Did he love aeris?
Did he love aeris?
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No, but her bubbly personality was what he needed to pull him out of his funk
Reminder Aeris never met the real Cloud.
Fpbp
He seemed more obsessed with sephiroth
Cloud's the type of guy who only loves something when its gone. He only gave a shit about Aeris when she died, and suddenly he was all about her and loved her. He only gave a shit about Zack when he died, and dedicated himself to becoming him. Shit only means something to him if he loses it. Its why he wont be happy
No, but I did.
Based
These.
Thing is, why does Sephiroth obsess with Cloud in particular?
Homosexual tendencies
No, but he probably wanted to stick his doodoo in the that minority flower girl vajaiva.
Will they add temporary party members in Midgar since its just four until the very end with Red XIII?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie as party members.
He doesn't originally if I recall correctly, that comes much later
Her name is Aerith, you fucks.
He did.
Tifa fags can't cope with being a mere replacement
Who cares?
>replacement
>when his whole motivation since childhood was doing everything for her
>when he didn't walk out on Avalanche because she asked him not to
>when she's the one to help piece his mind back together from collapse
>when she's the one he fucks under the airship
>when they literally are raising kids together in AC
What in the fuck are you even on?
It's actually the other way around. Cloud is one obsessed with Sephiroth, the one didn't give a shit about him. He didn't even know his fucking name.
Remake is the ones that is trying to insert the ebin rivalry that previously wasn't there.
about as much as someone like cloud could. same with tifa. both will have died wasting time and feelings on a faggot
No.
At best, he had Zack's lingering affection to his teen gf, Aerifpth.
No, his Zack persona did. The real Cloud doesn't know Aeris.
Friendly reminder Zack was Aerith's crush, not boyfriend, yankees changed it to "boyfriend" because they love their fanfictions.
Only in AC and onward.
Reminder that the Cloud's personality doesn't change after he regains his memories
I love Yuffie
Are they going to run with the emo Cloud thing in the remake?
They had better fucking not, he was like that for only a short time in the original before nutting up, fucking Tifa and getting airsick again.
>Remake is the ones that is trying to insert the ebin rivalry that previously wasn't there.
I've seen lot of people bitching about this. How this Sephiroth is too KH. How it's stupid that he obsesses over Cloud now and etc. Did you all forget that Sephiroth we've seen isn't even real? It's just Cloud's own tulpa of him.
I don't know what parts will remake change and how will it handle Nuroth, but we can't give it a judge based on Cloud's fucking tulpa.
>devotes himself to Tifa after she almost dies in Mt. Nibel
You might be right.
Seph didn't give a fuck about Cloud. He only noticed him after Cloud used his autist strength to defeat him to his own shock at nibelheim and then because he got involved in the endgame shit
Understandable
The others old and/or whores
Yeah, she wrote 85 fucking letters to a "crush"
Yes, she was obsessed but he didn't give a shit about her as much as she gave about him.
Fuck off with that fan fiction
You guys think we'll get a way to ressurect her?
Do you remember the last battle in Crisis Core? The one memory Zack relies on when he's facing death is Aerith. That doesn't sound like he didn't give a shit about her.
Oh, I meant canon material, not meaningless post-canon FFVII bullshit. They made him a superfuckinghero when he was just Some Guy®.
i never plaid a final fantasy game
I guess that's the end of the discussion, then.
But I think whether you like it or not, FFVII goes far beyond the main game.
except that he stops being aloof
and starts caring for his friends
and he stops being edgy and moody
and he genuinely cares for the planet instead of working for cash
and he gains motion sickness and nausea
and he starts to make jokes
and he acts softer
Because Cloud was who "killed" him in Nibleheim. Their first encounter with Jenova in the ship surely didn't have him controlling her, reason why he doesn't recognize Cloud, but later on he constantly messes with his head for the purpose of obtaining the Black Materia since he was his best bet at getting it without relying on the Jenova pieces. Reason why at the very end Cloud has to kill his presence from his mind to be truly free of him.
You're right, Gackt was Sephiroth all along.
I just know that nu-Sephiroth looks like *ahm* certain pornstar. It's very uncanny and very distracting for me.
And Advent Children shits all over that.
They will make Cloud an emo in the Remake.
So whos the ieveitable secret boss in remake part 1 Yea Forums? Phantom sephiroth? Some fucking shinra robot thing?
>and he gains motion sickness and nausea
ACHKTUALLY, he always had motion sickness and nausea, he tells Yuffie about his time when he was a grunt and how he usually had to deal with travelling in small spaces.
twink boi pussi
I always assumed Sephiroth's whole obsession stemmed from Cloud throwing him into the Mako pit
You are describing Cloud's character development about 6 hours into the game. Except for the motion sickness thing. I guess that's a dealbreaker
Yeah well advent children sucks and is bad fan fic that ruins the ending anyway. If it's canon then it sucks and I'm gonna ignore it but in game it's just not the case.
It did. doesn't know what he's talking about and got all his gamr knowledge from faggots here.
Aerith*
You know, after 20+ years and god knows how many spinoffs, I could care less about how things were originally portrayed. I'm just happy to get back into all things FF7 with a fresh outlook.
Something was brewing. She was a friend who probably would have been more than a friend before too long.
>I just know that nu-Sephiroth looks like *ahm* certain pornstar.
Do I even want to know?
Sometimes it feels like I'm the only faggot on the entire Yea Forums that doesn't know any pornstar.
Smash Cloud>FF7R Cloud
This literally was already his personality.
Smash Cloud has a really weird face but I agree he's a better portrayal of the original.
Cloud has a moment of retard strength and throws Sephiroth into a chasm after being stabbed with his katana
>potential for new materia
>crisis core featured a Jump materia, along with cid's limit breaks being Jump variants in general
>will probably need to give cid some different dragoon-related abilities to pad out his moveset since everybody has unique shit in the ATB menu
>first aRPG in general to let us play as a fucking dragoon since we got cucked out of aranea's chapter of XV and the closest we've had otherwise is kain in dissidia
i'm excited for the 7 remake and i couldn't give less of a shit about cloud and sephritoh and aeris
because he was always cloud underneath, then those things that are hinted at finally start coming out
Either he loved her or he's a moron, both seem plausible
The fresh look is off though. She looks too old and worried. Aeris was happy and pretty energetic for someone coming from her background.
>they make him an emo
For the same reasons he was an emo in FF7: guilt, sadness and being ill. When Zack and Aerith make one last appearance, he forgives himself for the things he feels and goes back to caring and hopeful.
no he just wanted to lose his virginity
Actually Sephiroth knows Cloud can be of use because of what happened in the reactor, that's why he controls him from a distance. Sephiroth already had in mind to destroy the fucking world, I don't think he cared if he died in the process, so Cloud was just a detour in his plans.
Nah, she was a side piece. He really liked tittie fucking Tifa.
Who wouldn't?
>he thinks we're getting a jump Materia
Cid's gimmick will be he's the only character who can jump normally since no one else can. You can backtrack (only to parts in that particular FF7R version of course) once you get Cid and jump over specific obstacles in order to get sick new loot.
yeah yeah le epic don't-get-your-hopes-up-lower-expectations post fuck off i don't care i get to control a dragoon in a 3d space of an rpg for the first time
>tfw crossdressing Cloud wont make it in
How do you feel about the fact he's not gonna motherfuck Shera but he's gonna tip his fedora in the remake?
