Maybe it's because I haven't played a Pokemon game since B&W, but I don't see why not having literally every single Pokemon to date is such a big deal
Jonathan Martin
Procreate
Tyler Reyes
They probably will down the road, you impatient autists. God forbid they don't have all the shitty filler pokes cluttering up the dex at launch.
Christian Evans
It removes the only excuse GF had for not making detailed battle animations.
Noah Adams
>Gamers Rise Up unironically Go play another game while dilating
Matthew Davis
im happy they are removing a lot of the shitty mons. There were just too many of the trashmons that nobody used.
Cooper Anderson
What?
Andrew Davis
It's just a sign of laziness, you can see the decline from XY, to sun and moon, to the ultra versions, let's go, and now this. This is just the straw that broke everyone's back. If they're going to get away with this now it'll only keep getting worse. But I haven't played since XY.
Landon Watson
There's alredy a petition with far more signatures
Dominic Collins
fuck off back to /vp/ with this shit
Cooper Foster
fuck off to
Jace Robinson
>gamers rise up >sign some meaningless hit >OUR franchise This is why gaming is a mental disorder. Literally worse than being a tranny, which ISN'T a mental disorder anymore.
Kayden Gomez
We also need the help of fellow trainers on Yea Forums.
Luke Rivera
>It's just a sign of laziness Do you think it's easy to balance all those Pokemon and moves?
Joshua Evans
Name a more sad, cringe fanbase than pokefags.
Cameron Cooper
stop playing pokeshit and kill yourself
Ayden Ramirez
When you have a template of balancing from over 20 years of work in a company that prioritizes this one franchise, yes yes it is.
Lincoln Peterson
they've never given a single shit about balance before, nobody expected balance from them, that's for the community to enforce through banlists
Cameron Turner
imagine being a clownager like OP. Holy shit.
Parker Brooks
>hehe can't discuss gaems in a vidya board XD fuck off muh board le epic BTFO XD haahah
Jason Clark
YUGIOHCHADS RISE UP
Carter Jenkins
Do you think gamefreak actually gives a shit about balancing?
Luke Miller
Will Pokegate save western civilisation?
Henry Ross
Sperg where you belong you goddamn autist
Cooper Campbell
Should have been #DownWithDexit
Camden Robinson
If anything, it will show that people united can defy the kikes, so yeah, I'll say it will help.
Nicholas Walker
Too many garbage generations of pokemon, they know this. Poor Zoomers
Kayden Brown
Do these petitions ever actually accomplish anything?
Julian Gomez
stop banning elephant imports from pokeafrica
Nathaniel James
Yes this is ridiculous. I need mankey in every pokemon game. Fuck nintendo and fuck game freak for denying me this.
just checking how many people actually think this is a big deal
I really dont know why some of you care so much about this. You can still keep your collection on Home, all this will do is make for better gameplay and better balance hopefully. It will be nice to actually catch everything acessible in the game as well without relying on shady deals with hackers.
Zachary Rogers
who the fuck still plays pokemon
Christopher Cook
>grown ass people (and trannies which are not people) caring this much about pokemon move on with your life already
No one expects all 900 to be balanced. Some pokemon are just dommed to suck and that's perfectly ok. This seems more like an unwillingness or inability to model and animate all of them.
Chase Hughes
The director of Digimon Survive said in a recent interview the only reason they brought Cyber Sleuth outside of Japan was because of the massive amount of signatures asking for more Digimon stuff localized. So yeah...unless the people they are being sent to are brain dead themselves, which is entirely possible from what we have seen from game freak.
Mason Morgan
It's the LITERAL highest-grossing entertainment franchise on the planet. It makes Star Wars look like a cumrag Who the fuck ISNT playing Pokemon is a more legitimate question you fucking edgy faggot
Ayden Martin
Culling the bloated national dex is a good thing though
Samuel Collins
Triple Battles and Rotation Battles being removed without warning meant that absolutely nothing is sacred and everything is subject to removal at any time. Of course double niggers refused to listen, but now they are paying the price for their hubris. Get fucked complacent traitors, I sincerely hope your favorite pokemon get removed and retconned forever. ORAS is the last canon pokemon game.
Ian Gray
>yes goy, pay for incomplete games while you also pay the Home so you can prevent your bros from being dusted totally_not_a_shill.exe
Easton Foster
make that judgement when the game comes out. I honestly hope to see stats revamped across the board to justify this.
Alexander Morales
It will sell just like Let's Go and you can do nothing about it.
I wouldn't mind them removing some and saying that was for balance, but they aren't doing it for that reason and are just being lazy pieces of shit. The game is just lazy as all hell like their new "Pokemon, but big" shit This won't stop hackers at all, they are not trying to balance all looking atthe ones they are bring back so far serebii.net/swordshield/galarpokedex.shtml They are just being lazy as fuck like they normally are.
Camden Clark
>Pokemon has always been known for a plethora of Pokemon >Decide not to add them all in an anticipated upcoming game in favor of a stupid battle gimmick and as an excuse to not animate nor model all of the Pokemon >claim that this game is a mainline Pokemon game when in reality it's just going to be a reskin of the Let's Go games TPCi should just be completely bought by Nintendo at this point so they can keep them in check with bullshit like this
I don't play it but everyone I know does, even the people who aren't into gaming.
Jason Rogers
>Who the fuck ISNT playing Pokemon people with standards
Robert Morales
We're talking about the largest and most profitable multimedia franchise in the entirety of human history. There is 0 valid excuse for cutting corners or taking the easy way out. If something is too difficult or time consuming you find a way, be it out sourcing or innovating or whatever.
Jaxson Hernandez
The problem with THESE signatures is that most of them are going to buy the game regardless. Making a petition to bring games over to the US indicates willingness to buy something that might never exist to begin with.
Noah Johnson
Jap twitter is burning them. That's the only one they'll listen to since pokemon fucking up in it's homeland would be an unimaginable disgrace.
Aiden Nelson
they already have all the models from XY.
Dominic Ortiz
the pokemon won't be modeled or included at all in the game you won't be able to hack them in either
Carter Morris
Masuda is going to dab all over the Pokémon fanbase by culling mons due to a philosophy change.
>balance 900 mons >when half of them are worthless preevos anyway And even then gf has shown that they don't give a shit about balancing.
Jeremiah Jenkins
Fuck off, i don't want this crap full of hacked mons. Also it's a kids game you dumb faggot.
Nicholas Miller
Shitty animation, shitty art, the pokemon cut
Connor Gray
They want to be angry at the series and this new thing has some negatives. 100% of the people complaining will buy the game even if no changes are made.
Nathaniel Allen
any chance to say new game bad old game good Yea Forums will take it
Sebastian Powell
Pokemon not able to be caught in this game locally can't be imported from past games/Poke Bank.
Sebastian Smith
It is highest grossing because they don't need to put in tons of resource to make them unlike with AAA games
Isaiah James
Can't do much when the issue is hardware limitations
Leo Murphy
oh yeah, the horror, what would I do without my ledian in the game, boo hoo. now i can't rely on smogon to beat ingame challenge
Matthew Taylor
Yes, but you said that people won't need hackers for stuff, but anything that will be in the game will be hacked. It kinda makes your point meaningless when people are going to hack no matter what.
Caleb Nguyen
>tfw I'm one of the rare people who tolerate gen 7 more than gen 6 here
Both suck ass but holy shit I'd rather deal with unskippable cutscene garbage than gen 6's maximum easy.
Justin Mitchell
>things that no one liked or used are being removed and nothing of value was lost.
