How are

This is the only character I can even hope to think of to still want in. I hope you get your day raybro.

Thanks Raybro. If its any consolation, Rayman was my second most wanted after the bear and bird. I'm sure he'll get in someday, and there will be less shitposting here since Banjo irrevocably destroyed any "argument" presented against him poated here in the last year.

>the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer
I think Lucas' DLC trailer was better but maybe you don't want to count it because he was wasn't a newcomer

>Weeaboos
They're fine, they have Erdrick.
If they were asking for social acknowledgment, they wouldn't be weebs in the first place anyway.

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what if im a weeb who also wanted banjo

erdick is based
banjo is based too
but its good seeing retards get triggered over basedrick

>but they have easily the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer?

Sonic on merit of existing, Mega Man on actual best fanservice trailer.

oh no no NOOO ohoho.... UHUHUHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

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See I'm happy but I genuinely hate rosterfaggotry. Can we get better online now?

what's the best version of DQ3

Doomguy should be in Smash

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His a western made and published character.

can this japan dislikes banjo meme die please
3rd highst selling western game of all time in Japan, and a higher percentage of japan N64 owners bought a copy of banjo than NA

ah yes, the ever-changing rules of getting into Smash

Conker should be in Smash

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Weeb here and the reveal trailer won me over. I wasn't vehemently opposed to him or anything, just felt like he didn't belong in Smash, but he definitely fits right in.

Based bear and bird

But ridley had best trailer, IF ONLY HE WEREN'T SHIT AT GAME

Honestly disappointing thing will probably be the moveset. Grenade egg seems likes it's basically Diddy Kong's Down Special and I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to do that, I mean Luminary is Link + Robin but with added menu spells thing.

That wasn't what I meant. I meant people who were saying western characters would never be in Smash.

It's stil baffling this irrelevant piece of shit got in while actual iconic characters like Bomberman only gets to be an assist trophy. He was the first third-party in the game to be featured in a crossover with another Nintendo character mind you

SNES version with the translation patch

>this probably deconfirms steve too

Feels good.

>Relevancyfags
I can't believe these retards still existed after K Rool managed to get in. How dumb do you have to be?

ah my bad mate. been hearing the japan hates banjo shit for months now, and how nips would be SEETHING if he got it. any excuse to shitpost i guess

Doomguy would be fucking awesome, and I'm totally down for him, but Doom has like, 0 relevance in Japan. I don't even know if it's come out there.

Even on the flip side, Lucas, a character who literally doesn't have a western made game, at least is part of a series that already has games released. Doomguy would have little chance, and that makes me mad as hell. He'd be sick.

>only characters from IPs older than or ones created around the same time as Banjo are shown in the trailer
>the one exception is Inkling/Fighter 64
>not a single anime swordsman
absolutely based

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I think it kind of popped back up because of the whole "Nintendo chose the DLC" thing. People just assumed that because they're making the choices, they'd probably be making choices based on relevancy and money and shit like that, and not fan hype (when that is exactly the kind of shit they want to buy into).

If they wanted to please fans, why did they make Bomberman an AT?

>I need to remind everyone that nobody cares so that everyone can stop caring
Read this back to yourself out loud 5 times...

I agree Bomberman should've been playable but Banjo had a ton of hype and support behind him. Of course Nintendo wants to tap into that, you realize how good of press it'd be to put Banjo in after all the hype towards him?

Bomberman was popular, but I doubt he had nearly the amount of support characters like Banjo did. I would've wanted him though. That shit still breaks my heart.

Plus maybe they just couldn't think of a good moveset, as dumb as that is.

>the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer
Simon and Richter still hold that title.

Surprised but not mad because my Dragon Quest boy made it in first. Believe me, I would be nuclear right now if only Banjo was announced.

Doom does get Japanese localizations, yes.

That’s not the worst reuse of assets, though. The crouching egg shot matches up fairly well with Diddy’s down B.

He'll be in someday, I hope

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I'm extra pissy because everyone everywhere Is commenting on the dragon quest announcement "thank god banjo appeared to make up for this XD"
I want to fucking murder all zoomers.

I mean all of the newcomer trailers so far have been good for Ultimate, even managing to make a less stellar addition like Incineroar seem cool. I think that the Castlevania trailer in general was way more fanservicey for sure and wish more trailers used that crossover idea. Luigi's Mansion and Castlevania mashed together is a perfect tonal fit for Smash. which is why Travis needs to monologue about facing a legendary fighter, only for it to be Pikachu Libre

I didn't realize, my mistake. Boosts his chances a little then, but I still think it's heavily unlikely.

I'd fucking love to eat my words, though. I fucking want Rayman though when's Rayman FUCK YOU UBISOFT I'M NOT MAD

>watch a bunch of reactions
>OH IT'S GOKU

God damn it.

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>NOOOOOO WHY ISN'T EVERYONE HYPED FOR MY GENERIC ANIME SWORDSMAN???
Imagine caring about some Goku knockoff who doesn't even have an official name.

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Yea Forums was at its best when they were revealed and everyone was celebrating in the sticky. There were no contrarian fags, no baiting fags. Yea Forums has gone back to being shit.

>frogposter
FUCKING clockwork

Ah, yes, Bomberman, and his iconic moveset. His Side Smash could be putting a bomb in front of him! And his B could be throwing a bomb! His side B could be throwing a bomb slightly further! For hia final smash, a cutscene of him placing a bomb on the floor is played. Haha, yes!

>tfw you have to watch Japanese reaction videos to see any sort of hype for The Hero at all
Its pretty depressing.

Cereal mascotfags deserve death

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t. hasn't played a Bomberman game

Neck yourself zoomer imagine still talking about moveset when characters like, Duck Hunt, Plant, WFT, Pac-Man, etc. are in.

>jiggy bounces in Banjo's reveal
>OH SHIT SON WAS THAT A PUZZLE/JIGSAW

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earthworm jim would be a good addition lol kys zoomie

I love that this image is filled with actual great picks though.
Also >TJ&E when they literally got a revival this year

looks like they deserve to be playable in smash, apparently :)

>end of the trailer
>jigsaw pieces cover up the other smashers
>linger on b+k before being covered
>they were the last pieces to complete smash

The only fossil I see here is a faggot still pushing MUH RELEVANCY fanrules.

You forgot about discordfags
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c

plenty of people care about this actually

>generic

Motherfucker you can't call something generic if it invented the whole genre.

>expecting anyone outside of Japan to care about YET ANOTHER anime swordfighter
The rest of the world has taste, dumb weeb. You will never be japanese

Japan loves Banjo Kazooie, idk why people think otherwise:

youtube.com/watch?v=xCADfAo39ak

>he doest want to play as sparkster, plok, or buck bumble

Nerd.

I'd rather have a Dragonborn Mii costume and Doomguy as the fighter.

Based and OUCH!

>OMG YAAAAAS BANJO! I ONLY KNOW ABOUT THE GAMES THROUGH E-CELEBS WHO PANDER TO 9 YEAR OLDS SUCH AS MYSELF BUT YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSS!!!!!
die

go back to resetera you faggot tranny

>All these Seethy Stevies
Come on, guys. It's over, you lost. No need to keep embarrassing yourselves.

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based raymanbro

>tfw The Hero is the only "anime swordsman" I've ever genuinely been hyped for

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>THERE R NO ROOLS ANYMORE!!!!1
All of the dlc so far has been popular third parties. Stop posting your never ever literally whos.

Hero looks fucking fun as hell. I get why people are mad but they can stay mad. Looks fun as hell.

I'm just curious if there's going to be multiple spells for each special or not.

Don't care for DQ, but I'm genuinely curious how his spells are gonna work. It looked like he had a lot of them. I mean, A LOT.

