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Jap or Eng VA?
Brayden Torres
Juan Foster
RUNK-A-CHUNK SMAAASSHHH
Matthew Sullivan
ass
Samuel Long
The Japanese voice acting is just better all around and Ishikawa Yui particularly strikes the character much more successfully.
The inflection and tone of voice in English doesn't do an especially good job at showing the conflict within 2B as a whole. She always sounds upset, blunt and/or crabby. In Japanese, she's resigned to keeping her wants and desires buried within herself because she's not allowed to express them. It creates a striking contrast when she goes from sounding defeated and resigned to her duty to fighting for what she believes in, when she can't hold it in and has to let it out. Like with your spoilered example, it makes sense. How can 2B help with that when internally, she's as fucked up and helpless about that?
Another example would be 9S's playful responses to 21O, which miss the point in English again. "Yeah, yeah" "One affirmation will suffice" "Fine... [sulkingly]" vs "Hai, hai [cheerful]" "Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [just as cheerful]". It shows that he plays around with the rules and even when told off, he's going to still push the rules as far as he can without actually breaking them. There's a big difference between sulky got told off by robot mom and cheeky little shit.
8-4 mis-characterised Zero in Drakengard 3 quite drastically too though so it's nothing new.
>Japanese
>Overseen by Yoko Taro, 2B is as intended
>Amerifats
>Changed personality to appease westerners
I feel sorry for people that played this dubbed :)
Angel Davis
Hardly even matters unless you understand Japanese because you still get dubtitles with the personality changes.
>I feel sorry for people that played this dubbed :)
Do you actually know Japanese? because as the previous part of my post said you still had dubtitles.
Josiah Johnson
for me it's idemi, kallenz and cakeofcakes
Xavier Roberts
This desu.
Ian Rodriguez
Is 9S an edgelord on Jap VO too?
Camden Howard
>dubtitles.
Do you have autism and don't understand inflection, pitch or tone?
GOD DAMN I despise burgerclaps.
Ryan Gomez
English 9S was good, the rest was meh
Jap voices are better overall
Drakengards and first NieR had better English voiceovers I think
Easton Morgan
these days always jap cause it gets old hearing the same 5 eng vas every game
Dylan Butler
>playing Japanese games with English dubs
Blake Brown
I've played every Taro game jap only.
Brandon Nelson
I think 9S was great and got even better as he descended into madness. A2 was good in her non chalant, nihilistic way. 2B was shit.
Charles Campbell
Judging by Drakengard 3 which had an all star japanese VA cast, i'd probably play Nier: A in jp too, while giving dub a chance in subsequent playthroughs
Leo Jones
As opposed to the same 5 japanese VA's?
Aaron Hughes
My Japanese isn't going to improve past matte, yamero, wakatta, hayaku and taberu, mate.
Noah Barnes
Jap VA was literally Mikasa, so I'll go with that.
Ethan Bennett
We know you shitpost here, Kyle
Daniel Morales
Even with dubtitles you the emotion and tone tell a lot that is missing in the dub. I mean when you read subs do you just think a stoic person is speaking with no emotion? Did you even read the post it even gave examples
>"Yeah, yeah" "One affirmation will suffice" "Fine... [sulkingly]" vs "Hai, hai [cheerful]" "Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [just as cheerful]".
if I read yeah yeah and hear hai hai cheerfully it doesn't matter if the dub is sulkingly
Luis Wright
I always use the original voices, but sometimes the dubs are good, like in Xenoblade 1
Nolan Morgan
What did he mean by this?
Dominic Cox
Why play Jap when I can’t understand it?
English with subtitles for me.
Ian Ward
>>Japanese
>>Overseen by Yoko Taro, 2B is as intended
>>Amerifats
>>Changed personality to appease westerners
Thanks user!
Landon Ward
JAP VA is Mikasa so japanese is better
Blake Robinson
>2b
jap
>9s
eng
Angel King
Ishikawa is a pro at stoic and disconnected characters.
In fact that's pretty much all she does in anime VA.
Blake Lewis
>posts Japanese game that's better dubbed
Nicholas Gomez
>literally Mikasa
nobody cares about Mikasa
Alexander Edwards
I always go with original language voices, no exceptions unless it's for a replay and I'm curious enough to hear other voices, or there's no alternative.
Evan Miller
Nathaniel Ortiz
depends
mostly go with original voice
Charles Rogers
and also I have a penis
Daniel Wood
Wish Runka Chunk had leaked nudes
Nolan Murphy
Did she have autism?
Jace Kelly
Too many Vietnam flashbacks will fuck with your brain
Oliver Roberts
Based
Levi Miller
Nobody gives a shit about this seasonal garbage as well.
Ishikawa's only truly good role is 2B.
Lincoln Russell
youtube.com
>dubs
>ever
Henry Richardson
>we live in a timeline where Yuki Kaji didn't voice 9S
thank god
Lucas Baker
>fire emblem
>ever good in English
Larua Bailey is shit
Wyatt Lewis
(Thou)
Xavier Robinson
>that damage control
Ethan Sanders
of course he is
Jack Edwards
>89.8点 on anikore.jp and still generates hype on social media
>seasonal garbage
Nah, autistic PTSD-chan is here to stay. Cope.
