Smash DLC

These are LITERALLY the only options left
Which two are getting onto the fighter pass?

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Edelgard & Sylux

>no rayman
Dropped

DR. EGGMAN

FUCK THESE LITERALLY WHOS

Yoshimitsu because he's worth two spots

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I don't see Sora there

Agumon and Crash

>thinking 1st party characters have a chance

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>no Saber
>no Chibi motherfucking Robo

>implying Nintendo and Bethesda would ever choose Doomguy over Dragonborn

His Highness
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Geralt.
You know it to be true.

>goku

>Dark Souls

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Skyrim is finished, Todd didn't even shill it this E3. Meanwhile they're shoving Doom in our faces every chance they get.

Reimu and Doomguy is the best combo

Hayabusa and possibly Lloyd are the most likely. Is Nakoruru only there because SNK/Bandai needs a/another rep?

square rep is the hero
spirits are out
needs to originate from games but based.

He's coming, you know it to be true, Nintendo isn't done pissing on PS All Stars.

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Spirit'd
Irrelevant
>Expecting a THIRD Squeenix rep

>two swordies are the most likely
Why did it have to come to this?

No they’re not you retard. What about a RE character, Steve, Master Chief, Travis, etc etc literally so many countless possibilities for new characters.

> Rulefagging when Banjo is in
The only rule is video game characters only

Doomguy for Doom being the grandaddy of FPS's.
Reimu for Touhou being the mother of indie games and a SHMUP rep

>RE character
MAYBE
>Steve, Master Chief
Microsoft got their rep already
>Travis
Not nearly popular enough

>smashified Crash
gross

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ZOOMER ALERT
Add Nightmare from Soul Calibur into your pic
How the fuck is nobody bringing up Nightmare.
Aa much as i want chosen undead fromsoftware isnt owned bt namco its only published by them in westeen countries.
Nightmare is owned by namco and is the face of the soul calibur series.
Nightmare will be in. Dont you forget it.
Can Someone add the SC 2 pic cause i cant for all the zoomers who dont know his badassery

Crash and Jibanyan

DoomGuy and Crash.

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>Capcom has more than one rep
>Konami has more than one rep
>Sega has more than one rep
>Squeenix has more than one rep
>Namco still has only Pac-Man
Give it to me, bros, does he still have a chance? Even if a little?

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>No Saber

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SNK doesnt have any Rep, neither ae related to Bandai.

Assuming Nintendo is TRYING to go for a 'Vidya history' angle, Nako would be a logical choice, because officially she is SNK's mascot, Terry or Kyo would be proper picks too.

SC rep would be Mitsurugi or Talim, if they had a chance at all

>No Villains
That list is incomplete

The two videos we got for the DLC newcomers were directly following events of previous videos: Banjo followed K. Rool's scene, and The Hero happens during the second half of World of Light (meanign that it happens after Galeem's first defeat since we see Darkhon).
The characters revealed also followed a theme: Banjo was revealed along a Rare create character (K. Rool), and the DQ hero fought the darkness (DQ is heavily themed around the themes of light vs dark).
If they decide to follow this trend and keep reusing assets, here's what kind of newcomers we could expect (there can only be two, but here are four likely scenarios):
Isabelle, Inkling, Joker and PP didn't have proper trailers, so they are not included:

A)Following the Ridley and Samus fight, a character sci fi themed, possibly a hunter or one used to fight aliens and the like, saves the day.
B)Following Simon entering Dracula's Castle, someone used to deal with paranormal events or different kind of "scary" monsters either helps Simon or saves him.
C)Follow Incineroar defeating Ken, a character specialized in boxing, wrestling, or martial arts come and defeats Incineroar or at least fights him.
D)Following The Hero fighting Darkhon's puppets, this character would fight both Galeem and Darkhon's minions. Probably a powerful character used to deal with gods and the like.

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>Goku
>Sylux
>Eldegard
>Nintendo character
lol

Actually based. I've been hoping for a SC rep as well ever since Bamco began helping with development for 4.
I felt like Yoshimitsu could also be a strong contender since he can represent both SC and Tekken.

Not a chance

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If banjo got in most likely the next person to join him would be conker

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>Dark souls
I don't see that working out

Its going to be Crash and an official Xbox rep.

So all the console mascots from over the years will finally be able to duke it out

Chosen Undead and Jill Valentine

Where is Terry mother fucking smashtard?