But I never cared about steve. I'm happy that Erdrick got in.
I'm indifferent about Banjo, never played the games, but the general reaction from him has been embarrassing to watch, so much fucking s(o)y.

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I played Bomberman and the N64 game where he has an egg that follows him
Stay mad and not in Smash tho xD

weebs got dragon quest tho?

I was upset for roughly one minute and then I was like this is kind of cool.

Yeah, sorry that I wasn't one out of the 10k people who played fucking Dragon Quest as a kid. Literally only tryhard weebs care this much about the series.

There are no hard rules anymore, but they're still not going to add total literal whos, like for example the Cheetahmen.

>you're a tryhard if you like thing that I don't

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Post more pls
I wanna see jp boys reacting to bear & bird

Just give me Doomguy.
youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7JYoRhDfA
youtube.com/watch?v=M5YIfT9Yx48

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I was reading through NoJ's Twitter and the replies to the Banjo tweets to see what Japan's reaction was. From what I could understand with Google Translate, at least 90% of them were extremely positive - mostly older fans talking about how nostalgic they were for the games, and a lot of requests for Switch remakes/ports of the first two. There was this one Tweet with over 18K likes explaining to younger people the history of the series/Rare and why older fans were really excited to see them return - the Japanese Banjo trailer was released with the message "Welcome Home", which hit a lot of them in the nostalgia. Also, I assume Na-Ha is how they hear Guh-huh.

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> XD
Kill yourself zoomer

By not playing shit games in the first place.

U mad bro?

akuma when

If Rayman ever makes it in. I hope they'll use 3's design. It fits the game the most.

youtube.com/watch?v=SshUFko-mLY

>whispering so his mom doesn't hear him

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ZOOOOOOOM

cringe

They'd go with the original design and with an Eternal skin, right? Maybe the N64 one, too, since it'd be appropriate.

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>but they have easily the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer?
Joker's reveal was better though.

out of literally hundreds of pngs, I like that my wife was chosen as the thumbnail for the gif.

>HD Remakes
God, this needs to happen so bad it's not even funny. It'd be a MASSIVE missed opportunity not to at least announce them before he's released in Smash.

>t. never had a childhood

3 was never released in Japan so that's unlikely

Problem?

You forgot
>"le epic salt XD" fags
>"I clapped when I saw Plant because it subverted my expectations" hipsters
You might consider them a type of contrarian, but I think they've shitposted plenty to earn their own mentions.
I'm not gonna lie, I groaned at first because "oh boy here comes another Link/FE". But I've really warmed to the idea since (although maybe Banjo has just put me in a good and receptive enough mood). His menu and Mana system is such a fun mechanic to see, the Hero designs all distinctively colored and designed (something FE's reps absolutely shit the bed on), and he represents an older and far more significant part of JRPG history than FE.

Even if Hero indeed has clear nods to moves from FE fighters (and even Link), it's not DQ's fault that FE horned in with a preposterous amount of samey swordies in Smash first.

YOU WERE NOT A CHILD
YOU RETROACTIVELY DID NOT EXIST

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>it's not DQ's fault that FE horned in with a preposterous amount of samey swordies in Smash first.
This people seem to think that FE poisioning the well means that no other franchise that features swordsman should be allowed representation.
God I fucking hope they cut some FE Characters next game

Pretty much this His trophy model, if they were to use it, even resembles his current look, so that's likely what they would go for unless they altered it to look like 3

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They're coping by shilling for shit like Doomguy and Reimu

Exactly my opinion except i'm indifferent to dragon quest rep as well.

I tried playing Banjo Kazooie and it literally felt like playing a disney game, even the start of it is a rip off snow white.

>MY CHILDHOOD GOOD
>YOUR CHILDHOOD BAD

Manchildren need to grow the fuck up and act like adults.

Ever since banjo was announced, i stopped believing any argument about relevancy and "literally who". As long as a bunch of people want a character, he'll be in eventually
I even think Geno has a shot, now that people want him so much

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Doesn't matter since he's fucking leaps more relevant than fucking Gatornigger

Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.

Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.

>inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt
Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits about literal who the gator

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Even if the character hasn't' had a release in Japan?

Agreed, these fuckers are so annoying

why are all krool fags like this?

You been getting rocked by K Rool's Online champ?

coping is a krool thing user

I'm still holding out hope for Geno. Don't personally care for any of the characters people are hype about but its pretty cool that so many people were hyped with k.rool, banjo etc.

But banjo is not a literally who

Back to your discord.

>best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer
>literal copy paste K.Rool's

Enjoy paying for your dlc shill.

> Series got outsold by Gex of all things
> Dead for decades
Yeah sure

*anti

Is it just me or were people more hype for him than Banjo?

Retards and only retards were hyped for Gatornigger

Geno is my absolute least wanted character.

I would seriously prefer Steve, Ashley and Bandana Dee getting in over him and that says a lot.

Doom has a PC-98 port called 3D Alien Buster or something, it's adorable

You already know who's next

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Doom guy would be so cool but I can see him not getting in as his games are too violent/gory.

>based bear & bird have cleared the way for a ton of other western characters.

Diddy Kong? K Rool? Dark Samus?

>act like an adult
>like me, throwing an e-tantrum about people being excited over a video game
okay champ

AHAHAHAHAHAH FAGGOT I TOLD YOU I'D SAVE YOUR POST TO LAUGH AT YOU SEETHING FAGGOT KYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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Doom definitely has a following there, but I admit it's kind of a niche thing. It has at least one community mapset made in Japan, though, so that's something.

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>Looks at Bayonetta

Joanna should be in smash

Who?

t. Seething retard who thinks his literally who has a chance because one of the most popular and requested characters got in

Geno is my most wanted but with 2 SE reps already I just don’t see it happening. The only thing that gives me a little hope is that for Hero SE let Nintendo use 4 characters, which is insane compared to how stingy they were with Cloud. Does anyone know how much DQ music there is?

>Still seething 10 months later

>Muh discord

Geno has already been deconfirmed sweetie. you are the one who is seething

it might be but bk is still targeted towards western people

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That is literally what you're parents would have said. Grow the fuck up instead of living in the past. Life is not a video game.

She doesn't rip demon's heads off and swim around in organs.

I almost feel like this is ironic with how well it's set up. It's galaxy level bait.

>these are the sort people who wanted to keep him out

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It's better than what I thought. I'd absolutely fucking love Doomguy, but I do think it's probably not happening. Would be nice, but realistically we'd get Dragonborn or some shit.

Meanwhile in Japan....

twitter.com/DeathETM/status/1138524122059804672?s=19

>he thinks that spirits deconfirms characters
do I need to remind you that mewtwo was a trophy first before he became DLC?

>ITT: People surprised that character with incredible amount of support and hype got in because they didn't think Nintendo wasn't retarded and didn't want good press by putting Banjo in

Oh I agree he’s never getting in but you’re still a discord tranny.

>But they have easily the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer?

>Literal K. Rool trailer rehash

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Just remove all the clones and echoes. Marth/Ike/Robin/Corrin is a decent lineup.

Kirby is already in retard

DUDE A POPULAR REQUESTED CHARACTER GOT IN THAT MEANS THERE ARE NO RULES ANYMORE PERSONALLY I BELIEVE THE NEXT DLC WILL BE LITERALLYWHO MAN

You're right. Shes just rips them in half with sexual torture devices made from her hair that's ALSO her clothes witch reveal her naked body. But you're right, doomguy has icky blood in it so it never has a chance

>jiggy bounces by
>no reaction or "who is this?"

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Spirits are not like trophy's.

They simply switched mewtwo's trophy with a new one.

Also do I need to remind you square already got a dlc?

I'd say maybe keep Roy just for popularity's sake, that and he's kind of unique enough. But I agree with this, it'd be a good lineup and represent different games well.

