What are some Jap games that are good for learners?

late gen pokemon. you can switch between languages easily iirc.
animal crossing. same thing you can do this with the phone app well. easy as fuck
my japanese coach. design for travelers and absolute newbies.

there is also replaying your favorite game that you beaten a 1000x in japanese. you should be able parse words together.
>oh it says たたかう/戦う in place of attack
shit like that

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手伝ってくれる人なしで日本語を勉強することは超難しいです
自閉症を持つことは尚更難しくする

Any game that you actually want to play enough to keep you motivated to continue learning.
For me, it was the Rance series.

honestly if I ever wanted to learn a ching chong language I'd go for Mandarin Chinese, it sounds way easier to learn with 1 instead of 3 alphabets plus you could always land a sweet job exploiting Africans after learning it

>learning chinese
someone post the image

strong dekinai

Unironically Yakuza

5 yuan have been deposited into your account

Literally anything you want to play

Dragon Warrior is only in English, though?

>tfw you start studying a hundred new cards a day because you want to git gud fast but then you take a week-long e3 break and you end up with 1000 cards due and you have to start suspending cards because you don't have enough working memory in your brain for all the cards you don't know

一生懸命に勉強しても日本語を学ぶことは文字通り不可能です

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I'm playing Final Fantasy 3 right now and it's easy enough.

Animal Crossing. But seriously, pick up a textbook, download an anki deck and read NHK Easy News if you actually want to learn.

mega.nz/#F!0oBQQAZJ!HzoFhLUplfK8-OXS-p62lA

For those who might be interested.

>tfw N1 and can read whatever the hell I want
>never have to deal with sjw femcels messing with my jap games again

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Any tips for the test?

>wasting time on some shitty tests

do the kanzen master books and always keep a quick pace throughout the test

nice

my advice would be to absolutely make sure when you're reviewing items you're able to use them properly in past tense/present tense etc, create your own sentences with them. i'd argue it's better to have a handle on how to use the vocabulary and grammar and not know too many words, than the alternative of knowing a bunch of nouns and verbs but having no idea how to use them or pronounce them. you can always learn more words later
i used to do a week on, a couple of weeks off with learning new stuff. on the off weeks, anything i couldn't immediately recognize and pronounce got the "again" button and i forced myself to write a couple of sentences using the word in different ways

How about play what you want to play instead of spending all day reading shitty vns you'd never read otherwise because it's "easy." You DO have something you want to play right.

Slime Morii Morii

read this and reconsider

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I'm chink but not from mainland China, currently learning Japanese so I can jerk off to untranslated VNs
Learning Japanese is a lot of times easier since I learned Mandarin as a kid and a big part of Japanese is borrowed from it, especially when it comes to memorizing the kanjis

I wonder how hard the westerners have it when it comes to learning this language, mostly the anons on djt thread

It's piss easy outside the kanji. Kanji is a tedious grind so I'm not going to bother with it and instead look up kanji when needed

>tfw slogging through steins;gate at snails pace having to look up tons of stuff
Not going to make it bros

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read a book that has hiraganas next to the kanjis instead

>61 days streak in Duolingo
>only a handful of modules to go

It will soon be time to move on to better tools but, I must say, if it weren't for Duolingo I would've never gotten started. Or developed the habit of daily practicing.

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A fucking book? What do you think I am a nerd or something?

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>paying for shitlingo when anki exists

>learning Japanese to play video games
LMAO

Wagyan Land

It's free, bitch.

>learning a language that allows you to enjoy your hobbies to their full extent
Plus it's useful in my future line of work.

Don't forget

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Happens when you find a visual novel thats so good but only half of it is translated, gives you the motivation to learn a new skill that might or might not be useful to you in real life as well

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>mfw I learned english just to shitpost in american weeaboo toon parchments (and play videogames)

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Literally me

>Duolingo
lol

>needing at least 3 years to be barely literate
>have to learn at least 4000 kanji to be BARELY literate
>doing this when in a year/year and an half top we will have perfect automatic translator

>perfect automatic translator
Not happening anytime soon, bots can't into context

I would argue that machine translation doesn't always work out perfectly when it comes to slangs but then again, I have no clue how far translation technology has progressed
But I would rather be able to read and understand a context about scat and necrophilia on my own than having a bot read it and then sell it to advertisers

You're never going to make manga/video games in Japan, user. They are extremely racist and it's even legal for them to say NO FOREIGNERS on their buildings.

>3 years to be barely literate
Try 6 months fag. You can be fluent in a year and a half, if you try hard enough.

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I'll just wait for the Japanese to learn English

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noob

That girl thinks shes hot shit but she's ugly as fuck

>doing this when in a year/year and an half top we will have perfect automatic translator
Source? because people have been saying that for the last 20 years.

VH

>doing this when in a year/year and an half top we will have perfect automatic translator
I've been hearing this for like 7 years, yet here we are

We don't even have a translator for languages close to English like French or German that work particularly well.

This looks like a cute and comfy game.

>wasting time with dying languages

Yeah but I'm saying we can't even translate from those languages that are close to English to English, Japanese is pretty much as far from English as you can get.

>watch some namasensei stream of him shitting around in retro games
>suddenly find out he has a daughter now
time really flies huh

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Probably kidnapped it off the street

Shut the fuck up faggot.

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Set this as your wallpaper so you never forget

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>2nd day of anki with my mining deck
>studied 168 cards in 87 minutes today
fuck bros i think i might be retarded

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who?

are you pulling these numbers from your arse? 2k and a year is enough to play easy games and read most of the stuff over at sad panda

cringe

I asked around some threads before and got something along these lines

>Level 1
Pokemon
Animal Crossing
>Level 2
Dragon Quest
>Level 3
Sakura Wars
>Level 4
Final Fantsy (pre voice acting)
Persona
>Level 5
Yakuza
>Level 6
Didn't get any suggestions
>Level 7
Fatal Frame

I'm sorry I don't know who your meme streamer lord is.

Out of his ass so he can shitpost. Learning the 1000 most common kanji will get you to N2 level (of course you need the vocab and grammar too) which is more than enough to read doujins, watch tv, play games, etc. Of course you’ll have to look up kanji every once in a while but speaking from experience, the longer you study kanji the easier it gets because you start to recognize radicals and predict readings and meanings based on that

If anyone has some other video games you would like to suggest I'd be glad to hear some.

itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/game.html
/int/'s Japanese thread has this.Which game should I play? What emulates best?

Zelda is about Dragon Quest level

Why do people make such a big deal over kanji? Vocab is the real killer, and it's the real reason people give up on Japanese (or any language, really).

Whatever the fuck you want.

In the end, playing something you like and doing it every day will slowly get you good as long as you are actually trying to learn. This may require Anki grinding at the start to drill into your skull the very basics of how to kanji, until your brain accepts them.

Pokemon is good beginner friendly stuff but that doesn't mean it's not gonna contain "high level" words. Also, Kana-only is shit and should be avoided as it's really meant for people who are already fluent in the language.

