>The thing is, Breath of the wild kind of murdered every other open world game out there, they just feel kind of ancient now.
>I had a lot of fun with Red Dead and Spiderman but neither of those games benefitted from being open world, and that’s going to be the big obstacle for Cyberpunk
Is /ourguy/ right here?
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This is the mindset of actual cucks
Keep saying it.
underaged.
>Spider-Man
>not benefiting from being open world
Are you retarded? Of course he's wrong
KEEP SAYING IY
God no, BotW was a bog standard open world Ubisoft game with a Zelda paintjob. Complete even with climbing up a tower to scan the region, hundreds of pointless collectables masquarading as content in an empty world, etc
It's a solid 6 or 7/10 which isn't a bad thing.
Seriously how? I had more fun, much longer just wondering around in RD2 than in BOTW. How can people actually think shitty Bokoblin camps and shitty NPC encounters and findig swords that break in 3 swings more fun than roaming in RD?
The only open world game that I have ever played that I thought benefited from being open world was Morrowind. I've never finished any other open world game and thought they would all be better off being more concentrated. Witcher 3 was great in the first area, but I stopped playing it after 60 hours because I just got burnt out doing side quests and then over-levelled where I was up to in the main quest.
That's the problem I have with open world games, they never feel balanced.
that's a pure 100% onions opinion from the onions champ himself
No fucking way this game would have perfect scores
>Fat manchild unconditionally loves Nintendo
imagine me shark
Open world games are all kinda crap and boring now
Red dead 2 was good for that first playthrough but i couldnt ever imagine playing this game again or any of these open world games that are a dime a dozen nowadays
KEEP
>eceleb says something completely and utterly ironic
>literal sub-70 iq retard op takes it seriously
?????????
Do GTA and other similar games count? These are good because the world actually feels like a world and not a gigantic quest hub. Saints Row IV might have a dogshit story but it's a really fun superhero simulator and even if it's a collectathon the core gameplay is, dare I say it, fun.
He's not wrong in how BOTW took full advantage of being an open-world game to the point they even fixed the biggest problem with every open-world game (movement) and made others look like boring shit in comparison.
But that's apples to fucking oranges, BOTW is more in-line with Assassin's Creed, The Witcher 3, Red Dead 2 and it's not something Cyberpunk is going to go after.
Basically, nuDunkey's "I'm a serious videogame critic" shit is going to his head, keep saying it bitch nigga and go back to making goofy videos
>praises Sòy Wars: The Uncharted of Us
he's not our guy
K E E P
>fat nerd
>gets paid to make vidya related content
>still has a qt gf
Half of Yea Forums hates him and the other half wants to be him
>Brings up how much he loves eating Nintendo's shit out of nowhere when it isn't even relevant
Yeah this is definitely nu-Yea Forums's guy right here.
If anything he’s being optimistic about cyberpunk 77.
Let’s me real. It’s not gonna be anything special gameplay wise, those who buy will play it once and then probably not again for 5 more years
Yikes, only retards who didn't actually play BotW believe this dogshit. Quit fucking lying before I beat your face in and slash your throat.
Remember when he was on h3h3 and he was so much of an incompetent, unintelligent cuck that he was too afraid to share his opinions with anyone outside of his encouragement circle so he didn't say anything other than "Y-yeah."? That was so embarrassing, the guy is so cringy.
based, makes me wanna buy a switch/BotW
>2019
>open world this
>open world that
I thought this meme should have ended by now
breath of the wilds open world is shit
yeah, no. you're cringey. he was just being polite.
Open world is incredible when done right. Like in BotW.
I completely agree with the first half but have no opinion on the second because I didn't play either of those games.
Dunkey is so hyperbolic about everything. I like him but it's getting old. Keep saying it.
>BotW benefited from being open world
>RDR2 and Spider-Man didn't
This is the most retarded thing I've read all day on Yea Forums and holy shit is that saying something.
>BOTW re-defined open world games
How? What did it do that was unique?
how did spiderman not benefit from open world
does he really want another shattered dimensions
I think you mean
>Half of Yea Forums hates him
>All of Yea Forums wants to be him
I get that it's saturated but how the fuck would you make a GTA clone (not saying it in a derogatory way) level based? Especially a game that takes place in one city? It doesn't make any sense.
Dunkey is an unapologetic Nintendo fanboy though.
>botw benefited from being open world
Except it didn't. While it did exploration EXCEEDINGLY well, the things I typically expect and want in a Zelda game were deficient hurting the entire experience. Even Skyward Sword had some excellent dungeons, BotW just kinda had nothing. The shrines were too bite sized and too numerous to really feel engaging long term, and the divine beasts were too short and ALL had awful, completely unmemorable boss fights. BotW did open world well, but it was to the detriment of everything else in the game.
Keep saying it.
NINTENDOOOOO
JAAAAPPAAANN
I want to go one day to Japan and get an anime waifu!
And Ethan is the most personality-less, gutless kike worm, it's a true feat for him to appear more socially dominant than someone. I don't know guys, I am just not feeling Dunkey lately.
I have no idea who the person who said this is but I can only guess he's a raging Zelda/Nintendo fanboy to the point of delusion.
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Open levels>>>>>Open world.
Because everything is great when Nintendo does it.
Pretty true. Nintendo always gets a couple extra points added for their games just due to the brand, kind of the opposite for the rest of the Jap devs
based high test NintenCHAD who finally started juicing actual onions
It's far easier to make a big empty world with a few attractions and a couple procedural events than to craft a tight and enjoyable linear experience. Done right, you even get to reuse the same overworld like BotW2 intends to do with a few changes like most Yakuza games and Kamurocho
what the fuck
>It'll either go like this [XV] or like this [KH3]
I don't get what he's saying here, didn't he hate KH3?
Open world games are for cucks who want the ilusion of freedom in a videogame.
I prefer Red Dead GTA style where the open world is bordering on being a separate game from the story mode.
Nintendo fanboys
Keep saying it
hey Yea Forums, I have a question: hasn't EVERY Zelda game been open world? from the NES era, it's never had linear levels. yes, there is an order to the dungeons, but that's like claiming GTA isn't open world because you have to do the story missions in order.
keep saying it
My gaming preferences often overlap with donkey's but I disagree with him here. Well, I suppose I should say that I don't care much for open world meme games in the first place, but I really don't think BotW was revolutionary. It took the open world formula and put extra attention to detail, tied it up in a nice pristine bow. Basically the Apple treatment.
Dunk is just being hyperbolic, best not to take him too seriously as a critic and just enjoy him as a comedian.
God I love when Yea Forums seethes and gets BTFO
Literally the only game that actually lived up to it's open world is Xenoblade X
Open world absolutely fucking ruined zelda
>no enemy variety
>no quest variety
>no dungeon variety
>no sense of progression
>meaningless collectathon
BLACKED 2 BAYBAY
I dropped TP because the whole intro bit was on rails. It took 3 damn hours just to make it to the first dungeon. Too much running around the town doing bitch sidequests and nonsense. Compare to LoZ1 where you immediately have free reign to go anywhere and do anything. Even the sword is optional.
Well, you are sort of limited to big areas with loading screens in between them so I wouldn't really call previous Zelda's open world.
Environment interaction.
When I played RDR2, I saw a wooden bridge, I thought if I throw a molotov cocktail at it, it'll be burned down.
And the fire did spread through the bridge and turned black for a while, but it does nothing.
Like why put in half-assed fire interaction? for it to only change the texture of things being burned.
it's not them genius
>I had a lot of fun with Red Dead and Spiderman but neither of those games benefitted from being open world, and that’s going to be the big obstacle for Cyberpunk
Dunkey, you're a funny dude. But good god your opinion on video games is just bad.
I played all 3 of those games and RDR2 had by and far the best open world experience to date.
There were much more random encounters, randomly scripted events, randomly placed landmarks to explore. Cities were much, much more alive. There's many more things to do literally everywhere.
Keep saying it
So you can burn bridges down in BOTW?
This basically sums up my feelings on it
Really upsetting because Twilight Princess is my favorite game of all time
I hate breath of the Wild so fucking much.
It spoiled me on shit that I can never go back without being annoyed.
The first game I played after BoTW was Nier Automata and the invisible walls alone made me so frustrated I couldn't enjoy the game.
Fuck breath of the Wild. It ruined video games for me.
>still no LoZ better than the oracle games
honestly nintendo should just sell the ip to capcom
well you got bad tastes because TP had garbage combat and a soulless linear world with no depth of mechanics / exploration
I'd agree with you on enemy variety and dungeon aesthetic variety and absolutely nothing else
where's the proof to deconfirm it then?
keep sayin it
*pants*...keep saying it.