>backstory
>retconned in him fucking up the launch, her heroically coming in to fix his mistake and him blaming her anyway
There was a jump materia in the original game, wasn't there?
C'mon user, you at least have to know Sasha Grey, Stoya or James Deen.
They are quite popular and starred in mainstream films.
>falling in love with a literal whore
who does this?
>the part where Yuffie wants Cloud to sign a contract where she gets all of their materia
>neither of them can read it since they're on the Highwind
FF7 had a lot of gags I'm worried won't be transferred over
nope, dragoon-related abilities in general were only introduced in crisis core. otherwise the only way to use jump or lancet is with cid, which honestly surprised me since there were other things like yuffie's throw materia or the blue magic materia that could be equipped to anybody
>implying that's a reason to lower your expectations
user, that was not a negative post
you do realize how big jumping in an ARPG is, right
>midget after the town's bicycle
>joins the army to impress the bicycle
>nearly gets killed in the process just for a ho
Do you really need to ask?
If its any consolation, Yuffie, the Highwind, and none of the late game content will ever be produced.
I'm just not a porn person.
What do you do when you want to masturbate?
He makes jokes all the fucking time. He called Barret a bear wearing a marshmallow.
He stops fighting for money after the second reactor bombing
He cares about his friends within 3 hours, he dresses im drag to help Tifa, he storms Shinra tower to save Aeris, he fights through some stupid cave to help Red XIII meet his dad, gimme a fuckin break
Your list is bullshit
What does Yea Forums prefer, the Remake 2010s 3D meteor logo or the Advent Children 2000s hi-tech logo
Imagination.
>after posting this I realize the logo has a fucking bike wheel in it
But don't you get any references?
Yea. The whole point of the love triangle was for him to be divided. I mean the scene in your image is dripping with romantic associations (the princess carry and gently letting her down, albeit the context is perverse).
He loves Tifa too and they actually end up together
I really hope they make Yuffie actually relevant to the story this time. Vincent at least was a Turk and had a close connection to Sephiroth with him being in love with his mother, along having a special dialogue when fighting Hojo, but Yuffie has pretty much no reason to fight alongside Cloud's group other than to be a Materia Hunter. Not really asking for some forced tragedy, but at least make her feel relevant in the group.
never fall in love with prostitutes
Whoa
In the original game I always got the impression he barely knew whi Cloud was and had to remember or piece together who this kid was.
That's sort of her charm, though. Her motivation also makes way more sense than Cid's, which is "what the hell, I don't like Shinra much anyways"
In the development Tifa was added to be the “backup heroine”, so they added some shared history with Cloud to justify that. That’s what he means I think.
It does show desu
The original logo.
On the ship to Costa, the "Sephiroth" there absolutely doesn't have a clue who Cloud is, but whether or not that reflects on the main Sephiroth is debatable
I don't need a pornstar for that one.
I just never was into whole porn thing to give a shit about watching those. It doesn't work on me. Seeing some chick fucked by other dudes, scripted scene and some dude's dick... it kills my boner.
Why do people cling to this baseless theory? Every thread
He did not have Zack’s persona. He inserted himself into some of Zack’s experiences
>They will make Cloud an emo in the Remake.
Shut the fuck up if you dont have a clue about what you are talking about
not on the list or else everyone would answer that dummy
Cid wins his actual motivation after going to space with his whole speech of "the Planet is a small child lost and alone in this vast space crying for help. Someone has to help him, and that someone is us". He has some really needed development with both getting that motivation and finally forgiving Shera and apologizing for giving her so much shit all that time when she always cared about him.
He emulated Zack.
So he’s more open? That’s it? That’s what Aerith wanted actually
for the same reason Griffith obsessed over Guts
Cid joined the fight because against Shinra because they effectively grounded him after the failure of the first rocket launch that made Rocket Town.
So it’s not true Aerith never met the real Cloud, she met a guarded Cloud.
No, the part of him that thinks he's zach does.
Imagine how much better FF7 would be if Tifa was never added and Aeris lived like in the early concept stages
Why was Cloud chilling on top of the train for the bombing mission? The rest of the crew was in the cars. Why is this dumbass just riding the top? Was he trying to show off? He didn't even ambush anyone. Just does a sensless flip off the top. Whats his problem?
I suppose that's true, but that development wasn't around for him joining. He literally just says "okay you guys are crazy and I like crazy people".
literally me
Yes. Aerith was Cloud's true and only love.
Imagine how much better the world would be if you were never spawned. Now shutup and stop making me regret raping your mother.
LETS MOSEY
But he didn’t. Aeris even says this. It’s why the theory is dumb
He had no idea Zach and Aeris were fucking, and if he did he would assume she was ALREADY his girlfriend since he thinks he's Zach.
>thinking that crossdressing Cloud will be cut out
Retarded fujo. Griffith and Guts have actual past. Cloud was nobody in Sephiroth's life until the point in which he killed him. Even then the other one just gave a shit about nuking a planet because of his autism.
>Aerith
He carried himself with the confidence of someone he was not. He was Cloud but he thought he had the credentials of Zack, that definitely affected his personality.
Don't worry lads, they're remaking the game so new fans like yourselves can actually understand the plot this time.
He is ones and zeros. He can not love. Not even arguable like say an android. This game sucks by the way.
Impossible to say. Tifa was just added to be a backup heroine and it does show since her major development and contributions to the plot are Cloud related rather than truly her own struggles.
But she is very popar as a result of being such waifubait and Aeris dying (which is why they added her) is an iconic moment.
And leave Zack jacking off in heaven alone? They can't do that.
I really don't know who is the biggest cuck when it comes to Aerith, Zack or Colud?
>Zach and Aeris were fucking
They weren't though.
I hope but expect the worst
Aerith
Explain why he wouldn't think Aerith was his girlfriend if he thought he was Zach in the hypothetical situation he knew about their relationship.
Vincent.
Your theory has been contradicted by dialogue in the original game AND spinoffs like Crisis Core. There’s no chance for you.
Not the same as “emulating Zack”, he was emulating his idea of a badass first class soldier
Cloud hates Tifa
>Aerith
shame about that lisp, m8.
>he was emulating his idea of a badass first class soldier
...which was Zack...
Vincent literally was hardly even cucked, I swear to God this guy is radical as hell and spends all of his time sleeping
god
I see this thrown around a lot, but is true or just a meme? Cloud only has the memories of when he was with Zack and that what he acts upon. Cloud doesn't even know who the fuck Aerith is at the start of the game.
Can somebody turn off the zoomer spellcheck?
does cloud like anything?
This. This twink fuck will never learn.
>has a breakdown when she dies and talking about how much his heart hurts and stuff like that
>scene in pic has Cloud princess carry her and lay her down like a bride
I dunno, did he love her? He’s thick as a brick in disc 1 so I subscribe to this but even before then he shows overwrought concern over her wellbeing and loses his cool with her more than others
Nah. Cloud is going to be that sort of dorky emo who purposely looks off to the horizon and say something he thinks is epic while everyone else makes cracks at him acting like a weirdo
you're doing so many mental gymnastics for no fucking reason. cloud put on a zack mask because he lost his own. end of story, move the fuck on already.
neck yourself weeb
Just a stupid headcanon. Cloud only used Zack's actions as his own since he was too ashamed to admit he never got into SOLDIER, but what I believe is that he lied so much that he ended believing his own lie, reason why his memories are a complete mess which allows Sephiroth to manipulate him and trick him into being a puppet with fake memories.
cringe, aerisfag cope
It’s not true at all. On no level does it make sense. He does not think he is Zack at all. He does not emulate Zack’s personality. It would be impossible to emulate someone’s personality so well you copy things you never knew about them (like the women they like). And it’s been thoroughly contradicted numerous times now.