After a year or so you should be able to reasonably play things that require actual reading comprehension and ability to guess what something means through pure context, such as 逆転裁判. From there, you just keep going.

Ultimately, everything you know carries over into the next thing, until eventually you just stop running into new shit all the time. Even then, playing things from new genres will slowly expand your vocab even if you don't want it to.

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What are some games to help me learn Korean?

BB's game

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Thank you to that user that encouraged me to pick up japanese back in 2016 here on Yea Forums. I owe you a lot.

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dumb fate poster

Got a better resolution version?

Which one is it, Yea Forums?

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>kana only is shit
yup
Earthbound was hard as hell at times but I did it.

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前者

Thanks. That's a good suggestion.

>Level 1
Pokemon
Animal Crossing
>Level 2
Dragon Quest
Zelda
>Level 3
Sakura Wars
>Level 4
Final Fantsy (pre voice acting)
Persona
>Level 5
Yakuza
>Level 6
Didn't get any suggestions
>Level 7
Fatal Frame

Fucking right?

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諦めない方がいい

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youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

出来ないちゃんとアナルセックスしたいけど私の日本語は上手が足りない

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Early YouTube relic. Made a Japanese speaking tutorial.
youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE

youtube.com/watch?v=l6R0gc8pnmE
that was glorious

what's wrong with fate?

I’m trying to learn Japanese so I can get into a brothel.

generally speaking japanese red light districts are no go areas for white people iirc.

I just played a bunch of text heavy games, mostly JRPGs, because I figured they'd be good reading practice. I started with games I'd played before playing games I hadn't. Was good times, I played a shitload of game is Nip for around 6 years, but lately I've been starting to play English versions more often unless the localization is very poor. Not entirely sure why, though I have some ideas.

Is this anime waifu asking you to do LSD with her, or have I completely forgotten this language to make room for other dumb bullshit?

>Not entirely sure why, though I have some ideas.
pls elaborate. is japanese getting boring to you or what?

Is that right? I haven't been to Japan yet, but I have got a trip planned for October. I kind of thought that it might be difficult for gaijin, so I emailed this one fetish service I wanted to try out and he said gaijin are okay as long as they can speak Nip. Was surprised, but hey, lucky break.

yep

Maybe a little, but I think that has to do with the fact that I translate for a living. That and I don't have the sort of free time I did when I was a NEET studying Japanese. Still glad I learned the language, but I'm not as bothered anymore. Some games I can't help but play in Japanese though like FF VII (most FFs, really).

Dude she wants you to go tell her about Mormonism.

Some places (brothels, restaurants, etc.) will outright ban foreigners - usually if they've had bad experiences with them in the past. But most places just say that because they don't want to deal with people who can't speak Japanese. If you speak Japanese, a lot of those "no foreigners" places quickly change their mind.

>studying j*Panese when you could be learning Russian instead

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it's entirely dependent on who's performing the service

the majority of females working in the business will tend to only cater to Japanese born. Which is not to say it doesn't exist.

who the fuck would want to live in Russia

i could make my own rifle in cad and it would be better than this piece of shit

I thought you weebs wanted to learn Japanese to watch animes and play JRPGs, do you fuckers actually want to live in Japan and be salarymen? WTF???

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ちがう

What should I do then If don't have the slightest interest whatsoever in interacting with Japanese people in real life, as I'm interested only in the written aspect of the language just for the sake of playing some games and reading some manga?
This advice is not useful at all in this case.

5 yen have been deposited into your account

brothel in Japan don't serve foreigners because they want to keep their "goods" clean
source: went to Tokyo last year

I suggest 村正, it's perfect for beginners!

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Am I imagining it or is she even MORE smug in that pic? Does her smugness know no limits?

Kids games like Mario, Animal Crossing and Pokemon

translators/localizers are that bad

>Plus it's useful in my future line of work
Please tell me its teaching so I can laugh at you

It's true.

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Just do your 10 minutes of Duolingo daily bro haha

I'm learning Japanese so I can buy Japanese physical copies of books, movies, games, music, etc, and be able to use them and the ones I already have without a translation

Was this a ratings thing? I can get using a generic insult like go fuck yourself instead of generic insult eat shit but why phrase it in such a hoity-toity way? Surely if they wanted to avoid a M rating something like get bent would work.

kanji is a shitty memorization grind that never fucking ends, the language isn't that complex outside of that and I'd argue if it wasn't for kanji it would be easier to learn than english
after WWII the american military tried to convince japan to stop using kanji and incorporate spaces into their language so it was easier to learn
i guarantee if they had done this every single person on this board interested in learning would have done so by now

the gaijin filter worked very well on this user, good job nippon

>Still no porn.

It's like japanese Shakespeare

A lot of things have to do with context. Like, 死ね doesn't always sound good as "Die!". くそ食らえ is indeed literally "Eat shit", but it can be translated other ways depending on the context. "Go pleasure yourself" was a weird choice for this scene though. I haven't played anything but the demos of that game, but I saw some other weird choices in there. One that sticks out to me is removing the ages in the bios when no one is younger than 18.

I don't plan to, I'm in engineering. Speaking Japanese puts me a step above in just about any Japanese company.

Not today, user.

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the sims

Amusingly enough, there are more kanji than there are stars in some galaxies like the Lightweight Galaxy, but a lot of things outstrip the numbers of starts in that one (around 1000).

Hey, that one guy managed to work on BOTW.

>shitty memorization grind that never ends

Look man, I straight up had a native speaker tell me today that he's been alive for almost 40 years and didn't know how to read the kanji for 擽る because he'd "never seen it before."

I then pointed out how that's a bit ridiculous since he would know something like 轢く if he saw it in a newspaper.

Either way, you have to learn enough of the Kanji to read decently. Thankfully it gets easier the longer you stick with it.

Do your heisigs user.

It's not that weird of a choice of words considering he literally just asked for her to pleasure him, so she's both turning him down and telling him to go fuck himself at the same time.

Oh is that right? Guess I forgot that detail. Then I can see why the choice was made.

You can't fool me, that's Ch-
>の
Oh..

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Porn visual novels, you fucking dolt.
Boner power is insanely strong, you'll be ahead of students who study japanese as a collage course within a month or two.
The best way to study is to simply read and listen, and the best way to do that is to just do it without complaining about the difficulty of what you're reading.
You'll be too horny to complain. Just make sure not to bust your nuts too early.

this user knows what's up

This but unironically. During the darkest times when I think I'll never be able to read slowly making my way through my favorite sad panda comics that have gone 8+ years with no translation keeps me motivated.

I did this and can recommend it. Learn the basics, kana and some basic kanji, and then just dive into a VN you are motivated to read. You will struggle, you will need to look up words every other sentence, but if you keep going, you'll finish reading with a lot more knowledge of the language than you started with. It helps if you can use a text hooker (don't use a translation function) to more easily look up words. The advantage of VNs is also that, because many parts are spoken too, you get references to look for words and learn some listening skills along the way too.

