It amuses me when people complain about games being exclusive to a set PC platform store...

I like steam over anything other than gog. There are so many launchers nad game stores I've lost count and every time I have to use something that's not steam or gog I get annoyed af

I don't recall steam buying copies of games in large numbers in exchange for exclusivity
This kind of stupidity should be bannable

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I always eat rare or medium rare. For me it's the only way to truly taste the meat to the full extent

Why does it matter to the consumer if game X is on platform Y because of a bribe or not?

Oh fuck off, it took me 9 years to move to Steam, I didn't install it until like 2011 or 2012, I'm not going to move again because Tim "PC Gamers are Scum" Sweeney wants more money.

It depends on the game, Shenmue 3 matters a LOT, because all this shit did was grow fear on people to ever support a kickstarter project ever again

>we've had this thread everyday for months now
>it still gets hundreds of replies every time
im so dissapointed that I'm almost impressed by how well it works as easy (You) s
medium well is patrician tier

What am I looking at here ? The left pic especially.

Nobody really complains when a developer puts their own game on their platform only. There was no uproar that Fortnite or Overwatch wasn't on Steam for example.

The problem is Epic paying third party developers for exclusivity. That kind of jewry has only been in the realm of consoles until now.
Ideally developers would put their games on both platforms, and the platform with the best customer experience would win.

>Why does it matter to the consumer
Because there is no freedom of choice if you start bribing people to not release their game elsewhere?

Blue rare only.

H65X8-AN00Z-YPHAT

Thanks user

imo
medium > medium well > well done
dont care bout the rest

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>YPHAT
I actually checked if it was valid even after the claim

It matters because platform Y cant hold a candle to platform Z in terms of quality. And it doesnt have some special perks other platform W does that neither do such as DRM-free downloads
Your argument would hold weight if steam and epic were comparable in terms of service, sales, variety, functionality, security, erc. But they're not-Steam is simply too good and EGS is simply too shit

Duplicate code, what was it?

Stealth Inc 2

i remember only pirating games before steam. good times.

The line given put that Epic would break the monopoly Valve had over the market and benefit customers directly. Name one way Epic has done this.

I joined Steam in 2013 due to that exact same reasoning OP, you fucking pleb.

I refused for years to join Steam.

Medium rare all the way, I'm hungry now.

always well done

>being this retarded
Kys already.

Valve wasn't buying exclusivity. Exclusivity contracts are a cancer that was only in the console world before.

A price tracker. Shows the current and historical deals for a game on various digital stores as well as various vouchers that can be used for discounts.
Both games are part of the Metro series, but the one on the right is Epic Store exclusive, as shown by the lack of deals and discounts compared to the left.

>Be chink
>Spend years learning English
>"Maybe they'll send me to work abroad and I can see the world!"
>Communist government puts you to work arguing on a peruvian crochet forum about a failing web store nobody likes

Oh yea I remember all those times devs were paid by Steam to not put their games on GoG or Humble, yes, countless times.

Left shows a “monopoly”, as can be seen by how many different online stores the game is on, and how they have different prices so if you wanted to, you could buy the game on the cheapest platform.

The right shows “competition”, where the game is only on one online store.

Lies like every other steamtard drone post

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If Valve bought "exclusivity" then how come they happily let any of the games on the Epic Store still appear on the Steam Store?

only women eat well done meat

>this thread again
The only TRUE Steam-exclusives are Valve games. The Epic-exclusives are bribed and not made by Epic.

This makes women intelligent.

>t. well done eating woman

Epic has great exclusives

I miss old days when no one was fighting steam and everything was in one place under one easy to install program
I used to buy more games then too cause it was simply so much easier to go to steam just like you would gamestop
you could make friends and know they'd all be using steam instead of whatever shit program the company who made the game uses that's only used specifically for that

just divided pc gamers too much
steam was a good place too cause every company harvest data, but only one wasn't selling it to every advertiser to pay them

now your shit goes to every company and they're all dishing that out to anyone they can to earn an extra buck

>using a PC to play anything other than Minecraft Java and OldSchool RuneScape

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post yfw you left consoles to join PC but now their bullshit is following you

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this and steam was a marketplace where all the publishers were competing each other instead of the publishers owning the store to a set price

>half-life 2 required steam outright, or how counter-strike became steam-only

no one gave a shit when fortnite was an EGS exclusive though

It isn't. There is no "war", only actual astroturfing trying to make Epic look relevant. Notice how this never happened with Battlenet or Origin.

Normalfags are going to buy the shit out of Borderlands 3 and it's going to create a snowball effect of acceptance for this shit.

Reminder that the only reason to not pirate is to play online multiplayer, or support the studio and Epic has superior multiplayer with built in crossplay function so you can play with all your friends regardless of platform, and gives more money to the studios.
Reminder that these indisputable facts make steamtards shit their pants in rage as they look at the fake level badge they've wasted $1000+ on, and 5000 game collection (45 played) that they're leasing

>Battlenet or Origin
they also only had blizzard and ea games as an exclusive so no one really had a problem with it

Maybe, maybe not. It's been years since Borderlands was a big thing and we had a massive supply of looter shooters since then.

>built in crossplay function
r u rarted

>They wouldn't remember how people were pissed that half-life 2 required steam outright, or how counter-strike became steam-only.
Those are Valve 1st party games. They are fully in the right to make them exclusive to Steam. In the same way Fortnite is Epic 1st party, it's totally fine for it to be EGS only.

Now, you might argue that Steam has plenty of 3rd party exclusive games, and technically you are right. However, Valve is not temping developers and locking them into contracts for Steam distribution. Sure, ultimately no dev is forced to take Epic's money and exclusivity deals, but to many people Epic is just playing dirty by buying 3rd party exclusives rather than developing their own.

If there really is no difference between Epic and Steam, then how is that an argument? It's just a launcher. I guess The better pharsing is if Epic launched their store to better the PC gaming market, then how will they do this? Will they offer their games for cheaper, bankroll games? What's the plan?

How do I get to this page?

Why wouldn't I? It's really good at it.

>Valve can have their games exclusive to Steam as they made them like EGS has Fortnight being exclusive to their store
>Game on Steam is not bound to them
>Game can co-exist on other platforms
>Dev can take all their games and leave at any time to make their own platform or go to someone else
>Epic pays dev for game to be exclusive and is forbidden to have the game anywhere else besides EGS

haven't used steam until it became usable (+ discounts)

>4 month later Epic finally allowed 3rd party resellers
And in a year you will get a shopping cart! It's good to be an Epic drone.

It's still the publisher's decision, epic isn't forcing anyone to put games on their store.

unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/epic-2019-cross-platform-online-services-roadmap
As for your question, no I don't pay to rent data just so I can show my friends my fake achievement score

>Epic has superior multiplayer with built in crossplay function

I remember when Valve tried this with CSGO and TF2
Internal testings were a disaster cause PC players absolutely destroyed everyone cause both games didn't have aim assist

>NOOOOO my lies were exposed again Gabe give me another trading card worth fake steam money for defending your honor

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You know that cross-play is a GAME-BY-GAME basis, right? It's not locked to any one platform or exclusive to Epic. Even trash games like fucking Smite have turned it on to save their trash game from being irrelevant.

>Steam doesn't have a monopo-

OH NO NO NO NO

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Yeah Fortnite has been really unsuccessful because of it

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EGS allowed Microsoft to sell Metro Exodus so your last point is not true.

>waits months to get a screenshot
>"aha! Now I've got you! Behold! Key resellers!

>shady key sites that are routinely under fire for credit card fraud
Nice retailers, ebip.

>implying fortnite's success comes from crossplay
pfffff
A stretch any further and you'd be Mr. Fantastic

It's more to do with the fact that we know steam is bad but we're trapped in it, that's we don't want to be forced into a second one. steam being bad too doesnt make epic any less shitty.

Maybe you should wipe Gabe's cum from your eyes to try actually reading the article and realize that crossplay is literally a built in on/off switch of epics server function any game using it can use if they desire instead of something that devs had to implement themselves on a game by game basis.

Fortnite is an entirely different FPS than CSGO or TF2.
Plus you can see all the PC players winning like 99% of their games even if they're trash. Valve had a competitive atmosphere in their games and tarnishing that with being queued with or against extremely outclassed opponents doesn't really offer competition.

I honestly can't wait for next year when all the exclusivity deals end, if the developer puts their game full price they will get backlash for selling a year old game at 60$, and if they make them cheaper people will realize that they can easily wait and get games for cheaper on their prefered platform, there is no winning scenario for Epic, the icing on the cake would be if said games sell several times more than what they did on Epic

Based EGS

>implement themselves
You make it sound like it's some huge fucking burden when in reality it's just cross-linking platform servers you actual fucking tech-illiterate boomer.

Steam never bought exclusivity though. They were the only decent DRM around so publishers naturally flocked to it, except for those publishers with their own stores/launchers (like Blizzard)
You wouldnt know this though because your government blocks this sort of thing from entering the Hive

Official resellers are only allowed to match Epic's prices. The ones pictured on and are unofficial grey market key resellers. These markets are known for being targets to launder money with stolen credit cards.

It amuses me that Tiananmen Square June 4 1918, the Anti-Rightist Struggle, and also Free Tibet. Not to mention Winnie the Pooh.

>games without aim assist
>YEAH BUT FORTNITE
>a game with aim assist
I can't tell if everyone on Yea Forums is retarded or not anymore

Epic knowa that they can't live off Fortnite forever so they're desperate to put their foot in the door and make money off something other then Vbucks and licensing fees hence why they're buying up every game they can.

This, looking forward when the Fortnite money runs out and they realize they spent millions on "exclusives" that net them no gains whatsoever

you know there are console versions of csgo and tf2 and both have aim assist right?
you know no PC game has aim assist and fornite is no different?

Not happening, they've also got that mountain of Unreal Engine license $$$ to lean back on.

>THE FORTNITE MONEY WILL RUN OUT ANY DAY NOW ITS DEFINITELY NOT MONEY FROM THE ENGINE THAT 75% OF ALL GAMES USE

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I am fairly sure the money they get from the Unreal Engine license is not even the 1% of what they get from Fortnite

Good job proving my point, retard. At the time of release of Metro Exodus there was no way to buy keys outside of Epic Store. Not to mention
>G2A
>Kinguin
>CDKeys
Have fun with stolen keys. Where is Greenmangaming, where is Gamersgate, where is Humble Store?

You will have grown out of gaming before fortnight and unreal engine money runs out.

They've been building up that reveune for two decades.