I'd assume its kind of hard not take notice of that guy who killed you
No. It was a fabricated and contrived identity. It was not Zack’s actual personality. As Crisis Core and Aeris’ own dialogue in the original game attest to.
She was a good friend
>Have Turks show up in the story as some menacing force
>Only really shows up once or twice in the story talking about unrelated stuff
>Have to option to completely avoid their fights until the end
>Final meeting can completely avoid the fight by saying it's over
What was the point of the Turks?
>quoting Aeris’ date dialogue is mental gymnastics
>thinking Cloud emulated another person to the point he has the same romantic interests as that person but still goes by his given name and not theirs... that’s fine
Cloud stole Zack's sword and resume, he didn't transplant his fucking brain into his body
Crisis Core is a fanfiction that came later and matters not. Genesis never happened, Zack had no mentor and the sword was always his.
They're able to move the story forward. They're also entertaining and I wish we got to know more about them. They also have a cool theme.
>people legitimately thinking Cloud wasn't emulating Zack and his idea of the perfect SOLDIER
Please stop referring to non-canon entries into the series. That means everything that isn't FF7.
Remember that part where Tifa find Cloud and he immediately changes into his new persona?
Good thing Aeris herself says Cloud is not like Zack then. I know how it goes, some spinoff contradicts your headcanon so it is not canon but this is from the original game
Also there is no definitive reason to actually believe he was copying Zack present in the game other than misunderstanding the revelation in disx 2
He was emulating Zack. He was not posessed by Zack's fucking ghost.
I’m also quoting Aeris’ date dialogue too. You guys don’t read so good. See
That's because Cloud is acting like a cheap knock off Zack. His real personality is fractured and his psyche filled in the gaps
No shit? Who is saying otherwise?
Actually I don't. Sauce?
I said he was emulating Zack but some sperg is vehemently denying Cloud was ever doing so.
Meant to say see I am curious what specifically makes them think he was emulating Zack. What do they base this on? All Cloud says is he incorporated some of Zack’s experiences (that Zack told him about) into his own delusion
They claim he thinks he's Zack so he should stick his tongue in Aerith's mouth because why wouldn't he remember his own gf?
Some people think that Cloud literally absorbed Zack's memories.
Instead Cloud just took the stories that Zack told him during his coma and combined that with his ideas of what a first class soldier would be and that was the basis of this new identity.
He was not emulatong Zack. You got nothing to say he was, while I have quotes saying he was not. You’re just a moron lol.
In Tifa’s flashback she finds Cloud in the gutter and when she approaches he pops up and starts acting like “cocky badass Cloud”
What a bitch.
She best not be the most fun magic caster in the remake or I'll be pissed. Ideally I want to play as Red XIII slinging magic all day.
>Vincent literally was hardly even cucked
>his waifu literally fucked by Hojo to produce Satan
>>hardly even cucked
so would you say he was...emulating Zack?
Hojo is the biggest Chad in FF
Even more than Steiner or Golbez
Inb4 someone tries to force their dumb theory about Vincent being Sephiroth's "real" father instead of Hojo.
He was larping to the best of his autism, see he literally suppressed his own memories and absorbed whatever he knew about Zack.
>chad
>literally erased the human race
Someone is probably fucking your one time crush right now. You are not that much of a cuck
Waking up from a coma in response to a familiar voice? How is he changing his persona? Not sure how this is supposed to support the idea that Cloud absorbed Zack's conciousness or whatever
Aeris
The part of him who thought he was Zack might have.
7:00
Aeris says Cloud looked like Zack and had some of his mannerisms which caught him off-guard but then adds he’s actually different. And also adds that he’s hiding himself away and she’d like to know him better. It’s cut and dry.
He loved Aerith but not Aeris
Well that's their mistake then because he was only emulating PARTS of Zack
I'm not saying he was 100% emulating him cunt, I'm saying he was broken and used what he knew of Zack to not be a vegetable
He never thought he was Zack. And he vertainly never knew Zack was into Aeris, or girls like Aeris. This is dumb.
That's an even worse theory than saying Cloud wasn't emulating Zack.
yeah good luck getting porn at aerithdies you retard
No. Even what little we see of Zack in VII's flashbacks don't really match up to early Cloud.
Yea whatever, walk it back. Emulating means “matching” so pick a better word next time.
And nothing he knew of Zack involved Aeris so your position has no bearing on this subject if that’s whatbuou think
>Not sure how this is supposed to support the idea that Cloud absorbed Zack's conciousness or whatever
That's because it doesn't, as I wasn't saying that. Jesus fucking Christ, I'm saying he absorbed his fucking spirit. Cloud was fucked up mako poisoning and trauma, his psyche was fucked, and he snapped up when Tifa arrived.
Have you ever known someone with multiple personalities? They just come on all of a sudden, again not saying that is what happened to Cloud. I'm saying the trauma left holes in his psyche that childhood ideals and time around Zack filled in. Fuck....
Except he GOT KEKED! There is a difference between...
>I used to date this girl. We broke up and moved on and now we don't give a shit about each other.
and...
>I wanted to marry this girl, but she left me for some fugly ass creepy scientist dude and I had to watch that, while crying in the corner and sounding like a beta about it.
Zack is chummy. Early Cloud was not. That too.
>Emulating means “matching” so pick a better word next time.
It literally doesn't. Are you the fucking ESL I had to deal with last time?
EMULATE
TO MIMIC, TO COPY
CLOUD FUCKING COPIED ZACK IN SOME ASPECTS OF HIS LIFE. HE LITERALLY COPIED AND PASTED HIS ENTIRE LIFE'S RESUME INTO HIS MAKO FRIED BRAIN.
CLOUD EMULATED ZACK
Did you actually watch the video? The part when as soon as he calls her name he starts having a mako seizure that leads him into changing to a completely different demeanor like he's some big shot, striking a pose and all that?
Did you miss the "5 years"? To CloudZack it was 5 years because that's when he got to know her, to Tifa it was 7 years.
You are so incredibly dumb. Google defines emulating as matching and dictionary.com does not differ from this assessment
But y'know who will?
Gackt
I don't get it. Please continue to patiently explain your position to me.
They made his eyes and hair smaller in the remake. fucking REEEE
We are talking about Aeris. Cloud knew nothing of Zack and Aeris, so saying Cloud emulated Zack in a discussion about Aeris and then walking back to this clarification which precludes any knowledge of Aeris is incredibly dumb.
But I’m used to that
... cloud was in the tank too. So it would be 5 years for him as well. He’s patching his memory with some of what Zack shared with him but not absorbing and projecting Zack’s personality. That’s the difference.