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Replace Goku with Porky, Non Video game characters cannot get in.

You forgot the obvious pick.

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Banjo counts as MS, so it's missing a SNK rep for Neo Geo

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For each case:

A) Doomguy destroys Ridley.

B) Leon Kennedy investigates the castle

C) Heihachi fights Incineroar

D) Dante saving Bayonetta?

>sell fighter passes on the first three fighters
>save on licensing by slipping in first parties at the end
Reminder that newcomer DLC in 4 was Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta and...Corrin

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>Now that Banjo's in, Crashposting has skyrocketed
Based
If Crash gets in though, he'll probably be the last one. Having two shirtless anthropomorphic platforming mascots from the 90's would feel redundant back to back.

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Forgetting Sans Undertale

SNK has been trying very hard to push Ruru as their mascot

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Unironically pretty good

Reimu and Doomguy would be dope.

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Ryu hyubasa and Crash in a perfect world. I don't really like either of them but they'd please a lot of people.

Give me one reason why trophies didn't deconfirm characters but spirits do?

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Terry already found a new home in FEXL, and Geese is a Tekken character now

>nudoom farts instead of E1M1
meh

He's figuratively who

now heihachi mishimas where its at

Where the fuck is Geno at?

SEGA has 3 reps.

PHOENIX RISES FROM THE ASHES!

Because DLC for Sm4sh wasn’t planned ahead of time like it was for Ultimate. Sakurai said Rex was too late for the project plan, and that’s reflected in the datamined spirit list in that everything Xenoblade 2 is at the end separate from the other Xenoblade stuff. Rayman isn’t, which means it was decided early he was a spirit.

>no jibanyan
>no viewtiful joe
>no dante
>no resident evil
>no digimon

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As a Geno fan, he's not getting in.

>no piranha plant spirit before his release
>"partner pikachu" spirit added, differentiates from normal pikachu
I'm sure there are other examples too

If we are going with this trend, I could see Reimu's trailer happening right after Galeem spirits everybody but Kirby with lasers. She could show up (Galeem is the incident) and dodge his barrage of OHKO lasers, get really close to him and attempt to finish him off with a spellcard.

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It would probably be when both Darkhon and Galeem are fighting, though.

He still has a chance. A very low chance, but still a chance.

If he doesn't show up for DLC, he's very likely for Smash 6 assuming it happens.

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It'll be Monster Hunter you idiots

Guys, stop. Digimon has 0 chance. After seeing Banjo and DQ get reps, I just get sadder when I remember DIgimon isn't participating in this beautiful vidya hall of fame. Let's all just forget about it.

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Has to be Doomguy. As retro as possible. He'll probably be the last one though. The next character will be a lame one, thats how these things go.

What about mother fucking Porky?
I wouldn't even mention it if you just posted third party characters, but you put Edelgard and Sylux there.

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Pic related is the one who truly deserves to be in smash. his reveal will coincide with Projecct Nexus 2 being announced for switch.

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you're forgetting that goldeneye 007 is getting in as the other rare rep

You forgot someone.

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Lloyd and Sylux.

He still wasn't added as a spirit?
Odd, especially with how much love Mother received in Ultimate.

>Phoenix
>fucking Sylux
>REIMU

Cringey bandwagon shit. Monster Hunter alone is 10 times more popular and relevant than half that list. I'd say add Dragonborn and Heichi or Yoshimitsu and it would start looking better. Hell, even Geralt and Dante are fair game now.

>Chosen Undead/Oscar

Fuck that, gimme Ornstein, Smough, Lautrec, Nameless King, or basically anyone who isn't another vanilla swordsman.

Gimme Doomguy, Crash/Kiryu.

FUCK DEMONS

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If Ryu Hayabusa got in, I'd be completely happy with the 3rd party roster and not want for anyone else

Havel

>Trailer takes place after DQ Hero trailer
>We see Ness and Lucas struggling with dark/light minions
>Minions get taken out
>Porky means business!
>Ness and Lucas are both shocked
>Porky just stares smugly at them

GIVE ME LlOYD IRVING AND GIVE ME CRASH BANDICOOT.

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>it's too late to shill for 3H

the nightmare might finally be over...

>Monster Hunter
already in the game
>Dragonborn
dead game
>Heihachi
mii costume
>Dante
bayonetta reskin

We'll be waiting for you Doombro.