>Doom marine's reveal trailer has him attempt to execute Bowser by punching a hole through his stomach
>Bowser just goes flying away and dies in a Star KO
>after an awkward pause, the Doom marine just shrugs and goes back to fighting

>All these grown men not recognizing the jiggy
>Gumball's zoomer VA recognizes it instantly
Why?

>"who's relevant now motherfuckers?"
Based. Definitely what I'll say when Isaac gets in

This shit is why shaggy and Waluigi will be in the nexty smash.

God damn faggots

That's fair. If there's any clone I'd keep, it's Roy.

t. discord tranny

>suggesting to keep Corrin in the damn game
It's like you hate Smash Bros

youtu.be/i-zite5DJVQ?t=136
>inb4 it's not in as much detail!

Somehow the cutest thing ever.

Banjo is an old Nintendo character who helped carry the N64 and was supposed to be in the other Smash games. This was inevitable and isn't driven primary by muh PR.

>Setup the DK crew and K. Rool, the only characters on the roster that have a connection to Banjo
>Tease people that have been waiting 20 years with a Jiggg, but not actually showing it from the front, so there's still an iota of doubt
>The Duck Hunt fakeout to callback to K. Rool's trailer, btfo retards that thought he'd be a Duck Hunt clone, and to keep the desperate Banjo fans holding on
>That GORGEOUS design reveal
>K. Rool, DK, and Diddy reacting exactly like the viewer
>Grant Kirkhope returns
>Those animations
>That stage
>B-K Talon Trotting past all the vets, impatient to finally get into action after all this time, accompanied by that musical buildup
>They play 1:1 like they do in their games like Mega Man
>That K. Rool Grunty reference
>Sakurai captures their triumphant return without losing a SHRED of the goofiness of their character
>That splash screen of the cast welcoming them back
It was kino.

>I dont like thing! I have to tell world I dont like thing! That will make them change their mind!
retard

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Honestly I still do think relevancy kinda matters. Sakurai DID say that characters with no future are rarely choosen, after all.

We all like to focus on BK and K. Rool getting in but we also ignore the fact that characters like Isaac or Takamaru or Krystal can only barely scrap on by with assist trophies. The former two made it inspite of their irrelevance because of how huge their fanbases were and how historically significant they are, K. Rool being a major villain in a long running Nintendo series and Banjo and Kazooie being the protagonists of beloved platformers games that were among the cornerstones of the N64 library.

Basically in other words, if you're somebody who's been missing for awhile, you're gonna need a really fucking good case to get in. Basically all the "irrelevant" characters Sakurai's added over the years (Banjo, K. Rool, R.O.B, Duck Hunt, etc) meet that criteria. Someone like Isaac on the other hand, probably doesn't.

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>Coping with the fact that not only are Banjo and Kazooie IN, but they have easily the best and most fanservicey newcomer trailer?
Of all newcomer trailers this is the most shitty by far, literally rehash of K rool with fanservice
It's like when Banjofags make shitty fanfiction trailers with celebration and welcome home themes

What about it won you over?

>I can't believe a reunion is a reunion
Seethey stevey

Jesus christ that is more views for the JP DQ trailer than the western ones for DQ and BK

Japan was sleeping when DQ was announced, its natural for the video to be viewed a whole lot more.

I'm just satisfied that both sides got what they wanted.

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>even fucking ETIKA was anti-hype about Dragon Quest Hero reveal
What the fuck, lads. Why is everyone hating on my boys so hard?

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well i mean, right place, wrong time

The best trailer is still the Captain Falcon reveal trailer from Smash 4. The best newcomer pun, even thought I hate the character and think he's too big, is Ridley with "hits the big time." "Are Raring to go" is a high tier pun, though, I'll give you that.

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Relevancyfag here.

The argument is not that the character must be relevant RIGHT NOW. It's that they must have been particularly important and/or popular at least in some point during nintendo/gaming history. Shit like Geno and Isaac were never actually relevant or known in the gaming industry in general UNLIKE K ROOL AND BANJO. Fucking Wii Fit Trainer and Duck Hunt are legitimately more popular and known than Geno, Isaac, etc.

Have a good day.

Fuck 'em, they got in, all these faggots bitching can't take that away.

>Etika is literally a bad strawman comic IRL

It's a good pick but there were grown men on twitter harassing people because they think Banjo should be in Smash. Just a little irritating they get what they want after acting like little kids.

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wow, someone with common sense

Fuck relevancy as being a high priority. Almost none of the first party picks for 4 were good because of this.

It really shows how cynical most people are when they immediately assume Nintendo was going to go the route of biggest sales instead of biggest fan satisfaction. The Hero may have been the hardest to get due to Squeenix and Banjo may have been the least "profitable", yet Nintendo went through with it anyway! Look how its paying off now, people are more hype than ever!

God, Etika’s such a faggot

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For sure, I'm not saying PR was the only reason this happened. Banjo absolutely deserved this slot.

But it sure fucking helped, I'd argue.

You're definitely right but to be fair there was a lot of retarded goal post moving for awhile.

People shit on K. Rool because he was "irrelevant". Then he gets and everyone start pulling for Banjo, and then people shit on Banjo by saing "uh, his SERIES is irrelevant".

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Explain Fire Emblem then.

Waluigi is a big maybe, I could see them throwing the bone but also I doubt it.

Don't know why the fuck you said Shaggy though. But he'd be sick.

I wonder where the goalpost will be moved next to conveniently be out of reach for whatever character people want.

Fire Emblem was always very popular in Japan, wasn't it?

Anti-Banjo fags were never anything more than pathetic people in denial.
There was never a question as to weather Banjo deserved to be in or not. These people were delusional and blinded by their ignorance or their misguided fanboy loyalty towards another series.
Banjo practically defines the N64 era right alongside Mario 64 and Zelda OOT.
It was a thousand times more relevant than most series added to the game and Banjo himself always deserved to be in way more than almost every character added after melee with only a few exceptions.
He certainly deserved it more than any third party in the world.
The only barrier was the licensing issue and somehow Nintendo finally succeeded.
True Nintendo fans will appreciate what a miracle this is. Banjo might belong to Microsoft but his true home was always alongside the Nintendo All Stars and how he's finally home.

It’s only a matter of time my Raynigga, hang in there

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I haven't even keeping track of rosterfagging but who the fuck would be upset over Bear and Bird? Rare was the core part of the N64 (don't @ me I'm right) and they was the best choice of reps from that era

>Etika literally says "I DON'T EVEN KNOW THESE NIGGAS!" but continues to go apeshit over them just to play up his audience

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Dragon Quest just never took off here, other JRPGs took it's place. It's unfortunate, but it's how it is.

Also most Smash fans just hate sword characters, since they hate Fire Emblem, and in their brains swords = Fire Emblem.

>Relevancyfag here.

>I can't enjoy a character's inclusion if they're added more than a week after their games launch

because unless you've played the games they're all incredibly generic JRPG protags with swords, which Smash already has in droves

>tfw watching some Japanese react to Banjo-Kazooie
Damn they must be pretty popular over there, feels good

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It's a Nintendo crossover first and foremost

It absolutely was. It's where the series was for years, which helps.

I have no idea why the fuck people are acting like DQ Heroes were a waste of a slot. I feel like having them and Banjo BOTH revealed was the best possible outcome, even if I wanted Sora and Banjo more. Dragon Quest fucking deserves it. Japanese twitter was blowing the fuck up about it.

There isn't a single FE game in Japans top 100 selling games. This was always a meme excuse from fe apologists.

Rayman and Crash deserve to be in.

Yes because Fire Emblem was totally relevant outside of Japan before Melee, and Kid Icarus was totally relevant at all before Brawl. If anything, Microsoft and Rare probably begged Jewtendo to put Banjo into Smash as a marketing ploy for Banjo Threeie.

