Vampire masquerades : bloodlines 2 looks good

even if its being developed by leftists and they are constantly shilling trannies and fags i am legitematly looking forward to it.

setting looks interesting and graphics are good, soundtrack was nice as well. if they fix the combat it has potential to be very great rpg.

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VTMB2 will trash, the devs are incompetent and Paradox is publishing it.

yeah no. all the astroturfing with that character along with the leftist garbage guarantees she'll cuck you in whatever paths involving her. this entire game is leftist propaganda and i'm not falling for the viral marketing. i know once it comes out, i'll be proven right

exactly. if you want to fool people into falling for this garbage, you're in the wrong place

I'll start getting worried if there is no improvement at the end of the year

Till then i'll remain optimistic

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They have a million years before it's released, so i can't imagine they won't be adding more to the combat.
I'm looking forward to it. the hub area felt extremely like the first game

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Deus Ex was developed by a bunch of faggot "leftists" too, just sayin.

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Times of OG VM games is long gone, as are the people that made those games are now replaced by diversity hires activists and perhaps most importantly, w*men.

Sooner you leave vidya behind the better.

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Hopefully it’s fun at least. Haven’t gotten very far in the first game but I think vampires are really cool and wish more games let you play as them and made around their themes.

dilate

first day pirate then it is mate. no money to leftists, but we get to see if the game is for shit or if its any good

I'll wait for the opinions, but sure.

>466286975
>i am legitematly looking forward to it.

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It's easy to blame diversity but I think a bigger issue is just the stagnation of technology for gaming. The "golden age" for most people was around the time hardware advancements kept making big leaps resulting in much better gameplay, but that doesn't really happen too often anymore, at least with "traditional" hardware.

It's why even long before VtMB2's announcement I had more hopes about playing VtMB in virtual reality at some point compared to any potential sequel. Constantly making sequels without new hardware letting you do something different is just going to result in trying to recapture the peak which doesn't really work.

what am i left with if i leave vidy then ? vidya is only thing in my life that gives me purpose. im never gona get girlfriend or wife, so what am i left with ? wagecucking and rotting in apartment alone. at least i will rott with games

didnt read first two paragraphs. you are probably same guy who had onions reaction to keanu reeves at e3, right ? muh based cdpr

my boy posted a review just today

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I enjoy the lore and like playing as a neato blood wizard vampire. I will enjoy myself despite the game being objectively mediocre. I can't wait to see how the modding community will fix this mess.

mod support will probably be shit tho. but i always liked playing as vampire in skyrim and wished for more in depth mechanics connected to it. so maybe they will fill that void.

the combat looks like mmorpg combat right now. Wtf literally the most archaic fps game has better combat. Dead on arrival. Can't believe they got a bunch of retards to preorder this. They smart making that cgi trailer first.

i wished the color palet was even half as bright in game as it is in that picture

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Yeah I'm not sure why people are trying to defend it by saying the first game had bad combat too. The first had a decent amount of depth and things to do with melee combat if you bothered to pay attention during the tutorial. And a sequel 15 years later shouldn't be worse, and the melee does look worse.

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Those are the best tits a realistic looking game has had this entire generation

post yfw this game ends up being fun

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WoD was always leftist

Stop getting triggered about something existing that doesn't match your political views

yeah, to me it seems like they were trying to go in kinda dishonored-esque combat, but fucked up really bad somewhere on the way. if they fix comnat it would be pretty good tho. at least it seems so

"I am not a fan of current government" =/= "lefitst".
You do know how cyberpunk and anti-establishment therein works, right?

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guys don't make this about politics. you can just play the game and have fun without making this about how you lack any personality outside your political identity. it's ok to simply have a good time pretending to be a vampire in a video game

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>leftist propaganda
Imagine being as paranoid and irrational as a trump-tourist

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You Americans are so retarded with your tribal bullshit

You don't even have a centre left electable party in your entire country or even fucking three electable parties at all in your entire country calm the fuck down

Why even use these terms if you have absolutely no context in which to understand them?

youtube.com/watch?v=ybopB0_4Abk
Gamespot's video has someone who's more competent in the game, also acts friendly towards Slugg but still the combat looks super bad. I really hope this is truly an early pre-alpha version and the actual development is in a better stage since I don't see them completing the game in 9 months. I think a delay is imminent.

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You're focusing on gimmicks. Who gives a shit about VR when things like level design have gone down the toilet?

Yeah I love this, Yea Forums discovers WoD lmao. They literally have a section in their 5th edition book that says fascists aren’t allowed to play this game. This is just what this franchise is. I just kind of shrug it off.

>have a good time pretending to be a vampire in a video game
Trust me, I would like nothing more. But the minute you make this argument, some dangerhair faggot jumps in screeching that "everything is political, sweetie" and "WoD was always leftist, so it's fine to beat you over the head with agendas" and we're back to square one.

The gameplay videos were a bit worrisome, but we'll see where it standing by the end of the year.

To fix the combat they are going to have to change a good portion of the game, from level design, how weapons work, how disciplines work, how damage is inflicted, how the AI reacts to damage, how AI will position itself, and 9 months is not enough time to basically, rebuild the combat system.

Guys...

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i actually hope they delay game. if they release in same time as cyberpunk 2077 they are gonna sink themselves. because normies will just eat that cyberpunk up like mindless bots

Was that the reason they've eliminated Sabbat from the game and doubled down on Anarchs vs Camarilla? Seem awfully convienient.

>muh leftists
the original VtMB was also developed by leftists

who gives a shit

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see a therapist. you sound unhealthily paranoid.

jesus christ, they will have a hub like the 1st game, they don't need quest markers since the world won't be huge

fucking rpg's nowadays...

Wait is this real?
I'd think the quest markers would probably be one of the first design decisions you'd make as it would affect things like dialogue and map design. They probably designed the game to be played with markers from the start which is shit.

Also
>game releases in 8 months
>we can't really confirm any features until much later in development

Also because Cyberpunk looks 100% better than VtMB2 at this point.

Considering how jank the general mechanics were in the first game, I'm not judging anything about the sequel until I see more of the story and character interactions.

At the very least I'm happy that they're emphasizing branching dialogue with an unvoiced protagonist. Making the most of the story and setting will be what sets the game apart, not the combat.

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i hate markers, in every single rpg !!! fuck rpgs with markers. i hope they make quests completable without markers.

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Damsel in VtMB was presented as a complete joke of a reactionary teen. I have a suspicion that if she was to appear in this game, she would be presented completely straight as an "inspirational, strong woman".

It looks janky in the Webms I've seen

VTMB2 neither looks nor feels like the original bloodlines, basically a cashgrab with a "nostalgic" pull.

If you go on /tg/ on any thread related to WoD you’ll see that people endlessly bicker about the politics of it and if they aren’t just mention it and you’ll unleash a shitstorm. It is by no means uncontroversial but it’s not like it is breaking news as it seems to be for OP.