>bros yeah im sure your 1200 pokemon are all your bros >pay for home to prevent loss Why not keep them on sun and moon and transfer when you can? You wont have to pay for home until you can actually transfer them after all >totally_not_a_shill.exe Depends on if being a shill means defending reasonable things. I havent bought a pokemon game since Pearl, and this news actually makes me WANT to play pokemon again.
Cameron Davis
nooo not my bruxish
Ayden Peterson
So where's your proof that all the tweets are complaining?
Eli Green
Fuck people that play videogames. Have sex. Gamefreak knows their customers better than any of you.
Caleb Butler
HAHAHAHAHA look at all these pokefags sperging Go back to your shithole /vp/
Blake Young
>I don't understand why not getting all of what I bought is a big deal I'm only using 40% of it you can have 60% of my money for free
awwhhh someone's a smartie on the internet, yes you are yes you are
that's not how a RoI works you fucking imbecile hahahahaaahah
Xavier Rodriguez
This is all I have to say
There’s no need to be a dick to people that are dissapointed/upset by Gamefreak not making every Pokémon available There is also no need to condemn people that don’t care about not being able to have all the Pokémon in a new region.
Liam Martinez
replace ledian with pokemon you like and suddenly le angry face!
The game will have them all. The problem is, they're too lazy to even bother putting them all in the dex.
Yeah, that's what happened with SMUSUM, for sure. Stupid fuck.
Rotation was the shit, I loved it. At least ORAS was a good note to end the franchise on.
Brody Lewis
>not getting all of what you paid for You aren't paying for the pokemon when you buy a pokemon video game based retard.
Julian Garcia
POKEMON FAGS BTFO LOL
Charles Perez
aw shitsnacks, my trubbish no!
Brandon Wilson
Good. There are way too many fucking Pokemon already.
Eli Taylor
Because fighting game characters (except special game modes in Smash or soulCal, for example) don't have any growth. No stats. Nothing to import or export.
Isaac Gutierrez
I liked it just to spite you, faggot
Cameron Reed
It's just autists sperging out over something that should've happened a long time ago. GF can't model, balance, and animate thousands of playable monsters each new game entry and it is entirely their own fault it has gotten to this point. It's no wonder they focus so much development time on remakes so they could keep delaying the inevitable.
GF's incompetence aside, they should've made each game focus on the new Pokemon, with a select few old Pokemon sprinkled in. Then simply rotate which old Pokemon are available for the next game. Keeps the games fresh, focused, and removes bloat.
Jason Fisher
Why complain now when you've been eating shit for 7 generations straight?
Nicholas Wilson
>You wont have to pay for home until you can actually transfer them after all You can't from now on. There won't be a game with all the pokemon in it. That's their new philosophy.
Jeremiah Jones
Gee I wonder if this move that culls the pokemon count down is an attempt to make balance in pokemon not a huge joke :^)
Lincoln Lopez
>you arent paying for pokemon when you buy pokemon based retard
>mad because he can't transfer the Magikarp he got conned into buying 14 years ago I'm sorry for your loss
Isaac Young
No. Fuck you. Let the region feel like a new region. The mainline games doesn't need to cater to competitive autism.
Oliver Howard
they heavily implied that the game wont have them all.
Ryder Miller
>So yeah...unless the people they are being sent to are brain dead themselves, which is entirely possible from what we have seen from game freak.
The morons who make these games keep making them because morons keep buying them, and those morons keep buying them because the first morons keep making them. It's like the Circle of Stupid.
Andrew Green
>it's a Yea Forums thinks they understand game development for a multi-million dollar franchise episode >again
Jason Allen
>21 million tweets means it is all complaints
Julian Perez
I'll bet you good money that the "balance" will be the same as always. There will only be a handful of competitively viable pokemon.
Logan Brown
Just remove all of this ugly shit.
>GF can't model, balance, and animate thousands of playable monsters Good thing they don't have to, since they're using the same models and animations from X/Y, nearly a decade ago. The issue is that they're now so lazy that they can't even bother to copy and paste dex entries for old mons.
>Then simply rotate which old Pokemon are available for the next game. Keeps the games fresh, focused, and removes bloat. I would agree with this, if that was what they are doing. Have you seen the confirmed Pokemon yet?
Adam Martin
Not even roster fags are this entitled Every new entry in a fighting game cycles out characters that people main
Connor Jenkins
they really portraying pokeuk as realistic as possible >oy m8 yer got a loicence for dat pokeman
Michael Johnson
what those scribble means anywais?
Evan Stewart
I'm okay with less pokebros. I just wish we got something in return for it. More animations or something. Give them a little more life.
Matthew Adams
Try quoting me accurately and maybe your brain will start functioning brother.
When I buy persona, I am not buying all the demons in the game from now until forever. I am buying the experience of playing the video game. I hold no expectations that I will keep my level 99 Junpei when I move on to Persona 4.
Parker Anderson
>Fuck you. Let the region feel like a new region Or, retard, just lock the full pokedex until you've completed the game. Several games have done that in the past.
Leo Cox
Absolute shit taste. Gen 5 had the best bugs.
Gavin Morales
It's not even like the games won't be competitive. The metagame will actually be refreshing if some of the most overused Pokemon are nuked.
Josiah Nelson
thank you for the concern, zoomer, im sure all the arabian factory produced youtube videos you watched growing up and your fortnite will still be around longer than pokemon will
I agree. Thank god they said that they'll prevent having to much workload by reusing the models and animations from X/Y onwards, which was the main reason why they had such a high poly count and let the game run like shit.
Dylan Lopez
This isn't fucking Smash Bros.
Jose Flores
If so, that's even worse, since we can be certain they're going to just copy and paste the old models over, just like with LGPU.
Bentley Myers
This right here. If you're going to limit your scope after setting a precedent of "catch them ALL" for the past 25 years, maybe you ought to actually compensate that loss in some meaningful way. The battles animations we've seen look lifeless as fuck.
Nathan Lewis
How old are you?
Jason Mitchell
It’s japan’s equivalent of #BringBackNationalDex I think its “Compatibility Cuts”
Justin Price
>Trubbish and Mudsdale are in LOL
Grayson Scott
lol Pokemon has never been balanced, and then the illusion of balance completely shattered when the Gen 3 remakes came out.
Thanks, Primal Groudon and Mega Rayquaza.
Aaron Rodriguez
yeah got it, you're an idiot though removing ANY of the staple of a game hinders and ruins it, removing some persons makes it worse, removing some pokemon makes pokemon worse
Owen Rodriguez
The game should start at the defeat of the elite 4 shit, not end because you suddenly have to grind out 800 more pokemon and collect your free legendaries and starters from hackers online.
Ethan Lewis
>using hashtags on Yea Forums Go fucking die, Tranny.
Angel Ross
>no fucking blastoise They will add the old starters, right?
Jordan Hughes
no........... not him............. it cannot be.........
>half the appeal of Pokémon is to take your favorites on new adventures >your favorite could potentially be culled due to 'programming difficulties please understand' >WHY ARE PEOPLE UPSET
Yeah, they're using the hashtag "compatibility cut" because they're thrilled about it.
Jordan Rogers
They already have models and animations for every single past Pokémon.
You don't just remove them because you want to make new ones?? Why don't they just put in all the old models ... and update the games with newer models and animations later?
I don't care if they pull a Sun and Moon and just take a while to let us transfer old Pokémon - but are they seriously just going to let 17 years worth of shinies and competitive teams die out despite, I repeat, having all the models already done
Hunter Hernandez
gen 5 had very balance typing and a big plus for the bug types, first time i even carry 2 of them to the E4 >gamefreak putting gen 5 based, crybabies don't know how good gen 5 is
Benjamin Wood
I just want torchic and I will be happy.