>no enemy variety
traditional zelda enemies are all the same shit with a different look, basic as fuck attack patters where they either run right into you or wall you out
>no quest variety
opposed to no quests in every game that isn't MM or LA
>no dungeon variety
some of the most intelligently designed, open ended dungeons
>no sense of progression
I bet you that most people have 100+ hours on their file
>meaningless collectathon
after the 80 hour mark, which is much more than you'd get out of a traditional zelda
Same. I get so irrationally angry when a little tiny rock lower than my shin prevents me from getting to a new area in Soulsborne games. My character can kill gods but his fingers can't find purchase on a six foot wall?
And dont get me started on looking down from high places and wishing I could glide down.
XCX overworld is still the best.
It's actually fun. Lol get fukt haters.
Western games are so annoying and cringey. Half the time they just slap "pretty" images trying to be realistic on games but they don't actually do anything meaningful in the game. All show and flash without any actual gameplay.
Most every space in botw felt unique like it had someone specifically craft it to serve a purpose. It's fully explorable and i's fucking chalk full of shit to find, collect and interact with. It's not a perfect game but I played it more 200 hours and really enjoyed it.
He's a Nintendo fanboy..just that.
he's right, but you're still a faggot for posting an e-celeb thread
>muh ludonarrative dissonance
Absolutely embarrassing.
I think the thing that will make Cyberpunk 2077 good in regards to open world and why they will do open world right is because this is one of the few games that intends to focus on vertical exploration, meaning less space where you aren't traveling 2000 miles to reach a certain quest and almost every building being able to be entered into like an actual city where you can explore floors upon floors and bust into apartment complexes. Also the gang system alone and the fact that you get to see enemies hole up in certain territories of the city. They needed to make the game open world to represent that and witness the difference a city makes as you weed out particular gangs and help others rise.
0 days since Yea Forums was mad about botw
>traditional zelda enemies are all the same shit with a different look, basic as fuck attack patters where they either run right into you or wall you out
except almost all enemies have some form of mechanical uniqueness
leevers go underground
likelikes swallow you
tektites hop
freezards slide around and breathe ice
wallmasters drop down and snag you
peahats fly high and pivot and launch minions
skulltula drop down and swing around
walltula shuttle along walls
redeads freeze you
deku baba are immobile
bari become temporarily shocking
poes become invisible
and you know what they all have in common?
none were in BotW
all were in OOT
and that's not even half the OOT enemies
and OOT had more than TWICE the enemy variety of BotW
fuck off zoomer, BOTW is trash
Keep saying it.
>Nintendo always gets a couple extra points added for their games just due to the brand
It's not just a couple, it's nearly always between 5-10 bonus points.
Burden of proof, dumbass. Prove it's fucking real.
Leah's body type and hair style is nothing like the girl's in that video.
I was more triggered about him calling FF7's plot convoluted. It's pretty fucking straight forward, even with all the unreliable narrator shit.
don't forget
>just completely dismisses Xbox's E3 entirely and makes a satirical joke about it to defend Sony's absence
epic
leah has a surprisingly nice body though
not to mention the original video was posted to a random forum years ago, it was linked on Yea Forums when that edit with dunkeys voice was popular to get people to shut up. anyone that honestly believes it at this point is either willfully ignorant or shitposting
Based Apache Blood Nintenchad
This is some conspiracy theory-tier bullshit.
>where is the notarized government-issued ID and birth certificate of all participants, filmed directly before the scene in question? without that all these people are exactly who I say they are: that's leah, the director is dunkey, and the black man is kenyan-born barack obama
okay now explain who is Zack
what does Shinra have to do with Weapon attacking Cloud
why did Sephiroth kill president Shinra
who is a clone of who and how many
>FF7s story
>Too complicated
Nigger what the fuck
>liking BOTW
Were my points not valid you asstard?
Mint as fuck
based and cringepilled
Zack is the SOLDIER who Cloud thinks he is.
Shinra went to snack on some sweet sweet promised land but Cloud woke the WEAPONS who wanted to murder him for having Jenova cells
Sephiroth murdered him on his way out
Literally no one is a clone barring the retarded movie
this direct revealed the hypocrisy of every BOTW apologist
you can hear a clear difference between the genuine excitement of banjo's reveal compared to the forced excitement for BOTW 2
just listen to any streamer
dunkey's trying to exaggerate on this, but the truth is that's what most people, including himself, actually feel like but don't want to admit it
Samefag
No, I disagree. Breath of the Wilds super sandboxy approach to an open world is one way to do it but note the only one and games like Red Dead or Cyberpunk wouldn't benefit from it. Those are story driven games and the open world serves to contextualize their story and give it a sense of place and scale. Making it interactive just for interactivities sake like it's in Zelda woulddistract from the story rather than enhance it.
>didn't evwn watch the video
>2011+8
>kiwifarms
probably has one of the highest proportion of actual women users anywhere on the internet. so of course it's a site dedicated to catty gossip and seething at nothing
Dunkey is going through some kind of hard time and it's having an effect on how he does videos now, they're different now, here's more defensive than he was before and more prown to attacking things he doesn't like, not just in a joking manner but a semi-serious one now, I bet you anything it's stemming from a strained relationship with his girlfriend, either it's not going well or he's trying to hard to appeal to her wants and he's taking out his stress on everything else.
Keep saying it.
and he liked XV
Dunkeys golden age is behind him. His new videos are rehashes of the same jokes applied to the same games. I still laugh at the first videos of him I've seen. But his dark souls switch episode was the exact same jokes.
Hes afraid of being labeled a bigot or some shit, and is neutering his own material. Fuckin sad.
this is incredibly high level content, wasted on this shit-ass thread lmfao a+ user
Or maybe he's just having an easier time being sincere. He seems more confident in himself nowadays
Dunkey is objectively wrong about half the shit he reviews. He’s comedy and thus his videos should be taken with a grain of salt immediately upon clicking play. He’s a funny dude just not good at reviewing stuff half the time.
Red Dead’s review for example fell for the “What were you expecting” problem. Where you played a rootin tootin game and got shorting and you got mad for too much shooting
Dunkey is biased as pro Nintendo and anti Rockstar. So anything that isn’t slapped with that Nintendo seal is automatic shit or “average”
You think I'd take this fat fucks opinion into account when he doesn't even like jrpgs? The best genre on the market?
almost 3 years later, snoys still have their assholes prolapsed
There's no turning back now so I'll have to suck it up. But all I really wanted was what they already had on grander scale, and seamless transition between areas just like in Star Fox Adventures. I never gave a shit about the freedom of doing things out of order meme, it just ruins the balance.
dont tell anyone but i stole it from Yea Forums, where it was wasted on an equally shit thread
>biased as pro nintendo
remember when he said he didn't like splatoon 2 and snoyfags were screaming how based he was?
The difference here is that Yakuza is story and narrative based and BotW has no story
i love botw, will be buying the sequel on launch due to how good the gameplay and world design of the first was, and i wasn't excited for the reveal because there was no gameplay shown. kind of obvious that they had a successor in the works dude, nobody will care about cinematics or pre-rendered footage if there's no video of it being played
branding everyone that likes a game as an apologist and implying they don't actually like it is stupid
Mostly just the fact that there's a lot of things in the environment that are interactable. In most open world games the world is pretty static, or they all follow the same formula. I'll admit the towers are pretty Ubisofty, but everything else feels different.
cringebased and basedcringebilled
He just got tired of acting like a kid, you can only keep that up for so long the older you get, it's nothing impressive it's just age.
>zelda open world
Oh boy!
>YOU CAN BUY A HOUSE
literally why though? Generally your inventory will be large enough you never need anything for the house
>YOU CAN COOK!
Requires minimal effort to get shit that refills you well so any fight can just be constantly eating a buffet of food to heal
>YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO GANON
Okay? is this suppose to be cool? many games allow you to go to the 'final boss' you just get your ass kicked usually
>So many weapons
yeah and most useless
>DUNGEONS
Boring and broke
>that environment
I'd take oblivion, GTA 4, or Mercenaries and have more fun.
>exciting enemies
yeah no
>you can do things in any order
It's not even worth mentioning how this is a non positive
Keep saying it.
Didn't play Red Dead, but Spiderman sure didn't gain anything from being open world.
If you are not standing on an Icon in pic related, there is literally nothing for you to do but make cheesy gestures at NPCs.