You stupid motherfucker. Cloud said 5 years because he was at Nibelheim. Tifa didn't know he was a grunt so she thinks she hasn't seen him since the well promise.
how do you think they'll handle Cid? Or the time cloud fucking punches Tifa a bunch of times in the face?
no he won't shut up
How is that in any way comparable to Vincent's literal cuck case? Ex is called ex for a reason. You used to fuck, but not anymore. Vincent on another hand loved Lucrecia and wanted to be with her, but got cucked by Hojo in every possible way and he's still seething about it.
I said "crush", not "ex". How did two different people get that wrong?
They'll have him curse occasionally but no abusing Shera. It'll probably be more passive aggressive treatment for her. Shit like Cloud punching Tifa, Tseng slapping the fuck out of Aeris will all be cut.
So Cloud emulated Zack's fondness of Aeris.
Thanks for playing.
How can he emulate something he doesn't know existed, you idiot?
He actually punches Aerith's but even in the original his fists are hitting where her legs are so it’s easy to say it was just a meltdown (which would still rattle her obviously)
When did Cloud punch Tifa ?
Proof? Asked for that a few times. Go type in caps some more.
Or their feelings for someone he never knew a thing about. They have no proof for this assertion beside wanting to believe it
I feel like i vividly remember him punching Tifa
Also what will they do about Aeris about to take dog penis?
See
I think they'll have Hojo talk about it and be over the top about it while Red sits passively in his corner of the tank.
I think this is actually the closest answer to the truth. He was attracted to her that for sure, but after she died his feelings grew stronger to what you call "love". Which add with a sense of guilt over her death
Isn't this the point of a love triangle? if one of the two girls dies, the others one is destined to become a cuck of some sort.
It's 2019 and Squeenix is making the game, backed by nu-Sony. How do you think they'll handle him
That will be cut. It never made any sense to me why Hojo would think a dog tiger thing could breed with a cetra.
May change it to him wanting the sport of watching her run from a savage beast.
>Jessie ask Cloud in the demo what his relationship with Tifa is
>White noise thing appears
>tfw Nomura is already hitting on real Clouds feelings for her
People thought that the remake might shit on their relationship, but I get the feeling that it will make it more obvious that he had a thing for her since the start of the game
well yeah he loved her, zack loved her so
Pretty much. And Kitase said he wanted the MC to experience losing something they loved with aerith’s death. Cloud is thick as a brick in disc 1 so it fits with him not opening up except in a moment of extreme anguish.
They'll probably imply something and then the moment Hojo leaves, Red will tell Aeris that he means her no harm, instantly diffusing the situation.
God I forgot how many fucking weird things and moments are in FF7. It really was a different time.
DoC also added his fucking father into that mess, cementing Vincents role as the ultimate cuck
Yet they're adding another love interest who will also die tragically.
You know that scene in the Bahamut fight in AC? Where Cloud sees Aerith's death overlayed on top of Tifa when he saves her? In AC: Remake, it'll be Jessie overlayed on top of Aerith overlayed on top of Tifa
I’d be kinda shocked if it did that desu. I think having Tifa be back-up heroine was Nomura’s idea
No.
How could anyone love the weakest and most useless character in the fucking game.
>All bitches throwing themself at Cloud
B A S E D
I'm not the one seething eternally about it though. Therefore I can't relate to Vincent I'm afraid.
That’s so awful I can see it. I just realized, in the original game Jessie liking Cloud is unreciprocated (except as a friend or nice guy). Which is useful because it contrasts with how he treats Tifa and Aerith. Cloud’s muted emotions in disc 1 would make it hard to communicate that otherwise.
>IT's the leading lady/back up heroine autist
oh boy
Based hojo was trying to make real life catgirls and you shame him like this?
Aerith had the best magic
not that it matters, every character in FFVII can be OP because FFVII is easy as shit
This is what worries me the most about the remake adding a shitton of content. Does the story really need all this extra fluff tacked onto it? They don't even know how many episodes the thing will be so it's clear they aren't planning all that far ahead, god knows how much nonsense and filler will be tacked onto an already lengthy game.
I think it's pretty obvious from basically every time Cloud mentions Aeris after she died that he loved her. I think it's frankly ridiculous to believe elsewise. And that's okay Tifafags, because he loves Tifa too.
well yeah, 99% of JRPGs require zero skill. it's just a numbers game.
I think if you want to be hyper technical the worst character is probably Vincent, who has the worst stats (which doesn't matter in FFVII) and the worst Limit Breaks (somewhat matters)
We don't see if he gives a shit about Jessie in the trailers though. He could very well not.
Never used the term leading lady, backup heroine is paraphrasing Nomura. Dunno why you detest it so, it proves she was gonna get with Cloud as a foregone conclusion. But you’re probably dimwitted.
They need something to end disc one (kinda like Aeris death did in the original)
he has mug and overflow though
Did we get confirmation on whether normal attacks have combo routes or if they're just canned animations?
Vincent ends up being the strongest because of a weird overflow glitch at endgame, but it takes quite a bit of grinding to reach that point.
The whole point of having a love triangle is he has feelings for both. But he gets with Tifa, and they have more shared history to foreshadow this while Aeris’ more bubbly personality seems to break through Cloud’s exterior more to make the player think it will be them (so it hurts more when she dies). It’s all very well done
autist
There's no way Vincent has the worst limit breaks, I'm pretty sure his ultimate casts Death over and over
Same. Hope not, not because I’d hate the idea itself (though he does not need another lost love) but it shows they’re outright adding fanfic-y stuff rather than just making reasonable expansions
but Jessie is literally the SECOND love interest who will die terribly. Surely there's better ways to pad it then turning this already complicated love triangle into a love square
Enjoy Part 3 when it comes out in Oct. 2024.
Maximilian released a pretty solid video about his hands on impressions of the demo. Apparently you can just hold the attack button down for canned combos, but there did seem to be branching moves depending on if you delay your button presses like DMC combos. Other than that we don't really have any official confirmation.
I wouldn't get your hopes up for combo paths, but they did mention different types of ability attacks that are for different situations... also you know... sauce pls.
It does not. His limit breaks suck in the end game because you cant control them. If they made Chaos more like Trance then that would solve the problem.
I'm almost positive he won't. I mean go back and watch Jessie's final words to him. Kinda hard to make that fit if he showed any interest in her
Wait a second this thread just made me realize something
controlling Vincent is going to be badass because his limit breaks transform him into monsters
being able to control those monsters is the big question
There's a lot of interesting ways to make it cool. Like people have mentioned, just making it directly a Trance thing is a fantastic idea, but you could do a lot with it.
She's actually pretty overpowered
Nigga, all of avalanche gets squashed on top of the entire sector 7, seems like it's gonna to be a pretty heavy moment
There's the recognition of him killing him at the reactor but he didn't really obsess about him. I think it's more that Cloud was vulnerable to his control and unlike all the other 'clones', Cloud was strong enough to actually make it too him and deliver the black materia.
Plus it's possible that some of Cloud's hallucination and the like weren't actually Seph messing with him but his fragile mental state cracking at reminders. Some obviously were but maybe not all.
Yeah, of course they should make it heavy. It was in the original game. But from the looks of it they're pushing Jessie the hardest and you just have to wonder why
If the developers make him uncontrollable they are the biggest idiots in the world
during which part of the 8 hours you have her in your party was does this happen
defintly,i have never doubt that
I remember there was this Android game about Cloud riding his bike and fighting monsters. Shit lasted like 8 months in Japan and never made it in the Americas.