>steam
>devs put their games there because it's a good distribution platform
>egs
>devs put their games their because epic paid exorbitant amounts to their publisher
This isn't fucking complicated you retarded shill

>PAST TENSE
when valve had internal testings they didn't have aim assist for their console version

>you know no PC game has aim assist and fornite is no different?
never implied pc games had aim assist, but the console and phone versions of the game do. but again what you said was never implied so it's no different

They make 5% of all profit any game using the engine makes.
The two most profitable games for epic was Fortnite and PUBG because PUBG uses their engine.

Console games have had aim assist since the 90s, where is any proof that the console versions didnt have it during testing? You seem to think aim assist is an auto lock on when any m+k player will still shit on a console player using it

True, but Fortnite is the main attraction of EGS. If it declines in popularity then there goes most people's reason to care for EGS.

if they did have a lot of money from the engine, why didn't they open digital shop a long time ago?

>oh, "Epic Games Store"
>what's this? $10 off a game that's usually $60? that's amazing.
>the devs get a better cut? that's neat.
>let me just check out this store released in 2018, surely it must have most of if not all of the features every modern store worth its salt has
>no cloud saving? that's a bummer.
>no regional pricing? my buddy in Australia is not going to be happy about that.
>no linux support? my tech-savvy friend will surely be upset.
>no forums? how do they expect me to convey my discontent with a game? oh, maybe there's a review system for that.
>no reviews? this is getting ridiculous.
>not even any achievements? what will be my badge for completing the game on its hardest difficulty?
>overall I must say Mr. Sweeney that I am not impressed, and will be taking my business elsewhere.

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>not even any achievements?
>t. zoomer

Because before that they didn't have the install base of millions of players.

>Epic
>40 percent ownership is Tencent
>Tencent
>publically traded

>Valve
>privately owned
>no Tencent
>just private ownership

I unironically will never put a publically traded company ahead of a privately owned one when looking for a service unless the quality difference is notable. Considering Steam shits on EGS, it's not even a question.

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sometimes even frog posters are allright, but you should kys for posting frogs regarless

NOOOOOOOO these stores dont count! Ignore all the positive user reviews for them, reviews dont mean anything except when I use them as a positive for steam!

OHHH NONONO HOW WILL THE BOOMERS EVER RECOVER BROS

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I guess it's time for gaben to release an actual game and establish his alpha male dominance over the gaming industry.

I know you're reading this you fucking fat ass, but I'm afraid of telling you personally because you're gonna get me fired

>if a public company invests in a private one they become public
holy fucking brainlet. both epic and valve are private companies, or they're both public because both have investors you retard.

>XboxOG
It's a 360. OG Xbox is the Xbox. I was 16 when the 360 came out. I didn't care about achievements then. In fact, I disliked the random fucking popups they caused in my games.

I would say achievements are a millenial thing but there is no novelty or controversy for a zoomer. Achievements are there and always have been for them.

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>Release Half-Life 3
>offer it to Sweeney as an Epic exclusive just to dab on him
>pull out at the last second
>"Available on every online store except Epic Games."

Based, epic defenders are the most retarded pieces of shit I've ever seen

Just look at this idiot:

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I always order my steak medium-rare. Unless, of course, I'm sitting at a table in a steakhouse with a large group of people. In that case it's not so simple. I'm a gentlemen, so I never just go ahead and order first. I'll hold off for somebody else to start, and then I'll wait until it's my turn to order. Chances are, somebody else is going to order their steak medium-rare. I'm telling you, it's the best way to have a steak. But then the waiter will come around to me, “And for you sir? How would you like your steak prepared?” I can't say medium-rare now. I'll look like I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll look like I've never ordered a steak before, and now I'm just copying everybody else.

This is why it's great to order first at a steak place. Everyone else is definitely going to get their steak medium-rare. So when you order first, you look like you're in charge, like everyone else is following your lead. Then the second person also says medium-rare. “Very good, sir.” And maybe he really did want his steak medium-rare. It all depends on how fast he said it. If there was even a second's hesitation, it would be perfectly obvious that he was probably going to go for medium, but he didn't feel like being outdone by the first person. “I'll take mine medium … rare. Medium-rare.” A classic rookie I've-never-eaten-in-a-steakhouse-with-a-large-group-of-people mistake.

And then it goes down the line, medium-rare, medium-rare, medium-rare. But now everybody ordering, the fifth, sixth, seventh, even if they wanted medium, medium-well, it's just not happening. Nobody's going to stick their neck out like that. By the third or fourth person, the waiter is only even asking because he has to, because it's part of his job description. Bosses always gets really pissed when waiters try to save some time, try to cast out a blanket, “medium-rares all around?” question to the table.

That IS the Xbox original, maybe you'd know if you actually ever used one.
Pic related is what 360s achievement screen looked like, just in case your ADHD-raddled brain forgot.

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Every once in a while the waiter will start off with a person who clearly doesn't know how to eat steak and they'll say medium or medium-well. And the next person will order theirs, extra loud, medium-rare, as if to say, please don't confuse me with my idiot friend to my left, I'd like mine medium-rare. Please. And it'll go down the line, medium-rare, medium-rare, and after two or three people, that first guy will realize his mistake, and he'll get really embarrassed, and he'll just shout out to the waiter, who's already passed him, and he'll say, “Excuse me, you know what? I'm going to go for that medium-rare also, thanks.” And the waiter will say, “Very good, sir,” and he'll pretend to cross out something on his pad and write in something else, but it will all be an act, because he's not writing anything at all. It's always medium-rare. The first person always changes to medium-rare after everyone else orders medium-rare. It's a science.

But then it gets to me, maybe I'm like the eighth or ninth person ordering. And I'm no follower, I'm no nameless face in a crowd. So I'll say “rare, please.” And everyone drops their fork and stares. I learned this trick at my friend's wedding in Iowa last summer. The rehearsal dinner was at this steak place, and the specialty was rib-eye. Delish. Of course I was going to order medium-rare, but the first person ordered rare. I was like, what? Rare? Crazy. But then the second person ordered. Rare. Third, fourth, fifth. Rare, rare, rare. There was definitely a pattern here and it became clear to me how I'd have to order my steak.

I really hope that someday I'm out to dinner with a bunch of guys and for some reason it's my turn to order first. And I'm definitely going to order rare. And I know that that second person is just going to have to order rare also. And it'll be like dominoes, everyone falling in line, everyone getting a rare steak. I'm pretty sure that's what happened in Iowa. I think.

>Halo 3
>Xbox OG
X.

>It amuses me when people complain about games being exclusive to a set PC platform store
>idiot laughs about serious matter
no big surprise there.

Medium rare or medium for the most part but I can also eat medium well.

Im the dude that originally snipping tooled those images from cheapcdkeys.com, it was done like a month after the game came out.
You're fucking stupid.
>shady key sites that are routinely under fire for credit card fraud
CJS CD-Keys are as much as a legitimate retailer as GreenManGaming, they were legitimate enough to have Rockstar give them a torrent of GTAV to allow their customers to pre-load the Social Club version before the release.

AllKeyShop.com is the site

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Well done and crispy

>There are people on this site so young that they dont remember the 360's Blade Interface and assume its the original Xbox's interface
I want to jump through your fucking screen and strangle you, holy shit

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those stores don't count because they're market sellers
go ahead, ask deep silver if they're working with g2a or kinguin
ill wait here for your response

grey market*

I think people who care about this store shit are fucking faggots. Literally who cares which store you get your games from I don't want to play a store, I want to play a game.

>They wouldn't remember how people were pissed that half-life 2 required steam outright, or how counter-strike became steam-only.
Why do people insist on making arguments like this? Is Epic buying up exclusives with preorder contracts going to get Half-Life 2 released on GOG? Is anything going to be fixed by it?

You’re supposed to be BETTER than your competitors. Ponting out their shittiness in defense of your own is pathetic.

>hurr they're grey market
See
CJS CD-Keys have been in the business of key reselling longer than you zoomers have been alive, the business of organising deals with publishers to get boxed copies of the game and selling the keys to individuals for competitive prices.

Are you getting paid or are you on the spectrum?

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Ive yet to see a single person with a higher Years Of Service badge give me a single reason why the Epic Store is bad.

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>Tim Sweeney says he's upset with Steam's revenue cut
>allows Microsoft store - a store that takes the same revenue cut as Steam only without the eventual break for games with good sales - to sell one of his prized games
Defend this, Epic shills, defend how transparently Tim actually doesn't give a fuck about the PC community

>defend how transparently Tim actually doesn't give a fuck about the PC community
Tim didnt try and introduce paid mods
Tim didnt gimp force people to register as a "Source Mod" on Steam to get the full SDK
Tim didnt completely destroy the idea of full conversion mods with his piss poor attempt at a mod site named Workshop

there are plenty of posts here saying that. pick them all out and defend why theyre not bad, seeing as youre so knowledgeable with steam.

I couldnt care about the opinions of zoomers screeching about how Epic is "shady" without articulating their """"thoughts"""".

>the business of organising deals with publishers to get boxed copies of the game and selling the keys to individuals for competitive prices.
souce?

The shills are out in force today. Did the Chinabux cheques finally clear or is there a double social credit score event going on atm?

>Tim didnt try and introduce paid mods
>TRY
I guarantee you if Tim tried this shit he wouldn't have backed off like Valve did after backlash
My proof: THE FUCKING EPIC GAMES STORE

>waaaaah I wanna be spoonfed!

You fuckers are going so hard i'm gonna assume epic are offering a free fortnite skin for shitposting.

pointing out whats wrong with steam isnt helping your cause at all. just try and say something that epic did for pc gaming, besides turning people to piracy because of exclusives.

My platform has been around longer than Steam.

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telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/9150405/LloydsTelegraph-awards-reveal-the-best-British-entrepreneurs.html
Again, legitimate enough to get authorisation from Rockstar to distribute a pre-load of GTAV before launch.

Where's your Linux support, Chang?
Me? I'm enjoying all the genius from Proton.

>spoonfed
More like mining for even a molecule of an actual argument.

but there are plenty of well-put thoughts out here tho. you dont have to pick ‘retarded’ ones. just go ahead and pick one and start from there.

>Where's your Linux support
In the trash, like Linux as a whole.
Nope, they're all retarded.

You know what's shady?
Shoving your foot into a market you're underdeveloped in by bribing everyone involved in it to not go near your biggest competitor.
THAT'S shady.