>>YOU CAN BUY A HOUSE
>literally why though?
video game magic is lost on you. sorry to hear about your depression user
>I HATE ANIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
we know dunkey shut the fuck up
Lol the seething continues.
What?
Sure he didn’t like splatoon 2 but he can’t not review a Nintendo game without going on a 2 minute thesaurus reading praise for what Nintendo games do and don’t do
>NEVER BEFORE HAVE I EXPERIENCE SUCH JOY AND WHIMSY WHILIST FEELING NOSTALGIA FOR MY BLISSFUL CHILDHOOD THAN WHEN I WAS PLAYING SUPER MARIO PARTY FOR THE NINTENDO FUCKING SWITCH
>THE PURE UNADULTERATED GRAPHICAL FIDELITY OF THE DICE BLOCKS ARE LIKE TEARS IN THE GOD DAMN RAIN. I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CRY WHEN I THIBK ABOUT THE FLAWLESS SYMPHONY OF MARIO MUSIC REMIXES BLENDING INTO THE SOUNDTRACK CREATING A HARMONIOUS FLARE UP INSIDE MY ENLARGED PREFRONTAL CORTEX
The house in BoTW does virtually nothing of immense value overall in terms of gameplay. It's just there to make you grind a bit more for rupee's.
lmfao
I have cum to her more than a few times. dunk wasn't joking when he said he became the mayor of muffin town
>Those are story driven games and the open world serves to contextualize their story and give it a sense of place and scale.
The open world actively detracted from RDR2's sense of scale. All the running from the law and finding new camps to hide out at is made laughable when you're literally a minute and a half away from your previous camp. You'd get a better sense of scale from linear design with a fucking cutscene.
the only game i can think of where he went off like that was sm64 but it's been a while since i watched his others. and that game deserves the praise, still untouchable after what, 20 years?
>okay now explain who is Zack
Dude who Cloud thinks he is
>what does Shinra have to do with Weapon attacking Cloud
The weapons are planets defence system and Jenova is an alien threat who's cells are implanted in every SOLDIER.
>why did Sephiroth kill president Shinra
Because he's just awoken and still pissed at Shinra and shit
>who is a clone of who and how many
Jenova/Sephiroth made clones of themselves to do their bidding and assist in their goal of destroying the planet
Yeah but you gay tho
He actually values gameplay over graphics...
Why do you even play video games??
He didn't say anything about anime though.
Don't know about RDR2, but Spidey actually benefits from the open world, as the web swinging is a core aspect of the game.
Keep saying it.
I honestly think Dunkey just doesn't have a long attention span and can't appreciate a long slow paced videogame plot considering his favourite game is bingbingwahoo 64.
I can't imagine what his take would be on something like Planescape or Pathologic would be.
A bunch of those are MAIN POINTS in the fucking game. They’re not deep metaphors either , they are literally said to you as dialogue in game
anyone that thinks botw is good is easily impressed.
sethfags btfo
Hes right, mosy open worlds break down into objectives spaced between empty environment with unintereating features. Then they fill the world with boring sidequests to pad for time, not to mention how much time you waste travelling by the end of one of these games. A game really has to justify its open world nowadays
amazing
The only way I will buy BOTW2 is if it includes traditional dungeons again, the return of some sort of permanent weapon, if possible drop the entire weapon durability shit. The return of different items to use, not just shiekiah tablet shit, and finally gives me a decent accessible story without making me jump through loops to enjoy it.
>>The thing is, Breath of the wild kind of murdered every other open world game out there, they just feel kind of ancient now.
It was good but hardly the genre-defining game he makes it out to be. The total lack of replayability, repetitive world design, barebones story, and sloppy handling of collectibles put it behind other notable open world games.
Cyberpunk looks like it wont be similar to BOTW at all.
>most linear spider-man games are shit
>Spidey PS4 was fantastic because of its traversal
He is wrong as fuck there.
Filling the games with the same content type is boring thought too. Trials in BOTW are not fun pst the first five and feel like a god damn chore
weapon durability was a good feature it kept you from being overleveled but rewarded you for going into late game areas. I think a weapon repair system would fix this issue
He probably meant it should have only missions and no free roaming or something. Even that would be retarded.
RDR2 puts alot of emphasis on immersion and living life as a cowboy, hunting, fishing, looking for treasure, robbing people etc, so to say it doesn't benefit from an open world is a lie.
The game does have the problem though of putting too much emphasis on linear missions, meaning like every R* game there's almost two separate game modes competing for the player's attention, whereas BotW is almost completely about exploration and interacting with the world with an end goal that can be freely accessed almost at any time.
I get what he's saying, but he just comes off as a Nintendo fanboy. Nakey Jakey's video on RDR2 is much better breakdown of open world design and how Rockstar fails to innovate since GTA3.
but the whole point is that they play video games. so its related.
It's even worse that he genuinely believes that shit. Like he wasn't even joking, what a fucking retarded thing to say.
Keep saying it.
Knowing CDPR, it'll probably be like TW3. That is, it'll have a similar open world to RDR2 that's mostly a series of linear missions in a world that's very detailed and varied, but lacks player interaction.
autism speaks?
Breath of the wild was so fucking fun and I had no issue putting in 100 hours. RDR2 was good but it gets pretty boring.
>complains about the amount of fps games in gaming
>literally praises any 2D indie game that all look and play the same
fuck u dookie
>ywn be this based
But BotW's open world was meh, it had what every other open world game had and it wasn't the first to do any of what it did
The level of complexity between a bokoblin and tektites is enormous though. BOTW enemies have a huge range or responses to possible stimuli. Not to mention horse riding and hunting behaviors. Comparing that to an N64 "jump at link if he enters x distance from me" is unreasonable.
Fortunately Im sure they'll add more variety in the sequel because more variety was needed.
fuck yoooouuuu
the environment interactivity was cool but everything else (especially the world and exploration) was mediocre, I'll never understand the critical acclaim for BotW
>this
If you're into pixelshit that's fine, but Devolver are worse than Ubisoft when it comes out to putting out samey games every year.
THANK YOU
Had way more fun hunting in rdr 2's world than anything in BOTW
You sound like Trevor if he browsed Yea Forums.
Not to be that guy, but I think shattered dimensions was one of the best Spiderman games ever, and it had 0 free roaming.
>Final Fantasy games have stories as crazy as Kingdom Hearts
Lol, no
>(especially the world and exploration) was mediocre, I'll never understand the critical acclaim for BotW
conversely, i'll never understand this criticism because i found it difficult to go back to other open world games like the witcher 3, or semi-open world stuff like nier automata, because of how limiting they feel in their design, exploration, and world traversal
Well they're usually better so maybe that's good thint
>Remember when he was on h3h3
Nobody here watches that trash, retard
Have sex
>people on Yea Forums, especially sony fans, think spider man remake is an open world game
What next, spyro is open world?
I know you are gonna hate this but this vocaroo was Based
KEEP SAYING IT
women aren't sex objects
>spider man remake
Eh? The PS4 game is not a remake.
The post Yea Forums needs but not the one it deserves.
>spider man remake
No such thing, it's stupidly just called Marvel's Spider-Man
>Spider-Man isn't an open world game
Than you're a faggot with a peanut brain
KEEP SAYING IT
If every little battle arena on God of War let you web sling from rooftop to rooftop instead of walking down a hallway, with the exact same gameplay beats, would it be open world?
Big hub level is not open world.
>Big hub level is not open world.
That is the very definition of an open world.
He's just a laid back guy. He has his own podcast if you care to hear him be more candid.
Open world is a gameplay style where objectives can be achieved in any order. "Open world" is a lie designed to advertise 150% overscaled maps as a selling point.
keep saying it
keep saying it
What is this keep saying it meme
>Big hub level is not open world.
Spider-Man has the retarded ubisoft towers to reveal the map like BotW, it has retarded collectables like every other open world game, it has side missions and side quests that pop up like open world games, when you're free roaming there is nothing there is nothing stopping you but the end of the map lile every other open world game
IT LITERALLY HAS A WORLD THAT IS OPEN
You can even take wikipedia's word for it you nigger
wikipedia.org
That's a sanbox game. Open world just means that it has a big map.
Interracial cuckold fetishists who escaped /trash/
someone edited a dunkey voiceover into a cuck video and retards were dumb enough to fall for it
en.m.wikipedia.org
You are so off the mark that wikipedia is more correct than you are. Please retire from posting for the evening.
>edited
>The thing is, Breath of the wild kind of murdered every other open world game out there, they just feel kind of ancient now.