Joshua Phillips
Is Kira a trap or just fat and ugly?
Lincoln Cooper
English 9S > Japanese 9S
Joshua Collins
Okay, Historia.
Mason Stewart
Kaji can voice good protagonists without sounding like a total bitch though.
His Meliodas was easygoing and strong.
Brandon Reyes
Fat and ugly like most Americans.
Hunter Cox
imagine actually thinking like this.
Even though I agree that Kyle was the only remotely good voice actor he still sounded like a fucking 30 yo nerd which he actually is
Noah Wood
I played the sub, but this is a rare instance that I do regret it. English 9S stole the show when I reviewed the cutscenes on youtube.
Henry Price
>source material is so shit it was rejected by Kodansha few years before kyoanus found it in a garbage bin
>got eternally BTFO by Sora yori and retarded fans stil can't recover
Cope
Parker Gonzalez
I give you permission to play it again.
Jaxson Carter
>gets proven wrong
>deflects
Clockwork.
Colton Roberts
I want to date and marry Kira!
at the very least be her friend
Luke Allen
>gets a reality check
>shitposts
Clockwork.
Eli Lewis
Go away runka chunk
Ryder Perez
Idk who that is, I just have a crush on 2B's English VA
William Anderson
So much cringe listening to FE 3 house strailer can't believe people think that's a good dub lol. Funny how people get attached to dub voice actors when they always change anyway see FE spinoffs and FEH there's always recasts or same VA just doing a completely different voice
Maybe if the dub fit the theme aka european setting it would be OK but they just use anime dub voice actors so it's shit at least the japan voices have the advantage of being the original and fitting the "anime" theme instead of the european setting
Angel Myers
Okay, runka chunk.
Jackson Perry
disgusting, but she's ez so you have a chance
Dominic Cook
Been watching Kakegurui, is it just me or just Rina chan sound similar to Michelle Ruff?
Eli Hill
This thread was on page 10 before I saved you OP with this copy pasta(which is true) :^) be thankful.
Nolan Perry
people that waifufag anime dub actors are as pathetic as it gets, laura bailey dicksuckers are second in line for the gas chamber after ashly burch
Jonathan Jenkins
dubtards know this happens and don't care.
Caleb Phillips
>2B trolled pic related in a previous life
It's still surreal to me.
Juan Flores
major cringe
Dylan Ortiz
It's weird. Kira Buckland in her more gentle scenes actually was on par with the Japanese dub. I put the blame on the voice director desu.
Anthony Allen
Literally just Monica Rial being a cunt.
Wyatt Lewis
Nathaniel Anderson
You forgot Jennifer Hale.
Connor Diaz
match the media with matching voices always
if you think western voices fit in weebshit i don't know what to tell you, it's like trying to tell a jap to watch hollywood movies in english instead of nip dubs
Dylan Morgan
ayth
Ethan Morales
Guess this is a shitposting thread huh.
Isaiah Perez
People waifu fag a married women? I just find her voice hot.
Aaron Nguyen
All of them
Brayden Young
Why does the english va look like a degenerate tranny?
Levi Parker
Nigga FUCK JENNIFER HALE conceited smug bitch thinks she's the bee's knees. The breathy tryhard delivery made me cringe throughout ME2 and 3
Jonathan Kelly
I unironically prefer shin-chan dub.
You'd enjoy it more if instead of they had anti-SJW jokes.
Henry Russell
wat, the fuck does ghost have to do with 2b, user
Christian Lopez
Adam Brown
t. "I want Aoi Yuuki-chan to watch shota hentai with me!!"
Lincoln Walker
Runka Chunk used to troll Ghost back in the day. The voice actress for 2B. Pay attention, milky licking fruit bowl.
Grayson Adams
>t. "I want Aoi Yuuki-chan to watch shota hentai with me!!"
She has surpassed the realm of 2D shota. She's a menace to young boys everywhere.
John Cook
>reverse name order
try again
Parker Baker
>still deflecting
Why are you so angry?
Thomas Stewart
Ishikawa's main problem is that she is hilariously one-note.
Thankfully she was virtually perfect for 2B.
Adam Brooks
>Monica Rial nowhere to be found in that clip
>didn't even work on the show outside of a bit part as Kobayashi's mother
What's it like having an IQ below room temperature?
Owen Price
>it's okay when seiyuufags do it
Easton White
>still can't accept reality
As expected of kyoanus drone
Easton Williams
Monica Rial's pretty much the one who kicked funimation into sjw high-gear. She's the heart of the issue.
Isaiah Martinez
I think she was decently expressive as that girl from Build Fighters, but she seems to have found her niche and isn't that overused. I liked her as that rookie in Hataraka Saibou last year
William Kelly
Nah, she's type casted, she plays genki to book worms to even rich scum perfectly well but they want her cute autist voice.
Kevin James
you need to watch her anime characters, she's far from being one-note
Ayden Reyes
at least they were picked by people close to the game's development and not picked by a hired american dub studio after a five minute interview, if any. worshiping dub """actors""" is worshiping an off-brand knock-off of something. it's like your favorite game being a unity chink clone of another game.