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They look nothing like the overabundance of FE characters.

People don't hate anime characters with swords. They hate Fire Emblem characters with swords.
Were you mad about Cloud? He uses a sword and is a JRPG protag.

It's funny how skins for a toriyama character, an artist often criticized for homogeneous designs have overall more variety in their designs than the FE characters.

Honestly Fire Emblem's just been really lucky. It's had games come just at the right time for each new Smash installment.

I will maintain that FE's representation isn't as bad when you consider that there's technically only four fully unique characters, which isn't so bad for a long running series with 14+ games. It's just that Roy was added in as a cheap clone in Melee and was thus grandfathered into Smash, and Lucina and Chrom were both echo fighters that took even less time to develop.

That doesn't mean it doesn't at least sell well.

Crash yes, but Rayman basically doesn't exist in Japan, so he'll probably never be anything more than a trophy or spirit.

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>Dragon Quest originated JRPGs, popularized a lot of the things we see from it today, even in some regard it's artstyle
>Fire Emblem is one of these games, and everybody hates Fire Emblem characters in Smash
>Character who inspired said game/artstyle gets into Smash, obviously looks similar
>OMG ITS A FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTER, because they've never played anything outside of Smash

>if you completely ignore 3 of my characters, then FE ONLY still has more than every franchise other than Mario and pokemon

Poor fe fans......

> Stop being exited over thing!

Son, I've waited 10 years for this day. I'm celebrating weather you like it or not.

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>rayman basically doesn't exist in Japan, meaning his chances are basically gone

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

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There's a difference between "popular in Japan" and selling well. Every other franchise might not even get a single character for only selling "well"

Not only that, but I feel like I didn't even watch the same trailer as these people. I've never even played Dragon Quest aside from 9, but not only do all four protags that got added look fucking great and varied, but their moveset looks super fucking unique.

you're right, they don't, but they look just as generic as FE characters even if they don't look similar

That's the joke, user.

i still cant believe this is real. look at how fucking beautiful he is

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I like Banjo but let's not overrate Banjo either. Splatoon's two games have sold more than the entire Banjo series combined.

They looked extremely generic until we saw the multiple spells(most of which are generic when you look at them in a vacuum) And being unique isn't a feature, it's the bare minimum

Problem is, there’s no longer a unanimously wanted character anymore. Banjo was the last one.

I think he'll only have an Eternal skin and a classic skin. Probably no arm blade to keep it consistant.

I'm sick of the whole "they're borrowing animations from Link!" thing. One fucking move was the same as one Link moved, and suddenly he invented jump slashes.

It's hard to make a jump slash look unique.

Isaac and Geno

the only skin I will ever use, eight is one of my favorite ever games

They also already outsold FEs entirety but the smash community still pretends FE is just as popular as mario.

>Fire emblem is not overrepresented because muh clones
I'm tired of this excuse. Why don't other series also get a disproportionate amount of clones like fire emblem? Where's my shulk clone?

DQ8 protag honestly got me more hyped for Hero than anything else. I fucking love that game, it's the only DQ I've played but it gave me a lot of respect for the series.

He was more popular in the rosterfag scene and he was pre-launch

Steve would’ve been cool

So what makes BK’s moveset unique?

Splatoon is also from an era where gaming is like 10x larger. Banjo’s sales for their time were insanely good. Both series parallel each other a lot in terms of their success.

It's funny because :muh comes don't count so you can't criticize fe" posters will tell you whatever clone you'd suggest would ruin the entire game.

What's ironic is that we got all four Dragon Quest games in the US for NES. We only got one of the Final Fantasy games and missed out entirely on Fire Emblem and MegaTen.

I'm sorry, Geno's just a fucking weird pick for a character.

At least K. Rool and Ridley are reoccuring villains and BK as well as Isaac are main protagonists, Geno's just a supporting character who appeared in literally one RPG spinoff two decades ago.

The closest to him on the roster would probably be Sheik, a one-off character with a unique moveset, but even she has the technicality of being the alter ego of Zelda and ergo wouldn't of been included in Melee if transformations weren't a thing.

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doesn't she essentially rape enemies with hair tentacles?

Listen here motherfucker. Actually use your brain and look at the release date of the first DQ game. Now look at other JRPG franchises. Mother and Pokemon were based off of DQ. It's literally the father of JRPGs. It looks generic because many other games used ideas from it.

I hate anime characters with swords and I know I'm not the only one, you know what their normal attacks are going to be before you even see them
Cloud was alright until I actually played against him in sm4sh and saw how generous his limit break was

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Better pick than Palutena.

>sullorying character that no one asked for from a game no one has played

>a one-off character with a unique moveset,

meant "one-off SUPPORTING character", sorry

They don't look generic at all. There is literally nobody else in the roster who has been designed by Akira Toriyama.

>UNLIKE K ROOL AND BANJO
2 days later and discord Stevie’s are already pretending they knew Banjo has a foot in the door the whole time
Yeah everyone is just going to forget about the 700 treads you faggots about how irrelevant Banjo is. We’re also going to forget about how you claimed no one played BK.
When they run out of excuses their final trump card is to just tell you that you haven’t played the game in question and therefore your opinion doesn’t matter. They’re one of the most bizarr things to ever happen to this board, which is saying a lot.

I personally am still hopeful for Sora, Travis, Phoenix, or Dante, but I'm MORE than okay with the current roster as Banjo and Joker were both some of my most wanted characters.

Unanimous.

Isaac and Geno are both more like niche picks, and all the best parts of Isaac are outdone by Yuusha. The fact that he’s AT again should tell Isaac fans all they need to know: he’s literally never getting in. He doesn’t define anything, and is one of the dozens of Nintendo IP that have died and faded, like Sin and Punishment, and Advance Wars.

Geno is a different story, but still somewhat niche too.

No, he wouldn't have, terrible moveset and would look terrible in smash.

This. When comparing sales you have to remember the smaller install base older games had. If you just look at the numbers in a vacuum even top-sellers will look like they sold poorly next to current releases.

For all the hype and joy Banjo-kazooie brought with their reveal, these faggots want to take all that away. It makes me so happy to see these fun-hating losers cry and seethe.

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I think you might be next actually. With the strong Ubisoft relationship Nintendo has. Either thar or Rabbids

God fucking knows what the last one could be though. I can't think of any other Nintendo partners.

Doomguy has a lot of support.

People that actually paid attention should realize how crazy their special move mana system is

Palutena's at least been in more than one game, even though she didn't really get to shine until Uprising.

Also unlike Geno, she was new and 'relevant' when Smash 4 started development, considering Sakurai started planning it right after KI Uprising launched.

Relevancyfags were the lowest of the low. When they die are go to Hell, they will be reduced to fleas living on the Stevefag rats.

One can only hope. Hope has just lead me to disappointment over the years though.

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>because unless you've played the games they're all incredibly generic JRPG protags with swords
The fucking game can detect whether or not you've played Dragon Quest? Holy fuck.

I understand that completely and I get that they objectively deserve to be in smash but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it
If their down B is a counter it'll be even worse, even if all the other swordies with counters only have them because DQ did it first it makes the characters less unique

All of those fall in the “would be cool” category, similar to Joker. But none’s absence from Smash feels like an incomplete roster from the greatest crossover in gaming. I can’t think of a single IP significant to Gaming AND Nintendo, that’s missing really.

>Palutena's at least been in more than one game, even though she didn't really get to shine until Uprising.

Only technically but not practically. There's no kid icarus content that isn't from uprising in smash. Those first two games might as well don't exist.

>muh relevancy

Thinking that matters when were still getting superstar content lmao

>muh relevancy
I thought we had finally gotten past this. To be clear I don’t think Geno will get in at this point but reevancyfags need to die now more than they didn’t before.