>duhhhh I think it's trash therefore it doesn't matter
yesss
shove that Microsoft dick in your ass
take it from papa Gates while defying the devil Gabe himself
privacy is for cucks, after all

guess ill point out some of them then, then you can tell me why theyre wrong without just saying theyre retarded.
even this one, which is from a frogposter

Tell me how the Epic store is any good for the customer. THE CUSTOMER, not the developers, not the publisher, US, the paying customers. And please, spare me all the parroting you do from your corporate overlord Timmy Tencent for once and actually come up with your own arguments.

i was arguing with the other guy when he said theres no reasonable arguments here about why the epic store is bad. dont lump me with him

It's bad because I say so, now leave.

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Security. In all of these years I haven't had a single account breach or unwanted login attempt on any of my steam accounts. I made an EPIC account for Unreal, and within the week I was hammered with unwanted login attempts; this continued for several years until I closed the account. I know you're probably like, "But your email was probably pwned", except it was a fresh email.

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based

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>mining
I bet you didn't even do that you stupid chink. I've read through this thread there's a lot of legitimate gripes with EG such as:

-Paying for exclusives when your competitors don't.
-Having a shitty distribution platform that's only has a fraction of the functions & features than your competitors while installing Chinese spyware on your system

How much social credit are you getting for shilling EG?

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>bribe
>dishonestly persuade to act in one's favour by a gift of money or other inducement.
>"shady"
>without articulating why
Really solid argument you've got there
>b-b-but microsoft
Enjoy your 20% performance loss.
>Please explain why lower prices are good for the customer
>Please explain why diversifying your digital content library across multiple DRM services is better than relying on one company to exist forever
That braindamaged way of thinking is the reason we had the 2007 Financial Crisis

It amuses me when people don't take into account the advantages steam offers. Steam isn't the 2007 Steam. Steamworks is a rather robust tool that is used in probably a lot of the games you play but you don't ever think about it.

>theres no reasonable arguments here about why the epic store is bad
There are plenty but you choose to ignore them.
So instead, I ask you, how is the Epic store and its exclusivity deals any good for us the customers?

(Had to correct my post since I replied to the wrong one)

>>Please explain why lower prices are good for the customer
The Epic Mega Sale had games removed from it because of the lower price. The truth of the matter is: the publisher decides how low a game drops in discount, the store can only organize the sale and promote it.
And, also, despite the 88/12 cut, Borderlands 3 is still full 60 dollars, and so is Bloodlines II, not exclusive yes, but all the competing games that are on Epic and Steam have the same price.
>>Please explain why diversifying your digital content library across multiple DRM services is better than relying on one company to exist forever
And Epic will? What gives me that guarantee? How about all the security concerns that are routinely raised against Epic?

>just types in the definition of bribery as if that's an argument or in any way disproves my point
>m-m-m-muh performance loss on my potato
And you're calling my arguments bad?

but it is shady at worst, at the very least asshole-y and anti-consumer. everyone with a working brain should know never to piss off consumers, and by sniping most of the exclusives they have right now they buried themselves before they even had a chance to put a foot on the door. you cant deny that its shady, you can keep telling us that its not tho, but maybe because you dont actually buy or play games.

>No argument
>I haven't had a single account breach or unwanted login attempt on any of my steam accounts
No, you dont know you havent had any unwanted login attempts with Steam because authentication emails and the 2FA system only came around in about 2010ish.
>I made an EPIC account for Unreal
>Several Years
>Fresh Email
Id like to see any proof that you didnt use that email for any other service other than Epic because theyve never had a data breach, and its more than likely another service you used has. If you create a brand new burner email right now and sign up for Epic, you will never see a "someone tried to log into your account" email. Why? Because your account isnt in the massive combolist children use to try and crack Fortnite accounts.
>Paying for exclusives when your competitors don't
Why cant i buy Artifact on the EGS store, user? They're providing the funds for development, they receive an exclusive product in return. There is not a single reason in this thread for why thats bad besides "s-s-steam doesnt do it!", Epic hasnt done half the garbage shit Valve has done in their life time does that make them automatically better?
>Having a shitty distribution platform that's only has a fraction of the functions
You mean social functions that only the mentally challenged use? I dont use a launcher to post autistic shit on walls or come up with shitty memes to write in a "review", i use a launcher to buy and launch games and you should too.
>Chinese spyware
Still going on with that shit months after you were proven to be retarded?
>The Epic Mega Sale had games removed from it because of the lower price.
And? The customers that brought the games before they removed got a steal, how was that not good for the customers like you said?
>Security concerns
See above, if you arent retarded and dont use the same email over and over you dont have this issue.

What kind of retarded faggot pays for stolen game keys? Just pirate like a normal person.

idk why they changed it blades was actually good

Keep moving those goalposts user, you're doing great.

It's impossible to argue against shills. But it still irritates me.
Your argument boils down to: "It doesn't matter to me so I don't care". Yeah, great way of thinking, no wonder you'd be unironically shilling for a company like Epic. I hope you're getting well paid for this, cause I cannot imagine a real person being this retarded.

Under rated post.

it doesn't bring enough to the table to warrant having another launcher running

I also don't run origin or uplay for the same reasons

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i dont know why your ignoring one of my posts about how every argument here is retarded, but here it is just in case you want to answer it.

Having DRM launchers is the norm now, it doesn't matter who controls it.
PC gamers are annoyed because

1. They need additional launchers bloating their system to play specific games but the launchers add no benefit. In fact,
2. The features vary between launchers, so you need to be thinking of whether or not you're covered by cloud saves, or if you can play your game via steam link, etc.
3. You need to remember what launcher you own your game on. Did I buy that game on Steam? No... Was it EGS? No... Origin? No... Microsoft store? No... GOG? Ah, there it is...
4. Nobody wants to invest money in digital shit on a platform that isn't proven. EGS could turn around and close tomorrow - what happens to all my digital shit that I spent money on? Steam is massive and reputable. Sure, they could turn around and close tomorrow, but it's far more unlikely.

So yeah, it has nothing to do with fanboyism and everything to do with platform features and risk.

>s-s-shady
>a-a-a-assholly
>a-a-a-anti-consumer
Literally no argument.
What is shady? What is assholly? What is anti-consumer? Think, you mindless fucking drone
>Maybe because you dont actually buy or play games
I buy and play shit that isnt dogshit.
As we had proven in the last steam shill thread, the only games people are complaining about it being "shady" about are Kikestarter scams. When Epic brought the rights to Metro, what happened? Anybody that brought the game on Steam got the game on Steam, they get all future updates at the same time as the Epic version and they get all the DLC on the same day as the Epic version. You were promised the game on steam, you paid for the game on Steam, you got the game on steam.
I couldnt give two shits about what the fuck Ys Net is doing with Shenmue 3 because Shenmue 3 from the beginning was a fucking scam. If you cant see that the "big bad" in the situation is the company that received an extra FOUR POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS in funding yet still couldnt push out a game on the platforms they originally promised and refuse refunds even after being bailed out by Epic, then you're clearly fucking retarded.
All Kikestarter games are scams, they were before Epic and they will be after Epic. Mighty No 9 released a year before Fortnite BR, you gonna blame that on Epic too?
If the extra 500mb of RAM that other launchers take up impacts your PC at all, you dont deserve to be playing on PC.

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Don't forget no bandwidth limit settings.
Unless you live alone someone is going to be bitching at you for hogging the connection, and even if you live alone you can't use your internet for shit while a game is downloading.

valve is the WWE of videogames. literal drones only support them at this point. kid friendly, no desire to innovate, stale, boring.

Epic is the AEW of videogames. independent. willingness to compete and yet still backed by big money

make the move user

yeah because there was no alternative to Steam for a long ass time. Try harder Epicuck.

>I buy and play shit that isnt dogshit.
Then why are you using the Epic store?

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>Why cant i buy Artifact on the EGS store, user?
Because it's a first party game made by Valve?Why would they put it on EG when they have their own platform?
>They're providing the funds for development, they receive an exclusive product in return. There is not a single reason in this thread for why thats bad
It is bad when your platform is just shitty compared to your competitor. Don't pay for exclusives when your distribution platform is garbage.
>You mean social functions that only the mentally challenged use?
Spotted the incel. Go have sex and make friends, user. Then you'll know why those features are nice.
>Still going on with that shit months after you were proven to be retarded?
Calling people racists is not proving people wrong.

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Yes, if the shit you're complaining about has nothing to do with video games then nobody who wants to play video games shouldnt care.
I dont give a single fuck that you cant write shit like this on your Epic Store profile.

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Steam having had implicit exclusivity for so many years doesn't make explicit exclusivity OK.

Normalfags will buy Borderlands 3 on console.

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But the owner of that profile cares. His priorities are not the same as yours, but that doesn't make them any less valid.
Shills always go the path of "steam bad features bad epic good" because there is no argument in favor of Epic.

do people really go to other players’ profiles just to get offended at stuff like this? why? so you can finally point at something thats bad with steam? you dont have to deal with that at all, as its conveniently hidden from you. unless you actively go around digging this stuff up, it shouldnt actively offend you.

>No, you dont know you havent had any unwanted login attempts with Steam because authentication emails and the 2FA system only came around in about 2010ish.
Actually, yes I do. I've been using the same password of 15 fucking years and I haven't had my account stolen. I've also used the same email address for steam and that hasn't been pwned yet either.
>Id like to see any proof that you didnt use that email for any other service other than Epic because theyve never had a data breach, and its more than likely another service you used has. If you create a brand new burner email right now and sign up for Epic, you will never see a "someone tried to log into your account" email. Why? Because your account isnt in the massive combolist children use to try and crack Fortnite accounts.
I made the EPIC account and email for it in 2016, well before Fortnite was even popular (or even released). I closed both in 2018. If I could offer proof, I would, but then you probably wouldn't accept that either, or drum up some other excuse. I always make separate emails for different game 'services', and it helps me know which leaks what. uPlay, Origin, Battlenet, and GoG have not leaked my data. The only services that have leaked my data were shit like Nexon, aeria, ijji, etc.

because you're a corporate cuck Maddox now GTFO back to plebbit

>while the peasants fight, the king laughs
You fuckers can laugh and shout all you want about which store is a real monopoly but if you want to not be a fucking hypocrite, fight a REAL monopoly and install a linux distro.
>th-th-they're hard to use
no they're fucking not, everyone in tech uses them, they're easy as shit to learn and take up about an hour of your time
>m-m-m-m-muh performance
if you don't have a potato it doesn't fucking matter

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Because the games on there are objectively better than the $1 unity asset flip early access kickstarted garbage that makes up almost 90% of Steam Games at this point.
>Why would they put it on EG when they have their own platform?
Why would Epic put any of the games they paid for on Steam?
>It is bad when your platform is just shitty compared to your competitor.
>distribution platform is garbage.
You can buy games, download games and play games just as well as Steam can. Anything else not relating to actually playing games is fucking irrelevant.
>Calling people racists is not proving people wrong.
No, actually going through and comprehending what process manager spat out in your "epic sik totally #owned" .webm and """""infographic"""" does. I could fire up Wireshark right now with EGS and you faggots would shit your pants and call it spyware without understanding a fucking word. Anybody who believed that shit is technologically retarded.
>But the owner of that profile cares
Who cares what they think? They're a tranny. That shit has absolutely nothing to do with playing video games, making it bloat.
>I've been using the same password of 15 fucking years
Thanks for proving you're retarded
>I made the EPIC account and email for it in 2016
Irrelevant, im talking about a terabyte long list of email:password combinations from a hundred different actual data breaches
>If i could offer proof, i would
You could show the emails that this account has received showing that it was used for only Epic, but giving you this idea at all means you're just going to delete any email that isnt from Epic.