Tyler Richardson
Elijah Turner
>he's still at it
It's getting sad. Go have some sex.
Carter Baker
Cringe. At least defend yourself instead of "At least I don't like a girl who can speak English!!!"
Brayden Adams
i wish keira didn't have the fat gene
Nathan Williams
well fucking hell, that is weird to think about. i dont pay attention to who the fuck voice actors are 90% of the time
imagine a boss battle against ghost, itd be like the fight against eve, except hes chimping out about weebs and bronies, and instead of random machine debris its beer cans flying and clanking around
Daniel Wood
You clearly have no idea who Monica Rial is or what she does and get all your information from clickbait Youtube outrage farmers. Stop posting before you embarrass yourself further.
Also
>kicked funimation into sjw high-gear
>when people have been citing literally the same two (2) lines for the last four years
Jordan Adams
English
It's not enjoyable for an English speaker to hear "Shinju wa Toyota san konnici wa onee chan kawaii desu" and have to read subtitles to understand what's going on. It is not worth it for maybe 5% better performances, as it tends to be these days. It is no longer the 90s and earlier where the big studios didn't give a shit about the localization, or a fan dub was made by passionate ammeters.
If you actually understand the language, that's another story entirely. If, however, you are a non-Japanese speaker that unironically prefers Japanese dialogue in your Japanese video games and anime, you are the kind of weeaboo that would move to Japan because you are under the impression that life there is like an anime and people still carry around katanas that are folded a thousand times.
Stop lying to yourselves to protect your infatuation with an island of xenophobes.
Cooper Diaz
Cory is the gift that keeps on giving. I'm glad he and Jeff are doing great and aren't has-beens that fell for the California meme.
Jaxon Ross
It literally is
Joseph Reyes
Dub because I speak English not japanese like some kind of jap bugperson
Xavier Bell
Japanese for 2b
English for 9s
Parker Foster
Bend over
Daniel Russell
Christopher Cox
Kneel
Nathan Bell
>playing Japanese games
Xavier Rivera
English 9S makes him sound like a fucking nerd when he's supposed to be white-haired Kaneki.
Levi Gonzalez
I prefer the original voices because they were overseen by the director of the game/media and reflect the direction of production the best. Your assertions are idiotic, I know for a fact that Japanese culture is shit and would never move there, but their media is best viewed using their original voice acting and that's factual unless we go for exceptions like Cowboy Bebop where the creator himself admitted that the dub fits better than the original due to how well the VA's nailed it. Would you watch Seven Samurai dubbed?
Samuel Gonzalez
>5% better performances
lol complete changing characters personality is only 5% worse while some random localization director instead of the actual creators
Even ignoring the fact VA is much more serious work in Japan with better education and the better american VA don't work on these games instead they're in more lucrative work
Blake Reyes
so does this apply to only nier automata or other games like xenoChronicles, persona 5, etc?
John Flores
RUNKA CHUNK SMASH ALL
Ethan Taylor
i knew it, you're all talking about gay sex. HAVE GAY SEX.
GAAAAAAAAYYYYYY
Ryan Rodriguez
Almost always English. Video game VAs are not high enough quality for it to matter really. And the writing isn't good enough for it to matter if they change a bit.
Having said that Legacy of Kain is GOAT as fuck. That's why you hire real actors instead of VAs.
Sebastian Phillips
fucking based. love corey
John Phillips
Xenoblade chronicles 1(only 1) is OK because it's not Americans and the voice actors have better education and experience than the normal "american anime dub" they're british threater actors. X and 2 I don't like Rex is x1000 worse than Shulk VA
Persona 5 obviously not the game is based in Japanese highschool I mean why are you even asking.. you want to hear badly pronounced japanese names that change between scenes randomly in english? Ok...
Jaxon Myers
What? Rial's about on the same level as Sabat. She's directed some shows, so she clearly has some standing at Funi. I don't watch youtube videos on the matter because I don't care nearly as much as you do, but I look at things logically.
I don't know what you're talking about with the whole two lines thing, but she's been at funimation for far more than four years, and it only started getting this bad lately when she became more relevant in the industry.
David Sullivan
i've met kira at a local FGC in Alaska. She's an attention whore. I remember one event I went to and she showed up, didn't even play the games, and wore short flannel skirt.
Don't know how she got so chunky recently. I never knew of her before by the way. I think one time she made a pass at me and she was drunk and doing white girl wasted shit.
pretty sad honestly.
Colton Torres
holy god that pussy was made for BBC
Andrew Peterson
If it was dubbed in America you're guaranteed this or worse. Automata is about the best you could hope for. Europe tries a little harder on average but not that much.
Angel Gray
Damn user, sounds like you're a pretty cool dude.
Lincoln Perez
i am fucking cool which is why i'm flabbergasted that she even attempted to be in my presence.
Nathaniel Morris
True that, homie. If I ever meet her I'll punch her in the face and say "That was for user!"
Christian Thompson
You were flabbergasted and she was just flab
Gabriel Clark
That's just retarded writers fucking with the script and injecting their political nonsense where it doesn't belong. Though I will be fair, the VAs are major pricks anyways.