Doomguy is coming, I feel it in my bones.

Oh, I feel the exact same way honestly. If the Fighter's Pass ended after Banjo, I would still feel like Ultimate's roster was more than perfect.

Palutena is the worst

It’s not the same thing. He’s not s character that’s been longed for for years like the rest. Nowhere neat as hype.

The reaction isn't faggy or overblown for clicks, just three guys who got a beloved character in.

>relevancyfags

I admit I’m confused. I assumed all the DLC were just marketing deals, but I don’t really know what’s going on anymore. Happy for you guys though. Gives me a bit of hope for my own never evers.

I'm just saying that unless you know the characters, on the surface they all look super fucking generic
you know what I meant

Relevancy does matter my nigga
Either you have a major role in a notable new game, or you have a huge fanbase and history. Those are the only (non-clone) characters that get in Smash.

Oh shut the fuck up and let people be happy.

Doomguy has only really been talked about since last year for Smash. Characters like Banjo, K. Rool, and Ridley have been wanted since Melee or so, while Doomguy is a Smash Ultimate want.

because he's probably played the game

>implying the Star Fox cast and Konkey Dong wouldn't also fit on this list perfectly
Smash is a tribute game, not a way for your flavor-of-the-month Roblox and Fortnite characters to take up valuable space, zoomie.

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Stay assblasted manchildren.

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That's really funny because I have never played a DQ game that any of those four characters are featured in and they looked plenty unique to me.
A lot of Smash fans just stopped paying attention when the trailer was for a DQ hero, I think.

Banjo was my last most wanted. It feels fucking euphoric having a (personally speaking) complete roster.
Everything from this point on is just extra gravy. Feels good

>>Weeaboos
But I'm happy for Banjo

Still. Sakurai well aware of how Doom is important to gaming history. And Doom 4 was in development for god knows how long. That's more than enough time for Bethesda and Nintendo to do SmashXDoom business.

Isk about Issac but Geno has had tons of fan demand since the Melee days, Sakurai has commented on it before. Again, he’s not getting in at this point but it’s a damn shame when faggot characters like Incineroar and Isabelle have gotten in.

I'm not really convinced that they're willing to add a third party IP with such minimal presence in Japan to Smash.

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By "weeaboos" I'm pretty sure that refers to the neverwesties who REEEE over the very idea of western characters being in Smash (and often employ mental gymnastics as to why Diddy/K. Rool/Dark Samus don't count as "western").

>relevancy fags BTFO
you know who's next

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Apparently that doesn't apply to people who like Dragon Quest.

The Banjo Kazooie games are comedy games you autist.

Since when have sales mattered? Come on dude. You should know after Stevefags pushed this argument they got btfo.

Dragon Quest has never really had mainstream popularity in the West - a lot of people just saw 'another generic anime swordsman' and rolled their eyes, which is a shame, but it's not really their fault.

I mean, let's say that it had been Crono who was revealed instead. I imagine that even people that hadn't played Chrono Trigger would have had a better reaction (even if he's as every bit an anime swordsman as anyone from Dragon Quest), because Chrono Trigger is a game that's ingrained in Western gaming culture. Even if you've never played Chrono Trigger, you'd probably at least be tangentially familiar with him and would probably recognize who he was and the context within which he's entering Smash - "Oh, that's from that SNES RPG that's hugely popular! I've heard a lot about it - that's cool!". I imagine that most people that saw Duck Hunt's trailer hadn't played Duck Hunt themselves, but were at least familiar with the game, the dog and the NES Zapper to understand what it was representing and at least appreciate that. That just doesn't exist for DQ in the West - it's not really associated with a specific time in gaming, or a specific console, or a specific installment. The little references and nods are completely lost on them because there's no context to it. Few people are aware of how much it influenced the genre or how popular it is in Japan, and even if they do, there's no real reason to care about it because of that - and I think after Joker a lot of people were hoping for a more Western-aimed character anyway.

Hopefully with Smash and this big push SE are doing, Dragon Quest will start to get more recognition outside of JPN. Either way though, they're in the game and their fans are happy, and that's not something that can be taken away.

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How can I when I got what I've always wanted for years? Faggolas like you will never effect me now.

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I know a dude who was but blasted about banjo. Came to my stream and started shittalking banjo saying he is shit and all. He wanted sora. Jesus christ.

>Nintendo and Microsoft are tight
>Banjo
>We know for a fact that Nintendo and Bethesda have discussed DLC
it's going to fucking happen

I've got nothing against Phoenix, but what spoke on the wheel would he be breaking if he got in along the lines of how Banjo-Kazooie finally killed "relevance" and "no western IPs"?

>but only if you like banjo kazooie

>fagola
i still miss him...

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>toriyama's work is in smash now

that man is one of the most influential people on the planet, all because he drew some funny poop jokes that evolved way out of control

gotta say, i kind of respect that

Anything known about Banjo's alts?

Cheers mate, fuck stevefags.

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>a game no one has played
You mean the best game on 3DS?

>all the "rules" have been broken
Name ONE legitimate reason Sora cannot be in Smash Bros. Don't try to bullshit with "b-but he's a Disney character!" He's a Disney VIDEO GAME character. There is literally no reason he wouldn't be considered for the roster.

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One is pink.
Also he may not be able to change the colors of his backpack and shorts. Could be weird licensing shit like with Sonic and PacMan

Good game, just hardly anyone played it.

overexposure to Fire Emblem has left a bitter taste in the mouth's of Smashfags, moreso than the actual character itself. I guarantee the same reaction would happen to Crono and Sora.

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It's gonna be him and Ryu.

Think. Which at the moment is 3rd party. Anticipated as all fuck. And part of an ongoing series since the 90's?

I can't think of anyone else except Travis and Dante but they got de-confirmed. It all points towards The Doom Slayer.

For some reason there's some crazy fucking ill-will toward Sora in the Smash community. I wanted Sora and Banjo the most, but getting Banjo and a Dragon Quest character was more than exciting for me.

Rayman?

More like nayman

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>I guarantee the same reaction would happen to Crono and Sora.
I appreciate the attempt to make me feel better but you don't have to lie.

Minecraft Steve?
More like - it's time for you to leave!

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Oh wait fuck you're right it undersold
Fuck

Kingdom Hearts fans are so irritating. I know #notall but they are seriously so much worse than even sonicfags.

as an Amerifag with no knowledge of DQ outside of 11 and builders this post is 100% spot on
after Joker I expected a western pick to appease the fanbase over here but when I saw it was another Japanese fan favorite with zero relevance to me I was pretty disappointed
I'll probably pick up 11 when the port comes out and give it a try though

>For some reason there's some crazy fucking ill-will toward Sora in the Smash community
If Square is difficult to work with, I can't imagine what hurdles they'd have to go through to get Sora.

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BASED

Fire emblem eventually became accepted and established in the west. Dragon Quest has the advantage of being a hell of lot more charming with better-written stories and more accessible gameplay.

Relevancy does matter, though. Sakurai explained that K. Rool and Banjo got in thanks to the ballot, let's not blind ourselves here.
And if the rumore that a new Banjo game is really happening next year, it kinda means that Banjo is relevant, since it will be getting a new game next year...
But exceptions existed since Melee with Ice Climbers. Relevancy is still a valid argument, though. A large part of the roster only made it in thanks to relevancy (Pokemon characters, Sheik, Earthbound's characters, Shulk, Palutena, FE etc...)

I think that's why Sora never got in.

only thing holding him back is Disney being hesitant to add him to a fighting game
even before DQ/Banjo reveals this was the only thing holding him back, nothing has changed

Steveposting is banned now, sorry fella.