>if you don't have a potato it doesn't fucking matter
Dude i love paying $2000 for a RTX 2080Ti only to have 20% of that performance sapped because i choose to game on an OS designed for server operation.
Fuck you're stupid.

>being this retarded
I can tell you have never fucking used a Linux distro because you are parroting a number that was created in the mid 2010s, fuck yourself

Sorry, 19% now because of Proton :)

>I don't care about it so it doesn't matter
>What you say doesn't matter to me
>Asset Flips
>What happened to you only happened to you so I don't care.
>I am better than you so what I say matters more.
Okay.

Dude i really love Walking Zombie 2
store.steampowered.com/app/965200/Walking_Zombie_2/

Still not a factual argument you colossal faggoid
youtube.com/watch?v=NOtlyUcyIwM

does dark souls 3 still have an active pvp community? is it worth getting on sale? its like 75% off right now

>Why would Epic put any of the games they paid for on Steam?
I'm not arguing that, they're free to do that. The issue arises with 3rd party games you willfully retarded mofo.
>You can buy games, download games and play games just as well as Steam can. Anything else not relating to actually playing games is fucking irrelevant.
The only other platform is decent is GOG. Origin, Rockstar and Ubisoft have been piles of crap because their security sucks, and trying to recover an account I have with them thats been hacked when I want to play their game is bullshit. I never had that issue with Steam.
>I could fire up Wireshark right now with EGS and you faggots would shit your pants and call it spyware without understanding a fucking word.
The do it, faggot. I doubt you will though because so far reading your shit you just like to gaslight people like a good shill would.

>10-30FPS losses because you decide to play on shit not designed for gaming
Holy shit you really showed me

I wonder when fortnite cum guzzlers will realize that people don't hate Epic itself, they hate what Epic is trying to do with PC gaming. They hate that Epic's launcher is worse than fucking Origin and Uplay, but pretends like it should be the number one hot shit.

>didn't watch the video
>"play on shit not designed for gaming"
You know literally nothing about Linux if you believe it was designed for anything specific
You will not get anymore (you)s from me until you present a factual argument

store.steampowered.com/app/582010/MONSTER_HUNTER_WORLD/
store.steampowered.com/app/601150/Devil_May_Cry_5/
store.steampowered.com/app/883710/RESIDENT_EVIL_2__BIOHAZARD_RE2/
store.steampowered.com/app/976310/Mortal_Kombat11/
store.steampowered.com/app/502500/ACE_COMBAT_7_SKIES_UNKNOWN/
store.steampowered.com/app/814380/Sekiro_Shadows_Die_Twice/

And all but 1 of these came out this year. On the other hand, I have NEVER heard of that Walking Zombie 2 crap you dug out of the shit pile. You have to go out of your way to find that crap on Steam, all the time the front page and the news feed is filled with the big games the Publishers pay money to have exposure.

Holy fucking braindamaged newfag.

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>Thanks for proving you're retarded
Nice. Go ahead and resort to namecalling. Doesn't change the fact I haven't had an account breach on steam, and your argument on it nullified.
>You could show the emails that this account has received showing that it was used for only Epic, but giving you this idea at all means you're just going to delete any email that isn't from Epic.
No, I can't; I already stated that email account was closed. Even if I could, I would've needed to take pictures during that first week, of unwanted login attempts, to have actual credibility. If only I could see into the future having a conversation with an user pretending to defend epic just because he likes to argue for the sake of arguing.

its pretty new as well, the steam page says that “steam is learning about this game.”

>The issue arises with 3rd party games
How? In relation to Shenmue 3, this is very clearly a bail out. Ys Net were not FORCED to take the deal, they already knew how many dumb fucks were already waiting for Steam Keys, they had an extra FOUR POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS above their original TWO MILLION DOLLAR budget to create the game and release it on the platforms they originally promised. Epic is paying for the continued development of the game because Ys Net blew all of their fucking money, which is why they're refusing refunds.
>Origin, Rockstar and Ubisoft have been piles of crap because their security sucks
>I have with them thats been hacked
This is from the same idiot that proclaimed "I've been using the same password of 15 fucking years".
Their security doesnt suck, you're fucking retarded. All of these services have 2FA.
Watch the Mad Max section, you fucking chimp
>Listing 6 games
>Out of the millions on steam
Statistically, there are 100x more Walking Zombie 2's then there are legitimate games on Steam. This has been an issue for fucking years, in 2015 there were more games released on Steam than every other year combined and it keeps fucking growing.
Here's a high quality game from the top of Steams "New and Trending" list
store.steampowered.com/app/685340/Delivery_from_the_Pain/
>Doesn't change the fact I haven't had an account breach on steam, and your argument on it nullified.
Ive never had an account breach on any of the services ive used because im not clearly fucking braindamaged, guess your argument of "hurr security sucks" is null and void.

Pointing out bad games released on Steam isn't an argument, you don't have to buy them. Remember virtual novels?
>inb4 they're trash
Doesn't matter, people like them, but they didn't always, they were fucking cancers on the store before they finally got a few out that people actually liked, and now its regarded as a legitimate genre by those fans. That wouldn't exist if Steam had decided to go full authoritarian on what games are objectively good or bad and do or do not belong.

And again with the shovelware argument. This would amuse me if not because people actually believe in this shit.
You would have to be mentally challenged (which I suspect you are, to be fair) for you to think that something like Delivery from the Pain is something that would deserve your time and attention.
>I play shit that isn't dogshit
You said that, and if you can make that assessment so easily, then you'd know how to make an informed purchase.
Not to mention, reviews (which Epic doesn't have), curators (which Epic doesn't have) and community forums (which Epic doesn't have) are all you need to use to learn if a game is good or not.
But please, continue to conveniently ignore everything that doesn't support your narrative and shill Epic blindly, I am sure you'll get that fortnite skin eventually.

that game you pointed out actually had some people waiting for it to come out with localizations. you cant just dismiss games as shit just because you dont like them, and by essence theyre not bloating up the store because there are actual people that play them. as much as you try to use this “theres more bad games than good ones” you have to be an actual retard to think that nobody plays titles you think are bad. its not one of those asset flips either, so i dont know why you felt the need to point out that its trending. its relatively new, and a lot of people are excited for the localization, thats why its popular right now.

>How? In relation to Shenmue 3, this is very clearly a bail out.
Nice moving the goalpost there, faggot.
>Their security doesnt suck, you're fucking retarded. All of these services have 2FA.
Motherfucker I know for a fact the hackers did not get access to my email because they would need access to my cell phone to login from a geographically different location, and I don't put my login info out there on the web, so that just leaves their shitty backend security.

The chink shill is really cranking up his tiny brain coming up with more bullshit and ad hominens to reply to all these people.

Epic chad is killing steam faggots left and right keep up the good work.

Wrong, retard.

I'll save him the work
>hurr durr shovelware
>duuuhhhhh your password is bad
>uhhhhhhhhhhh you drink gabe cum lol
done

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>b-b-but u dont HAVE to buy them
No, i just have to see that shit spammed constantly. Maybe i want to check out the Indie game tag, maybe i want to see what some up and coming talent came up with and turned into a fun game, maybe i want to see what the next Hotline Miami is or the next Crypt Of The NecroDancer?
Instead of getting 6,000 results, i get 600,000 with quality titles such as WoW Hentai 2!, Hentai Sudoku, Vegas Slot, Hentai energy II and Bigfoot: The Secret Life. That shit seeps onto the front page, and it seeps into any category you look for.
>People really care about low effort mobile port garbage
In no way is that a reasonable argument for why that shit should be on Steam.
>Moving the goalposts
Shenmue 3 is a Epic funded game
Artifact is a Valve funded game
There is literally no difference, you dumb faggot.
>Motherfucker I know for a fact the hackers did not get access to my email
No, you're just retarded enough to use the same email on multiple different services which means if one has a breach multiple accounts are compromised because you're so legitimately retarded you use the same password on everything.

>1 social credit has been deposited into your account.

>defending shovelware
>defending the technologically retarded
>defending shills

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classic steam faggot response
>muh shill1111!!
I wish Tim would pay me for defending his rightful warpath against gaben the fat fuck who almost destroyed pc gaming with steam.

No Shenmue 3 was a crowdfunded game until you decided to move the goal post with "muh bailout"
> because you're so legitimately retarded you use the same password on everything.
I know you're projecting but that's not the case. But lets just ignore all those security breaches EA and Ubisoft had.

>maybe i want to see what the next Hotline Miami is or the next Crypt Of The NecroDancer
Translation - bad argument to real words:
>"I only want to be spoonfed the biggest indie games that are already critically-acclaimed and loved and not put in the effort to see if I'll enjoy any of the smaller ones because I think they're all shovelware"

>Shenmue 3 is a Epic funded game
Woah, chang hold up. I get your MO already: "just ignore what people say pretend I'm right"
But that is a demonstration of a severe lack of self awareness. Goddamn.
Shenmue was FOUNDED BY BACKERS ON KICKSTARTER, and Epic just swoop by and paid a shitton of money to have it exclusively on their store. The game is pretty much finished by now, what the fuck did Epic founded exactly? Just the bribe, that's what they paid.

>no desire to innovate
But let's be real, what's there to innovate at this point?

>I wish Tim would pay me for defending his rightful warpath against gaben the fat fuck who almost destroyed pc gaming with steam.
And we're the delusional shills.

classic bug people response
>nuh-uh! Sweeny good, fat man bad!
I can't wait for all the chinks to starve in the trade war and chimpout on their own government.

>shovelware
Not every small indie game you don't like is shovelware.
>technologically retarded
Not an argument because you have no evidence that that user is as technologically retarded as you think.
>shills
Blindly defending Epic and excusing all their major issues by pointing out menial problems with Steam is shilling, you faggot.

