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Gotta suffer to know the joy

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Pass is vee
Rains gotta let up sometime

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I was doomed the second I added one extra button to that throw combo

oh boy playing this after just waking up from sleeping is not ok

Got lost in Collection of Mana hype so I missed out yesterday. Here's hoping I pull out some non auto-pilot stuff out tonight.

About to do the same though I did spent a alittle bit of time warming up.

I wonder if j236C would have worked

>Got lost in Collection of Mana hype so I missed out yesterday
glad i'm not the only one. I love mana so i bought that shit ASAP even though it is overpriced. Currently playing through Secret again before i start Trials. Just beat the Fire Gigas and got Gnome.

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Come get that premium Carmine experience while you can since kaizer is around

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I see you've been practicing, Sai. your pressure looks a lot better in the last week or two we've run into eachother in the lobby.

I guess playing right after waking up helped me to play a more relaxed pressure game right now haha.

Then again, it is pretty interesting how even small changes like approaching with dash followed by 5A can mix things up.

Oh shit, I didn't know Chaos' 6C was a projectile.

It's an honest projectile while sion's bullets aren't for some fucking reason

It is? I had no idea.

Nice. Hopped on FFA first myself. Think I have the cart lying around for it too in storage somewhere.

Glad that the series is seeing a resurrection in the West again even if the last release (SoM remake) was not exactly the greatest one.

i cant remember how to play this game send help

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You've incorporated better grab and rebeat pressure based on what I just saw. I do better after getting some sleep before the lobby too, but I haven't been doing that recently.

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Yep, checked the wiki. It really is.

Wrong image, but whatever.

Give me the quick rundown on where to start with this series. I think most RPG series I've played have all died out

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Well i wouldn't consider Mana as any different. as far as i'm concerned Mana died out with Legend on the PS1 being the last good one. Of course the upcoming Trials remake looks great so i am looking forward to that.
It's hard for me to recommend Mana as a series, because even though i love it fiercely, i know nostalgia is a huge part of why. The art and music are both incredible, but the gameplay is extremely simple by modern standards and the story is a standard "the heroes of light collect the powers they need to save the world" type of affair.

I suppose that's true that I did make a few changes to my tick throwing to make it less obvious in the middle of pressure as well as not go full unga on mashing buttons during pressure

And I just got locked out just now, haha. Fun times. Here's hoping I can make the changes to my pressure game more consistent like yours is.

Oh but to answer your question, any game in the series works as an entry point, they're all standalone stories.

Legend of Mana is one of my favorite games of time nice taste bros

I enjoy kiseki so that shouldn't be a problem.
I'd rather bank on nostalgiafaggotry than light novel tropes in my rpgs.

>Split second thought that Hilda 22C was like Phonon 22C
Maybe it's my day of the week to be tired

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Looks like I've gotta take a break for abit to aid my friends in some CS so hopefully I'll be back later.

GGs for now and thanks for the fun ones if I don't make it back in time.

Collection has the 3 games that are most universally liked (although FFA has 2 remakes that change the story while also adding more gameplay elements).

Everything after is hit or miss depending on the person I'd argue.

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I'll come in to play a bit later.

Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) is my favorite although i haven't played Trials of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 3), and i've heard Trials is the best of them.
Legend of Mana is incredible too, but it's kind of it's own thing with a much more irregular game structure.

One of my friends wants to play some bb, good games everyone, sorry for dippin kinda early

GGs

Connection seems a bit weird tonight for me. Keep getting disconnected on other people's games.

CF or CTB? My opinion of your friend depends heavily on the answer to this.

ggs pc lobby its time for bed. i dunno if i'll be able to stay awake tomorrow, so if not here tomorrow, i look forward to meeting some of you guys at garage gear.

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GGs my dude.

Kaizer?
GGs, good to fight ya again

GGs.

>All 1 bar connections
This is gonna be a fun night.

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Oh yeah, kaizer.
If you're free on the 20th next month
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Damn, time flies too fast. Only 5 weeks until the tourney.

Interesting that it lands on a Saturday.

What the fuck? Why did the invalid combo keep going? I was holding the entire time.

I just ordered my mic too.

You could've bought some nice $10 headphones for a mic instead.

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Did mag chicken block and then j236C?

that sounds like something i'd do, so probably yeah.

Nah, then you'd just hear my fan buzzing in the back.
Unless you can recommend a cheap but decent pair.

Part of me feels like that shouldn't be allowed.
And jesus, I forgot my throw VO combo twice.

I try my best to use whatever underhanded tactic i can think of to win. I don't think i'd be able to keep up with the rest of you if i didn't.

I can't stop playing the new PoE update bros... I know I should be practicing but I just got to maps and the exalts keep dropping

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I haven't played PoE since they added the 7th class. I remember having fun with a ranger built around using blood for spells and lifesteal per enemy hit on lightning arrow.

Gonna have to call it here PC Lobby. I was just reminded that I promised to be free manual labor tomorrow morning. I'll leave the lobby up so you guys can keep playing.

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>promised to be free manual labor
helping a friend move?