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I love digimon as much as the next guy but there is an unbelievable power gap between Wargreymon and everyone ese

Oh yeah, that makes more sense since keeping the balance and shit.

What do you mean?

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Thanks banjobro

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This is objectively the best lineup. It gets two "mature" East/West characters to complement the two cartoony East/West characters just revealed, and gets a female character in there too. Jill Valentine replacing Morrigan would also work.

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Holy shit, this is a beautiful reference

It would be if Darkstalkers wasn't fucking dead.

Doomguy, announced Sept direct, releasing Nov, picked due to being one of the pioneers of FPS games, his history with nintendo, his new game Doom Eternal and Bethesda's partnership with nintendo.

Crash, announced Dec at Game Awards, releasing Feb. Picked due to his iconic status and the shock value of him being considered 'the playstation mascot'

This is it

uhm, exSQUEEZE ME?

what about these two gals?

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Would also work with the Chosen Undead.

It's a good lineup, But I like other characters better.

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Give me Dante and Doom Slayer. I'd go full soi

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Did you completely forget about Joker and Pirahna Plant user?
Or better yet, the chairs?
And did you forget about how DLC was planned a long time ago, while the trailers were made way after?
And the only connected trailers that are not in the same trailer are K. Rools’s and Banjo&Kazooie’s.

never-ever but I'd main Reimu if she gets in, even if she's literally 'ganon in brawl' tier.

Doomguy is a literal who in Japan. Replace Morrigan with Reimu to balance things out.

>>Dante
>bayonetta reskin
t. has literally never played a DMC game

based jibronyan

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goblin slayer is nothing but references.

>466081070
>objectively
Your shitty fake leak didn't catch on. Get over it.

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Marco from Metal Slug

only one I'd buy is Doomguy

i can see sakurai's choice are only in pic related

>Can literally create a Sun on a whim as a basic attack

True patrician taste

Actually expecting the last two characters to be Nintendo ones.

Ryu Hayabusa's next. He has to be. The Ninja Gaiden series started on the NES back in the '80s, much like Mario, Link, Donkey Kong and the like. Putting him in Smash is almost a no-brainer.

Reminder that the FINAL DLC was Bayonetta someone that was hype inducing and no one really expected dumbass.

I don't think Scorpion or Travis are going to get in, but they COULD potentially happen.

The only one in that image that I care about is for Reimu, but she is not getting in there, fuck your obscure doujin franchise.
Doomguy sounds like fun, gameplay and thematically wise.

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>Doomguy destroys Ridley.
I always thought it would be cool if Doom Guy's trailer started with a first person perspective from Dark Samus, going through a tech base, then hearing gunfire and monstrous cries, only to find Doom Guy having defeated Ridley.

Dude, we're talking about a game where you can make a bottle cap-sized astronaut beat a witch that can hurl a building-sized dragon with her bare hands

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This.
I'd like Hayabusa and Doomguy.

>Reimu
>bandwagon shit
Zoomer spotted. Touhou is fucking huge in japan and she's the premier indie franchise there. Indies wouldn't be a thing in Japan if Touhou did popularize doujinshi.

Nako has always been the SNK mascot since the 90s, alongside Terry and Kyo. this is not something new.

D A N T E

A samsho character is not getting into smash. Sorry.

Blue metroid guy maybe next year with MP4 announcement, doomguy

people expected Grinch tier characters to be revealed as the last characters for Ultimate and all they got was Ken and Shillmon, expect something lame

Based and Crashpilled. He’s coming I feel it.

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>If Touhou *didn't* popularize
Little typo there

>Goku
We already have Erdrick
Also
>Not Travis

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Goemon is next. His series has more entries and is far better.

Yes but this is Square "two songs, two alts, no spirits" Enix

>Did you completely forget about Joker and Pirahna Plant user?
No 3D trailer.
>Or better yet, the chairs?
Never said it was the truth, a theory is a theory.
>And did you forget about how DLC was planned a long time ago, while the trailers were made way after?
LOL, the trailers are the things they do first, Sakurai confirmed that with Joker's little anime for VGA.
>And the only connected trailers that are not in the same trailer are K. Rools’s and Banjo&Kazooie’s.
DQ's trailer directly follow the events of World of Light after Galeem is defeated the first time, that's why we saw Dharkon at the start of the trailer, but no Galeem.
So at the moment, the two CGI trailers we got are connected to other CGI videos from the base game.

