How did they manage to make an outlaw western game so fucking boring?

Story was fucking boring, gang was shit par from maybe two characters. Should have been another standalone lone gunslinger game, or they should have abetted in a gang that did more spontaneous outlaw shit rather than narrative "checkpoint" heists to mark chapters.

Also never got to fucking see Blackwater Heist, that should have been the climax of the game, not some Tahiti bullcrap.

outlaw western games are inherently boring. The only one that managed to be a funride from start to finish was GUN.
RDR2 was alright, though. The graphics saved it.

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>muh fields

Are you seriously complaining about fields?

I mocking the fact that you think nice looking fields justify a boring game that controls like it is being streamed on a dial up connection.

the only enjoyable thing about this game was the story
anything else is garbage. animal hunting is the worst thing. not to forget it's filled with bugs that ruin the experience. the online is awful and manages to be somehow worse than gta 5's online

this unironically

Game was brilliant. If you need your hamster-wheel light and noise go play apex or whatever the twitch streamers are into these days.

RDR2 was the most absorbing and comfy game I've ever played

t. shit taste
you must enjoy sony movies. somehow this is even more boring

I've never played a Rockstar game with good gameplay.

Not enough desert until you play as John, shitty horse riding

A mix of the morality system and criminal activity not being rewarding in-game. Morality systems are all shit. You shouldn't be telling the player when they do acts of good or evil, as it just rail-roads their behavior. If I wanna roleplay as a scumbag thief, then don't tell me I'm doing bad acts everytime I do it. It's fucking dumb. Also money is a non-issue in RDR2. It's incredible just how poorly thought out the economy in this game about an outlaw gang running from the law and desperate for cash truly is (much like the wanted system, which if you look in the credits, was the work of less than 5 fucking people). You get heaps of money from story missions, and there's very little to spend money on, which affects more than just the gameplay.

I treat RDR2 more as a visual museum than a good game. The world is incredibly well realized, and if you love the setting, then it's a genuine treat just riding cruising across the map. Otherwise its entirely forgettable save like 5 missions.

not him but this is not really the case for me, I think you just have a shit TV with very high input delay. I have a budget LG 4K panel that has a game mode which brings the input delay down to only 6ms and the game is very responsive at that. Although if you're complaining about the way characters don't immediately stop moving and such, this is just part of the animations and is present in many other vidya.
Find something real to complain about

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the first was better because of the physics the detailed blood and bullet wounds and the overall grit and dirt the game had

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It was really fun for me. But I'm not a fortnite, mario, shooty-shooty, slashy-slashy, looty-boxy type of retard player. It's a well written western with a pointless open world and some completely nonsensical missions. It's fun enough.

>more excited for casino update for GTA Online than this shit coming to PC
is this what it's like to not care about exclusives?

This, all realistic games play the same, and exactly how you would expect because its boring real life shit. Which naturally limits what you're allowed to do in the game. I don't want that shit in my games.

It's a game about hobos moving about except you get like quadrillion million dollars by the end of the 2nd chapter and the Blackwater loot is completey pointless.

GTA V is shit story-wise, but its not boring unless you do realistic (janitor or transport) missions.
>City has ramps and stunts everywhere.
>Red Dead horses sometimes dont go where you want and get hurt after barely tapping a tree.
>City has npcs everywhere to fuck with.
>Pray that you find a traveler in tiny paths and have to travel from town to town through the middle of nowhere to get any interesting options.
>Different vehicles in gta
>Horsey
>Different weapons in gta
>Guns limited by time frame
>Cops dont give a shit after you lose them in gta
>Authority cucks your wallet if you want to fully use the town in red dead
>Things to do in 2013
>So much of nothing to do in Red Dead that they needed a hunger system.

New Vegas is a better western than all the actual westerns.

I enjoyed it but there's so many things that are just completely fucking broken and need to be fixed with mods. Have to cycle/cock/pump/etc your gun again after switching, getting on/off horse, climbing, etc, weapons reset when getting on/off horse, shaky cam when getting shot at, looting takes forever, etc.
I'll also pirate it when it comes to pc just out of spite for them pulling the triple dip bullshit on us twice.

Pirates are the reason PC faggots don't get games. You brought it on yourself.