Never understood why people liked dishonored. Most of the time spent in that game looking for secrets and trying not to kill people. So much rather play a stealth game like Hitman 1 or thief 2.

When have the devs actually shilled trannies?
I keep reading that here but I haven't seen the devs actually do something like that.

You forgot the most important part: Dale looks and sounds very good!

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That tranny who got triggered over the Cyberpunk box art used to work at White Wolf apparently

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Waypoints aren't a deal-breaker for me if it's just a matter of basic convenience in finding a needle in a haystack at the center of a huge empty map.

But I really did like that the first game didn't need them.

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You now that the whole vampire the masquerade setting is based on goth and punk right?
Punk is more or less anarchism in cultural form.

it completely kills my desire to play the game. Why fuck should I explore this magical world filled with vampires and other mysterious? When the game built in gps app tells me where to go.

Will there be a mod that will remove Dale from the game?

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You can't be serious? The actual gameplay looks so bad it'd get a D grade on a 10th grade computer project

>why yes the game does indeed look like a bowl of stinky diarrhea soup if I dare say so myself. I will still pirate it and mod in some big ol titties though

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That is shitposting, but one the writers hated Hotline Miami 2 rape scene, and was journalist at that time.

>skyrim

Fuck off with your shittaste.

What are you talking about?
The combat in the first game was literally spamming attacks and using a power fro. time to time.

nah but you buy whatever you want brah

Give Dale a break. He's just a thin blood who is forced to retell the same rules to every other thin blood over and over again, only for them to ignore his warnings. Your face would be tired too.

lifless eyes, like a dolls eyes

I've taken the screenshot from one of the gameplay videos on youtube. Someone on an earlier thread today asked for someone to ask that question and I did. It baffles me how's it possible for the game to be in pre-alpha still, it gets released in 9 months. I'm not really feeling too good about this anons.
In case you get the option to turn them off, hope it won't be like in Oblivion where you simply can't do most quests as the game is designed around marker system.

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this

the guy is delusional if he thinks CP will sell more because of ''normies''

Which is ironically apolitical in "all sides of the debate suck" way. Punks are anti-mainsteam, they don't go left or right. The minute left-wing becomes mainstream they turn against it - case in point "Demolition Man".

God I hate watching people play first person games with controller.

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proof?

>suspicion

Wow its totally nothing

Didn't Mitsoda say that he doesn't give a fuck about V5 and current Vampire lore and VtMB 2 is it's own thing anyway? I could've sworn.

Reminder that the latest Assassins Creed had an option to be played without a minimap full of markers and lines for you to follow. If they can't do the same, its hopeless.

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punk was reactionary but like anything that gets an audience leftoids invaded it and they scrapped with each other because they are are all losers
arguing over its identity is pointless

>first game is lauded as innovative because muh facial animations and expressions
>second game drops the ball
I just don't understand

Because you can choose pronouns for your character? That is more important.

What your describing is contrarianism and that's what this place stands for but punk is basically anarchism and anti-statism. It doesn't have much to with the mainstream and all that.

actually the gameplay from the trailer looks trash

They're not following V5 strictly, but they borrow certain metaplot elements such as Vienna chantry getting destroyed.

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Is Dale Rudi replacement on these threads at this point?

Because the setting is the real star. The tech is cool and everything but in the end nobody cares about it.

I prefer my vampires both dead inside and outside.

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Yeah but there is still shit like the attack on the Tremere HQ in the game which happened

You must be new here.
You have to complain about anything and everything if you want to fit in.

Is Dale a black homosexual muslim feminist socialist vampire? If not, no. Rudi remains uncontested.

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Did you even play them? Those options were fucking shit and you still had markers galore and had to use that fucking bird to instantly pinpoint everything

They probably will follow parts of the metaplot. So expect a lot of the church and the hunters.

You know that something is bad news when one second clip is the only thing that has semi-decent facial animation in the entire trailer.

And all the threads must have some bootlicking trannies with no standards whatsoever.

>5th edition
wow dude that's pretty old school
what if i told you that vampire is about deeply hierarchical organizations in which power is a function of seniority and stems from a biblical curse

They took the only guy that somewhat knew what he was doing and how faces were working and they made him make 1 sec animation for this guy alone, didn't they?

>that pic
lmao is that the singer of Disturbed?

Yes.

How can anyone (right in the head) when they showed literally seconds of gameplay and it was even worse than Anthem, a game that managed to make a good fake trailer despite its state.

>see gameplay video
>ah well it looks like shit good thing it will have a couple of years in development
>8 months until release
Yeah dead on arrival.

I forgot to add "expect the game to be good"

so the only reason this game exists is that there's been a dedicated cult following of the troika game and some of these people obviously have the dementia

Shut up. WoD was always leftist and about politics. My friend told me. He read V5.

Let me guess...
They fired the guy who animated his face because he was somewhat competent?

what the hell these bitches are stealing my moves

Exploration mode is still marker city and only diference is you have to use your bird with built in radar to locate the objective.

Only trannies think it’s good and they are by fact not right in the head

The real issue is that they thought it was a good idea to show this. They seriously though it looked good. The devs are completely delusional and they better say something before the damage is permanent.

Why is nobody mentioning the fact that literally the only thing that differentiates the animation quality from Mass Effect Andromeda is the proper lip-syncing?

same, a lot of the early shit i read about the game made me really wary, and it's a shame it's lost a lot of the sex & sleaze of the first (as i expected seeing as it's 2019) but it still looks a lot better than 90% of the other shit coming out in the next few years.

not sure what you are smoking, the game looks and sounds like complete shit

it's very obvious that it's just a fucking cash grab

imagine paying paradox to shit on one of your favorite things

jesus... fucking... christ...

that whole thread is a fucking goldmine

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Because all these threads are made by leftist faggots. Propoganda is more important than every other aspect of a video game to them.

They're going to "run into difficulties" and push the release date back at least twice
Mark my words
There is no fucking way this is remotely ready they just wanted to show something off for E3

or they're just like a majority of people with favorite games and will ignore flaws in the upcoming sequel until the hype dies down

It’s even one of their own employees playing in the demo. What the fuck is wrong with them

Or they’re all leftist faggots.

>implying paradox cares

nah, the game looks janky as fuck but still good, and i hate lefties, the modern left anyway.

>leftist faggots
Not surprising since I've witnessed reddit and twitter speech in threads, the likes that would make bioware-game threads blush.
And all the tumblr fanart, fucking hell the tumblr spam is unreal.

I've been saying it for months: VTMB2 retards as just as bad as Nintendies.

the exact same thing happens with games that don't have a shred of politics in them too retard

>these are the things that inhabit White Wolf
Gee, who could have possibly come up with Based Rudi

>Not liking Nintendo

I will now disregard any opinion you have.

Yikes

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VTMB is my favorite game, and this sequel is a shit cashgrab made by Paradox, it does not have a single thing that connects to the original outside of the title.

What's this from

I can't wait to play as the cutest clan!

