SNK rejected Epic bribery

Ironically SNK is owned by a rich chinese superfan

Ping pong! It's like Nanking all over again!

Ok I will definitely buy KOF and Metal Slug bundle from their Steam store this summer sales to support SNK. Well done.

holy shit based

>on the condition of a pre-order of hundreds of thousands
so that's what epic does, they are not giving money directly, they are buying actual copies
so technically it's not a bribe, but the purchase instead

that's why satisfactory's pr dude said the game sold 500k copies

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Based. Genuinely hoping that SNK and SamSho would be a big league again.

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amazing, will consider buying Metal Slug from them in the future as I've always enjoyed playing their arcade games when I was younger

I'd have been pissed if epic got this one.

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>because he thought Samurai Shodown will be for sale million copies
this means the people taking epic game offers are scared their games won't sell
lets see the games that are typically being bought by epic
>Metro Exodus
>The Sinking City
>Control
just to name a few
hmmm i wonder what these games have in common?
oh they're shut in player games

Yes thats literally why we've been saying epic guarantees sales. They pay for everyone's copy of the game

Yeah, I figured as much. Just a moment ago thread about Satisfactory's sales was deleted, and I remembered the whole thing with Phoenix Point, and how people who invested on it at Fig saw returns before the game was even out.
Calculating with supposed Epic buyout price of 2.5 million without counting in the Epic Discount, both Phoenix Point and Satisfactory came to bit under 100K copies bought by Epic, but if they did some kind of weirdo bulk deal the number could easily be in hundreds of thousands.

>SNK CEO rejected because he thought Samurai Shodown will be for sale million copies
What? They thought it would sell over a million copies so they didn't take the money of a few hundred thousand copies?
How the fuck does the Epic deal actually work?

Based crazy CEO, but they should have stole that Ebin Games money and run since PC is dead for animu fighters

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what are the chances that SNK is already owned by tencent

I think it's hilarious that they're actually returning to their roots more under the Chink.

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I want Samsho to be popular so I'm glad it's not an exclusive, on the other hand, I wish people wouldn't be so hostile towards EGS just because of features that people don't even use on Steam either because there are better free alternatives out there.

Samsho is made in UE4, that means they would get only 65% on Steam while on EGS there would be only 7%+5% UE cuts, which is a huge difference, and SNK could definitely use that money.

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You'd be surprised how many people hate their own race once they become rich.

This. Its funny how you get such amazingly positive PR from outwardly rejecting the epic offer, it makes the fans very happy. Epic handled everything so terribly

People are hostile towards EGS because of their shady bugman business practices used to push their half-baked store.
> SNK could definitely use that money.
SamSho 7 already made its money back off Japanese preorders alone.

It's not about features, it's about not supporting a company being scummier than the entirety of EA's practices for the past 10 years. Nobody gives a shit about Big Picture mode or whatever other useless bloat they have.

>hundreds of thousand preorder
Fuck, Epic actually unironically throws money around like retards.
Being run by a fan is always better than owned by venture capitalist.

SamSho's preorder number is already riling up the dollars.

And the new KOF otome game literally broke japanese twitter yesterday. I'd say they're going to get it right soon.

I do agree, this wasn't really best move on SNK's part. Fighting games really don't sell millions of copies on PC, and SNK needs all the money they can get.
Though I'm happy they did this, since it ended up shedding some light on smug fuckers going "Yeah, our games on Epic sell hundreds of thousands of copies, it's fucking great!"

SamSho looks like trash, EGS or not.

Wow. SNK is fucking based.

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>Epic literally "buys" hundreds of thousand of copies
This means all of those games who were selling "amazingly" at Epic all have fucking rigged numbers

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA.

>Epic is going after Japanese devs now
Fuck those faggots.

Who will be the first to fold? Capcom? Bandai Namco? Square Enix?

Bamco already announced one exclusive

>People are hostile towards EGS because of their shady bugman business practices used to push their half-baked store.
I know being an edgy fedoratipper /pol/fag never gets old but you should seriously stop being some conspiracy theorist faggot

Samsho is also funded by chinese investors

egs also hardly even makes money, basically only takes 7% cut from UE games which is fucking nothing. You people pushing that this is some greedy chinese conspiracy is just plain nonsense. This whole agression with egs is just Sweeney's autism to lower the taxes on game distribution.

otherwise, sure, egs is half baked, but people extremely overreact about how important these missing features are when you can already use free third party alternatives for these features, and that's exactly what most people do on steam too.

>SamSho 7 already made its money back off Japanese preorders alone.
I want them to grow and go back to their old glory, not just to make an ends meet

>I prefer if nobody at all would ever play the game
Fucking kill yourself chinese bugs.
EGS is cancer trying to kill pc gaming and turn it into the same trash thats snoy is shitting out.

Its a little studio, they can't handle two versions at the same time, retard. Also, they can't pay for Denuvo and they don't want it to be pirated day one, anybody can run a game like that on an average PC, so they would loose Ps4 sales too.

holy shit Tim got dabbed on

If you're talking about that Dontnod game, that doesn't count since Bamco only publishes that on consoles.

I think SE will be the first one since Avengers didn't have Steam listed in its trailer while all its other games showed Steam.

>an exclusive release on the condition of a pre-order of hundreds of thousands
HOL UP

This is an extremely important point. Is that exactly how they signed these deals? Would that mean if Epic has a statistics of player playtime right now just like Steam, would it show up 500k people not even playing the game?

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Ok Tim

YAMATO DAMASHI for Samurai Spirits

Epic buys the copies for exclusivity. As the customers buy the actual copies of the game they dont take profit off of the first few hundred thousand that are bought.

It's basically a loan

Those missing features are pretty important, it's also ridiculous for those features to be missing in TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN.

The lower cut concept is bullshit too, Steam does take a higher cut but it's for a good reason, they use their own cut to cover transaction costs and other behind the scenes fees. Epic takes a lower cut but forces YOU the consumer to cover those costs, it's why their prices are higher for customers outside the US.

fuck off

>which was always the series' primary audience.
I always thought the primary audience was random taquerias in Mexico.

Go back to china you disgusting insect

That's KoF.

All fighting games die on every platform within 6 months retard.
I love how Sonytards act like figthing games florish on their console and they're not scrambling on Discord for matches 2 months later like everything else that doesn't have Street Fighter or Tekken in their name.

>Copies sold: 500k
>Highest concurrent players: 10

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BASADO

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It's just a sale guarantee. They will pay you up-front as though you had sold 200k copies. When the game releases and 200k people buy it, you get no revenue, because you were already paid for those 200k people. When the 200,001st person buys your game, then you get the money for that person, and for everyone after that.

>The lower cut concept is bullshit too
Don't forget the fact that Epic allows "exclusives" on the Microsoft Store which has the same 70/30 cut as everyone else.

Tim Sweeney is just full of shit.

They'll regret it, the game is going to bomb on Steam like every other fighting game with the exception of MK and Tekken.

SNK will be lucky to sell 10k copies of Samurai Showdown.

>500k sold guys

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I always saw more Samurai Showdown machines in Mexico than KoF. They more mostly the Neo Geo machines that also had Metal Slug and Super Sidekicks.

see you people extremely overreact about stupid shit
I know I will be labelled as a shill, but epic does a lot of things for game development, like making the world leading game engine

them trying to popularize a store that takex 23-17% less money to themselves and more to the game producer companies is a good thing, even if they do a shitty job with makign their store apealing to use

I mean what is your point? everything I said is true

It’s fair game for EFS to attract devs by offering higher percentage of profit. That’s healthy competition. Money hating games to make them exclusive isn’t. Things will turn into which we shifty platform can drop more money and it won’t actually be about which platform is better for devs and consumers

Wow what a fucking retarded decision
>Thinking SamSho will sell a million on PC
It'll be lucky to sell 10k

>shady bugman business practices
What the fuck does this mean? Talk like a normal person.