Brody Cox
she was honestly not that chunky back then. she worked at one of those coffee shop kiosks on the side of the road. not saying she was fit for the job if you catch my drift, but she was bangable but she had intense yellow fever
Landon Roberts
Japanese. 2B's English VA was awful. The English VA's for 9s and A2 were decent.
Justin Lopez
Kira Buckland voices my beloved wife so of course I prefer her.
Jaxon Brooks
Makes me wonder if she VAs in hope of getting some banana dick
Jason Reyes
The english VA for the game is really good. But I know some faggots like this will cherry pick the worst ones and say they're all bad. You niggers need to get the fuck over yourselves.
Lucas Howard
What about OG Nier?
Nathan Davis
Isaiah Butler
no fucking doubt dude. not even like a white girl VA thing. i believe they have some sort of hookup culture within the circle.
i guess for example Kratos VA from stargate. i'm sure there was some fuckin going on because theres just a lot of emotional involvement along with having things in common business wise.
i mean he was known before VA but yeah, a white girl going in for VA is not only talentless, but is also a fucking weeb and idolizes asian "hot" dudes. so its not just a white man with yellow fever thing, there are also chicks who are into that shit too.
Aiden Davis
It used to be the other way around. How did they get voiceactors for Drakengard 1 to be so spot on and so much better than japanese yet fuck up in future games?
Justin Turner
Kek
Angel Clark
Lucas Ramirez
This is a fucking smug 9S.
Ayden Morris
>Rial's about on the same level as Sabat.
Sabat owns a recording studio. Rial is just a VA with a lot of roles.
>She's directed some shows
Like 95% of Funi's directors are also VAs, especially after the advent of simuldubs when they needed to increase production. Some VAs like Caitlin Glass and Clifford Chapin have done way more directing than Rial has.
>it only started getting this bad lately
Like I said, "this bad" equates to one line each in two shows from the past four years.
Jack Gutierrez
I don't even want to know how they managed to get a VA from South Park to voice Angelus.
Easton Sanders
>There's a big difference between sulky got told off by robot mom and cheeky little shit.
I mean, not really. I hope you don't have so little faith in the extent of 9S' characterization that such an unimportant detail ends up being a breaking point. In both cases, he's reacting like an immature kid, so that childishness is meant to be a contrast to his later descent into madness, nothing about that part changes.
If anything, subtle discrepancies in lines delivered by minor characters, such as the pods or operators is more likely to produce a drastically different effect, but sadly no original vs dub ever seems to take the time to talk about these.
Ayden Kelly
the english voices are intended by the creators, it isn't the same thing.
Kayden Hall
Japanese is always better, why do you keep making these threads?
Camden Wright
oh fucking puke, you just made me hate people that play this dubbed even more.
Thomas Collins
>I hate a thing and now hate it more
Why did you come into this thread?
Hunter Cook
>not realizing that japanese is a meme language
Elijah Morgan
>basing your opinion of voice acting on the name attached to it independent of quality
Typical subfag.
William Bennett
That's not true at all, she plays the total opposite in Aikatsu, Gundam Build Fighters, Girlish Number, and Eromanga-sensei.
Luke Baker
She used to be a troll on True Capitalist Radio.
Daniel Gomez
English Voice Actors attempt to censor the Japanese video games they are dubbing.
Fuck them
Ian Gutierrez
but that's what is doing.
Christopher Jackson
But nobody remembers those. Her best characters are stoic.
Dominic Carter
people that play a VN dubbed are absolute scum, ironic weebs to the core. while i always go for the original language, there are some things i understand, like most people wouldn't bother to play sonic or zelda with the original audio, they don't really think of it as foreign art. something like danganronpa, you know what you're getting into, if you play it dubbed you're a total faggot. curse "ace attorney" for normalizing it.
Jack Nguyen
I didn't know it was possible to be this retarded in such a short post.
Cooper Cox
You beat him at it
Jeremiah Cook
I saw a stream of someone play with subs, he was so distracted with fights he didn't read the sub and had no idea what he was supposed to do. Subtitles are annoying as fuck in action games and are only acceptable on perhaps a second playthrough.
The music also changes to japanese and because its never dubbed, a lot of meaning is lost.
And then there is the fact that the subs are just the english voicelines, whats even the point?
Thomas Barnes
I briefly met her irl, she's a nice lady who's really in to her characters.
Jack Clark
Danganronpa is better dubbed
>having an old woman voice a pubescent teenage boy because "muh purity" and "muh innocence"
>they did this for all three fucking games
Hudson King
Voice acting isn't really supported in America. Studios just think, using a celebrity voice is good enough.
Fox is just the only studio stupid enough to have a grandfather contract with Simpsons voice actors that earns them shitloads of money but every other studio learned their lesson from Fox and will never ever give voice actors that much money per episode ever again.
Go look at Disney voice actors who never made it big in Hollywood. They just live middle class lives just like the Winnie the Pooh guy.
I don't count voice actors who quit voice acting to become a full time actor in my post but yeah, voice acting doesn't make much money in America unless Apple decides to make your voice the voice for their smartphone assistant like Siri.
To be honest, if I were ever given a choice to be part of the entertainment industry, I rather be a popular prop maker, design costumes, fake weapons, fake food, fake armor, etc because those skills can translate to other work more than voice acting.