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Being an elitist gamer is like trying to be the winner of the special Olympics

at least they didnt make voiced protagonist like retards at cyberpunk did. voiced protagonist just kills rpg

Nintendo is a shit company, controlled by literal boomers who don't understand technology, that is enough reason to hate them.

The shitty visual novel We Eat Blood And All Our Friends Are Dead from not long ago had some weird shady shit going on too. Something about a stalker and tranny writer working for them

Is it really that much of a cashgrab? Everything every corporation does is for profit but surely they could invest money into something more popular then a sequel to a cult classic that altho loved around here, is pretty unknown to the average consumer.

Sorry my disdain towards consuming the same rehashed pieces of shit lowest common denominator appealing gimmicks catered to kids for 40+ years, invalidates my opinions. When people say "there's always worse out there" they point at you.

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he was shitcanned years ago which is probably why he trooned out

Incompetence, greed, laziness and politics is what kills RPGs. If you self-insert and you're over 15 you have mental illness and should not be taken seriously.

>it does not have a single thing that connects to the original outside of the title.
Yes it does? Have you not seen the pre-order and special edition outfits from the first game?

Pre-order the digital deluxe edition + season pass now, we might add one of the clans we removed from the first game!

I'm going to remain optimistic, but it doesn't look great. But who gives a fuck about graphics desu.

I just hope the open world feels good, and that they eventually add Nosferatu as playable.

I can't wait to plays as a trans Nosferatu hacker/assassin :^)

Dale did nothing wrong

>you are an elitist if you don’t play games literally made for toddlers

Instagram, from E3 demo.

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*rubs hands*

Best thing that can happen is they have modding support in the game and let the fans fix it for them.

>voiced protagonist just kills rpg
No it doesn’t if the devs are competent. Luckily CDPR are some of the best, if not the best, in the world.

If the game isn't good then I don't think any modding will save it. The only good VtMB mods leave the base game alone while adding new content, any mod that has tried to alter/"improve" the vanilla game makes it worse.

Idk, im worried. Nothing they’ve shown looks particularly promising besides some decent atmosphere.
But everything they’ve shown looks pretty bad

Like some other user said I think its lightning in a bottle and this one is gonna crash and burn

Have you seen the pre order bonuses ?
>REMEMBER JAENETTE ?
>REMEMBER THE ARM ?
>REMEMBER THE STOP SIGN ?
>REMEMBER JACK ?
>Oh, we are not going to use the facial animations, neither the quality voice actor, nor improve on the combat from the first, we are making an entire different game with an entire different feel that have nothing to do with the one you enjoyed, thanks for the support you pathetic faggot
>Also, remember to purchase the $90 dollars edition with the missing clan

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Why can't you just say it looks good and leave out the tranny leftist part like a normal person

>Dale appears in CGI trailer
>gets shit on due to his giga nose
>Dale appears in the new trailer
>gets shit on due to having bitch voice and due to suffering from Andromeda syndrome
Poor Dale. Will his suffering ever end?

>Bitching about something that has no effect on you except in passing exposure, then going on the internet to complain about it because you have nothing better to do.

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In canon trannies can only be Nosferatu or Malkavian so it fits

>waaaah u don’t like ninbingbingdo, me not listen to u reeeeee

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Are you ready for this bitch to rend the shithole of your beloved vampire game?

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>THIS time it will be different
>No no no please, THIS time it will be different
When will you zoomers learn. Games are dead, taken over by corporations, females and faggots. Its over, move on.

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I cant wait for the gameplay to be shit and the dialog to be the equivalent of a WOKE twitter post.

some people only start threads to ensure their opinion gets more attention compared to posting in an already existing thread

>I came here to laugh at you

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>implying CDPR RPGs are actually RPGs
I think the only voiced protagonist RPG I've ever played that really felt like an RPG was Alpha Protocol.

Fuck vampires has any one seen the werewolf game yet?

what is that creature?

>>implying CDPR RPGs are actually RPGs
???

was there any vampire stuff at e3?

A few pictures and some info just released, sounds much worse than this.

>>REMEMBER JAENETTE ?
>>REMEMBER THE ARM ?
>>REMEMBER THE STOP SIGN ?
>>REMEMBER JACK ?
I have no idea who the target audience for shit like that are supposed to be. Like, if you've played and liked the original, you probably a fan of traditional CRPGs, right? And if you're a fan, you probably play it seriously, without the ring of +500 ATK or the epic funny gnome hat. Right? And, if you haven't played the original or didn't like it, you have no idea what all that shit is or don't want to encounter it again, right? It just doesn't make any sense, why are they making this game and for whom?

They're like Mass Effect. You can make some different choices in different scenes but you're playing the same character every single time and nothing will meaningfully change. Not even the gameplay really changes based on how you build your character. Compare this to something like old Fallout where depending on your build you could sneak through the final levels and plant bombs to end the threat without ever meeting the antagonist, or go in guns blazing or just talk your way through.

Meet the new face of your hobby

i like that there doesn't seem to be any loading screens in the main hub

Just watched the gameplay demo.

WHY THE FUCK PUT A CROSSHAIR AND A GROUND INDICATOR AT THE SAME TIME?!
Why turn the bloodsucking into a GearsOfWar reload minigame?
What's the point of a skyrim compass when the quest places have huge fucking neon signs with their names on them?
Why are all the NPCs oblivious to someone who walks around with a pipe as a weapon?
Who thought fusing a weapon wheel and loadouts was a good idea?
Why does melee have aim-assist?
Why is the texture resolution from 2010?
Why are there women junkies running around with military weapons in their methlab?
What the fuck is that Mono sound mixing outdoors?
Why can't you holster?

>What's the point of a skyrim compass when the quest places have huge fucking neon signs with their names on them?
Your average gamer has been playing quest marker games for so long that they literally cannot function if not given them. They'll just mentally shutdown and be unable to progress because their brain automatically filters out environmental details after years of following quest markers.

Pre-alpha :^)

but will it have futanari like based cyberpunk?

>why are they making this game and for whom?
You know the answer deep in your heart

Loading screen disguised as walking upstairs
Loading screen disguised as HOLD X TO UNLOCK
Loading screen disguised as long dark corridor with nothing in it
Bar tiny lobby room with 1 decorative NPC disguised as loading screen

They're there, just don't take you out of the experience. Got to wonder however, how many times you're going to walk up the same dark staircase before you get sick and tired of the bullshit.

You hear male voices coming from female npcs in the gameplay so yes

that doesn't make any sense user

It also takes much more effort and good game design to create such a game without markers.

Cute Tremere futa!

fuck my ass I hadn't realized there were questmarkers in the UI

I was trying really hard to stay hyped despite the horrendous combat and first person, but skyrim tier retard proof quests designed around a waypoint in your screen is too much for me

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watched this youtube.com/watch?v=xJh-m1qWcm0
looks cool, hope you don't have to listen to the kid-sounding vampire for long
lips are obviously bad

To an extent, but it's really not that hard. Colours are important and do half the work for you.

