Cyberpunk fail: you can't enter buildings

Well would you prefer skyrim's 10 building capitals?

for real?

It's almost like open world is an inherently flawed genre that we need to exterminate on sight.

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Why would you want to enter every single building? Obviously most of them would be bland and empty. Just like in real life.

>this whole thread
Yea Forums's IQ is getting lower and lower year on year.

based retard

so the solution is to have no cities at all? Epic

>I have a big stinky shit in place of brain

Well, sad for you

Not exactly. If you commit crimes in a decent part of town, cops and private corporation security comes for you. If you commit crimes in shitty areas, only gang members go after you

anyone who watched the trailer who isn't deeply cynical and knows the kind of bullshit developers love to pull, will think the game is fully immersive and every building can be entered etc
as it is i'd rather play a map that was smaller in scale like GTAIV with plenty of enterable interiors, than a map like GTAV where there was literally fucking nowhere you could enter, even if the interiors were fully designed
smaller with more detail beats larger and bereft of life every time

why? cyberpunk itself lends well to an open world format.

No, the solution is to not let you travel through an entire city. Fucking open world fags don't know what "excess" means.

Was that something CDPR promised? For every building to have an interior? It’d be foolish to make that kind of promise, doubly so if you believed it. Expecting it when they didn’t say it’d be there is another thing entirely.

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Breath of the Wild

because instead of making some shitty map that is 6 gorillions of miles long you could try to make a medium sized map but very detailed

Arma III called and wants you to laser designate yourself so you can get fucked from 38km away

Are you lonely and starved for attention or just dumb? Which one is it? It can't be both, that would be too pathetic.

>smaller with more detail beats larger and bereft of life every time

if you're going to be cynical then it's just going to be smaller with better graphix instead of more detail. Cyberpunk itself is a console game anyway, so if open world is done away with they're just going to cut it down into a linear corridor that runs at a consistent 30 fps because that's what consoleniggers want.

All the good games allow you to do it though

>You can jack cars and run over crowds of people though

woooooooooooooooooow.
and what are the consequences in this as rpg decribed game for doing so?

Fuel's map was huge and also great because it had character and was well built for vehicles. Size itself is never the problem, it's always what is done in that space. If it's just another RNG looter shooter then of course it's going to be shit, but because it's an RNG looter shooter and not because it's open world or linear.

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No, we need to extermimate you faggots who think everybody should be forced to play linear corridor simulators all the time.

Have sex. Actually, scratch that. Don't breed.

>Cyberpunk fail: you can't enter buildings
that's false
>Only some scripted buildings are available to access.
did you expect them to put meaningful content into every fucking apartment or were you psyched about visiting empty untextured unmodekled blocks?

>Muh "linear corridors or open world trash" false dichotomy
Like clockwork

Name me 1(one) in-game city in which you could enter every single building that has more than 10 of them

Except it's not a false dichotomy. Take away the "open world" element of open world games and you're left with games that aren't open world, which can only be linear hallways. Go fuck yourself.

Wasn't most stuff In Novagrad also not available for acces?
Doesn't seem like anything new to me. You either get buildings you can't acces or empty shit like Skyrim where a """""city"""""is a few buildings.

>half completed
Let this fucking meme die.

The happy middle is called Hub world. Excellent hub world games include:
-Arcanum
-Baldur's Gate 1 and 2
-Dark Souls
-Fallout 1 and 2
-Final Fantasy VI and VII
-Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
-Planescape Torment
-Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Also, even when you think of more linear level-based levels, like Deus Ex 1, for example, which is a masterpiece, that's not a linear hallway either. And it's much preferable to open world trash.

Cops or gang members go after you. Some areas don't have police

so whats this games version of content (bandit camps) going to be?

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You can't enter every building though, and those you can are all identical and devoid of any interior features including furniture.

Cunt.

Yes but Arma 3 also looks, plays and runs like absolute dogshit and you know it. Don't try to be clever.

>Only some scripted buildings are available to access.
No shit. Why do retards always complain about this when it never ever occurs outside of fantasy RPGs with sparse villages?

Bunch of thugs in the street

MGSV

Not him but Baldur's Gate 2, just finished it.

Hacker hideouts.
What will be the equivalent of hidden treasures?

no enterable museums, no buy. museums are the best most beautiful parts of any game. hard pass from me, slavshits.

Baldur's Gate 2 isn't open world garbage, though. That game doesn't let you visit the entire fucking cities you step into, because it's not made of retarded hype and empty promises like open world garbage

because it's neither hard to do nor technologically hard to do

Isn't this the same shit you try to pull with every new GTA that comes out? nobody wants to enter every goddamn building unless there's a point to it, fuck off.

>enviromental lore and story telling

get a load of this fag.
expository dialogue rulez.

Hub worlds aren't a "middle" at all and are often linear themselves. See Zelda: Skyworld Sword, which is also a hub-based game, yet it's criticized immensely for its linearity.

Linearity and openness is a logical dichotomy, not a false one. You can be a dumb faggot and only want everything to be in a single category or you can realize both of these have their place, depending on the game and genre.

I remember when some turbo cuckolds kept saying that the buildings in this game are tiny because you'll be able to enter into most of them without loading
and that they'd have multiple floors

lmaaaaaaoooooooooo

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False.

The only genre where open world shit is acceptable is driving games.
RPGs and Adventure games are inherently better by being hub world.

Let's be honest, it's way easier to make isometric rooms than properly modelled 3D ones

credit stashes/chaches

Oopsie

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>open world
>enter all buildings
Play Morrowind

If you want copy&pasted garbage with randomised leveled loot it's not hard to do. Fuck off.

God you fuckers are stupid. It wouldn't even be fun to play in a city that huge and be able to enter every building and apartment, it would be irritating and worthless because obviously the overwhelming majority of them would have nothing to see or find. Imagine trying to stumble across a side quest or easter egg when you have literally millions of boring rooms to look in.

>copy-pasted assets everywhere
>no meaningful or interesting content
You know that Cyberpunk will probably have more unique interiors anyway, right?

YOU CANT EVEN CUSTOMIZE CARS IN CP2077

SLAVS BTFO

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Arma 3FPS

Nope. RPGs and adventure games are usually better if they're open world, although there are some notable exceptions. Platformers and shooters are better as linear experiences.

That's how this game is already gonna be because they fell for the open world meme and have a million streets. CDPR is trying to ape Bethesda and Rockstar, the ultimate purveyors of the empty map open world meme.

>Nope. RPGs and adventure games are usually better if they're open world
You can't name a single open world game that's better than ANY of the games I listed here: Not a single one of them.

0.

Nada.

There hasn't been a single positive news about this game ever since 2013.

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>"You can go everywhere"
>Everywhere is just a road.
Every year we lower our expectations just to be able to watch movies with the occasional keyboard input.

I still do for that reason, there's much to do and many unknowns on the horizon.

>YOU CANT EVEN CUSTOMIZE CARS IN CP2077
What the fuck? Source?

lo, is this GTA 2077?

You should lower expectations because the open world meme is and always has been retarded. If you actually want a game where you can enter every building, go play Elder Scrolls: Arena. That world is literally infinite and lets you enter every house, all of which are dungeons nearly indistinguishable from one another.