That's not so difficult.
words are concatenated like german.
狭量 悪辣 卑劣 外道 ...
Each words aren't not so difficult.
If you read LN or something,you'll stumble upon them.

I'm Western and live in Japan, and my moon will always be better than yours. Chinks always assume knowing kanji gives them a huge leg up when in reality kanji is the easiest part, and chinks have awful comprehension and speaking skills.

Kanji are fucking easy dude, quit reading garbage by people who gave up 5 minutes in.

RPGMAKER games like Towelket or pic, the text is straightforward and easily extracted with a text hooker of you need it.

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Yo-kai Watch.
Japanese level is easy because it's meant for a younger audience. Gives you both Kanji (with furigana) and some grammar practice. They're also fantastic games. I'd recommend the third one.

This, it's far more difficult for me to read a text without kanji and that's as a westerner. Like this shit why is 此処 in kanji, but a word like きみ in kana? Fucking just use kanji.

>Duolingo

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Made an image for the list. Yea Forums likes their lists in images.

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I feel bad for people like this. The ones who think a 10 minute schedule a day, where they type out absolute gibberish, is going to get them anywhere.

Kanji are the hardest part of learning the language though, mostly because they have multiple readings. That doesn't mean they don't make it easier to read. Learning kanji is the biggest hump to get over really, but once you get over it, it makes everything else so much easier. Even some grammatical aspects of the language really only start to make sense when you know the kanji. That's why so many people recommend to start with isolated kanji study.

I have fun learning Kanji. Memorizing the individual counters, irregular word readings and all of the different conjugations is way more tedious.

Thread theme
youtube.com/watch?v=nPF7lit7Z00

>Kanji are the hardest part of learning the language though
The only people who say this are idiots that think they know some moon, but know no moon.

>Kanji are the hardest part of learning the language though,
No, the hardest part of the language is learning 20,000 words.

It's not that difficult because every word sounds the same.

unironically dragon quest.

Are you retarded?

You're a stupid nigger.

It's true though. Everything else you can learn by watching anime.

Remember: 5 years will pass no matter what. Time never stops. On June 13, 2024 you will either be able to say "yes, i know japanese" or "i gave up on it years ago" Either way, that date is coming. Which will you be able to say? The choice is yours

>Everything else you can learn by watching anime.
10/10 trolling.

500 days of anime will teach you 20k vocab and all the grammar you need. This is not a joke.

>This is not a joke.
It is and you will literally never convince me otherwise.

If you pay attention to the dialogue rather than just reading the subs you'll obviously get better at understanding speech, i learned English by watching cartoons all day when i was 8

And you will never be able to hold a conversation in Japanese.

@466203504
>Everything else you can learn by watching anime.
literally not possible

unironically Katawa Shoujo
Possible to read even with my N4 and you can go back and forward through the dialogue if you didn't get something. Also, it's better to not play fantasy games since their vocabulary is unnecessarily complicated

Why would i even try conversing?

Literally is possible

It is not, and it is also the way for a more natural understanding of Japanese. You will not learn specific grammar rules per se, but you will immediately feel when something is right and when something is wrong. You don't think of rules, but rather everything flows naturally.

Only thing that properly teaches you output is output. But who gives a shit about output?

>You will not learn specific grammar rules per se, but you will immediately feel when something is right and when something is wrong
Nope. No one would actually take the "yeah I totally learned basic moon from watching anime" meme seriously.

SNES Final Fantasy games are good due to having both English and Japanese game scripts available online, so you can easily check new words with Rikaichamp. Not to mention that while language isn't too complicated, they feature most of the standard game (and JRPG) terminology, so they are good starting points.
Personally I found them to be more playable than games that just use kana like Earthbound, since with that I had some trouble identifying different words, as there were no kanji or spaces to indicate breaks between them.

>anons here seriously think they can learn natural Japanese through anime

Not only will you not know how to produce sentences with correct grammar, anything you manage to spit out will immediately sound like cringy anime speak that Japanese people will make fun of behind your back. Japanese will straight up just use butchered English on you instead of Japanese if your Japanese doesn’t sound fluent. I know people who complain about visiting Japan and say “I tried speaking Japanese to them and they just responded in English” and its no wonder when I listen to their broken Japanese

I learnt Japanese from anime. I have watched thousands of hours of untranslated Japanese media without problems and chatted with some natives I made friends with on niconico streams

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It's supposed to be the 1950s so the scenario writer attempted to use generic kanji forms instead of modern kana and other stuff.

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>I learnt Japanese from anime.
I'm sure you actually believe that.

its more on the advantage of looking at a kanji and the word looks similar so you can guess its meaning while to westerns, the kanjis look like some alienated drawing

How did I learn it then?

If the entirety of your studying comes from anime, then you didn't learn it.

How do you explain the fact I have no trouble watching anime or Japanese youtube videos without subtitles?

>how did I learn it
no one is buying your shit. get a clue.

You just stuck with it or had to grind anki like the rest of us monkeys?

>being this jelly someone learnt Japanese the easy way while you still can't understand anything

>not believing in bullshit makes you jealous

lol

seething

Not him but I'm skeptical as well. If you're not lying that's extremely impressive but if your only tool for learning nip is anime how do you know you "know" 20k words?

You're watching extremely simple SoL series with visual cues, and even then you're not actually understanding everything they say.

Sometimes they're good.

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I don't know how many words I know in Japanese, just like I don't know how many words I know in English

How come I understand radio shows then?

>500 days of anime will teach you 20k vocab
Did you just pull this out of your ass? Here's your (you) anyway. If you know nip that's cool.

Why? I might seriously consider it

Okay. Let's see how long it takes you to be unable to understand "verbal" moon. We'll start easy.
Konya no seijou kougi ga owattara himadesho? Chotto tsukiattekureru? Ikitai mise ga arunndakedo hitoride hairizurai. Tsuiteitekuretara ippai ogoruzo.

Neko tomo.

If you have a switch you'll find it in the japanese eshop. plus it's cute

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How is Sakura Wars?

Video games in general are really bad for learning Japanese, if you are not very advanced already

This is because you tend to memorize and ignore text, and also cannot look it up easily. An exception are maybe VNs where you can copypaste text.

A much better way to learn Japanese is via anime and japanese/romaji/english subtitles
animelon.com/

Go alone you faggot

Sakura wars is fantastic, it's like playing through a cheesy 90s OVA.

I don't want the gist of it, user. I want you to show me that you actually understand the language.

The Japanese in it really not that difficult?
Might give it a go. What's the best way to play it?

And I'm not translating sentences for you

It's reasonably difficult, and for a beginner you might get fucked by the timed choices which show up constantly.

As for playing it, just run the PC releases through a XP VM. Anything later has some weird issues like not being able to copy your save file to the next game and shit. You could play the PS2 remake of the first game, but I like sticking with the original.

>decide to check out the ps2 one
>game is set in new york
>one of your party members is black girl and she lives in harlem
>get jumped when I try to visit her
it's pretty great

>Yeah, I actually learned to understand the language just from anime
>Y-You want me to translate a simple sentence to show I'm not completely full of shit? No way
To anyone thinking about learning moon in this thread, keep in mind that people pretending they learned Japanese from anime are complete fucking retards.