Technology has nothing to do with good questline, level, character, combat, etc. design. You can have MHW's combat with old FF7 graphics if you know what you're doing.

>No option to play as Nosferatu
Dropped

oh yeah I completely forgot about all that
well shit man

Yeah and these shitty devs can’t eve be bothered to put all clans in at release and it will only have a pathetic amount pf discipline powers because having more would get “”””””””conplicated””””””” according to their own words

graphics are shit
animations are atrocious
combat seems so shit it makes VtMB look passable
Mitsoda doing half the VA is cute but I suspect those are only placeholders, a shame

I'll be the first to say. It doesn't look as bad as it could be. The animations and combat look janky, but we still have 6-9 months until release. The fact that they're showing gameplay and has running demos says a lot.

back to your ps3, sonynig

>we still have 6-9 months until release
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It was fucking hilarious though. Go watch the gamespot demo. In the methlab, the second or third chick he wacks, grunts and shouts with a man's voice.

whatever made you think i'm a sonyggier
tranny

>feet not touching the ground

>hope you don't have to listen to the kid-sounding vampire for long
Sorry, user, but you'll be stuck with Dale for quite some time.

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Just saw some were earth gamoplay

Fucking hell, what a disaster. You know what pisses me off most though? The fucking 45 degree FoV.
That's gotta be the worst FoV this decade.

Bruh I love you but you're in complete denial

Morrowind with guns?

didn't these guys make Blacklight? You'd think the devs behind a well received shooter would at least get the gunplay down.

Either it was a bug or you’ll fight a lot of trannies

Ugly!
Tomorrow is objectively the best style!

Why don’t they just make a good sequel without all the weird virtue signalling bullshit?

the most prominent one is tzimisce

Imho it looks ok. Doesn't rock my world, doesn't look repulsive either.
Of course it needs to be better than the first one, specially since it's being so long and this time they don't have have the problems they did back then, but i'm also much more worried that it feels immersive and gothic with good writing than that it has amazing battles.
I will not mind if they delay it for as long as possible though, anything that helps.

>Gets the data
>Then says he doesn't have it to the quest lady

for what purpose

Not him
The graphics are solid. The texture quality is extremely subpar, they're trying to hide it with heavy occlusion and washed-out volumetric fog.
Funny thing is volumetric particles are one of the first things that always gets downgraded in a game. Also the lighting is basic, but atmospheric and deliberate enough in their placement that it feels better.

lol, It's Razorfist cosplaying as Lestat.

Pretty sure that's just how Benedict Cumberbatch looks

well they didn't show us all 4 factions that wanted it so maybe he was seeing who would give him the best price first
or maybe he's just retarded

From the fact that you have 2 gender sliders in the game, it's safe to assume there can be at least 1 tranny.

I know. But as an avid tabletop player who wants an good video game RPG , my options are this, CP2077, or Baldur's Gate 3.

Cyberpunk doesn't hold my interest because of the setting and the generic sounding plot.

And MAN am I fucking tired of everything Dungeon and Dragons.

So I'm gonna remain optimistic about Bloodlines 2, because it's all I have for now.

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Remember the days when in video games the enemies used to take cover, run away when shot at and generally acted with some feeling of urgency in combat? What the fuck has happened in the last ten years?
Why do devs think the slow zombie walk in front of or towards an enemy is in any way acceptable?

That kid-sounding vampire will be our information broker since the other one will get his head cut off by this guy .
You're going to listen to that kid-sounding vampire as such. At least until you get the clan.

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>2 gender sliders
what does this even mean

Considering how pissed off he was about the on-rails 3rd person view, I wouldn't put it past him to run around with a machete killing fag devs.

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Probably just doesn't provide as big of a return on profits compared to other things they can do.

I mean, if that's a vampire enemy, bullets do jack shit to them regardless.

But that's a big IF

AI hard work, we small studio please understand! Thanks

I think he means a sex slider and a gender slider.

You can pick your biological sex, as well as your gender pronouns.

>inb4 REEEEEEEEEEEEE

You can be all binary and non-binary gender/fluid-genders/pan-genders

are you aware of japanese rpgs user

>At least until you get the clan.
Can we kill him after it then?

When you begin the game at the character creator you get to pick your gender, either man or woman as is on almost all games.
But in VTMB2, you'll have a slider from male to female. And when you become a vampire, you'll get a second gender slider. As Ellison put it "you might want to reinvent yourself once you become a vampire and that includes your gender"

I played Half Life like a year ago and the thing that blew me away was how fucking smart the enemy AI was.
I don't understand how a game from 97 as much better AI than most games today.

Have you played the Spiderweb Games ?

Looks worse than the first one, and that's quite the feat.

We're gonna make it man
I'm selling my soul right now to make it happen wish me luck

Dilate

Because they actually wanted to makes games.

Moment of silence and let us ask the important question here: Why is he running around with a machete instead of cleaver? Wasn't he shown with cleaver as his weapon choice on the pier and not a machete? Where is the cleaver?

Shes working on nubattletoads, how is this related to vtmb?

ign.com/videos/2019/06/12/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-full-gameplay-demo-e3-2019

It is not looking good

I've heard of them, but I'm not big into Isometric. I never feel immersed when playing. Divinity has been the old one to hold my interest, and Baldur's Gate 3 is made by the same team, so I have hope that it'll hold up.

hold up so is it just a pronoun thing or does getting embraced give you a free supernatural sex change

I'm aware of their existence!

???? no comprende

More and more gender (should be sex but whatever) has been accepted has being in a spectrum instead of binary. An example of this would be women, people in the streets that you'd identify as women but somehow have XY chromosomes. They still have vaginas and again look like women altho they are sterile. This is just an example but you can see how it throws the theory that sex is binary into the trash can.

Because he needed something that is good for hacking someone's (Dominic's) head off fast. Butcher knife isn't exactly ideal weapon for that kind of feat. Machete is.

>either man or woman
Doubt that, they will call it masculine and feminine. A recent game I can’t remember the name of did the same, the shitty F2P Monster Hunter clone

pretty sure those are unironically mutants

They were just fucking idiots in revealing gameplay footage at such an early time. Why? Because you have to show something for E3?
That's bullshit because your game is 9 months too early and it's clear that it's far from done, let alone polished. What the fuck are you doing?

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Now I'm not a vampire, but if I ever somehow became one I doubt that one of my first thoughts after my transformation would be "I want to be a woman now".

Like why the fuck is that even in a game about Vampires and their power struggles.

>even if its being developed by leftists and they are constantly shilling trannies
not sure about the dev team but it is being published by paradox, which has iron grip at the settings. And they are colossal faggots.

I don't think getting embraces give you any physical changes, but IDK. From what I've heard is that you start as a human, and get turned a bit later into the game. So maybe they're have something.

Who knows. There'll probably be an NPC or something that you can get magical surgery done on you, like in Skyrim.