Open world games are and always have been entirely about making retarded promises that are impossible to keep.

6 year coma, huh? Tough break.

NO BCAUSE YOU CAN'T CUSTOMIZE VEHICLES

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>t. wants another half completed DXMD
you could probably make 3 full MD with the resources they are putting into this game.

Dark souls is not a hub world but Demon souls is

yes, most building weren't open wich made sense, Why would you let a random stranger enter your house ? and Geralt wasn't a thief so he had ne reason to break-in

There are buildings you can't enter in the first Deus Ex.

Dark Souls is not nearly big enough to be considered an open world game. It's too condensed for that (And That's A Good Thing)

Can't wait for OOOHH ELDEN RING

How many times are you gonna bitch about open world games in this thread?
The Witcher was open world, so if you don't like any of their previous games stop shitting up these threads.

Hey heres the thing

You cant enter every building in real life either

Only The Witcher 3 was open world and it was garbage.
The Witcher 1 and 2, good games, were not open world.
CDPR has fallen. Their success has driven them to become Bethesda-lite.

>this is news worthy
name one open world game that takes place in a metropolis lets you have access to every single building
not even yakuza which reused kamurocho 7 fucking times allows you enter anything other than small selection of tis map

>mentally ill people don't like the developers so that means the game is going to be good

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what is skyrim

Red engine is so much better than their constantly rebranded gamebryo

Male or female V, Yea Forums?

A game with no cities.

>will think the game is fully immersive and every building can be entered etc
No, because only a few autists here even expect this to be the case. This is completely unnecessary.

I've heard Americans cannot enter most places because these are private property.

lmao

still, there are towns and you can enter every building in them

>what is skyrim
a game with loading screens at every door

So basically like every other open-world game then?

Good. Being able to murder random npcs is the bare minimum of a good open world

Trash? Yes.

I don't know, it seems like your metric for a good game is how many buildings you can enter, which is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

Has a cybernetic radio of sorts been confirmed? I don't care how cliche it is but I want to merk cyborgs to the sound of pumping retro/synthwave

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>Skyhold
>biggest city in Skyrim
>9 houses
Visit Daggerfall's 200 or Vivec's 9 multilevel cantons

I really don't like the female V they showed us in the demo but if I can customize her and give her a full head of hair then maybe I'll go with female V, if I had to choose between the two that were shown I'd choose male V though.

That's not what the post you're replying to is saying at all, though. Games should stop being open world because open world games have maps that are too big and are either too empty or full of copy-pasted/randomly-generated content. The idea of a game that lets you explore an entire city inherently comes with huge downsides to it. Games that big cannot be designed to be fun across their entire map, which begs the question why they're designed like that to begin with.

>a dozen and a half buildings at best with a population of a grand total of 50
>towns
Skyrim is THE example of why you shouldn't bother with making everything accessible.

Oh you can enter the pixelated houses of like 2 dozen villagers, so comparable.
Fuck off to your banjo threads you manchild

>Only The Witcher 3 was open world and it was garbage.
So you just have an autistic vendetta against open world games. Witcher 3 was one of the most well-designed and content rich open world games ever made. It was very easy to fall into a totally unique adventure. None of the space was wasted.

>Open world games are and always have been entirely about making retarded promises that are impossible to keep.
Nobody ever promised to be able to enter every building, though, that's something your asperger's brought to the table.

Fuck it's not Skyhold, it's Solitude? I don't know anymore

>Witcher 3 was one of the most well-designed and content rich open world games ever made
Yeah, and it was still awful. Pretty telling of the open world genre, IMO.

What. You can go pretty much anywhere in the map from the get go, and it is considerably big since you're on foot the entire time.

Source?

>he actually was expecting to be able to enter random buildings of a huge city in an open world game
Lmao stupid zoomer.

Was this really the look they were going for?

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If you could enter all the buildings in the city, most of them would be filled with absolutely nothing (or some shitty find 50 hidden items side stuff). And they never said you could. Just that they're trying to make a dense city with interesting stuff everywhere. And I have faith that there will be a lot of interesting places to explore. The first demo alone had V's apartment building, those little shops and diners you could walk in. I prefer quality over quantity.

Nice to hear that you can run over people, though. I was afraid they were going to restrict guns and violence to some specific parts of the game like indoor missions. That would make the city feel just really artificial set dressing.

New Vegas is still amazing while being open world, because it actually has a designed world with predicted paths that the player can take.

Cyberpunk is going to be a world of corridors. Also, they haven't yet designed a good combat system and we're already hearing that it's crap, so I wouldn't bet on them improving a bit.

Are you implying that's a bad thing?
Give me my burgerpunk kino, futuristic dystopias and shitting on american culture? sign me up

Dwarf Fortress adventure mode is the only true open world game.

Yeah right, I fucking wish this game looked like GitS or Blade Runner.

>CDPR isn't planning on censoring PS4 version
That's to be expected considering they made the Witcher games. But the question is what will SONY do to the game?

Game releasing in 2020 is lower tech than GTA IV major cringe.
BUT MUH RAYTRACING

Hello, brother

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>this

It's not trash but open world is no longer exciting at all

>New Vegas is still amazing while being open world, because it actually has a designed world with predicted paths that the player can take.
It's also pretty barren in terms of accessible buildings, so I don't know what in the 10 realms of fuck you're even complaining about.

except morrowind is shittier than Yea Forums likes to admit. Trash combat and literally non-existent AI. As a boomer it holds a special place in my heart and I started a new play through two weeks ago, but by the 15 hour mark I was a god in the game (Rob two or three towns and use the money on skill training and you've broken the game) and now with 32 hours in, I literally can't die, two hit everything (and they can't even hit me back since they're always stunned on hit because combat is trash) and am basically just grinding through the MQ. Morrowind did a lot more right than oblivion and especially skyrim, but if you don't have an imagination and a tolerance for dumb combat, it's really not worth playing. It's not a game for Zoomers.

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Nope.

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I like this GTA mod even more now

Pretty interesting interview. The guy said that only the kiroshi eye and the hand grip that you install at the victor ripperdoc from the last years demo are forced upon you, everything else is optional. So you can do an almost pure human playthrough?

If you do get it it's going to be a blurry mess struggling to keep 30FPS. It seems those shitty versions of Wolfenstein and Ark didn't teach you a thing.
If I had a switch, I'd rather get games specifically designed for it.

Snoy can't do shit to it, because they can't afford fuck up having the game on their platform

CP2077 is gonna bring money, Snoy only bullies small games

Unless it's done right like Zelda

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>we're already hearing that it's crap
No we aren't. Most impressions are that it all looks very solid, both gunplay and melee combat, especially the whip. Only the RPS faggot said that gunplay looks meh but he's clearly biased with his tranny agenda.

I recommend FFXIII. You'll love it.

One of the recent demo impression articles (I think PC Gamer's) had them noting that when you get on motorbike radio started playing.
Hopefully there's an option to buy an implant to enable radio outside vehicles too.

And it's totally ok when Rockshit does it?