I'm just not going to play games with you

Do you think textbooks are a waste of time? I often hear that they will only give you a surface level understand of grammar and I can see why but you have a lot of people at N1 saying they're quite helpful.

You should try a few for grammar. If you're an ESL, use Tae Kim, if you're an EOP, use Japanese the manga way, and from both of those you can move onto the dictionary of Japanese grammar as a lookup tool.

For anything else, textbooks are worthless. J>E E-dictionaries are good enough until you don't need them anymore, and then you can just J>J with Google when you see a new word.

Your farce is over. You don't know Japanese, and need to stop pretending you do.

Textbooks are great for starting out. I can't imagine not having used one to learn basic stuff. Personally, I recommend Genki. Also, if someone uses the JLPT as a dick measure for how good their moon is, ignore them. Only SEA monkeys from /jp/ and English "teachers" in Japan think it matters. Anyone who actually knows moon can tell you that it doesn't nothing more than measure if you can read textbook examples about as well as an average middle school student.

Lol, that's around N4 all right.

Except for "seijou kougi" which is some neologism you made up.

Then again, I always want to learn. What did you mean by "seijou kougi"? Cause 政情講義 isn't a real word and 正常講義 is pointless. And if you meant 成城, you're just being a dick.

What path did you self taught anons take to start understanding untranslated Japanese games? I'm a fucking moron who needs a guide for difficult things like learning moon.

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Thanks for helping a noob out.

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>Lol, that's around N4 all right
Did the "We'll start easy" part give it away?

>which is some neologism you made up.
No, it's common real world Japanese used on a college campus. Try actually learning how to speak the language normally instead of getting excited over JLPT vocab.

>What did you mean by "seijou kougi"?
I already gave you a hint. Figure it out yourself.

I just got linked djtguide.neocities.org/guide.html by some user and followed it until I was comfortable reading basic sentences.

That was my first post in the thread. You can admit you made up some bullshit.

Lots of anime

This looks really good. Thanks.

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I learnt kana in a day with the nama-sensei method of writing them all out 50 fucking times, used Kanjidamage (not recommended) to learn 1.7k kanji, their meanings, and 2-3 readings over the course of 3 months with Anki, and then blitzed through Core6k at 50-100 words a day until they started becoming more complex at the 2k mark, so I cut down to 20 words a day.

After about 4-5k I started mining words, and from there mined my way to fluency through native material. Grammar is just something you look up when you encounter it in a sentence.

>That was my first post in the thread.
Yes, and? When did I claim otherwise.

>You can admit you made up some bullshit.
It's about as made up as "biochem lecture." You couldn't find it in the dictionary and couldn't make the natural jump to figure it out, because you don't have a functional understanding of the language. Most of what you know probably comes from VNs. If you can't figure it out now after that second hint I just gave you, then you should give up on Japanese entirely.

Wow, so I don't know a 省略 from your field.

You're some subhuman that failed at N2 and got accepted on an English course on a Japanese uni. Good luck being you.

I passed JLPT1 in 2005 and I'm still not entirely happy with my Japanese desu

>You're some subhuman that failed at N2 and got accepted on an English course on a Japanese uni. Good luck being you.
Remember, the only people that bring up JLPT levels are idiots that don't really know moon, and are likely ESLfags from /jp/. The N1 means nothing more than "you can kind of read as much as a Japanese middle school student." And for the record, if you weren't completely retarded you'd have picked up that my field is STEM based on the example I gave of an English abbreviation.

kys EoP cuck and pokefag

Whoever keeps making these threads, thanks a lot. They've really helped motivate me to start studying and I've finally reached the point where I feel comfortable reading manga with the help of OCR+Jisho. I know /jp/ has /djt/ but I just don't like the atmosphere over there, it feels too circlejerky and focussed on youtubers, the occasional threads here and on Yea Forums have been a lot more encouraging.

Luckily Japanese employers will care about my N1 and my diploma from a Japanese uni. And of course my spoken Japanese at interviews.

You can graduate and fuck right off, you STEM monkey. Btw, I heard you aren't allowed out of the labs except on Sundays. Is that true?

>EoP
死ね

>I know people who complain about visiting Japan and say “I tried speaking Japanese to them and they just responded in English” and its no wonder when I listen to their broken Japanese
Just finishing a trip to Japan, chilling at Narita, and I've never had this happen. How bad would your Japanese have to be for this to occur?

I don't even want to live or work in Japan, at most go on a vacation there. I'm just learning the language for the porn(-games).

>Japanese employers
If you live in Japan and work at a Japanese company, you're an idiot. No employer worth anything gives a shit about the JLPT.

>and my diploma from a Japanese uni.
I'm sure your mid tier school undergrad degree is important.

>And of course my spoken Japanese at interviews.
And I'm sure your basic conversational skills impress them. I hope you at least learned business moon.

>You can graduate and fuck right off, you STEM monkey
I'll be here far longer than you will, seeing as you'll finish your 4 year 文系 program, get a job that pays about 300k yen a month, and then burn out within a year or two.

Want to know how I know you are a zoomer and were born after 2005?
Because faggots have been saying the same shit since 1995, when the first dictation and translation programs started to pop up.
You have no grasp of the intrinsic idiosyncrasy of human languages whatsoever.
Like this user said; English and German are extremely close in terms of grammar rules and syntax construction. Yet even the best ai translator will give you potato-tier gibberish like:

Take wood from the spruce trunk,
But let it be quite dry
That the pressed flame
Hit the dagger!
Cook the copper porridge!
Quick bring the tin,
That the chewy bell-pie
Flow in the right way!

vs. the original:

Nehmet Holz vom Fichtenstamme,
Doch recht trocken laßt es sein,
Daß die eingepresste Flamme
Schlage zu dem Schwalch hinein!
Kocht des Kupfers Brei!
Schnell das Zinn herbei,
Daß die zähe Glockenspeise
Fließe nach der rechten Weise!

Literally SOUL vs. SOULLESS. All the delicacy and beauty of the prose is lost in translation and you get pants-on-head retarded shit like daggers and chewy bell-pies out of nowhere

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There's a better djt on /int/

The only way to learn a language is to use it, so go read.

I want to start learning after I'm done with my exams in like two weeks. I've learned a couple of languages, even Slavrunes, but I've never dealt with any Asian languages.

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Most of those aren't complicated at all

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But you won't learn special Japanese words used in gaijin circles from reading

My man, while I like the example you've chosen, it's really not representative of what most people would use a translation device for. Literally 90% of actual Germans would have a very hard time understanding what those few lines are about. And, I'm guessing, about 70% of German language students would decide to quit studying if they were given THAT to analyze.