He supposedly just cut off head of your fellow thin blood before he could even react, user.
Using machete makes more sense than a cleaver for this scenario.

so here's the thing, gender is fluid and nonbinary
western men like being buff
jap men like being stylish and seemingly womanly
jap media is also dominated by non-western male appearances, where they not only not buff but also androgynous en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishōnen

hope this helps your understanding of sjws spouting about gender faggotry on tumblr

>she

Unironically looked awful

It just looked completely soulless and the small bits of writing we got was bland and boring. Before people say "b-b-but it was a small demo!", literally the first character you meet in VtMB1 instantly set the quality of the writing to a high bar.

Not to mention the janky as fuck animations and typically how low budget it looks (expected this but would have been willing to overlook it had the writing been good). Yea, no thanks.

Also, what the fuck is that art style? And by that I mean, where the fuck is the art style? Everything looks like it's ripped out of a "stock city assets" folder

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Well, then the feature isn't targeted at you?

how can it be fluid when you can either have Y chromosome or not.

You should play them, basically games made by a p&p aficionado.

feminine men are still men I don't follow

Why are these heavily armed murderous drug dealing thugs mostly skinny white college girls in nice sweaters?

It makes sense if you turn into a Malkavian considering they are mentally ill

>far from done
>8 months from release
YIKES!

I'm pretty sure that's the best it's going to be. They'll probably finish whatever areas they have left to do and try to iron out some bugs but the majority of it will be left as it is.

>frog poster
Opinion discarded.

>how low budget it looks
oh, it is high budget indeed. High marketing budget. The companies nowadays polish shit and sell it. Much more consistent and profitable than trying to make an actual good game and succeeding.

Imagine being an immortal forever frozen in the awkward puberty phase

>T-the ff-f-f-franchise w-was always l-like this I s-swear!

Silence, leftist. Fifth edition came out in 2018 and is a corruption of the original lore.

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its like you've never even met a skinny white college girl in a nice sweater
hoes be crazy

If your objective was to cut someone's head off clean and fast, then what weapon would you choose?

>all these tranny games coming out
>they're all unanimously dogshit
Get woke go broke

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rly comfy, enviros looking great so far

when women took over
women have a built in entitlement syndrome these days and expect to get praised for every mediocre thing they create.

japanese men don't desire to be womanly, you simply misunderstand the nature of selection for neoteny on east asian masculinity

Self aggrandizing pronoun bullshit most likely. Coupled with the fact that you could make a character that looks like a dyke, a nigger or a fag, you have the perfect pandering formula.
Oh you're talking about Dawntless, the bootleg Fortnite Monster Hunter, where they've put women faces on male models and biracial butch dykes. No surprise here.
It's either what you're pointing out or what Battletech did. Cancer nonetheless.

Allow me to educate you

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Is there a onions blood? Will it be future of the setting? "Blood" made by plant products?

there you go
feminine men are on a different part of the gender slider

Thin-Bloods

What most of Yea Forums would be

its the exact same thing you dip stop being difficult

The clan trailers were well written especially the malkavian one so I dont know how its worse

that's why i said seemingly, to point out the western perspective

no u

This guy should write a vtm game.

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based and vogelpilled tbqh

Yeah it is Dauntless, what a shitty game.
Under gameplay options you can chose what pronouns to go by too. Also this tranny who worked on Anthem is working on that game now.

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Gender has nothing to do with chromosomes. You're thinking of sex.
Gender is pretty well accepted as being a very flawed way of categorizing people based on preferences.
Sex being on a spectrum is still something that's debated. There seems to be a leaning towards sex being on a spectrum but there is no consensus on the subject so far.

> I don't see them completing the game in 9 months. I think a delay is imminent.
The demo build is probably older that the actual state of the game itself. They have to manage marketing, production while still being at E3 and with a relatively small team.

Actually, I feel as though a cleaver would be better considering it's built to chop through bone.

Holy shit its a giant toe.

>source: my ass

how do you just call that a "girl".

>I want to be the opposite gender because dysphoria or whatever
>become vampire
>suddenly blood healing or the fact that your body is literally dead renders your dysphoria non-existant
>transgenderism is still something that needs to be part of the game
if you're malkavian I guess

Cope and dilate

Jesus fucking Christ

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>tfw even the madness network tells you maybe you should stop being so crazy

>There seems to be a leaning towards sex being on a spectrum.

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>hormone treatment
>only effect is a huge chin

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Tell that to Tzimisce.

>renders your dysphoria non-existant
Considering transgenderism is literally psychosis, the only way for a tranny vampire to be cured is if catastrophic damage to the brain is healed, which will take the psychosis away with it.

>go e3
>decide to show a gameplay trailer
>the game obviously not ready
>do you best to hide glitches and bugs in your "gameplay" trailer
>then release this
youtube.com/watch?v=_oYJAnhvgNk

Why they are shooting themselves in the head? If the game is not ready, then don't try to act like it is. The marketing team of this game should be fired.

>punks don't go left or right
Punks mostly adhere to left wing anarchism, bruh

who me?

>using the "it's an old build they will fix it excuse"
Yes (You)

Why is there this pseudo lock on combat that just makes the action feel like a stiff turd?

According to resetera they already got a lot of pre-orders because of their brave and woke progressiveness

We will see if it is going to be enough. Sadly today's market is mostly about preorders and first few days of sales. Which is usually decided by the marketing more than actual quality of the game.

:^)
Jokes aside I'm most likely going to cancel it, the gameplay vids killed any hype I had.

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>VtmB 2 looks like shit
>FF 7 Remake looks like shit

I hope this teaches all of you to let go of things. Stop asking for remakes and sequels.

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even the cockroaches in half-life have better AI than that

Paradox alone should've killed any hype.

Thanks for being part of the people that is reason why most games suck now.

who asks for remakes

>pre-ordering digital games
I will never understand this, why not just wait until closer to launch?

This is the first time I'm actually interested in a game that they publish. What makes them so bad?

I fail to see your point. When drones like you do shit like this, you don't spite or stick it up to anybody.
At best, we're going to look at you and point in contempt and disappointment. At worst, nobody will give a fuck about you.

You're yet another brainless fool who made yet another shitty life choice. Oh the humanity!

i just said that it can be an older build, not necesarely their actual current state.
even as is, 9 months is more than enough to signifficantly improve things beyond that.

>i just said that it can be an older build, not necesarely their actual current state.

Why wouldn't you bring your best at the biggest gaming convention of the year?

Most paradox games very low quality. The games they produce are only playable after several patches, and that is only if you love the genre.

The game they publish are usually hit and miss. But generally, if feels like their approach is "put good enough effort to make a passable game and put a lot of effort marketing it to optimize your profits" strategy extends to their published games as well

>9 months is more than enough to signifficantly improve things
So are beta tests a month or 2 before release.

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because you want a tested and fairly stable build. it's probably even worse than this, who knows, but they had to make something work for the demo.

>guy playing kept running up buildings without even checking if civilians were around to see it

does it not break the masquerade?