Banjo is also a literal who in Japan. Fucking retard

It will be Master Chief or Doom slayer

Unironically want Sans Undertale and Phoenix Wright.

Doomguy or Master Chief
Sans

I never said Doomguy couldn't get in you spastic.

I don't know too much about Goemon.

>Oscar and not Solaire

>people think there won't be a stronk womyn
LOL

I think you missed the point dude.

I've played a few, but what would Dante offer, to smash specifically, that Bayo doesn't

Crash and Spyro
dont let anybody fool you otherwise

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>Pushing Reimu

Nintendo wouldn’t risk that

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I'd love for phoenix wright with a miles edgeworth skin!

BASED

Crash and Doom Slayer
Any other options are for those who don’t understand the importance of gaming icons

>Spyro
He has no arms to grab things with
>Crash
The more likely of the two

I see 3 strong women

you are forgetting the most important fighter here baka

Also as much as I love the Ace Attorney series it doesn't fit Smash at all.

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there are characters in smash who do not grab things with their arms silly

Edelgard is a lock because there are no other relevant women

These

Leon S. Kennedy
Crash
Sora
DOOM guy

These are the only characters left who are possible for DLC.

he didnt fit in MvC3 and look how it ended.

>Reimu for Touhou being the mother of indie games
You mean Sans, right?

What would they risk, phoneposter-kun?

there are only 4 good ones:
doomguy
crash
mr. nick
and ryu
everyone else is shit

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Jill

>Edelgard
>over Byleth or Sothis, the actual main characters
Look at this retard.

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Ivysaur has No arms either

>Thinking this is Playstation All-Stars 2

>doesn't fit Smash at all
OBJECTION
youtu.be/li7IkxgUt_M

Lolno

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Gimme doomguy

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I guess Isaac is an impossibility at this point. Oh well ;_;

I don't know why people are so big on Heavy, TF2 was great before the microtransactions but there are plenty of other shooterdudes I'd pick before him and his limited repertoire. Even in his own game he has no versatility.

What were they fucking THINKING with the Skylanders design?

Sans is beloved in both the East and the West, 2hu fanbase in the West is basically nonexistent

>another japanese swordsman
>patrician
Kys redditor

I'm more talking about accurate feel rather than realism.

Every character in Smash feels like they could take on one another because of how they are presented in their respective games. They fight and are capable to dying to grunts and when there's a cinematic match up, they take on larger than life bosses with a considerable difficulty curve. Even Bayonetta can die to the basic Angels in her game which translates to being harmed by Goombahs if she was in a Mario game.

Wargreymon has always been presented as too powerful, so much so that it would take another Digimon of unbelievable power to even phase it. It's the same reason why Goku wouldn't work even if he was an original videogame character.

Also MetalGreymon is too big, there's a difference between Ridley being a whole sprite taller than Samus and Metalgraymon usually being depicted as the size of the stage you're standing on

I really hope so

You don't even have the correct Capcom rep there. It'll be Resident Evil

Doomslayer (hopefully named doomguy but im assuming theyre sticking with latest incarnation as default) with OG armor skin, Crash would be based but he strikes me as a never ever. that said, banjo was a never ever too. heart of hearts i want Master Chief but that'd be absurd. Double FPS reveal would be pretty cool though.

If he doesn't get in this one yea there's no fucking way he's not in the next one.

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>no Monster Hunter
>no Heihachi
>no Resident Evil characters
This is in dire need of an update.

TLDR
shut up fag

>Sans is beloved in both the East and the West, 2hu fanbase in the West is basically nonexistent
That sounds a lot like Dragon Quest.
Touhou has had a massive impact in the industry and its influence can't be ignored. Meanwhile, Sans is a meme fighter who can't faithfully work in a fighting game. Touhou has had official fighting games before, so Reimu is a hell of lot more realizable as a fighter than anyone in Undertale.

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Ah shit, sassy afro black woman confirmed for smash.

What are the chances we get another ballot for character 5?

gimme classic doomguy

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>and Metalgraymon usually being depicted as the size of the stage you're standing on
bruh

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That doesn't disprove his point at all. Touhou is still the major progenitor of indie games, not Undertale.

Heihachi

>no resident evil
Dumbass

I really truly think it could be Goku, just to raise the bar one more time.
But personally I'd want Reimu and Ruru out of these.
I guess it won't be pic related anymore

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Do people really think Reimu should be in? You might as well ask for a Kancolle or Fate GO character at that point.

