Tales of Arise is a series rebirth that aims to offer ‘a highly immersive experience’

JRPGs have always been for casual babies
>we are challenging ourselves to present something that dares to step back from the traditional conventions of the series in order to attract more players
Could just as easily describe a series dying, such as Oblivion, as it could a series becoming good again ie Breath of the Wild

I guess as long as it retains fun combat and characters/character skits then it's a Tales game to me.

>Open World
>No LMBS
It's dead, Jim.

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I'm not sure how you turn tales into a more young person friendly game, it's already a super unique style of JRPG as it is by having an action combat system. I do like the artstyle for this one though, they kept the anime but the environment is almost painted or whatever they call it.

Please for the love of god get Go Shiina to do the OST, either him or Yasunori Mitsuda, his music would go well with those environments.

>looks like some fangame

Like all the other tales ?

the gameplay in the brief trailer looked legitimately more fun than any for a long time, so I'm excited.

art style is totally different, but maybe thats a good thing after all these years

mite b cool

They've been reusing the same engine since xillia. This is a welcome change

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>Battles are Tales-esque action battles against enemies and encounters

I cant wait for Tales of God Eateria

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>Tales.
>Immersive

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She won't disappear right?

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The main character designer for Arise is the guy who designed him according to the interview.

Maybe.

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It's pretty clear the influence of GE/CV that's on this game so far.

And it's a good thing.

>actually looks like a ps4 game instead of a ps3 game
>ps5 is right around the corner
Oh no...

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The interviewer specifically asked to confirm she's the heroine because of that fuck up. They know not to repeat that shit storm.

hehe
I can't help but laugh

Fuck Baba.

BABA IS GONE

ROSE DOGEZA

ALL IS RIGHT IN THE WORLD

Always bad news when people claim this. Media is immersive by nature, the very act of consuming media is equal to immersing yourself in it, outside of many critical analysis.

Immersion is something that's always there, and the only way for a creator to interact with it is to maintain it or break it, and it's usually only the latter. You do not ever make a work "more immersive" other than by removing elements that break immersion. Sadly for video games this always ends up meaning removing gameplay and interactive elements, streamlining it, simplifying things like UI etc. and generally everything that sets a video game apart from books or movies.

It's never just what it needs to be; "we made sure the story is well written, the voice actors are comfortable in their role and the music fits the scenes"

>We’re upping the intimidation of enemy designs. This comes from the idea that “you should get a greater feeling of accomplishment from defeating an enemy.” While we also worry there some female players that dislike that, it is nevertheless important for RPG battles to evoke a sense of accomplishment when defeating an enemy.
>we also worry there some female players that dislike that
the absolute state of femoids

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I'm glad Tales is finally going to give itself some better standards. It was miserable to some degree seeing Bamco rush and milk out this IP for a couple of years only to have it reach the brink of death and recycle assets for far too long. Fuck the Xilia engine and fuck them for taking that long to get rid of Baba, too bad soon they'll be another generation behind all over again. I hope this clean slate does more good than harm.
t. jaded tales fan

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Fujoshits called out

Hoping for a different composer this time i am fucking tired of the 3rd class music.

Go Shiina but then your game guranteed sucks

That is the most nothing statement I hear all the time

It literally looks better than the last 6 tales games

Wasn't Berseria a success?
why are they going "gotta appeal to a wider audience"?

>generic edgelord mc
>no cute femc
>appealing to entry-level dub watching anime fans

I'll pass.

It only did a little better than Zestiria

Berseria looks like a fucking Unity game made by one person

Berseria just managed to not bomb horribly like Zestiria did.

I heard Square gave him the boot as well

Why does this faggot look like Ludger?

>Realistically rendered environments with anime stylized characters
I fucking hate this kind of aesthetic, looks far better than Jump Force, but still looks like those Unreal 4 projects where they put cartoony ass Mario and Link on photorealistic landscapes.

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>Reboot

Does this mean they'll get rid of the homo shit like they had in Zestiria

>Development is being handled entirely by Bandai Namco Studios. Among our ranks are staff from Tales of Berseria, and some of them even worked on Tales of Phantasia. We have staff both new and old who love the series and are working on the game while discussing the “succession and evolution of tradition.”
Huh. Tales of always had their own studio, right?

Well, if the composer is a secret, it can't be Sakuraba again. I'm secretly hoping it's Kawai.

Unless you like RPG mechanics and hate gunfaggotry.

I'm not as excited for this as I am for Code Vein.

Gotta chase that pozed gaijin cash

It got dissolved in 2011 with Xillia iirc

They used to have two separate teams but they merged during Xilla.

its nu japan laziness

>JRPGs have always been for casual babi-

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The Chosen is so clumsy, she fell over again haha

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New head honcho from God Eater/Code Vein team. Supposedly they cancel Berseria sequel for switch

Cry more moefag

Ha ha

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Unlimited saga has the best ost in jrpg history
youtube.com/watch?v=KYSvX6uLC0Q

ezpz

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It's impressive to say so many words, while giving so little meaningful info.

Voice cast announcement when?

Probably during tales fest

>we really want this to be an evolution of the series you guys
>oh btw it’s a discrimination theme again lmao
I’m still looking forward to it, but come on.

Is this a thing among Japanese female players? I’ve never heard girls give a shit about how cute or not cute the monsters are in an RPG unless it’s SUPPOSED to be cute like Disgaea or something.

God forbid someone try something new

SHOW
THE
WAIFUS

So cause for concern then? This kind of talk always leads to bad things.

Trying to play Zestiria again, this time with frubam's cheat tables. Holy fuck it feels a lot better, but best girl still plays like dicks. I really wish you could force-armatize her.

That looks like they're doing way too much to be fighting a grunt.

Berseria apologized for how shit Baba is.
>villains did nothing wrong
>they're also cool bros

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Sakuraba is great elsewhere, so why does Tales music suck so much?

>villains did nothing wrong
'cept purge free will.

He said two things which pretty explains why.

He said after a certain point (I think after Abyss?) Namco wanted him to compose in a certain way from that point on. Which limits him considerably.

The other is him saying how much effort he actually wants to put into his OST also affects him. In Tales case it's pretty much no effort anymore outside of the standout track or two

The trailer looked pretty goood, first time i care about a Tales of game since Abyss

Then you propose a solution to the seraphim's curse.