I forgot what was it called, G something. G-Bike?
Probably, but he wasn't in love with her. He was, and is, in love with Tifa.
She is the upgraded Aeris
This, Sephiroth didn't give a single fuck about Cloud, even after he stabbed him and put him in a coma, it was only when Cloud insisted on continuing to fuck with his plans he said "fuck this" and killed his gf.
He says he wants to kill himself to be with her while Tifa's tits are pressed against him.
what the fuck do you think
Yeah, G-bike.
Aeris isn't a fucking nerd.
Considering she have the most overpowered Limit Break available in the game.
>People don't realize that Cloud is making literally shit up
>in his mind he and Sephiroth are arch Nemesis
>just for him to later realize that Sephiroth doesn't know him and doesn't give a fuck about him
>which will be a major catalyst for his mindfuck in the later in the game
Screencap this
>Official Squareenix twitter posted this on Valentines day
>the subject war iconic couples through the series
hurr durr
user, it was already like this in the original game
Because of you I'm downloading this fucking game tonight, just so I can RAPE you every fucking day. I was already planning on it to wash the taste of this bad news out of my mouth but my fucking PSP won't charge anymore. So emulation on the PC, good times.
Mother fucker I swear to God I will break you before this month ends
do you think Cloud is going to fall from the top of the Sector 5 plate into the church where Aeris is in the Remake
it always bothered me how he survived that
>Tifa and Cloud sitting in Northern Crater after fighting Sephiroth, world is ending
>Tifa's big tiddies pressed up again Cloud, she's cozied up to him ready to give him an end of the world BJ on his word
>only thing out of his mouth is he can't wait until they're dead so he can see Aerith again
Imagine being Tifa in that moment though
Zack did it too, Cloud has to stop being a pussy
I'll put $20 on Shera beating up Cid and belittling him, having to teach him the lessons etc
Just got back from playing the VII REMAKE demo yesterday, here's some details about combat.
>You can hold Square to attack with Cloud, the animations are entirely different to tapping square
>tapping square does his regular combo, but changing the timing of your button presses changes the combo too, at the very least i can guarantee that the 2nd and the last attack in his combo string can be changed to something different if you change your button press timing
>You can only go into tactical mode if you have at least 1 ATB bar full
>you can use tactical mode freely outside of combat without needing ATB bars at all and using items outside of combat costs nothing but in combat items cost ATB, Spells cost ATB and MP and special moves cost ATB, limits don't cost ATB
>regular attacks aren't as underpowered as they seem in trailers and footage, at the start of the demo it seemed like my regular attacks were only useful for building up ATB bars but after gaining 2 levels i went from doing 13 damage to guard dogs and 18~20 damage to shinra soldiers to doing 40~60
>the same goes for the scorpion sentinel boss fight, i saw people who rushed to it doing chip damage until they staggered it, while my damage wasn't insane it was way beyond what they were doing and therefore my Scorpion Sentinel was going into Stagger a LOT faster
>Stagger seems to have a damage threshold
>in more detail, you stagger an enemy after doing a certain amount of damage, the amount seems to be pre-set, so you can stagger a weak enemy in 1 hit if you do enough damage
>Stagger on enemies is the same, you can only do a certain amount of damage before they go back to normal
Overall it was fun as fuck, if Midgar is meaty and huge with meaningful content instead of boring fetch quests this will be a very good game.
how is it overpowered? because it's full heals + invincibility for a second?
it's fucking useless, especially considering nothing on disc 1 is even remotely a threat even worth using that limit break. if it carried onto the rest of the game, sure, I'd side with you, but it doesn't. she's useless.
Yes I did.
It completely restores all MP too
>if SE manages for the first time in its nearly 20 year history to make side quests that don't suck then it won't suck
Yeah, about that
You are actually explaining why it’s overpowered. She has an Emerald and Ruby level limit break early on
Cloud literally tells her 5 minutes latter that his new life will be okay because he has now Tifa with him. I think you are kinda interpreting your own boner for Aerith on to Cloud, user
>this will be a very good game
>Squaresoft in the year of our Lord 2019
How does Cloud resemble Zack in anyway beside his uniform and sword desu?
Zack is tall, Cloud is short
Zack has black hair, Cloud is blonde
Zack has deep blue eyes, Cloud has green
Zack is nice and easy going guy, Cloud is a dickhead and mostly keel his distance from people.
That’s disc 2 actually. And on the highwind deck. When everyone has left. Morale boost.
Why is it people cant stomach the idea he had feelings for two lovely ladies?
Their brain is as dead as she is, no way to reach them
I just started playing FF7. What does changing to the back row do? I just got Materia to do full damage from the back so i'm guessing you take less damage but do less when you move a character to the back? Are there any times where moving to the back row is really useful?
He gay
you've got issues
Tifa did come along later, and only starts to have a lot of plot relevance after Aeris' death.
What if he fell in "love" with Aeris while still having his fractured persona? He doesn't sort himself out until much later. He's broken for most of the game, then finally comes full circle. It's actually a nice story I don't know why people shit on it
Don't play with my heart user, after XIII, XV and KH3 I'm very fragile
Back row=take less damage, but melee attacks do less damage. Long range attacks do full no matter what.
You take less damage and do less. There's also some stuff that only works against those in the back row. Get out of here before you're spoiled
Sorry m8 I just don't see it, by the time you can get great gospel, you already have access to the White Wind and Big Guard enemy skills, and you can cast those any time you want (and keep doing it throughout the game).
aeris is a good waifu but not worth an active party slot.
Aerith’s armor and physical damage is not noticeably worse than anyone else’s so you can put her in front row desu. I assume that’s why you ask.
Barrett has ranged attacks so backrow just makes sense for him
>Why is it people cant stomach the idea he had feelings for two lovely ladies?
I don't understand OTPfags, it's tumblr level faggotry.
Aeris loved Zack and then Cloud. It's entirely plausible that Cloud loved Aeris and then Tifa. People can move on. Or adults at least, maybe underages are just highlighting themselves.
It’s more believable to say he re-realizes his feelings for Tifa than to say his feelings for Aerith were insincere. Imo.
It’s standard love triangle writing, especially when one girl is much less assertive, to have the girl who seems to occupy the hero’s affections early on not work out and he rediscovers the girl who also had feelings for him and that she’s good (and in some cases better) for him.
This also fits with Tifa’s main arc: struggling to communicate her feelings.
>aeris is a good waifu but not worth an active party slot.
says you, I always have her in my party when I can. You don't get her the entire game, gotta make the most of it.
Just stick everyone in the back row unless you want to get their second limits for a level. Physical damage is ridiculously bad in FF7 compared to magic/summons, so the building limit is the only reason to stick them in the front row.
She's just a homewrecker
Home wouldn't get wrecked if Cloud never left it.
>but not worth an active party slot.
*Temple of the Ancients Appears to Fuck You*
And her magic stats make magic more OP. FF7 is easy so it almost does not matter who is in your party at all, and the characters do not differ much. So I take her along for story reasons
The nigga who wrote the original story made novels to explain what happened with the characters after the game ended. And one of the story literally explains that Cloud is fucking happy to start a new life with Tifa. It's him who encourage her to settle down. This doesn't sound like a man who wants to kill himself so he can be with some other chick in the after life
I’ve always held that he loved both. I prefer Aerith but I think Tifa is a good fit for him and the fact that Zack gets his girl back means it works out.