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>I want digimon in
>But I want the anime versions not the game versions because those are the ones I know

Take a shower

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>no new Kirby rep
Try again.

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>Wargreymon has always been presented as too powerful
Sure, but in the Digimon Rumble games it's possible to beat one using a fucking Biyomon. Who cares about this canon bullshit, mate?

LITERALLY who is the bitch with the bird

>just a guy/girl with a pistol
h-hype

>Sans is a meme fighter who can't faithfully work in a fighting game
R.O.B.
Wii Fit Trainer
Duck Hunt
Ice Climbers
Mr. Game and Watch

>comparing soulless gacha shit to one of the most soulful, labor of love franchises ever

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>its influence can't be ignored

Watch me.

I do because I think Digimon are too good for smash bros.

You get both, like the dragonquest rep.

>>But I want the anime versions
Are yu talking about the renders? I couldn't find the official Bamco ones. Why are you being so picky? It's not like they're different at all.

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>No Dante
Fuck off, dead weight.

Kid, nobody cares about Touhou outside of the porn and ERP. And some songs.

Reimu still has a lot more inspiration and tools to work with.

It's a good thing you're not making the game, shitposter.

Doomguy and Crash desu. Doomguy to fill in that FPS rep (even Sakurai himself thinks Doom is the Grandaddy of all FPS.) and Crash to fill in that iconic 90's rivalry between Nintendo Sega and Sony

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replace Morrigan with a more lovely waifu

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Dante was deconfirmed tho

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Speak for yourself, idiot. The latest Touhou game is in the top 30 downloaded games on Steam

Literally there's no difference, faggot. Do you even play the games?

>he doesn’t want OG jill valentine

Pretty much everything does the week its released.

Really?

You know, that actually would be a great pick too.

i swear to god 2b fags get one appearance in one other game and suddenly they want her in fucking everything, fuck this gay earth and fuck nier fans, give them an inch and they want the full foot of 2b's robofuta cock

Didn't they confirmed the DLC after the game launched

So what were you saying about people only caring about the porn and ERP? Because clearly you're talking out of your ass.

>not SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE dimitri

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Say it ain't so

Crash would be pretty cool to have. I can even see them using a live action trailer like how Crash commercials used to be

Half of the paths in the game revolve around Edelgard according to the Three Houses leak.

how

we need one more big body - gimme a heavy you cowards

>No Difference
Agumon evolves into like 10 other Mons in the games including Meramon.

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Sure DMC1 was confirmed but I think that was after Sakurai already contacted everyone for DLC.

Translation: I don't like it so nobody else should.

>Nakoruru
>Over Terry, Kyo, or even Mai
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I got a feeling Sephiroth will be one of the final DLC characters. The last known main villain casuals know and still talk about to this day getting in would blow up the net. The only character I can truly see however breaking everything is Goku, and even then I don’t think he’d get in

Doomguy and either Crash or a capcom rep

Reminder.

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Morrigan will be announced at EVO, releasing in October around Halloween.
Doom Slayer will be announced at the Game Awards, with a release right at the end of January.

Do not doubt me.

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THIS MATCH IS ABOUT TO GET RED HOT

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>Agumon evolves into like 10 other Mons in the games
So? His main digivolution was always implied to be Greymon>Metalgreymon>Wargreymon. When excluding the other Greymon varieties Plus, they're iconic. Why the fuck would I want him to become Meramon, Andromon, Betamon or Tyrannomon?
Plus, are you implying Greymon and Metalgreymon originated in the anime? You aren't are you?

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>Kid
This is how you know you're talking to zoomerscum

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I could see Sans being in. It's a very realistic choice given how popular Undertale is especially in Japan.

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For those who want a RE rep, Leon/Ada would most likely be the reps. Jill sadly doesn’t even get much love in her own games. She gets massively fucked over in them and only appeared in a few games, vs Leon & Chris and surprisingly Ada who is considered the female mascot for RE

Dude. You missing out. 2d platformer goodness. Only problem, japan only mostly.

Namco, for whatever reason, doesn't really like having it's characters in smash (besides pac-man who is a no brainer).
They probably think it'll cut into Tekken or Arcsys if they oversupport smash.

Even Gordon Freeman would make more sense than Heavy.
Hell, Ranger from Quake, the game where TF came from, would make more sense than the Heavy.
And then there's Doomguy, who makes more sense then any other FPS protag.
I just don't see it happening.