Battles are Tales-esque action battles against enemies and encounters. The theme here is to give new users the feeling of “an exhilarating battle.” We’re going for battles with more intuitive and speedier action that makes you think “this seems fun” just by looking at it.
lol so CC combat is back
>We’re upping the intimidation of enemy designs. This comes from the idea that “you should get a greater feeling of accomplishment from defeating an enemy.” While we also worry there some female players that dislike that, it is nevertheless important for RPG battles to evoke a sense of accomplishment when defeating an enemy.
Of fuck off. They're still appeasing the fujo fanbase. FUCK OFF ZESTIRIA WAS TRASH ALMOST NO WOMEN PLAY THESE GAMES YOU DAMN TWATS

The laliah look alike wasn't qt enough for you?

Kill the evil seraphim, that was obviously going to be the scrapped third game's plot.

Who else is happy the dark age of Zestira and Berseria is finally over? Arise looks like the breath of fresh air Tales needed.

She looks kinda old, lanky, and pointy. Real ugly design.

So you're gay then? Good to know.

How though? The Heavenly Gate's a one-way door. If it wasn't, all the malaks would've already gone back and gave the seraphim shit over what happened.

>You're gay if you don't like hungry skeltals

>How though?
Friendship and bullshit, have you ever played a Tales game before?

Never played a Tales game. What's a good place to start if I have PC and PS4?

>the anime had to resolve her knight storyline and give her Armatization

Man the game was such a shitshow.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Everyone thought Zesteria was gonna be the best tales game ever and look how that turned out

Bamco did her so dirty. Anyone that says she wasn't supposed to be the main heroine is dumb at this point.

>Arise looks like the breath of fresh air Tales needed.
It doesn't. Not until more is revealed at least. Literally looks like it will be in the same category of mediocrity.

>Namco wanted him to compose in a certain way from that point on.
That's...interesting.

Well, you only have a choice between Symphonia, Zestiria, and Berseria. Zestiria's alright, but most people will tell you to avoid it like the plague. Symphonia's clunky to all hell and is a really fucking awful port, but the characters and story are fair. Berseria's your only real choice.

It got positive reviews but its sales might have been negatively affected by how bad Zestiria was. Namco probably noticed that which is why they want to change things up more with Arise to bring back the series.

I just hope the combat isnt made into something tales of isnt, i dont want a god eater or dark souls game i want my crazy combo heavy action.

>Berseria's your only real choice.
Thanks. That's the one with the black-haired female protag, right?

I'm excited for this but if ends up being mediocre-bad like the games post-xillia I'll be done with Tales for good.

that gave me anxiety

>i dont want a god eater or dark souls game
You might have reason to worry. The director of this is the same as the guy who did God Eater 3 and Code Vein.

>The heroine is from Rena, and is a confident and attractive woman. With the power relationship between Dahna and Rena, she and the protagonist are not very good friends from the start.
>Their relationship begins in a setting where the people of Rena discriminate against the people of Dahna, and eventually leads to a great drama.
What are the chances that we have actual romance option so that she can get the D?

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Tales of Arise is a stupid title. It doesn't flow because "arise" is a verb. It sounds like Engrish. I would say they could change it to "Tales of Arisen" or "Tales of the Arisen", but I dunno if Capcom has a trademark on the word "Arisen" due to Dragon's Dogma.

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Has Tales ever been good though?

The screaming edgelord, yes. Heads up, you really want the English dub. Eizen is a fucking treasure.

>that picture on the bottom left
She's cute as a button.

We are back to canon hetero pairings.

Yeah symphonia was when I was a teen. Vespy was alright.

where was this said?

It seems like Bamco is btfo'ing the fujos this time so there's a good chance the MC will shove his cock in her by the end of the game

I'm hoping it will have romance, its a shame that tales hasnt actually had a proper one for almost a decade now and the last one wasnt even a happy ending.

Jesus, you'd think the franchise has been homo-shit for the past decade or something. It only came close in one damn game, Zesty aside, its always leaned toward hetero relationships.

He's dead son.

Has anyone found any more fanart for this game?

>Engrish
What if it actually is Engrish? Like, what if it's supposed to be "Tales of Alise"?

The games became stagnant as fuck ever since Xillia. I don't give a fuck that they're using unreal engine 4 as long as they actually try this time and change up the stale formula they've settled into

japanese devs just keep destroying western devs
westacucks should just kill themselves already

what did she mean by this?

Yeah not sure where people got this idea from, tales has a fujo fanbase but they've had that for a long time, xillia 2 didnt pander to fujo's it just didnt have romance, berseria was basically the same boat cause velvet was too fucked in the head to care about romance let alone find anyone to do it with in their party.

There's still going to be Tales artes and shit. The male protagonist is using Phantasm Flash in the trailer.

You pretty much just gotta have combos, physical attacks, artes, and Mystic Artes to make up the core of the Tales battle system.

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But he's dead! That's what he gets for eating LoC.

Appreciate it

twitter.com/tommy_feb_26

>Game producer in BandaiNamcoEnt. Brand director of「GOD EATER 」,「CODE VEIN」and 「Tales of」 新作『Tales of ARISE』発表しました!!

The last Tales with hetero romance was 8 years ago, it has been a long time

He got dragon'd before eating lord of calamity. He only ate him after he turned into a dragon as a last resort before he lost complete control over himself.

>(Why did you choose the name Tales of Arise, when the “TOA” abbreviation is already attributed to Tales of the Abyss?) The code-name for this project was “Arise.” It is a word that came from the strong desire to revitalize to the series during development. After that, we discussed title ideas with our worldwide development and marketing staff, but everyone was in general agreement that “Arise,” the code-name that held our convictions, was the most appropriate title. So we decided that we should go with it to convey our enthusiasm for the series’ rebirth, even if we had to change the unspoken rule of the series’ abbreviation. Of course, it is also linked to the themes expressed in the story, and the word “Arise” adds to the sentiments of the protagonist and company who rise up to overturn their suppressive environment.
>We want the abbreviation for this game to be “Arise” or “ToArise.”

Im not really getting this overt desire for romance in the first place honestly. More than anything I want a solid happy ending instead of the bittersweet stuff we've gotten for the past several years. We've not gotten a solid good end since Graces I dont think.

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It seems like they're trying to make up for Tales being shitty for a decade straight with Arise. The real question is whether or not they'll deliver on these promises

I thought X2's true end was pretty good. Daughter gets to live and grow up.

I mean I get this was a big fuck up, but since when did tales have a gacha fanbase? It's more important that the game is good than it has waifus, the tales series seems to barely be staying alive from game to game and people are worried about some shit that is no indication of a games quality

Still lost both dads to get there

>We’re upping the intimidation of enemy designs. This comes from the idea that “you should get a greater feeling of accomplishment from defeating an enemy.” While we also worry there some female players that dislike that, it is nevertheless important for RPG battles to evoke a sense of accomplishment when defeating an enemy.
Dare I say,based?