Elijah Lopez
Dude, when they tell you 2 weeks ago about Pokemon Home and the entire selling point of keeping your pokemon with you, only to go 180 on Sword and Shield, of fucking course people are going to be pissed
David Walker
Yes, because the game isn't designed for the competitive scene at all
Hudson Reyes
Fuck you nigga I went out of my way to raise a Probopass and named him Mario so he could team up with my Torterra named Bowser
Jordan Myers
I'm not a tranny, unfortunately for you, pedo.
Lucas Taylor
>>half the appeal of Pokémon is to take your favorites on new adventures what? transfers are locked until post-game.
Daniel Cruz
Fuck off with this shit already
It's "Got to catch them all"
Not '"got to transfer them all over from my old gamesave!"
Youre still catching all the pokemon in the game, nothing has changed.
They're making a whole new thing for storing your old Pokémon on, Pokémon home..
Adrian Sanchez
Thats not how it works though. Most pokemon in pokemon you will absolutely never touch or care about, there are simply too many. You probably only use 30 pokemon tops on a single playthrough, you dont NEED 900+, and it doesnt effect your ability to enjoy the game.
If I'm on vacation in spain, and 500 people from barcelona kill themselves while I'm there, it will not effect my stay in barcelona, because it's like pissing into the ocean.
Tyler Mitchell
Wrong person?
Ryan Long
I don’t want the decline to stop. It’s too late at this point. I hope the series finally dies out so I can play HGSS or some other good Pokemon game without feeling like I’m missing out on new Pokemon.
Sebastian Bennett
>*NEW* CATCHING POKEMON ISN'T IMPORTANT IN THE "GOTTA CATCH EM ALL" SERIES Is there ANYTHING pokedrones won't defend?
Keep playing SuMo and X&Y for the rest of your life then
Ayden Murphy
Guess what? it doesn't mean they are all complaining about it.
Carter Clark
But trubbish in tho
Jason Wright
>The game will have them all How are people still this uninformed? They're not putting them in the game, period. No models, no stats, nothing.
Wyatt Gomez
Then they should probably stop with the fucking world championships then
Lucas Green
Half the appeal of pokemon is taking a new unknown partner, and becoming good friends with it as you conquer a new adventure.
Julian Butler
I been with this series since it hit our shores in the US. I'm kinda over the large pokedex and I wouldn't mind a more intimate (No not that way you furfags) experience with the mons. the amiee (sp?) thing was kinda okay. I want the world to be more lived in. That's, I have bros of every gen (except 7, SuMo was meh to play so I never got to finish.), and I don't mind playing with new ones.
The other issue is that the game looks and feels like a ported 3DS game. And you saw how GF fucked up using the tech to full potential. >bunch of 3DS games run at 60 >GF can't even get a steady 30
Xavier Morris
Forgive me. After gen 7, I stopped even bothering to keep up with Pokemon news.
Tyler Anderson
Hey so is this people trying to censor and control Nintendo?
Alexander Rodriguez
Imagine waiting this long to speak up about the direction of pokemon Gen V sales cemented the future of the series. Please understand.
Brayden Carter
I really do agree, I hate how everyone just dumps hundreds of pokemon sourced from some asshole using cheatengine like that's a source of satisfaction for the new game. Fucking baffling, why can't the focus go on finding and catching the pokemon you want to use in the new game?
Nigger, the fuck are you talking about? It's never presenting the fun of a pokemon game being bringing old pokemon on new adventures, that's why they straight up give you new starters every single time. The appeal of pokemon is a new region and new pokemon to catch and raise.
Leo Perez
>removes bloat. this is what i didn't like in HH SS, i mean it's cool they added so much pokemon but at the end they all feel the same basically, i'm enjoying playing black now, it feels so fresh.
'Gotta catch them all' wasn't even a slogan in the Japanese side.
Grayson Gray
Fuck the national Dex now you only need two games to 100% them
Carter Turner
There's a difference between the competitions Nintendo does and the ones the community does
Justin Morgan
They did this in Gen 3, who fucking cares. Oh wait you’re zoomers.
Xavier Kelly
THEN DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT IT RETARD
Christian Kelly
Don't tell me what to do, fatso.
Isaac Lopez
hoes mad
Matthew Morris
>incels mad that their childrens game characters from a decade ago aren't in the new video game for children
please for the love of god just have sex
Andrew Wright
right? you are in a new region, the point is to catch the new ones and get to know them well before going catching the previous ones, this is why i love gen 5. you had to figure out how to get good with the pokemon available instead of relying on your smogon approved pals
Jose Kelly
Ya know, all these comments are starting to win me over
I love cut content now
I hope they can remove even more before release
Samuel Green
I kept some of the same god damn Pokemon for years with me through every game. the ones I use just happen to be in, but it would suck if you the Pokemon the single one you have used for fucking years just isn't in this time. You could still transfer from gen 3 you retard, but only 6 at a time every 34 hours.
Hunter Gray
>They did this in Gen 3, who fucking cares They still had the Pokemon in the game. You can catch them all.
Christian Moore
The jap slogan is "Get Pokemon!", but they will have to update it to "Get some Pokemon and fight some others you can't get".
Kayden Johnson
I see what you're saying but for a lot of people that experience of bringing your favorite mon into each new game is pretty neat. It's not like people are forcing you to import pokemon anyways if you want to start fresh.
Ideally, you'd be forced to use only the local dex caught in-game until you beat the elite 4 and then the ability to import unlocks and optional routes with international pokemon open up.
Anthony Young
they only did it then because of technical limitations, and included every pokemon in the code anyways. Sword and shield will ONLY have pokemon from its dex, the rest of the pokemon wont even be in the game.
Luke Brooks
Why do people keep pretending like pokemon not in Sword and Shield are gone forever? Are you people seriously this stupid?
Brandon Stewart
>Good thing they don't have to, since they're using the same models and animations from X/Y, nearly a decade ago. And they look like shit. It's pathetic when the old Stadium games have better move animations then what has been shown so far. If GF focused on quality>quantity and actually cared about their product, we might get something worth playing.
Dylan Diaz
>Nintendo: willing to delay games to make them the best they can >Gamefreak: yeah lol we're leaving that out due to development time constraints, gotta get this game out for the Holidays
Chase Phillips
Charizard is in and GF will never let a KANTOOOO Pokemon not be usable.
Gavin Hall
>People complaining about Pokemon being the same old rehashed shit over and over >People begging to have the EXACT SAME SHIT from the previous generation. lel
Austin Barnes
Short answer: Yes Autism is a powerful thing.
Tyler Turner
They do not have object permanence yet, be patient.
Isaac Barnes
model =/= animation
Austin Thomas
You're still not fucking catching them all, though. You're literally catching local monsters and saying "naw, fuck it that's good enough" to the hundreds of other Pokemon. This is shitting all over their fucking core motto, and it's a fucking disgrace when they have already taken steps in the past to ensure that previous Pokemon could continue to be used in future games. And I'm not talking about transferring your old ones, I'm talking about literally not having the information for the Pokemon in the fucking game.
Ethan Nelson
>Why are Pokemon fans okay with Game Freak being incompetent? They should let their voices be heard. >Game Freak actively removes content from the game for the sole reason of cutting their already dull corners >WHY IS EVERYONE COMPLAINING? HAVE SEX, WHO CARES, THIS ALREADY HAPPENED, STOP YELLING AT GAME FREAK, CUT CONTENT IS GOOD WHEN GAME FREAK DOES IT You faggots will be the death of me.