If you want me to be pedantic, you can't go to the places that are guarded by the Lord Vessel. But even if you could, it would still not be open world, because again, it's a pretty small map. If you go compare it to GTA V, GTA 4, Skyrim, fuck, even Morrowind, you'll see that Dark Souls is hundreds of times smaller than any of those.

No sir, you heard wrong. We venture willy-nilly into any building we see all the time, even and especially when there is no incentive to do so, and abolished property ownership centuries ago. Not being able to enter every little empty shanty and drug store in this game will be completely unimmersive as far as us Americans are concerned.

Let's be honest here, they're forced on you because they needed an excuse to have everyone with an ammo counter at the corner of the screen and basic scanning to figure out early level enemy weaknesses.

The map isn't that small, is the point.

New Vegas is like Morrowind. They are the best open world games, and it's no coincidence that they are also the ones with the smallest maps. Even New Vegas is still hampered hard by being open world, with too many similar caves and deserted areas that have nothing but Deathclaws in them. It would be a much better game if it was not open world and all the designing would have been spent on the more important areas in your journey. It could still be "open" by letting you travel through a map system.

No, this idiot has been complaining about inaccessible buildings since 2013.

MORROWIND

It's literally dozens if not hundreds of times smaller than Morrowind or New Vegas, which are already the smallest open world games there is. Thus, it's not open world.

Next thing, you're gonna argue Metroid is open world. Or Pokemon.

>invisible fucking walls everywhere

>-Arcanum
>-Baldur's Gate 1 and 2
>-Fallout 1 and 2
Are you fucking retarded? None of these games are hub worlds. Fallout1/2 and Baldur's Gate are entirely open world games that are only broken up into instances that you have to constantly load through due to shitty PC's of the past, Arcanum is entirely open world where the whole entire fucking map is open to you and if you wanted you could travel from one city to the next on foot and completely ignore the quest all together following different NPC questlines, you're confusing it to an open world because you're fast traveling 99% of the time. And if you're going to argue that they are in fact hub world because of linearity, then Morrowind isn't a open world game because the entire world is streamlined and level-instanced forcing you to progress according to how the game wants to you play.

Hub worlds are not what you think they are retard. VTMB IS a hub world: small map that you're locked into where everything is just a distance away and pertaining to that game's chapter, you're not tasked to go out the beaten path like Fallout 1/2 or Baldur's Gate because there is a door leading to that quest location in the hub, and you can progress further until you complete small map hub location to next small map hub location.

Best Elder Scrolls game there is, possibly the best open world game there is, but nope, still worse than the games I listed.

That's probably the reasoning yeah. I'm fine with that to be honest. I really like it when games contextualize stuff like the HUD with in-game mechanics.

I don't think the size of the map matters to get the open world designation, unless it's just tiny chunks separated by loading screens. GTA 3 is much smaller and is still considered open world, because it is.

>yonggay
>pudgy ass gut
>4'9
>that incel chin
>greasy ugly face
jesus lmao

>Dark Souls
>Final Fantasy VI and VII

Neither of these are hub worlds.

Normally in these games, the consequence is that you close off some questlines because certain NPCs won't give you dialogue.

Yeah, okay, and I guess The Outer Worlds is an open world too, retard. How weird that the developers of the games you consider open world are working on games I consider hub world now.

The "limitations" you speak of are what made Fallout 1, 2 and Arcanum good. If they fell for the open world meme like Bethesda or nu-CDPR did, their maps would be much bigger and the game would be shit because you can't fill maps with worthwhile content. But they didn't. And that's why those games are good. Because they aren't open world.

I mean you seem to think Final Fantasy VII is a good game and that Fallout 1/2 isn't open world, so if I told you what the better games were I'd just be taking the bait.

Why do CDPRcucks always try to punch above their weight? No matter how hard you cry you can't compete with Ubisoft, Bethesda, Rockstar etc

>Arcanum is entirely open world where the whole entire fucking map is open to you and if you wanted you could travel from one city to the next on foot
You want to know how I know you didn't play it?

>5M city even according to 2020 lore
>enter ever building

>I don't think the size of the map matters to get the open world designation
It does. That's what the "world" part refers to. "World" is a term that refers to huge scale, hyperbolically comparing it to that of an entire planet. And I'm pretty sure even GTA 3 is bigger than Dark Souls by a fuckload. You should go size those games up in miles. You'll be shocked.

So no new competition is allowed? You'd rather suck big game company dicks and shit on the smaller ones?

oh please no
you don't seriusly think they're going to populate the city with random hostiles?

>he expects you can go into every single building in a city full of millions upon millions

get a fucking load of this faggot and his lofty expectations

thank God, i don't want to grind for horse armor or a +1 Vorpal muffler

Not him, but I think you're confusing open world with modern open world. The reason they're different now is because modern hardware enables developers to bypass loading zones.

I've seen some bait in my time friend but saying CDPR is worse than nu-bethesda and ubisoft takes the cake. I've taken shits better than their current works. I've contracted venereal diseases better than their current works. If you sat me down and told me I'd either have to play fallout 76 or abort a child with a hoover, a child's about to learn about hoover's patented cyclone technology.

>looks like I am needed

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kek

Regardless of the reason why they're different, the current "open world" standard is the equivalent of garbage.

If a game like Fallout 1 were released today, it would not be considered open world in a million years. Ditto of Arcanum.

That's why I'm saying open world games are trash. We've gone far past the well designed content of old and gone full into the Bethesda/Rockstar era of terrorizing emptiness. And CDPR is proud to be among that "elite".

what's the middle from?

Based but redditpilled.

>And CDPR isn't planning on censoring PS4 version
That's not a good thing, this means they will sanitize the game on all platforms or will moderate the spicy content...

Maybe if it was intentional, but I'm not sure it was. I think they were more going for something inspired by the shitty art you see in sythnwave videos on youtube.

man I miss fuel, that game as hard as fuck after the halfway point though but man was it comfy doing long off-road races. I wish there were more games like that these days but the whole extreme sports meta seems to have died

Idiocracy.

REMINDER THAT THE SHAZAM POSTER TRIED TO WARN YOU BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

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Yeah, it's totally much better when it's like Elder Scrolls or the Witcher 3, where you go into houses and there's just copy pasted assets everywhere and 5 rat asshole hairs for you to loot.

What the fuck did you expect, an entire city modeled with building interiors included, in massive detail? Why? Even if that were realistically feasible, are you then going to create content for every single building?

I swear, you people are fucking braindead.

Shit.
Pondsmith hasn't spoken in a while either.

The problem is that you think those games were intended to be designed that way when it was really just because of hardware limitations at the time. If they had the ability to make those games as open as the ones we play today, they would.

Plus, a lot of those games you listed aren't even strictly hubs and either fall into "linear" or "open world".

they cucked us bros

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>google mike pondsmith
>he's black

Pre-order cancelled.

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n-no

Open world in itself isn't bad. It's just whether it's filled with content, or "content".

The old Fallouts were handcrafted so every location had, if not meaningful, at least interesting stuff to find. But in contrast modern standard template open world game (like Ubisoft games) is filled with "content" - meaningless shit to collect, short hidden lore snippets, and other tedious and repetitive crap they've shat all over the map.