/djt/ used to be an Yea Forums thread. Then the mods (who had a strong vendetta against the thread) banished it to /jp/.
/jp/ fought pretty hard to have it fuck back off and the hostile atmosphere allowed the thread to degenerate to /vg/ levels.

go learn some usefull language like chinese you dumb ass weeb

Don't you have an EGS thread to be shilling in?

one case, and you niggers want to make it general
kys

Wow edgy little EoP can google, good job

I don't think any of the original Yea Forums anons are still around, it's been 12 years or some shit

>I know /jp/ has /djt/
cancer. pure cancer. worse than Resetera's tranny invasion.
I'm glad I jumped that burning, sinking ship at the right time. I took a peek over there recently and it has become something else entirely compared to what it used to be on Yea Forums.

何もググっていないけど?

Look up chinese gutter oil.

your moms fat ass exceeded the thread limit

Someone's full of assumptions.

But I guess you STEM monkeys aren't asked for any serious level of Japanese. And sorry about the Sunday. Seems like you can go out on Saturdays afternoon too.

Really because it seems like you aren't saying that.

If you check the Yea Forums archives for the old threads you will see they were quality regardless. Then the fucking Reddit mods boned it all

Incompetent EoP at that

>tfw watching that one fags video on pitch accent
Literally impossible. You CAN NOT learn Japanese.

Duolingo is the best

Improve your English.

You can't learn Japanese.

>Someone's full of assumptions.
What assumptions? You have no actual work experience here, you're at a mid-tier school in a 文系 program and you'll take a job making peanuts after you graduate. You're an idiot, but I still feel the need to warn you because you're wet behind the ears: Do not work at a Japanese company. Ever. You live in Japan and work at foreign companies whether they be pharmaceutical companies, investment firms, or branch offices for international companies who just happen to have a presence here. Any of these types of companies will not give a shit about the JLPT because you'll either need technical knowledge that isn't tested on it, or will do your work in English if it's a technical field.

>But I guess you STEM monkeys aren't asked for any serious level of Japanese.
Come back to me when you give lectures on technical topics in Japanese.

お前は日本語も英語もできないな
可愛そう。。。

>可愛そう
ヤイクス!

But that typo proves it wasn't a google tl.

how long until I can read this?

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Why would you ever read chuuni VNs?

stop watching faggots on youtube.
just consume a lot of japanese media like podcasts, movies, series, talkshows even animango to some extend (albeit 90% exaggerate speech for artistic/comedic purposes) and you will naturally pick it up. the most important, I repeat, THE MOST IMPORTANT step and the sole key to success is to repeat the spoken sentences, even if that makes you look like a schizophrenic madman.

You're a total MARCH pig. I can sense it coming from you. At best Waseda.

The fuck is up with the complete lack of hiragana? That shit ain't normal.

/jp/ djt is full cancer thanks to a few autists posting all the time
/int/ djt is decent

Just don't learn a language for that reason, it's pathetic.

>chuuni VNs
Who even reads that trash?

Second year middle schoolers supposedly.

Are you brown skinned by any chance?

That's my old student ID. I tried to help you since it's clear you have no work experience here, but you didn't want to listen. Try not to get too mad over being a brainlet.

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Damn imagine being this butthurt that you make up stupid lies just because some chink said he knows Japanese better than you. Lol.

Imagine actually being chink.

Man you sure are delusional, lol.
Real life is gonna fuck you so hard when you get to it.

Look at this insecure faggot, caring about what others might think.

I'm not, that post I replied to is nearly 3 hours old. Just pointing out how retarded user is
>OH MY GOD A CHINK? I MUST ONE UP HIM /pol/ TELLS ME THOSE GUYS ARE BAD
Get a personality outside of this board retard

a.uguu.se/O1JL2aPQRhJi.mp3

Here's your listening test. You should be able to do this very easily with 200 days of anime and no actual study.

>/pol/
How embarrassing.

Jesus, just because you guys were total pariahs that couldn't work in Japanese doesn't mean it'll happen to everyone.

it's either chink shit or manyogana

How many days of actual study with no anime?

Why're you so insecure?

>manyogana
Man yo gana lick deez nuts

Normally I'd feel bad for someone as ignorant and stupid as you are, but you attitude makes it so that I'm just chuckling over how mad you must be right now realizing that I'm smarter and more qualified than you are, and that I make more money than you ever will here. You'll look back on this in 3 years and realize I was right about working in Japan.

I don't know shit about Japan, I don't care, but your mindset is gonna get so broken I would actually pay money to watch your delusions fall apart and reality hitting you full on.

When I first did it I had studied nothing but kana and a few kanji.

It really is for the best that people like you aren't let out often.

So you're a generic "doomer". Whatever. I guess it must suck when your opportunities are taken by brown people or something.

Why do these threads always devolve into "no u" tier bickering?

No you always devolve into bickering.

Just goes to show how passionate they are about Japanese imo.

>studied 200 cards in core2k
>took a break for 2 weeks because 漢字はfucking難しい
>have only read about three pages of Tae Kim
Should I delete and reinstall core2k so I can start it again and put more effort into learning this time round? I don't feel like doing all my reps at the moment and I was being too impatient towards the end and not learning the kanji properly. I want to give it another shot from the start and doing the easy stuff again first can ease me back into it, right?

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>>took a break for 2 weeks
You were never going to make it.

l-boshi.com/130/
I don't know why you'd be proud about trying to make less money, but whatever.

Hey fuck you
It was only going to be a week but then I wanted to wait until after E3 to get back into it

>I don't feel like doing all my reps
How will deleting and starting over from the beginning make learning those words go away?

I'm in engineering and it makes no fucking sense to learn japs, it's like learning north korean lol

imagine this weeb going to japan and finding out people consider him a shit even worse than his country, kys already

Just today I've finished learning Hiragana and Katakana. Just this, nothing else, with no context. Just drawing and remembering the signs in the vacuum.

What should be my next step? That core2k Anki deck? Tae Kim's book? Kanji? (I got some book called Remember the Kanji). I literally have no idea how to proceed now.

I made it to insatsu.
Not gonna make it.

Because money never managed to make me happy. Once I reach a certain level, anything above it becames pointless. And that level is pretty low for me, considering I'm originally froma rather poor country. What I want is stability. Japanese companies can offer than.

Dumbass, it means I'll be learning that shit properly over time rather than trying to cram a bunch of shit that I don't know properly in my head in one day

Don't lash out in anger to other over your own weakness. You lack discipline!

Ni no Kuni was pretty good.

ギブアップ

>apparently it takes people 1 to 7 days to learn both hiragana and katakana
>it took me 7 days to learn just hiragana

i guess i should just give up? or continue even if it takes years if I am diligent and doing something every day?

Yeah, you don't even know how to study. You can't learn Japanese.

A bit of everything, it's all important and complements eachother. Once you have a bit of groundwork vocab and basic grammar you should start doing actual reading too, a least really basic stuff.

You don't need to get the book, just go to Tae Kim's website and go through the basic and essential grammar guides. Doing something for Kanji would be a good idea too, either RTK or an Anki core deck (I did VNcore 1250 but 2k is fine too).

You never take breaks from anki reps. Not even a day.

Don't feel like it? Do your reps.
Sick? Do your reps.
Busy day? Do your reps.
Parents died? Do your fucking reps.