Samurai shoe down

how do you know that it works this way?

Perhaps it won't sell, but its very respectable of SNK to believe in their games instead of opting for a quick payout deal

>B-but it's okay because they give more money to the publishers while fucking over the consumer and the entire market!
Yikes.
If you support EGS then you trying to take down everything that pcgaming stands for. EGS is trying to turn pc into another shitty console.
Fuck off chink scum

fucking based SNK.
Too bad no one will give a shit and the game bombs anyway.

>on the condition of a pre-order of hundreds of thousands

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>will be for sale million copies.
I hope they do pull it off but this seems optimistic.

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>the game bombs anyway.
Dude the game is already a success from preorders alone. So much so in fact that they decided to give away the season DLC pass for free. It remains to be seen how successful it will be but they already in the black by a not small percentage.

Here's a question for you, ChingChong BingBong: if the EGS is so great for publishers and developers, why do they have to pay for exclusivity?

>Announce release on Epic Store a month after console versions come out
>Get shitloads of coverage by games media
>Vocal minority start screaming about how SNK betrayed them for money
>All the losers who didn't buy the game on PS4 and are really into fighting games end up buying it anyway due to their willingness to buy dead games or support for a company (retards)
>Release the game on Steam like six months later and get even more money from people who double dip or people who didn't want to download Epic

There is literally no reason not to. If Epic goes away in the next 2-3 years then when the next game rolls around and smarmy game journos ask about the Epic deal, just say "It was a good deal" and move on. If Epic sticks around then more and more people are going to be switching over to Epic and the controversy won't matter

we'll see.
but until then i will remain cautiously pessimistic

Dumb move. SS wont break 10k copies on PC

hey retard, you do realize that Epic's "magical 12% cut" is funded by Fortnite money, right? If Fortnite ever dies, your meme 12% cut will skyrocket back to the industry standard 30%.

Hell, your 12% cut is only valid in half the world too, he can't even sustain it worlwide. Epic charges $100 for games where I live and my Australian neighbors have it at like $85. Tim Sweeney's excuse is "foreign taxes" which is bull because Origin, uPlay and Battlenet all work fine here.

You can get away with that with mainstream games but it doesn't always work with niche games.

Also you release on a store that doesn't have like 80k games, 79k of which are shit

So wait, not only does Epic give them a lump sum to agree to be exclusive, they buy a massive amount of copies too and actual customers don't even buy the games?

Fuck off insect, only chink shills support egs

Game would be even more doa with PC community split
You don't want to have 15 on steam and the other 5 on epic
For sure they would make way more money though

>people extremely overreact about how important these missing features are
They have no shopping cart. During the last sale, because of this, people had to buy games one by one. Turns out, buying around 5 or mroe games in less than 30min was seen as "scummy practise" from EGS and banned the accounts of people, forbidding them to play the games they jsut bought until they contacted tech support.

We could also talk about how they take pride on the 12/88 cut, but do not mention that Epic does NOT take care of transiction fees unlike every other store, which means the dev has to sacrifice money if they want to keep their price fair for everyone, and in some countries it scales up to stupid levels.
Or how they pay devs upfront because they're aware they won't sell that much, with even some indie devs admitting they just accepted it for the money.
Or how while still having less features than any other online store it takes more ram than Steam or GoG galaxy.
Or how the refund system is scummy as fuck and takes way too long to get a refund.
Or that the contract EPIC offers specifies no steam release and in many cases, no GOG release, but doesn't care about any other store.
Or how EPIC reduced the price of several games during the last sale so they wouldn't be aviable for the promotion. Also several games were removed from the store during this too.

And I could go on and on. Before claiming people jsut shitpost for nor eason, take into account this level of shitstorm never happened with Uplay or Origin. Sure, those suck as online stores, but they are at least retty straightforward.
Epic entered the online store market with a worse product than the stablished ones, claimed it's "better for the developers" but offered 0 features to the consumer that encourages him to buy on EGS.

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where do you think the "tim sweeny paid for my copy" meme has come from?

thats why satisfactory sold "500k" while developer is "joking" about selling only 9

>foreign taxes
They tax you to keep their 12% cut

>but do not mention that Epic does NOT take care of transiction fees unlike every other store, which means the dev has to sacrifice money if they want to keep their price fair for everyone, and in some countries it scales up to stupid levels
Singaporean here, happened to us. And you know Deep Silver's solution? Apply the Epic Games price to PSN too, fucking Sony didn't do anything about it. Ever since Deep Silver became friends with the Epic Store things have gotten so bad for us Asian anons.

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Well, they are already in the green from the preorders alone from what they said, even if they don't reach 1M they already got more than their cash back.

That's amazing. Also if it makes you feel better, I heard there's some big shitshow going with EGS and Deep Silver due releasing Exodus on Microsoft's game pass. Apparently they weren't allowed to but Deep silver did anyways.

Best of luck with the prices, tho. Hope at least steam and othber stores have more regular prices.

How long realistically until completely independent Timmy steps down of his own free will after being the public face of all their bad PR?

>We could also talk about how they take pride on the 12/88 cut, but do not mention that Epic does NOT take care of transiction fees unlike every other store, which means the dev has to sacrifice money if they want to keep their price fair for everyone, and in some countries it scales up to stupid levels.
This sounds like a big deal and yet this post is the first I've seen anyone mention it.

>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The massive number of copies is where the lump sum comes from. They basically just front you the cash you're owed for your first however many sales. I wouldn't doubt that there are some companies getting offered like 500k-1m sales' worth of up-front cash.

Frankly i dont give a dam about Epic store exclusivity.
What i want is cross play.
And honestly cross-play between all platforms would have made me even buy the game on Epick.

The fact the PC version is delayed and probably wont even have cross-play is enough for me to consider not buying the game unless it magically gets a huge player-base on PC.
Ironically if the game was an epic exclusive chances are it might have acualy had cross play.
Cross play is the most critical element to fighting games yet companies pretend its never important.
Games that already have millions of players on all platforms get cross play but somehow games that have issues become of segregation dont need it.

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>Hope at least steam and other stores have more regular prices.
Literally every other store charges us the standard US prices put through the conversion rate. Epic Store is the only with with the meme pricing which resulted in AAA games being $5 in Russia and a bunch of other countries.

This was talked about pretty much as soon as the store came out

>500,000 epic bought "copies"
>7,374 real owners

We’ve known this for a while. It lets them bullshit about sales figures in addition to their bribe.

>I'm not an Epic shill or anything, but there is nothing wrong with the Epic Store and then people running it are benevolent and are the honorable defenders of game developers
user you are shilling harder than the Epic shills on leddit.

>EGS performs shitty monopolistic practices to lock potential customers into their broken application.
>Decries Steam for their 30% cut despite their massive market share and mature platform.
>GoG a thing. Clearly advertised ethical stance and anti-DRM.
Sweeny defense force, go away.

Actually games cost $0 in Russia.