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Good, the series has needed to evolve for over a decade now. Tales has held onto the LMBS system to maintain an identity, but it's proven to be such a flawed system over the years, and they might as well find other ways to make tales stand out rather than a system that they have yet to be able to balance properly in the decades the series has existed. Literally every game after Abyss has been them trying to nerf how poorly LMBS runs when given more freedom of movement. Most of the soul that the tales of series has comes from things outside of the battle system rather than what's in the battle system itself. The character interactions have without a doubt been the single strongest component of the tales series through and through when all else falters.

I'm more interested in the idea that the combat might stop being so linear, because around step is kind of cute at first, but it's such a gameplay devolving mechanic, since every game around step has existed in has turned into a sit, flash step, combo, repeat game. It's a really shallow system they need to get away from imo. We need more position oriented gameplay design, as well as maybe getting some actual parry mechanics as well rather than having a universal answer to everything type system.

Also I'm glad they noted that enemies are getting more attention. The enemy design in tales is some of the worst in video game history, because they are all stuck on the "semi-auto" LMBS system with slow as fuck movement and all you have to do is kite them around the map and they are always punching bags. At least in games like Ys, the enemies are not going to be forced into a proximity to actually fight back, you actually have to deal with them, rather than them trying to deal with you.

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>cry for years saying the xillia engine is trash
>bitch when they finally bury it

Why is she so ugly?

He still became a dragon because he was bent on killing LoC at any cost. He knew that he would turn into a dragon if he kept pursuing LoC, yet he still kept doing it because only thing he wanted was to kill LoC. Even at the cost of becoming a dragon.

Emulation is a thing. Don't be a pleb, start with Phantasia.

I am glad we are going to having one artist design the entire party.

She reminds me of Tear based on that description.
I doubt there's full romance, but I can see them ending on implied

Are the stories interconnected or something?

>t. fujo

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Here's your reply.

collete is not for lewd

>she sees your dick

She'll get it and she'll HATE IT

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Shepherd, who was meant to save the world, got killed like a pleb. What was Eizen supposed to do at that moment? Run away and hope that somebody powerful enough to beat lord of calamity will pop-up out of the blue sky?

Please don't bully Gun Lailah

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>since when did tales have a gacha fanbase?
Rays is doing really well in Japan.

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I have a thing for romance between people from different planets/races. Kinda like Star Ocean 2.

this post sums up the tales fanbase

Rays is genuinely fun.

Some are fairly obvious, like Destiny and Destiny 2. Phantasia takes places in Symphonia's universe, but 4000 years into the future. Berseria takes place about 1000 years before Zestiria. Other than that, most are standalone, but make shoutouts to each other.

we finally getting another opera vectra, feels good man

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Same here. Zesteria's artstyle was inconsistent as fuck. Sucks that they couldn't use Fujishima though

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So is Tales become Star Ocean or some shit?

Disgusting.

People are bitching because they ditched one shit art style for another. Replacing an old engine with a newer one doesn't suddenly make better aesthetics, nobody here asked for unreal 4 Zelda fan project. They could've at least gone the Square or last gen Capcom route and go for realistic anime. The characters look just the right middle ground between realism and anime proportions that it doesn't look jarring seeing them in realistic environments.

>gets shut down in less than a year in the west

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Considering that his "heroism" only resulted in Zestiria to exist, then perhaps he should've let that LoC to destroy their universe.
He would still be dead, but at least Zestiria wouldn't exist and he wouldn't become a dragon only to get killed in in said shit game.

I wouldn't mind. SO3 was a great game

>Lanky body with lots of sharp points
>Shovel-like face
>Not ugly

>we spend the entire ps4 generation playing ps3 ports with better fps at 1080p resolution
>we will spend the entire ps5 generation playing ps4 ports with better fps at sub-4k resolution
>this will go on forever with us paying full price to play last gen games on next gen machines/high end rigs

Fucking BAMCO

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Here's another for (you)

She's totally going to get DAHNA'ed

>Can't handle people not liking lanklet girls

>relying on gatcha whales while pushing primarily older / japan only characters
>Don't advertise anywhere
It was a mercy killing
Shit, Japanese Rays has a $5 for "$50 worth" of currency every twoish months
They had to do literally anything to monetize the game and they didn't try

It's almost like Tales has actual gameplay and not interactive cutscenes as combat so it can't the same degree of visual fidelity unless you want the framerate to go to shit.(Like FF7 remake which runs at sub-30)

>Muh 4k
Real talk, does anyone without autism really care about that meme?

Tales was always Star Ocean.

You guys know that the anime style is extremely dead right

Falcomfags are still playing PS2 games.
It could go worse.

>>gets shut down in less than a year in the west

Someone in Bandai Namco US mishandled it so poorly

PEAR INTO PEACH PIE
youtube.com/watch?v=QMmqiH-GPI0

Yep, they should change it to something else.

OK user

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go away

FFX looks better than the shit Falcom shits out.

Michael was a fucking fag, shit person all around.

"To Arise" at least works grammatically in English

Isn't Bamco the jewishest of all the big jap game companies? They seem to always be the one putting the least effort and money into their games, be internally developed, or third party publishing.

Hey look, it's that furry game which will be in English never ever.

>Tales Festival 2019 is art themed
>Beryl isn't one of the MC's
>Beryl isn't even invited
Best girl never wins

Hey maybe, how about you give us this time the ability to disable jumping, that would be swell.

lmao

you haven't played Berseria have you?

it looks way better while running in 4k 60fps, the pictures are deceiving

>Like FF7 remake which runs at sub-30
>demo presentation a year before release runs at sub 30 fps

I know you're a tales of shill but come on, you can do better than that.
I don't give a shit about 7R or SE but you're fucking retarded. Even that piece of garbage XV run fine on a base PS4 and that was using a trash engine, 7R is using UE4 it's pretty much guaranteed to run above 30 at 1080p with a shitton of jaggies all over the screen and it looks a million times better than any tales game will ever look.

Stop shilling and just admit that BAMCO are fucking jews and that they refuse to give Tales of games a decent budget.

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It's not even fair a comparison, Falcom is like, fucking poor, and make money on a budget equal to that of a Mc'donald's happy meal. Bandai Namco makes more money in a week than Falcom does in a year.

Damn. That's rough.

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i don't give a crap about 4k, i am just saying that's how the games will run.

Meh, it's pretty crap plot/character-wise.

What was the problem with this character again? Never played the game.

>just admit that BAMCO are fucking jews and that they refuse to give Tales of games a decent budget.
That's common knowledge, isn't it? If it isn't a mainline shounen title, Bamco just gives pennies to fund the project.

most retarded post i've ever seen on Yea Forums.

Linear Motion Battle System is entirely dead, then?