There's no need to even change 'get pokemon' to that you autist.
Alexander Brooks
>now it's both a rehash AND has less content. Amazing, what an improvement.
Aaron Cruz
>they aren't gone forever >they just won't be available to even trade over, depending on the game What if I like, say, Flygon, and I also like Salamence, and they just aren't in the same game? I can't even trade to get both on one team.
Colton Johnson
Get Pokemon! is still technically correct, user.
Christian Martin
Gotta catch 'em all was a Western-only motto, and hasn't been used in fucking YEARS.
Tyler Butler
Except nobody is doing that, how do you misread a situation so badly? Are you actually retarded?
Elijah Sanders
They used the sheer number of pokemon as an excuse for lack of battle animations in the past, and now that only the pokemon in this new games region are allowed period, that excuse doesn't hold up, but they still don't have any battle animations at all. The entire game is just a lazy shitshow that will probably sell worse then USUM.
Christopher Hall
Compfag here. serebii.net/swordshield/galarpokedex.shtml Granted we don't know who's in or who's not but he gap in power between some of these mons is as ridiculous now as it was in gen7 and you won't be seeing shit like Wailord in the same team as Hydreigon when Milotic and Mantine are around. Togekiss will go fucking bananas without Zapdos around, Dynamaxed Clefable will likely be a pain and Gengar will be chemo to the point of becoming cancer itself. They better add a bunch of checks or counters to these mons or do a complete rebalancing of their movepools/abilities because you'll be reminiscing about how good Lando and Heatran were in no time.
Aaron Jenkins
based
Luke Parker
Wow, these faggots are really getting together over this. I hope GF doesn't cave to you whiny faggots and push the game release back so they can try and quickly shove in every Pokemon.
What's the point of even having EVERY pokemon? Just so some people can transfer their level 100 pokemon they've been holding onto every game into the PC in Galar and do jack shit from there? Why the fuck not just put it in Home instead. Also, it's not like the old games stop existing either. You're not instantly losing the chance to ever see these pokemon again. The next games will have their own pool, likely specifically picking ones that weren't picked in S/S so you can still catch them all just in different games and bringing them together via Home. Hell, it sounds like Home will make it even easier to get a full national dex together since they said it will allow trading.
Don't get me wrong here. GF are retarded and this is clearly a lazy decision. But it's not THAT big of a deal with everything else they're doing around it.
Owen Diaz
who fucking cares
are you 11 years old?
Kevin Brooks
What difference does that make? Either way you can’t get them. And then they can just patch the game when the sequel brings more.
Jeremiah Ortiz
Reminder Game Freak isn't an indie company, they have no fucking excuse to be this lazy. If Animal Crossing can get delayed to ensure quality, why the fuck can't Pokemon?
Nathaniel Martin
I just want a single fucking Pokemon I have been using for years in every game, that's all I care about. Some people have keep their one bud for years and it really sucks if you can't do this. I feel like their reasoning for not doing it pretty shitty and they just want to be able to rush this game out for the holiday's and if I can't bring my one Pokemon over then fuck this game.
it's fucking piss easy if it's furbait give it 600+ bst, a busted unique move and a powerful typing, if it's a filler mon make it grass type and give it 50 speed
Jaxon Ross
Good argument. Have sex.
Alexander Rodriguez
the series has been shit for awhile I dont know why you guys expect for them to go above and beyond. They have been implementing less and less pokemon and just putting in stupid gimmick mechanics.
Lincoln Thomas
>The series was never about catching all Pokemon! The absolute cope of drones, holy shit.
Gotta catch 'em all was entirely an American invention, it was never a thing in Japan.
Isaiah Smith
But you will still have them in Pokemon Bank, and probably Home. I mean, yeah it sucks that every game won't have all 1000+ pokemon, I want that too and don't like this decision, but claiming that GF is permanently deleting any pokemon is beyond stupid.
Yes it is. It's literally the cornerstone of every single argument on /vp/, here, and everywhere else. THEY'RE CULLING THEM, MY BROS ARE GONE FOREVER, I'LL NEVER SEE MY BROS AGAIN. It's retardation.
Wyatt Thompson
Are they....not gone forever? Am I just being stupid? If there was hope my competeive shiny team I worked so hard on wasn't dead forever - that's hope I wish I shared, trust me
Evan Rivera
From what I recall, they stopped using it for gen 3 because of complaints about encouraging addiction? Then they use it somewhat in gen 6.
Robert Wright
>Why aren't you happy about paying for less content
Because they need to be in that Holiday release window. Switch doesn't have a killer holiday release otherwise. Astral Chain looks fantastic but it's going to be niche and 2D Zelda games don't do the numbers that 3D Zeldas do.
Henry Jackson
>And then they can just patch the game when the sequel brings more. Just like they did with XY and SM?
Caleb Wright
have sex
Nathan Murphy
This is why Bayleaf is a shit Pokémon
Jason King
Please understand Anons, they are removing pokémons so that they can bring high quality animations for the game.
>Grown ass weeb thinks he isn't just as much of a subhuman for spending his time on a video game board
Luke Carter
imagine doing the bare minimum for a AAA company and thinking you deserve praise.
Jack Adams
They made a PAID service called Pokemon Bank that was expressly for the purpose of allowing Pokemon to be transferred to new gens through cloud storage. They charged people money for this shit and now they say we just can't do it in the new ones.
Imagine not doing the barest minimum to appease your fanbase and expecting to be praised.
Nathaniel Williams
People wouldn't be so up in arms if the precedent hadn't been set for like 2 decades user.
In a sense, they should have done this during Gen III.
Jose Brooks
They literally changed their company policy to say they won't implement non-regional mons anymore
Christian Wright
WHy the flying fucking hell would they be?
1. They will obviously add them into other games in the future, and will likely add more for the third version or sequels (and claim it as a feature like the cunts they are). I wouldn't be surprised if they added more into SnS as updates. 2. You can just keep them stored in Home or Bank until they are usable in a newer game. 3. If you are truly worried, drop them all off in SM or USUM just in case.
Luis Ramirez
The funny thing is most of these faggots don't even care about pokèmon. They either >Hurr why do you like something I don't or advocacy for the devil. What a brunch on niggers.
Alexander Ramirez
So you are retarded, thanks for clarifying. If the Pokemon you want to use isn't part of the roster in their future games then you can't use it, it may not be gone, but if you can't use it in new content going forward then it may as well be. It's like saying you can't get mad at a sequel being shit because the previous game was good, that's not how it works you faggot.
Blake Morales
You typed that post without understanding anything about what you're talking about
Ian Anderson
>But you will still have them in Pokemon Bank, and probably Home. Where they'll be essentially unusable, because whether a future game will let me use any of them is completely up to chance?
Jaxon Long
see Nintendo made a big fuss over delaying Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime 4 to help dev time Why can't Game Freak?
Mason Thomas
Pokémon has been shit for a long time, the morons that give money to this garbage franchise deserve to be fucked on every aspect possible. Maybe then they will learn.
Adam Miller
Imagine fucking up so bad that you end up pissing off your normally defensive normalfag audience. >They have been implementing less and less pokemon Really I'm surprised that this issue didn't happen earlier after stuff like Gen V adding 155 or the pre-evo/new evos of 2 and 4. GameFreak's lazy as fuck and keep themselves small
It's far easier to come up with unique animations for multiple things for 151 instead of 800+. Not having attack animations at all is a sheer sign of laziness however.