If Cyberpunk manages to fill the game with the former, it's going to be amazing. But if it's the latter, then it'll be boring, maybe outright garbage. I'm hoping they pull it off after they've talked the talk. But The Witcher 3 had plenty of boring, needless filler in it as well, so we'll see.

what filler did TW3 have, collecting school armour is the only thing you have to do outside of contracts.

Lmao. CDPR is definitely among the top dogs right now. Bethesda is like a toddler playing at the sandbox, even normalfags are turning against them. Ubisoft is just a soulless game factory, they create and create but none of their games have any lasting impact, precisely due to the conveyor belt approach to making games. Rockstar's creates big and pretty games that sell a lot, but the games themselves are stale. See RDR2, sold like a billion copies and yet it's pretty much largely forgotten already.

Welcome to 2013, when the game was announced by him

>have sex
*within straight same-race marriage

wtf he's black? already canceled the pre-order, thanks user.

>If they had the ability to make those games as open as the ones we play today, they would.
Factually wrong. Proof: The Outer Worlds. Leonard Boyarsky and Tim Cain, developers of Fallout 1, have not fallen for your meme genre.

All the examples people are quoting here are in half desolated games with 2 floors max building. I agree it´s a letdown but don´t expect every floor available in a city with skyreachers.

it's amazing how all CDPR had to do was put some effort into making games and they're rivalling them now.

Shenmue 2
Get fucked autist

DXMD was half completed because Square Enix are an absolute bag of penises, but the half we got was great
With CP2077's 4500 year long dev time I'm expecting amazing things

>some bang average slavjunk studio is bigger than the powerhouses of the industry
uh-huh

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Yeah, I meant the contracts and school armor stuff. It was okay, but definitely not the most engaging content.

It would be boring if they fill Cyberpunk with stuff like that - "find all the pieces of an Arasaka Armor Set sprinkled throughout the city", or something.

Nigga, the Outer Worlds is just a collection of big open zones instead of an interconnected map. No idea why you think it'll have more content.

i hope they at least let you do assassination jobs, and maybe even randomly generating them after you've completed a few premade ones with thought put into them.

its pretty easy when you have like 3 buildings in the game. We dont count bland empty open worlds.

It's like Skyrim with futas

Devs said they haven't planned it. You can steal, save cars in garage to call them whenever you want. As for modding cars in game, they said they haven't planned it yet. If they want, I guess it'll just be like toggling a switch

Alright? Did people seriously expect every building would have an interior or something?

Fallout: Rick and Morty edition is like 40 hours long according to them though, i understand not wanting to tackle open world if there's virtually no content.

Explains how soulless the other game companies are. FeelsBadAnon

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Assassination jobs would be pretty sweet, actually. Especially if the targets can be out in the open world among people, and not always just hidden in some abandoned building.

A game where there are only a few sets of interiors with very similar loot in them that get copy-pasted over and over to all of the buildings, which are all separated with a loading screen so often the interior doesn't even match the dimensions outside?

Shit post fodder user. Yea Forums never sleeps

the interview where is the image from:

youtube.com/watch?v=DKOPkKmDi8I

Basically you can enter these buildings they made content for. I think its better this way, why join a building where is nothing to do?

To be fair that's because CDPR learned from literally nothing. Up until the first Witcher they were just a localizer. Fun fact: first game was planned to be open world, but they simply didn't have the know-how or budget as they were learning everything along the way. What they did in just over a decade is fucking mental.

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thats how witcher 3 was as well you retards

>It does. That's what the "world" part refers to.
No, it refers to being able to access a considerably sized map at your own volition, it's not a specific metric about the size of the map itself. So Gone Home wouldn't be an open world game, but Bully is.

Yea Forums's just finding shit to bitch about user. Nobody outside of a turbo autist would want to venture into the rouge optometry clinic, tax filer, chiropractor or IHOP in a video game.

Nonono Cybertrannybros what do we do now?

do you go into every single building irl as well? no, you only go into specific buildings for specific purposes. these buildings are often spread out, you dont often live where you work for example. having them all concentrated in a small spot makes the world seem artificial and fake.

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It may have something to do with the fact the take their time with games so they feel distinct. Take the Witcher trilogy and compare it to, let's say, Mass Effect. There are changes to the later, but at the end of they you are playing distinctly the same TPS with RPG elements. Each Witcher game is an RPG, but done in its own way so it comes of as fresh.

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>There will be trans clinics in the game
>You can't go inside them
>The suicide rate jumps from 40% to 40.01%

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Then what's the point of making it open world? Even though Deus Ex is like a fucking square block you could enter every buildings

Who even expected that at all? People are insane if they think this will be anywhere near a "cyberpunk city life simulator".

you really want to be able to walk into any building you see?

There are plenty of buildings you can't enter in Deus Ex. There are also hub maps, so not everything is interconnected.

The game is better the more buildings you're allowed to enter.

Yong got fat

Same happened with Novigrad in Witcher 3 you dumpshit.

I was hoping that you could go in almost every building in this game. Guess it was too much work and too taxing on the engine.

Either bait or room temperature IQ

You mean like every Deus Ex game? I guess those are shit too now.

That and CDPR have some very talented devs at the lead that few companies can match. Which is funny since CDPR started from literally not really knowing how to make games.

Probably but i dont want to enter into copypasted buildings and will take lot of human hours to make it all different.

They're garbage RPGs but great immersive sims and the good one(s) are bolstered by absolutely amazing writing.

this

I don't expect every building can be entered, but I really want to see a lot of meaningful, interesting and well-crafted buildings you can. And definitely buildings that stand out from the scenery. Like I don't need to visit every one in a row of apartment buildings, but I definitely want to check out every interesting club or unique looking place. Like that NCPD building from the last year's gameplay demo.

Expecting every building is insanity. But the city needs to be much, much more than just background you can't interact with.

Being able to enter literally every single building in a game set in a large urban area is madness. Even the first gameplay demo had plenty of indoor areas. I doubt there's gonna be a shortage of them.

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But I can't enter every building so that means they are shit.

But why would you enter building where there is nothing to do? No content, nothing?

I wish you the best of luck user

No entry, no buy. Deal with it.

>wanting improvement is low IQ
Dilate

Okay retard, they're absolutely horrific open world games. In fact they're basically explicitly not open world games.

So apparently Johnny Silverhand (Keanu) has the second most lines of dialogue in the entire game game (first one obviously being the player's character). Not sure how to feel about this, how in the name of fuck did they afford him? That couldn't have been cheap.

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But will GTA 6 have access to all buildings?

It better, or it's going to be shit.

>HURRRRR WHY CAN'T I ENTER EVERY BUILDING IN THE CITY WHICH HAS SEVERAL THOUSAND BUILDINGS
Is Yea Forums really this retarded or are you people just shitposting? This shit is literally not possible unless you want the game to be released in actual 2077.
Plus this game will probably have more unique interiors than every Bethesda game combined.

Never doubt Rockstar baby

This game will be GOTY and I'm glad you fucking autists are not taken seriously by anyone.
>open world trash
This is a fucking buzz word now.

Maybe they gave him 5-10% royalty for each copy sold.

No fucking shit you can't go in every building, what would there even be to do in 90% of them?

