So a JP publisher has spilled the beans exactly how Epic games boosts numbers of sales on their Epic game store, they buy copies of the game themselves through their own store with that fortnite money. Hundreds of thousands of copies in-fact, they guarantee hundreds of thousands of copies will be sold if they move to EGS.
"Now some people have been confused about the reference of the platform holder being guaranteed payment for hundreds of thousands of copies in exchange for exclusivity. What this means is that the platform holder would guarantee that ‘X’ amount of copies would be paid for on behalf of the platform. So even if they don’t move ‘X’ amount of copies organically, they would still be subsidized through the deal to make up the difference."
I'm no fan of epic, but I'm pretty sure what they mean by that is that epic will pay them the equivalent of 100,000 copies to be exclusive to the epic store. they don't literally guarantee that 100,000 copies will be sold, but that they'll make the money as if they sold that many copies no matter what.
Jack Jones
>OAG >intentionally misinterpreting the statement for your epic launcher war shit everyone already knew devs get paid for epic store exclusivity, they aren't buying fucking copies of the game, they're paying the devs up front in terms of shit like "here's the cost of 1000 copies" to make up for any potentially lost sales
Noah Bell
>literally copy&paste paragraph >still can't understand it
This is the reading comprehension of the average steamcucks, no wonder they are such a retarded drones.
Brayden Fisher
Everyone knew this before, what do you think "guaranteed sales" mean?
Gavin Brooks
No they didnt, many people think EGS is doing well becasue satisfactory sold 500k copies. Many of those were bought by epic games.
Carter Kelly
>make shitty incomplete game >put it on EGS >get paid Time for me to start making games also fuck gamers
Christian Jenkins
if they don't go back to 2d I'm not buying Samurai Spirits anyway
Lincoln Thomas
It was made clear multiple times, just because you are too retarded to understand and need multiple articles clearly stating that doesn't mean everyone else is.
Tyler Russell
Imagine being this bad at comprehending text
Aaron Robinson
>one soi gamer YIKES.. have sex... dilate.. vote trump...
Leo Miller
This literally means Epic has already paid for your copy and it's a okay to pirate the game.
Caleb Rivera
satisfactory sold 500k+ on EPIC, they werent all from consumers for sure
Carson Kelly
So that's how those obscure indie games "sold" 250k+ copies.
>they buy copies of the game themselves through their own store imagine being so low IQ that this is what you got out of that statement
epic's deal is a revenue guarantee. meaning that when you sign up, you get paid that amount. then, epic receives and keeps all revenue from sales until they have made their money back, at which point they start splitting revenue as normal.
reminder that virgin manchildren who just stay at home all day posting about video games don't know anything about how business and industries work.
Jayden Ward
They bought the game through their own store. This means that whichever game they make exclusive, it's okay for people to pirate it since Epic already paid for it.
Ryder White
>Implying they wouldnt literally use the money to BUY game copys to bump up sales figures when asked Dont be a retard user, the EGS games dont sell anywhere near the amount told
Jeremiah Fisher
Epic guarantees sales, they pay the publisher the equivalent of X sales. Then Epic keeps the full profit of the first X sales. Epic isn't buying copies to boost the profile of games that do well on it's platform, because any game that does well has sold over the guaranteed sales threshold. Epic is boosting the games that flop on it's platform and don't meet that minimum number of sales. Essentially Epic is selling risk mitigation to publishers in exchange for exclusivity. This is especially lucrative for indies who are short on liquid capital and have no brand recognition or advertisement to rely on. In the long term Epic is guaranteed to meet those sales, 5 years down the line maybe, but they don't technically lose the money it's just "invested" in the exclusivity of those games.
Ryder Carter
Isn't this literally what Nintendo did with SNK heroines?
>So these third parties come together and the team at NIS and SNK decided to go with Nintendo for the western market. Physical copy-wise, it’s going to be a Switch exclusive. PlayStation 4-wise, it’s going to be just digital. That’s the deal. We will not release a packaged version for the PlayStation 4 format. Then Nintendo will act as a distributor for this game. Then they promised to buy a lot of units."
you were paid to come here and say the opposite of what is really going on. you know -- to LIE and be a CHEAT like how many chinese naturally and culturally are
the only people who use the epic store are retardeds and employees, this is well known already
William Robinson
exactly what i was thinking. it's a shame.