*blocks your path*
Keep saying it
It's not everyday you see a man genuinely go nuclear.
keep saying it
I guarantee he didn't play the game, because there are multiple sequences where Tifa explains what the fuck is going on really slowly and the characters reiterate the plot multiple times.
oh shit nigga what now nigga what now
Heh, Nothing personal
But user, you had to zoom in on things on the environment to mark them like in Mad Max, no game has done that before!
Heh, nothing personnel kid.
KEEP
>oh yeah and they're making another zelda or whatever
CYBERPUNK FUCKING FINISHED
Have you even bothered looking up gameplay for Spider-Man? It falls under that Wikipedia page's description of an open world game.
Dunkey always spews the worst possible opinions imaginable.
Imagine believing Megaman 11 is "too hard" holy shit.
cringe
It wasn't an open world with a lot of depth but it was a great as a sandbox game. The immersive sim elements where the systems interacted with each other were pretty cool, the exploration was also a key factor to the game's success. Its definitely a style over substance game
>wanting to be a cuck
No thanks.
i wasn't excited either because it was just a two sentences on a screen telling me there was going to be a sequel, but i'm pretty sure dunkey only talked like that because he was more excited about banjo, not that he ever hated the game.
goddamn what is with BOTW and making Yea Forums cry
In what ways does it challenge the systems limitations and try to allow for as much openness and interactivity as possible? Oh, whats that, its just a scaled up version of a game that was trend-setting 15 years ago?
I lose my shit when he says onions.
If he explained why all those shit shrines that exist to make the world feel less empty, and are not well designed, and are more of "oh its that puzzle again" or why all the combat shrines suck ass then sure. BOTW let you rush the main objective, fucking wow. Morrowind lets you do something similar but also has a ton of actual shit in it. BOTW also doesn't reward you with shit because of weapon durability. That cool shit over there? Its either a shrine, or a weapon that breaks in 10 hits.
I also don't see what benefit BOTW had over previous Zelda games from being more open. You get the idea its super open, but to get inside of the beasts its right back to a dogshit linear handholding section.
Unironically basedpilled, thanks doomer-chan very neat
I don't care if he does or not but I do.
It was a good Spidey game.
BOTW is a jack of all trades, having its hand in every cookie jar when it comes to features, but I don't think it does alot of those features well.
I own BoTW and can easily say that it's not that great of an open world game, about a 6-7/10. There isn't really anything to do after the initial screwing around the map process, just collect shit and do every temple. The magnet and time stop powers would make things much more fun if they lasted longer or there was more objects to use them on. [Prototype] was kind of the same, open with little to do, however you were given many powers that made you stupid strong so it gave more options. Just Cause gives you a lot of toys to play with and can be used in a lot of ways, making it an easy game to jump back in.
Also I fear BoTW 2 will be put on the same map or we'll get a slightly different one with the same amount of nothing to do. Not looking forward to the below 30fps either.
absolutely based
Dunkey at his most shilling. This is why I haven't been watching his vids for a few years.
So sad watching the exact timeline of a youtube channel. From starting with something new and great, eventually selling the fuck out and shilling their hardest. Including posting their own bullshit on Yea Forums of all places.
>they even fixed the biggest problem with every open-world game (movement) and made others look like boring shit in comparison.
what a retarded opinion. driving in GTA is more fun than climbing in BotW over, and over, and over, and over
I DID PLAY, it's exactly like that
onions snoy cringe
extremely boomerpilled and zoomercringe
That page lists the Assassin's Creed franchise as an example of an open world game. Do you honestly believe the garbage you're spewing?
Tell that to your friend wikipedia
Keep sayin' it
HOLY DIMES
No. Cyberpunk is aiming to be very different kind of game from Zelda. Also
>>I had a lot of fun with Red Dead and Spiderman but neither of those games benefitted from being open world
>spiderman did not benefit from being open world
Rubbish.
Cringed desu
Go back to Yea Forums
Are you too underage to remember a fucking 07 title?
The ability to climb everywhere plus its physics system resulting in shit like this But that's pretty much it, really. The overwhelming amount of negative issues associated with its overworld tends make people forget about the few thing it did manage to accomplish, though.
what did they mean by this
So was it really him? kek
This. He's fucking stupid and he should stop giving his actual thoughts about games because he embarrasses himself every time. How can anyone not only say, but write that a Spiderman game doesn't benefit from being open world?
Cringe onions reddit based, honestly Gb2reddit
And people would be happy to acknowledge those things it did right, if the fans weren't so hateful towards any criticism.
Tell me right now. Why am I a "snoy nigger" if I simply say that I didn't consider BOTW that great? Keep in mind that I hate every game on the Ps4 and am not menitoning sony in the slightest positive light. I'd lconsider myself more of a PC gamer.HOWEVER, according to Yea Forums I'm a snoy sucking faggot because I dared criticize BOTW.
Now, can any Nintendo fan explain this logic, how I'm somehow supporting sony despite hating them the most in this industry?
There's a lot of dumb things here, but I'm going to focus on the last one because it's the worst offender in my opinion.
>>you can do things in any order
>It's not even worth mentioning how this is a non positive
The idea of an open world game is that it lets you explore and move around, because an open world game that does not let you explore of move around an environment of suitable size cannot be considered an open world game as it would be a series of linear sections. In that sense, being able to pursue a multitude of stories in any order greatly helps an open world game design, since i a player is forced to go on missions in a linear fashion to complete the story (such as red dead redemption 2) then the idea of exploration is hampered, since in order to actually complete the game you are force to run from location to location in a specific order, a design that is much better suited to a linear or mission based game. By letting the player explore and partake in any quest they happen upon at any time (whether they are part of the main story or not), it enhances the open world by encouraging exploration and not hindering the player if they haven't completed story point B 20 miles away.
Lispy basement-dwelling soiboy. Probably look that razorfist faggot.
FUCK OFF
THIS FAGGOT IS DOUG HARRIS
HE IS A NOTORIOUS SHITPOSTER
HE HAS BEEN SHITTING UP BOTW THREADS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW
NOBODY RESPOND TO THIS IMBECILE, HE'S OBNOXIOUS IN HIS INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY
NOBODY ELSE REPLY TO HIM.
>dunkey
>/ourguy/
No matter how much you spam he’ll never be it. Give up.
The problem is that the quests themselves are extremely linear and restrictive. Like, they ruin the entire game by not allowing any wiggle room or creativity.
Lot of butthurt sonyfags in this thread
Maybe you guys should go cool down with a nice game of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
This is a lie. Why lie?
Calm down with the all caps friend. Nobody is here to hurt you. We're simply discussing Zelda. *pats*
>an environment of suitable size
Nope. Arbitrary size limitations are literally just skaing around a hardware dick. Atari 2600 has games with a more open world than spiderman even though they are maybe 5-6 screens and less than 300 player-characters wide
>Red Dead didn't benefit from being open world
>Spiderman didn't benefit from being open world
Definitely need to expand on that because it sounds fucking retarded.
>skaing
*shaking
Hes not talking about Red Dead 2
Do you want some examples? Okay, here's a few.
>the divine beasts force you into one path, and nothing else. You're not allowed to use any of your skills to progress in them unless you're doing it an extremely specific way.Vah Naboris, for example, is completely impassible unless you let the gerudo bitch use the thunder helm. Mind you, nothing in-game says you have to give it to her, nothing says you can't use it yourself, and you don't even have to get it from them, since you can bypass the gerudo entirely to find the yiga clan hideout
So tell me this, why couldn't I steal the thunder helm, tell the gerudo to fuck off, and approach Vah Naboris myself? Because it would "hamper the cinematic story". That's why.
Red-dead and spider man are both mission-based games where the "open world" is just a shitty empty thing to do (cant forget the procedurally genetated encounters pulled from a table, of course) between missions
Both games suffer from this.
Wow, we're allowed to talk about this kek on Yea Forumssetera again? Amazing
Why lie even more? And with these retarded nitpicks you've raised a thousand times and would have no longer validity for an intellectually honest person to boot?
Keep saying it.
Wrong.
>Why lie even more?
Then tell me how to approach Vah Naboris AND murder all of the gerudo for being man-hating whores. Please, if the game offers me absolute freedom, then tell me how I can accomplish this.
>And with these retarded nitpicks you've raised a thousand times
BZZZZ, wrong. Nitpicks raised a thousand times would be stuff like weapon durability. This is something only I have complained about, because I'm the only one who actually cares that Nintendo lied to me when they promised freedom.