They're not open world yet I can't enter every building. That's pathetic. Even in Skyrim I could enter every building.

To be honest as a kid I thought you would be able to do that in GTA:VC and it would an insanely detailed immersive city simulation where you can do anything, your expectations are wild when you don't have a clue about limitations yet.

>distant Sapkowski screeching

Yeah, congratulations on describing an hub world game.
It's not even about if it will have more content. It's that it will have more content worth a shit by hour you spend playing it, which is what matters.
Cyberpunk 2077 has more content because it has 50000 more bandit camps/hacker hideouts. You can keep that "content"

That's the longevity Cyberpunk 2077 will have when you take out all the bullshit out. But that's the hallmark of a good game to you, isn't it, open world brainlet? The more time that gets wasted by you doing boring shit, the better.

Because it makes sense to duck into the nearest building if you’re being pursued by enemies or need some cover for a firefight. People aren’t expecting every fucking building to have a questline involved; they just want some verisimilitude in their “open world” game. It would be like if you had multiple bodies of water but you can’t swim or wade in any of them because an invisible wall blocks it off. What’s the fucking point?

A game where an entire town is less than ten small buildings.

Yeah as I kid I expected shit like that too. But Yea Forums isn't filled with dumb, naive kids. At least I hope.

MGSV
Pokemon

Nope. "World" is the metric. It's why they call it an "open world" and not just an open "game". The "world" part has the intention of talking about scope.

Skyrim has more enterable buildings than the entire Deus Ex series. Defend this.

>Cyberpunk 2077 has more content because it has 50000 more bandit camps/hacker hideouts.
Source?

Every open world game ever. Notably: The Witcher 3, developed by the same studio.

>But Yea Forums isn't filled with dumb, naive kids

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I'm asking about Cyberpunk. Where did you get the info that it has 50000 bandit camps/hacker hideouts?

>MUH VERTICALITY
>MUH INTERIORS
>THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE THIRD PERSON DEAL WITH IT IT WILL BE BETTER THIS WAY

oho noo no no no

First person fags confirmed sucking CDPR's cock

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>This one will be different
Ah, classic open world faggot cope. The newest one is always the one that is finally gonna be good. Pay up, goy.

yea no you fucking retard. especially not on consoles with limited memory etc.

the only "easy" way to do it would to build a template and make every interior practically the same. which of course will lead to the rabid retards screaming about it being copy pasted. Not to mention the absolute hammering of hardware having to load in every interior (even with culling etc it will still tax hardware quite a bit)

of course you could take the lazy bethesda way and have a loading screen which will get people seething at hurr the loading screens

Skyrim's third person mode is tacked on bullshit that has no bearing on gameplay or world scale, why do people even pretend to care about it?

Threadly reminder that an Open World map is objectively superior to more linear maps.

So you have no source and just shitposting? Okay.

Wrong. A densely designed linear map is objectively superior to an open world map.

What the fuck are you on about? Most of the buildings in IV you couldnt enter as well. Hell im pretty sure there were more enterable buildings in V. Even if I am not remembering correctly V felt more "lively" just in terms of NPC density. IV felt like a fucking ghost town at times.

Yea Forums is a shithole user you should use your brain sometimes. Nothing said here has any fucking value.

Cyberpunk will be a shit or a success and Yea Forums will keep shitposting until bored and move on to shitpost about the next shit

cause its more immersive than first person, actually seeing your character interact in the world, draws you into the game world more

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>being a floating camera behind a guy instead of being the guy is more immersive
shaking my head to be honest family

>no source
>make up shit
>haha no ur the faggot
go dilate suntranny

Wrong. There is nothing a linear map does that a more open map cant do as well. You might not like how devs have been implementing them, but that doesnt make them an inferior design.

except you are not the guy you are still a floating camera in first person

at least in third person you can see your guy on the screen, interacting with the game world, helping immerse yourself in it and feel a part of it

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This is probably the argument most third-person players will use.

Yep thats the level of fucking retardation we are reaching. Being a floating ghost is most inmersive

>Yeah, congratulations on describing an hub world game.

I don't even think you know what a hub world is.

We don't know if the content in Outer Worlds will be any more meaningful than any other generic open world game on the market either. All of this just sounds like a combination of wishful thinking and you being confused as to what exactly constitutes an open world game.

So you're saying it's a videogame.

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no different from the floating ghost of FPS view, especially if you don't see your body at all just the v_model, at that point yeah actually seeing the character you customized interact in the world is way more immersive, cause you're actually seeing your fucking character

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Except its not nigger. In first person I am seeing the world as my character sees the world. Which is without a doubt more immersive.

I like how even the smallest mention of BotW is instantly met with hyperbole on this board.

Cyberpunk does first person, because going third person would have affected the game world too much. There's an interview about it with the level designer. Basically, with third person, every room and doorway must be designed so it not only accommodates the character but the following camera as well. So everything is built larger and wider. Not problem in largely outside area game like Nier, but it doesn't work as well in a cramped future world.

Look at the first gameplay demo. How the fuck would the third person camera fit well inside the small rooms of the scavengers' hideout, or V's small apartment, or that cozy diner she walks through?

Except you don't see your character, it takes you out of the world, not draws you into it.

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>Is more immersive SEEING a fucking cartoon interacting with the world than interact yourself seeing the world as your character

You are baiting at this point

Open worlds can be dense though, and if they are then there's literally no reason to play a linear game anymore.

BOTW almost has no irrelevant buildings though

>can't project himself into the character on his screen if its not first person

sounds like your problem not mine user

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What the fuck? Are you taken out of the real world when you arent able to see your ass cheeks spread open when your crouch? At least with a first person perspective you are able to experience the game world through one of your in game characters senses, sight.

in those instances the camera could just get up closer behind the player, and go over the shoulder, there would always be a solution but CDPR got lazy

He is a cuck. Its more enjoyable for him to watch others doing things than it is for him to be doing them himself

nice source how about at least a timecode

>The Witcher 3 was a cuck game
Lmao CDPR shills have lost it

topkek I though you were going to say cause they can't fit through the doors

>actually seeing your character interact in the world
Ironic how you keep posting Skyrimjob pictures, seeing as your character and other NPCs just lifelessly glide across the ground and swing wiffle ball bats at each other. There's no 'interaction' there, I could understand if you used RDR2 as a reference.

This picture is a good example as to why your argument about immersion is kind of dumb. You arent seeing/experiencing a single fucking thing the character is experiencing.

kek

>Open worlds can be dense though
Must be a coincidence there hasn't been a single one that was dense with good shit, then.
Unless you mean "dense" as in Far Cry 2 where they put a million enemies everywhere or Breath of the Wild where they put kokoro seeds instead.

Seeing in the real world and seeing in a videogame first person camera view is not the same thing.

games like SQUAD feel less immersive because all you see is just the weapon in your hand, you can't see your character interact with the world, its like an overlay on the screen at that point, its the opposite of immersive

immersive does not have to mean realistic, its obviously not the way you see IRL, but no first person game recreates that experience either

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Games cant be "cuck games" its all design decisions. You are a cuck when its something you prefer

The Outer World will have a much smaller overall map, which does invariably mean that it will have more content worth a shit per meter than Cyberpunk 2077

In Witcher 3 you could enter a shit ton of buildings
Like 90%

What the fuck did you expect lmao, retard.