The fact that the entire plot is about how humans should accept furries which is just a complete joke.

she gets shit on really hard with no proper pay off or resolution, getting booted out of your party after only a quarter of the way in after being billed as the heroine

Don't worry, Crestoria is coming next. And will also be disappearing next.

So basically Dahna people are like the blacks of this game?

If only they'd die in Japan too, fucking gacha cancer.

they claim its still limbs in the press releases

your unreal 4 Zelda fan project meme is dumb, environments look great.

>If it isn't a mainline shounen title, Bamco just gives pennies to fund the project.
They give pennies to any project that isn't Dragon Ball and Tekken. Look at the last Naruto game, or Jump Force, or that shit ass MHA game, or Black Clover, or Seven Deadly Sins, and so on and so forth.

Pre-release material showed Sorey as the hero and Alisha as the heroine. Fast-forward to release, and fans are livid that she leaves abruptly pretty early on and rarely shows up at all, with Rose taking her place. Baba then says that it was the fans' and media's fault for misinterpreting pre-release material. Fast-forward even further and it's brought to light that Baba had a huge crush on Rose's VA, and that the script may have been re-written to give Rose more spotlight so he could spend more time with her. The backlash was large enough that Rose's VA apparentl dogeza'd in public as an apology.

I don't recall if Baba ever apologized for the whole fiasco.

Arise still looks better

what does he even mean by this.

>Minoru Iwamoto, who works at Bandai Namco Studios, is the main character designer and head of art direction. This is the first mothership title in the series where both of those roles are filled by a single person. But because of that, there is a sense of unity in the game’s art in various respects.

While it's sad to see Fujishima/Inomata go, I'm more than happy that we aren't having a mehs of artstyles like in the most recent entries.

go play your pokemon game why don't you

I never said the environment looked bad, my point is that stylized anime characters in realistically rendered locations look jarring and stupid. There was clearly no effort into trying to adapt the character designs into fitting the new overworld design, they just put anime characters in the 'real world', Jump Force style.

I bet you play pokemon and 2d mario exclusively you fag

>LMBS
the combo system was fine, the movement was awful. Tales Of has needed a serious spring cleaning for a decade now. The combat system was too awkward and then they trivialized it in Berseria, so there really is no reason to not rethink how it should work.

I'm personally excited about this, I hope they can focus on some of their side activities which have been hit or miss for awhile. I like hearing abou tthem giving the details more of a polish and the idea of a better, more encompassing experience is always welcome. As long as the tone of the story remains similar, it should be fine, unless ofc they just casualize the fuck out of the gameplay making it worthless, i'm all for it.

>realistically rendered locations
this looks realistic to you? honestly?

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>Linear
We Loose Motion Battle System now.

Every tales game sells at about the 300k mark. They wanna boost it to millions and capture a mainstream audience. Good for future games budgetwise, but it could easily monkeypaw tales fans hard with them pandering the normalfags

I'm not much of a fan of jrpgs, but I thought the Arise trailer looked pretty good.

They said they'll be using their own shaders on top of the UE4 engine. It wouldn't hurt to wait until we see more now, would it?

>While we also worry there some female players that dislike that, it is nevertheless important for RPG battles to evoke a sense of accomplishment when defeating an enemy.

i don't get it

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nice... looks like darksiders 2 + ffv + god eater/monster hunter world + vesperia

Basically, "fuck the fujos, its our show now!"

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>Reboot
>In a franchise where almost every game is a one off story all set in different universes with a handful of exceptions
What would even be the point?

The vast majority (and the biggest consumers) of Tales of stuff in Japan are women. They pander and market to them heavily.

I think he's saying that Females don't like a good challenge and the satisfaction of overcoming. That and they don't like non "Cuteish" monsters

They need to hire Grant Kirkhope

tales is literally related to star ocean, they are sibling franchises in a lot of ways, well half-siblings I guess

Tales really hasn't done a traditional romance in quite a while so going back to it at a series rebirth does make sense plus the whole Zestiria shitshow.

>its the MHW of Tales
I knew it

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that explains so much about the tales games holy fucking shit

falcom is a really poor group that mostly made PC only games until relatively recently, and PC games are fucking unpopular in japan, and for a long time their games only released in japan, it wasn't until recentlyish that their games started coming out internationally with any consistency, it was basically just a few Ys titles over the last 30 years that made it west, now their entire library is slowly coming out.

But they are poor as shit, they basically pump out vita tier games because they have no money, at least they have an excuse and their gameplay and music direction more than makes up the difference. Until cold steel, most of their games had lots of soul

The gays are getting BTFO'ed

Compared to Beseria and Zesteria? Absolutely.

Yeah but they like the characters, they don’t give a fuck about the monsters.

It’s no worse than most Tales games.

They're drastically changing the franchise.
It's why this new game is Tales of Arise even though Abyss already used A

Something that will revitalize the series and be a massive success in the west?

>MHW of Tales
So a fantastic game that pretend "core fags" hate it for wrongly stating it ruined the franchise?

>There will probably be some fans who only watch the trailer and feel a sense of uneasiness, but we had discussions regarding fundamental appeal of the Tales Of series and the points to carry over, and decided and planned our points of evolution based upon that
As long as it doesn't stray far from traditional Tales I'm willing to give it a chance. But when developers start pulling the "we want to appeal to the widest possible audience" shit, it usually means bad news

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>Worldbabbys
Don't reply to me again

If Xenoblade 2 can sell well despite being weeb as fuck, then so can Tales.

Xeno became a huge name because Shulk got into Smash. It's a different case than Tales.

>skits are now played by moving 3d characters
>you get half less skits instead
Yay or nay?

Shulk’s inclusion in Smash 4 probably had a very minimal effect on Xenoblade 2’s success.

I hate to be that user but as a female (female) Tales fan I welcome more challenge. As long as the character interactions are still enjoyable and if they reintroduce more challenging puzzle elements opposed to the hallway simulator, I'll be happy. I'd also welcome a straight romance, since I'm not into the gays.

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I've never played a Tales game. Can you tell me a little about the series, and which entry I should try to see it at its best?

I like the new direction the series is heading towards but fuck all of you crapping on Baba. He's the one pushing for localization during Tales drought in the west back then and he's always committed to traveling around the world and getting fan feedback.

I wonder what the scale of that statement is
If it is "we want the call of duty audience" then it'll be a massive failure, but if it is "we can't continue to rely on otakus buying overpriced figures anymore" then I'm all for it

If your comment made any damn sense Xenoblade Chronicles X would be the one to sell well since it was fresh from Shulk's inclusion in Smash, not Xenoblade 2.

you should try vesperia DE, i'd say thats the best entry.
The series is mainly about a cast of likeable characters traveling around and bantering and eventually having to deal with some world ending maniac. It also has really good combat, some of the only JRPGs with actual combo videos

>Realistic rendered =/= photorealism
And yes, it does, the foliage, the materials, the houses, the stone structures, all made to look more realistic, specially when it comes to the texturework.