Jeremiah Evans
The only half decent Epic store ''''exclusive'''' is ps3's Journey. Since it's on the Epic store, you will never be able to experience it's online the way its meant to be played since there will be nobody.
It's not surprising >Nintendo guarantee you sales >market the game for you >help you get a physical version out >still make the Switch version the worst version Hell, i didn't buy it because of the performance
Logan Morgan
el oh el your internet marketing managers and overseers think that posting gigachad will get Yea Forums to agree with them. ohhh, it really is a clown world, isn't it?
hey, Yea Forums, what's up with their use of "low IQ?" they always say it.
They still haven't fixed the weird sound problem in it though. The game basically screams at you if it has access to the center speaker (surround sound or my sound card which gives me center speaker on my headphones for some reason). Even after today's patch, which I assume I have since I have autoupdate on.
Levi Clark
My question is why is epic trying so hard to push their platform? Just for more money? Like it really doesn't make all that much sense. If you want your own games on your own client, sure go ahead, but stop trying to force everyone to use yours my guys.
Carter Campbell
are you a retard or a employee
Justin Morris
Are you retarded? They pay for X amount of copies. If they SELL that many copies, Epic pockets the cash and it costs them nothing. If they promise 50k sales and the game actually sells 50k copies it costs Epic nothing.
Leo Howard
GUYYS? GUYSSSS! DON'T USE EPIC PLEASE WE NEED ANOTHER SHARTIFACT.
My guess is, that there are a couple of investors who want to make big cash when they got sold on the idea that a game distribution platform is printing money, combined with the idea that the gaming market is always growing and never shrinking. Plus another investor who sees an opportunity to get as much personal data of people as possible to monetize or whatever they are up to with it.
Wyatt Ramirez
what
Ayden Perez
>OneSeethingGamer Oh shit its this kind of thread again. That boomer needs to have sex maybe he would not be seething so much.
Ethan Ramirez
First they stole TWD and now SHENMUE3. Reeeeeee
Luke Murphy
Probably managed to convince shareholders that pushing this hard would mean STEAM money down the line, and money is all anyone gives a shit about.
Brody Watson
Yeah, that's how these things work.. Are you really this dumb?
Lincoln Parker
It makes sense when you realize how much money Valve makes for hosting game files for publishers.
John Peterson
haha 40%-ownership chinks want in on the steam money, but they just can't. i bet they're really pissed at the fact that steam is a private company as well
Okay fine I'll buy it for them. This is how you do business.
Jace Flores
You use the Epic store. So are you a retard or an employee
Sebastian Hill
>you are either a retard or an employee because you bought a game for $5 to attempt to coop with a friend get a job and you too can afford a $5 game
Carter Price
>mad
Wyatt Clark
Going to actually buy this from them now, i respect that
Brody Adams
if they did that they'd be liable for fraud by lying to shareholders and every publisher would be liable as well for fudging the sales numbers and inflating value
Oliver Long
429 on steam, 35 through gog.
stop being a retard and fellating the yellow jew
Aiden Morgan
Stay salty steam shill, while I get free games.
Chase Perry
>429 on steam, 35 through gog. is this you trying to tell me how many games you own? holy fuck you ESL fags are retarded.
Evan Gutierrez
this is why epic does the sale where they pay for $10 of the purchase, they are going to lose money anyway, so might as well offset some of the costs to consumers while trying to look like the good guy and offering "amazing" deals to convince more people to buy into their platform.
Wyatt Baker
They only have so much Tencent money to throw around lol
Nolan Watson
I really don't care.
Robert Campbell
>yfw reject Epic offer can be use to give you a good PR.
Ryan James
>go on, lad, this one's on me
Mason Jackson
not them but users choice at the end of the day
Brandon Price
why do you think they are damage controlling with their sales? they scared off publishers with that shit too since they did not communicate their scheme, so they pulled their gamescoff from the store in a hurry. they didn't even have this deal adjusted for the local currencies in the beginning meaning $10 off would be $10 off in east block countries causing stuff that's for pre order like borderlands to only cost $5. the perceived value of some games are irreversibly damaged. the publishers are probably thankful that epic is so slow with implementing features that gifting games didn't exist yet or everyone would have had borderlands 3 for only five bucks.
Dylan Peterson
So?