>Shitty empty thing
>Stranger encounters
>Hunting
>Fishing
>Bounty Hunting
>Gambling
>House Robberies
>Gang Hideouts
The game would be dull as fuck as a level based game. And not being able to swing around New York as Spider-Man is some straight bullshit.
keep saying it
viraling eceleb cancer isn't video games, kys
>unironically watching dunkey in [current_year]
Next you'll say you still watch critkal.
Stop lying already.
Stop replying to ACfag you dumb cunts
Keep saying it.
Each of these things is done once and then repeated.
Keep saying it
I'm waiting then. If I did lie, then elaborate.
See, can't even formulate an argument, so he goes right back to ad hominem.
>hurrr you're a fag if you make even the smallest criticism
Come on bro. If your game is perfect and beyond reproach, then you can easily bring a defense to the table.
>cyberpunk
>instantly starts sperging out BotW and open world
How would cyberpunk not benefit from open world?
You should be able to drive around the city like GTA, and walk down packed dense streets like in other cyberpunk settings
>Then tell me how to approach Vah Naboris AND murder all of the gerudo for being man-hating whores
In spider man? Because the game applies artificial limitations to force you to hunt doctor octopus or some shit. Same as Red Dead except in that one you have to be a cowboy.
You could say the same about literally any game
>Red-dead and spider man are both mission-based games where the "open world" is just a shitty empty thing to do
And BotW is different how?
>y-you can do things in diffrent orders
Is that it?
Not sure if you thought I was defending Nintendo in my post or something like that, because I wasn't.
Either way I agree with you. The blind, rabid attitude of Nintendo's fanbase has pretty much put them in a sort of bubble where they don't seem to possess enough self-awareness or rationality to realize that criticism can and does lead to a game company improving the overall quality and standards of its game and products.
A fanbase that blindly eats and accepts whatever shit their favorite company throws at them just results in said company becoming more and more accustomed to a cheap, lazy and predatory mindset, which is exactly what happened with Nintendo over the course of the last 10 or so years.
I'm pretty certain most of the 10/10 reviews are a mixed result of
>Nintendo threatening to blacklist said reviewers if they didn't give BoTW anything above a 8.9 review score
and
>The fear of potential Nintendo fans doxing them, devaluing their reputation or flooding their reply boxes with death treats and the like.
Remember what happened to the GameSpot review who was ballsy enough to give TP the rating it deserved? (8.8)
Nintendo fans doxed the site to the point of crashing and said reviewer was fired shortly after. That's how fucking scary and mentally unhinged Nintendo's fanbase can be at times.
Yes, open world is limited by technical and devlopment limitations. The issue is that games like spider man and red dead are sequels happy to walk in the trail of their predecessors, not actually trying to push any of these limits.
>cry about "ad hominem" immediately before posting a retarded greentext strawman
Contrats on outing yourself dumbass.
Fuck off outta here mentally ill faggot.
Keep saying it
It's a good thing I'm not defending either of those games. I think they're garbage because they're guilty of the same sins of forced linearity and stifling creativity.
>no arguments
>continues spewing ad hominem
Cringe
Based
>Nintendo threatening reviewers
When has this ever happened? Stop replying to yourself you mentally ill faggot.
I wasn't responding to one. Also stop using fallacy terms you don't know the meaning of.
What is it about monolith soft games that makes Yea Forums seethe so badly?
Yeah fuck off already. You are not intellectually honest, stop pretending to want a discussion. You don't.
To be fair h3h3 is a weird neurotic goblin who always looks like he is on crack, I'd be afraid to say anything to him, just in case he snaps and starts stabbing
Don't worry user, I was addressing the fandom in general. It's just very unsettling when you can't even get in a word edgewise about the game without people being angry. Look at me, I spent 50 hours in BOTW, and I'm not saying it's shit. Far from it. I think it's an okay game. But because I'm not giving it glowing 10/10 praise, I'm a "snoy shitposter" in the eyes of these people.
can someone spoonfeed me on this one
>Because the game applies artificial limitations to force you to hunt doctor octopus or some shit.
It doesn't though
And why did you switch the subject? No one's praising Spider-Man's or Red Dead's open world like BotW's
Level based would be just as restrictive. You can't say a game didn't benefit from open world when the freedom from open world is a key feature.
People are retarded and jealous of dunkey honestly
Yeah no you shit up BotW threads for two years before you played a second of the game.
Fuck off faggot. Stop shitting up this board with your insufferable autism.
I DO want a discussion. I'm not the one calling people faggots and niggers over a mere criticism of a game. Meanwhile, let's look at your track record.
>someone says BOTW isn't that good
>LOL FUCK OFF TRANNY DILATE XD
>someone else says BOTW is good, but has some issues
>HAHA SNOY SO MAD XD
>someone thinks it's a little overrated, but still had fun with it
>DUDE FUCK OFF BACK TO RESETERA FAG
If anything, it would appear as though you, in fact, are the intellectually dishonest one. You can't go a single post without insulting someone with a poorly added in ad hominem.
They’re shit games what’s there to expand on?
Yeah nah fuck outta here. You ruined these threads for two years before you even touched the game.
No you don't.
>"I think BOTW is an okay game, but a bit overrated"
>this is considered shitting up a thread
terrible taste expected from a furry
>why did you switch the subject?
Why do you only complain that one in three games won't let you massacre the gerudo and wear the mask? Do the other ones not need to include this gameplay element?
This is the faggot that ruined BotW threads forever.
I specifically said suitable size just to clarify that something like say, quake or turok isn't an open world game despite them having multiple "worlds" in which you can move around all you like. Maybe "a single centralized world in which you can freely move around" would have been more appropriate, but I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say.
The quests themselves are linear in that fashion yes, but I was focusing on the quests themselves, such as under what conditions they are unlocked or you are able to start them. A great part of open world games is the changing world, where the player can meet someone and have them show up later in a different context. The problem comes when those two contexts are only very tangentially related: I doubt you would find people complaining about the Vah Medoh or Vah Noboris storyline quests since they don't restrict your movement around the map in any meaningful way, and serve to show the player new information (I doubt any new player would be able to defeat Vah Naboris without the gerudo's telling them how without a guide), while on the other hand unlocks like GTA: San Andreas's San Fierro are awful, since they limit the player with basically invisible walls for an arbitrary quest barrier. Having quests isn't a bad thing, but having quests that lock out content unless done in a very specific way over a long period is for an open world game.
He stopped being funny as soon as he started mentioning he had a gf. No wonder women aren't funny, being in the vicinity of a vagina seems to suck all comedic energy out of people.
Keep saying it
See, you continue to prove my point. You just can't let the past go, and you continue putting yourself on a high pedestal. Here I am, genuinely wanting some discussion, but you just can't handle someone having a different opinion from you.
I'm the guy you were originally responding to. I hate all of them for not letting you do that. This isn't against BOTW alone. I'm criticizing them as a group.
This is the pathology of the Zelda fan. Never forget the 8.8 (which is actually an appropriate score for Botw).
>when the freedom from open world is a key feature.
The only "benefit" of an open world in spider man is that the web slinging is fun. None of the content in the game actually depends on the various rooftops and buildings actually being connected by a traversable world.
THANK YOU
>still crying about ad hominem while spewing I AM SILLY greentext strawmen
>acfag calling anyone else intellectually dishonest
Adorable.
Are they the same person who posts Zelda porn and that "days since v cried about BOTW" image?
2 clips of a culturally enriched gentleman copulating with a woman of fairer tone, while you hear a man that sounds exactly like Dunkey say "keep saying it" behind the camera.
Lol, I'm not that user
Just pointing out how you instead of admitting that the game has flaws like every other, you resorted to pointing out the flaws of other games while ignoring Zelda's
The first time I saw dunkey, I thought he was alright. Then I noticed he literally just says the same stupid shit over and over again, and does the same retarded stuff.
His humor and videos are literally just him all the time pretending to be an idiot and retarded, and trying to be all "haha I'm ironically being stupid!". Literally he's the embodiment of the "I was merely pretending to be retarded" meme.
Yeah, I'd say he certainly summarizes the state present Yea Forums. Fuck this board
i just watched the videos lol i should come here more often
B A S E D
>So what if I fucked up BotW threads for two years? I want a legitimate discussion now, I swear!
I hope nobody falls for this.
>See, you continue to prove my point.
I didn't. You failed to prove yours. And you genuinely don't want discussion.
appreciated brother
The challenges based on webswinging are. Also one benefit is still better than no benefit. When I look at a Spider-Man game the main thing I'm looking for is that the webslinging is fun.