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>if it released on epic it would have crossplay
No it wouldn’t. In fact it’s less likely to at that. If shit like Tekken and MK still don’t have crossplay on PC it’s not a money issue

It would actually sell even less on EGS. The bribe is effectively that, a bribe that gives more money at the cost burning consumer goodwill and bringing games to a wider audience, the exact opposite of why they're going back to their roots and bothering to bring it to PC at all.

ah yes, those features like being able to buy more than one game at a time are some that nobody ever sues

>tfw you don't own a PS4 but is tempted to double dip on it just because of the NakoruruxGalford print that comes with the amazon jp version

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WHAT THE FUCK

Honestly its your own problem you don't own PS4 for fighting games. That's where all the people at.

is not enough for the game to simply be on the store, it just has to be on it exclusively.

ANDY HAS A WIFE HE WOULD NOT DATE YOU WHY IS HE IN THE GAME

Based SNK

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They are not married, just living together and most of the time Andy is MIA to train

I own a Ps4 i just refuse to pay for fucking PS+ to play the game i already bought online.

You console turds need to kys.

This does make me worry if they’re actually targeting more niche games like fighters now. Because the truth is if a single fighter ever takes this deal, you can bet it’ll be more dead than even MVCI is on steam.

Just pray to whatever lord out there that it’s not a game series I genuinely like a shit load.

>n-no, you can't point out objective things this company has done, that's shilling
>you can only argue with conspiracy theories like we do

It's pretty funny how most Epic shills on Yea Forums are pirates and consolefags, neither of which even use the Epic Store. Leddit's Epic shills actually do use the store at least, though they might be brain damaged because they spend most of their time shilling on leddit rather than playing games.

I would've supported any store that sells at a lower price.
The thing about Epic is, they're scum who moneyhats exclusives using their fortnite and tencent money.
What they should've done is approach and entice devs to put shit on their store and they've already sweetened the deal with their 12% only cut and the waiving of their unreal engine fee.
What they did instead is outright deny customer choice of purchasing from other store by buying exclusivity.
What's wrong with making games available on multiple store fronts?
Did Valve ever pay for any of the japanese console ports exclusivity? Why do they only release on Steam despite the 30% cut?
Why do the devs needs to be bought to put their games on EGS?

>retardera screeching about darli's design
>it was a woman that designed the character

>if they’re actually targeting more niche games like fighters now
last e3 was just indies and a (high profile) kickstarter game, guess theycant afford too many AAA exclusives

SNK continue to be based

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>forcing countries to pay $20 more is a conspiracy when it's happening this very minute
Sure user, whatever helps you sleep at right. Don't come crying to me when Tim starts charging $80-$90 for games in America too.

Game looks rough but it's full of soul, she gets a new winpose when unarmed too

>Trying to secure exclusivity for a game in a genre that never really does too well on PC.
>a game in a series that while popular among fightan enthusiasts is "literally who" tier to everyone else

y tho

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>Samsho is also funded by chinese investors
Who are based and cunny pilled. A free season pass deal that even extends to a few days after launch is pretty great. Shame netcode will be anus. SNK know they aren't going to be the biggest, but they are providing what their actual fans want. If that leak is to be believed Garou 2 is on the way.

Epic just want to undercut every platform so hard, until they get a big enough share of the market. After that don't expect anything good.

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Damn can’t wait to see the Fortnite money run out one day. Yeah 2 billion is a lot, but when you’re constantly trying to spend it on stupid large investments with no payoff because you have a fad that won’t last long since literally EVERYONE is jumping on it now. They’re going to be shocked that one day they don’t have that money to spend anymore.

If epic wasn’t complete scum they would use that money to pay developers to release a drm free version of their game that wouldn’t release one at all otherwise on their store while having it on other stores like steam well in the traditional way. That’s one way to incentivize people using your store without being complete scum. Or just make a good storefront and use that money to fund new games with an actual budget. Literally anything that’s not what they’re doing now

I'm excited for the game, even more so knowing they don't want to associate with Epic.

Cute!

Epic gives the rest of the Chinese a bad name, lots of Chinese game devs are huge waifufags that care more about putting cute 2d girls in wedding dresses rather than work for the government and control the economy.

>some PC download platform
>some
I don't ever want to hear a single faggot on this board ever say that the nips aren't both based and redpilled after this

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I am actually kind of interested in that upcoming botw ripoff

>B-but it's okay because they give more money to the publishers
you don't understand how game development works user

steam has much more users than a completely new store, devs know they miss out on potential sales, that needs to be compensated

wrong, epic's biggest money maker was and still is Unreal Engine
they take 5% cuts from like a big chunk of the whole current gaming industry from all gaming platforms, not just pc, and from all kinds of revenue, not just game sales
considering that this engine is just getting more and more popular it is unlikely that they would run out of money
still, it has nothing to do, with "funding the lower cuts", only funding exclusivity deals

>Epic charges $100 for games where I live
is that actually true?
this post is related too not trying to defend egs's bad regional pricing if it is seriously this bad in some countries, and it sounds like an ACTUALY flaw, but sorry if I assume that some people are plain lying or overreacting after all the ridiculous shit I read from most of these posts

I live in eastern europe and despite living in a "shithole" country, the prices on egs are pretty much the same as on steam or even psn (both are higher than the original prices to a similar degree)

It is a shame they can't afford to polish all up just a little bit more. The style shines through pretty well but you can't help but notice the rough edges. I'm confident XV will look really good though, they can work off a lot of XIV assets as a base. They still need touched up a lot but it makes the process way easier

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>is that actually true?
there's evidence posted in this thread by some singapor guy

Takes a chink to fight chinks.

Is Samsho easy to play? I like casually playing fighting games but the difficult execution always prevents me from actually getting gud

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Epic ruins 3rd party sites like GMG selling AAA games at 10-20% before launch, due to their bullshit they can't sell the games cheaper
They directly make games more expensive.
EGS is fucking cancer

SamSho is based around big damage and fewer hits. I can't say if that's easier or not but you don't have to worry about long combo strings.

>SamSho is based
really all you needed to say

You don't have too many combos but some characters like the ones with animal partners require more attention

>wasting space on Andy
>no Ikari Warriors
>Kensou gets cucked out by Bao
>not giving Robert his mustache

>some PC download platform
are they not allowed to disclose which company offered the deal? because it's so obviously Epic.

SamSho isn't a combo heavy game, pressure is pretty weak as well. That isn't to say the game doesn't have some powerful bullshit you need to learn, but it all sort of balances out to be neutral focused yet still kind of nutty. You have to get a deep jump in just to get a 3 hit combo. Only difficulty you could face are the inputs.

Also this is a meme move, no way you'd land it I just wanted to post it.

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because he isn't a total retard and that's how those deals generally work

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Does this seem like Epic is doing this out of spite because Microsoft wouldn't let them have Halo?

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I have always had problems with 360s, wierd diagonal double charge moves, srk/fireballs being mixed up mid combo and frame perfect links.

Ralf and Clark are too manly for this type of game, notice how everyone has softer features, even Maxima.

>Epic is going after Jap games now
help me bros

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>theme song of the game is revive the soul

It was on our faces all along.

I'm sure epic tried, but it must've been funny from ms perspective

>Little Chinese owned timmy trying to moneyhat a company worth $1 trillion
>MS telling them good luck trying to get PC gamers to use their shitty store with exclusives

Sounds nice, assuming the inputs aren't too difficult. Some moves are hard to perform on keyboard, but I may just have shitty fingers.

Regarding the move, is the entire webm the move, including the walk? If so that is really slow, but I guess that's why it's a meme.

Yeah, that worries me too.
I don't care about western cancer, but I'm afraid of them getting a Japanese game I actually want

If they try and snipe Code Vein I'm gonna be pissed.

Why do you want Bamco's desperate attempt to clone a FROM game?

>colored eye contacts

i dont understand why people like this, it just makes me extremely uncomfortable making eye contact.