I only get rankled when one side of this detente oversteps itself.
well considering Tifa didn't really care about Cloud until he left Nibelheim...
they formed a connection after sticking their long iron hard rods into each other
Well not insincere but if the source is fucked up i.e. his brain and persona then it might be a little twisted, but I don't deny his feelings for her.
>This also fits with Tifa’s main arc: struggling to communicate her feelings
Classic childhood friend
Tifa should not have said they were just friends. Since I doubt the intent was to suggest Aeris is malicious and Tifa and she were really friendly
He obviously had also feelings for Aeris, the argument here was if Cloud wanted to off himself at the end of the game to be with Aeris, which is fucking retarded
I will admit that the demon wall was not fun with an underleveled aeris lol
He looks so good in it. I wish we had a full game like this
She did, she just didn't know it yet. It's a Mary Jane thing. Which I guess would make Aeris Gwen.
Looks fucking gay dude
Wut? Nibel reactor and the library were already there, meaning Sephiroth would still have been sent out to kill monsters, read the research notes, and go crazy, Cloud being some low level grunt had literally zero to do with what happened
I didnt say he wanted to kill himself, just pointing out you were mistaken. And the novels get constantly considered non-canon so I don’t 100% trust them. But I also have no problem saying Cloud was happ after moving on
demo user here, i don't know if 7R will be any good but i can tell you for sure that at least the combat in the demo was already better than XV's and KH3's combat, even if you compared it to their end game.
If i had to describe it in one word, it'd be "satisfying" and i haven't felt this for a combat in a SE game since KH2. It just felt good to hit shit and do special skills and being able to switch characters on the fly also felt great.
aww thats one for the "Kino" Folder. Thanks.
I didn't mean the literal home, you retard. I mean the relationship.
You do, it's called Advent Children. You get cool abilities like pause, play, rewind, and fast forward.
but where are the tiddies
it's usually Tifafags, lets be honest. They view the game as a love story and a lot dislike that Aeris exists
Yea I dont believe that. I think he has an idea of using the lifestream to get some closure with Aeris. Because he has regrets and loved her, etc etc and it keeps him from moving on with Tifa who he has feelings for as well.
I think AC was right to continue this theme but fucked up the execution hardcore
I like Aeris. I dislike people saying she liked Cloud. She didn't even know the real Cloud.
squall is the better emo
Waifufags suck and reality burns them.
i secretly wonder how many oldfags have come back to argue with each other after going silent on aerith v tifa like 15 years ago and how many are just zoomers picking a fight they weren't even involved with/alive at the start
How much button mashing are you doing in every fight? Because the footage shows those attack buttons getting abused pretty much always.
Cloud was just a premature little shit who already wanted benis into bagina while Tifa was still obvious to lewdness
she seemed to care while they sat around that water tower
I did not want to say it. Not to say there are not autistic or mistaken aerisfags (I’ve been wrong about things myself) but they usually don’t start nothin neither
Needs bigger tits
Yes she did. Cloud's personality is not 1:1 Zack. It's much more cynical and snarky.
>Go to the afterlife to be cucked by Zack.
Aries is cute and all, but he's better off with Tifa.
She was with him for Advent children. She knew who he was. And Zack too
How much do you think Tifa charged that one dude for a handjob
She wanted to though. That’s an expression of liking for me.
Yea it’s super obvious the game devs wanted to early push you toward Aeris (and involve the player in that process) so it hurts more when she dies. And Tifa comes along as a well set-up “alternative” (who is not actually the alternative of course)
I'm an oldfag, I didn't realize I was going to have to defend my waifu though. I think the zoomers are the ones saying things like "Oh my God imagine saying this to your parents?!??!?" and stupid shit like that.
Those Aeris-fags though...I don't want to talk about THEM
I think this about the Evangelion waifu wars a lot since they're basically the poster child. Are there people in those threads who have been doing it since Yea Forums launched, daily? Like it's a part of their routine
In the original story board from the game Cloud doesn't seem to be devastated either, user. Also the novels are the prequel to AC so I rather trust them than some random nigga on the internet desu
>defending a literal prostitute
Yikes
ZOOMER SQUAD RISE UP
Are you talking about "the flower girl"?
This would have been so cute.
>potential for new materia
I'm hoping for Aero and Water materia, there were only E. Skill and Summons for sources of water and wind damage.
In normal encounters you can button mash your way to victory pretty easily, at least that early in the game you can.
In the Scorpion Sentinel boss fight button mashing leads to you getting facefucked, that thing has a shitload of different movesets and carelessly approaching it is a dumb move. I generally noticed that after he shots some rockets he has a cool down period that you can approach and charge up your ATB bars fast but each phase has him doing different shit so it's hard to find his openings your first time through.
What i gathered is that you'll probably be able to hack and slash normal enemies pretty easily with some exceptions but even then you'll have to switch characters to do so because Cloud can't reach all the enemies. Bosses are going to be challenging though.
I think a novel said all the boys did that, which kinda makes sense I guess but also ruins it. They should just let the audience assume they grew close regardless of what Tifa’s dad said
Yeah that whore, I wonder what I could get for $5
>real time switching characters
>ATB bullshit
>chip damage
Boy it just sounds great
Aerith had a hard life
You forgot that you can immedialty catch up with Aeris points in just like 5 mins from the very beginning with 4 dialogue .
>Scorpion Sentinel
can't believe they changed Guard Scorpion's name. Next they're going to change Midgar Zolom back to that dumb German name it was supposed to be
this shit is so great
Actually it’s been a mostly civil discussion between Aeris fags and Tifafags now that some characters have left the building
having unreachable enemies could really kill your party comp later on unless they force you with certain members like early ff13
That art style is truly horrible. FE has a better-looking gacha game than FF?
She really did. She’s a real cinnamon roll with that added detail. Always makes me kinda sad how relatively neglected she is by the fanbase
i already said here that chip damage isn't really a huge issue when you gain a few levels, the trailers are misleading.
She really did. She’s a real cinnamon roll with that added detail. Always makes me kinda sad how relatively neglected she is by the fanbase
You have to be a dick to aeris and some of Tifa’s options are a little counterintuitive. It’s how they push you toward Aeris. Tifa is something you do on your next file now that you know she’s the one who sticks around
Heh. My bad.
Even though I don’t disagree with you. Such petty fragile pride
Opera Omnia and Record Keeper have a cute artstyle
Will they add the 1/35 Soldiers as collectibles to troll everyone from the original game because they had literally no reason to exist and did nothing?
That actually sounds pretty neat.
Now about unreachable enemies, let's say cloud has access to Thunder, can he still cast it on far away targets or can these enemies only be engaged by ranged characters?
>barret
retard
Yeah I have to wonder how often that is going to be a thing. If you have a preference towards all melee, get fucked unless they force a ranged to come to ranged encounters, or you can switch in that Long Range materia on the fly.
This. He loved them both but ultimately Tifa is the one who works best for him, which allow Zack t get his girl back as well. I think it's a pretty good conclusion IMO.