1. 2
2. 1
3. 3
Got bored after this, too easy

You're the one who doesn't know how to study, dipshit. There's a reason you're supposed to do 25 new cards a day and not 225 on the first day.

You can't learn Japanese.

Don't try.

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Thanks guys. I am just trying to create a routine. I guess some Kanji from that book I have, and some Anki every day, while Tae Kim in spare time?

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im ok with never being able to learn japanese. it will remain mysterious and out of this world to me forever

I am in a similar situation. I am learning, just very slowly. Seeing people on the internet, and in this thread, saying they learned the basics super fast is very demotivating. It took me almost 2 weeks just for Hiragana. I know I am in no rush, but I feel so slow and pathetic compared to everyone here.

Sounds good. Personally I've found Tae Kim much more helpful than Anki, I struggle to remember Kanji if I don't see it in sentences, but it's all about what works for you and keeping at it.

>almost 2 weeks just for Hiragana

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>What I want is stability. Japanese companies can offer than.
Oh you poor, poor child.

Uhh dude that should take like an afternoon.

Whatever you do, don't do core6k if you actually want to learn words in a useful order. The order is good only if you want to read about economics and politics in japanese newspapers. Core2k is somewhat acceptable since most of the words in the first 2k are relevant, though you'll still get taught words like 国会 (national diet) before 赤 (red).

>wanting to work in fucking Japan of all places
Just stick to the video games

It's only natural to compare yourself to others but if you enjoy learning jp just keep at it. A lot of weebs pick up jp and drop in within a few months. Keep at it and you'll better than all of them eventually.

Don't worry about it, there's no race. I'm a month in and still mix some of them up sometimes, just keep at it and it'll start to stick.

This, Japan is no magical wonderland. There's nothing wrong with learning a skill to use for your own entertainment and not to get job or something. Don't fall for the 'everything you do needs to earn you money'jew.

Thank you user, arigato or something

>This, Japan is no magical wonderland
Don't listen to this user. I learned Japanese and moved there and now I can shoot lasers out my eyes and fly.

It's been 2 years since I learned kana, and katakana text is still annoying to read.

Once again, just because you were fired and replaced by a new generic STEM graduate doesn't mean I will.

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People give up because they burn out. A person who takes a month to learn kana, but does something every day, will see more success than someone grinding shit 12 hours a day for 6 months in the long run.

Routine > grind.

anime > studying

ive been learning two years at my own pace. my pace is very sporadic like i'll be studying for 3 months and then a long ass break. people recommend anki but that is like the beginner's trap because if you rush that shit you'll burn out easy and guess what majority of us want to rush learning asap. it's stupidly difficult if you don't put the effort to read material as soon as you can because your brain naturally dumps the worthless information you're not using.

>Grammar is just something you look up when you encounter it in a sentence.
Makes me feel better, I thought I was the only retard that did this.

>tfw learning English was a cinch
>after years of being exposed to JP media, I can finally pick up words and sentences
>yet hiragana/katakana/kanji is making me physically uncomfortable and deeply afraid, despite having cyrillic alphabet as my native one
What the fuck do I do bros? Do I finally bite the bullet? Or should I spend my free time studying 3d modeling instead? I'm facing a very difficult choice of either animating 3d porn for monopoly money or toiling away as VN fan translator for literal peanuts in the future.

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VNs/LNs > anime

Agreed, already at the tail of N2 and still motivated.
Increments>cramming

It's similar to a diet
Now you know why american have such a hard time!

Don't do either of those if you want to earn money. Learning Japanese is something you do for yourself, not because it's a money earning skill.

I know you're an angry third worlder, but just how stupid and arrogant can you be? You already made a bunch of a assumptions about which school I went to, and now you're making assumptions about work. I tried giving you actual advice since I know what I'm talking about, but for whatever reason you're doubling down and being stubborn despite having literally no marketable skills or work experience in Japan. Really, why are you so stupid?

Study interpretation or law/tech-related translation and make mad dosh with Japanese and Russian retard.

Yeah I almost burned out at the start because I started like 4 different Anki decks. Now that I've trimmed it down to only one and am focussing more on grammar and even attempting to translate a doujin I'm having a lot more fun.

I don't want to earn money, I've already got a stable job, so it's more like exploring prospects of future side income.
But in all honesty it's probably because I respect the amount of work some people put into making animated porn and translating noname eroge, so I want to help out all those poor lads in the future.
I want to deliver happy boners to people, be it through watching or reading smut.

>start learning hiragana
>learn HA and A
>notice that literally every doujin has Ha..aa... in them

what in the fuck?

>attempting to translate a doujin
I wonder how many releases are pre-N5's just running text through google and trying to work out the meaning. I know I worked on a couple of things back when I was starting out, looking at them now it's just laughable.

Just watch a jdrama with jap subs. It's the easiest one. Modern ones have casual dialogue that you actually hear in japan.

a lot. people do admit the poor translation work because no one else would translate for them. and its not just limited to smut.

duolingo is SJW garbage made by a south american monkey and it doesn't teach you grammar

>and its not just limited to smut.
CHEW

Subscribe to ANN
youtube.com/channel/UCGCZAYq5Xxojl_tSXcVJhiQ

NHK with furigana
www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

These should help.

I'm not sure I'll ever actually release it, though I might ask people to proof-read and correct it. I'd prefer someone that knows what they're doing to get the credit, I'm just doing this to learn and because I love the artist's work.

>7 hours ago
>2 girls struck by a car in front of a kindergarten.

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>because no one else would translate for them. and its not just limited to smut.
My favorite is when ESLs rush out speed scans because "I just wanted to help!" when in reality they just felt like attention whoring, and then other ESLs claim that broken English translations are closer to the actual Japanese.

is has furigana

>new video every 3 minutes
What if I actually use my youtube subscription feed?

That's nothing. There was a huge stabbing the other week.
And I happened to go by that station that same day after it happened.

Are all international students at toudai this autistic?

>I wonder how many releases are pre-N5's just running text through google and trying to work out the meaning
Like 90%

>tfw downloading DQ11 right now and gonna play it in Japanese
being at the intermediate plateau has its ups and downs but at least I can play what I want without looking up every single word

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Yes. Knew a guy who went there.

Yikes, i rather fap to untranslated games than learn chinkshit which sounds ugly

>What if I actually use my youtube subscription feed?
You don't need that. You. You are committed to learning. Right?

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>This reply chain
Jesus Christ fellas

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There's no need to be so upset. It's really just unsightly.

There was also some old woman driving who hit a row of kindergarden kids who were out on a walk

How long have you been studying?

I saw that, there was a like 20 minute section on it on japanese TV at like 4AM their time that I watched. She then wrote a letter of apology to the parents or whatever right?

I don't know what to tell you. Just because you failed doesn't mean others will as well. That's all there is to it.