It's not like GTA5 sold 13 million copies on steam alone or anything. If they had just released it for pc at launch I would've paid the $60 for it and probably more for the preorder shit but no. They treat pc players like shit so I'll reward them by not giving them any money.
>porting to pc would be a layup
>no downside to it
Then why haven't they done it? Oh right because they're greedy kikes and know people are dumb enough to buy 2-3 copies by strongarming you into buying on console and then the next gen console and then on pc when it releases 1.5 years after the initial launch.

>when it comes to pc
NEVER EVER EVER

its jst a sandbox playground with atrocious caricature "writing"
bullet time in max payne 2 was fun though

PC release when?

i really hope this shit doesnt come to PC.
Athur he has the outfit of a western hero but at his core he is a california so(y)boy. an emasculated looser

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Nope this game is great, zoomers hate it because their only game is fortnite

Easy on the polshit kiddo, developing for PC takes time and effort

No he's not retard

Probably spring 2020. April will be the 17 month mark which is how long it took for GTA 5 to come to pc.

The CEO and an investor said it would be easy to port to pc. They could've done it from the start, but instead they're milking it just like they did with GTA because they know it works. Treat your consumers like shit and you get more pirates.

This wasn’t realistic though. Combat outside of story
>1 or 2 hideouts or enemy gangs
>cops that either spawn in town or chase you
>enemies at random encounter camps
>bounty hunters
They could’ve made the world’s enemies more alive than that.

Police auto recognize you. You can’t rob banks in story free roam. “Realism” and lack of content are two different things.

do you think it will be worth the $60+ price tag?
i fell for that shit (gtav/xbox360/PC) not gonna happen again.

RDR 2 is a pretty empty sandbox.
GTAV is a pretty bland one that hasn’t innovated in years

wait until GTA 6 to be out to say this and have a thousand (You)s saying "based"

>lack of content
Lol this game has more than enough

The ceo and investor are not developers hurrr

looks like shit

This game is pure zoomer repellent, that's what makes it so great.

lol another shitter who doesn't know how the wanted system works lmao

Not unless they actually add content to online. As it is all the missions are just
>go to the place
>shoot 5 people
>steal the wagon
>bring it back to the starting place
The pvp modes aren't fun, there's no duel at the start, no playlists so you just get put in whatever game mode it feels like putting you in. It's the definition of "fun with friends" because you only have fun doing dumb shit with friends and don't actually get enjoyment from the game.
It's worth pirating solely because of rockstar's business practices.

Micro stakes poker?
Ordering from a bar?
The same few random encounters?
One of the few things you can rob and get instant recognized by police?

There’s not much and everything is skin deep.

If you’re saying police don’t auto recognize you then you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Because Rockstar have been making the same game since GTAIV
>slow walk/drive/ride to destination and listen to an NPC spout exposition
>hide behind convenient chest-high walls and engage in awful cover based combat against the exact same enemy type for the entire game
>mission passed
>$5 reward

Bro the game has a ton of unique random encounters, a huge map to explore and a substantial single player campaign lol

No you just don't know how to play the game

I would really enjoy the pvp if not for the console aim + dead eye spam combo. Fucking tired of people who just use DE to break lock on and run up to you and blow you the fuck away with dual sawed offs.
Also they need to fix the constant gun cyclying as mentioned earlier. Oh I switched weapons, time to cycle. Oh I got on my horse, cycle. Got off my horse, cycle. Climbed something, gun goes away and cycle when taking it back out. Also fuck the action queueing. So many times I go to cycle only for it to just randomly queue up a shot even though I only pressed the trigger once.

Bounties, strangers, challenges, hunting outfits and satchels, poker, filet, dominoes, coach robberies, unique companion missions, dreamcatchers, dinosaur bones etc. this game takes a while to 100% it

*cycling I'm retarded

No, you’re just literally lying

>outside of the story
Those random encounters get old quick

that same shit happens in gtavo.
they gave us gunlockers/custom weapon loadout.
do a contact mission, fuck your loadout. here..cycle through 20 pistols, 10 rifles etc etc
that shit has to be hard coded in or something.

When I say cycle I mean cycle your repeaters/bolt actions, cock the hammer on your revolvers/double barrels, pump your shotguns, etc. It just gets so annoying having to do it every fucking time you take the gun out. They were going for realism and yet if it was actually realistic you'd be ejecting the round you already have in the chamber every time and wasting half your ammo.

oh wow FUCK that.
the way i meant was you had to cycle through every weapon you have to get to the ONE you need/favor. it's fucking retarded.

Because it about someone trying not to be an outlaw anymore.