Well, I mean... if the game is going to be all Midgar
>Cloud, Tifa - close range
>Barret, Aeris - long range
you could just mix and match whoever better fits the situation
No wtf, no need to be a dick to Aeris so that Tifa catch up to her :
Give her the flower +5
Accept the drink that she offers to you +5
Showing that you cared about the promise that Cloud made to her +5
And flirt with her after sleeping +5
That makes 50, easy.
Zack and Cloud had a homosexual love affair more powerful than vagina
Red is also in Midgar
aeris is clearly melee in the video attacking enemies with her staff
>Zack and Aeris are dead, there is no happy end for them.
It’s a well balanced love triangle. It really is. With the deaths and the differential personalities. It’s good.
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So lucky
yeah but he's at the tail end, have to wonder if that's what's going to happen in this game because it'd be weird to get him at the very end of the game
I do not recall those giving her + 5 and you I think you forget being nice to aeris gives her points too so you do have to be kind of a dick
dive in
Given that the combat designer is the same guy how designed KH2 I guess that makes sense
>being nice to girls like Tifa make them like you more
I loved FFVII lying to all the impressionable young boys in the audience
It's in all in the wiki finalfantasy.fandom.com
And you can easily lose 5 points to Aerith by saying that Tifa is your girlfriend.
Yes. And he wanted to do anal or doggy-style but that asshole with god-tier eyes Sephiroth cockblocked him.
Aeris is long ranged you blind fuck, she throws small balls of energy
Why does Cloud imagine Sephiroth with such inviting, soft, kissable lips?
Different localization team, obviously. Cross Slash also isn't called Cross Slash anymore. One article called it "multi-hit strike" or something.
That's a good question, and I can't really think of any other way to introduce his character than what we already know
fpbp
Don Corneo knows his stuff.
>multi-hit strike
seriously there are just some things that don't need to be fixed
she's meleeing in the newest trailer dumb cunt
It’s still easier to amass points with Aeris. Idk what to tell you. Most people get Tifa after learning you can influence the date, so my point you are pushed toward Aeris stands. As is the simple fact she starts with more points.
Dunno what’s being argued.
rewatch it, it looks like that because she's chuuni about it but she's firing balls of energy
>they're going to make the localization totally fucking gay and anime tropey because it will be """""more accurate"""""
>Tifa will never call the big nig running behind her a retard in 4K
>getting your head bashed in by your bitch is lucky
tell me about your mother, user
>cunt
No wonder you're retarded you goddamn aussie, she is ranged and you're blind. You can even see her shooting orbs hitting Sahagins in both the state of play trailer and this one.
>implying the dating game means anything
retard
I'll miss some of it, but FF7's localization is unironically pretty bad
I can't wait for it to be a secret game over that if you get the high enough points to date Yuffie the cops show up and arrest Cloud
No the game don't push you to Aeris, you can easily win points with Tifa as you can lose to Aeris.
The why bicker about it. Your own source even says in the events of ties Aeris gets top priority. Just accept I a right, you’ll be a lot happier than this pointless flailing action.
Even in KH, Cloud tries to avoid Tifa and all his friends as much as he can. However he's so damn thick that he'd be all about them if any of them was actually in trouble or died, it would fuck him up, but he won't be around them. He refuses to look like he gives a shit until its already over.
He's a guy that leads to his own bad ends because he refuses to care or show that he cares until its too late. Which is why he needs someone like Tifa who's pretty stubborn and chases him down to save his ass despite him trying to fuck himself up at every step of the process.
user didn't you hear? They're making Yuffie's age 18 so as to not upset Western audiences.
>in the event of a tie Arris always wins
>people usually get aeris their first playthrough
Yea no. There are also more points to gain with Aeris after midgar and you have to be a jerk to Aeris to lose points, which few people do.
>and Everyone ITT
Unironically this
.... whatever
What is his deal in KH? I hear he and Aeris are an item in those games (but are hardly the same characters anyway) so what is Tifa?
Not even that user, retard
>2002
Peak Nomura.
Cloud's a dark loner in KH who refuses to be with anyone, and Tifa is on a journey to track him down and hunt him down to get him to stop being an emo fuck.
I don't remember Aerith doing shit in that game much.
FF characters are canceled from KH
Everyone noticed Hardedge in the new trailer but eagle eyed Anons would also notice that Aeris has her.... uh...? What is this thing? It doesn't look like the Guard Stick or the Mythril Rod
You can understand my pessimism though yes? I've been burned.
Cloud was unironically, canonically gay. The whole story is an allegory for him coming to terms with his cocklust for Sephiroth.
Yes he loved her. Maybe not romantically like she did for him but he clearly cared for her deeply. Anyone saying otherwise is a Tifafag.
Dating an under 18 year old as an over 18 year old is still illegal in Japan despite what dumbfucks would have you believe
Tifa isn't a real person in KH she was a metaphor for Clouds light still being with him. Like Sephiroth was a metaphor for his darkness
this is what people mean when they say Tifafags look at things through Tifa colored glasses
Tifa and Cloud is my favorite video game couple. They balance each other
It's not certain if Tifa exists as a real person in KH. She might just be an aspect of Cloud in the same way Sephiroth is.
>Tifafag
B A S E D
To be fair, retcons show us that Aerith was always really for Zack, and Cloud was only into her because he "became Zack". Even her death gets tied to Zack.
Cloud himself is more thematically tied to Tifa as the flashbacks show. Him joining the army and making a promise with her, and her being the one that saves him.
If you're just debating the original story that's one thing, but retcons change shit.
He was in love with Yuffie
That voice acting tho
>retcons
We won't know what retcons are real until the game part 1 of 800 anyway is released because niggerhead over at SE said they are not considering the Compilation as it currently exists as canon anymore.
B A S E D
>some guy
>makes it to fucking SOLDIER 1st class
>pumped full of mako and jenova cells
>stronger than Cloud
keep in mind all the ridiculous shit cloud did and he was a washout whereas zach passed with flying colors he wasnt just some random average joe. he was a peer of sephiroth. not as strong obviously but still significantly stronger than a normal human
We already got some references for Crisis Core tho
Even his "death scene" revolves around Tifa trying to help him with Sephiroth to show he isn't alone and can't tackle his problems alone since he has friends.
Guy is an emo fuck to be fair. He could have dealt with Sephritoh easily if he relied on others more.
Little strange. I’dhave put Aeris in that position as an homage to the early idea she and Sephiroth would be siblings. But idk how it turned out. Leave Tifa as love interest. Maybe it was some non-canon Clerith fanservice.
They don’t really act this way in the games sadly
I swear there was some Yuffie 3d porn that made me blow huge loads back in the day
New love triangle
No they do not. If anything retcons show this theory is wrong.
Other way around bro
I want the option to save aerith in the remake.
That's what fan art is for, some of the best things came after the games/animes/movies what have you. Not just talking about FF7. It used to be a simple instruction booklet drawing was enough to send artists into a magical realm, where hips move on their own
wat
2005 was a dark time for Cloud in general. He was so fucking gay and edgy it was almost insufferable
>He loves Tifa too and they actually end up together
Except they don't.