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You might be making a funny, but you are actually correct: youtube.com/watch?v=Elwb2lV88hM

What a goddamn disgrace

Super precise hotboxes with no auto aim. Doesn't seem like a problem to me. It may even be a necessity so guns don't dominate the whole game.

She looks Janeway.

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>females npcs has male voices
Come on. Are the devs seriously incompetent? How can a bug like this can make it past the programmer that the wrote it, the tester that regularly tests the game, the video producer that creates the trailer and the marketing team that puts that video online.

Do they seriously not care? Or believe this won't have an effect on the sales? Will it?

it's just night-time parkour bro

You should honestly never pre order anything. Just put the money aside and wait. You are just opening yourself up to getting scammed. If no one ever pre ordered the whole gaming world would be better for it.

>only 2 disciplines per clan
>only 2 powers per discipline
Oh dear god

claws in concrete don't worry dude

>SJW DEVS
>51 QUID
No thanks I am playing this.

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there are people already attributing that to the "gender" selection thing and not being a bug. it's stupid and at best comical if so.

what gam

One upside of living in a shithole is having access to regional pricing policies of publishers, I paid a little over $20 for the Blood Moon edition. Some publishers however, increase their prices massively in countries with fragile economies, such as Capcom increasing the prices of RE2 & DMC5 by 90% overnight. Afraid of a similar experience, I've decided to get it for $20 while I still can.

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What's the matter?
If I barely put in any work and pump it full of my pet politics you should be grateful!

The fans believe what they want to believe.

The devs are active on ResetEra and listening to the community.
They don’t visit and listen to this shihole where ya’ll seething incels. :)

Dilate

they should just stay off the internet desu

Two less clans than the first game also.

GET ON PC YOU DUMB NIGGERS, EVERY RPG WITH MARKERS YOU CAN JUST MOD THEM THE FUCK OUT. IF YOU'RE ALREADY ON PC STOP BEING TECH ILLITERATE

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God damnit I just want a vampire gf

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What is the point if the game isn’t designed to be played without markers?

How exactly can anarchism be left-wing?

They will also do stuff like put a game on sale and kill servers afterwards just to make one last buck. Every single penny they can make > customer satisfaction. They are evil and might just be the biggest jews in the industry which is quite the feat. Their games are fucking riddled with DLC.

Just look at how the Bloodlines reveal went over.

>quality CGI trailer, no gameplay but pre-orders up with three different editions, early access, dlc, season pass and so on

that alpha was passable, but the face animations just don't compare to Bloodlines 1

its like nu-devs are cutting corners in that department, first Mass Effect Andromeda and now this

Wait, how the fuck will different pronouns work with the NPCs. Will they automatically know you xhir gender? Or will they misgender you and be very problematic?

>first Mass Effect Andromeda and now this
Bioware had no excuses. they don't even compare budget wise.

Probably the latter, so you can add in more dialogue options.

They will just avoid referring you using gendered pronouns.

If your 2 sliders don't match your character begins every conversation by declaring that they're trans and need to be respected

Their excuse was that the game was made by a shitty smaller studio with practically 0 experience.
This excuse was ruined however when the main studio made Anthem.

IT’S MA’AM!
youtu.be/Lb6OpRfyLFo

The game will also go into easy mode so trans people feelings are not hurt when they die

quest markers are for men with a life, a wife and kids

only neets can take 2 hours figuring out what to do next and reading all notes/easter eggs

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Bioware didn’t have enough allies on the team

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>"is the game designed in a through way that can work without artificial arrows to point you next place of interest"
How about no. We are not doing that anymore

E X P L O R A T I O N

Most of the times journals/quest descriptions are pretty useful. But even if they aren't designed around it I still play that way, the only time it can be annoying is if it's a bigshit open world game. But even then most objectives are near big landmarks and you just need to open your eyes a bit.

Vampires are gay, she's a mudshark and she got fat, there are already clips of game breaking bugs. This is absolute trash, nothing but retards and paid guerilla marketers are excited.

>2019
>Having expectations

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They’ll remove any dialogue differences between genders, another aspect downgraded from the first game.

am i the only one that is really sexually attracted to the thought of vampire gf.

like i'd give anything for her to sire me

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>"I can't believe the sequel to a rushed, unpolished, bug ridden game looks rushed, unpolished, and bug ridden!"

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>9 month before release
>still pre alpha
Why are they lying? Who is buying this?

not gunna lie Yea Forumsros, gameplay is seeming real lackluster so far..

no

Did you look at the image I posted? It tells you how different combos have different uses and that you can also block. The combat isn't as polished or stylish, but I actually find it reminding me of the first Devil May Cry.

I know for a fact that a lot of people don't even bother to put points into combat stats, so I doubt they actually learned how the melee system works. There are some legitimate criticisms about the later parts of the game getting unbalanced but the melee itself is actually fun and pretty well designed.

>even if its being developed by leftists and they are constantly shilling trannies and fags
rent free

Was this supposed to be Christina Hendricks?

in the quest to find slugg she tells you to speak to the nosferatu, but she doesn't tell you where he is nor can you ask her.
Without markers or quest hints you can't find him without searching blindly

Another reason why Morrowind was as good as ES got. It made you immerse yourself in the world and actually learn city layouts and shit since you couldn't just sprint toward the marker on your compass. Odyssey's exploration mode is a joke. I selected it thinking it would be like old RPGs but it still has markers all over the fucking place and guides you around from mission to mission with little exploration or searching actually required.

>Libertarian
Political spectrum isn't just right and left. It goes up and down.

So you can be an anarcho-capitalist, anarcho-communist etc. Anarchy just being even further down than libertarianism or the peak form of it, not sure how to really quantify that

but anarchists are dumb. Anytime you have "anarchy" the guy who ends up collecting capital ends up ruling the previously anarch state by paying minions to be his private army of "do what I say"

Or that could happen, I guess nothing is guaranteed.

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We live in an age whey I can pull up a city layout on my phone and have a marker tell me when to go.

The future in now, old man

No one played bloodlines when it first came out. No one remembers

>Without markers or quest hints you can't find him without searching blindly
Then they should write the dialogue with that in mind about needing a bit of info on where to start looking. Just using quest markers is a cop out.

>better make the sequel even worse and downgraded but add pronouns and trannies instead!

Everyone knows played it knows because regardless of what fan patches you use it's still a janky mess
That I love

I did!

You could do that in Morrowind too. Most major cities would get listed on your map and you'd have an indicator of where you were. But it sucks when the quest is to search for something and you don't even have to actually search, you're just being lead along like a dog on a leash because of the quest marker.

The feeding animation's arm broke, the vampire is running and jumping off buildings in front of humans without a single masquerade violation, they had to include a compass and waypoint markers because vampires all have magical HUD powers now, the faces are all stiff, and so much more is just wrong.

More than lackluster, this gameplay demo has sent me from pretty hyped, to genuinely concerned.