Carter Garcia
BTW, Pokémon Home might be Pokémon Jail if your mons aren't in the Galar Dex
>I wouldn't be surprised if they added more into SnS as updates. I want you to point me to one instance of them ever doing that, through all generations of Pokemon.
Kevin Lee
It literally wasn't, the gotta catch em all slogan was an American invention.
Jose Nguyen
Game Freak is a small indie studio, please understand.
My personal complaint about this is that they still have all those unnecessary delays not helped by the text scrolling, especially if you have all sorts of events and passives going on, like weather.
This would have been remedied with the Combat Log system to minimize all those text scrolling, while players would have even more detailed information and record of what happened.
Grayson Garcia
Nintendo can't tell Gamefreak what to do, and GF are lazy assholes who always take the easy way out.
Brandon Scott
>literally reusing models since 2013 >now it's suddenly too hard to put them in the game for a company with hundreds of employees
Why aren't you showing Stadium double kick instead?
Kayden Price
Did you miss every single game always making a huge deal out of completing your pokedex and every single mechanic being related to collecting pokemon? It's the whole appeal of the series.
Julian Anderson
Probably will screw over their big marketing push for that gen. Can't really market your new TCG sets or your anime advertisement if the game's delayed too much. I guess that's the issue of having an IP bigger than the devs who make the entries I wonder how mad people would be if every game ended up rotating what pokemon were available.
Samuel Ward
>GF can't model thousands of playable monsters each new game entry I thought the 3DS models were futureproof to avoid shit like this.
Gabriel Peterson
That's exactly my point user. Animal Crossing can afford to be delayed because of Pokemon being slated for Holiday.
Brandon Jones
Good, society has been coddling the autistic far too much.
Gabriel Clark
They literally have HD 3D models of every Pokemon and just needed to copy and paste them into the damn game
Aiden Long
>WHAT IF THEY NEVER BRING THEM BACK EVER AGAIN ABLOO BLOO BLOO Utter idiocy. 100% pure brainlessness. If you think the greediest company ever to plague this planet is going to just drop any of their 1000+ money-making toysellers, you have absolutely nothing in your head. Jesus fucking Christ. I bet you're the same stupid fucks that would go "What if they never make another Smash Bros? What if they never make another Call of Duty?" Yeah, what if a company wakes up one morning as a collective group, and everyone in it says, "Yo, I HATE money! We're done, no more money for us!"
Jace Wood
Pokemon has NEVER been concerned with balance you dingbat. Masuda is a fucking liar acting like they give a shit about balance, they cut the Pokedex because they can't be bothered to hire more people and are too incompetent to manage the resources they already have >make new models instead of using the already high quality "future proof" 3ds models >make new pokemon home app instead of using the already "future proof" pokebank app
Henry Miller
it's literally just sun and moon with 20 new pokemon
Jonathan Phillips
Futureproof for different timeline, please understand, game creation is very difficult
Parker Kelly
All 800 previous Pokemon already have animations completed. Which means they only have to animate the new ones. (If you stockpile old models and animations, you only EVER have to make the new ones)
Ryan Smith
>was working on making a living dex consisting of Pokemon caught in their original gens >Kanto mons from RGBY VC, Hoenn mons from RSE, etc >they'll all just end up in purgatory Based GF
Benjamin Scott
Yes
Jayden Stewart
I don't expect Stadium-tier animations in this for every mon and every move but I think it's reasonable to expect every pokemon when the models already exists. They're using the same models from the 3DS games already.
Liam White
Cool. Multiply that by 9 for the pokemon count, then again by 20 for the absurd number of moves in the games. Then make them in vastly better graphics.
Xavier Perry
It honestly is a good thing but watching all these nintenbros freaking out about pokemon rehash #124212421 doing something slightly different is hilarious desu
>making a huge deal out of completing your pokedex You mean one lousy certificate that does nothing if you complete it? SMT encourages collection more by giving you actual rewards for collection and it never includes its entire roster of demons in a game.
Thomas Thompson
>animations already present in gen6+7 >literally the reason why the model were so detialined in the first place to be reused in future games >lol lets throw it away and make the bare minimum, the retard will lap it up anyway Seeing you I must admit they had the right idea in the end.
Gabriel Price
There have been some Pokemon that have literally never been brought back into a regional dex since their conception, you are the brainlet here my friend.
Imagine being so cucked you're PAYING GameFreak to hold your favorites hostage until they decide they'll allow you to use them in the newest game, if they even want to considering some Pokemon have controversy behind them and you know damn well they'll never bring them back out of fear for that controversy.
They don't have unique animations for every move which is what people posting le double kick maymay are demanding.
Julian Carter
>something slightly different is yet another rehash but this time with less content Retard
Dylan Nguyen
There's no guarantee they're only cutting shitmons, faggot. Even if they did, there's still a huge chance a lot of decent mons don't make it.
Hudson Butler
>meanwhile masuda outright confirms that there will never be another game will the whole dex >thinking that nintendo has any say over what gamefreak does You fucks really go all out, trying to defend this heaping pile of shit.
Hudson Morris
>cutting content is doing something slightly different Based retard tripfag
Ryan Wood
The difference here is that Game Freak set a precedent to allow importing pokemon for 2 decades. SMT never allowed this.
Oliver Nelson
Gen 5 is my favourite, but you can't even bring Pokemon in from old games, and that was always reserved for the post-game, anyway.
Exactly, that's why I said GF should focus on their new Pokemon each game entry, and only bring back a select few of the old ones and rotating through them in the next game.
This would allow GF to actually polish their battle animations and system. Not like it'll ever happen, it's clear the fans prefer quantity>quality based on the outcry seen so far.
Jason Murphy
HGSS did nothing to fix the many problems of GSC but retards still lapped it up because >muh following pokemon >muh battle frontier copypasted from platinum
>slightly different >can't catch em all is slightly different
William Miller
>There have been some Pokemon that have literally never been brought back into a regional dex since their conception, you are the brainlet here my friend. Name one
Jeremiah Jones
Just hire some cheap chinese third party to make the animations, they have money for that.
"Futureproof" models were a mistake and so was trading between generations. Designing assets to be copypasted for decades stifles creativity and causes the fanbase to bizarrely get mad when the games aren't bloated messes.
Owen Gomez
Things I want >more regional forms >more megas >more alternate forms >random battle tower
things I'll get >nothing >new gimmick that will be ignored next gen
Connor Thomas
Not in RS until later games (including fucking gamecube games)
Aiden Rivera
And still had more content than ORAS.
Nolan Brown
This so much. Holy shit pokemons battles are so fucking slow. Just play out the battle without telling me about it and if I'm too much of a retard to understand that happenned I'll bring up the combat log
Parker Perry
...what? Black and White both have poke transfer.
Ryan Rivera
I didn't even know this shit was possible before yesterday lol
Luis Lopez
>Cutting out the content that a small fraction of the playerbase ever used >In the first huge graphical leap the games have had since X&Y >On top of new content like them straight up starting to do multiplayer that isn't just fighting each other or trading I don't mind this being cut on the way to progress. The only real problem is that GF is too timid to take real steps forward so it's all halfsteps.
I mean, in a sense they have, just never in a first generation title. Every remake they've made has had their dex limited to the region/generation. LGPE was literally just KANTOOOO and Meltan/Melmetal, with Meltan/Melmetal being literally gen 7 pokemon you couldn't bring to either version of Sun & Moon. The problem seems to be that they're doing it to a mainline game for the first time AND they're expanding the limitation to have the pokemon in the region more curated. It's too much change for these whiny faggots that always complain about the game never changing.