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Well done, anything less means you are a fucking savage and animal, medium well people are acceptable tho, at least they can read

Fuck off shit sniffer

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medium preferred but I will also accept medium well

>no desire to innovate
They just made Linux gaming 100x more easier recently, and now they're working to integrate VR in a much easier way
>inb4 that doesn't count because I say so

Valve is not forcing anyone to make their games Steam exclusive that's the big difference. Developers are only putting games on their by their own choice. Also Epic is forcing exclusivity on a store that is just objectively worse with not even half the features Steam has.

>They wouldn't remember how people were pissed that half-life 2 required steam outright, or how counter-strike became steam-only.
I remember. I still have my box copy of HL:2 from 2004. I had only gotten my first good PC earlier that year so I was still really new to PC gaming. Didn't think much of it actually at the time although I thought it was kind of weird. I continued buying boxed copied whenever possible though and didn't really start buying all my games on steam until around 2011-2012ish.

I remember when every other publisher and developer were abandoning PC for consoles and Gaben was the only one who stayed the course, built the best-functioning digital distro platform which he opened access to more and more--too much, really, allowing a glut of lazily-made indie trash because indies cried about how Steam was too hard to get on to--and now that consoles are all dying overpriced shit made to play movies instead of vidya gaems every sleazy console-first shitter (like Tim Sweeney) are crawling back and trying to bring their console wars with them. Although Tim gets bonus points for trying to sell the vidya gaemz industry out to chinks because he wasn't content with betraying PC he also has to betray his country for his Ten cents of silver.

its allkeyshop

>willingness to compete
Then why don't they offer customers a choice on where they buy their games? Is it because, perhaps, they don't want a market share and instead a monopoly because their store is featureless and inept?

>people care about low effort mobile garbage that should not be allowed on steam
because you dont enjoy it? like i said already, it doesnt look offensively bad to the point of being an asset flip, and theres a market for it on the pc, so whats the problem? again, if you dont like a game on that storefront you shouldnt really go actively searching for it. with steam having so many games you have to actually dig with a lot of effort to get to the point where you find offensively bad titles, and the last one you pointed out so far even has an actually realized playerbase going for it.

>No Shenmue 3 was a crowdfunded game
Exactly, they got SIX MILLION DOLLARS in total when their original budget was TWO MILLION DOLLARS. If they had an extra FOUR POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS to create the game, why did they take the money from Epic?
>but that's not the case
Except you literally admitted to it.
>b-b-but EA/Ubisoft
Nobody is talking about EA/Ubisoft
What a shitty translation, are you even literate?
Considering you're fucking slow, ill break it down for you.
If a game is a blatant asset flip, mobile trash,a "hentai" puzzle game, an RPG Maker "game" or something that looks like it was shit out in a day it doesnt belong on Steam.
>Shenmue was FOUNDED BY BACKERS ON KICKSTARTER, and Epic just swoop by and paid a shitton of money to have it exclusively on their store
Why did they take the money then? Do you think Tim held a gun to Ys Net's head and forced them to take a huge stack of money to put the game on Epic?
They, again, got an extra FOUR POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS on top of their TWO MILLION DOLLAR original budget. If they now had THREE TIMES what they originally wanted, why did they need to take the deal from Epic?
>hurr not all indie
Shovelware is Shovelwhere, you fucking moron.
>no evidence
Besides an admission of guilt?
>Blindly defending Epic and excusing all their major issues
These "issues" you cry about are literally nothing, im sorry you cant put your fake made up gender on your Epic Store profile but if you werent severely autistic you wouldnt have any reason to. Not a fault with the service, its a fault with your fucking brain.

The main problem isn't that Epix sucks up all the games to be exclusives.

It's that it's storefront is a piece of shit and most barebones, basic features that even a college student could fix are straight up missing or put on "in the next 8 or so months" AND then they go "oh you can't but too many games too fast else we ban you for fraud" yet there's no fucking shopping cart to avoid that and still be able to buy multiple games? Fucking please. If you want to take Steam down, do it with at least some effort instead of trying to brute-force it, while pissing off your potential customers.

well done because there's a reason why I cook the meat and i'm not an ooga booga savage nigger

>These "issues" you cry about are literally nothing
WHERE'S YOUR FUCKING CLOUD SAVING, CHANG? WHERE'S YOUR SHOPPING CART? OH, WHAT'S THAT? FOUR MONTHS AWAY? THAT REALLY IS EPIC, MY GUY. LET'S JUST HOPE IT DOESN'T GET RESCHEDULED AGAIN.

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>if you dont like a game on that storefront you shouldnt really go actively searching for it
If you look up "Indie", its all asset flip trash
If you look up "Zombie", its all asset flip trash
If you look up "Action" its all asset flip trash
What if i want another quality interdependently made game like Binding Of Issac or Lethal League?
What if i want a PvE game i can play with friends like Left 4 Dead?
What if i want basically any game since they're all listed under Action anyway?

Medium rare. Fuck well done that shit is dry as fuck.

>Cloud Saves
On my regularly scheduled off-site full system backups
>Where's your shopping cart?
I dont mindlessly buy $1 "indie" unity asset flip garbage 100 games at a time, so who cares? If im purchasing a game, im purchasing a game im going to play and not have it sit for months.

If you werent so severly retarded, you'd have less problems in life.

>What if i want another quality interdependently made game like Binding Of Issac or Lethal League?
Literally what the fuck does that even mean
>What if i want a PvE game i can play with friends like Left 4 Dead?
Deep Rock Galactic.
>What if i want basically any game since they're all listed under Action anyway?
This is an issue with gaming, not just any store, gaming genres are too much of a fucking umbrella term.

Lemme ask you, and give me a real answer, why get Epic's money when they can simply put a game on both platforms and get all sales from each one? If Epic's Store is superior, then they get the majority sales form it and still enjoy whatever they get from Steam.

>Literally what the fuck does that even mean
It means a game with new concepts that were actually thought out and developed over time and not rushed out in three days like 90% of the trash on Steam
>Deep Rock Galactic
What if ive already played that and want something new and have to go searching through Steam for one? Im sure as fuck not going to find anything good.

>The shopping cart is not an issue because I say so despite the fact that the biggest sale the store I'm defending had was forced to fraud-protect accounts because they couldn't buy games in bulk like you're supposed to do on a sale.
This "it's not a problem because I say so" argument has to stop soon, Chang.

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>on my regularly scheduled off-site full system backups
Sure, and i bet you're also behind seven proxies.

Nice bait, but steam never paid for exclusivity.

>why did they take the money from Epic?
Then why did ES buy exclusivity for Metro? They were not hurting for money that's for sure.
>Except you literally admitted to it.
>>Assuming I use the same password between multiple accounts.
user, I know you're retarded but I don't do retarded things like you do.
>Nobody is talking about EA/Ubisoft
You retarded motherfucker, you were saying you can buy games from other platforms and I gave you a reason why they sucked. I know it's hard for you to shill this much against many people but do try to be coherent or don't try at all.

>What if ive already played that and want something new and have to go searching through Steam for one? Im sure as fuck not going to find anything good.
You can check the concurrent player numbers and see which games have active communities, like you can on Ep... oh wait, no, you can't.

now youre just flat out arguing in bad faith. you can bend over backwards finding a myriad of ways to make trash games pop up on the search on steam, simply because by your own admission theres too many games on the platform. let me try to talk to you in a language that you can understand, since you like arguing this way so much: if you like these types of games so much why not just google what you want before going to steam? theres a built-in browser in there, too.

Medium well or well done because I'm not American. I honestly don't understand the obsession Yanks have with eating raw meat.

>I never heard of GOG
Neck yourself, user.

Your entire post is one giant logic fallacy that retroactively accuses Steam of being guilty of exclusivity deals by selling games because there were very few other reliable Digital Rights Management platforms. Simply BEING does not make them guilty of what you are accusing them of. Now fuck off.

Because then it really isn't competition you alcohol addled dipshit.

How many fucking Left 4 Dead-esque games do you expect there to be?
Let's list the ones that are still relevant:
Left 4 Dead (obviously)
Deep Rock Galactic
Vermintide
GTFO might be relevant on-release who knows
...That's literally it, that's all I can think of

world war z, but thats on the egs for pc.

fucking pussies with their tasteless overcooked deadshit. gimme the blood. never heard of "blue rare," though. always been a medium rare girl.

Anywhere from rare - medium well, i'll eat blue or well but don't enjoy it as much

Medium rare is the only correct answer. Not too tough, not too chewy, and if prepared correctly won't give you a fucking ulcer like blue or rare.

Payday 2 is another one but that's a pretty loose fit.

>why get Epic's money when they can simply put a game on both platforms and get all sales from each one?
Im not a developer/publisher, so how would i ask that? Im asking the same thing to this idiot Why did Ys Net take Epic's money if they already had the numbers of people expecting Steam keys, already had an extra four point three million dollars in funding above their original 2 million dollar budget and according to that idiot had already completed most of the game?
>buy games in bulk like you're supposed to do on a sale.
This retarded mentality is the reason why you've wasted hundreds of dollars on games you'll never play just because "HURR DEYRE SO CHEEP"
Its mindless consumer bullshit, and you're actually thinking its a positive. Fuck you're stupid.
A good VPN is all you need.
>Then why did ES buy exclusivity for Metro?
Why did Deep Silver take the money? They didnt have to, nobody forced them to.
>user, I know you're retarded but I don't do retarded things like you do.
See >Actually, yes I do. I've been using the same password of 15 fucking years
How are you so retarded that you've already forgotten?
>I gave you a reason why they sucked
You gave me a reason why two sucked, not all of them. If you want to bring forward an actual data breach for the rest of them, feel free.
>You can check the concurrent player numbers and see which games have active communities
That has literally nothing to do with browsing the Store, you dumb faggot
>you can bend over backwards finding a myriad of ways to make trash games pop up on the search on steam
Except im not doing that, which is why i brought up an example which was ON THE VERY TOP of Steams "New and Popular" list.

The fact that you can only list four means you're blind to the issue
If i look up the tags "Zombie" and "Multiplayer" on Steam, i get
Wasteland Survival
Blockade Classic
Zumbi Blocks
Zombiotik
The fact that two of them are fucking Minecraft clones should paint a picture.
Also this, which is somehow "Overwhelmingly Positive"
store.steampowered.com/app/915460/ULTIMATE_HARDBASS_DEFENCE/

Steam was chosen by developers
Steam never told them "you can't publish your game on another service"

When will that ever get into you retarded fucknugget faggots heads?