You don't think they'll try to gun for FF7R?

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Not really much of that if any in that in the new Samsho from footage I've seen of it. Worst you might encounter is double half circled or quarter circle forward, half circle back, etc. As others have mentioned, you don't have to worry much about combos or stuff like that, but you'll want to know your buttons and consider what you press a bit more than usual.

Because its a from game with an aesthetic that I prefer. In the same way some chose games based on their theme or artstyle.

wtf i love snk now

Somebody needs to buy it

Leave Hong Kong alone.

Is Tim an idiot?

BASED JAPS

Except it would get more sales on steam.

youtube.com/watch?v=OZTKX_YwC_Y
Code Vein is already confirmed for Steam.

I'd bet a dollar FF7R will happen. Epic would easily drop $100 million+ for that game, especially when they're throwing around millions for literal who games like Phoenix Point.

>Code Vein is already confirmed for Steam.
so was shenmue

I much prefer that to long anime combos.

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SNK modern fgs dont sell anywhere. Others FGS actually sell millions on pc like sf, mk, tekken, dbzf and practically anything thats not low budget.

Finally is stupid to support Epic because it charges less despise being scummy when they already said those cuts were non sustainable. In a near future you will have a regular 30% cut plus the scumminess of epic if they succeed.

If you want these games to keep existing on pc you sell them on a real store with real sales and those real costumers. Not on a store that buys your game. They could buy 2 million copies, but would that expand the franchise?

SNK doesnt need money. Needs people who want to spend money

They wont return to their old glory with fake sales.

Based SNK. I hope that the game make good numbers

>I'd bet a dollar FF7R will happen. Epic would easily drop $100 million+ for that game
No way Square would limit platforms. I'm expecting a multiplatform launch after their time exclusivity is done with Sony.

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>Code Vein is already confirmed for Steam.
Shenmue got changed to be exclusively for Epic not too long after they sent out a survey for what copy backers wanted that specifically listed Steam

Wait, does that mean satisfaggotry's numbers are fake?

>Chinks can get dabbed on
Ironic considering who revived SNK

Code Vein is published by Bandi Namco who are putting loads of games on Steam these days.
Shenmue is published by notorious merchants Deep Silver.

Yes

>not taking the deal
Silly nip devs think their game will sell

The game will still sell like shit like every other SNK game.

correct

Fucking based

PC release will come next year, so we will see.

This image has never been more appropriated.

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I played the network test on PS4 and found a very fun game.
Why you faggots think that From Software is the only developer that makes good games?

Holy shit this is some of the most aggressive moneyhatting I've seen in the context of the vidya industry.

What even is the point of this? Is it just one huge moneylaundering scheme?

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Moves are just you basic quarter circles, DPs and a few half circles. Only one that might give you trouble are the SNK style super moves like quarter circle back half circle forward.

NTR is delicious

tim sweeney is worried that he wont have a backup plan when fortnite dies. unfortunately, in trying to find a backup he is burning his company down faster.

Ralf's been pretty soft before

Nah, If they did snipe Bamco Epic would have been screeching about it at E3. I think Bamco learned their lesson in regards to signing exclusivity deals with unpopular platforms after Vesperia.

Also, did anyone else find it funny how Coffee Stain (Satisfactory) and Annapurna's (Outer Wilds, Ashen) new games were announced to be on Steam and not Epic?

store.steampowered.com/app/915810/Midnight_Ghost_Hunt/
steamcommunity.com/app/915810/discussions/0/1639787494973341955/

store.steampowered.com/app/762830/Telling_Lies/
store.steampowered.com/app/1097200/Twelve_Minutes/

>he thought Samurai Shodown will be for sale million copies

He's in for a rude surprise.

But they have unreal though. Why not just fully become a publisher and fund unreal devs instead of trying to force a jankyass store?

dont ask me, ask sweeney

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Fucking based. I will be getting it when it comes out. Epic is such a shitty Chinese company.

Not even fighter fan but will buy just to contribute spitting on Epic.
I hope my money gets into new metal slug development or something at least.

It already was profitable a month ago on presales. Sure, it wont Sell like DBFZ or SFV, but is not looking so bad. Besides, Iroha will pump up that numbers a bit.

I wish I had the money to do likewise. Hopefully it isn't full price

>/ss/
Ultra based.

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Yeah, the entire walk. Did you notice that she had guard point while spinning her arm? Yasha tried to hit her

Even if you don't compare it to Tekken and SF. It'll still sell poorly.

>buys hundreds of thousands of copies of a game thats exclusive.
I thought they just paid for the exclusivity, why buy copies? Do they distribute them or something?

It's on xbox as well, retard

God's work, user. Saved.

>million copies
That's some confidence. How well did KoF do?

I know SNK Heroines did really well despite being a lower budget title (over 300k copies sold).

Gives them a guaranteed sale of a certain amount. Same as paying them off i guess.

This game is being made on a shoestring budget, if it sells 100K it will make a profit.

saved

Maybe world wide, but in Japan i dont think it will do so bad. I will buy it for sure

>why buy copies

To inflate sales numbers for investors

This shit is fucking insane. Does that mean between now and late last year Epic has been sending hundreds of fucking propositions to all manner of games and publishers?

And the craziest thing about that is not everyone jumped on the deal. If that's not proof that the game industry still has the smallest semblance of integrity left then I don't know what is.

so they can say the game sold x amount of copies, despite no one buying games on the epic store

ummmmm steamdrones?
gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-11-dauntless-reaches-10-million-players

They dont hoard physical copies of the game, that would be retarded.
Those are distributed normally.
They just pay devs no matter how well the digital game sells on Epics digital store.

>Tim claimed that developers would win the store wars, not customers
>Developers are rejecting the EGS

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Literally LITERALLY nobody cares about samsho

>Platforms: Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Windows, Xbox One, PlayStation 4
no one played it on the epic store
they played it on consoles
of course retards will fall easily for this dishonest marketing

It's a free to play game; those always have a very, very big userbase regardless of store or launcher.

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keep seething timmy

Real talk has there been a bigger case of moneyhatting out there? EA perhaps?

there's a female option in the girls' dating game?

Interesting. This must be how Playstation is faking their sales numbers.

There is no way that Horizon sold almost as much as BOTW.

I do, so your statement Is false, fag

I doubt they think it will sell that much. 500k would be a really good number for them. Probably more meant as a phrase, like we can sell million if the game is on more platforms

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Noice thicc Shiki

>they take a small cut
Yes, for now, during their attempt at breaking other stores so they can rule the market.

Why not? It's an open world action adventure game in the console with the biggest playerbase.
Sony doesn't need to do such things because they're the dominant player in the console landscape.

Tim cared enough to the point where he tried to bribe them

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horizon has the install base of 90million and billions for a marketing budget you dumb nintendofag. Not to mention Zelda is not as mainstream as you think. BotW is the first zelda since like OoT that has sold this well.
Horizon is also on sale for like 10 bucks all the time.

WHERE'S GEN-AN YOU FAGGOTS?

This is actually frightening. If Epic succeeds never mind Steam they'll probably be fine but they can legitimately kill off GoG.

I plan to buy it and play it. Stay mad epic fag

Hey if Epic already bought a copie of the game in my stead why do i have to pay for mine ?

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The game's getting a good amount of attention

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Stay mad chink

Can you kill something already dead?

>They're the dominant player in the console landscape

Lol no they aren't.

Since you're all here, I've been wondering. What's the breakdown of the cut the developer gets if you purchase their game physical vs digital on PSN or steam? I just want to support SNK as much as I can

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You dont, thanks Tim!