Adrian Young
Glameow.
Elijah Harris
GF already admitted they don't care about Pokemon anymore and left it to team B, why do people still even buy this garbage?
William Scott
It was the last good installment.
Asher Morgan
if 500 people kill themselves in Barcelona then what's stopping another 500 and another, and another, and another. untill barselona goes to shit we give GameFreak and inch and they're gonna take a mile
Jason Robinson
Like only 30% of the mons are at all usable, most are novelty shit, they should at this point reboot the whole series and fix things, I can't believe they are still forced to add shit incenses for breeding because "duh in gen 2 Munchlax didn't exist"
Ian Diaz
lmao, you're the one having the autistic meltdown about a Pokemon thread
Play in traffic
Owen Green
Cut your fingers off, that's something different. Filtered
Adam Gomez
Because they will obviously use the unused models in later games you cretin
Michael Nelson
It's all about expectations user.
Fighting games generally don't set a precedent of including everyone and their mother for every entry. Pokemon has until now.
Charles Harris
Because previous regional dexes didn't go over 300, stupid.
>meanwhile masuda outright confirms that there will never be another game will the whole dex And? Now show me where he said that certain pokemon are never going to be in another game. I'll wait for you, but you'll never find it because that would be stupid as fuck
And of course, lastly >trying to defend NOPE. It's a laughably stupid decision, but you people thinking that they will forever delete any pokemon are equally as stupid.
Logan Allen
As lazy, greedy, and incompetent as GF is, I never imagined they'd have the audacity to gut the National Dex. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll bring it back in the Ultra S/M equivalent for Sword/Shield.
Jonathan Long
>weebposter
lol
Colton Morales
Only because GSC had more content than RS
Benjamin Sanchez
but there's more content sweetums, just because your dunsparce isnt in the game doesn't change that fact
From Kanto alone there is the hitmon line, kabuto and omanyte lines.
Noah Rivera
>nearly every new gen game since ruby and sapphire has done exactly this >people still act surprised that game freak is incompetent or that mons will be missing for a while
Daniel Lewis
>ok the game is crap but THEY WILL FIX IT I'M SURE They already said they won't bring old pokemon.
Levi Russell
>less content is more content lol
Angel Reyes
Buddy fuck you, Ledian is one of the best looking pokemon of Gen 2
Noah Jackson
Not RS
Landon Sanders
National Dex is post game you fucking moron.
Andrew Jones
Man I enjoyed the hell out of gen 5 but the level reqs for some lines are straight retarded
Angel Stewart
Pokemon always had horrible gameplay and literally the only appeal of the series was looking at all the unique pokemon, what's left now that this is gone and they keep making less and less pokemon?
Logan Stewart
LGPE's size have a MASSIVE bloat in file size despite having far less pokemon data. Iwata isn't around to help them with compression, so GF's incompetence ensures they will have trouble fitting it for sword and shield.
Parker Cox
>he thinks not including pokemon in one game means that they're being deleted forever dilate and have sex
Zachary Nguyen
Kill yourself, zoomer
Ryder Murphy
>the amount of content in a game hinges on dunsparce's presence
And since RS, they made a point of keeping backwards compatibility going. You could take your Sceptile from Ruby and carry it all the way through to Ultra Sun. Guess making games is just too hard. :(
Kevin Davis
>it's okay now because maybe in the future it'll be different The retardness of apologists has reached a new height.
Wait so its literally impossible to catch them all? I mean it was in all the other ones but at least you could trade to get them from other games. This kinda sucks
Tyler Thomas
They already had it cut in SM, but at least you could still import your old mons into the game. Now with that gone they essentially gutted the whole "gotta catch em all" aspect of the game.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
>USUM let you use 807 Pokemon >SwSh will let you use a few hundred at most That's less content, shill.
Christopher Morgan
Please point me to the exact quote where Masuda said this.
Christian Williams
>I-It's FINE, THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE FAVORITES, NO SHITMON OR UNPOPULAR WILL BE IN >Avalugg and Vanilluxe confirmed >mfw
Besides, each Pokemon has tons of fans, and it's a kick in the face to all of them
Only two or so games let you trade and one allow for a compendium transfer(bullshit how Royal doesn't do it like FES, but I'm going off track), never set a precident of trading between entries being a main feature and the demons are built differently from pokemon (or even between games considering races, stat changes, fusions, skills). Though I'm still sad about Apocalypse losing a lot of the toku designed demons from IV.
William Bell
Pretty sure the people complaining about this haven't touch a Pokemon game since 2014.
Alexander Fisher
>Because previous regional dexes didn't go over 300, stupid. >meanwhile just one gen prior proves you wrong >twice I do hope they pay you for being this retarded.
>It's a gamefreak defender trying so hard to justify even more content removal from the series, AGAIN
Fuck off, people like you are why they keep doing this
Jacob Myers
It's not just too much change at once, it's that coupled with the half-steps you mentioned. They're going to omit an untold number of Pokémon for reasons that seem arbitrary at best.
Now, this is just my thoughts, but I think people would cope a bit more if the game slashed the roster in favor significantly improving animations and such in an attempt to bring the Pokemon to life more. That's mostly due to people living with current 'animations' due to normally being able to use Pokémon they've been using for most of their natural born life. Again these are just my ideas on the matter.
Ian Jones
Not gonna say they look good, but honestly most RPG's do that shit with their generic cutscenes. They're clearly putting a lot of effort into the more important cutscenes. The animations of the Gym leaders so far have been really good. Generic animation for generic scenes is fine.
Julian Parker
why the fuck do people care tho i have hard time understand this the whole point of new pokemon games is new pokemons, the core game is still the exact fucking same 25 years later
Dominic Garcia
>corporate bootlicking >tripfag >/pol/ poster Good lord man.
Nolan Baker
Yes. Dunsparce is content that has been part of the game since gen 2. No Dunsparce means less content. Literally
>gen 1 - could catch them all >gen 2 - could catch them all with some trading with gen 1 >gen 3 - could catch them all >gen 4 - could catch them all as long as you migrated the Regi trio over >gen 5 - could catch them all, with heavy migration and dream world necessary >gen 6 - could catch them all >gen 7- could catch them all, as long as you paid for Bank >gen 8 - cannot catch them all by any means
Brayden Sullivan
Backwards compatibility is dumb. It discourages innovation and encourages autistic behavior.
Christopher Richardson
Who legitimately takes time out of their life to catch every single pokémon? You'd have to shit your balls out just trying to get event only ones (victiny).
Xavier Cruz
And it still gives you better rewards and incentives for collection than pokemon ever did.
Jason Walker
So I assume you can see the future and already know when the old ones are back in? Pray tell me when Volcarona will make it back then?
Jacob Diaz
>several games
EVERY game.
Easton Collins
It is when battling with those characters is the *entire game*, lmao
Zachary Wright
>pokemon >multi million dollar franchise That's wrong you fucking retard.
They are a multi-(B)ILLION dollar franchise
Camden Lewis
RS still had those Pokémon in game files, and FR/LG were made specifically to bring Gen 1 Pokémon into Gen 3
Jaxson Adams
Gen I: 151 Gen II: 251 (100 new) Gen III: 386 (135 new) Gen IV: 493 (107 new) Gen V: 649 (156 new) Gen VI: 721 (72 new) Gen VII: 802 (81 new) Gen VIII: 12
Again, please point me to the quote where Masuda said that mons not included in SWSH will never be used in future games again.
Adam Reed
I want to cum inside her
Jordan Wilson
And let's not forget how many of those pokemon aren't fully evolved making discussion about balance pointless with the possible exception of the ones which benefit from eviolite.