If you put Geralt in the place of this anime guy, it wouldn't look too dissimilar to The Witcher 3.

don't fall for the memes, the series is garbage

this game is for big brains only and it exposed the entire gaming industry when it released, people giving it bad reviews and the criticism basically amounted to "I don't get it". Similar to the last remnant, the other big brain jrpg, both saga games no less. SaGa in general confuses the casual

They're JRPGs that are heavily molded by anime cliches. The main draw is that the combat is action oriented and more often than not allows for pretty crazy combo potential utilizing over the top attacks.

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You should also say that said combos are only achievable at end-game and after you grind up arte usage.

If they're not retarded they'll know this is a niche genre and trying to appeal to people outside of this audience will strip them of their identity. Appealing to the widest possible audience is for shit like Fortnite and CoD

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466280370/#466296742
You are still going down for this even if the thread archived.

i figured that was self-evident, even DMC requires you to buy skills before you can go off

This too, because this , is late game on NG+. But while that is a extreme example, you are still able to make and utilize combos earlier in most games if you utilize the mechanics properly.

DMC doesn't require you to play the game for 30 hours before it becomes midly interesting and not a complete borefest.

>Says Hearts is his favorite Tales
>Only get the remake
>On Vita only
>It's still stuck there
Don't believe his lies

the fact that they had to rush out Xillia and Xillia 2 instead of making one combined Xillia is a goddamn travesty

Well let's just compare it to other Tales. Even with just Symphonia or Xillia, the artes and skills you need for combos are earned by mid-game. All you need is to equip the proper skills and use your own creativity to tie it all together. With Vesperia, barring Yuri, the skills you need to chain artes together properly don't pop up until really late, and even then, some key artes don't get certain mechanics until you use their garbage base forms a hundred times. Judith in particular is fucking trash on a fresh run.

I never understood how can anyone like this series?
The story is barebones MUH DARKNESS SHIT
The dialogue writing is atrocious
The characters are walking cliques with no depth
The artstyle is the most boring generic "typical anime from 2010"
The music, besides opening songs, is bland.

It's like moeblob of jrpgs.
The are plenty of other jrpg series that are MUCH better in one way or another.
FF has decent to good soundtracks, sometimes it has decent stories(FF6, 10, 14), some of the games have dialogues with actually pretty good writing(tactics, 12, 14).
SMT series has that whole grim and dark setting and focus on religion, which is pretty neat.
Persona is much better at being "generic anime jrpg" than Tales.
Kingdom hearts has nice gameplay, sometimes.

Tales is worse than all of the above.
I'm convinced that people who are into Tales are just bottom of the barrel plebs.

tales is the nepshit before nepshit existed

It seems to be £35 on steam, which is more than I'm looking to spend, but I'll keep an eye on it and see if it gets a good sale at some point. Thanks.

I mean given they said they're trying to make it less feminized, I'm not sure how you would think that

>Implying I dont play all that weebshit

tl;dr

t. found the series after graces

I'M GONNA SAY IT

TALES
OF
ARSE

Hell no, this is what MHW should have been; an evolution of Tales games.

yeah but vesperia is the most balanced one. Not as good combat as xillia but with actual dungeon design and a finished story while still having a more updated combat system than symphonia

>So a shit game that console warriors pretend to like because it's not on a nintendo console?
FTFY.

The battle system in Zestiria and Berseria is fucking garbage so I'm glad they're trying something new.

So instead of making a new IP they make this shit. They don't want this to be tales but the name.

Basically the ''fuck our old fans we want the normalfags western shitters audience now''

Tales is already garbage, so "westernizing" won't make it any worse.

MILLA IS THE BEST TALES

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This.
It was overly complicated for no fucking reason. That skill/bonus system in Zestiria is some galaxy brain shit.

HAIL THE KING OF SUFFERING

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Seething

>the most generic-ass JRPG franchise in history
>highly immersive

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>heracles
I'll take no dungeon design, thanks. Fuck ladders.

Guys, I just remembered, Hideous Baba fucking trashed Tales and bounced off to work for Squeenix, they gave him a whole studio to work with. He did literally nothing for two years and then left there too.
What a fucking hero.

New Tales looks good though.
I hope there's good Idolm@ster DLC, Berseria was a bit weak only having a single battle theme with the DLC.

>No cel-shading
>Reboot
>God Eater team
HARD PASS

>Kingdom hearts has nice gameplay, sometimes.
So does Tales.

RIP TALES 1995 - 2016

Fun fact: Baba in Russian is a rude way to say "woman".
Not just woman but a peasant woman.
So he's surname is basically female version of pleb

>dodge roll
Oh no...

KH1 has better gameplay than the entire tales franchise

He just wanted to protect his daughter and the world shit on him.

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More like 1995-2011

TALES FEST THIS SATURDAY & SUNDAY

WILL SCAMCO SHOW SOMETHING NEW?

They've confirmed that they'll be showing new stuff there

>Scamco
it's no surprise but I've been highly impressed with the amount of garbage they've squeezed out lately.

This is false

Sorey, Laphi and Velvet could've done it.

Tales of we want the normalfags audience.

Don't a good number of normalfags know of Symphonia?

Combat confirmed ruined

Maybe that's why Baba Yaga is so mad all the time.

>Coming to PS4 and Xbox one
Why do switchfags keep on getting btfo'ed?

This isn't the first time this franchise has done that though. Symponia, Abyss, Vesperia, Graces each fucked with the core formula in some way.

Do I replay Berseria or replay Vesperia?

>god the artstyle sucks why couldn't we have gotten a GOOD artstyle for once it's so generic boring fucking anime artstyle
Just admit you want it to look like Vesperia

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Berseria with mods.

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I never denied wanting it to look like the best Tales game.

I had hoped that after the remaster with PS3 content the Vesperiafags would stop obsessing over it, but some things never change.

But which girls are gonna be the sluts?

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>Symponia, Abyss, Vesperia
How the fuck can you say these 3 changed anything when they play almost exactly the same as each other?

The ones that really changed things were Rebirth for removing TP, Destiny DC for removing arte tiers, Graces for moving the camera to third-person, and Berseria for removing linear movement.

Because he's a Team Symphoniafag who barely even played the series in its entirety.

>If you put Geralt in the place of this anime guy, it wouldn't look too dissimilar to The Witcher 3.