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Stay mad epicfag

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The cut is exactly the same, but physical would go do the retail store, while digital would go do PSN or Steam.

I'm not a fan of SamSho, hell I'm not even a fan of fighting games in general but this, this pretty much confirms my purchase of the game. Why? You always gotta support these kind of things.
Also any way to preorder on PC? I really want that free season pass which really REALLY made SNK even more based.

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The jew fears the samurai

This Is probably true. Maybe over a couple of years they will be able to Sell one million on all systems, but we are talking about a series that was dead for almost two decades, so its not a surprise. Its looking good so far for what it is

You know these series is going to tank right? Zoomers know jack about these series and after sekiro and nioh, the consumer doesn't want another game set in japan.

Game has already done well

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On an honest answer, yes competition is good, but EGS is trying to compete in a way that is just pissing people off, GOG doesn't do any of the shit that EGS does and is doing well, if we are going to list all the problems
>the increased cut isn't benefiting developers since it goes to the publishers
>the cut in itself isn't sustainable, and we know that because they pratically spelled out that it was being subsidised by Fortnite, once the Fortnite money goes away this cut will change
>the store is inferior to almost every other online store in the market, and they are acting as if they were the best
>EGS not doing anything to reassure people about data protection
>taking away games that were already up for pre-order or scheduled to be released in other platforms, sometimes days away of release, messes with people's expectations, and any first year marketing student would be able to tell you that it is bad PR
>Their condescending and sometimes antagonizing attitude towards players isn't doing them any favors
>Screwing with kickstarter backers
>If EGS wants exclusives then they should go after unannounced games, nobody complained about Hades being an exclusive, since it was announced as an exclusive day one
There's some more, but they are mostly minor or expanding on some of the above issues

They are dicks, but it's hilarious as fuck for watching Steamdrones scream at them

It's the main character.

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>Heroines
>300K
Holy shit. Very nice to SNK.

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But Is a fighting game. It has nothing to do with Sekiro and Nioh other than the Samurái theme.

>AAA games being $5 in Russia
Otherwise they will cost $0.
Also, as a Russian, EGS prices are higher than Steam's. People generally hate EGS there but it doesn't help that EGS' marketing director is an Ukrainian who is active in Russian vidya community. Paid shills and lefties are running rampant with calling everyone who doesn't want to suck corporate cock incels.

who is that wonderful waifu? I unironically think I'm in love

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Ez game.

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I think she is Ange from Cross Ange?

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In this case support for the company makes total sense because fighting games are already a very limited niche, SNK garbage being even more so.

>1M on just PC
That's pretty optimistic considering even mainstream fighters usually hit around 2M total on 3 or 4 platforms. Guess the PC sales of XIV and Heroines was more promising than I'd assumed.

>EGS is so shit that it's making me consider buying a console
Fucking hell, that's impressive.

>The game will still sell like shit like every other SNK game.

Keep Crying Bitch Nigga.

i dont think it's going to sell a million copies but im very sure snk doesn't want it on the egs because they rather not piss of their loyal fans

Thanks for the games Tim!

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>after sekiro and nioh, the consumer doesn't want another game set in japan.
Stop projecting, faggot

going after a niche fighter like this pretty much confirms that they went after everyone

It's a surprise only Outer Worlds, BL3, and arguably Exodus were the only big name titles they got.
Like legitimately surprising.

youtube.com/watch?v=Nv2GGqlPJAU

couldn't buy a chink timmy tencent? seething timmy tencent? Sucking china's dick timmy tencent?

So is this why Epic is just going for that free game a week shit instead?

Because barely anybody fell for their exclusivity deals?

Based but I doubt samsho will sell millions.
Maybe 1.x mil but not more than 2

Wouldn't surprise me if they sent out a boilerplate offer to anyone using Unreal.

>japan on PC
>primary audience
Yikes.

Pretty depends on how big and greedy the publishers are. 2K and deep silver are one of those now.

They honestly should've taken it 100%. Fighting games sell like shit on PC and die off in the first month.

Epic is literally gunning for crowd funded games or some popular niche. No way Square is going to limit sales on a fucking marvel property.

Stfu sonytard. You've been proven wrong hundred of times before.

Pc in Japan may not be big but there is quiet a number of them, big enough to be profitable. And Japan really do care for their Japanese audience and well EGS isn't really well know yet in japan, and if they are Japan probably doesn't like the store as well for their lack of Japanese games. Just look at sega and their report of yakuza which said the pc version was a success, even for Japanese audience.
So epic proabably already asked alot of Japanese game but they declined because of these reasons.

>what is tekken 7

Also soul calibur

His wife takes dozens of cocks every night. Trust me, I play Honey Select

Wow no one helped at all? What the hell you niggers?

if they sold something near the numbers of snk heroines (300k) on steam then theyve already made a profit off of it. theres a very small pc audience, sure, but it would be stupid to risk that just for short-term profits.

kek, you're just thinking about short term profits and alienating your base
here's a highly secret tip that nobody knows, epic will not keep paying and guarantying the sales for every single game you release
good thing you're not making any business decisions

i was checking and the store page on steam isnt up yet, but thats just because it will be releasing later in winter, along with switch release. so yeah, might be better to check back in later in the year

So how long until some new fad game shows up and all the kids bail on Epic's cashcow?

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Welp, i no longer regret making that todd roster OC. Good drawing.

Autochess.

Too bad the OG devs have an exclusivity deal with Epic already.

twitter.com/ManChest/status/1112769638964682752
Here are the movelists

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Has Amakusa been announced yet?

Thanks for the games Tim

Look at this dumbass spic who thinks a SNK game will hit 1mill. Neck yourself

Fucking based

It was obvious

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this isn't as good as it sounds.
they dodged epic on pc but the pc version has no release date.
also the game won't have crossplay.

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how is that legal?

not many fight games or games in general are going to have crossplay, get over it already

>Out of nowhere brings Sony.

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ACA Neo Geo Switch releases did

It's legal, but kinda immoral. Just like paying youtubers/streamers to shill your game like Apex legends did.

so you're allowed to say you sold 500k copies even if 90% of those are from epic?

bandai's community manger said this
twitter.com/RashBandai/status/1138852847221653507?s=09

this pretty much and dead or alive as well, I still play some online matches of 5 and 6 on PS4 and X box, though not as many players

going out of business is "respectable"? when will they release the next game, another 15-20 years?

I know this sounds wrong but yes.

isnt that the obvious way this deal should work?

arent valve and riot releasing something like that?

and spider man

SNK is doing well enough that they are ramping production to release more than one game per year, the mobile games and licensing are raking on cash.

>pirates everything. Even free games

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I'm buying the game for myself and then buying extras to give out as gifts.

if your business can only survive off the good will of chinese overlords, then yes going out of business is respectable.

>Bandai Namco MENA
didn't know they had middle eastern division
>My Tweets are my own.
its not really a confirmation, anything might happen

It just keeps happening.

also go back and distribute them on resetera

maybe those trannies can play a real game for a change

seethe harder, shill

6 4 1989

>All the losers who didn't buy the game on PS4
lies, like some other user said. fighting games that dont have the words Street Fighter or Tekken die as quickly as they do on other platforms

Okay real talk you retards. A big reason why nip devs are hesitant to leave steam is because they're the only so far who're pandering hard to the weird ass payment methods that the Japanese use.

This is why they've penetrated the asian market.

I thought Epic didn't care about Japanese games.

thats how desperate they are

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>shill

I'm not the SJW retard who is buying multiple copies for a 'cause'

you're no different than the resetera trannies

how could they not, did you see the leaked sold numbers of shenmue 1 and 2 for PS4? it sld around 20,000 copies.