KEEP SAYING IT
>you're not allowed to complain about these quests holding your hand and forcing you into one path because it's important for the story, and the story is more important than gameplay
Did I just step into resetera?
Cope
...
This retarded shit is why I can't take BotW fans seriously. Go to any wooden bokoblin camp in BotW and you cant interact for shit, you throw fire at it and the wood doesnt burn or anything. The much touted interaction in BotW is honestly not that great or sandboxy. You guys always act like BotW lets you do ANYTHING but the game actually feels pretty limited and empty, its like all the experimentation is just with how you kill a bokoblin.
Then kindly explain why you won't have a discussion with me, instead opting to call me names?
You keep making that implication, but you haven't exactly explained how I "fucked up BOTW threads". Like what did I do? Post criticism? Is that enough to ruin a thread?
I'm the one who's being civil, while you keep calling me names like "faggot" and "tranny" and "nigger". So you're not making a good impresson.
Keep saiyan it.
Someone already answered him. Was your dad a skeleton, because you sure are a bonehead!
Imagine, for a second, how much of a fucking retard you have to be to believe that FF7 has a convoluted story on par with the Kingdom Hearts saga.
But you can cut down trees to make a bridge! Game engine of the century!
dunkey fucking loves nintendo, i don't know how his dumbshit opinion on open world games could have surprised anybody.
I-It's fake right?
>I'm the one who's being civil, while you keep calling me names like "faggot" and "tranny" and "nigger".
Point out where I did that. Posting all caps strawmen and putting words into people's mouths isn't being civil.
>Yeah no you shit up BotW threads for two years
The irony
>This isn't against BOTW alone. I'm criticizing them as a group.
That's fair. But concerning the original topic, I think it is reasonable to say that after seeing BOTW do a different kind of open world, and failing in its own way, it becomes easier to go back to the standard kind of open world, and stop seeing it as 'open' but rather as ' the standard kind', and begin to see where they fail too. It sort of removes the veil of majesty around the whole genre.
I wanted to keep saying it.
AssCreed has more fun movement than BotW. There is seriously nothing that fun about BotW's movement and I don't understand why it's touted so much. Running and scaling around in AssCreed Odyssey actually feels kind of refreshing after dopily sprinting and slowly climbing everywhere in BotW
This is a mentally ill faggot called Doug Harris with a crippling autism (that prevents him from understanding any argument raised) and massive victim complex (in which whoever raises an argument has to atone for the insults of every person who has called him a mentally ill faggot in the 5 years he's been shitting up Metroid and Zelda threads). Do not enable his illness by replying seriously.
>No comments on the video saying "Keep saying it"
is he deleting comments?
you should be a voice actor
quality top kek
He hates jrpgs
Sure. here's two examples right now.
I see people calling me a faggot, but I don't see them backing up their accusation with a strong discussion. And that's honestly more offensive than any swear or insult.
>one of them isn't even quoting anyone
This is the aforementioned victim complex. Do not enable him. Do not treat him as you would a normal person.
No
Based eceleb zoomertard thread
See, it's easier to talk about BOTW when people can take some criticism. I'd be happy to talk about the parts I actually enjoyed, like the dark forest where you had to manage your light sources, or the lynels who actually were decent challenges (especially in a three heart run). I just can't find myself enjoying it when every other thread is mindless praise and people poking the flames of the console wars.
Like this unfortunate fellow, for instance.
>Then kindly explain why you won't have a discussion with me, a famed shitposter who is instantly recognizable by my style of shitposting prose on an anonymous image board and demands people engage with me while I make circular arguments that are somehow worthy of serious discussion and not disdain
>vocaroo.com
If this was 2005, this would get reposted to hell and back and would be remembered for posterity's sake.
A little taste of the vintage.
Only if you wanted to be sweaty
The post is obviously addressed to me, even if it isn't quoting me directly. Are you blind?
You're not fooling anyone ACfag
>this person is obviously a shitposter because they.... said they didn't like BOTW that much?
Because they are cucks. That's why.
Pretty much this. It's so pathetic. He shits up BotW threads for two years and repeatedly admits he's shitposting off of youtube footage and trial and error drive-by shitposts.
Then he tries it and NOW he wants to have a civil discussion on it. It's appalling.
>people calling me out by my moniker is the same as calling people faggots and niggers
This is desperate even for you ACfag
See, there he goes again. Continues angrily flailing about with insults because I committed the horrific crime of rating BOTW below a 10/10 score.
e-celeb board when?
>omg they don't want to engage with me in discussion and all I did was maike BotW threads unbearable to browse for 24 months! So unfair!
KH is largely blown out of proportion with the detauled motkves and reasons for a bunch of caharacters that show up once to do a thing and then fuck off forever. If you want to go that autistic into FF7 you can do that too, but most people just care about cloud and sephiroth. KH is equally easy to follow when you go at it with the single minded dedication child-you did with cloud, ignore the motives of every good guy that isnt sora, and just assume theyre your allies because they are.
What is the point in mentioning anything good when you autists immediately pounce on someone who says anything bad. You're either someone who worships breath of the wasteland or someone who doesn't.
The original point I was making in response to THIS
post was that by allowing a player to undertake any quest at any time instead of restricting them to one long linear path that gate keeps content in is fact a positive, and that his idea that it was a non-positive is fucking ridiculous. I am not starting an argument over what arbitrary level of hand holding constitutes too much. I'm saying is that some kind of instruction in necessary for any game, and having those instruction appear in a non intrusive and gameplay oriented way is great. If you think that it's too restrictive that's fine, but I am confused why you seem to dislike breath of the wild so much, as it is one of the least restrictive games made in the past 5-10 years.
You're not fooling anyone ACfag
Why call me a fag though? What have I done to justify such a name?
>he shits up BOTW threads
HOW? I'm asking you right now, how do I supposedly do this? I have done nothing but make criticisms of the game. I have never once shitposted against your game. Please, if you have any proof to the contrary, then I'd love to see it.
Fuck, I need to stop longposting on phone.
>detauled motkves and reasons for a bunch of caharacters
Detailed, motives, characters
You're not fooling anyone ACfag.
Work on your reading comprehension.
I find it restrictive because it limits my freedom for the sake of the story. And I've never heard a single defense for it.
I'll take shit that never happened for 500, Alex.
holy shit my sides
Gee, look at that. Spam and shitposting, and yet you claim the high ground.
Eh, I get what he means. Breath of the Wild, is open world in that the majority of the game never feels like it's a point A to point B game. Everyone ends up out there looking at something and saying "I'm going to go there because I bet there's something there". It's far from perfectly done, but structurally that's what an open world game should be. Spiderman and Red Dead, there's the actual story and then there's blatantly dicking around. The dicking around never feels like the main game and thus the open world never feels like anything more than just padding.
I will sincerely feel happy when you stop coming here.
>shitting up Metroid threads
To be honest there's not much left to shit up. Every metroid thread since Prime trilogy stopped being fresh has been 30% tired discussion and 65% idiots who don't know how to find a porn board if they want to fap to zss
>Pointing out my lack of basic reading comprehension is spam and shitposting
Nice try ACfag.
>I have done nothing but make criticisms of the game. I have never once shitposted against your game. Prove me wrong.
lol
>the man who says "talking about BOTW in any negative light is shitposting" is now lecturing us on reading comprehension
Wait a sec, Bobcat Goldthwaith posts on Yea Forums?
Imagine, IMAGINE arguing that story in a video game is important over gameplay.
Well he's not wrong. BotW is so far ahead right now others won't be able to compete for a long time. It's truly embarrassing other companies can't get open world right
That's why he's moved onto shitting up other threads for games that bear any remote resemblance to Other M in his twisted autistic mind.
Classic Doug Harris intellectual dishonesty.
Keep
Saying
It
>>the man who says "talking about BOTW in any negative light is shitposting"
Nobody said that you strawmanning fuck. Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
I like how everyone in this thread never actually checked to see if Dunky said those things, which he didn't. Y'all gotta verify before raging.
BOTW2 was probably one of the games i was less interested in, that said nintendo still won
>Cadence of Hyrule
>Astral Chain
>NMH3
>Luigi’s Mansion 3
>FE3H
>DAEMON X MACHINA
>Panzer Dragoon: Remake
>Trials of Mana
>Maybe Sakuna, gives me a Muramasa vibe
we get it user we all watched the arlo video
See, this is where I disagree. Every dead OtherM thread is a net improvement of this site overall.