>game has 6 regions
>only one of those regions is the city

Future city confirmed to be small as fuck with little density and modern looking buildings. Fucked deal breaker for me. I wanted to blast hard core synth while running away from cops in a concrete, neon lit jungle but it'll probably only take you 1 minute to get from one end of the city to the other. Also, why haven't they been talking about map size? Kind of suspicious.

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youtube.com/watch?v=DKOPkKmDi8I
got you senpai

This. All the 3rd person camera view in skyrim does it show you how janky the animations are. RDR2 would be a better example. But even then that game is arguably more immersive in first person mode as well.

no quite the opposite its a good example of how much more immersive it is to see your character responding to the environment (see the foot position changing on the boat) its the reason I picked that screen out and took that screenshot, how the hell do you not get that

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>the Witcher 3 devs were cucks because they preferred to design the game in third person
It seems you enjoy media made by cucks user

The fuck you talking about? The city is divided into 6 districts. Then there's the outside badlands on top of that.

In what game has a city ever had 100% of their buildings enterable? And I mean an actual city, not a Bethesda small village.

Morrowind, Gothic

luckily I don't preorder games, so I don't have to cancel it, but if I had this wold unironically be enough of a reason to do it.

Games streets looked boring and dead already outside that one spot where everyone was waling into walls and disappearing into each others, but the interior segment looked nice, and I just assumed that in the year of 2000+20 we would have access to basic feature from 2010, so we could at least take a elevator to some skyscaper and take a shit on some dudes office and jump out of the window (or roof, if windows have reinforced class).

But no, it's going to be another baron street patrol gta clone. I think that I will stick to saits row and wait for the asset convertion mods.

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It's not about the animations its about seeing your character which is an extension of yourself actually in the game world rather than just a limited view of their weapons in their hands

do you not play third person action games or something, this is the most basic principle of those

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I think that you are fucking retarded and you need to never reply to me ever again. Kthxbye

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>literally making shit up to shitpost
Pathetic.

Except now they are making a first person game now. If all their games had a 3rd person perspective you might have a point

What I like a lot about Deus ex MD is that the map isn't that big, but almost every building is open and has detail in it.
Quality over Quantity

>get proven wrong
>y-you're retarded!
kys animetranny

Skyrim > TW3

Hammerfell > GTAdogs Sunshine77

Another win for the BethesdaBulls

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If you seriously thought every building was going to have playable interiors you are a complete mouth breathing retard. Must be your first day playing video games.

why even bother comparing night city to some fantasy rpg where you're lucky to have more than 10 shacks per village

Awesome, so they were cucks until they made Cyberpunk 2077
I hope you don't own a copy of the Witcher 3 user

>city will be GTAV city size and then just wilderness and desert and shitty rural area

just like GTAV pls god no, everything outside of the city is fucking boring

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>but almost every building is open and has detail in it.
>DX:MD
If by almost every building you mean like 20% of buildings. Who are you trying to fool?

except he's fucking wrong retard

You're comparing a game with maybe a hundred or so houses spaced out in little towns to a game with a an entire metropolies filled with thousands of houses, buldings, and probably ten times that amount in apartments.

Posts like this show why Yea Forums is considered a shit board

Fucking prove it then

>prove my shitposting wrong hurrrr
How about you prove that you're not a faggot.

>

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top fucking kek

>That picture
If thre isn't an Akira inspired motorccle in the game I'll be very disappointed, Kaneda's bike is the most iconic thing in that movie and almost synonimous with Cyberpunk.

Fuck off and leave me alone. Fucking freaks.

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When its out, I am going to try it.

if its any good I will know then, and only then.

>Flip Floppers fag
>is retarded
Coincidence?

its almost guaranteed to be in it but apparently the IGN guys said motorcycle driving felt stiff and arcadey

I hope CDPR hired some devs who worked on vehicles and not just horses, they handle very differently

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All fucking buildings must fucking open. I don't care if they're all maintenance closets, or if they lead outside of the map and I fall to my death. Just make them accesible. It's 2019.

go Flap you'reself

pic related - it's (You)

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That's stupid, no game has an explorable "world" unless you're playing grand strategy. GTA 3 started that trend and the map is rather small.

>you'reself
either bait or literal autism

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Is this what diagnosable autism looks like?

Reminder that if you can't enter every building on the map, your game is shit.

very, what are you gonna do about it?

ask you to refrain from making stupid posts

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>If you seriously thought every building was going to have playable interiors you are a complete mouth breathing retard.
Then what's the point of this open world shit if you can't enter all buildings?

Night City is AT LEAST 100x bigger than Novigrad and that was already a gigantic endeavor.

what if I don't want to?

So what's the big deal? Did you really expect to enter every single individual little building?

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I get that FPP is not perfect. Camera placement is too low and FOVs are off. But its still closer than TPP. And in my opinion experiencing the world, at least in one way, how my character is experiencing it is much more immersive. Also HUD elements work in a FPP game like CP since they can be explained in game through implants.

>Did you really expect to enter every single individual little building?
Didn't you? Why are your expectations so low?

Kill your self, you know botw interiors are underwhelming trash and could be made by fucking anybody. Not to mention there are what, like 15 buildings in the entire game?

I enjoyed botw but don’t pretend even for a second that it was some sort of technical marvel, because it wasn’t groundbreaking in a single way.

You should follow your own suggestion, sweatie.

Did they promise that you could enter in all the buildings of that giant city?

No? So what's the problem?

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I'm not 10.

>Did they promise that you could enter in all the buildings of that giant city?
It is expected at this point in time.

I don't eat hype up like some zealot that can't contain themselves. I expected a Deus Ex Human Revolution with Witcher 3's storytelling quality, and DEHR sure as fuck didn't let you visit every single building, only quest-relevant ones. Mankind Divided 'opened things up' but we got a grand total of one divided hub and half a game as a result.

In what world is this expected?

You can't possibly be this autistic

>or Breath of the Wild where they put kokoro seeds instead

BotW has a ton of densely packed content that doesn't amount to Korok seeds. Cry harder.

I was actually spot on, Novigrad in TW3 represents a population of 30k while Night City has a population of 3 million in CP2020, that's 100x more.
CP2077 Night City is probably like 6 million or more.

>reflection of the far left pannel doesn't sync with its destruction
OH NNONONONONONONONo

>motorcycle driving felt stiff and arcadey
Damn. I had a feeling this was the case ever since I saw car handling in the 40 minute demo but I still hoped they'd pull it off somehow. What a shame.

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>you can enter every single building in Fallout 4
>you can't enter 95% of buildings in Cyberpunk

When will CDPR learn?

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>b-but we don't have the technology!
Yes we do, you fucking luddites. It's not really open world if you can't enter all buildings.

That so Todd? plenty of buildings in boston city are not enterable.

With this generation of consoles?

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Buy his fucking game.

What is the brain defect that would cause a person to think that every single one of these buildings plus tons of others would be enterable with fully detailed interiors? Like seriously just name one fucking game that has done something like that on this scale.