Mason Jones
These threads entice me to buy from epic.
Oliver Perez
do not unless you like re-downloading all your games if you move their installs to a different drive or folder
Ayden Powell
this is totally the end for epic store. good job gamers!
Xavier Walker
Factorio has sold 1M+, and Satisfactory is drawing from mostly the same audience. It's not implausible at all that it has 500k sales.
Lincoln Young
literally everyone has done this, even perfect world employees are forced to buy games with their bonuses
Benjamin Thompson
You think its 100% impossible that EPIC bought copys to bump up sales figures for coffee stain so they could say they did well?
To be honest, it is implausible. The game is a niche game. Just compare it to their zombie game which released to a similar time and price and sold even half of that. Metro, which was supposed to be 2.5x times the sales of the previous once, what ever that is supposed to translate into real numbers, wasn't something to boast about. The store and game sales are inflated and a scam. Especially when you have no fucking stats or player count on their store or external site. Their only big thing is Fortnite and the rest of their games get only attention by people who are impatient or simply don't care about the consolification of the market.
Ryan Edwards
EGS shills are trying real hard to make it seem like epic is not LITERALLY buying copies but it's what they do. It's not like there's a steamspy system in place where epic can prove otherwise so people are free to assume the worst.
So they're basically the Disney of vidya industry.
Jordan Richardson
>OAG
This post is advertising/begging.
Brody Moore
You think only kids use EGS? you're pretty retarded user.
Brandon Collins
You can't possibly be this stupid.
Jonathan Martinez
please answer my question, do you have prove to back up your claim?
Thomas Gomez
>every single wojakpost i've seen in this thread has been a "oh look how dumb and stupid and retarded steam users are!!!" post probably the same person. glad i never had a wojak folder and don't even buy or pirate any new games. i have a backlog of at least 5 big games to play.
Gabriel Wood
>more american then it is Chinese And we're at a point in history that this makes absolutely no difference.
nigga, people have been talking about this "guaranteed revenue system" for ages, it's why people pirate EGS exclusive games with no remorse, because their copy is already paid for
Nicholas Young
burden of proof is on you when you're the one claiming only kids use EGS dumb nigger
Adam Powell
It's an attention whore who has the 9gag/plebbit mentality of that he needs upvotes, or in this websites case (you)s. Literally a teenager farming internet points.
Isaac Wilson
I'll fax kotaku and let em know
Ayden Mitchell
I'm not him you dumb nigger.
Where is the prove that the game actually sold 500,000 copies and not the case like this?
Hunter Jackson
>on a storefront launcher only fortnite kids have. >I'm not him you dumb nigger. Steam drone throthing at the mouth doesnt even know who he is
Gabriel Rogers
We've all known this for months user. Its old news that everyone pieced together a long time ago.
That said its still scummy as fuck and nice to see more devs calling them out for this shit.
Dylan Clark
Wait do you actually believe that EPIC bought copys of Satisfactory?
Jackson Cooper
Who called them out?
Angel Bell
Don't you? they are a scummy fucking company with buckets of money.
Juan Miller
>Epicshill think there's only one people who hate him
Lucas Garcia
It takes a few key presses on a computer to buy a hundred thousand game key codes, why would they not do that?
Even Jim Sterling, that hates Epic says the games are selling well. So it works.
Carson Scott
>itt tinfoil hat conspiracys
Asher Thomas
Congrats, you haven't even read this thread. That's quite literally how that works user. It's not a practise exclusive to video games either.
Elijah Jackson
they most certainly did almost nobody plays that shit
Jason Russell
ya'll crazy, i give you that, dont hate on devs that do well because they changed teams, this is as bad as console wars
Standard Chinese business tactics. Americans are just mad that the Chinese understand business between the supposed experts.
Matthew Bailey
back in my fucking day we didn't have launchers because digital didn't exist and we did just fine fagbag, tired of zoomers obsessed with this shit, if you can install a game you can click a fucking shortcut on your goddamn desktop like a reasonable human being, you don't need a soulless list of all the shit you've bought staring you in the fucking face every time you go to play a game
Charles Miller
No it doesn't actually because we're not making the initial claim. If the sales were actually that good and were all real sales then why don't they just post player numbers?
Zachary Hughes
and whos to say that epic didnt "buy" those copies for even cheaper as part of the deal
Brandon Long
>back in my day time to die already, old man
Evan Reyes
This. The future belongs to the zoom. Old people just can't keep up.