But most games with markers don't even do that. They usually lead you to the place and say "look around"

Why don't they have it set up as like, a phone screen google map in the corner instead of having giant waypoint markers in your vision?

Vampire society being a leftist mess seems pretty realistic desu. What concerns me is some of the dialogue. Some of it seems like something straight out of a marvel movie and is incredibly out of place in this setting.

>add pronouns and trannies instead!
If this is a main grip, you don't care about the game, you care about politics. go back to /pol/

Because dipshits need everything hand delivered to their brain and get stressed when they have to exert their minds even a little

Then you spot the highlighted object within a few seconds.

Because they're hacks
It's LITERALLY DISHONORED 2

>you are looking for a specific doctor at a hospital, just pull up your phone and track what floor and ward he is currently located at
See good game design here would be you exploring the hospital. Maybe hack a computer and look at work shifts or current operations. Maybe overhear someone talk about the person you are looking for. Dominating/seducing a nurse into telling you. Fake an illness making the doctor come see you.

>how can water be wet

it has spawned children :( hope one of them grows up to be the future Hitler and exterminates all the trannies in the world, and saves his father for last :)

It is a way of selling games, if you game is shit you need to find a way an audience.

Being woke instantly makes your game advertised more and increases your player base even if your game is shit.

you sound angry

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>you don't care about the game, you care about politics
Just like the devs then?

they still have time but man do i hope they fix it

Or, you ask the receptionist, and she directs you to where he is like a normal person. You can't complain about immersion, then pitch an unrealistic situation as an example.

Wow how bad was it

And the place where you have to look around is usually pretty linear and it's like you were taken off the leash only to be put on a treadmill.

Is that fucking christina hendricks?

Well, the devs want to make money. And most people who play games aren't autistic enough to care about pronouns and shit.

Then you're clearly not the audience, so why are you here?

If the writing and atmosphere are there, clunky combat is just a positive, as it will act as a pleb filter just like in the original

>Or, you ask the receptionist
Yeah not when you are Nosferatu.. oh wait

>And most people who play games aren't autistic enough to care about pronouns and shit.
Agreed, so why add that shit?

>>Then you're clearly not the audience, so why are you here?
>only people that are going to buy the game can discuss it
Everyone is free to discuss the games, I enjoyed first game and I want to discuss the second one and tell my opinion of how shitty it looks.

And it looks shitty. It is clearly being developed by devs that are going for bare minimum

Right now the game is in pre-alpha so we can't really confirm any characters.

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t. E

>Reading comprehension

Elaborate.
Why add pronouns to the game?

I remember it fondly because of nostalgia but mostly the same complaints that are still there.
The worst part was mostly that it crashed more than an epileptic in a bumper car

the demo area especially the club were just way to clean
the original had a dirty and sleazy feel
this seems too sanitized

Don't open it.

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Why add anything? It's their creative vision.
People seem to really like when rpg's give the player lots of options to customize their experience.

Because fuck white male gamers

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>clean
they literally went to a homeless dump after

Don't forget, it was Paradox employees playing the game. They always used the same routes to navigate, jumping down from the rooftop of the club for example. At this point we only see what they allow us to see.
I wish someone leaked the demo so we could play it however we like to play.

>It's their creative vision.
Wrong, they’ve stated they want a group of people to feel more included. That is pandering and has nothing to do with creativity.

Clan curse gives physical changes

> I don't think these people should be included in things!

I get your message

>A: there's an optional resource that will not affect your particular gameplay. You don't have to use it but some people might want to.
vs.
>B: there's no optional resource so it won't affect your particular gameplay. You wouldn't use it anyway and people who might want to can go fuck themselves.

Hint: on option makes you an asshole wihtout really making the game better.

My dude every piece of media is pandering.
Hell you could pick up a camera and make the most unpleasant film of all time and it would still be pandering to a certain group of people.

Plus if pandering leads to a game with more ways to customize your experience, whats the issue?

he thinks groups he doesn't like shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the same things he does.

I don’t want medias to encourage mental illness. That makes me a bad person?

I watched like 3 of those gameplay videos...shit needs a LOT of work. they need to delay the release and get to work on this or this going to get shit HARD and tossed aside, it doesn't matter how many genders they put in chargen.

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Him/her/xher is not customization I care for
Job background on the other hand is very much the kind I like especially if it means you get to encounter an old acquaintance later on from said job

he's right though

trannies are mentally ill, they need help and not reinforcement

The way the game makes you open doors looks so jarring and weird.

Buddy, you can't post on Yea Forums and then complain about mental illness.

See here is a problem.
A minority of people don’t enjoy things if they aren’t included.
A majority of people don’t enjoy things if the minority is included.

So why do you pander to the minority?

good thing the World Health Organization no longer considers it mental illness :)
Thats the key. You don't care. But some might and since those options are there, you both will be happy. You can just ignore it and the people that care can play around with it. Literally a win/win for everyone.

The majority don't give a flying fuck either way. Most people are indifferent.

Why should they pander to those who hate something?

LOL what the fuck. How can someone be so full of themselves and their politics
>cater your campaign to fit my politics, goy
Fuck you.

So now you are saying people can’t post here without being mentally ill? You just exposed yourself at being the least decent person in this conversation.

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>good thing the World Health Organization no longer considers it mental illness :)
If it isn’t an illness, why do you need treatment?

It does have an effect on my gameplay, actually. ALL dialogue and character interactions have to be fitted to this new system. It waters down the dialogue because they have to be gender neutral and wastes resources better spent on actually making the game good. Fuck liberals.

>i can't enjoy things if people i don't like do
and YOU are the one talking about mental health? lol, what a loser.

the writing seems wrong, the character seem plastic and written incorrectly and the gameplay seems worse than vtmb1 somehow. why did they give the license to these guys again?

That's exactly what I'm saying, chief. Everywhere you go on this website is people being absolute piles of garbage. I'd much rather deal with the "mentally ill" people who just want to live their lives and have fun than the people who want to take that away from them. I'll be the least decent person in this conversation if it means I'm even a nano meter morally above you deranged lot.

:^)

its pre alpha textures will look unfinished there will plenty of bugs animations will look stiff there will be missing feature etc

Don’t even bother.
The trannies don’t understand that this makes the game have even less choices and options, because gender wont make a difference in gameplay anymore.

But... all RPGs do this?????

Like, do you think when you pick a different gender they call you the same pronouns in Skyrim?

is this how you spot magapedes these days

why should they pander to those insane enough to chop off their dicks?

Except thats wrong you retard. They have to modify many facets of they games story to fit the lunatics and their pronoun shit. For example, if a character would normally have a flirtatious dialogue set with a female character, instead now they have either A: make every character a fucking degenerate, which is unrealistic and retarded or B: remove all possible dialogue like this, effectively reducing story possibilities.
Kill yourself by the way. All trannies should.