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>every single building enterable
>but it's post-apocalyptic so there are barely any buildings to enter
how convenient

are you retarded? No game to date has done this without severely limiting the scale of their "open world" in some way, bethesda games make a severely undersized town and loading screen the fuck out of everything for example, and the ones that don't do this have like 80% of the buildings just be very large props.

Not that guy, but they could maybe try making building interiors and apartments proceduraly generated. Sure it would take away the handcrafted feel which their games usually have, where every location is modeled by hand, but it could help in making more open spaces, at least for apartments. Since apartments in a building tend to always have the same layout regardless, they could use that to their advangave, make one apartment interior, a bunh of assets, and use the engine to proceduraly put these assets in these apartments.

It'd still me a massive task, but it would be a way to avoid having to fully model thousands of apartments by hand.

>CDPR marketers have to resort to wojaks
Pathetic, hire people to build interiors instead.

Lots of bad content is the very core of the problem of open world games in the first place.

build them yourself if you're so great

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>Only some scripted buildings are available to access
I like this, I wasted hours on The Witcher 3 entering to pointless houses to grab broken dolls and rotten leather.
A city would have 1000 times the emptyness if they allowed every single house to be accesible

You only see what your character is experiencing (fully) when you are in third person though.

Let's just agree we see differently on this, theres no way either of will convince the other.

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I'm not a major studio touting their game as "open world." Also you have to stream it now, it's mandatory.

inb4 the faggot posts the shitty webm.

It would be interesting from a conceptual standpoint but honestly procedural generation is the kind of thing that sounds more fun than it actually is.

Morrowind is still too empty, I never played Gothic, but it's very telling how you're naming two of the smallest open world games to justify them. Tells ya something. The least open "world" a game is, the better. All you're missing is New Vegas.

>>you can enter every single building in Fallout 4

The fuck are you on, Todd.
Fallout 4 had fucking hundreds of empty shell buildings you couldn't enter.

>shitty gunplay and bike riding
>now this
Well it won't be a GOTY tier game but still might turn out good. Probably won't dethrone New Vegas as my personal favorite WRPG but oh well.

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the funny thing is your pic takes place in watson district, we haven't seen anything from city central which is the largest part

>2019
>still can't enter every single interior in massive super complexes like pic related

why are videogames so fucking shitty lads

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keep saying it

Gothic has tiny villages with like 12 shacks.

Uh-uh, it also has gokoblin camps rofl

.

what is this?

Every single building there has more floor area than an entire RPG.

Dude, "open world" refers to the level of freedom of moving around AND typically refers to size as well but not always.

"Open world" just means there's not a fuckton of artificial blocks/you can go where ever you want. Having something blocked by progression doesn't suddenly make something not open world. If that was the case then GTA4 prevented you from leaving the first island before a certain mission so I guess that means it's not open world.

You're talking like someone who hasn't played video games to the point of discussing them on a Malaysian basket weaving forum.

Who needs fucking buildings when I can fly over them in my hovercar.

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of course not. I remember GTAIV and the brownstones

>New Vegas as my personal favorite WRPG
Yikes. Imagine having Obshitdian cock so far in your throat.

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I enjoyed all three Witcher games and I know that I will enjoy this since it's the same developers.

But then, I never set myself up for unrealistic expectations either, like many in this thread seem to be doing.

God I need her braaaaps in my face

>Have sex. Actually, scratch that. Don't breed
Always cringy when people really try to be insulting and go off script and improvise

I actually don't like procedurally generated shit because it feels like the lazy way out, make a bunch of assets and let the game distrubite it throught the game, I just mentioned it because it felt like the only way a game of this scale could realistically let the player enter all its interiors while not taking forever, or having a dev team of over two thousand people working overtime.

that which I will never play

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>AND typically refers to size as well but not always
Always, as far as I'm concerned. That's the whole point of the term.
>If that was the case then GTA4 prevented you from leaving the first island before a certain mission so I guess that means it's not open world.
That's why I don't define open world as "One single big area". By that definition, shit like The Witcher 3 wouldn't be open world because there's 3 different sections, and neither would be Breath of the Wild, because there's a small loading screen each time you enter or exit a shrine.

Anyway, point being that open world games are games with an humongous map (yes, this is a requirement) and non-linearity to them (another requirement)

They're also all trash, because the humongous map always means the game is shit.

It's the only obsidian game I like but nice try.
You're a literal CDPR shill and will defend everything to death though so there's no point in making any criticism here.

Imagine the absolute nightmare that would be modeling interiors for all these buildings.

>tfw can never play it myself
>want to spend hours in this little tech demo but can't play it myself
>tried my best
>would take 10 hours for the level to render
>Unity crashed
>my CPU can't handle it
>bumblefucks at Unity won't release an optimized version for people to simply play

it's not fair

but how do I get this tech demo?

>says the guy who defends Nu Vegas
It was a garbage game, dude. How delusional do you have to be for it to be your favorite?

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Nigger the amount of pop-in it has already fucking ruins it, it can't get more optimized it's already ruined by over optimization.
Try upgrading from your windows 98 machine.

>looks like more funding is needed

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Did you seriously expect all buildings to have full interiors?
What fucking for? Are you god damn insane? Retarded?

honestly, not a big fan of NV, but you are more delusional if W3 is in your top 1 than the people who put NV there

>yong thread
>no yooooooooooooooong spam in first 10 posts
Didn't realize i was on reddit.com

ROOTBOX BAD, SLITEYES GUD, DONATE MUY PAYTREEON, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG OUT

itt: people realize that not only do games not have infinite budgets, but that developing games for outdated hardware from 2013 = limitations

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When (if, rather) people finally realize that for real, the open world meme will die.

lol at all the fanboys desperate to damage control

Incel detected.

Not him, but nah. At least TW3 was it's own game while NV was just a Fallout 3 mod.

>download unity
>download unity prereqs (visual studio versions)
>download the tech demo
>wait for it to take 10 hours to load in Unity while using 99% CPU and CPU temps at 85C
>crashes inevitably
>uninstall unity
>delete the demo files

that's how

fuck off faggot, stupid jew, whats the point of a tech demo if the public can't play it?

Unity are stupid retards, they really don't get it.

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HEY GUYS, LET'S MODEL INTERIORS FOR BUILDINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL NEVER ENTER!

yes, a F3 mod is still better than your checklist simulator.

I'm listening, that should be fun

They're already roads and floors for streets that most people won't explore and will just drive by, so why not?

make game

link it?

www.lemonparty.org

>tfw know jap
>tfw can read every jap ad and listen to every jap line in the game just fine

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>checklist simulator.
That describes New Vegas perfectly.

It's Unity, the demos are highly customized versions of the engine and aren't meant for games, it's just to wow retards into paying for more assets.

it's a city that takes 10 minutes to drive through
are you really this fucking out of touch?

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>it's a city that takes 10 minutes to drive through
Source?

Sauce on that.

It's supposed to look like the 80's AF version of the future kinda like pic related.

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Yeah that's why TPP > GZ. Not.