So are we going to pretend that one of the last two DLC spots won't go to a Danganronpa character? Despite Sakurai being a huge fan of the series, Spike Chunsoft being supervisors of the last Smash game AND the last DLC character would be saved for next year which is Danganronpa's 10th anniversary?

>Don't try to bullshit with "b-but he's a Disney character!"
Yes and Disney ruins everything they touch if you haven't noticed.

>Sakurai is a huge fan of the series

Huh, the more you know.

You could compare anything to DQ in Japan and it would look unpopular.

B&R Mung Daal

Shitting Eggs makes the most sense for BK's Down-special. It acts exactly as it does in the game too (even down to being able to pick the eggs back up)

All of these are made under Nintendo series. Diddy Kong has been in more Japanese made titles than he ever was in his own series. Banjo is the first genuine Western character in the series

yeah he's a fucking weeb

Who would even get in if they pick anyone from DR? Monokuma would be the best bet because he's the mascot and it would fit with the Heroes vs Villains theme but Sakurai and Nintendo pretty much threw that away with the DLCs and seems only protagonists have been getting the picks so Naegi COULD get in over Monokuma but that would be terrible because Naegi sucks ass and can't fight for shit.

Disney has gone on record saying he can get in, all Sakurai has to do is ask

Japan is just bonkers for the series.

twitter.com/DeathETM/status/1138515505680179202

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Oh, I didn't know I was having a fucking seizure.

I technically didn't mind Banjo, but his fans definitely made me have a whole perspective of them as being simply spoiled. Just to give you a perspective, I was against Erdrick (by this, I mean Erdrick alone, not Hero as it is now), but seeing the character(s), at least that felt like something DQ fans (not Erdrick fans in specific) deserved, contrary to Banjo fans, who made the whole thing grow both in Japan and overseas, but at the same time, overinflating its importance.

I... fuck it, Banjo might have the positive of the song(s) and stages wise, but as a character, it really somewhat does feel overrated. There's attachment to a character and then there's having an inflated ego to think DQ is less important than B&K, which in that perspective, I feel DQ fans (even though I have not played the series whatsoever, maybe one freaking title on Game Boy perhaps).

The wars here made me really shut and really despise majorities overall, just because it really does feel like you're ever gonna get anything if you're obnoxious about it and show persistent blind love for it (there's a difference, note how Waluigi fans were called out not genuine even though I DO know Waluigi fans that do care for him as a character despite the feebleness and lack of support for the character).

Is it weird? Is it weird that I'd rather have hoped for Banjo to actually have a new game rather than inflate his importance enough for him to make it in Smash?

>worse than even sonicfags
I think you're stretching it a bit to much.

More than likely, its a reference to Banjo-Tooie's multiplayer skins. They always changed Banjo and Kazooie's colors, but the shorts were always yellow and the backpack was always blue.

>holy shit, marth and ridley both stab directly forward for one of their specials! ASSET REUSE!

>chromatic abberation
why

Toe Jam & Earl would actually be really cool. They could have a switching mechanic like Pokemon Trainer or Zelda and Shiek used to have.

Sakurai literally Say they are roster filler because they are easy to make and uses the Word strategic

During the grinch leak, I hated his fans, and a little bit before e3, I had lost hope in him with all the people he’d never get in, but he’s in now and I couldn’t be happier because he’s made so many and he looks really fun to play as. My most wanted hat goomba, but the bear and bird definitely make up for it.

They are obviously saving Sora for last when they show a trailer of Kirby and all freed fighters struggling against both Galeem and Dharkon since KH's whole schtick is Light vs Darkness so it fits well.

I was a Sorafag/Stevefag to the end. Now I'm just dealing with the reveals in peace. I guess the shitposting Erdrick posters were right. Banjofans were never annoying though, I just hated the discord trannies that produced that terrible Steve model.

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*is hat goomba

So why did furfag bear get in over characters like Bomberman?

>Dragon Quest never took off here

Nah that’s bullshit. Dragon Quest 2 sold more in the US than the best-selling Megaman game, Megaman 2, did worldwide. It got off to a great start. Then the series really exploded in Japan with 3, basically the equivalent of FF7, which didn’t get released in the US until the SNES has already launched. It was later remade for SNES but never released in the US. Final Fantasy gained ground, they changed their branding and killed their momentum and that was that.

Go stream for more superberries Jim.

The point is people used to point out relevancy for even highly requested characters. Obviously someone told and obscure(besides the "retro" characters) aren't getting in.

One day

>Sora/Steve fag
Okay, genuinely curious.
Why?

We already have a SQ Rep
Thinking sq Will have 2 DLC is beyond delusional

wild woody is based tho

I never really thought I'd see the day where we'd get Akira Toriyama's characters in Smash. As well as a 3rd party WESTERN character.

I'm just baffled by these current events.

I just like their games, usually I don't jump onto any band wagons just because a leak comes out.

You can't blame Western audiences for not caring about DQ when we were barely even exposed to it. No Dragon Quest games were ever released in North America between 1992 and 2009. Most Western fans are familiar with Pokemon and Final Fantasy as far as JRPGs go. DQ definitely deserves to be in Smash, but Western gamers were never going to care as much as the Japanese fans the same way zoomies aren't going to care about Banjo. It's not their fault the franchise has been neglected for so long. Did any of us really care about Marth, Roy, Ice Climbers, and Pit making it into Smash? Having Banjo in Smash serves as a way to drum up publicity and support for a new game the same way it did for the Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus franchises.

The Belmonts trailer was better
But it was still a god damned good trailer

I'm convinced anyone who wants fucking Minecraft of all things to make it into Smash is an underage. Sora I could see happening, but that means dealing with Disney, and opening up that whole new can of worms.

who cares its just a character in a dlc you nerd
how long are you going to keep flooding Yea Forums with this garbage
fucking nintendo fags are the worst goblins on this board

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Counters have literally nothing to do with any of the games those characters are from. Fire Emblem games don’t even have counters.

I said this multiple times. It's fucking impossible. Steve lacks the ability to emote so any cinematic trailer for him is unable to be done with all the limitations. He ain't getting in. Ever. Period.

i still hope they take at least some cues from 3, the powerups were cool and need to come back
but other than that i don't see many differences between 3 and origins aside from his shoes and overall personality

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I'm 19, and I wanted Steve in. The idea that Steve can't emote shows a lack of creativity in body language and gesturing.
On a side note, Disney has gone on the record that they're willing to do whatever with Sora just be sure to ask them first and then Nomura.

>Having Banjo in Smash serves as a way to drum up publicity and support for a new game the same way it did for the Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus franchises

If it ever even gets one. Just because this happened, doesn't mean Banjo's back back. He's still in Microsoft for as long as they want to/permit it. This is just a superfluous way of saying "Hey, your favorite bird and bear is finally back!... Although we're still thinking about whether to actually make a game! Maybe if you show your support!". In that case, who would even make it? They've got Grant's contact, but this is now new Rare. It would either have to be under Microsoft's rule, Nintendo's house or co-joined, but the Rare team would never change. Maybe perhaps Nintendo employees/dev teams given, but that's if we're lucky.

>delusional
Sega, Capcom, etc. all have more than a few reps on the roster. I don't think SE would be exempt from this, considering the draw these third-party fighters have.

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Zoomer whining and bandwagoning is the reason Banjo got in? In that small amount of time between K Rool's reveal and Incineroar's you made so much noise even nintendo got aware of it.
Pro Tip: Zoomies, don't listen to boomers, we have terrible opinions, don't waste your time shilling what the echo-chamber that is the smash community wants. Shill something that you actually want.

look at this image

How many of you are alright with Doomguy being the next push for Smash?