Ethan Collins
Are you fucking retarded? Awakening dub is atroucious, only thing worse than it is Fates' dub.
Hunter Russell
How do you localize Japanese honorifics when it comes to relationships anyway? In Japanese, going from Arisu-san to Arisu-chan or even Arisu would indicate a major shift in closeness and intimacy, while in English, you'd just go from Alice to Alice and good luck conveying that through tone alone.
Christopher Williams
it's not even obviously weird sounding like granny goku, if this bothers you in danganronpa you just hate japanese voices in anything
Jonathan Ramirez
I'm not him.
Really? That's cool then. Hopefully I get my chance
Josiah Peterson
>2019
>he doesn't speak Japanese
Xavier Hall
I do, now what?
Levi Hall
Some seiyuu like Romi Park can pull it off. Danganronpa just sucked at it.
Nolan Martin
Now you can enjoy the superior experience of Japanese voice acting
Cameron Diaz
retarded localization editors don't even get as far as honorifics, they love to make everyone use given names because nobody in america uses last names and it has to sound american.
then what do we do when the original has a character switch from family name to given name? just make up a new nickname for them xddd
David James
なるほど
Connor Fisher
That's a fucking lie propagated by dubfags fabricating confirmation bias. And let's not pretend any one of them actually watched the original version (or you for that matter), otherwise they would realize that when compared to the japanese voices the only notable performance is that of Steve Blum, who's the only one who manages to compare to Koichi Yamadera's original performance (and to a lesser extent the one who did Jet, Bilingslee I think, who was almost as good as Ishizuka (rip)). Whoever did Vicious doesn't even get close to motherfucking Wakamoto, and while I was fine with Wendee Lee despite her sometimes annoying pitch she still doesn't compare to Megumi Hayashibara (and no one does to this day still). And let's not even talk about the various extras and secondary characters who are barely better than your average 90's dub. I find it funny that dubfags still spread this meme when Watanabe went as far as handpicking the original cast through numerous auditions.
Daniel Rodriguez
Nevermind 2B, the Japanese version is better simply because of how godly Natsuki Hanae is as 9S
Benjamin Stewart
I honestly want to learn Jap just so I can watch anime that will never be dubbed and play porn games that will never be translated.
Justin Russell
ENGLISH va is fucking atrocious
I have no idea how Americans and bongs have such low quality VAs
Zachary Hall
Honest answer is that it depends on the game and depends on the character. Still, it's rare for a VA in either language to actually stand out as great in a performamce, but Japs (usually) have far less noticable fuckups than Eng dubs, but also have godawful voice direction (which they think is good), so it's a tossup. Though if the dub uses Jap honorifics I drop it immediately even if I prefer the English voices.
Colton Myers
Automata is literally the only game where I recommend the dub, and not because the sub is bad
Jackson Miller
Everyone should love ONE
Jeremiah Clark
Working as a VA for Nip game dubs is a shit career choice unless you unironically love doing it, so the 'talent' pool is very small. Also, most sales for Jap games are usually in Japan, so they don't invest in quality dubs, fuck they still can't be bothered to do gud localizations in current year+4
James Nguyen
It's pointless to use the japanese VA when the subtitles are dubtitles.
Asher Brown
>voice director
Pretty much this.
People don't realize at times the quality of voice direction can change stuff a lot more than VAs and localizers if they aren't well informed.
Kayden Myers
Is it autistic that I refuse to play a game with JP voice acting if the game is based on Europe/America and characters have english names, but refuse to use the dub otherwise?
Logan Perry
lol blame director for shitty actors sure
Anthony Davis
Doing it based on setting is fine if it's a realistic take. I watch anime in English but when I get around to the Yakuza Judgement spin off then that's Japanese audio only.
Anthony Price
Mythra from Xenoblade 2 has a pretty famous dub line where she's meant to be reacting to some pervy shit or something but sounds super bored. The VA later explained it was because nobody told her the context of the scene
Thomas James
>famous dub line
for fucks sake Xenoblade 2 dub is utter shit across the board and no one in their right mind even turns it on.
Jackson Young
she pounds clam on neckbeard cock as long as they flatter her
Andrew Baker
Drakengard 1's english cast is not better than the japanese. Even if Manah wasn't trash that would make it on par at best.
Isaiah Roberts
I want to eat Kira's pussy
Jason Bailey
I do :)
Austin Gonzalez
I hope English Malos steals your lunch money.
Grayson Harris
If that's all I gotta do now all I have to do is wait for a con or some shit that she'll be at. I'll give her all the compliments she wants.
Oliver Johnson
It depends on why I'm playing the English version of a Japanese game. Probably Japanese VA, but sometimes English.
Daniel Roberts
>muh emotion
>muh glorious nipponese
>curse my shiro buta (TN: WAITO PIGGU) heritage dattebayo!!!
gas weebs
Tyler Nelson
>wanting original creators intent is weeb
m8 i bet you watch foreign tv shows or films with some ameridumb dub too
Cameron Taylor
If the dub is good, I'll listen to that instead. Jap VA has started to sound really samey and annoying with its breathiness, random grunts and high pitched squealing to me. Automata's dub was ok and nowhere near as good as OG Nier's but damn 9S's VA did a great job
Anthony Young
Don't be ridiculous. Indian soap operas are a far more respectable medium and need to be enjoyed in their purest form.