I don't buy games in bulk, but I know people do, and they do it because that's what sales do to people on a psychological level, they're there to create a sense of urgency. Yet again you're ignoring the argument because "duhhh I don't use it therefore it's not relevant because I say so".

>minecraft clones
Castle Miner Z is actually pretty fun for a drunken spree with your friends, it's a bit more than just a "clone"
Although I guess I'm just a mega retard and everything you don't like is bad and therefore not relevant and detrimental to a store, huh?

Never because it's consoletards justifying shit practices.

>Steam was chosen by developers
Steam was chosen by being the only service of its kind
>Steam never told them "you can't publish your game on another service"
Why cant i buy Artifact on uPlay, then?
>and they do it because that's what sales do to people on a psychological level, they're there to create a sense of urgency.
So you're saying that Steam is manipulating its users and Epic isnt allowing that, yet somehow Steam is the good guy in this situation and Epic is the bad guy?
Really good logic you've got there.

>Im not a developer/publisher, so how would i ask that?
But you know the answer. I know you're already pretending to be retarded, but I have to wonder if you actually are.
Money, motherfucker, they did it for the money. Deep Silver did it for the money. They don't give a shit, they're just in for the money. And the same with Epic. They don't care about the consumer, the player, they don't give a shit.
And why, then, should I give a shit? They don't offer me anything their competitors don't already have, other than their poached exclusives. I can wait for those to come over to Steam (all two of them that I give a shit about), Epic doesn't give me anything I want, it's a shit store with a shit service that's only an inconvenience.

youre skirting on what i said with regards to that example once again. youre dismissing the game entirely on the merit that its “not good enough for you, therefore its not good enough for steam.” again, its at the top due to localizations coming out for that early access title, which lead to renewed interest in the game. just because you have no interest in playing it or the fact that its a chinese mobile fame receiving a pc port on steam doesnt make it a “shovelware” title. im glad you arent making that decision on what shovelware titles are, because clearly you dont know how to pick them.

No, Steam is allowing users to spend money however they want, while Epic is shoving a pacifier in their mouth and saying "no more for you, who cares if you willingly want more."

>Why cant i buy Artifact on uPlay, then?
Because it's a game made by Valve?
Why can't I buy FIFA on Steam?
Or Overwatch on Epic?
See the trend here?

I have another question, and give me a real answer again, why should I choose Epic over Steam? What does Epic have that Steam doesn't that isn't paid-for timed exclusives?

>They did it for the money
>Deep Silver did it for the money
>They're just in it for the money
>They don't care about the consumer, the player, they don't give a shit.
Then why are you getting upset over this? If every single game that went to the EGS did it solely because the developers and publishers couldnt give a fuck about the players or the game itself and only cared about the money, why are you so asshurt that you cant purchase these blatant cash grabs on Steam?
>Steam is allowing users to spend money however they want
By manipulating the psychology behind a sale?

You're acting like Steam invented sales, sales have been around for as long as currency.

Borderlands 3, Shenmue 3 and Phoenix Point are all games paid for by Epic, which is why you cant buy them on Steam. If Valve can keep Artifact off other platforms, why is it bad when Epic does it?

this is all he has to argue btw. that “because i said so” your game is now shovelware-tier that has no place on steam.

>Then why are you getting upset over this? If every single game that went to the EGS did it solely because the developers and publishers couldnt give a fuck about the players or the game itself and only cared about the money, why are you so asshurt that you cant purchase these blatant cash grabs on Steam?
Thanks friend, I will screen cap your post and show it when people ask me if they should buy Epic Store exclusives.

Medium rare and medium are the best overall for most steaks. Blue is like bubble gum consistency, and rare is only good with certain cuts like filet or sirloin, if it's cooked right that shit will just melt in your mouth.

>Borderlands 3, Shenmue 3 and Phoenix Point are all games paid for by Epic
All those games were already made by the time Epic came in. They paid for EXCLUSIVE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS. In case you don't know, distribution rights are a thing. And it's the PUBLISHER who gets paid for that.

I tried all of these, and rare tastes the best imo.

You're going to screencap the breakdown of why your "its just money" argument is fucking retarded? Sure.
>Shenmue 3 was already made by the time Epic came in
?

Also, Ys Net is both the publisher and developer of Shenmue 3.

It's yours, actually.

Shenmue is releasing in September this year. That's three months from now, you think there's a lot of development left at this point?

Shenmue 3 was fully-funded and began development in 2015. Epic bough it in 2019 three months before its date of release. It does not take a genius to figure out that Epic had no hand in it.

You think these deals are made in a weekend?

God I fucking miss blades.
>ywn start Hexic HD throud blades arcade UI ever again
What's the fucking point, bros?

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seeing as how their have been a few cases of last minute announcements stating they will be exclusive to the epic store then yes

Let's assume that this deal took a lot of time then, Epic first became a store for third-party distribution in 2018, that still leaves 4 years of Epic not having an involvement in Shen3.

With Epic's money, yes. I mean it. It took a week from GDC (Epic said they would not do any more exclusives) to PAX East (Borderlands 3 announcement) for Epic to get Borderlands 3.

That gives them almost two years to pay for the development of Shenmue 3, a game from kikestarter a site notorious for multimillion dollar projects going over budget even when they were given an excess budget.

I don't even know what this is, i just cook meat till it's cooked.

>last minute announcements
Just because they didnt tell you as soon as it happened, doesnt mean these are "last minute announcements". No buisness plan goes into effect in a weekend, you dont just purchase massive operations and spend millions of dollars in 72 hours, especially when you have a parent company and a board of directors.

>uhhhh shit these guys proved my argument wrong hmmm oh I know I'll just call kickstarter bad and therefore call the project bad by association without any evidence
fuuuuuuuuck bros what are we gonna dooooo

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Feel free to show the last kikestarter that refused refunds and was NOT a shitshow of an operation.

I've been playing ripped games since the DOS era. Fuck steam/epic/uplay etc. fanboys and fuck your gay thread.
Also, you're a gay nigger.
Peace out.

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i cant tell if this is legit or not anymore. you think that all this time, epic had a hand in making shemue 3, before egs even came out, and with the promised backer rewards for steam keys on pc? why not just fucking announce your involvement already if youre in it for 2 years now, unless of course you werent and was just trying to snipe another exclusive for your shitty storefront.

Metro was selling preorders on Steam when it was taken out of it two weeks before release. If that's not last minute, I don't know what your definition of it is. And no, nigger, it's not 1 minute on the clock before release, it's a figure of speech that means in the least possible time before something happens.
A single or two weeks time is last minute for this type of business deals.

Funny how it took people 4 years to request refunds.
Real funny how it took Epic's involvement for that to happen.

I don't care. I eat any steak.

If they were so clearly going to go through with this deal so long ago then why does this still exist
store.steampowered.com/app/878670/Shenmue_III/

Ethics.

This

Eat my steak then, pretty boy.

Yes, people are retarded what a shocker.
If the deal Epic gave them said "Epic Exclusive", why didnt they turn down the deal?
They had the numbers of people waiting for the Steam keys they were promised, why would they take that deal?
How is it Epics fault that Ys Net took the deal?
>"Coming Soon"
Its not hard to read, try it sometime.

>Mostly negative
How is this even possible? It's fucking Monopoly.

>and so, another 20 years passes, and the year is..
It amuses me when people complain about games being exclusive to certain types of DNA, when that's exactly what DNA was made for and has been that way since its inception. I think it's mostly that unless you're in at least your mid-40s or older, you don't remember a time before DNA was "the place" you bought games. They wouldn't remember how people were pissed that half-life remaster required DNA augmentation outright, or how counter-counter-strike became extended reality-only.

I feel like it really demonstrates how DNA-free purists are almost more often Calamity fanboys, and how much more fervent they are than other purists. Granted, my synapse relocation size is also this place, which once had people unironically suggest that DNA should add "donate" channels, so perhaps it's just a bad synapse group, but I would also not be surprised if a lot of people on this projection now are of the exact age group I identified, the one which cannot remember a time before calamity and DNA.

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You always deflect criticism towards Epic with "but why?" arguments
>Why do you care?
>How is that bad?
>Why did they take the money?

Why did Epic offer the money in the first place? Why do they need to have exclusives? How is that good for me when I have to pay the same?

Except it's never coming soon, because now Shen3 is an Epic exclusive. Shit, it looks like you're a fan of reading, try it yourself, because the page still says "November 19th", even though that clearly can't be the case anymore.

It shocks me that this board is so loyal to Gabe Jew-well. Valve haven't made anything worth buying in a decade, and people still lap their shit up. Pretty sad desu

>Achievements
>On the original Xbox
Zoomer-kun, I...

You know aside from the fact EPG has less features than stream I think the big issue people have is the fact they pay for exclusives while telling consumers it's for their benefit.

I've yet to see consumers benefit from anything. The games are still $59.99+ even though the publisher/Dev doesn't have to pay as much to be on the store and makes more money. They keep harping about consumer this and that but nothing is there.

It shocks me that this board shills Tim Swindle. Epic haven't made anything worth buying in over a decade, and people still lap their shit up. Pretty sad desu

If I want Medium I always have to order Medium-Rare. Most steak shops overcook because roughly half of customers demand burnt steak.

isthereanydeal.com
Price comparison tool to see what store has the best price for games. The key resellers it tracks are legitimate, like Humble, Green Man, or Fanatical. They don't track shady resellers like G2A or Kinguin.

they are anti-capitalists by:
trying to monopolize the market by giving more money to the sellers, but not buyers (so, an inversion of monopoly, where the suppliers would rather sell to you becuase you paid them a bigger margin but gave your buyers the same prices as the normal market ones)
not allowing for any criticism towards the games being released (no back and forth with devs)
not giving a proper support where it is due, and literally banning people for "inquiring" too much into getting help.
in short: people hate ES, because they're a bunch of fucking communists.

Valve was pretty shitty when launched, but it got better. Epic is as bad as original Valve and risks changing Valve for the worse too.
Opposal to Epic doesn't mean Steam loyalty. I totally okay with other distribution platforms as long as they don't put publishers over consumers.

>Why did Epic offer the money in the first place?
Why not? They're supporting developers and gaining quality games for their service while Steam gets swamped with shovelware.
>Why do they need to have exclusives?
Why does Steam?
Every other Epic exclusive has been a 1 year, it might be different but i dont care to look into it because i dont play Kikestarter garbage.
The release date is November 19th because that is the official release date of the game.
Ultimate Doom is listed on Steam as releasing on the 30th of April, 1995 despite Steam not existing then and Doom not being released on Steam until a while after launch.