CF, ya it was me

Helping my girl setup a work event.

>CF
i love that game, but i'm even worse at it than i am at UNIST.

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Do it
Speaking of CF, I don't think I've yet to fully move onto it from CPEX since I had my best combos in that version. 5k with Relius in the corner was so simple back then.

it's fucking insane now, I took the last league off because a lot of previous league mechanics needed to be fine tuned for inclusion into standard gameplay and the new synthesis mechanic was implemented poorly. But this new league is the most fun I've had in a long ass time.

leveling masters has with shitty sidequests been completely replaced with fully fleshed out content, which can kind of replace end game content like maps. also there are 10 acts now/have been for a while

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Room full?

It's been a really long time since I fought dia. Didn't think I'd even get a round.

Yezzir

Mag really knows how to use that assault with pho.

That went better than expected.
Didn't think I'd even get a round.

Remember clawz
Tell ALL fireballs to fuck off if you're in range and have meter

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Now that was the match with Atic I was expecting.

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Don't mind me, I'm just reverting to mash-and-don't-want-to-block-in-neutral mode every other match this whole week.

9 frames is no good for Yuzu

Just one of those weeks, it'll be all good next week I bet. I need to remember you don't DP much on wake-up and that Orie's 5A has a lot more range than I think.

Anyone here can give me any tips? Kinda new with Vatista.

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Is the lobby full?

Yes

Use more gems in neutral to control space. Practice confirming off 5C and 2C > 2A in neutral. Get those combos down.

Yeet

I didn't know Mag played Orie.
Also he can do the combo loop no problem.
Life is unfair

Hold 1 or 3 depending on your side to buffer not only a flashkick but also a fireball.
Always have crystal out to bail yourself out of moves
FF is mostly used on the ground to end strings IIRC
Don't forget A+B in the air exists
CS and just beedrill people up close

He's had a pocket Orie for like a year. Also he was mostly doing the day 1 A starter combo. You had the same problem I had early and kept getting 214C instead of 2C > 4C, so just be careful to return to neutral after pressing 2C before doing 4C.

There was a period where i hit a hard wall with Phonon and stopped playing her entirely and tried to learn Orie instead. I'm pretty happy with how good i got with Orie although i've let her rust so badly i can only really do her basic tutorial combos now.

So kinda the same thing I had with Yuzu, but I played Orie cause I loved playing as Kat in GBFV

I picked up Orie because i wanted to play a character who had to get in to do damage, basically i was trying to get away from Phonon's playstyle. Also her thighs call out to me.

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That was an accidental IW. I swear.

Nobody here will believe a Yuzu accidentally IW'd. we've seen to much evidence to the contrary.

Ah, where's Mikeline from? I got 8f right off the bat and a consistent 0 bars.

You can look at the inputs. I was still holding d while doing a motion and I must've let go by accident and when I went back to holding down on it recognized it as an IW input.

I'd love to believe you, but I've seen enough Yuzu play to know they always go for the IW, no matter what the situation.

He's a 1 bar and constant 7 frames for me

Maybe you're thinking of Lamp. He loves to spam that shit, I prefer to spam IWEXS.

Those are usually accidents for me

Europe. Sorry.

That was a fun match, Hippie. Hyde's getting more fun to play every day, even if I lose most of my games in these lobbies with him.

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don't feel too bad, we used to have a regular player who was australlian. we still managed to have a good time with him around.
I wonder what happened to him, I hope he didn't get bitten by a poisonous laptop at an australian Melty Blood tournament or something.

Whoa did you learn how to use those atic oses hippie? How did you tech all those throws?

Ah no wonder.
It's all fun and games until people learn to just hold down-back. Higher level Hyde play is torture sometimes

I never OS
I just knew you tend to go for an assault once you're out of range of your normals and decided to block for once since it's easy to predict what you're going to do.

Hm not technically true since I just don't like using my normals for the most part, range doesn't have must to do with it. Either way that was really impressive

If it isn't slashes, it's an assault so I just responded to what was coming

ggs PC lobby
I really need to get better so I can better contest some things.

Fuck, I didn't want hilda

GGs.

GGs guys. I'm going to play some more Secret of Mana before i go to bed.

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GGs

ggs

Alright, gonna close it in a bit.

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Man it's so hard to get a grab on atic. Hopefully they remove these os stuff in clr.

>remove OS stuff
HAhahahahahahahah

lol

If you can tech those throws in like 4-5 frames of lag. You know something is wrong and busted.

You can't remove something tied to fundamentals and buttons like that.

Just read which OS he's going to use and bait and punish it

How do you do that?

I've barely been OSing tonight. I'm just doing 1AD or plain AD on reaction to you running up just like hippie, so it's more that you need to try making your throws less obvious. If I were really doing it right I would be hitting you out of some of your assaults.

Geez Atic, I didn't think you'd do that assault 3 times in a row.

The way the tutorial explains the different throw OSes confuses me a bit, because it seems like they're all designed to counter a set of options that all begin with the opponent running right up to your face, then doing something, and especially with the ones that cover run up assaults it just seems like nobody actually does that, so the timing is always off for any of the ones involving assaults.