You guys are fucked in the head

>Stop shilling and just admit that BAMCO are fucking jews and that they refuse to give Tales of games a decent budget.
Man, this sentence really doesn't work when it's in a post where you also defend a company who is about to make you pay 70 bucks * 2~4 for a remake of a 20 years old game and said multiple times that FFXII-like cities are absolutely impossible to do on PS3/XBox360 to explain why FFXIII had fucking shops fused with savepoints.

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My girlfriend worked on this game before it was rebooted two years ago. As far as she knows, they threw the original concept into a late game planet and started from scratch with different locations and story.

They could and have done far worse.

If you're not shitposting did she say anything else interesting?

Is your girlfriend cute? Japanese?

So was it just gonna be a one planet story initially?

This game is going to be rushed isn't it

- Me only like strong man, fuck off!
- You are strong man now, but I'm a tsundere about it, fuck off!

How many playable characters are there? Do you know anything about the story? And overall is the game gonna be good?

Insecure preteen girl

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why isn't xillia 1 & 2 on steam yet

Hopefully they make combat more free flowing. A third to halfway through Berseria and this combat is boring and spammy as fuck. And Vesperia, Symphonia style combat doesn't look much better. If not for the characters I would've quit already.
At least Falcom makes it up by having a better action combat system with Ys than Tales.

Should I make a Tales general on /vg/?

I dunno

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No It happened once and it was awful, /vg/ is terrible.

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I'm so mad these two didn't have sex

Viege a shit

Thoughts?

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All jrp's look the same.

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B-but I like you guys ;_;

They're both too autistic for sex.

Game sucks but Mikleo is heckin cute

She's just playing hard to get.

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The very idea seems odd to me, I doont them as having that kind of relationship.

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I mean now we have a new mainline game coming out so we'll have a lot to discuss

Here I'll settle this with a poll instead
strawpoll.me/18162612

Trust me, you're better off. All the tripfags would would come out the woodwork. Onsokumaru with his bullshit, Bojangles with his lewd dumps. Nah, hard pass.

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Are you niggas for real.

This picture annoys me. I imagine Eizen would’ve rushed in to explain the benefits of a good night’s sleep.

I will say, that I hope they bring back multi-character mystic artes

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>Eizen by himself

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I imagine this being like the 5th time its happened in some capacity and he's like sick of their bullshit.

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As long as Koei Tecmo and Konami exist, they are rather tame

Why is everyone want Zestiria to be connected to this game so bad? It's garbage that should be buried for good

Here's hoping for no battle transitions and a small party.

did he summon soul calibur?

>people
You won't fool anyone, you're the only autist that doesn't like her, your imaginary friends don't count.

Magilous' armpits

>you're the only autist that doesn't like her

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3rd party probably, but nin "here's your $60 rom" tendo reigns as king of japanese jews

Holy shit was that sword Soul Calibur? Goddamn I really need to play Rebirth one of these days. IF ONLY IT WAS TRANSLATED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Are you really gonna ignore the fact that every e3 presentation looks and runs better than the actual game itself. Only exceptions are "pre-alphas" and after minimum 6 years of development FF7R can't possibly be considered pre-alpha

At this point you should just give up user

I'm a brainlet and forgot to add the /vg/

Why did you bother making a general if you don't even know how to crossboard link?

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I'm a retard

Tekken 7 and DBFZ are the most well produced fighting games out right now.

I'm hoping history doesn't repeat itself because I remember being excited as hell for zestiria and we all know how that one turned out.

Baba getting booted and finally using a new engine is giving me some hope but I'm still gonna wait this obe out.

If one compamy won't bring shit to tendo the blame's on them but if nobody brings their shit to nintendo...

I really hate the design of the main chick she looks straight out of a low budget mmo game

thanks for introducing me to this user

Every time I see Tales of Arise I misread it as Tales of Anise.

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I just want Berseria-style world and side quests with Ys8-style combat

I was so fucking done with Xillia's artstyle before I even reached the end of the game. And then they reuse the same assets for 3 more games, and I wanted to pull my hair out.

I've been desperately waiting for tales to move past this shit, so I'm at least a little hopeful for Arise.

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>The composer is still a secret, but will be introduced at a later time.
SAKURABA DECONFIRMED

FUUUUUUUUUUCK YES

Dare I say... romance is back on the menu, boys?

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I love her, tsundere sniperfu.

Has this game been playable at E3? Any impressions?

Isn't this what they said about Zestiria?

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Worldwide release is confirmed but what about it being a simultaneous(or at least a close) one. The game being jp exclusive for the average near year long will kill some hype and the "EOP" people usually like to mislead people about the quality of games before they get localized.

Zelda games never stopped selling millions uppon millions of copies, breath of the wild takes all the Zelda mechanics and put them in an open world.

This tales games takes the tales mechanics, destroy them and pretty much creates a new game that has nothing to do with the older games.

It was never that good of a series. This will probably be an improvement.

They just revealed the game so nope, just a trailer. Playable demos are more likely to happen in Fall during TGS or next year.

Honestly, this mostly sounds like your classic corporate talk that's whole load of nothing. These guys make bullshitting into an artform, so I take whatever they say with a grain if salt til I see it myself

>This tales games takes the tales mechanics, destroy them and pretty much creates a new game that has nothing to do with the older games.

Holy shit you have the game already ? tell me how the vombat works.

Will muliplayer still be around in this one?

It's a staple to the series at this point, can't imagine them removing the mp feature.

yes

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It was cocked up big time by the fusion system in Zestiria and Berseria.

>Berseria.
There was no fusion system in Berseria though

i don't rike it

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Like God Eater, Code Vein, Hack U,and pretty much every anime action rpg Bandai Namco has done in recent times.

Battle have no transitions. You free run around and can attack enemies right on the map. While free running there's only one attack button but you can set up a 4 artes chain like Berseria. When you target the enemy it switches to linear motion like Graces/Zesteria centered on the target and you get more arte options by directional input with the attack button.

Trust me, my uncle works at Bamco.

sounds sick, your uncle did good

I'm thinking it'll be simultaneous because of how the PV was in English, even the Japanese one.

So it will be at very least good ?
I'm all in for it !

Still better than trails of series, which you are probably a semen slurper of.

>linking to reddit
Come the fuck on

Dragon Quest and Persona seem to be doing just fine with an anime style.

>2020
T-Time machine where? I just want to play a Tales game after so long.

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Legit question, but could someone tell me the appeal of the Tales of series? What distinguishes it from other JRPGs?

The artstyle.

LONDON
O
N
Despite that, it's referring to the major fujoshit playerbase that doesnt care about combat that much. Also puzzles in tales always sucked, prove me wrong.
O
N

Poor Beryl, she has one of the better character arcs in the game and she gets shit on not only in the game's world AND in gameplay terms, but in the metaverse too.