>HEY LET'S SHILL FOR A GAME COMPANY THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM OR CARE ABOUT ME IN A MY WAY SHAPE OR FORM BECAUSE I DO IT FOR FREE

What open world game set in a city lets you enter all of the buildings?

good. now imagine that but 10 times worse. that's witcher 3

>100 dungeons with identical wall textures
lol. I thought the Nintendo babby shit was just a meme

>STOP ENJOYING THINGS REEEEEE

Honestly not that big of a challenge. Creating something using procedural generation is a common practice in gamedev.

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i bet you do it for free

Holy fuck is voice is cool

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there isn't any, and thats why people resort to mentioning gothic or morrowind

>n-no u!
Amazing counter argument.

Are you saying he's breathtaking?

>And CDPR isn't planning on censoring PS4 version
I don't think what cdpr wants is releveant
They will go a lot easier on them since they aren't Japanese but I am expecting something will get censored.

>because it's neither hard to do nor technologically hard to do

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he's actually breathing pretty hard

Summer has come, and with it this 12 year old insult.

Come on now.

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There's liking something and having a perspective and then there's spamming a thread with strawman posts to damage control an interview for absolutely no reason.

Well it doesn't. It looks like a zoomer's idea of the 80s futuristic aesthetic.

what do you mean? THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME has you checking off marks from your list by following red trails, and the map is littered with generic chests.

I started this argument precisely because I knew you are a rabid W3 fanboy and you've proven it, New Vegas is shit too but you W3 bitches are more annoying

And no it's not a good game because you wanked to Ciri, you stupid redditor

open world games have two ways they can approach this
>be sparse with it's buildings, often vacant of meaningful content, but both immersive for it's interactivity but also immersion-breaking with how few buildings there actually are
>only work on meaningful content-filled buildings and leave the rest as just backdrops and eye-candy. Immersion-breaking but more often than not more entertaining.

some games manage to do it better by having decent reasons for few buildings, such as being small villages of only a dozen or so people, like Breath of the Wild.

tldr; both are fine it's just preference if anything. The only reason this is brought up as a negative is because the game is very popular and Yea Forums is just doing it's thing

cyberpunk is going to be shit. its more open world shit with no substance

>spamming a thread with strawman posts
Ironic

You mean, in the same way than in Witcher 3?
How surprising.

But that's a flat-out lie, as the people of post-apocalyptic Boston unanimously decided to board up all the pre-war buildings. Wouldn't want people walking inside and getting hurt, would we? :)

the most immersive way to play is having a first person camera on a full body model akin to fear and arx fatalis.

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yeah that's a hell of a lot better than just a floating arm and gun

The Darkness got this too. I recommend it if you have a 360 or ps3

I do beleive CDprojectred have said you'll be able to see your feet when you look down.

Nobody wants to play linear corridor walking simulators anymore boomer. And go back to your shitty isometric, turn-based rpgs from the 90’s.

Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever made, and the best game it is possible to make.

good
doing shit like in gta completely ruins the game.

look how much better yakuza is when you can fight only when it makes sense

it's from "Creating Cyberpunk 2077" or some such video from early May
I will paraphrase what dev said
>when you're on foot, it's huge, but when you're in a car it's 10 minutes, how do you balance that?

>will think the game is fully immersive and every building can be entered etc
Since when is this a fucking standard? Also what kind of fucking city doesn't have door locks?

is there any mod that adds door bashing to the base game? that was the best feature of extraction point and it makes the base game feel kinda slow without it.

I'm glad they at least dropped any pretense of this being an RPG. Hopefully it ends up being fun.

Also also,
>I'd rather play a map that was smaller in scale with plenty enterable interiors
This shit is self-defeating. The benefit of smaller maps is less copy/pasting bloat, and every building being enterable just leads to copy/pasting bloat.

If you expected anything other than Wide as an ocean Deep as a puddle from CDProjekt then you haven't been paying attention.

I better be able to see my tits too.

This guy is a fucking clown and cannot interview for shit

Unsubscribe from Yong yea you fucking retards

t. lootbox

Daggerfall is procedurally generated trash.

That's actually not bad, Los Santos in GTAV feels huge when you're on foot but you can speed across it in a car in a couple of minutes.

youtube.com/watch?v=hZeuG7jI9mE&t=180s
He never said the world of Cyberpunk is that big, he was talking about open world in general.

But where else am I going to be able to listen to a news article read out loud by a robot?

shhhhh

lmfao shills BTFO again

That I do not know

youtube keeps recommending this guy even if you're unsubscribed.

its pretty well known that Keanu typically doesn't demand tons of money for roles, I think for the john wick he only asked for around 2.5 million, even when 3 came out I believe he only asked for a mere 2 million outta a 250 million dollar opening weekend.
Hes a great guy who doesn't take a ton of money for interesting roles.

>Only some scripted buildings are available to access.
why are you surprised
did you actually think you could just walk into any building

>Well would you prefer skyrim's 10 building capitals?

That's better than the 5 that the story lets you go in when you're told to go in.

>I only play "dense" "hub world" games for dense retards like myself

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Eh, I wanted a GTA game set in the future for a while, so I guess I'll settle for this. Witcher 3 was pretty shit though but at least this is a FPS. Not sure if I appreciate all the shilling though, may, or may not buy it based on how aggressive it gets

>CDPR isn't planning on censoring PS4 version
>isn't planning on
That's not for them to decide though

Seething open world nigger spotted

>Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
>sets you in a moderate sized city
>can go in nearly every single house and building
>can even break into your neighbors

>Cyberpunk 2077
>9 years in the making
>only allowed to go into houses during story missions or scripted events

LOL, once again Deus Ex is the superior cyberpunk game.

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what a shallow game

Why did you feel the need to use a screenshot of patreon article reader man

>can go in nearly every single house and building
You can't even go into half of buildings that are in the game, retard. And that's considering how small the hubworld actually is.
Have you even played it?

>>can go in nearly every single house and building
This isn't even close to being true and you know it

>nuSesuex is boring "racisms is a bad okay" bullshit
>Cyberpunk is shaping to be GTA clone
When will I get somewhat new AAA Cyberpunk for fuck's sake

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I've played the game. You can't shitpost your way out of this. You could go into all of the apartment buildings around you and across the city. You had plenty of buildings you could go in and it wasn't restricted to scripted events.

CDPR said that they wanted to be more like Rockstar (GTA). Why didn't you see this coming? GTA is the same way, a giant open world where you can't go in 99% of the shit.

Yeah that's called game design in an urban area. Literally every single urban game since the dawn of time has had buildings you can't enter.
What a retarded thread.

But you can't. You can go into maybe half a dozen apartment buildings, and explore a handful of floors in each one, with the other stairs down or up conveniently blocked by garbage cans.

That city wasn't anything approaching "large" either.

Still more than what we're bound to get in Cyberpunk.

Put more effort into your shitposting please.

cope

SEETHING

Source?

>s-seething!
Dilate, trancel.

>trancel
nice I'll be using that

How big is the cyberpunk 2077 world? I heard it's 6 districts, but is there any indication of the size?

like 8 inches

Join the 40% and off yourself seething tranny.

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10 minutes

About tree fiddy

>mere 2 million
It baffles my mind how most of the top actors get paid 10+ million per movie and still manage to go nearly broke. What kind of shithead of person do have to be to burn through that much money?