Asher Ortiz
For that niche game I can see seven thousand copies being bought. It's so stupid and casual people wouldn't buy it for less than 10.
Dominic Robinson
am I the only one who is bugged a lot by how fake this number looks? as if for some reasons the game was popular enough to "sell" above 500k copies yet they just happened to catch the sales number at "507 374"
Joshua Young
Loud and proud retard then
Mason Robinson
Isn't this basically fraud from an investor standpoint?
Robert Nelson
Yeah
Angel Perez
I just love that regardless of all the shit thrown around epic, you can just tell that the main reason Yea Forums is so anal blasted is that is full of pcbros that are fucking seething because another company is taking shots at their favorite corporation and they can't keep all games on a single launcher.
What the fuck happened to this place? Years ago everyone pirated and if they liked it bought it, now people are ready to bend over to a faceless enterprise and even preorder garbage like normie subhumans.
Don't forget to suck Gabe's cock on your way out user.
Austin Johnson
Isn't this potentially illegal since Tencent is publicly traded? I'm not really sure it is, it just seems like something that would be. Buying massive amounts of your own product so sales numbers are higher and influencing investors to buy?
Nicholas Lee
testing the word filters
desu baka senpai pcdrone
Brody Jones
Epic literally gives you cash for X amount of copies and until the devs sell X they get no money.
It's pretty obvious this is what it's happening, don't know why Yea Forums it's so fucking retarded that believes they only sold 7000 copies in total when millions of people use it for fornite.
Joseph Williams
That doesn't sound like any issue, but if any of the developers report those as actual sales, I could see it being one. It just puts it in an investor's head that the company is doing well so they wanna buy stock in it. It could just be what you said anyway and that they're actual sales. I hate EGS too but I'm not gonna make shit up.
It's not Fortnite or Minecraft, it's a shitty factory sim that only appeals to adults or Germans. 7k is what I would expect, if you think 500k people saw that gay game about conveyor belts and bought it you're retarded.
Josiah Wilson
It already had a established fanbase from Factorio though
Jaxon Hernandez
>EGS store is performing even worse than what we are shitposting about
factorio players saw it for the shit it was and didnt buy it
Easton Wilson
Epic isn't publicly traded, there's not really a reason to appeal to investors. It's literally just Tim Sweeney and Tencent. Unrelated but Activision is a good buying opportunity in the eyes of those public investors you're probably talking about. Still can be if you can get in at around $40.
Joshua Ward
>seething because another company is taking shots at their favorite corporation and they can't keep all games on a single launcher high doubt when the epic launcher itself is shit. that's why people don't like it and there are no games. not everyone has an emotional attachment to things and companies. many decent people just want a GOOD launcher and would have considered epic's if it were, you know, GOOD. we want good stuff. epic is simply not good. and personally, i don't see game that would make me want to download their launcher.
ESLfag here, please correct me if i misunderstood it. from what i get,
>Epic guarantees revenue equivalent to n copies sold >the difference between n and the actual copies sold is billed as sales >Epic claims the game has sold n copies
Asher Phillips
You're retarded. old Yea Forums wouldn't care about launchers because it would just pirate whatever it likes.
Also this place is infested by PC and Nintendofags, that much is obvious. And what is the most used pc platform? Steam
Brandon Turner
That's your job, redditor.
Justin Nelson
>oneangrygamer Lmao what did epic do to get the incel agenda targeting them?
Cooper Jones
there's no proof of the second two claims and it seems like people are misinterpreting things. they're definitely giving publishers money upfront equivalent to n copies sold to have exclusivity
>and personally, i don't see game that would make me want to download their launcher. the majority of people defending the EGS will usually say that you probably don't need all the features launchers like Steam offer, because at the end of the day, a launcher is just supposed to let you buy games and play them.I'm starting to think gabe newell wasn't totally wrong when he said piracy was a service problem
Ryan Ramirez
>console warring retard >muh old Yea Forums argument about what I expected
Luke Turner
>no counterarguments Yep, looks like I win this discussion. Keep seething and sucking corporate dick while I get my games for free.