Yeah, it's pretty depressing. But at least they post stupid shit like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=eBfbVylhG8g

>Just because you failed
At going to a better school than you, actually graduating, and then getting a high paying job at a company that isn't run as inefficiently as possible while still getting to live in Tokyo? Again, why do you think working at a Japanese company is a good thing? Is this what your professors are telling you, or is this how you try to rationalize having no practical skills?

in a month i'll be at my 2 year anniversary
shit sucks at first but once you get to the point that you've read 1-2 VNs/games/shows it starts to become a lot more fun since your path becomes open for you to use essentially whatever you want to study, as long as it's in japanese
if you need any other advice i'd be glad to help anyone here

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There was an article on NHK easy about some Africans who took a picture with a gorilla a few months ago. Before that probably half a year ago at this point there was a story about two gaijin tourists getting attacked by monkeys at a temple in kyoto or something.

>playing Nier Tomato again in Japanese cause I played it 2 years ago before I started
>the robots partly speak in katakana
>one of them speaks purely in katakana
Feels good spending 5 minutes on one sentence trying to discern what the fuck he's saying

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Spooky

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Anything you wish you would have known as a beginner? After going through a grammar guide the biggest piece of advice I see being pushed around is 'just read more'. It sounds too good to be true, is that all there is to it? Just read until you become nihongo jesus?

Holy shit. Has the user posting in this thread attended that uni?

yeah that's literally it
i wish i didn't wait so long to start reading, I waited like 7 months into anki/grammar
other than that yes, watch/read more until your eyes are burnt and your brain is fried
i dont recommend playing games to start learning because videogames are like 70% playing and 30% reading/listening

>getting to live in Tokyo

There's your problem. That's what makes your soul so ugly. That and you being an American.

Luckily my course requires practical skills simply because of what it is. You're the one assuming I'm in a Bc. one.

No.

>over the course of 3 years, 1600 students have gone missing.
>Among them, Vietnamese and Nepalese people...
Let me guess, trouble with the traffickers?

I've considered learning recently, but haven't really asked basic questions like these since people are usually flinging shit about learning methods in these threads.

I know that learning is never really a "complete" process, but do you have a grasp on potentially when you'll know enough JP that you're only hung up on words unfamiliar to native speakers? I like to be able to slot a realistic eventual goal, which I've so far thought to be about 3-3.5 years.

Also, would you say that your rate of learning has increased with the availability of content as well?

You poor, incompetent guy. Okay then, have fun being mediocre at Japanese and working 11 hour days for virtually no pay.

>>one of them speaks purely in katakana
I ran into that problem before. It is fucking ass. Are even the particles katakana too? That's the worst.

How long would it take me to be able to read raw doujin knowing hira and kana already

That's really reassuring, it sounded legit but it's hard to take djt seriously.

Faggots from third world countries pay to get into a shitty uni, get into Japan this way and then scram.

you need kanji you fag. i don't know a single doujin that is pure hira/kana

wow I wonder why they'd get a visa in a 1st world country then just disappear hmm

I like knowing you couldn't even pass N2. That's why you're so adamant about it being useless. I guess your 片言 Japanese was enough at an interview, eh? STEM is STEM after all.

Researching pitch accent, why don't the core decks have the number on the cards as well? Is it just a matter of getting them on there without having to do them all manually? Is it just because you're supposed to do them with audio? Hell, why the fuck don't english-Japanese dictionaries even have it? What the fuck. It's like English dictionaries not have the pronounciation by the word.

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shut up subhuman nigger

probably 2 years from where I am, it's not really something to worry about since you'll get there eventually
>Also, would you say that your rate of learning has increased with the availability of content as well?
in terms of me being able to use whatever I want to study? yeah i'd say so. one of the biggest holes people fall into is this notion that you HAVE to play easy VNs as a beginner which isn't true
your first VN is gonna take you long as fuck and is gonna suck, it might as well be something you're interested in
don't go to djt, ever
they argue more about how to learn japanese rather than actually learning japanese
you'll save yourself a ton of time by just avoiding it altogether

>I like knowing you couldn't even pass N2.
I passed the N1 years ago, you idiot. I'm telling you it's useless from experience.

These books are pretty good. But:
>Each tier has over 5 books focusing on kani, grammar, listening comprehension etc
Fucking jews.

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>in a month i'll be at my 2 year anniversary
Ay my nigga, I'm 5 months away from mine
This intermediate level fucking sucks cause you think you should know more than you actually should, so you end up feeling bummed and like you've hit a plateau that you're never gonna leave
At least that's how it feels for me

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>they argue more about how to learn japanese rather than actually learning japanese
can't speak for /jp/ but this is false for /int/ djt

I have heard playing gba games is good for learning japanese because they dont have all that much kanji use or some related reasons

Got a pirate link? I like the idea of pirating an education.

Yup, and that makes it worse cause you're left wondering if that particle is part of the word or it's actually just a particle
Fuck you for doing this Taro

Honestly the main thing that's held me back from starting is that I don't want to start one method and then find out I've been stealthily memed by djt. Are you course-taught or independently taught? If the latter, what was your method of learning?

Alright all you weeb nerdlords, it's time to put your knowledge to the real test. Drakengard threads need your help because we want to know for certain just what was and wasn't censored and we've finally got the Jap audio in easy access. If you would be so kind as to translate these two infamous scenes your help would be very much appreciated.
youtube.com/watch?v=MsrFtzQra9c
1:36:16 is for Leonard's scene.
2:45:35 is for Furiae's scene.

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I know that exact feel user.

independent
did anki for months, read a grammar guide, then used ith+dictionary to read vns
that's it, no need to make it more complicated than it needs to be
obviously practice writing/speaking/listening if you want to as well
i was talking about jp

Afraid not. I bought this from kinokunia and anyone who is familiar with them will tell you that they can be a little expensive. But see it as more of an investment.

is there a more beginner trap than anki?

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lol I can see Sengoku Rance...
ITTAIIIIII ITTAIIIIIIIIII!

Is there a more dumb nigger than you?

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Anki's great as long as you don't load it with kanji you haven't learned in context and just grind away.

>don't go to djt, ever they argue more about how to learn japanese rather than actually learning japanese you'll save yourself a ton of time by just avoiding it altogether

this. The people and the mods there are easily triggered and mentally fragile. Pepes and wojaks are banned. (I wasn't even an offensive one, I use a feels one ) I asked why and I was reported.

>started learning a year ago
>my lazy has has only dome ~1,8k cards from that 2k/6k deck

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Last question, is there any resource that you've used to type/talk back and forth with native Japanese speakers? I've seen mentions of twitter but I'm super hesitant to touch twitter at all, even if JP twitter is different.

libgen.io/search.php?req=nihongo so-matome&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def

This what you guys are looking for?

twitter, hellotalk, discord, line
w/e works

I'm only adding 10 new cards a day to Anki because I want to focus on grammar and reading, is it fine to do this or am I gimping myself by reducing the number?

Are you talking about /jp/ DJT? Don't go there it is terrible. /int/ djt or even the Japanese discussion thread is good. Hell even 4*2 djt is better

/jp/ . I haven't been to the /int/ one

I recommend pokemon games

>Furiae's
I just watched this one, it's basically correct. Furiae doesn't give a shit about anything besides her brother, and when he rejected her by averting his eyes she chose death as she had nothing else to live for in the world she deemed as worthless.