Grayson Ramirez
Not even true. In fact, DPPt had a lot of fun shit happen when you had a gen 3 cartridge in. >new wild Pokemon from the inserted game would show up >events hinged on whether or not you had a given transferred Pokemon >you could get all sorts of special items from certain NPCs
Matthew Rivera
Looking at this thread, is there a single person who thinks this is a good thing and isn't a shitposting baiter?
Ayden Bell
my favorite part was when they blamed there being no national dex on balancing for competitive fags.
Nicholas Edwards
>who fucking cares
The outcry was huge then too moron, at least there was a genuine technical reason then.
It’s not like you’re actually using all 800 Pokemon in your living dex to battle in every game. All but 6-10 of them are just sitting in a box rotting anyway, whats the difference if the box they’re rotting in is on Home in the cloud now?
Evan Williams
Kek
Levi Moore
Does GF have furry devs or what?
John Reyes
>says they will only include those who will fit in regions >somehow that means that every single one will be represented in the future >it's utterly incomprehensible that someone as lazy as gamefreak will only take the popular ones into account Keep eating shit, someone as dumb as you donesn't deserve any better.
Hunter Harris
>video game board full of gamers who enjoy playing video games
You people have zero self awareness, have you ever looked at a woman and not made her uncomfortable? Genuine question.
Caleb Turner
But when RS came out, those pokemon were essentially unavailable without hacking. It was entirely later support that allowed you to bring missing pokemon into RS, and you still couldn't transfer from RBY or GSC. It's obvious that later games, probably in the same generation, will have the missing pokemon so that you can play a game with your favorite shitmon.
Dylan Moore
The closest times Pokémon came to dying was when they pulled similar stunts (RS and BW respectively). Except that in RS it was justified by overhauling the data structure of mons and in BW it was a gimmick limited to the main campaign. Here it is a permanent direction change that seems justified by what is nothing else than laziness and incompetence. I don't know how much it will impact sales(it WILL), but it is amazing that their arrogance allowed them to do the single thing that would have made the loyal reddit and twitter crowd turn on them.
Sebastian Miller
My favorite part is they say this and then bring over stupid broken Pokemon that have no counter anymore. Like fucking Togakiss is in the game with out anything to counter or stop it anymore
Joshua Rodriguez
They should just lower the count to 150~ good pokemon then.
Josiah Parker
The series was ALWAYS about collecting them, don't be fucking stupid, that was LITERALLY the concept from the get go, regardless of the slogan
Joseph Garcia
>balance >game for 4 year olds
what? pokemon has no balance, the fuck are you on about
Nathaniel Hill
Again, point to the quote where Masuda said that mons missing in SWSH are gone forever.
Easton Smith
>those pokemon were essentially unavailable without hacking But they were still *in the game*. That is not the case with Sword and Shield.
Blake Wilson
This can't be real.
Anthony Hughes
They were "in the game" but they were completely unavailable. It's functionally the same thing.
Joshua Adams
>Like the Pokemon you have been transfering since RSE? >Too bad if they got dusted >Like any species not found in Galar? >Too bad >Want to chain breed moves to a Pokemon for a unique set? >Too bad if they are not in SWSH >Want to play in PU, NU, RU, or just use certain Pokemon? >Sorry, but those tiers will be gutted of several Pokemon you want to use, and will be a glorified top tiers with NFEs >Want to complete the only challenging part of Pokemon, but completing the Dex >Too bad
Andrew Campbell
They shouldn't have made FRLG at all. Instead of remakes, there should be more multiregional games like GSC or games which revisit the old regions but are set in different times, past or future.
Andrew Torres
People claim this is for balance, but no balance will be even worst with some of the already confirmed Pokemon in the game being left unchecked with no counter anymore. This isn't balance at all and people saying this are fucking stupid.
Reminder that temtem is a fucking unfished indie game and still looks better than every official pokemon game from the past decade. Also on PC. youtube.com/watch?v=1V0X31Ncwcg
Not him, but it's not. Now when they inevitably release the second wave of gen 8 games, they'll either exclude those pokemon again to match SS or trading will be heavily restricted. RS could still trade with FRLG freely.
Thomas Foster
It's not, because you could get Sneasel in LeafGreen and trade it over to Ruby and use it just fine. SwSh aren't going to have code for Pokemon that aren't in the game, so if Sw2Sh2 gives you Swinub and SwSh doesn't have Swinub, you can't bring it back.
How many pokemon fall into the unusable category? The franchise needs a purge at this point. It's way past bloated. I don't need 8 gens worth of route 1 pokemon.
Sebastian Cook
Not when RS were first released.
Liam Morales
limiting the number of Pokémon you can acquire to a small amount would be fine if they were perfectly balanced for the world and gameplay. too bad gamefreak is too incompetent to do even that.
Nathaniel Sanders
Functionally the same thing for a limited time, with the groundwork laid to include everything later
Vs
Deliberately cutting them and saying you aren’t gonna fix it cuz you don’t feel like doing the work
Grayson Phillips
old people.
Tyler Flores
The multi-cartridge stuff is neat, I agree, and it's not dependent on backwards compatibility. Possible trademark concerns aside, the same kind of easter eggs could have been programmed in for carts from any other game.
Austin Fisher
Any examples?
Christian Rodriguez
>No Ditto confimred >implying they'd lose out on complete kantopandering
Parker Miller
...
Hudson Miller
They're all usable if you're not some autistic compfag.
Juan Bell
When RS were first released without any of the other Gen 3 games, could you get a Sneasel in RS through any legal means?
Wyatt Gutierrez
Still doesn't mean you should block people from transfering after years of consistency.
Wyatt Adams
Nope, get fucked on Gne1mon people care about.
Adam Williams
They did in RS
Aiden Bennett
Gen 4 is where I realized they had run out of ideas completely when they had so many gen 1 related evolutions. The biggest joke was the Alola forms they shouldnt have even bothered making a game at that point. I would have respected them more if they flatout said "we dont care about pokemon anymore and we will continue to make spinoff and baby-tier games for our younger fans. We didnt expect to get this far but as of lately we have run out of ideas and interest thanks for understanding."
I saw the first warning signs when Firered and Leafgreen were made. The series was just stagnant and we waited awhile for a 4th gen only to have so many rehashed designs from 1st gen. Then they made black&white2 and it was just stupid.
Hudson Thompson
I agree with this.
Christopher Butler
This except there are some exceptions. Carnivine you piece of shit I wanted you to be remotely useful
Hunter Mitchell
>None of my favorites have been cut so far Sucks for you other guys I guess.
Juan Roberts
>but I don't see why not having literally every single Pokemon to date is such a big deal until USUM you can have all mons in one game, even if they doesn't have dex number, but in SS (inb4) you outright can't transfer it
Levi Gonzalez
Only to never do that again until now. Not even a issue of data transfering.
Jaxson Edwards
They're going to put in all 151 Kantomons, every Shillmon, and a few new Galarmon into this game. They will never miss out on an opportunity to get more KANTOOOOOOObux whenver they can.
>Alola forms are bad Okay most of them ended up being shit but >having a different form available as a way to rework older pokes and make them useable is a bad idea You’re retarded
Jonathan Ortiz
He's not denying that you couldn't get Sneasel on release of Gen 3, he's highlighting that there was express intent to include them in the game, and that was realized upon the release of FR/LG.
Noah Hughes
Irrelevant. Ruby and Sapphire were designed to be forward-compatible, Sword and Shield are not. As you can see, I have a Sneasel in Pokemon Box - Ruby and Sapphire.