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Good luck to you all, I hope my never evers inclusion clipped the wings of antifags so you can post in peace

t. Banjochad

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngSPb8S5ODc

>I'm 19, and I wanted Steve in.
Meaning you're a zoomie who wasn't even born yet when the N64 was relevant. Your generation mostly only cares about Smash as secondhand hype from us 30-year-old boomers, and Banjo is extremely nostalgic for us. He deserved to be in Smash since the first game.

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There’s a lot of shit in Minecraft they could use

Does anyone here fucking notice how aggressive OP was?
Nobody here is getting a "twat posing as a Banjofag to piss someone off cause their panties are in a bunch" vibe to it?
Nobody?
That maybe OP is exploiting everyone's egotistical bullshit over Banjo getting in?
...I wish I could say Yea Forums just looks like it's filled with idiots from the influx of newfags. But nah. Yea Forums is just getting more and more stupid the longer anons stay here.
FFS.

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Says the zoomer

I could see Microsoft making a new Banjo Kazooie game as a launch title to appeal to the nostalgiafags, since a major complaint of the Xbox One was lack of exclusives.

user, I'd like to point out that you can buy UMVC3 right now from Steam and PSN. The licensing issues occurred due to the chaos following the Marvel buyout, it wasn't an issue of fees or negotiations falling through. It was simply thanks to the time it took to sort all of the pre-existing Marvel licenses that were now under Disney.

me

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Him and Ryu are the only likely reps that are left that make a fuck ton of sense. Ryu and Doom Slayer are both big parts of video game history. One of them getting an upcoming game.

Bethesda confirmed that they did in fact talk to Nintendo about Smash.

The leaker YongWea referenced who predicted all of these DLC so far had DOOMguy on his list.

Sakurai has referred to John Carmack as "The Father of FPS games"

And Doom Marine was even on 5chan leak and I believe "marine" was in the datamines too.

Something is definitely happening. And with the rule about no guns or western 3rd party characters out the window, it's fair game now.

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OP here
I have endured 19 years of being a never ever ever and having my series dragged through the mud
And THEN I had to put up with a year of Steve shitposting, contrarians/zoomers saying that Banjo was never good in the first place, weeaboos making fake rules that said only Japanese characters could get in, etc etc etc
Kindly suck my dick. Or don't, what do I care, Banjo and Kazooie are in FUCKING SMASH BROS

More than alright with it. Been playing Doom all my life, would be neat if he were also in smash.

>The leaker YongWea referenced who predicted all of these DLC so far had DOOMguy on his list.
link

The person you replied to here.
Found the steveposting and Banjo posting pretty lulzy desu. But that being said, big fan of the series when I was a kid. Good games.
Ain't obsessed over it to that extent but you got a point. I'll join your team.

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aero the acrobat was a hardass game. i could never bea thtat as a kid

I'm guessing whoever made this image also thinks Nathan Drake or Joel are some of the best videogame prostagonists of all time.
Fuck zoomers.

Based Lancerposter, I retract my demand that you suck my dick. I also unironically want an Undertale/Deltarune rep.

>calls other characters poorly designed and mediocre
>wants Minecraft to be in Smash

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seethe harder, stevefag
banjo is fucking IN

I like your post.

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Er, fuck you too? I'm not one of the zoomers you're talking about, but I can't help but feel insulted.

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I just want Sora because Strike Raid will be somewhere in his kit, and Strike Raid is the sickest attack in a game period. Abusing the call-back mechanism so you can infinitely throw your sword is cool as fuck.

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Nu-ghty Dog destroyed Sony's creative vein and molded it into its own bullshit western-made walking simulators with pandering to politics and gender wars. If it wasn't for the Medievil remake, the scenario of PS4 exclusives would be beyond tragic.

>b-but Kojima is japanese

He's a westaboo and now is working in America, barely counts at all.

>Weeaboo
What do they have to do with this game you obsessed fuck? DQ still got in the game, multiple characters have anime, why are you so obsessed with what people like you fuck?

>zoomers can't handle colorful characters
taz, gex, glover, and especially klonoa are all great games

>Banjo-Kazooie in Smash
>Call of Duty Modern Warfare making a comeback
>Halo reboot
Zoomies on suicide watch

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Weebs thought Banjo would never make it in since he's not a Japanese IP.

He's about onpar with Rosalina. Sure she gets to keep showing up in spinoffs, but really she's only representing Galaxy. That's the only real difference, Rosalina is a relevancy character while Geno is a legacy character. Geno is a unique Mario character from a unique and classic Mario game, he's worth including.

Why are Sorafags pissed at BK and not DQ
DQ is the square swordsman which was Soras competition not a Microsoft cartoon animal

one day, we'll be in smash
youtube.com/watch?v=s94VB0dEfC0

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Minecraft is a great game

>CoD and Halo
>not the zoomiest games of all

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Because they're retards who don't actually play video games

But on another note CHADRICK ALWAYS WINS BABY

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I genuinely see a joint venture between Nintendo/Microsoft/Playtonic to do remakes for Banjo on the switch. Or at minimum release either the classic games or the revamped xbla games on switch. Microsoft already tossed Cuphead and that Lucky's Tale game to Switch, though I'm not sure if exclusivity ran out or otherwise.

Anyway, that recent interview with Phil showed that Microsoft and NIntendo have had good working relationships longer than the past public year. I didn't know Microsoft published a lot of 3rd party games for Nintendo, let alone NoA and Microsoft are next door.

But people have argue it was possible because is DSamus and K.Rool.

I know that feel man. I’m not at all confident at this point Rayman will get in since he has a spirit in game, but we can always hope I guess

I just realized that Banjo stealing the food from Ivysaur(?) at the end of the trailer was a callback to stealing the jiggy from the snake in Tooie.
So much fanservice, Sakurai is based.

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>shadman

>Halo Combat Evolved: 2001
>Halo 2: 2004
>Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare: 2007
>Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2: 2009
Most zoomies would have been playing shit like Minecraft when COD was at its peak.

There was also the scene were Banjo and Diddy are fighting DK - he's carrying one of Pac-mans oranges in a reference to Conga.

Nintendo has the rights to those characters though.

zoomer here, and you have shit taste
fuck off, weeblet

People who got excited at DQ where the few actual legitmate fans of the series. 90% of the Banjo fans are rosterfagging zoomers and the last 10% are onions boomers (think gamexplain).

based and redlum'd

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Halo came out in the same era as banjo you retard.

People only know banjo due to jontron

How does it feel to have a YouTuber character in smash? ZOOMERS WIN

Halo - 2001
Banjo Kazooie - 1998

Oooh only 3 years off.

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Why was he drawn over that Yamcha tier jobber then?

zoomers cant grasp the idea that Banjo was a big deal on the 64

>People only know banjo due to jontron
Or maybe we actually owned N64s and have been playing Smash since the first game before you were even swimming around in your dad's ballsack?

>contrarians
the "BTFO" i got happy the most

Dragon Quest and Fire Emblem look about as similar as OG Dragonball/Dragonball Z and a modern SoL anime, so not very.

>most fanservicey newcomer trailer

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Sorafags are not pissed at any characters, why would you think they are?

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Saving for Sam pointing at and mocking Steve

>Zoomers
>Weeaboos
how out of touch are you that you think young people and the Japanese don't like Banjo?

People keep saying the snake, but what came to mind for me first was the sleeping caveman in Mayahem Temple. What a great bit of fanservice.

I don't care one way or the other. All my reasons to care about the series died with Nuts and Bolts and them being added in Smash one decade after wont fix what could have been. The Dragon Quest trailer was more hype for me honestly

Ok but is she in?

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>twitch.tv/blake_adam/video/437768160
>this is the people who "won"

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Zoomers are anyone who wanted Minecraft or some other souless nu-game to make it into Smash. Weeaboos aren't Japanese. They're the naysayers who said Banjo Kazooie would never be in Smash, since they're not a Japanese-owned IP.