Learn the kanji radicals. I assume you know kana. You really have no reason to be able to pronounce most of the kanji if you don’t plan on interacting with people.

If you want to be able to type out kanjis but don’t know how to pronounce them just use the chinese kanji drawing thing and romaji for the kana.

It doesn't have the kanji book. Damn.

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After 4 years of intermittent study I've finally started using Anki for the core 6k, it's actually pretty good. Trying to watch anime and read stuff on the side, and at some point I'm going to do a tandem again. Honestly the Switch is pretty cool too, very easy to switch games to Japanese.
I'm gonna make it, even if it takes 20 years.

Pokemon, only uses hiragana and katakana with very common kanji for day, month, year, yen etc.

There is a whole only kanji book separate from the vocabulary book? They are fucking jews.

How do you get Switch games to play in runes? I'm curious could be useful for me too

>delete and reinstall core2k

you can reset your progress in the desktop anki app without deleting the entire deck

>戦う
What's that kanji? I know tatakau is attack btw

魑魅魍魎
一切衆生悉有仏性草木国土悉皆成仏
御御御付け

Anyone who actually knows Japanese has no trouble with that

So would it be fair to say that it wasn't really censored and that more context was found in the short stories that came out later which gave more information and context?

sen

If you get from the English translations that she wanted him to fuck her, then I think it got translated correctly. Because from the Japanese that's literally what's implied in the most direct way indirect Japanese can be.

If it was censored the UNDUB would only have the not cut scenes in Japanese. Also there are a lot of screens of just text in English between each cutscene.

>御御

another's wife or daughter

Not him, but even in English version of DoD there were some scenes where the party really, really unsubtly implied that Furiae wants to fuck Caim.

Psst, wanna know the secret to learning japanese?

It's comprehensible input
youtube.com/watch?v=fnUc_W3xE1w

So ditch genki, grammar is useless

Many thanks friends. Did any of you check out the other scene though? Interested to know if it directly mentions Leonard either having a wank or being a pedo.

Anki is great but if that's the only thing you do you'll never be going anywhere

>why is 此処 in kanji, but a word like きみ in kana
Reminds me of this game I played, they'd use kanji for some weird things like pretty much any れ in the game was replaced by 礼 so you'd get stuff like 来てく礼る. I'm sure if I knew Jap history or something I'd probably be aware this is some form used in the who knows century or whatnot, but as a foreigner reading Japanese today it felt really funny.

Do you get tripped up on differences between how some kanji are used in Chinese vs Japanese? I'm sure most have the same or similar meaning, but there has to be some exceptions in how some are used.

Nope. Again, you've got to find the original version if you actually want to compare differences, it's very easy to just cut out lines.

I'm not saying that happened here, though.

Ah

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I wonder if this exact post was made a year and a half ago.

I remember browsing djt in Yea Forums literally 10 years ago and that post was being made.

オレはゲイだ

>オレ
何

I can kindof see it if you watch with Japanese subtitles and look up everything.

自分はカニが大好きなんだぜ!

If you want to learn how to write, then start writing a diary in Japanese and write Japanese diary entries everyday, using all of the hiragana, katakana and kanji you know.
If you don't want to learn how to write, you can just type this up on your phone or computer. But user. Games alone aren't going to teach you a language. You need to constantly expose yourself to and use that language.

Use kono ore-sama next time

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>その豪槍をまともに受けて、思わずムネチカは声を漏らす
l-lewd

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Can any Anons give any similar advise for learning spanish?

get a mexican gf

>Not learning Arabic and fapping to the quran.

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How

What is it?

Serious post: language knowledge is not binary. It's not like you either know any given language or not. Language is a complex thing that has many uses. So if you are aiming only to read news on Japanese gaming websites, you probably won't even need any writing skills. Sure, these are nice to have but they are in no way mandatory.

>not fapping to pretty Al-Quran letters themselves

I was bored, so I looked into it. You aren't supposed to find out he's a pedo until much later in the game, that's the whole point of the character. Why would they give it away in the opening scene?

What is she saying?

That just means you'll take longer to get there, but keep at it and you'll make it eventually.

You'll never make it.

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I can't remember the last time I had to hand-write something in my native language, let alone any other. In fact, I'm not even sure why that guy suddenly started talking about writing out of literally nowhere.

based and redpilled, Chinese actually has some future

Two weeks for hiragana seems kinda normal though. I think the whole kanas stuff in my university Japanese class took something like a month and a half.

>first based and redpilled post in the thread
what the fuck

I will now post 90% of this thread.

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I spent 2 years in Japan and ハラキリ was the only word I knew. I got around fine.

A true detective.

Well at least it sounds like he made it eventually. That's a good image for encouraging people to read.

I think that guy was referring to writing in general, but eh. Writing can be really helpful, but different people have different learning patterns, and I really don't think you absolutely have to write kanji to boost your kanji recognition skills, for example (especially if you're going to use your knowledge to read some glorified toy commercials or something like that).

Is there an app or a time killer thing to learn between freetimes? お願いします

Do you guys watch any Japanese streamers?
Preferably cute girls.

3 alphabets seems more like a pro than a con to me; that is like syntax highlighting in a text editor, and kanas are easy to learn.

Try Kanji Tree for kanji recognition and writing.

Nope, vtubers are a meme gimmick fad that is already over just like VR.

you don't understand anything about jap lol

Anki, I also use Kanji Study sometimes.

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They don't use alphabets.

unifag here, i'm going to take a Japanese course in 2 months next semester. what should I learn about the language before hand, any book recommendations?

The path of my dick. Seriously.

ching chong ping pong bukkake seppuku nintendo

Who cares about vtubers. I meant real people with real actual conversations.

Read some eroge

I found a japanese girl gamer. She has a cute voice and is pretty good at FPS. She played r6s with 4 other girls and they were just giggling and having a blast for hours. Why can't western women just enjoy video games? They're really fun.

I know, but the poster I've replied to used the word alphabets so I went with it.

>i'm going to take a Japanese course in 2 months
Absolutely useless. Read the DJT guide or give up.

based effortpost. you nailed it

ok I'l read that guide. I'm not taking the course because I expect it will teach me much about the language, I'm just required to take two language credits and decided Japanese to be it. since I'm taking the course I decided I might as well try my best at it

Eventually I went to a college. I wasn't interested only in video games though; I always liked Japanese as a language, how it sounds etc.

So there somehow turned out to be a college where you could major in Culturology (with a really good Japanese course) for a really small price in my city; actually, attending it in mid-20s was kinda fun. What I've also learned is that I really don't want to do business or involve myself with Japanese people, though.

that pic is none of that it's obviously a kani

おなまえなんですか

Their taste in games is pretty normaltier. Pubg mostly.
youtube.com/channel/UCZIXF1DthjqZLH8JwrV1Kkg/videos