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The point is you shouldn't design your game and levels in such a way that this shit is required. The player shouldn't need to find a needle in a haystack, they should be able to find what they're looking for by using their brain and clues in the environment, but shitty game designers just crutch on having big glowing arrows pointing the way. Have you ever tried playing a game designed with waypoints in mind with waypoints turned off? It's usually fucking terrible.

want me to link you pre alpha videos theres plenty around

You faggots care so much about gender that you sound like freaking feminists. Pathetic.

See

The playable demo at PDX this October better be better than this steaming pile of shit. Any anons going to that by the way?

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Well, do you enjoy trannies dying and being erased from the world? I do, it makes me happy. Why deny me happiness?
Considering your suicide rates are like 40% I consider myself a winner.

Because Paradox doesn't give a shit whether the game is good or not.

Yeah, good rpgs tend to have varying dialogue based on gender. Including romance etc. However if you're gonna let people be whatever fucking degenerate amalgamation they want then you can't do this or else you have to waste valuable dev resources creating different dialogue for the mentally ill. Cut the liberal trans shit and improve the combat, for starters

Here's your participation trophy. Put it on the shelf in your dad's basement

man this looks so awful

>people who just want to live their lives and have fun than the people who want to take that away from them.
See

He, She, They.

That took 2 seconds to type...

See
Then see the barrel of a shotgun and pull the trigger. Dumb shit.

lol, your copypasta doesn't even make sense as an answer. You just can't handle it, and that's because you are a weak little girl who can't deal with things.

>show starts
>it's fuckin morning in a show about vtm
>whatever, let's see
>turns out there were kinded fighting in broad daylight on a roof
>another scene, the vampire crime boss have a heartbeat

this is gonna be involuntary comedy gold

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yeah its pre alpha your point

lol, mad AND unnable to cope. what a faggot.

So here's the thing about mental illnesses. What is or isn't a mental illness is an arbitrary decision made by us as a society, If there was a planet where the vast majority of people had what in our planet is Bipolar Disorder, maybe, to them, that'd just be normal behavior. And maybe the "normal" people of our planet would be diagnosed with some mental illness.
In a very crude way, everything that goes against the perceived majority, and therefore our previewed notion of normal, we tend to classify as a mental illness.

The thing with trans people is that while it is a medical condition, the idea that trans people are mentally ill is sadly often used against said people as a way to hurt them. After all we've all heard "mental illness" as an insult.

And since a lot of our science is based on the ethical principal of improving people's live's we've come to the conclusion that putting trans people under another category would contribute to said principal.

>B-BUT ITS BETA
get a grip

>the vampire crime boss have a heartbeat
Mechanically possible, just not a thing by default.

I love her design!

>games are just shit out perfect and cannot be improved upon from alpha to beta to release

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Likewise, except your family disowns you. Put it into your pus filled wound instead.

it looks like a fucking abortion and nothing you shills ever say will change it

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seething you are acting like pre alpha is beta

Nope, mental illness is that which stops people from being functional in society by causing them, or others, some form of suffering.

And how are all the characters in the game supposed to know? Then, furthermore why do they care? 99% of real people think you're a freak and vampires wpuld be no different
That would imply trannies are people when they aren't

You know the dialogue is voice acted right?
And how will all the NPCs react to you being a tranny?

so for you chopping off your dick is perfectly sane?

I know, but it was an emotional thing, not he using blood to artificially simulate it

>Put it into your pus filled wound instead.
Why don't you put it in my pus filled wound.

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Handle what exactly?

/thred.

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>What is or isn't a mental illness is an arbitrary decision made by us as a society

That's bullshit. Trying to imply that medical conditions are 'a choice' is disingenuous at best.

>lowest level
>Rape

....Is Rape a... game...?

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I'm a tranny, I'm mentally ill, don't try to make it an identity you normo.

spbp

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>Vampires has to deal with Nosferatu, Gangrel, Sabbat, and Zombies everyday

This is fine

>One trans boi

EW WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

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Cringe

Your huge level of faggotry. You are like a sensitive feminist who get's offended when gender is mentioned. faggot.

Pre-Alpha is a standard term to denote a number of interim milestones between prototyping and alpha, each of which includes new functionality and/or game content. Pre-alphas often mandate incremented improvements on a number of parallel areas in a project, but rarely expect any one of those areas to be complete. The exact content of each pre-alpha is often an ongoing discussion between producers on the team and those at the publisher.

It’s very simple really.
If you get treatment it’s because you have an illness.
Why would you need hormone treatment if you don’t have an illness?

>even if its being developed by leftists
What the fuck do you think the first one was? The good guys are literally anarchist commies and it's full of degenerate homo goths.

its whatever you make of it!

>this entire fucking thread now thanks to your absolute fagotry
Sage and burn this thread

>the anarchs were the good guys

the fuck

>mental illness is that which stops people from being functional in society by causing them, or others, some form of suffering.
And all that is very dependent on the type of society. Again if the vast majority of people had autism, autism probably wouldn't exist. I'd be considered the normal accepted way to behave. I mean you don't even have to imagine scenarios. In societies where cannibalism is normal, not being a cannibal would be deemed as abnormal behavior. Maybe you could even be shunned for it, which to most of us, because of the way our society has been shaped, is an incredibly alien idea.

>so for you chopping off your dick is perfectly sane?
Having a cosmetic operation is sane? Yes. Tons of people do it.

lol

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why stalker so low though? everyone and their dog played it.

Nah I don’t get offended when you mention the two genders.
I do get offended when you mention fake genders that goes against nature and reality because it’s disgusting.

you do realize they have like a year to fix all this shit right? and that's not even beginning to mention how they're going to have to spend most of their time before release bugfixing. it's never going to happen. and besides, the real issue here is the writing which cannot be fixed by modders. it's the classic beth game parable, everything else can be fixed but the boring dogshit quests, the crappy inane writing, and the hamfisted choices they make you do are quite literally, unmoddable.

tbf they do go to great lengths to make sure they have to see the nosferatu as little as possible

>mentally ill trannies can't justify being mentally ill through moral relativism now so they try to justify it with medical relativism

jesus fucking christ

>The Camarilla were the good guys

the fuck

It's funny how you have trouble separating "it's considered normal" from "it's functional". I wonder what your diagnose actually is, all i know it's neither fuctional or considered normal.

I think it's the people that are REALLY into stalker.

Like they guys who go out and LARP in the woods alone with a gas mask and a AK47 bb gun and pretend they're in the Zone

>one wants to uphold society and keep the sabbat down so they don't fuck up everything for all vampires
>the other is just "lol who cares let them do whatever they want FUCK your rules!"

>I do get offended
because your feelings bruise like a peach.

>keep missing the point
How will the characters in the game react to the different genders? Will they automatically know? If yes, how would that make any sense at all? Would you have to correct every single NPC that when they misgender you?

lol who even says that is there latest build also 9 months is plenty of time

Gender dysphoria is literally a mental illness, my psychiatrist detected it and I take meds for it, is not an identity.

True, but still, my point stands. In a world of actual monsters, I doubt anybody would give a single fuck about if someone was trans.