Nah, Morrigan wouldn’t be the Capcom rep. Capcom is more focused on RE and MH at the moment. If there’s another Capcom rep, it’s easily Leon or a MH rep.

Kris makes more sense. They would be advertising the sequel and he would be more easily translated to a fighter while not having Frisk's moral limitations. Sans is AT material.

What about Leon/Jill?

>no Amaterasu
>no Leon or Jill
>no Master Chief
>no Sora
>Goku
>Reimu
>the falcon girl

shit image. someone make a good one.

Leon and Jill are the most popular MCs. Chris is daddy capcom's little poster boy though so sadly it will be him

Leon definitely would be the RE rep. Jill id seriously love in, but she hasn’t been getting any love from Capcom in years. Hell, she’s the only protagonist to be infected multiple times and been MIA. After RE5 she’s locked up in BSAAs lab for experiments

>doom guy makes more sense then Gordon FUCKING Freeman
How?

Porky has a better shot than half of those characters at least

also, no Dante or Cuphead

I don't know, being the originator of the genre, being more installed than windows, being the reason why Gabe Newell made Valve in the first place, being on Nintendo consoles, being on calculators, being on RGB lights, spectograms and more, having a new game coming out (on switch too), popularizing modding and boosting the PC market into an actual existence.

You forgot the obvious choice OP

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Jill sadly isn’t as popular as she used to be. Capcom loves pushing Ada as the female Wesker, and where they feel the money is. Most of the devs stated Ada is their favorite in many interviews, and she always links to all the retcons they’ve been adding in the game for years. Hell, 6 is an entire shrine dedicated to her since everything revolves around her, and we STILL haven’t learned anything about her.

>muh sales
>shit music selections
>shit moveset potential
Resident Evil would work best as a boss rep, not as a fighter pass.

chun-li and her sub!

Nah, Banjo wouldn’t be the Microsoft rep. Microsoft is more focused on Minecraft and Halo at the moment. If there’s a Microsoft rep, it’s easily Steve or Master Chief.

Leon S Kennedy

Gordon Freeman (Nintendo requested a half life game and Sakurai LOVES hl2)

Crash Bandicoot

Sora

The final two will be from this list

God I wish he’d get in. There’s so many creative ways to add Eggman in, and Mike Pollock would have a field day recording lines for him, but alas I know it’s not happening. What I’m most shocked about is that Shadow wasn’t an echo. It was the easiest shit to add in.

Wolfenstein is the originator of the genre you fucking misinformed zoomer faggot. Go play your shitty le epic angry meme man reboot game

Well the last two characters were based on autism levels so doomguy and ryu

i don't understand this meme

Not him, but dude, Banjo was rallied by fans across the world and Phil gave the ok and pushed for him. Morrigan really doesn’t have that at all. She’s not even on the radar for Capcom games. If there was any other female Capcom rep to get in, it would be Chun Li

Wolfenstein is basically a Doom techdemo and Doom outsold its lifetime sales tenfold in a month while also putting FPS mechanics into a workable and still enjoyable state thanks to its extra data.

Nevermind that repping Wolfenstein outside of a spirit of B.J would be hard as fuck with all the Nazi stuff.

You know you can’t pull that off with Morrigan of all characters. I love darkstalkers, and I really wish Capcom would do something with the franchise instead of blueballing us every single time, but the series isn’t getting any love from them any time soon. There’s other Capcom characters that get a ton of fan support from, like Jill, Leon, Chunners, a MH rep. I’ve never heard anyone go on a Morrigan campaign. Hell, why Morrigan when you can have Felicia or someone like Jon Taliban?

>being the originator of the genre
LOL zoomer retard

>being more installed than windows,
Minecraft was more installed then banjo. Did steve get in?

>being on Nintendo consoles
Joker when he was announced

>being on calculators, being on RGB lights, spectograms and more,
Like minecraft.

>having a new game coming out
Banjo
popularizing modding and boosting the PC market into an actual existence.
Yawn. How boring and worthless

>go play the best shooter in actual years
uh, okay then, guess I will

You do know that after the Banjo reveal, The Mircosoft Trademark is there right?

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Pretty solid choices user. I can see Sora and Crash getting in easily as well as Leon.