That happens in the campaign, for me anyway. Anytime I get on or off my horse it removes my weapons except for the revolver slot and I have to equip them again. Every single time. I even went to the gunsmith and used the option to save my guns as a loadout but it still doesn't work. Just defaults to an empty slot every time I get on or off, I've been killed more than a handful of times because of that shit.

I liked role playing as a cowboy and riding around on my horsey but man, while the open world looks fantastic its so fucking empty with nothing to do. The gameplay and UI felt like shit. Really unbelievable that they tested it and thought to themselves "yeah this is great, ship it".

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yeah not shit. Why can't I save my loadout and always have it with me? There's no weapon boxes either to drop what you don't use.

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isn't R basically all pajeets now that will work the back-breaking hours for below minimum wage?

But your guns go to the holsters on your horse and you have to manually take them out because realism! Never mind the fact you have them slung around your back and shoulder and they magically teleport into those holsters, realism bro.

The premise of one of the few remaining gangs of outlaws who lost everything being hunted down by the feds is good, but they blew it with the "I wanna be a good guy now" bullshit.

>Have to cycle/cock/pump/etc your gun again after switching,
this is done automatically, retard, no input needed
>weapons reset when getting on/off horse
then select them before getting off the horse

It doesn't matter if it's done automatically, it shouldn't be happening at all. It's the first thing that needs to be modded out if it ever comes to pc.

except there's a pretty large subset of PC players who love simulationist elements in shooting - just look at ARMA, Killing Floor and Red Orchestra.

But that's beside the point, because lever pulling/hammer cocking in RDR2 feels amazing. And I actually wish they'd force you to press a button to cock manually after switching for some consistency.

That's not what I'm talking about. Cycling as a mechanic should be in the game obviously, but not cycling after literally every action that puts the gun away. ex, If I cycle my repeater, switch to my shotgun, and then switch back to the repeater, I shouldn't have to cycle it again. That'd just eject the round in the chamber and it makes no fucking sense. It's retarded and needs to be removed.

>If I cycle my repeater, switch to my shotgun, and then switch back to the repeater, I shouldn't have to cycle it again.
you're right, and that doesn't happen in RDR2. i literally tested this last week in patch 1.09.

I played 3 days ago and it was still happening then. When did the patch drop?

Yes it does, on xtoaster anyway and I'm sure it's the same on piss4. Stop defending broken mechanics or it'll never get fixed.

dunno

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>these graphics are running on a 4 year old AMD APU
clown world

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Doesn't happen when switching to a revolver bc you aren't completely putting it away. You can even see it happen with the revolver in that, he cocks the hammer twice. From what I've gathered
>swap to pistol slot = no
>swap for secondary rifle/shotgun = yes
>put gun away and take it out without swapping = no
>get on/off horse = yes
>climb something = yes (bc you put your gun away)
Basically any time you put your gun completely away you have to cycle it again, with the exceptions being holstering without swapping weapons and switching to your pistol slot.

Correct, that's a relic of the gta4 inventory system tho. It's actually not an easy problem to solve, and Fallout New Vegas/Obsidian had a very similar issue that they couldn't fix.

It's the one game where I actively tell people to just cheat right off the bat.

Go grab the White Arabian the moment it becomes available, congratulations I've shaved literal hours off your playtime from boring ass unfun road travel.

And for the love of all that is fuck, don't go "good outlaw" route, if you want to be a decent lad just do the good choices that don't effect your gameplay heavily. That bitch stuck under the horse, the faggots who need a doctor, and all the "not an escort but actually an escort" diversions are the good boy points and they ALL suck because they all end up being "Ride from A to B", which is the worst part of the game.

The fact that hunting is worthless because the economy of the game is fucked and the difficulty so low that you'll never need any kind of satchel upgrade anyway means you can skip that shit. Maybe hunt a few Legendaries for laughs but it's all useless tripe.

I was going to buy this, as it's on sale for 35 bucks.
Then they released the pre-order for Cyberpunk, also at 35 bucks.
Why the fuck would anyone buy old rockstar jank for the same price as the new hotness?
Rockstar really needs to learn how to price their shit, game should be >20 at this point, like AC oddesy and forza horizon , games that also came out 9 months ago.

its a movie where you press buttons to let your character act, the game even aims for you

The worst thing about the game is the price tag and "game journalism" shills calling it good. Paying anything over $20 for it is horrendous. Under $20 it's still a shit game, but less horrendous for that price

>I don't understand the appeal of American Westerns with my european education.
damn Ahmed that's all you had to say.