Does anyone have that japanese comic talking about how japan loves western shit like Bendy and other stuff but scoffs at Rayman?

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weeaboo does not mean japanese

Yeah I'm thinking Ryu and Doom Slayer are next.
destructoid.com/arcade-archives-ninja-gaiden-brings-the-original-brawler-to-consoles-today-552968.phtml
gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/super-smash-bros-ultimate-sales-pass-five-million-in-first-week-nintendo-1978661
nintendolife.com/news/2018/09/bethesda_has_spoken_to_nintendo_about_smash_bros_future_nintendo_exclusives_are_possible

Rayman, Steve, and Heihachi are out bros.

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he actually looks interesting and fun to play. the mana/magic gimmick looks way more engaging than the junk Robin has. honestly, fuck fire emblem for creating this stigma for swordsman. they can be great!

I think most zoomers are just pretending to be hyped for BK to fit in with the boomers who are legitimately hyped
You can easily tell who actually played the games by watching the reaction to the trailer
Zero faked his hype while people like esam were legitimately happy

*has shit taste in your path*

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OP literally lumped the Japanese with the weebs if you read two posts down

Facts

Zoomers wanted Steve and Master Chief
Weeaboos =/= Japanese, japs always loved Banjo, Weeaboos were fat westerners that pretended that only Japanese IPs were allowed in Smash

As someone who believed them being western was death sentence, I'm so fucking glad I was proven wrong. Lot's of people say "This character's in, anyone's possible" but Banjo absolutely embodies that, and it's fucking great.
Now give me Crash.

>more people wanted a FUCKING ARMS CHARACTER over K.Rool
wat?

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I think this is it.
youtube.com/watch?v=7_2n1OrJYnM

The japs would sooner shove 2B Sora Crash Noctis or Sans in over Banjo.

nah m8, got both Banjo Kazooie and Tooie when they first came out. I'm not elated, but I'd have to be either lying, a joyless fag, or zoomer if I said I wasn't at least a little bit happy.

wait nevermind, it's japan, it all makes fucking sense now, those retards.

and he is also wrong
it's better to no spread misinformation

I was replying to who described exactly the people I was talking about as "Japanfags", I was assuming he just didn't know what a weeaboo was

>Japan wanting Sans
w-why? I don't understand

I doubt there's anyone on Yea Forums that doesn't know what a weeb is, misinformation isn't going to spread anywhere.

>Facts
>a fucking copy of the far better K. Rool trailer
>surpassing the original or the even better Ridley trailer
That said, Hero's trailer was very well made.

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>24: Goku

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I also thought Banjo would never make it in since he's not Japanese, but I am happy he's in. I almost cried tears of joy when I watched the trailer. He deserved to be in since the first Smash game, but I had pretty much lost all hope after Microsoft acquired Rare.

Sans is literally popular everywhere. Him being brought up isn't jus le funny meme, there are people who legitimately want him when his gimmick doesn't actually fit with Smash what so ever

>OOOOMMMGGGG A NEW SMASH FIGHTER!
>HES IN SHES IN THEYRE IN YOURE IN IM IN WE'RE IN HAHA XFAGS BTFO!!! I ALWAYS KNEW XE'D BE IN YEP SHES GETTING ASSISTED HAHA DRAW HER GETTING RAPED!!!

God you fucking losers are pathetic. NONE of you actually play smash.

Why are you all like this?

Japan loves the fuck out of Undertale just like they do with DQ and Touhou.

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The only based things on this list are K. Rool Slime and Raiden

based veggietales

Based as fuck

>sans
i'm thinking he's in

>33 Waluigi
>34 Goku

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I want Sans so bad, Yea Forums and the internet would shit itself harder than with Banjo.

Weak bait user, try harder. Also congrats on not realizing soi was word filtered like two years ago

based

Didn't even think about that, you're probably right

It's Puyo's turn.

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> Doom guy gets in
> Get's Chex Skin for Alt

It couldn't get any sweeter.

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files.catbox.moe/1nymwl.mp4

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Most wanting Steve were just wanting to see people upset

Smash sucks, who gives a shit
Dont waste time with bad games

Bye bitch.

Undertale will be the pre-holiday stunt, mark my fucking words on this shit.

I'm pretty sure that almost every franchise in Smash is less popular than Dragon Quest

I think Sans getting included would be pretty dope. I can think of a few good moves he could use.

K. Rool's trailer was kino but much like the Banjo games themselves, the sequel was far superior
Ridley's trailer was lame, it was just screaming space rage dragon doing screaming space rage dragon things, only Sakurai gave him the one and only bit of personality he's had in 30 years by making him smirk

Dungeons & Dragons did it first

As a Banjofag i'm happy that not only Erdrick or the Luminary got in, but also the other two that I've never even seen before. I'm sure that made some people extremely happy. I've only played DQ Builders so i'm not versed in the series but it sure as hell makes me happier to see others happy. Honestly, their moveset looks far more intuitive and fun than Banjo's, I just love the bear and bird too much to not main them.

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He'll probably be a spirit in addition to other Rare characters.

Confirmed for not only not playing the Banjo games but also not playing the Metroid series.

Because Simon was the Konami rep. It was AT or nothing.

lol retard
Tooie is better than Kazooie
Ridley is the most boring Nintendo villain

That title actually goes to King Boo

Reminder that Fawful deserves a slot at least thrice as much as the puppet.

> Implying they can't get two newcomers in the same game
Capcom had Ryu and Rockman retard

For those that don't know, Square-Enix as a company rule to never release a mainline DQ/DW game on a weekday.

This is because back in the day when DW3 first came out there, literally (and I do mean literally) half of the kids in Japan called in sick for school.

>implying we're only getting two more characters

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Ultimate's newcomer lineup was puny as fuck thanks to "Everyone is here!"

They were only able to squeeze in six 'unique' characters, and one of those was just a semi-clone.

Honestly the DLC is making up for it.

How does it feel to have your cringe discord group get dabbed on so hard that it crashes Yea Forums?

The castlevania trailer is still the best though

Sorafag and Banjo supported\r here. If Sora lost his chance for Joker, the Luminary and Banjo then I am perfectly happy. Whoever gets in now, I don't really care.

My top five most wanted newcomers was
>K Rool
>Ridley
>Banjo
>Any Belmont
>Doomguy

I've gotten almost everything I wanted this game. No matter who the last two fighters are I can't be mad. Doomguy would make this game perfect though.

Why would you come into a thread about something you don't like just to post this

youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c&t=1m55s
>kid hates Banjo but bought the pass already
Whiny Gen Z babies got what they deserved.

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BK being the best is more of a testament to the other DLC characters sucking desu

STEVE IS GETTING IN
FUCK YOU EDRICKFAGS
FUCK YOU BANJOFAGS
FUCK YOU DOOMFAGS
FUCK EVERYONE
KILL YOURSELVES
DIE DEGENERATES
BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY HIS GAME BUY IS GAMW SKDMOAKSNEHWKDNSUAKDNJSNXIKWNSDOKSNXIMEIXKXEKOSMXWKDNIDKRRNOWKNDDIDKEMSDJEMDIMD

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>watch Etika's reaction
>still refuses to shut the fuck up about DBZ Goku and wants to see everyone's feet

Calm down & Cope in a healthy matter i guess not lol

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Banjo was my most wanted right behind Simon, and desu i think Belmonts trailer was MUCH better. I get WHY they copied Krools reveal but it felt uninspired like they just crakked his trailer because personally THEY didnt care. Would of loved a full scene to himself not a rehash. Only thing i was disappointed about on his reveal

I thought Stevefags were just shitposting... holy shit this is pathetic.

The context for this poll was who they thought was going to be added not who they wanted.

Huh, so Japan isn't based.