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the characters

Real-time combat and character interactions, I think. Compared to many other old-school JRPGs, Tales was unique with its combat system. Even now, JRPGs mainly use turn-based combat. And one of Tales major charm points are the skits, which offer quick little segments where the characters chat amongst each other in a natural manner. It's in stark contrast to other JRPGs where characters have to always stand around in a cutscene and have awkward pauses between dialogue.

>Man, this sentence really doesn't work when it's in a post where you also defend a company who

goes full retard and spends $200 million on its flagship titles whether they're 5 hour long or 100 hour long?

You can blame SE all you want about being jews but they're retarded jews, they lose money on bloated projects even when they try to jew you. Bamco spends the bare minimum on Tales of games and then developers get flak for it.

>Also puzzles in tales always sucked
Puzzles in any game in any genre suck. Puzzle game is also a meme genre.

In b4
>Hurrr durrr you're just a brainlet. Git gud durrr hurr

Most of it looks good, but the characters look so soulless. Like Berseria, except for Velvet. Zesteria was a shit game otherwise, but at least most of the characters looked good. Vesperia unreached.

>FFXII-like cities are absolutely impossible to do on PS3/XBox360
Wait, what

You better not be talking shit about Tetris Attack.

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Noone owned a WiiU, though.

i don't like the code cein/souls like influences

My Naga, don't dig up these memories please.

In a way, it was a series rebirth - or rather, an abortion.

ps5/scarlett are back compat so you won't have to buy them anymore

Used to be the anime artstyle but since the days of ps2/gamecube era many companies learned how to cell shade and use their own styles. ArcSys is a good example. Not only that but as you can see in arise, bamco also decided to ditch their own engine and just go with UE4 and use custom anime shaders.

Combat is unique-ish. It's nice and combo friendly, the freest ones are from xillia 2 and hearts R in my opinion, although the chrono transformation in X2 kinda ruined it for me. Fusion and transform gimmicks are shit in general.

Character interactions through skits and side quests take on a less serious and goofy approach. Cliche as it may be it also brings its own charm.

If you have autism like most of us, weapon crafting, skill maxing, title grinding, etc is also a feature, albeit different from title to title, is present in all games.

Equal disparity between genders and character archetypes. You will usually find someone you like in main cast in every game (and hate too) probably.

Most of the characters in Zestiria look like shit. Doesn't help that the two artists meant that characters look like they came from different games.

>series rebirth
That's exactly what we needed, Berseria was a step in the right direction. Hoping they can actually pull it off.

Looks better than the soulless Xillia style they've been running with for like a fucking decade.

>PS5 confirmed to not read CDs. AGAIN.
>If it's BC, it's gonna be PS4 and maybe PS3 and PS2
>No PS1 backwards compatibility
Sony is full of hacks.

Umbrella loli gave me big balls for weeks.

>no one coming out to defend Zestiria and Baba
It isn't a Tales thread without them.

New interview:
gameinformer.com/e3-2019/2019/06/13/tales-of-arise-is-a-reinvention-of-the-series-but-not-open-world

Things to note
>not open world
>not many changes from core battle system

Edna was the only good character in that game.

Not open world might be a nice change if they mean going back to how it was pre-Xillia. Still hoping for a classic overworld.

She's too fucking smug.

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How could you forget Zaveid?

But BOTW is the worst Zelda game

He was merely okay.

>not open world
Big if true. Only took them 4 mainline games to realise open world is a meme in tales.

Si, it's gonna have wide open areas like Xeno 2

next year when...

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>No more Sakuraba
Tales is saved.

jade and sophie were the only good characters in that game

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It actually looks current gen instead of a low budget JRPG like Ys.

It started as a simple game where I could push buttons and stab things in real time. Then you learn some cool moves. Maybe in other jrpgs, you'd get to hit twice in one attack, but Tales of Tiger Blade. Then came Destiny. I got a talking sword, Stahn started to learn big ass attacks. Though still in its infancy, I could sort of chain these moves together and it was pretty cool. Sure, along the years, other games did it better, but it held a special place in my heart.

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Jade is garbage though, he did everything wrong

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Isn't it sad, Beryl-chan?

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The skits and the battle system.
Also they tend to have really enjoyable characters and stylish cut-ins.

Plus really nice touches like the world theme changing as the story progresses as well as the battle system.

Why do they look like they're on the white set of the In Living Color opening?

How does Berseria's combat rank in the series? I thought it was really boring.

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Go on user, purge all your desires and live as an efficient and orderly drone to your ruler. Live that life you praise so much.

>Tomizawa himself had a sticker of Sans from Undertale on his laptop, a game which he professes a fandom for
We need Baba back.

He's such a sociopathic troll. I bet he'd let the world end if he could get a laugh out of it.

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By Berseria, I was really getting tired of attacking its weaknesses for massive damage bullshit.

>We need Baba back.
No, we need Makoto Yoshizumi.

in regards to the ps4 backcompat there is no if

Tales is dead

>makes graphics less anime
>spouting stupid buzzwords like immersive experience
This game is confirmed literal shit trying to appeal to western normies. If you actually like the Tales series you don't buy this one

No, we need the Wolf Team to get back together.

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Play the vita tales games

but will the music be good

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Doubt it, but we'll see (or hear) about that.

Tales of Eternia is a really good 2D entry that can be completed quickly enough, and Syphonia, while a bit clunky now, it an excellent entry into the 3D games. Vesperia is probably the best Tales game period, so while you could start with it, you might be disappointed with the rest afterward.

I played them far too much, and it makes me sad Hearts R was the swan song of the series.

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The combat is like a stylish action/character action/spectacle fighter/cuhrayzee/whatever you wanna call it

>Innocence R didn't get localized
>Tempest R which was hinted at didn't happen

Feels bad. I was hoping Namco would find a way to fix Tempest.

>I was hoping Namco would find a way to fix Tempest.
Namco literally created a whole new category to show how much they disliked Tempest.

I'd be fine with less skits. At some point they're a pain in the ass to stop every 10 seconds and listen to an inane conversation. Maybe put that characterization in the plot itself ?

On one hand appealing to wider audiences will probably dilute the few things about Tales that made it a unique JRPG series (though it was pretty fucking diluted at this point already).

On the other hand the name is so stupid that I think that there is no way they can seriously be trying to appeal to a wider audience with it.

I just hope to god the game isn't just one big empty open world you walk around in.

Making an R version to spite the people they outsourced it to would have made sense.

Almost every bad thing that happened is on him. Either he was trying to further research or he was to lazy to say anything.

Luke is still at fault for his own actions.

Wait are you telling me they specifically made Tales of use different starting letters for a reason?

Why can't we just get a Tales of fighting game?