Shenmue has always been niche and only got waves of applause on E3 because of the Street Cred of people wanting to be cool by loving shenmue so if Epic is going to guarantee 200,000 sales than its a win for them.

You idiots are just firing from the hip at this point, aren't you? Just blindly shouting whatever meme rattling around in that empty head of yours happens to find its way to your face. Stay mad, tim.

This.
Now once Epic does the same non-standard payment procedure Steam provides in Asia then we're going to see Japanese devs jump ship.

>stretching this hard for an insult

>resetera
LMAO

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if a game is a commercial failure, it should flop desu

which one, I mean I´ve bought a bunch of neogeo games on my switch but which game has sold wonders on the switch?

what the fuck even is this payment methods you fags are talking about?

Dota autochess is the original but the devs behind it got bought out by epic, as a consequence valve is planning to release it as a standalone soon and riot is mimicking them, yes.

How do they guarantee sales? They just pay up the difference, if it doesn't sell enough?

they just fuck it up, they game is gonna release on pc at a later date, the hype gonna go down, it gonna sell like shit in pc

your mom pays for it
taking turns on the greasy cocks

>resetera
>buying anything in the first place

this might be true and all, but nip devs are carried on the backs of waifufags and other jap title enthusiasts who are mainly the ones always up in arms in this steam/epic debacle. epic can guarantee sales, yes, but they forget how vindictive the playerbase is for shit like this, meaning they can pretty much kill any hype for next titles.
this isnt just for nip devs too, check this out

Fortnite money is huge

Resetera is already seething with SNK because of the otome game name

PC is kinda hungry fdor a new fighting gamme though. Everyone's still playing T7 and that shitting SFV. Soulcalibur was supposed to be the next big one but Project Soul didn't even give people a finished game. I don't think it's going to be a blockbuster but it is coming at a good time, during a drought.

Technically SNK is already own by chinks anyway. The only thing Epic would probably give them is a higher budget for once

Yes but not by Tencent, the Chinese owner is an actual fan and apparently got pissed off on how KoF XIV looked

>s-snk gonna be bankrupt since they didn't accept epic offer

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you answered your own question. if it doesnt sell enough, epic basically pays them enough in exclusivity deals to guarantee, say 500k copies. im sure people in this thread already explained this, but thats the basic gist of it.

Sauce of this?

I feel like if they were they wouldn't have been allowed to decline the deal.

>People got made about it being called for girls
>Japanese fujos fucking loving it

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Huh seriously? Why is Epic targeting Japanese games now? I thought Sweeney said he's only after Western devs due to the larger ROI.

Wut

I dunno what Steam offers, but this should give you an idea:
>thepaypers.com/expert-opinion/payment-methods-and-practices-in-japan/772040

I hate Charlotte's new look. the full armor looked better than the new stripper outfit. call me a discord tranny I don't care

Maybe their western investments are not paying off anymore, so they're trying to expand their audience. Makes sense with how rushed the Shenmue 3 deal seems considering June 4th it was still supposed to be on Steam

Sweeney is a big liar.

discord tranny

discord tranny

>And the new KOF otome game literally broke japanese twitter yesterday.
This was really surprising.

She's basically wearing the same thing, just she's wearing a miniskirt to show off her legs instead of the skirt she used to wear.

This isn't the first time Charlotte has worn lighter gear

Fighting games dont sell millions on PC. Samsho might reach that on consoles but not PC.

They pay the publishers a guaranteed minimum number of sales, enough to ensure the game is profitable before it even releases. That's why it's so hard for the publishers to refuse them.

pretty sure they meant total.

SNK is owned by 37 Games, one of the bigger Tencent rivals.

You might be under-estimating just how much it costs for servers. I remember doing a very rough estimate for server costs a while ago; numbers are always going to vary between how you're going about it, but if you rent Amazon server space then the costs can be something like;

10,000 logins per day (not 10,000 users simultaneously, just 10,000 people separately logging in and out over 24 hours) can easily equal around $600 per DAY. Over a year you're approaching a quarter million; your profits are going to disappear. There's a reason Capcom nerfs fight money and sells so much cosmetic stuff; they need the money for server costs.

I'd like cross-play too, but it's so incredibly expensive to build and maintain.

PC is king for Europe, except funnily enough for XIV. The PS4 version doesn't really have a massive number either, but it's good enough that you can play between 5pm to 1am and get matches with little issue. PC is a ghost town, or it's just terrible players who can't improve due to how few are playing.

I mean, how many times has Microsoft tried to break into the market as a new market? The new Xbox App is going to be their fucking 3rd attempt.

because it looks bad if a game goes exclusive and it doesn't sell many copies
Imagine generic indie game #12359 selling 200 copies on egs, that would be embarrassing for them so they buy a couple hundred thousand so the devs can brag that their game sells well on egs.

Skullgirl sold a million copies through Steam. PC has long legs, and this can happen long period of time.

SNK isn't desperate for money. They are owned by 37Games, who happens to be a competitor to Tencent.

They don't need EPS's money. SNK need good will because SNK's brand loyalty and imagery is more valuable then whatever money EPS can give them. SNK's brands are the only thing keeping the company alive.

This deal doesn't bring anything under then free subsides money, which again they don't need because 37games grants them that.

There attempts have been really fucking shitty
>tried to bring xbox live type subscriptions on pc with GFWL
>killed GFWL and broke a lot of games (rip lost planet 2)
>tried to capture the PC audience again with the microsoft store
>every single game got ruined by UWP
Now they're onto the xbox app which is still in beta so we'll see if this attempt is any better

Last two years are one of the few eras where SNK actually profited.

Kikes BTFO

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They just launched a mobile KoF game with Tencent. I don't think this is why they didn't take the money.

I fucking knew those kikes at EGS were up to something.

Why would you sell your soul to chinks when you already sold it to chinks?

Epic was late to the party.

tianamen square

now was that so fucking hard
meanwhile when every other dev took the exclusivity deal it's all boohoo they're coerced into it boohoo evil publishers they have no choice epic is evul

Some devs prefer to make gaming industry a better place, some preffer money. Which is why devs that care about money will choose steam ,they lack long term thinking.

Which chinaman bought them out again? Wasn't it like the son of a billionaire or something or am I thinking wrong?

Did heroines seriously sell 300k on steam?

Hasn't the majority of these sellouts been because of Deep Silver?

>PC fats still won't buy it

doesn't matter

>Skullgirl sold a million copies through Steam.

Skullgirls never celebrated selling a million copies and had several free weekends, not to mention often selling for a $1.
So not only are we sure it never hit 1 million, the numbers it actually did are smaller than any Steam tracker can attest to.

No. This is for all platforms and still is a really good number for the game.

I wouldn't say most but a lot have. It's usually kickstarter trash too

>THE STATE OF EPIC
Imagine being such a shitty online storefront that you have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy copies of the game that you got exclusively from.

So assuming we get more bigwig Kickstarters do you think they'll start having disclaimers about Epic? Or maybe not mention the distribution platform for pc?

They'll simply say "digital PC code" without naming Steam or the EGS at all

pretty stupid considering they condemn PC version (as well as Switch) to be DOA by releasing it half a year after console release

Wouldn't that imply Epic is going to buy them out right away?