Michael Gray
>PC and Nintendofags you know, it's actually really worrying to know that you are somehow against the two platforms that are FOR actual video games.
reading it again it's clear it's mostly speculation, but even if there's no proof it makes a ton of sense some of those sales figures were suspiciously high
to top it off, Epic Games is the only entity which has control over the informations regarding sales, there's no other party we could trust to publish honest numbers. And they may as well be lying for their own gain
Christopher Bailey
>Well, I'll just get my games for free! From EGS weekly giveaways i take it you fucking chink?
Brayden Phillips
I've never used Steam or Epic in my entire life, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Keep on seething, valvecuck.
Holy shit i totally forgot about the slowpoke kotaku-sama meme Thats an old fucking meme dude lol
Sebastian Young
why do people pretend its epic vs valve?
Leo Gray
>5 years down the line maybe, but they don't technically lose the money it's just "invested" in the exclusivity of those games. Is there a game on egs that is not timed exclusive? Most people who have patience and use steam are just going to wait 1 year It's not like there is a shortage of games available to play in the mean time
Christopher Parker
I never mentioned anything about valve, you fucking mongoloid >people chinks are insects, user
Yes and if there was any truth to it Epic would be getting fined the shit out of itself by the FTC.
Ethan Williams
>epic meme, friend kys
Caleb Wilson
Prevent the console war faggotry that plagues the consoles
Oliver Harris
Not implausible, but unlikely at least from my perception of the world I have not seen satisfactory mentioned outside of egs store discussions anywhere Not even game is good or bad I have no come across anything about it on any news site, forum or other gaming related site If it does have half a million players they sure don't use common internet sites to discuss it
Ryan Nguyen
>Chink company supported by chinese glorious leader and funded by an entire nation of starving commies Nobody can fucking touch them, they're way too rich
Ethan Smith
>Didn't talk about any exodus sales on pc during the financial meeting >Dodged all questions and asked people to avoid the subject Exodus sold way below expected on PC
Nolan Perez
they're giving them money, they're not buying the game from the store you absolute retard
Kevin Collins
>middle of a fucking trade war with Trump picking random Chink companies to extort or intentionally fail >but this one American-based company is immune to all of it because to think otherwise would go against my narrative
Bentley Thompson
alright then faggot, what do you propose then? The best thing we can do is ignore them until Tim swiney burns through too much cash with no returns so Tencent cans EGS and harvests his organs
Landon Reyes
they are literally boosting their own sales to make their store look good
Jason Miller
I understand why someone would become a Steam loyalist, but who in their right mind would become an Epicfag?
Charles Russell
>they're giving devs money >they're guarenteeing minimum sales >nuuuuuu, they arent buying the games themselves to pad put sales numbers! You fucking idiot
Gabriel Adams
sony did this with Horizon: Zero Dawn too
Dominic Howard
satisfactory had 500k guarantee sales
Julian Cook
>they posted sales >he didn't believe them >why don't they just post player numbers
>become chinks can choose between a bag of yen and a life of no dignity or the gulag for themselves and their family where their insides are removed and sold off
>epicshill getting desperate I'm pretty sure the minimum sales gaurentee wasnt for some piddly umber like 50k sales that anything of value can reach on steam within an hour
Noah Morris
>So a JP publisher Why not just say SNK? Worried zoomers will think it is the shitty manga and won't get those clicks?
>inb4 epicshill posts that indie game that solf 400 copies made by some literal who who got employed by Capcom
Asher Hall
I love how leddit is pretending this incident didn't happen
Josiah Gonzalez
Don't underestimate the PC audience, if they don't like a developer or platform they'll happily pirate or ignore the game entirely. Just look at the windows store, absolutely nobody put up with it.
Kayden Nguyen
even a gram of chinese in a ton of american is too much. the chinese are back stabbing vermin, their government exemplifies it. chinese sellouts deserve the rope.
Jayden Rivera
I dont know, if they do actual units then 30% of the money spent goes back to epic. For the publisher it means that they can show something to parwnt companies or stock holders.
Although thats all shady as hell.
Owen Clark
this is your average reading comprehension of a valve dicksucker.
>. So even if they don’t move ‘X’ amount of copies organically, they would still be subsidized through the deal to make up the difference."
aka if company is promised 500k sales by epic - at 60 dollars a pop thats 30m But they instead only hit 300k copies sold, epic will pay the remaining lump sump that devs missed aka 12m 60*200k Theres no buying game keygens dumbasses
Noah Morgan
Not to mention that 501700 or whatever is such an oddly convenient number that just screams "we put half a million more onto our sales due to Epic's guaranteed sales".