1: All Pokemon were still obtainable, in that generation, and usable in RS. 2: They made a point of never severing compatibility again, even when shit got really retarded when going from gen 4 to 5.
>gen 3 could catch them all assuming you had colosseum's bonus disc
Nolan Perry
No Pokémon game ever has every Pokémon available but at least we were able to transfer them. GameFreak already made the models and animations for every single Pokémon, they're just reusing them from X, Y, Sun & Moon. The fact that they are doing this is just incredible laziness from GameFreak. And the fact that they won't even patch it in the future means that the sequel games will show having all Pokémon as a feature.
>you could always catch em all before! >at the beginning of the third gen you couldn't catch certain pokemon until later support came >b-but you could with later support!
Jose Barnes
doggo :3
Kevin Cox
>We can stop them from killing the series
The series has been dead for years now user
Nolan Martinez
This is the same series that created Stealth Rock. Balance isn't even remotely on the menu.
Anthony Taylor
Why are there people defending this? I'm lucky enough that my favorite is decently popular so it'll probably be available, but what if someone's favorite is something like fucking Jynx or Porygon? This is fucking ridiculous, and the fact that some people are defending it is stupid. Yea Forums is full of contrarians, but this is something you should NOT be defending, regardless of how contrarian you are.
Blake Martin
Because it was going to happen eventually, no other monster collecting series with so many different mons includes their full roster in every game. Nobody complains when SMT and Digimon does it for years.
I legitimately cannot understand those percentages.
Nicholas Morales
So heres a rational explanation from someone whos not a pokemon autist.
Basically, old games used to let you bring in pokemon from other games once you reached the 75% mark through the game. Some /vp/ autists and man children grew attached to literal pixels and began taking them from game to game. Only to stomp the elite 4 and win and pretend like they did something meaningful.
This new game, doesn't allow you to do that, as not every pokemon has a 3d model, and they didn't want to model 900+ pokemon models, so they just didn't do it.
Now if your a rational pokemon fan, this isn't a big deal and the bigger deal is that the game itself looks like ass. But if your a /vp/ autist like the many who have replied to you using "feelings" instead of thinking rationally, of course this is a big deal.
However, you need to remember that Pokemon's market isn't towards the 30 year old manchild living in his mothers house who remembers Gen 1, it's marketed towards literal kids who don't give a single fuck about any of this.
James Howard
Why are people defending game freak so hard?
Nolan Turner
It's different because it's been a selling point since the series' inception, and they even unveiled a new software to transfer your Pokemon from the handheld game to consoles, but you can't put those Pokemon into Sword and Shield because they're lazy.
>not every pokemon has a 3d model False. They've been modeled using high-quality models since X and Y. Keep eating shit, dumbass.
Blake Rogers
You retard. Ditto is part of the original 151 pokemon. They are all in.
John King
>>you could always catch em all before! He never said that to begin with.
Brody Wilson
>mega fug exists Yeah, they sure care about balance, based retard.
Luke Perez
The Pokemon isn't deleted forever, they'll be back in some later game. I don't think it's an amazingly positive thing, but it's not a catastrophe either.
Jaxson Ramirez
What a fucking shit-eater you are. Does it feel fun slurping up Game Freak's cum?
Alexander Rivera
Grass knot
Gabriel Bennett
Is there a list of who's in and who's not?
Jaxson Davis
Honestly they should scrap those models and go back to making new ones every generation.
Kevin Parker
>it's been a selling point since the series' inception not in Japan.
Evan Ramirez
Nope, need to cute the fat user. Only the cool well like from Gen 1 will be in.
Yes, but if you're making people pay for a cloud service to bring Pokemon into Gen 8, then allow them to put Pokemon into Sword and Shield. I'm not sure why it's even something they're trying to keep us from doing.
The issue isn't with the severity of the situation itself, rather that gf did this and gave a half assed excuse when they've had several years now to prevent a scenario like this.
Ryder Jenkins
That's why you get a certificate in each game for catching every single Pokemon, right?
Christian Brown
Got shot. Right up there in tick-tock clock.
Robert Cook
>Defending People don't care. Lots of pokemon overlap in niches or gimmics. The only thing a pokemon has going for it is its design, and some people are just not that attached to pixels.
Jose Rodriguez
I legit believe they got the data that shows like 0.5% of their fanbase has caught them all and just said fuck it.
Juan Garcia
You keep repeating this, but wheres your fucking source.
James Harris
Shouldn't you be complaining for the cloud service to be free then instead
>Only been the president of Nintendo USA for 2 months >Game Freak pulls this >Have to now deal with all of the backlash The look on this man's face when they announced this and he was sitting right besides the Game Freak director says it all.
>as not every pokemon has a 3d model but every mon have one, heck they even made every mon with high count polygons in order to reuse it in future statements, the thing that don't want to do is more animations
Wait a sec, can you not transfer pokémon from Sun and Moon into this?
Benjamin Richardson
>not even Abra Why do people keep saying gen 1 is guaranteed?
Samuel Turner
I seriously dont understand the fuss surrounding this. I literally heard them say all 800 pokemon are in the game. So that'd mean you'd just have to catch them all over again.
Luke Torres
>It's different because it's been a selling point since the series' inception You're still catching them all, you don't catch Pokemon outside of the national dex in the first place
Lucas Adams
The fact that they've used the same fucking 3D models since X and Y, and just upped the quality of them because of system power. They were insanely high quality for the 3DS, and that's why the game lagged so fucking much.
Noah Gonzalez
>using SWSH over SNS how the fuck do you even pronounce SWSH?
Kevin Walker
Again, ya'll keep repeating the same shit, but wheres your sources that they do in fact, have every pokemon modeled and locked away in some secret t-pose vault?
Isaiah Hughes
Oh yeah user a half-assed ingame certificate acknowledging your autism is a massive incentive. You get better rewards for completing the Compendium in SMT games but according to you those games aren't about collection.
Sebastian Reyes
Ohmori waifufagging probabily
Josiah Perry
The best pokemon game has already been made. Why do you incels care about a new release? Also,
Have sex
Charles Moore
If they aren't available in Galar, then you can't transfer them.
Brayden Campbell
You can, but through Bank.
Jordan Clark
Game Freak is shit. That being said, 'gotta catch them all' was just a meme tag-line from the anime.
Michael Baker
Now you can't get a shit ton of them even WITH hacking, you literal retard. What's so fucking hard to understand here?
Jace Bailey
>t. has never played a Pokemon game for the last 8 years
Colton Robinson
You could catch them all within a given generation, yes. And they were fully implemented within said generation, yes.
Joseph Baker
The difference is previously, the foundation for later support was there and visible. Now, the director has come out and flat out said they aren’t going to support it
Austin Robinson
Who's the scitzo that wrote this code?
Noah Ramirez
Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon? They use the same models.
Jace Hill
They are about collecting as well, but they've never created software to transfer your demons from game to game, including a new one they revealed like two fucking weeks ago before saying you can't bring your old Pokemon into Sword and Shield, but totally pay for this cloud service to keep them there anyway just in case they're some of the lucky few added to Gen 8.
Eli Hall
So, Pokemon Home just ... renders the majority of your own Pokemon unusable? Can't transport them forward or back? You just pay and it bricks your Pokemon
Jaxon Myers
SNS is a popular term already.
Julian Price
>weebs >gamers why you are here in the first place?
Zachary Bennett
>it's utterly incomprehensible that someone as lazy as gamefreak will only take the popular ones into account reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, right? Not that it surprises me anymore.