I think they're going to make it more obvious this time around because Jessie wonders about how close Cloud is with Tifa and the screen gets distorted whenever someone mentions it. I do think that Zack and Aerith make a great pair but I'm worried they'll change her personality into some virginal, pure, flower girl like what the recent material depicts her.
shit bro, every single cloud scene in KH can basically be boiled down to 11 minutes.
youtube.com
Cloud's story-line is just him searching for a guy called Sephroth, while a girl named Tifa is searching for Cloud. And they can't find each other. Cloud is half lost to the darkness and has a wing for some reason, but he still has some light deep down.
Please for the love of God let one good thing come out of this new game. And if that one thing was pictures of Tifa bullying Yuffie with her tits then I will be satisfied
That would ruin the game so I'm sure you'll get your wish
that would be the worst thing the Remake could do
just be happy you care enough about her to be sad that she died
no he loved Elena
here we go again
Why was the game axed after a year? It looked kind of cool.
it's better when despite being so stacked tifa's demure personality takes over and she's submissive to yuffie
You don't have any fanfiction to back this point up; argument invalid
C?
>that voice acting
thank god we got new ones
>early 00s video game voice acting
It's not the same but I'll take it
They do, you just have shit like advent children making it as unsatisfying as possible (another piece of media tifafags conveniently declare canon and non-canon I find)
based and hivemindpilled
It's just hinting at his past with Tifa. It's like you guys didn't play the game.
nomura's co-director is an aerisfag so tifa will get cucked in the remake. screencap this
Well the ratio is probably 80% zoomers aruing with 20% originalfags so what do you expect
Literally a girl I dated in high school after moving towns my senior year and dealing with severe depression from abuse.
She was 14 and I took her virginity, fucked her in the butt a bunch, and got to pretend rape her and pretty much abuse her during sex.
The sounds that girl made. Low growls. Those were the days...
Then I met her friend, the Tifa, and married her and had a kid with her.
Now I’m old as fuck waiting for this game to come out.
He doesn't end up with anyone.
why shouldn't it be canon? he gets his shit together and goes back home, it's a nice ending
Jessie will be the Aerith replacement
then it is time to unveil my 15 part series consisting of over 10,000 pages cloudxelena story
If they are faithful to the main game the Cloud Tifa stuff will be mostly set up for the events of what we now call disc 2. But will likely be disc 3 in the remake.
>10,000 pages
You say that like it's a mega autist achievement in the age of MLP fanfiction. Small time now.
I really want an AC chapter just for fusion sword fuckery.
>I really want an AC chapter
I was worried Aeris would get cucked. Not that it’s good Tifa would get cucked but we’d have to wait a long time for that to bear fruit anyway.
Talking about other people not making up their monds
Aerith does not love Zack.
>hinting at his past with Tifa
he had feelings for Tifa when he was a kid/teenager and the white noise stuff happens explicitly after Jessie wants to know about his relationship with Tifa
So they are going for extremely hot approach to the remake? Sympathy sex from Jessie AKA Terrorist-chan!
It'll be on a global timer like XIIILR becaues of Cloud's Sephiroth AIDS.
It’s his past being garbled then. To show how they will be doing that.
Why is he fighting a Bionicle?
RELEASE THE FOOTAGE NOMURA YOU NIGGER I WANT TO SEE THE 20 MIN GAMEPLAY DEMO
In their defense, the Cloud voice and the Sephiroth voice both improved over their run. I think the KH dub had pretty bad direction in general considering even the actual fucking actors sound worse than their performances in the movies they're originally in.
it's either a redesigned Mithril Rod or a new weapon for her
Nomura is one 100% a Tifafag. Just look at her E3 presentation. Aeris first appearance trailer was just randomly drooped while Tifa got hers on fucking E3 while being on Sonys spot. Even the way how they teased her through out the show shows that Tifa got a pretty special treatment
It’s a collapsable parasol she twirls around when nor fighting!!!!
why the fuck are they making it so heavy-handed? It's going to be blatantly obvious to literally anyone what the twist is even if they don't know anything about FFVII.
Because Nomura and subtlety are antonyms in the dictionary
Delusional.
Assmad Tifafag.
But we know that he still has these feelings when the lifestream sequence happens. That's literally a wink at Clouds feelings for Titsa
getting stabbed by sephy made him gay
Advent Children is irrelevant and even there they don't end up together. Sorry Tifafag.
This remake is being made specifically for the Naughty Dog and Rockstar cinematic experience crowd so it has to be dumbed down as much as possible
must be next to my scarlet/tifa fanfic
Good. If it means Tifafags kill themselves so be it.
She is more popular too though. That’s a reason. I just hope they don’t fuck up the love triangle pandering to anyone.
Right now it works out pretty cleanly: Disc 1 has Aeris more prominently to set up her death as appropriately sad and impactful.
It also sets up Tifa and Cloud’s past for the events of Disc 2 where Tifa takes priority. Aeris mostly being a regretful memory and her window of opportunity being the thing that unites them to take on Sephiroth.
Neither character is particularly shortchanged (except Aeris by dint of dying I guess but that’s obligatory) and their personalities help typify this set up
my biggest hope for this entire saga is that it comes out on PC and people figure out how to mod it, and then another 5 years later get an unfucked version from modders
How is that possible? isn't disney in charge for voice acting if its disney related?
Why the fuck didn't anyone tell him to stop?
Has Nomura ever actually played Final Fantasy VII?
You don't get the parasol until Costa del Sol I think
>She is more popular too though
No she's not. Aerith is more popular than her in Japan.
nomura said he doesn't know if tifa and cloud get together even after ac. cope
I’m a massive aerisfag actually.
I didnt say he didnt, just that’s why I think they showed it
>i am literally calling Tifafags poor sports
Why are corpsefags always so miserable?
Really? That’s awesome if true. Was not aware. Source?
Even after AC? Wow that’s harsh. Can I get a source though?
Why are slutfags always so mad that their big boobed brainlet got cucked by best flower girl?
Maybe they supervise it, but the voice direction itself doesn't necessarily have to be Disney, and they'll obviously put in less work than in an actual movie.
Compare Hades in those clips to Hades in the actual Hercules. James Woods does both.
Aeris is dethroned a long time ago desu
Earlier we had tifafags typing in all caps so balance was needed
Literally means nothing when Nomura himself is a huge Tifafag. They're already giving her more importance to the story and expanding her relationship with Cloud with the new Jessie scene asking how close Tifa is to him.
It's just a shitposter. Ignore them.
Cant read this
>So much SEETHING
Nice!
>samefagging
No she wasn't
That pic is kind of a self-own desu. Nomura making a rule 63 version of himself and comparing her to Rinoa and Squall.
I feel like this remaster will piss off both sides now
Tifa is no. 7 while Aeris isn't on the list. Even Zack got in.
>nico polls
Literally equivalent to reddit polls
>2013
oof
here have something recent
>hurr samefag
Fucking pathetic.
>literal whore can't even win the guy despite being alive because he keeps jerking off to his dead waifu
Based.
I didn't think you'd be desperate enough that poll but of course Tifafags want to show how desperate they are to have their waifu be more popular than Aerith.
poll is asking "who is your favorite ff character" Aeris didn't even make it into the top 15 while Tifa got 7th place no pun intended
that pic is fanfiction, thanks for confirming tifafags are delusional
Anything more recent?
Did you really need anything else to confirm they're delusional
Nah she was a real character there is absolutely no indication or even a small clue to suggest what you're saying. She was a physical person who interacts with numerous characters and even fights in the hades paradox cup.
Where is this poll from? And when?