So what are the chances of them trying to get Granblue Versus when that comes to PC you think? I mean Cygames would probably laugh at their deal despite all the normie money Fortnite made since it has nothing on gacha whales. However I do worry with Xseed and it does depend if they publish the PC version. It’s a grey area if it’s Xseed and Cygames just might let them do whatever and handle something like that without being too in with the details. Probably just paranoid since any fighting game that gets released as an exclusive has zero chance at survival, as in less then 4 players max where it would be 50-100 worse on steam. I like playing on my PC more, but I genuinely would just stick to the ps4 version for any fighter if their pc version is on epic.

i'm going to have to double buy it for the PS4 and then PC.

>Epic is gunning for Jap developed games now.
For the love of fuck, NO!

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Hit em where it hurts

Those weekly free games now make sense.

SE is butt buddies with valve

like it matters 99.99% of jap games are shit ports on PC and i doubt EPIC will give a shit

I find it pretty funny that the only time they got a nip game into their store was when a western publisher fucked it up.

What's Epic endgame? Do they want people to hate them even more?

IIRC Cygames' CEO said that he likes Steam and wants to put more games on it, so I think we're safe.
I think they said the offer was made last December, which is when EGS launched, so that means they were gunning for them to begin with.

It would release at the same time anyway user. Epic can't stop time.

They collab with tencent to produce these weird google home-esque figurines

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the West forgets that Japan has a Strong PC culture thanks to Origin Systems and Id software

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I can't wait, I literally cannot wait, I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT for this "epic" scheme to come crashing down on Sweeney's and Tencent's fucking faces

Gaben will have the last laugh yet just you wait and see, this is the most unsustainable business model I've ever seen, they think they can curry favor and win customers by just throwing tons of money at everyone, can't fucking wait for that money to dry up and the scheme collapse under its own epic weight of shame and deceit.

Oh how glorious it will be.

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As another user said, Japanese devs are a hard sell for the EGS for 3 main reason:
It's always hard for them to try something too different from what they're accustomed to, just look how much time it took for companies like Namco to get on Steam. At the same time, now that they are on Steam, they have little reason to try something different specifically for the second point
Steam has a massive chinese or SEA in general userbase, who are very vocal but also surprisingly seem to buy games if they have chinese localization. Most japanese pc games cater to them beside the usual european countries where PC is big, and while Epic can subsize for the EU losses in userbase they can't do that for the chinese as the EGS is actually not fully compatible with asian payment methods
Lastly, it's very obvious Steam has a massive weeboo install base, which is surprising since not even 3 years ago only a limited amount of japanese games were on Steam. Just look at how Koikatsu, an Illusion developed game (the one that make porn games, that "Illusion") released last week on Steam. The risk of pissing off this group is simply too big since they would end up being even more vocal that the chinese, and at the same time could play literally any other japanese game currently on Steam, and no matter how much money Fortnite makes they can't buy all of Xseed, Idea Factory, Namco, Capcom, Square Enix, Sega, Nisa, Spike Chunsoft and obviously Cygames new PC releases

Just look at Twin Mirror: Namco was the publisher worldwide, then the EGS exclusive happened and now DONTNOD says they bought back the rights for the game and namco only publishes the console version. Or even the topic of this thread. Shenmue feels like an exception because of Deep Silver (which are very invested in EGS), not the rule

I wonder how much control Deep Silver had on that. Did they just do it on their own or did Ys give the okay.

Tekken 7 is still alive on PC

Don't forget Steam got SEA by the balls because of Dota too.

Forget Fortnite. Mobile Legends and PUBG mobile is more popular there.

>buy copies at launch
>later give them away as free games
What do you think those free games at egs are?

Judging by Cum Stain tweets they buy about ~500k copies.

Mike z literally did celebrate million sales on Twitter.

I rather go by developer numbers then steam spyware.

7,374 RESOLD copies to be exact. They are counting those and artificially inflating numbers.

Who is then?

Apparently they had "discussions" with each other over it.

I feel like sub would be Aniki

Literally buying this game now I never intend to play just to spite Epic.

I think that the people playing sam sho in fightcade just will move on to this one. Keep in mind that this will be the first one on pc, so the hardcore gamers of the series will be on board. Besides, the game is very different from other fighting games, its not like you have a ton of other similar options.

Why do people hate Epic so much? Honest question. It's literally just a storefront.

>inb4 China spies
SNK belongs to a ChingChong Company, so do they spy on you and leak your private information too?

Whats the deadline for the free season pass? Also how will that work for the later switch release. Not sure if to buy now or hold out.
SNK doesnt require spyware

I'm glad they didn't give in to Epic's bullshit, but they might be overestimating Samsho's sales. Especially considering it's coming much later to PC.

user it's been proven that the Epic Store is literal spyware.

Honestly surprised they most likely rejected Epic.
Yasha, Haoh and Shiki look cool so I'll buy this.

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Ok, just to make this clear, I'm not a shill, I pirate every game. Buying game is stupid.

1 nuke on mainland china and you fix every single problem on Earth

But then where does SNK get the money for Garou 2?

>shitty business practices
>games are usually more expensive than on Steam (less sales, no key resellers)
>don't want to split my library/friends list/everything else across several accounts
I don't even mind the chinkyness of it, it's just a fucking pain in the ass for the same reasons the EA/Ubisoft/Bethesda/Activision/whatever launchers are a pain in the ass. Except it's being way more aggressive than any of those.

Is there a single fighter on the market that's more based than SamSho? I don't think there is

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Yeah,no.

Well for me it doesn't have regional pricing so games are usually more expensive for me because currency conversion from dollars, also no refunds as far as I'm aware, it's even worse than Uplay which is just absurd.

Friendly reminder that steam is spyware as well spyware.neocities.org/articles/steam.html

Square-Enix has a tight relationship with Valve, they wouldn't do it.

>Square-Enix has a tight relationship with Valve
Source?

KoF is still better.

Hope to see some good SFM with Shiki.

>Spyware Level: EXTREMELY HIGH
Oh no. Gaben know about my fav doujins.

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>Steam will not work without an internet connection
What? I play offline all the time.

she's not for lewd.

Wait a second. I thought Epic wasn't interested in Japanese games and was even quoted saying so. What's with the sudden change?

Yes

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this site looks like it was created in 1998

Epic guarantees sales if a game doesn't sell well on their store after the exclusive deal is made, that's why most people find it hard to believe when Epic or a developer/publishers goes out to say the game sold really well on Epic Store, because while that can be true, there's that lingering doubt that these figures were just Epic paying for these copies to make up for sales that coud've been made had the game been released on other digital distribution platforms like GOG or Steam.

I don't know about KOFXIV, but aparently Samurai Shodow already made it's money back on preorders alone, or so I heard.

Wait so people really were right when they said Epic paid off most of Satisfactory's sales?

No. This is not a new info btw, we know about how epic deal work for months.

>should of
commit sudoku.

not him, but I'm sure Square and other major publishers are part of the club that get charged 20% instead of the standard 30%. maybe lower.

Not taquerías. Papelerías and tortillerías. Back in the 90's that's how Mexicans used to forge their character, fistfighting with someone over $1 peso because he won using Rugal. Not even kidding.

Epic said the EGS wouldn't support SEA countries, but now it does
Epic said the EGS would not have store wide sales because it makes games releasing during those sell like crap, but they are running one now
Epic said they weren't interested in japanese games or crappy games, but now are courting japanese developers (and there are a number of very poorly received games on their store)

The explanation is: the store is not going as well as they hoped, and so they're going back on what they said

Pretty sure Ys gave them the okay, while Deep Silver is publishing Shenmue 3, they don't have the rights, those belong to Ys Net/Yu Suzuki, which means they had to go through him at some moment.