Great cast too. I think if it was on a home console/pc and we had a different MC it would be the best tales to date.

I'm still of the hope that it was just put on hold and not completely canceled.

It doesn't get any outright hate from the jp fanbase, unlike Zestiria. They mostly don't care about it.
Remaking it from scratch and giving it an updated system could fix that.

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Berseria was definitely very guilty of putting in too much stuff in skits instead of cutscenes.

>I just hope to god the game isn't just one big empty open world you walk around in.
At this point it doesn't even fucking matter, the game will play even less like Tales than Berseria or Zestiria and Scamco saying they're trying to attract a new audience is another horrible sign.
The fucking mobile games play more like Tales than the mainlines now, how sad is that?

We did. Well, not us, but Japan did

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>Innocence R didn't get localized
I will blame baba for that

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I own all the fucking tales games, but its always the same for me:

>Start game
>drop it midway in
>come back a month or so latter
>lol how do I attack again?
>get my shit shoved in by random monsters
>quit again.

Only game I was close to finish was berseria but the savefile got fucked up.

I should honestly take a week for each tales and finish them in a week each.

The teams were pretty odd in the story mode, but Farah and Yuri were my shit.

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>psp
All the more reason for a bigger, better fighting game.

YOU BASTARDS ARE GONNA REMOVE CO-OP AREN'T YOU GODDAMN IT

That was the very first game I bought and played in Japanese (and understood it).

Good times. Took me forever though, I was shit back then.

That's a Smash clone.

>Leaning japanese
>Decide is a good idea to play tales games
>none of them except vesperia are in japanese
>go vesperia
>Skits play automatically
>can't understand shit

lmao guess I'll keep grinding anime cards.

They also did their own musou clone, but that doesn't mean I don't want another.

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It's a cinematic immersive experience of choice YOU THE PLAYER are in the world connected etc etc. What other marketing buzzwords am I missing?

>Also puzzles in tales always sucked, prove me wrong.
I can't, but if my choice is between wandering around temples that are massive, endless hallways or temples that at least make an effect to have puzzles that at least give a little more challenge then I take the latter. At least it gives the illusion of booby traps, like there is someone is hiding something.

Sorry user, I'm in the United States of Hamburgers

>t. jaded tales fan
I don't think you're a tales fan at all.
I think you're a symphonia fag pretending you gave a shit about the series.
In reality you only liked 1 or 2 games in the series at best and claimed that's what it should be at all times.
Zestiria is the only bad Tales game I've played and I've played a fuckload of them.

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wtf Japan, stop this shit and let me plaaaaaaaaaay!

Dunno about you but I pick up Tales games to experience hours of combat, I don't go "oh boy I can't wait to see what sort of booby traps are in all these dungeons!"

The designs in hearts r look like actual garbage it makes me nauseous just looking at screenshots.

Feel the same for Innocence. I know people want them localized, but I don't even want to look at the characters more than I already do.

She looks so handsome

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He looks so cute

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Rays' wedding event starts in 2 hours. MA previews are out:
youtube.com/watch?v=kdNoLErTh64
youtube.com/watch?v=awRsKj5aiKk
youtube.com/watch?v=0mp23m6RjQc
youtube.com/watch?v=YPrxLzzNmDQ

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Yeah. How dare Luke trust his beloved father figure over the guy who trolled him. What an asshole. Fuck you.

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Yes, she looks like a boy.

>Naively hang off the man's every word
>Use the dangerous glowy power you know was dangerous to fuck with some random thiny because reasons
>Implying this is an intelligent thought process

As far as I can remember they've never used any of the tales of letters more than once.
We were getting pretty close to completing the alphabet too.
Arise is the first time (aside form re-releases, sequels and remakes) that we're seeing the same letter used twice in a mainline release
It indicates a drastic change for the series.

Abyss
Berseria
C
Destiny
Eternia
F
Graces
Hearts
Innocence
J
K
Legendia
M
N
O
Phantasia
Q
Rebirth, (Rays technically exists but that's not mainline it's a phone game)
Symphonia
T
U
Vesperia
W
Xillia
Y
Zestiria

Also W is Tales of the World

Don't forget Tempest.

Side game

Xillias are my favorite ones
Not him btw

Do not lewd the Chosen. She belongs to Lloydo

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>Man who raised you and gives you no reason to distrust him offers you a way of saving everyone
>Not taking it because some asshole necormancer says some nothing
>Oh yeah, he can also fucking mind control you.

seriously, how do people keep forgetting Van can MIND CONTROL HIM.

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God i bet she fucks like a tiger

When do I get to chain artes in Vesperia? It's annoying. I'm near the end of act 1.

And you think the past 6 games didn't look like fangames?

I think midway through Act 2 for Yuri. Don't expect it for anyone else for a long time. It really is really trash game design giving you access to artes early on but being unable to chain them properly.

They'll fuck up the combat. The only reason people ever liked Tales was because of the good Graces and Xillia 2 style combat systems and because they were a fujo. Any maybe the character designs but they lost their touch years ago.

Tales of has a massive female fanbase. I'm not surprised they said that.

>Graces
>good battle system

The biggest lie Yea Forums has ever said about this series.

I don't believe you. Before zestiria there was virtually zero fujobait in tales. It was hetero and not even that much bishie shit either. It always was a shounen franchise.

>god eater director
is gonna fail miserably isnt it?

>Before zestiria there was virtually zero fujobait in tales.
See this is how people know you've never actually played a Tales game before Zestiria.

Muh Nigga!

Yuri and his Knight buddy were fujobait, I don't think they were intentional Fujobait like Sorey, but there was something there.

The female fanbase only exists for TalesFes and merchandise spending. They don't play the games and are just deadbeat fujos.

>The composer is still a secret, but will be introduced at a later time. We will have a theme song.

FUCKING YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>Tales of Arise Has Members of Phantasia’s and Berseria’s Staff in Its Development Team

That's good.

Even all the way back in Symphonia, there was some light fujobait with the interactions between Lloyd and Zelos. It's been around for a long while now.

Every Tales of title is fucking stupid.

Must be nice to be so oblivious.

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I played all the games unironically. I think you're just delusional and have an active headcanon imagination.

At least the other ones are "Tales of (noun)" though. Arise, being a verb, sounds very fresh off the boat ESL immigrant.

>Leon laughing while winning all these character polls.jpg

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Im just glad it's not another ..IA suffix. Some of them sounded okay but what the hell is a Zesteria or Berseria anyways.

I agree. "Tales of (abstract concept)" is infinitely better than "Tales of (made up word ending in -ia)"

Zesty and Berserk

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>Everyone always hating and shitting on Zesty
>tfw I liked it

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