ in smash
getting another fucking square series would be a fucking miracle
don't get your hopes up