Man fighting in 9 frames just isn't fun. I'm gonna have to skip ya dude.
>1AD
I thought you couldn't tech throws in a crouch.

Huh. So that's what winning feels like.
Sorry for the lag.

Uh oh, I'm devolving back into 66C.

That makes sense since throws are only a threat when the opponent is right in your face though. It's mostly me and Waifu here that I see in these lobbies who does the assault/throw approaches. You see it a ton in offline matches so I think it's very important to know.

You can tech throws with 1AD but if you do it too early or they delay their throw or overhead you get shield broken and killed.

Seems too dangerous if you're risking all that.

I need to stop shielding.
Nothing but plain unnecessary risk in my play

What's the advantage of running into their face then assaulting vs. just dashing and doing it from a distance so they can't do eg. a 3ACD to cover it?

Far easier to shield when you assault from max range. Doing something like a run up delayed assault is great for baiting out reactions from the opponent as well, since if they see you doing nothing they'll be inclined to mash 2A or 1AD to throw reject

It weird to say but after finding out how bad orie's stuff is I'm not too scared of her. I'm willing to do a lot more after playing her.

It pretty much kills people who do 1AD or just stand tech too much. Especially offline, assaults in pressure are not a real mixup since they are extremely reactable and no one is going to get hit by those unless you bait people to mash or throw at that timing.

Doing it from a distance means they're not going to be afraid of throws, so you won't bait a shield or stand tech. Also, people can react to assaults at a distance as well.

>assaults in pressure are not a real mixup since they are extremely reactable
I hope this isn't true since I don't know what my game plan will be when I go to EVO.

It's a lot tougher to open people up offline

There's several of us here that can already react to your assaults though.

It's very true.

fuck
Not really, only Hippie and atic, but they're cheating or something. Probably that os stuff

Just do what you always do and never stop moving/slashing. Yuzu's stance is one big frametrap, that's really where you get your hits is making people impatient.

>these Concentration wars
we're more dragon ball in here than DBFZ

Never played this game, but I’ve seen the exs system and character diversity. Can anyone else explain what’s so good about the gameplay?

It feels good to play, unlike most fighting games.

I guess, but it's already pretty hard to hit people with slashes in the lobbies. I imagine the people I'll be playing won't get hit by this stuff.

There's scrubs in every tournament, don't worry too hard.

Also, gonna end when it's back to me

I thought you were closing up hippie? That was like 30 min ago.

I've got nothing for tomorrow so I decided to keep it up.

I hope so, if I can even go 1-2 at EVO I'll be pretty pleased with myself.

Oh and I might as well have broken play a few matches.

I didn't even notice another new name in here

>10 Frames
This is even worse than what I have with people on some nights in these lobbies. Might have to call it a hard pass with you friend.

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It's the other Yuzu player

I've haven't seen rhythm before

I should mention that Rhythm plays more like Lamp than me. They both fucking love 214x bit he's absurdly solid.

Just so you know. I knew that IWEXS would 100% hit

The entire games meta at higher levels offline revolves around scouting out OSs and punishing them.
For AA OSs, you basically just jab twice/frametrap the AA part of it

Yeah I forgot that you loved to do that. That was my mistake

AA? What does that mean besides the thing my uncle goes to.

A lot more people play Yuzu than I thought.

GGs everyone
Go to sleep

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Made another lobby for those who want to continue playing

GGs
Soon not yet

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ggs everyone. I've got to get rid of this autopilot that kicks in every few games but guess it won't be this week.

Good games everyone. Felt good to go back to Yuzu after having a downright miserable time with Orie. I'm still shocked I got a win off Dia since he's been playing so well and he's purple rank.
See you all next week.

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>dropped CH fireball that could've closed out hte match
I need to not do that
Gotta set the dummy to jump all over the place and practice picking it up from all over the screen

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Anti air

UNIST More like UNInSTall

GGs everyone

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ggs

ggs bro

GGs along with everyone else.

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Beginner here, how am I supposed to decide on which character to play?

Are there any that are usually recommended, that won't make me want to kill myself with retarded execution or convoluted setups when I'm just starting out?

>how am I supposed to decide on which character to play?
Follow your dick

>that won't make me want to kill myself with retarded execution or convoluted setups when I'm just starting out?
Akatsuki is a fairly easy and straightforward

Go into mission mode and play every character up to 4-1. 4-1 will generally be their basic BNB and if you're too frustrated to do it, then that character isn't for you. Alternatively, just pick the cutest girl or edgiest boi and stick with them.

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It's 11am here, should get some sleep.
Thanks for putting up with me and my lag. Have a good day.

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Who do you like to play in other fighting games?

pick someone based on their aesthetic, whether it's character design or how cool their attacks/combos look
that's what I do

this is my OC, Hyderone

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ggs everyone

god damn you yuzus test my patience. I thought I was having a good time playing dps and fireballs then I felt like I needed a web swing really really bad

ggs amigos, you guys have gotten solid

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