A lot of people were happy about EGS to compete with Steam, but they did fucking nothing with the store except buying timed exclusivity shit with barebones features. Steam has revived the PC market while almost every publisher has gone in favor for consoles. They have made it lucrative for indie developers to release their games on it and many of their successes are thanks to Steam.

Epic has shown no proof that they'll improve the PC platform, they just snagged exclusives without improving their fucking store. Everyone complains about Valve time but at least Valve does some good shit or experiment every once in a while like proton and making new hardware.

you must be 14 and bad at making up stories.
no one bought games from steam lmao it took 10 years before you could find a game that sold over 100k copies. it was all piracy on the PC, so no, steam didn't have any sort of monopoly or exclusivity to games unless they Valve developed them. and anyway, no one was even doing a digital store so there's nothing to compare it to. without steam, you wouldn't even have EGS trying to siphon off their success. GOG never went to war with steam and they're still somewhat viable. EGS will fail and it has everything to do with their 3rd party exclusive bullshit. people won't forget and in business, reputation is everything.

>Steam has revived the PC market
By consolising it?

This. Valve did help incentive games to also release on PC.

I've been complaining about PC games being exclusive to Steam ever since that first occured.

Or, more accurately, I've just avoided purchasing them.

How the fuck did Valve consoling it?

You'll have to remind me, who came up with Early Access?
I dont think it was Epic, who could it have been?
It might have been Kikestarter, but why would Valve implement something so objectively bad for gaming into Steam?

All of them will be on Steam after a year.

In this case, I would ironically ask for well done.

see
also
Paid Mods
Gimping Mod Support for Workshop Supported Games
Killing custom content in their own game (Paid Sprays, Paid Skins, No Custom Models)

Steam has never signed agreements with developers for exclusive sales rights.
If you sell on steam, they don't stop you from selling on gog, or epic, or whatever outlet you choose.

If a game is sold only on steam, it's because the publisher or developer decided to only sell it on steam.

>still on the "Early Acess bad" phase
Deep Rock Galactic
Risk of Rain 2
Slay the Spire
Early access has existed long before Steam coined it, except it was called "updating the game". Minecraft was a fucking early access game. Every game that gets slowly updated into a full-form game before a solid "1.0" tag is slapped on it has been an early access game. Valve just had the decency to make games identify themselves as early access.

>he's so fucking brainwashed he actually thinks selling an unfinished game is good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

All of the games I mentioned are still good games whether you like it or not. Hell, despite being early access, Risk of Rain 2 literally had non-stop threads on Yea Forums for WEEKS after its release, it got to the point where mods were deleting them for spam.

>threads for a game were deleted as spam
>this is somehow a good thing
How mentally fucked are you?

So you are pro corporation? Okay.
>inb4 so are you
Steam has always been convenient to me and their features are pro consumer. Epic has none of the features and they take games away from the service I prefer. In the mean time, their revenue split favors developers and publishers while not giving me any discounts on the regular prices.
>inb4 mega sale
Steam have their sales as well, and outside Epic's sale period the games that are shared have the same price and other games like Borderlands 3 are full 60 dollars

Now we move the discussion from exclusivity deals to early access shit? Remind me other then indie games that have early access? Remind me the fact that developers use early access to get feedback and funds from users to improve their games? Look at how many fucking RoR2 threads we have.

That's not "Consoling it", plus you forgot that every time they do that shit, there was a blowback to the community and removed it. So many fucking complained and Epic just keep ignoring the community feedback. What's the fucking point?

Not him, but are you retarded? He's using that to show how good RoR2 reception was. Nobody cared it was early access.

>and their features are pro retard
ftfy

I don't have EGS installed either, friendo.

Risk of Rain 1 is the pinnacle of Yea Forums-core you fucking reddit tourist, of course a sequel would break the board, and it did.

>people are retarded and brought an unfinished game
>you should too!
Heres a thought, id rather not aid in the raping of video games as a whole.

>No Linux = No Buy

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Never mind the fact that Risk of Rain devs were originally from /agdg/.

>Paid Mods
Which thanks to COMMUNITY FEEDBACK were removed
>Gimping Mod Support for Workshop Supported Games
Please provide a source, last time I checked all the games with Workshop support still had it (and can still use whatever third party mod tool the user wants without restrictions)
>Killing custom content in their own games
CSGO and Dota 2 have metric fucking tons of user generated content, a lot of creators even get paid for it. Please try again.

Risk Of Rain was released as a full game, you reddit faggot.
Anybody that gave a fuck about 2 is either a shill or mentally challenged, either way they dont belong here, because anybody that played RoR here knows better than to buy a fucking unfinished game you dumb faggot.

Because naive gamers used to think that it would be totally awesome to be able to play a game a year before it released.
Gamers were naive, starry-eyed morons who failed to realize as soon as the developer/publisher got their money they dropped support for continuing development of their game.
Why would they actually finish their EA game? They already got your money; THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE MONEY!
A handful of real dev studios who value their reputation righteously used Early Access to polish and test their game with the full intention of completing it, but 9 out of 10 the early access apples are rotten. It makes me laugh every time I see those early access games that sell DLC because they're scum. FINISH THE GAME BEFORE SELLING DLC PACKS YOU GREEDY SCAM ARTIST FUCKS!

>Anybody that gave a fuck about 2
So, the entirety of Yea Forums upon release?

And again you just ignore whatever doesn't support your delusion. I know you do that all the time, but it still amazes me.

CHING CHONG PING PONG

>COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
Aka crying nonstop
Gabe still defended paid mods though, and still wants to implement them
>Please provide a source
How about Skyrim?
Feel free to provide links to any of the major overhauls skyrim has and their locations on the Steam Workshop. You're going to have a hard time because the Workshop is built for small, shitty mods and not the full conversions that made Valve what they are today
>CSGO and Dota 2 have metric fucking tons of user generated content, a lot of creators even get paid for it.
Imagine being so fucking retarded you compare using a .png as a spray or downloading a model or skin from GameBanana to paying for fucking keys to unlock crates to HOPE that you get the skin or spray you want to use. I dont give a fuck if the creators are getting paid, they removed user generated content solely so they could make more money and you're actually defending that shit like the good little cuck you are.

>entirety of Yea Forums
Have you ever actually looked at the numbers next to your stupid fucking posts? If you did, you could realise how fucking fast this site moves and how many people are posting. Risk Of Rain 2 has about 500k owners, are you really so retarded that you think everybody here was posting about it? That everybody just stopped discussing everything else only to discuss Risk Of Rain 2?
Fuck off back to whatever shit site you came from because it clearly wasnt here.

>still wants to implement them
Yet here we are, years after, still no paid mods. It's almost as if he understands that pissing off his userbase is a bad move.
Also what the fuck are you trying to say with that Skyrim bit? Are you pro-Workshop or anti-Workshop? Because Skyrim currently mods just fine with or without.

valve is just better
gtfo nigger

>500k owners
Try 1 million, friend.
venturebeat.com/2019/05/03/risk-of-rain-2-storms-to-over-1-million-copies-sold-after-1-month-in-steam-early-access/

>Crying nonstop
Which you can still do, call it whatever you want, but under Epic's current model customer feedback is simply nonexistent.
>Workshop
A simplistic bare bones mod workshop is still better than no workshop at all. And Steam never bars any third party modding tool if people want to use them, and let's be real for a moment, Skyrim modders almost exclusively the Nexus modding tool and that's it.
>User generated content.
I am pretty sure you are free to submit your content, and games like TF2 still support community forums. CSGO and Dota 2 are live services, and both have custom game modes. The cosmetics are part of their business models (in case you forgot, they're both free to play) and maybe you don't support content creators, but Valve does and they paid them for their contribution.

Ohh seething valve drone but your spam doesn't work, Tim literally created the best game engine on this planet now keep coping

>that blade dashboard
>it's 14 years old now
FUGGGGG I WANNA GO BACK

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All monopoly games I've ever tried were absolutely shit, for some reasons it's impossible to port any boardgame into a decent program unless it's chess.

user I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish here. Even if you prove that Valve is bad it wouldn't change that Epic is objectively worse and is currently spreading it's cancer through the entire PC gaming scene.

>Why is Valve selling a game it developed and published on its own storefront?!?!?!?!

You need to be 18 to post here.

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>Because Skyrim currently mods just fine with or without.
No, it doesnt. Sure, considering you're retarded and only want to install your fucking anime sword packs and your cheat items its fine for your retarded needs.
What about everybody else that wants to install these massive, expansion pack level mods that completely overhaul the game and add more content that was even in the base game to begin with? They sure as fuck arent on the Steam Workshop because the Steam Workshop is fucking gimped and was built to destroy sites like ModDB and Nexus much like Valve killing custom content in CSGO killed GameBanana.
>A simplistic bare bones mod workshop is still better than no workshop at all
Not only is that wrong, but we already had better tools. Again, this is just Valve/Steam consolising the PC market.
>I am pretty sure you are free to submit your content
And you wont be able to use that content in game.
>in case you forgot, they're both free to play
Did you just fucking forget that CSGO only went free to play last year and has been a $20 title for the last 5 years? So not only did you have to pay $20 to play the game, you had to drop another $2.50 to buy a key to open a chest for the CHANCE to get the skin you wanted to get or the spray you wanted to get even though in CS:S it was dragging and dropping files.
Epic is clearly not worse than Valve, though.

Outside of games Valve itself developed, "Steam exclusives" aren't a thing.

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>Epic is clearly not worse
Read the entire fucking thread. Ffs, it doesn't even allow you to buy more than a game at a time.

Muh community and achievements.
Epic store suck btw.

>was built to destroy sites like ModDB and Nexus
?????????????
It didn't do that, though.
You can still go on Nexus and fucking mod Skyrim through the Nexus launcher you fucking ape.
I'd know because I was playing fucking Enderal (nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77868) yesterday, and this mod changes the entire fucking game.

>quality games
You clearly only paid attention to Metro and maybe borderlands three if you think that store is filled with quality games, just look at that John Wick exclusive as something that counters this quality game argument

Imagine defending the egs

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>Epic is clearly not worse than Valve, though.
Alright, not gonna bother wasting my time with some idiot.

They used to be such great friends...

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No but they bribe people to do it. Which is the entire point. If a game is exclusive to Steam you can be absolutely certain no bribery has taken place, if a game is exclusive to Epic you know they got bribed to do it, especially if it's a single player game, since there would be no technical reason for why it shouldn't be available on other stores.

What, you don't think David Cage's Gifts to Gaming™ aren't quality games?