Sebastian Edwards
>replying to a pasta
You're not wrong though, at this point I'm convinced the majority of people who are autistic about playing in Japanese onry only do so because they can't actually understand it and so give it far more credit than it deserves.
Wyatt Hughes
Why is Nier Automata's dub/sub debated so much more than other games?
Is it one of those cases where the dub is superior but nobody wants to admit it?
Camden Collins
Basically
Jace Carter
No.
Also >nobody
Aiden Parker
>cherry pick
If that user was cherry picking, he would've posted a good dub.
Colton Morgan
It's one of those cases where the dub is decent enough so it can be defended.
Levi Gonzalez
Why not listen to the original voice acting if you have the choice?
Jack Kelly
what is the reason then?
Caleb Evans
>Yoki Taro begged and pleaded with the localizers, "DON'T CHANGE MY BELOVED CHARACTERS!!! YOU WILL MISCHARACTERIZE MY CREATIVE INTENT!!!! PLEASE I BEG YOU!!!"
>The localizers scoffed and laughed while holding their hands over their mouths, "OH HOHOHO! WE WILL DO AS WE PLEASE YOU BAKA KUSO ATAMA! OH HOHOHO!"
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", he screamed. But it was too late. He was mou osoi and for him it was all owari desu.
Jacob Miller
Yes. The only character who gave a worse performance in English was 2B, and that's mostly due to it being uneven instead of bad, and could've been the direction more than the va fucking up.
Nathan Sanders
>Haha that's all she does
>Someone gives you examples proving you wrong
>T-those don't count
Retard
Jacob Fisher
It's debated more than other games because it's a more popular game than those other games you're thinking of. That simple.
Elijah Edwards
there are more than a few games more popular than automata with dubs/subs
Landon James
I never said those don't count, child. I was indeed wrong in saying all she did was stoic characters but I'm not wrong when I say nobody remembers her other roles.
Stop calling others retards when all you can do is make strawmen.
Kevin King
Kevin James
>dubfags being racist again
What else is new?
Landon Lopez
Bentley Long
>But I'm not wrong
Except you are, people are seiyuufags actually do follow the seiyuu they love, you brought it up knowing you were wrong.
Jaxon Foster
based /leftypol/defending glorious japan from english supremacist /pol/ shits
Joseph Bailey
Do localizers hire their english VAs off the street or something?
Thomas Phillips
Look man, you can go see AC/DC live or go watch your uncle's coverband. Come on, bruh.
Matthew Richardson
>Kira's profile image
Ugly as fuck
Xavier Brown
they hire them for their voice
not in 2B's case though idk what happened there
Levi Sanders
Kira is Rina-chan from Newgrounds. IE the voice of every girl from every major animation. She's got loads of old contacts.
Isaiah Sanchez
>waifufagging over voice actors
Aaron Jenkins
not the street, they do it off youtube!
Colton Myers
Ironically, dubfags are more likely to scream "fuck racism" but will dismiss anything japanese as garbage.
Xavier Hall
Nope, I'm right. People are only remembered for their best and their worst, the mediocre is pretty much forgotten.
Which is why only obsessive freaks remember she voiced the nobodies you listed.
Carson Miller
Daily reminder that Buckland is the worst VA when it comes to video games.
Jeremiah Wilson
Is that the actual profile image they used for Runkachunk?
Nathaniel Allen
>will dismiss anything japanese as garbage.
>implying that it isn't by and large
YIKES!
Lucas Turner
>moving the goalposts this far
William Flores
Got some sauce on that? Just getting linked back to 4chins.
Carson Hill
Explain how Rina-chan = Runkachunk.
Jose Price
Normal people can understand the emotion behind the voices.
Kevin Long
What goalpost? I'm just say that dubfags are ignorant fucks who hate other cultures.
Andrew Ross
>Y-YOU'RE JUST A RACIST, NAZI, BIGOT AND HOMOPHOBE
Do you always concoct fantasies to exist within to virtue signal or am I just lucky?
Dylan Rodriguez
Always JP. Voice Acting industry there is unironically serious business.
Ayden Carter
It's not the "original" if you can't understand it.
Connor Myers
Aiden Wood
yes at the time I took the screen cap at least.
Brody Cox
Based. That's why anime dubs were a mistake.
Jose Garcia
Name 1
Tyler Thompson
I'm not a native english speaker so english wouldn't be the original either. Original acting keeps the director intentions.
Also >being happy staying an EOP.
Brandon Young
Asuka Gangly Soryu
Lincoln Baker
Are you braindead?
Landon Cox
Who cares, the game sucks.
Dominic Reyes
He never heard of those anime, only what reddit tells him to watch, how sad.
Nolan Thomas
A scream so good that they replaced the Japanese one with Liam O'brien's screaming in episode 11
Gavin Carter
Isn't Cory making a game with Tom Fulp?
John Lewis
Do you also ask colorblind people why they don't use the original color scheme?