Sometimes I wonder what kind of life ACfag lives. Is he a NEET living from the government? Does he have a normal job and family?
That explains why people are able to identify your shitposting ass in threads that have fuckall to do with BOTW. Give up retard.
>which he didn't
But he did lol
Keep saying it
Woah.. a former League of Legends player has shit taste in video games.
Too bad Nintendo doesn't even agree with him
Proven fake
A brief history of ACfag and BotW:
>empty
>gets BTFO
>Samey map
>gets BTFO
>flurry rush makes the game a cinematic experience
>gets BTFO
>game isn't open because I can't kill NPCs
>gets BTFO
>after two years of this he FINALLY tries it
>it has some flaws (everyone agrees upon) can we discuss this game now?
Since when is referring to someone "[blank]fag" on Yea Forums amount to calling people nigger tranny and faggots?
Is that why you wont adopt a tripcode? Because you're offended by the term tripfag?
I think I'm getting it now
But Spider Man forces you to dick around the open city at some points
lol
I disagree with Red Dead and Spiderman not benefitting from an open world.
One thing RDR2 was very clearly going for was immersion. That's why everything is so fucking slow paced. An open world where you can ride anywhere with your horse is absolutely necessary for immersion.
And of course Spiderman would benefit from an open world when web swinging is like the number one fucking thing everyone wants to do with him
Did you even read my post?
Storywise too, botw is the only game where the npc literally told you to go out and have fun before tackling on your "resposibility". I knew I will go dicking around even if the game didn't said so but in botw case I actually managed to go full retard on being a dick because that's exactly what the game told me to do and the game firmly assured me that there wouldn't be any consequence for doing so.
Rockstar admitted that every game they made copied Ocarina of Time. Your point?
KEEP SAYING IT
Source it.
Whether this is real or fake, this really does sound like him.
the first vocaroo pasta
this should be linked in reply to any brainwashed individual that loses sight of a normal functional lexicon in favor of generic Yea Forums-isms. i.e. based, cringe, soi, tranny, OHNONONO, implying, etc.
The war against """"board culture"""" starts now.
>Nobody said that you strawmanning fuck.
Then kindly find me a BOTW thread where criticism is actually levied and listened to, instead of blanket hated by the fanbase.
>it has some flaws
GTFO. Every suggestion that isn't the obvious "muh AI" could be better is cringe tier. Fucking fags that think they're game designers when their ideas would complete ruin the game
Literally just watch the video faggot
>Zelda is literally a 10/10 game, and ANY criticism, no matter how small, is shitposting
Do you actually believe this?
This can't be real
You're getting desperate now ACfag
You're equating any negative said about the game as if it held the same validity
There is a difference between complaining about shrines having the same tileset, movesets for weapons being basically one-handed and two-handed and saying it's a "boring empty ubisoft clone bore of the bitch shart of the cunt"
forumophilia.com
keep saying it octopathfags
I liked breath of the wild
Criticism is fine for any game but the criticism against BotW has just been retarded. Some of them don't even understand the story and that's not hard to understand at all
fucking kek
That Nintendo used to make influential games, now they make hot garbage
LMAO
Just find me one thread.
See, you guys are lying right now. You have NEVER accepted any criticism of the game. If you have, then show me a thread. Go into the archive and prove your case.
It's true tho
>PROVE ME WRONG
Desperate
See, this really shows the insanity of the Zelda fan. There is no story outside of optional random 30 second cutscenes. It's not even possible to not understand it.
This is desperate and low, even for you.
>you guys are lying right no
You're lying right now, retard. You've been doing this for 2 years now. Just shitposting. Seriously kill yourself
>Yea Forums is full of eceleb worshiping cucks
It all makes sense now.
>make claim that someone ruins your threads
>can't back it up by showing even one thread
Not really, this is typical ACfag behavior. Just deny and deflect
BoTW benefits from Zelda bias. It has the exact same problems a lot of other open world games have where most of the environment is just window dressing with nothing to do in it, super narrow areas of the map being utilized for main gameplay hooks, and the rest just being for collectibles or whatever crafting/equipment system the game has.
>someone calls you out as a chronic shitposter
>immediately reveal yourself in a single reply
>prove that it wasn't me shitting up those threads
It's hilarious that you ask for atonement for every time you've been called ACfag and insulted but can't have a modicum of accountability for shitting up BotW threads for 24 months.
The defense for it is that there is a story. To truly have no limits you have to forgo narrative structure, and if you want that play a sandbox game like minecraft. Quests by definition are restrictive, since you have to talk to a specific NPC to start them and do a specific thing for them to finish it, but breath of the wilds style of allowing you to start quests in any order and complete them at your leisure without restricting content leans as heavily into sandbox as you can without abandoning the idea of a quest altogether.
why are you guys taking a man who played league of legends for years and yells about things on youtube to zoomers opinions on games seriously?
Obviously he is gonna have a limited and base view on video games.
I've never shitposted once in my entire time here.
Then again, you say you have 2 years of evidence. It would sure "BTFO" me if you actually showed even one of those threads.
>I've never shitposted once in my entire time here.
youtube.com
People don't know where the jokes end and serious begins unless the statement is super exaggerated and clearly hyperbolic.
It's really why you shouldn't do comedy, but also want your opinions to be taken seriously. Separate your content at the very least.
>The defense for it is that there is a story
And that is BOTW's biggest flaw; it has a story. Story is a disgusting, cancerous blob of resetera pandering/hollywood shit. The story should never, EVER impede my freedom in a game, even if it means not having a story. Minecraft showed that it can work, as did Terraria. Starbound had a story, and it was putrid unfinished garbage. What a shock!
>kiwifarms.net
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. I don't wanna be all "it's Leah" but guys... it's Leah.
>bro botw is so innovative
>why?
>well you can climb walls and snowboard on your sheild and stuff and if its raining you can slip, its epic bro
>but all that has been done before
>stfu snoy boy
every botw thread ever
>prove to me that I'm a shitposter
ok
Proven fake? I need proof. My jimmies have not been this rustled in a long time.
>make criticism of game
>STFU SHITPOSTER
Bro, you just posted some major cringe.
ACfag
has got autism bad
ACfag
has got autism bad
ACfag's been on Yea Forums
for seven years or more
(years or more)
And he's kind of obsessed
with Armored Co-o-o-ore
(Armored Core)
He's got a holy crusade
against cutscenes in games
(cutscenes in games)
You'll recognize his posts
and we all know his na-a-a-ame
(all know his name)
So if you're gonna discuss vidya games
you best look out
'Cause ACfag could very well be
responding right now!
ACfag
has got autism bad
He's in this thread
and he's making me so mad
AC, get a clue
this is not the board for you
I know it's kind of sad
but I'm JUST sick of ACfag
ACfag
has got autism bad
ACfag
has got autism bad
He writes off games with waifus
off as "sex fanservice"
(sex fanservice)
Calls Bayonetta a movie
It's getting me pi-i-i-issed
(getting me pissed)
Everything must be gameplay
and it's gotta be hard
(gotta be hard)
'Cause when they went after Samus
they went to fa-a-a-ar
(went too far)
Like many Metroid fanboys triggered hard
by Other M
But this one takes that grudge to everything
again and again
ACfag
has got autism bad
He's in this thread
and he's making me so mad
AC, get a clue
this is not the board for you
I know it's kind of sad
but I'm JUST sick of ACfag
>It has the exact same problems a lot of other open world games have where most of the environment is just window dressing with nothing to do in it,
No it doesn't.
What other games let's me use my shield as a snowboard ?
>but all that has been done before
It's funny because you can't actually mention one game because you know you would get BTFO
>the first vocaroo pasta
Jesus is this your first week?
because you say so that makes it true right?
But Spiderman is exactly the kind of game that benefits from being open-world. And this is coming from someone who hates open-world.
>>make criticism of game
That's a funny way of saying autistic rambling about the existence of stories somehow ruining video games.
If that's what you want to believe, go right on ahead. Just because you can climb it doesn't make it any more meaningful than riding a horse past it or flying a jetpack up it.
saints row 4 has way more mobility and ability to break the game with mechanics and fly around
spiderman has better climing
minecraft has spreading fire on anything wood, not just bridges
but ok
le btfo zoomer wins again
His statement about BOTW has caused so much asshurt I'll consider it an apology for calling Mega Man 11 unfair when he was just shit at the game
but when you say so that makes it true?