William Reyes
>Although thats all shady as hell. you don't say? epic would never do that then!
Chase Watson
>Epic pays devs upfront for a guarenteed sales limit in exchange for exclusivity and pockets all the sales made until then. If the games dont sell to the limit, Epic will pay the difference and suddenly the game sales numbers spike >But nope, Epic isnt buying these games themselves! Oh no, that wouldnt be a good thing to do, and we all know chinks are good people! Even though a dev has outright confirmed it! Chinkshills freaking out
Thomas Adams
One of the ways a company counters boycotts is they push false high sales numbers, this makes people boycotting think the boycott isn't working and they give in and then buy games on the store.
Given Epic are throwing money around like its water I doubt many think they are above buying copies of the game off their own store to bloat sales numbers.
Jace King
What if they tell the developer to state that $100k or $4 million should be counted as sales?
Justin Moore
There is no logical reason to "become" a Steam loyalist either. It's fucking pathetic to identify as a corporation cocksucker. See console wars and Apple fanatics.
Eli Cruz
look at all of these games that have been in a humble bundle or -90% off before so anyone who HAD interest in them got them while they were still relatively new
wow, epic is so generous gifting all these sub 5€ games.
All you did was out yourself as a casual gamer. By the way, they make more money off of your personal information & statistics than what it cost them to give those games for "free"
Not wanting to be on Epic because it's nowhere near as developed as Steam who has had years to make it good. >Oh wow Steam corporate dick suckers I hope you're not leaving your credit card info saftey up to Epic. There haven't been any exclusives on that store to
Landon Gray
>Epic drone once again shifts the reason to be steam every time
Do you intentionally leave out the fact that Epic takes the freedom of devs? This isn't just about platforms, it literally removes choice. For example, NON DRM options like GOG and physical copies stop being a thing because of this.
Take note of Shenmue 3 fiasco - Backers who wanted physical copy will now receive A FUCKING BOX WITH A EPIC CODE IN IT. In what universe do you see this as an okay thing? and why do you always ignore the biggest reason: They don't give the customer a choice
Matthew Jackson
Whatever sonytard. Don't you have tranny monogatori to play you fucking censorship apologist?
Thomas Price
good point tbqh, why should we ever believe them about anything?
Jonathan Murphy
The chinese are the future. You just have to accept and deal with it. All business will be done like this and you better like it if you want to keep your house.
Oliver Collins
You can pirate it and play online, I met 3 people so far
Bentley Anderson
Are they really being given a box with an epic code? Where's that proof.
Luis Gray
is this the level of intellect epicshills have? they pay the company for missed out sales due to exclusivity, translating into more sales.
Brayden Ward
Why is it so easy to troll with epic? Yea Forums falls for it every single time?
Joshua Brown
Epic is friend with sony. Their job us to destroy pc gaming for once and for all.
Sebastian Taylor
go to shenmue 3 kickstarter comment page and see the shitstorm yourself
THIS is what the general public thinks of steam. Don't be influenced by the shills, giveaways and blatant lies of Epic. NOBODY wants them, not even the chinese backers. The only ones who get it are those who simply don't care or are too ignorant to know how cancerous Epic is
Sure sonyfaggot. But can your mommy laptop even run games?
Isaac Taylor
Cuck.
Asher Wood
Epic is going to be a thing for a while. You can either seethe or profit from it. I've made an account and am collecting the free games they hand out, it costs me nothing but the time it took to make a new e-mail and save my new credentials in the password manager.
Nicholas Taylor
>implying you can only be a cuck for epic >valve cuck is not a cuck
Lucas Martinez
They're console tards.
Grayson Walker
Epic own the store and they have no share holders. Epic has a deal with the publisher and developer via millions of dollars. They can "buy" a billion epic game codes of shenmue 3 if they want, it costs nothing and if the press believe it then they can spread it all over the internet.
It's scummy but there is no law against it.
Jeremiah Young
>not even the chinese backers ebic is not a chinese company stop this meme
Julian Adams
epic is now even more hated than EA
Jose Barnes
epic does have shareholders majority stake is tim but there's also 40% owned by tencent
Landon Powell
Epicfags are low vision steam/valve haters. And, in their mind, the best way to say fuck to valve is to support another company. Corporatefags are always like that.