Kevin Russell
Corey was always one of the best sleepycast members
Levi Kelly
>story in Japanese games is always dogshit
>eventually just play for the gameplay
>end up just reading the plot on a wiki
>turn all the sound off and just use subtitles while listening to music
Honestly, if you do anything other than this, I think less of you as a human being.
Henry Bell
I don't get it
Oliver Rivera
>Original acting keeps the director intentions.
The director's intention was for the audience to understand what was being spoken.
>being happy staying an EOP.
99% of "hurr stupid dubfags" clowns don't know Japanese and have to beg for dual audio for every major release.
Landon Roberts
not even people who watch dubs will excuse this sjw trash.
Christian Ross
Err, are you going to show a pic of the jap va? Or is this intentional to make me have a bias against westerners?
Angel Taylor
Don't the people that add subtitles to games going to change it just to "please the western audience"?
Christian Ortiz
it is autistic.
Jonathan Gray
it's the sequel to a dub only game so subfags that tolerated it for the first game played automata with subs and saw the dub dialog and said "wait a minute this sucks"
Kevin Nguyen
it literally is, this isn't a logical argument
Aaron Harris
newgrounds.com
The girl being portrayed here is 2B's voice actress.
Ian Fisher
Bro what? She's pretty fit without being skeltal
Ryan Rivera
it’s harder to detect shitty voice acting in a foreign language
Justin Wood
Asuka Lanklet Soryu
Luis Hughes
>Another example would be 9S's playful responses to 21O, which miss the point in English again. "Yeah, yeah" "One affirmation will suffice" "Fine... [sulkingly]" vs "Hai, hai [cheerful]" "Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [just as cheerful]". It shows that he plays around with the rules and even when told off, he's going to still push the rules as far as he can without actually breaking them. There's a big difference between sulky got told off by robot mom and cheeky little shit.
Dubfag here, you raise a good point. There's a musical quality to a lot of Japanese performances, they tend to embellish their deliveries with cute little lyrical nonsense vocables. Like jazz scat singing. That's why the FLCL dub works so well, because the English cast emulated some of those oddities, which are otherwise rare to non-existent in the English lexicon.
Blake Howard
>watching flcl dubbed
Benjamin Cruz
So where is the voice actress' newgrounds shit? She ever do any lewd?
Wyatt Roberts
It's a good dub. There's quite a few good dubs out there if you're will to stop regurgitating the meme you were taught on Yea Forums and look.
Nathan Hill
Pretty sure "dubtitles" aren't an issue with automata since the game released with english translations before the dub was even out
Connor Bailey
Jeremiah Myers
>buck
Please god no dont remind us of the E3 fiasco
Ryan Carter
Hah I wonder if I could email that, compliment her then get her nudes
Jace Edwards
>dubs
>ever good
Hit me up when Funimation stop using the same VAs, changing scripts for cheap jokes, and getting good VAs instead of a bunch D-Listers.
Jacob Rogers
Only getting into anime here, does Funimation still do shit like that fucking Gamergate reference in Prisonschool?
Levi Thomas
>that profile pic
yeesh i guess not everyone can be Laura Bailey or Cristina Vee
Lucas Sanders
Mason Davis
Who dis?
Adrian Martinez
Who approves this shit? Why piss off your target audience? Christ it's like when NoA censored the shit out of Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
Adrian Myers
Too late
Mason Miller
eops are trully pathetic creatures
Bentley Sullivan
I'll give you that, I can't think of any dubs in the last few years that I really like. Aside from Attack on Titan.
Christopher Mitchell
she was one of the voices in huniepop if that counts
Gavin Fisher
Cristina Vee
Nathan Davis
>Attack on Titan
You need to quit the dub now.
Jeremiah Lee
>stop using the same VAs
And yet you can't name any of them because if you try you'll out yourself as the retard you are.
Levi Watson
aren’t jap dubs praised for having the same few VAs in everything?
Jaxon Collins
Did she get a boobjob recently? Her chest looks bigger than it used to be.
Andrew Wright
wow those implants are kinda awkward.
Jace Foster
Just because english VAs are used repeatedly doesn't stop them from being no-names.
Ryder Harris
Yikes, open and shut case.
Sebastian Edwards
is da man going to win his lawsuit?
Blake Johnson
>How did they get voiceactors for Drakengard 1 to be so spot on and so much better than japanese yet fuck up in future games?
You evidently haven't played the game lol
Xavier Morris
>nope I'm right
>is completely and factually wrong and blown out
Only on the internet do you find ''people'' like this.
Robert Jackson
many people won't admit this but you are based enough to call out the truth
Owen Myers
Yes, and that's because they have talent. The same can't be said about english VAs. Since no ones thinks about wanting to be a dub VA when they grow up, they hire the same actors over and over despite them being less talented than they Jap counterparts.
Colton Morgan
Cute tummy
Liam Turner
>watching FLCL subbed
webmshare.com
Kevin Miller
but they’re both pretty terrible
Austin Stewart
Junpei was Vic?
If so Rad.
Levi Clark
>Why piss off your target audience?
They clearly didn't because weebs didn't hear about it until two months after the episode came out. No one acting outraged about it watches dubs in the first place.
Nathaniel Brown
Who should play her in the inevitable Netflix adaptation?