Red Dead being open world was pretty unnecessary. Travelling between missions and locations while autorunning your horse is a glorified loading screen. Sure, you can deviate from the path to explore, but what will you find? Nothing worth looking at, unless you want to kill some kkk members. Otherwise, you hold one button and just keep going until you make it.
because you say so that makes it true right?
doing it first does not equal doing it best
invention doesn't equal innovation
BOTW didn't invent
BOTW didn't do any one thing first
But BOTW innovated and it combined them all in such a way that it became the best.
ESL?
>has to stack up three games to a single game
>this will prove my point!
I still don't get this
NOW I know why he likes The Shining so much
>spiderman has better climing
Figures you can't even spell
ESL?
>That's a funny way of saying autistic rambling about the existence of stories somehow ruining video games.
Funny how it's perfectly legitimate to want ALL cutscenes removed from a Ps4 game, but the moment I ask for the same in a Nintendo game, now it's crazy and autistic. Tell me, where does it stop being acceptable to hate cutscenes? How many waifus per square inch does the game need before cutscenes are now magically okay?
just that the game isn't innovative
you can slide down slopes in any open world game from the last decade
you can burn shit in dead by daylight
its just a bullshit narrative Yea Forums fanboys latched onto and parroted
its why no one even replays BotW, it's empty and boring
This is the memeiest fucking opinion I have ever seen on Yea Forums.
There are more ways to transverse the world than just climbing and there are more ways to interact with the environment than your typical AAA open world game. Whether you enjoy it is up to you, but to say "most of the environment is just window dressing with nothing to do in it" is just flat out false.
Cope Dunkey
OHNONONONONO
But can you do all of it one game? Name any game that gives me the same experience BOTW does and I will enthusiastically tell you what it's missing. You retards don't know what innovation means
And then you wonder why nobody takes you seriously with shitposts like these, ACfag.
The only turned based RPG he can stomach is Persona 5 because "much personality!"
Skyrim
like maybe 5 or 6 my dude
>innovation
>a new method, idea, product, etc.
NOTHING NEW
BUT IT WAS INNOVATIVE MASTERPIECE
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
It's a shitpost now? Wanting cutscenes gone from any given PS4 game made me "based and redpilled" in every single other thread. It seems that only YOU have a problem with it.
You know what old Yea Forums used to call story games? Cutscene simulators. Because the main point of the game was to get to the next cutscene. In Sony games these are the main focus
>BUT OTHER GAME
You cannot show me a game that plays like BOTW.
>But huge open worlds have been done before!
>But weapon scavenging has been done before!
>But camping/cooking/crafting has been done before!
>But overworld secrets have been done before!
>But weather systems have been done before!
>But nifty physics manipulation and physics-based puzzles have been done before!
>But non-linear progression and selective scaling have been done before!
>But moon cycles and special world events have been done before!
You can find a game that has any one of these elements but the choices start to wane when you try to show me games that contain even three of these elements together. The choices start to diminish even further when you take into account the sheer size of BOTW's world and how well-crafted its own landscape is with how well it lends itself to exploration. Finally, your "other game" choices are completely obliterated when I tell you that none of them have the added bonus of being spiced up with staples from a beloved series such as Zelda. To say nothing of the fact that you can just turn the game on and go, and even casually playing and exploring the world you're certain to stumble across something that piques your interest or discover something new about the game like I'm doing after 150+ hours. No railroading required. The vastness and flowing design of BOTW's overworld HASN'T been done by any other game and I'll eat my hat if you can show me just one, preferably one that lets you traverse its world in total freedom like BOTW does with its climbing mechanic. You won't and you can't, because you're just a salty moron mad about a game's success who keeps harping on about how it didn't innovate because you also think innovation = invention.
I was thinking the same thing as I was playing this overhyped shit
>Spiderman didn't benefit from being open world
How the FUCK are you gonna make a proper spiderman game if you can't swing around New York stopping crimes?
Yeah but you keep talking about fire, what about lightning and its conduction? What about the overall effect of explosions? The properties of ice? What about the effects of lightning + rain or water? What about all those interconnected systems? What about the fine tuned physics? The handcrafted map? The non linearity? The open ended structure?
>but see you can burn shit in far cry
Riveting.
Try harder ACfag.
how's life as a shill treating you?
>It didn't make me feel like Spiderman though.
Narrative is important to games so long as it has minimal impact. I think breath of the wild's story has minimal impact on the game, the changes you want are minor at best. Even if you are 100% serious in your beliefs, your hyberbole and extreme viewpoint is so ridiculous that I can't take you seriously. You must hate such a vast majority of videogames that I doubt you even enjoy the medium. You are a pedant, stickler, and an ass.
if botw is so good go play it
>Qt gf
I don't think you've seen her, user. They are both a solid 2/10
Yes, and? That just tells me that cutscenes are ALL bad, regardless of amount of context. If you don't demand them being completely cleansed from the medium, then they'll take over, as the Ps4 demonstrates. I don't like the Ps4, so obviously I don't want cutscenes to have even a tiny foothold in the industry. Do you like the Ps4 and its library of cinematic cutscene simulators?
>no you see it's just a little cutscenes, it's okay
Yeah, it's just a little cancerous tumor. Tumors never grow and become terminal or anything.
-Smaller map with fewer locales
-Story progression gated behind innumerable glitchy quests
-You CAN'T climb that mountain
-No physics puzzles
-No unique world events
-No survival, weather, chemistry mechanics
-Shit horse gameplay
-Stiffer combat
Cope
If the intent here is to follow a Soulsian “hard is good” philosophy and apply it to the open world genre, it was misplaced. Souls games are about reaction, movement, and practice. You can’t practice finding a piece of korok seed. If the intent is only to keep the player feeling oppressed, strapped for time, exhausted, hungry and weary, well, that doesn’t mean I won’t also resent having to spend so much time doing the most boring species of meter-management in what could have been a captivating adventure game.
Stamina is the worst offender. You can enter abandoned houses and loot them, or even burglarise “healthy” houses. But there’s never any food in the kitchens. There are abandoned fields and free beds everywhere, but you can't sleep in some of them. All this together with the samey enemy models and the clumsy combat, and Breath of the Wild feels less like an interesting failure and more like a budget Skyrim
I accept your concession
>Yeah, it's just a little cancerous tumor. Tumors never grow and become terminal
You just described yourself, manchild
>Yeah, it's just a little cancerous tumor. Tumors never grow and become terminal or anything.
That's ironic coming from you ACfag
>Narrative is important to games
Who let Resetera in?
What do you think "new method" means exactly? None of BOTW's elements were ever combined or presented in conjunction the way that they were in that game. That is why people love it. Time to get over it, let go. Focus on games you like. You'll never change the opinions of those of us who've loved the game going on 3 years now.
lots of open world games have intertwined and complex systems
you being a casual and playing botw before them doesn't change that
i'm out of this shithole of a thread full of actual underaged zoomers
>smaller map
yes
>fewer locales
uh no, BotW is as empty as a Ubisoft map while Skyrim has shit littered everywhere
you CAN climb mountains, but bro my 3 second animation is so important
there's tonnes of survival and weather mechanics, did you play the game?
unique world events? you're putting scripted events as a pro? or is wakling into bobling 50 a unique event?
the combat is better than in botw's shitty flurry attack garabge
Cope
you forgot trannies, incel and have sex. still a solid 9/10.
>cutting off the rest of the sentence and quoting it out of context
Typical ACfag.
go play botw
oh wait
the games so boring you'll never touch it again and continue to praise it on Yea Forums
you're see through
and retards will never be rocket scientists, does that me we shouldn't try to educate them on a basic level?
go play botw if its so good
you probaly have 20 hours it in faggot
Play some fucking game like morrowind first you fucking retard
Looks like someone triggered ACfag's anti-story autism!
Mention them.
Mention those games.
And they have to have more complexity, otherwise your point is nonexistent.
You won't though, you'll just leave the thread.
>500 posts arguing some literal whos opinion
Wasn't it proven fake already though? With Leah's moles and shit. Not that it matters for you.
>I AM BOOOOOMER ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIE
>think gameplay is more important than story
>get called cancerous
>say something really, REALLY stupid
>be surprised when someone doesn't read further into your post
You probably should save that for the end of your post, user. Just a heads up.
I have played it for 500 hours and counting
Joke's on you faggot.
>mention those games
Terraria.
yeah fucking right you faggot
if you were that in love you'd be playing right now
you know you can't stomach walking around empty green fields for hours again and following a little blip for the next 3 minute shrine
>say something really, REALLY stupid
Again the irony. And you're surprised nobody takes your demands for "discussion" seriously.
What the fuck did BOTW do? It’s not better than a Ubisoft game.