And considerig he, just like a certain other japanese conman, made a second crowdfunding to get even more money, and then, supposedly, got more funding from a publisher, I'd say the decision was more his than Deep Silver's, not that they must've hesitated at all, these assholes probably didn't even let Suzuki finish his proposition before saying yes to the Epic thing.

Does the epic store even have japanese language support
Why would they ever put a game on there

I WANNA DATE TODD

They will regret this.
EGS is powered by the endless goldmine of Fortnite money. EGS is here to stay, and if they start losing, just spend more unlimited money to recover.

Shenmue 3 was a desperate death rattle. Microsoft is muscling in on their monthly service to where people can pay to play Metro Exodus, and Outer Worlds for $5 or $14.00 a month. Ruining their exclusivity plan.& then there is Steam getting most of the Halo games and Destiny. They're probably trying to get the Senran Kagura devs as we speak.

But user, they did not said that. Remember about your pills

jesus they really are buying the game for you
pirates are always right....

It's better for Epic if the game sells well.

>Epic pays dev 1mil for exclusivity
>Money for copies sold after the release are split between epic and the devs

>Epic buys copies worth 1 mil
>Money goes straight into Epic's pocket until the game sells enough copies to make them their 1 million back

Simple motions, but I would still recommend getting a control if at all possible (Stick is a bit too much to ask for someone who is new. That being said, if your concern is execution, the game is easy in that regard, it's about other stuff.

News

SNK will be exclusive to epic but only for 6 months. EGS wanted it to be full time exclusive.

Fortnite will die off soon. That income will dry up. And publishers are pulling the plug on EGS left right and center in recent weeks.

Maybe because they're sniping games? They could just release them both on steam and epic and coexist, nobody would give a shit, but they have to employ jew tactics to make more cash.

He should have taken the deal desu.
Samurai Shodown is not that great and will make less profit if they don't give exclusivity to Epic.

I respect his decision, but if he wanted to make money he should have gone with exclusivity.
Samurai Shodown will sell like KOF XIV did.
Outside of Japan and PS4 it will not sell well.

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I know this topic has nothing to do with it, but I am proud Unist is getting at least some recognition, it's great.

Read the thread, loli.

If he took the money it would have killed his game. Could you really live with yourself knowing you had to take the cop out option cause you thought your game wouldn't sell well enough?
Naw he probably doesn't actually think it'll sell a million copies but very least comparable to what it'd have got on epic. Plus this way he'll be able to gain more fans for the franchise and potentially get a sequel going. With the epic route I highly doubt we'd get a sequel.

Clearly profit isn't everything and isn't the only thing that holds weight

Even if Fortnite dies, Epic still has Unreal 4 making them tons of money through royalties, and you can bet your ass they'll make Unreal 5 for the next generation, and make it as accessible and give as much support as they did for UE4.

There's also Tencent's infinite money works

Fuck off chink

Which one?

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>They can't handle two versions at the same time
>Developing the game for Xbox and PS4 simultaneously
>With Unreal 4 at that, one of the easiset engines to optimize
Based retard, fucking Arika, with less money and less employees, took less time to put Fighting EX Layer on PC

The Skyrim one, I can mod him to be less shitty.

real KoF fans play on console and are frm Japan or south america.

The game will come out. Some fags on twitch will pick it up pretending they are good at the game and then flush it because its boring as hard.
Steam fags will pick up thinking this is their break to get into fighting gaames, they will get bored and flush.
PS4 fags will pick upp the game, play it and mever know or care if SNK told epic to go fuck themselves.

Again, I respect his choice but PC westernfags, who are the only people who complain about Epic, will not give a fuck about Samurai Shodown. The sales on Epic or Steam will be menial to make a difference.

Nice try for the quads but it's not going to play out that way.

Best case scenario, EGS gets yeeted from the atmosphere after some shitty decision that causes most of their """exclusive""" publishers to fuck off.

Worst case scenario, EGS sticks around but has nothing but mediocre games or contractual exclusives, nothing stellar sorta like EA with Origin, or Blizzard with Battle.net.

Either way, EGS is currently utilizing an unsustainable business model. They cannot continue riding the coat tails of Fortnite's success and a lot of devs are starting to favor Unity over Unreal after Steam dropped greenlight and unity asset flips stopped appearing as frequently, thus reducing the bad rep unity got as a result. Epic Games knew this, which is why they were quick to incentivize publishers by waiving the licensing fees for unreal if the game was launched as an EGS exclusive.

Don't get me wrong. Epic Games knows exactly what they are doing. Problem is they are basing it off of a model that's barely sustainable on console due to widespread misinformation and propaganda. On PC it won't last forever.

I'm happy that SNK had the pride to turn them down and I fucking hate the Epic store front, but like, goddamn, that's a lot of confidence for a resurrected franchise by a company that has a long history of poor business decisions.

>expecting 1 Million sales

I hope they flop

The epic shill fears the day of the ricecooking

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>SS looks like shit

Didn't Sweeney had stated that EGS wouldn't not allow shit games?

user, please, it's 37 degrees here, why do you have to make me do more work for no reason?

Epic store won't sell crappy games, or porn games: pcgamer.com/the-epic-store-wont-accept-crappy-games-says-ceo-tim-sweeney/

No store wide sales and other things (couldn't find a better source since it was said in a russian podcast by Galyokin): resetera.com/threads/the-epic-games-store-as-described-by-sergey-galyonkin-steamspy-creator-currently-at-epic-update-sergey-clarifying-points-on-twitter.93249/page-6#post-16856224

Not available in china (middle of the article): theverge.com/2018/12/4/18124203/epic-games-fortnite-valve-steam-game-store-distribution-unreal-engine

These were all things that were said by Sweeney or Galyonkin, and they all changed their minds in these 6 months

>and a lot of devs are starting to favor Unity over Unreal
doubt.jpg

I'm pretty sure other devs have mentioned this before.

Wu first.

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> lot of devs are starting to favor Unity over Unreal
You mean indie devs right? Because when the big boys aren't using proprietary engines, they're going for Unreal Engine 4. The only time I've ever seen a big developer use Unity was Capcom and that fucking awful competitive online RE game.

DELETE

DON'T DELETE

Based SNK

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What was this thread you are referring to? Did it have insider info?

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>sudoku over should of
you seem to have a ship on your shoulder.

they are already succeeding in preorders, seething loser

Unironically kinda want to buy it just because of this

SNK delivers as always

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SNK sure knows how to make waifus

so was metro and people even had their preorders

Why?

Epic is the worst storefront worldwide , i know its the same for you americans and the people of west europe but for all the other world is shit the epic store have so many less features than steam like
worst regional prices than steam
no refund policy in my region
less controller support
no cards(i resell them)
poor profiles comparesd with steam

EPIC STORE IS CANCER but more Cancer for us thirdworlders

He is a capcomdrone.

The fuck is this, why all of them are so pretty?

Nah, they fear the divine wind. The one that sunk their warships when they tried to invade, and the one that destroyed american ships in Hawaii.

>The only time I've ever seen a big developer use Unity
so you never heard of hearthstone, gwent and thronebreaker, or fallout shelter?

It's a dating sim, looking pretty is obligatory.

Dating sim

because i don't want any more bloatware in my pc
i don't give a fuck about spyware and all that bullshit i just don't wanna install another fucking store, steam is more than enough
fuck you

Needs Chang and Choi. Real man dont look like that! REEEEE

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That's a real SNK game or just a fan-made one?

100% real, otome games are very popular in Japan.

Go to bed Chang.

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kofg.net/

They pay for both. An exclusivity upfront cash and (if the sales have not been good) they have a minimum sales guarantee.