Kayden Scott
That's just shitty logic to justify having your cake and eating it too. You can't name the "same VAs they use in everything" because they don't exist.
Levi Cooper
It's weird how both sub and dub for FLCL are kinda fucky. They're really not that great.
Connor Evans
Probably not.
Kayden Scott
Christopher Walken
Sebastian Evans
>y-you're blown out
Grow up.
That's an adorable projection. As if reddit or you know what Armitage III is, because that's the kind of stuff I was watching on VHS long before your mom decided to have you.
Jaxson Parker
Nah FLCL dub is perfect, I can't think of a single performance I didn't enjoy.
James Watson
He can't cope with being a leddit.
Julian Martin
>ruin someone's reputation and career
>completely get away with it
Why is the world so unfair?
Jack Green
Dunno whether I love pre or post boob augment Christina more.
Benjamin Perez
No. Some are pretending he has a leg to stand on to farm outrage clicks from culture warriors but he has no case.
Nathan Jenkins
It's 2019.
Chase Walker
Vic Mignogna and Yuri Lowenthal are two names that come to mind but that's it. Sorry m8, I just don't watch dubs that much since I don't hate myself, so I wouldn't know about the "scene".
Brody Gonzalez
Vic's only burned by Funimation but not Viz and there's no way he's blacklisted outside of Funim. I just think on the chance he does win the suit he'll probably have drained his bank account or something. I just want him to dub those Rohan OVAs already.
Connor Lewis
Chris Sabat?
Jace Campbell
>Anime subbed
>Games dubbed
Fuck reading subtitles while trying to actually play the game.
Kevin Edwards
Prefer dubs as a kid, but prefer subs now and will watch the dub when it comes out a year later. Gives me a reason to watch them twice.
Jack Peterson
Read subtitles anyway when I played games. Even during the combats.
James Thompson
>not understanding whats going on while playing the game
Kayden Morgan
Fuck Rinachunk she ruined my wi...I mean sisters voice.
Chase Morales
Nier was literally rent-a-game tier, on the same level as fucking Spiderman on the ps4. After you finish the epic credits fight and buy the trophies, there's no need for you to play. It's a dull story that some people think is "game of the generation". How mentally ill do you have to be to even think that?
Charles Cox
I liked it
Camden Walker
>Rina wn park her Chunk on your face.
Parker Gomez
Actually git gud
Aiden Cruz
>he wants to fuck an android
user...
Caleb Morris
I don't remember what she looked like before, so she may very well have had work done
Caleb Allen
She spent too long looking at perfect 2d tiddies she got jelly
Andrew Phillips
For what purpose does a robot have a fat ass?
Gavin Nelson
that's where the batteries are kept
William Ward
lol SEETHING
Jace Cook
Because Yoko Taro wanted to jerk off a little.
Grayson Carter
Even pre-lawsuit Vic barely counted as a Funi VA, only being called in for reprisals and bit parts, and Yuri has never worked for Funi outside of reprising Suzaku in the Geass sequels. I rest my case.
Jacob Stewart
stop liking what I like
Julian Powell
If you play in Japanese have voices in Japanese. If you play in English have voices in English. This isn't rocket science.
Nathaniel Flores
English VA because sub only weebs need to be gutted like fish.
Charles Hill
Justin Cox
Either she had work done or she's wearing the tightest fucking pushup bras. She works those puppies good either way.
Joshua Lopez
No dubs.
Jacob Baker
For faggots like you to ask that
Leo Adams
Fine, I agree. Then play in Japanese.
Sebastian Edwards
Glutes are extremely important muscles for human motion, and it'd make sense for a robot emulating humans to have strong muscle substitutes down there for explosiveness and jumping power.
Connor Garcia
Considering most of the evicence against Vic came from a now deleted gossip blog on Tumblr, probably.
Nathaniel Hill
Against Funimation? Doubtful. Against Rial and whoever? Probably.
Chase Williams
Anyone else Hate Greg Chun's voice? hearing him as Lukas in Fire Emblem Echoes was neat, but once I started playing other games with him, and FE Heroes, where he voices like 5 different characters, I realized that the guy has absolutely no range.
Nicholas Mitchell
>But nobody remembers those
>Thinks Aikatsu isn't huge
You rode the short bus. This isn't even up for debate. It's fact that you rode the short bus to school.
Landon Rogers
>then what do we do when the original has a character switch from family name to given name? just make up a new nickname for them
Then the nickname is made later to show even greater closeness and now they need a new nickname that doesn't fucking work.
Hunter Ramirez
when did it get deleted?
Jose Reyes
When's the last time you watched it? I'm starting for the first time and I can tell you it's definitely not perfect.
Julian Taylor
>tfw she ended up getting fake tits
Ethan Mitchell
Like I said, I don't know anythings english dubs or it's VA expect that they're small time compared to the Japanese VAs.
Grayson Collins
that just sounds like it's originally english
William Nelson
It's a game with a lot of critical plot details left unsaid, hidden away to be extrapolated and figured out. For instance the way 2B talks is different between Dub and Sub. The impact of the changes are really overblown though, there's nothing dramatically lost between versions.
Alexander Rivera
most people posting about it only know it from seeing it dubbed on toonami