David Hernandez
>Epic own the store and they have no share holders. That's a lie. >They can "buy" a billion epic game codes of shenmue 3 if they want, it costs nothing and if the press believe it then they can spread it all over the internet. The shill journos are either paid or natural contrarians.
The chink meme is forced by valve drones, they will continue with that bullshit until day lose :) Daily reminder gaben is more Chinese than epic will ever be, Tim has his shit under control, gaben on the other side is sucking chink dick since the WK accident (remodeled a skeleton hero so china doesn't cry any more,fired a loved western guy because china cried, sold kuku to chinks, sold ti9 to chinks, sold Dota 2 to chinks)
Daniel Hall
Only Epic's. Hell, Borderlands 3 will be exclusive of the Epic Games Store for 6 months only.
Dominic Harris
>Tim Sweeney: Tencent has been a great partner, they've helped us built the epic that it is today >Tencent has seats and the biggest say in the board of Epic >literally owns like 49% of Epic. JUST below half so you wouldn't be able to call it a chinese company :^)
>Tim Swiney the puppet: Uh-- u-hh EPIC IS TOTALLY AN AMERICAN COMPANY WE DON'T TAKE ORDERS FROM ANYONE *sweats profusely* *refuses to give sale numbers* *Changes terms of service* *Tells chinese government to lay low a bit*
Either underaged who don't know how shares work, or they pretend to be retarded, if Tencent has 40% of the shares, that means they're pretty much in majority everytime, very unlikely that the other 60% that are shared by many others are ALL gonna vote against the 40%
>49% ≠ 40% simple calculation,your IQ is on 80/90 lvl user get your life straight
Isaiah Mitchell
Epic is not a share holding you fucking retarded faggot, Tim sold 40 % of his shares and owns more than 50% of it, result: tencent is forced to throw money at him so he makes more money.
Brayden Harris
Actually the real number is 48% Wikipedia hasn't been updated and / or whoever filled it in is intentionally rounding it down
Elijah Campbell
You mean Tim is forced to cater to the 40% funding him.
Joseph Harris
Prove it.
Kayden Phillips
This Not this
Jack Brown
Not it's not you fucking faggot, holy shit you guys are beyond subhuman lvl >comes with the "Tim sold 49% of the buyable shares" I repeat get your life straight and learn basic reading+economy before you start to shit on successful people like Tim
Jacob Roberts
>Years ago everyone pirated, why not keep doing that? >FUCKING EPIC DRONE FUCK YOU! You're retarded my man.
>"The value of Epic, which is based in North Carolina and counts China’s Tencent Holdings and Walt Disney among its early investors, has soared from an estimate of $4.5bn in May. It was valued at just $660m in 2012 when Tencent bought a 48% stake."
I think it's pretty obviously fake considering not even WWZ has sold 400k units on the EGS and Epic was browsing about it selling 250k copies after a few weeks. Satisfactory would have to have sold over 150k units in a week, yet Epic said nothing aside from "congrats on a great launch" while highlighting WWZ's exact sales.
Angel Green
Lads the calicucks have found a way to always win, we've fucking lost bros.
Jordan Cook
How so ? Tell me what can a chink company do ? Going to an American court against an American company ? LMAO
Owen Murphy
Am I being trolled, you have to please shareholders.
Jackson Peterson
>Replying to yourself with fake sale numbers
Brody Anderson
>Nobody answers to your thread >Better screencap the OP and post it in another We're reaching seething levels that shouldn't be possible.
Matthew Richardson
And here we go >Bought an 48% Yes they bought an 48% stack that's 40% of the available shares now kill yourself unironically
Lincoln Peterson
Sell their stock and pull funding of course. Why waste money with court?
So its Epic copying valves tactics while adding their own chinese twist on things.
Jordan James
>Tell me what can a chink company do ? Pull their investment and tell Epic to eat a dick. Without that Tencent money, Epic is largely fucked, and you can say bye-bye to the EGS.
John Thomas
It's one shareholder with two chairman's against another shareholder who has more than 2 chairman + Tim is the CEO. Epic is not a typical share holding where the majority of the shares are in public/cooperation hand. Means they can force jackshit besides going to court.