How the fuck is that "cancer"? If anything, its anti to Valves cancer
Read the thread you fucking moron
Steam manipulates the psychology of sales and shopping carts to get dumb motherfuckers like you to buy trash that you're never going to play just because its "cheap".
Did you install Enderal though Workshop? No? I wonder why that is
Its almost like Valve doesnt want you downloading full conversions and actual quality mods through their workshop and just want you to install dumb shit like anime skins.

>literally no argument
What a fucking smoothbrain

>the psychology of shopping carts

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>"Steam manipulates the psychology of sales and shopping carts to get dumb motherfuckers like you to buy trash that you're never going to play just because its "cheap"."
>he'd actually prefer for Big Brother to tell him how and when to spend his money

If Epic is clearly not worse then why do you bother defending them? What great of company are they if they managed to piss off so many people? At this point even fucking EA is better than Epic, because at least EA has the decency of putting only their own games exclusive to Origin and not some else's games.

>you have to mindlessly lap up DRM that can take away your games without any ability to contest it

YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF TORRENTS, ME MATEYS

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Why doesn't Valve just match the sharing? Just fucking do it, do something. Anything. Sitting it out isn't going to work.

What the fuck is your argument for the Workshop? On one hand you don't want Valve to have a hand in everything you do, but then when something like the Workshop exists, you want it to take over indie sites? What the fuck is your point?????

>Steam manipulates the psychology of sales and shopping carts to get dumb motherfuckers like you to buy trash that you're never going to play just because its "cheap".
I had laugh at your shit before but this one takes the cake, famie.

>At this point even fucking EA is better than Epic, because at least EA has the decency of putting only their own games exclusive to Origin and not some else's games.
No way in hell should anyone defend EA when they themselves have given us this Microtransactions hell we currently live in

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With how incompetent epic is, it doesn't seem like Valve needs to do a whole lot. Maybe something like "if you use Steam to advertise your game, you can't make it exclusive to another store", that's about it.

>Why doesn't Valve just match the sharing?
They already try when a game sells well-enough, the thing is that it's too costly, even Tim has admitted that he has to cut corners with foreign countries just to maintain the 12% cut.
Source: twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1091025939109199879?

Shopping carts in the real world have this issue where you cant fit everything in at the same time, which means you can only grab so much.
Steam? Not an issue, buy all the $1 trash you want. You'll never play it, but at least you have it and Valve gets money.
>What great of company are they if they managed to piss off so many people?
Pharmaceutical companies also piss off people too fucking stupid to do the research and anti-vax Facebook meme believing retards.
Steam Shills are the anti-vaxxers of gaming.
>I want it to take over indie sites
Reading comprehension you dumb faggot, learn it.

Every fucking gaming company is guilty of that shit at this point. EA, Valve, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Activision-Blizzard, Nintendo. All those fuckers went after the MTX bucks.

You have to understand, to the Chinese, bribery is a common and accepted business practice.

>100 players game vs 10 players game

>bribery
How dumb are you?

Let's fucking try it again because this has become a game of fucking telephone and because you decide to mass-reply like a faggot you can't coherently get your thoughts across in a legible manner:
What is your problem with the Steam Workshop? Keep it to the point.

That was the dumbest post read I here today. Congratulations.

>Pharmaceutical companies also piss off people too fucking stupid to do the research and anti-vax Facebook meme believing retards.
You didn't address my argument. We're talking game distribution here, not pharmaceuticals.

>Shopping carts in the real world have this issue where you cant fit everything in at the same time, which means you can only grab so much.
>Steam? Not an issue, buy all the $1 trash you want. You'll never play it, but at least you have it and Valve gets money.
But then I read this gem, and I understood. You have actual brain damage.

I hate ea and origin much more.

That was the dumbest post read I here today. Congratulations.

>allowed
You don't "allow" MS to do anything, if they want to do something in the PC space, they will get what they want. Metro was going to be one of those "play anywhere" titles for MS, so they weren't putting up with Epics shit.

Monopoly has always been a shit board game, even in the pathetic meme of childrens board games.
Its a living emblem of the idea that quality and popularity are mutually exclusive.

It's cancer because it's a minimum functionality that exists in almost every barebones store. The fact Epic is so incompetent they still don't have it in 2019 is amazing.

Medium rare is the perfect steak

>Did you install Enderal though Workshop? No?
store.steampowered.com/app/933480/Enderal_Forgotten_Stories/

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>Play with like a million fucking house rules
>wtf this game is shit and takes forever

You're clearly fucking illiterate, even if i make a post with one word on one line you'd still be too fucking stupid to understand.
>We're talking about companies doing the right thing even if it pisses off retards, not companies doing the right thing even if it pisses off retards
Yeah, you're clearly not the one with braindamage.

For that to be the case, the post you copy-pasted should've had at least some logical inconsistency. The post is a simple statement, nothing to peruse or question. Try harder, chang.

>You're clearly fucking illiterate
>i

oof

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>Everyone who complains is a retard
>Except me
Also
>Everyone who criticizes Epic is a steamdrone
>I defend Epic, but that doesn't make me a shill.

steamtards BTFO

I like it.

Fine, I'll do it myself.
>What about everybody else that wants to install these massive, expansion pack level mods that completely overhaul the game and add more content that was even in the base game to begin with?
See

That was the dumbest post read I here today. Congratulations.

The more that idiot talks, the more I'm enjoying this. He didn't even respond to you which shows he's just a shitposter with no brains whatsoever

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Medium-rare is peak taste.

Woah, there Lee, make good use of your captcha checks.

You always noticed that epic shills never attempt to argue why their store is better unless its a very vague statement like "muh dev support, muh "quality" games" that are usually easily disproved. They also usually attack other stores features that epic has always going back to "nobody uses those" along with saying valve killed pc gaming. Do these shills think this is somehow supposed to help their argument, because all it has done is just prove how shit epic is when its own supporters can't even find a good argument for why its good and resort to blanket statements about other stores.

Buying games in 2019

Fuck you, buy Borderlands 3

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They clearly know EGS is one of the worst stores on PC, but they need to justify their hatred for Valve for any reason.

publishers had no choice. Steam controlled the market and still does. The only publishers who have a choice (EA, Ubisoft) need to have deep pockets and good exclusives. Good exclusives is the only thing that can make you independent of Steam.

Aye

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>Steam controlled the market and still does.
>The only publishers who have a choice (EA, Ubisoft) need to have deep pockets and good exclusives.
Those two statements contradict each other, wang, Please do a double take next time before posting.

>the unreal games STILL aren't on the EGS

Consolefag detected. That's not how things work on PC, it's not a closed platform where you need someone's approval to publish a game.

Imagine taking 4 hours out of your day to get repeatedly blown the fuck out on Yea Forums in one thread. If there's proof that this motherfucker is getting paid then this is it.

You wouldn't NOT buy my games...right user? I've even got Ellen Page in one of them!

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EA and Ubisoft are the exception that proves the rule. You need to be as rich as EA and Ubisoft to not be dependent on Steam. Everyone else is either on Steam or dumb Steam drones will refuse to buy their game.

That's exactly how things work on PC now. How else do you explain these dumb platform war threads? The average PC gamer today grew up only knowing Steam and refuses to buy a game that isn't on Steam.

Fuck you David Cage you drove my Best Friends crazy enough to fight and terminate their YouTube channel

>How else do you explain these dumb platform war threads?

Shitposters and stupid people who try to defend the egs

>if somebody refuses to use shitty chink spyware then that means that they won't buy a game unless it's on steam
How much do you get paid to do this?

You are inbred. I have plenty of GoG games. Most gamers are okay with GoG or other stores existing. These threads exist because Epic is forcing aggressive exclusivity on a medium which that wasn't an issue.

Exactly this, in fact a lot of us welcome the upcoming GoG Galaxy 2 because it promises a shit-ton of features while also centralizing games from multiple platforms.

It's amusing that for years Pcbros shouted "no steam no buy" to developers and publishers everywhere and then have the audacity to turn around and claim that others are manipulating the market.

Are you too dumb to use the start menu or put a shortcut on your desktop? Has Steam ruined PC gamers so much that they can't launch a game without a 3rd party launcher?

nobody has a problem with things like gog
people do have a problem with being forced to install a bunch of shitty launchers

I wonder, would there be less pushback if the egs wasn't an incompetently managed pile of garbage?

When you have dozens of games that you play regularly, a launcher is the only way to go without making your computer look like a pozzed dump.

So it's OK when Valve does it but if anyone else does it it's a shitty launcher? You just proved the point.

It would be less, but what would actually help is if they stopped doing things that are pro-publisher and anti-consumer, like adding an extra tax to avoid increasing their rates in some countries.

>too dumb to use the start menu
Nothing is faster or more convenient than hitting the windows key, typing the first couple letters of game's name and hitting enter

I go rare nigga

who cares?

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>windows search bar
Nigger this shit can't even find notepad++ half the time

What other launcher offers controller support without having to look for 3rd party drivers that may not even exist? What other launcher offers compatibility features like proton? What other launcher manages mods for you? Steam makes things easier.

Works on my machine :)

Publishers getting direct control over the mod community is NOT a good thing.

friend bought it for me... out of 5 total games, we could finish only a single one because of the huge fucking amount of gamebraking bugs

made by a ubisoft studio, not much more to say really.
also, it's a terrible console port

What about GOG then? There are some game exclusive to GOG that aren't on Steam

Selling old games that weren't being sold anywhere else is literally the GoG business model.

They're not exclusive because GoG pays them cash

Then people can just move their mods somewhere else then. You're trying really hard to spin this as a bad thing but there's nothing stopping people from taking their mods off the workshop and putting them somewhere else.

gog.com/game/vampire_the_masquerade_bloodlines_2

Say what?

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>40 minutes later
>still no response
So this is the power of Epic shills? Must say that I am not very impressed.

he is probably being beaten by his chink overlords due to not shilling hard enough

No one cares about games being exclusive to steam, because it's not bloated unintuitive spyware, which lacks basic features and customer service. Steam is the best thing we currently have, and many people want to keep it.

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GOG is a subsidiary of CD Projekt Red, of course they are going to sell their own games on it.

This

please stop baiting the entire board
thanks

Did you see Bloodlines in there too? Did you ignore it on purpose? That game is published by Paradox Interactive and made by Hardsuit Labs

I acknowledge that, but that still doesn't change their business model as a whole. GOG started has a website which sells retro games that aren't sold anywere else, this is still the main appeal.

Remember the mysterious lack of pro Epic posts before E3? Really gets me thinking.

But they still sell new and upcoming games. They even discontinued "Good Old Games" as their moniker and are now just "GOG".
Whatever they started as doesn't matter.