Heavy is the face of TF2, but honestly if TF2 gets a character at all it has to be Scout.
>Moveset more easily transferable into Smash, with his high mobility and more suitable weapons
>Heavy's voice actor is pretty old, can barely do the voice anymore
>Scout's voice actor is basically the only one who can still do the voice
>Still one of the more popular classes, just not as much as Heavy

>pointless buzzwords
>muh exceptions
I guess the pilot from Red Ace Squadron is in because it wasn't installed a lot, has never been on Nintendo and is a total literally who that pretty much only I know about. I also guess the guy from Lego Island is in too.
See how this goes?
>like minecraft
Minecraft has never been on calculators or spectrograms
>Banjo
Joker
>yawn
That's because you're a boring person.

There is another...

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Unless you bring in Wesker as a character.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DLC template update here.

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>That little space for the songs
What the fuck

The lack of Arle and Travis Touchdown is upsetting, but Phoenix Wright would be hype for me.

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how is banjo a microsoft rep
barely anyone knows they own them and they havent done anything with the IP

Not him, but...

>Wolfenstein is a Techdemo.

seriously, Sakurai should put a questionary to check if people actually know about videogame history to allow them to play.

Doom wasnt even on the planning phase when Wolf was released! Wolfenstein 3d popularized the FPS genre as we know it, with HUNDREDS of clones and engine-derived games made before Doom was even a thing.

READ. A. BOOK. You moron!

This could be total bullshit but it's a fun theory to play off of.
>Resident evil/Dark souls after the Castlevania trailer
>Master Chief/Kosmos after the ridley trailer
>Ryu Hayabusa/Heihachi for the incineroar trailer
>Dante/Doomguy for the world of light

My gut says 2 of these
>Crash
>Resident Evil (probably Leon)
>Doomguy
>Dante
>Lara Croft
>Astral Chain rep
Wouldn't mind any of them.

>taking everything I say literally
Are you retarded?
I implied that Wolfenstein was a more primitive version of Doom, and once Carmack got more data he made something far more successful than it. Which in turn made even more clones than Wolfenstein got. This was a just a year after Wolf.

>it would be Chun Li
It would be Jill

>It would be Jill
It would be Amaterasu

you dont call Wolf a tech demo, not even implied.

yes, Doom improved on Wolf techwise, and Yes, Doom was more popular, but its clear that by saying that techdemo thing that you havent played Doom in your life.

Characters have to be relevant in both US and Japan so no doom guy or other dumb shit. Samurai already said no cartoon characters like Goku just wish faggots would fuck off with these notions. Travis Touchdown probably actually has a chance

>2 western shits
>Sora
Leon is the only justified character, banjo is a European series not a burgerland one.

>Characters have to be relevant in both US and Japan
fuck off with this shit already

Seems pointless to start guessing now since it'll be like 3-4 months before our next reveal.

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Travis got deconfirmed by Suda, he said maybe next game though.

No Geno or Rayman? Fuck off.

>Joker
Super popular everywhere
>Dragon Quest
Worldwide renown
>Banjo
Classic rare character games sold decently in all regions

I mean, the iron is still hot. Might as well.

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson Rulefags?

When’s the last time you’ve played RE? Jill hasn’t been a mainstay character in the series since 3 man. She was reduced to a mere side character in 5 and in Rev1 she got the fewest missions in the game.

Only females with a chance in hell are Edelgard and Lara Croft, and the former will be an Incineroar/Corrin tier mistake

>rules
lmao

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Relevancycucks got fucked TWICE
it WILL happen again
solved argument, move on

SC is too irrelevant to get a rep. First Tekken would get one.

You do realize Capcom has went in multiple interviews staring Ada is the face of the female RE reps right?

I have played Doom though.
I said
>basically a techdemo
It experimented with a lot of mechanics and design choices that Doom later took and perfected, vastly improving graphical capabilities since it had more memory to work with it, adding dynamic lighting and allowing you to move horizontally, etc, etc.
All while being impactful enough to make Gaben consider it the future of entertainment and Bill Gates to larp as Doomguy on stage, which did wonders for the genre and PC gaming in general.

Sakurai did say no Goku tho, and we already have Toriyama stuff in Smash

Someone needs to draw something concerning rulefags. They get blown out every single time

>UR WRONG
you sure showed me i guess with your great counterpoint

Nigga, sakurai will add whoever he wants in the game for any reason. He did this for Villager, Ridley, and countless others.

2B belongs in degenerate bait games like Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive. Here's a better choice

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I can't see Sony sharing though.

i have no idea how they are still going after banjo, a character that has made no appearances of any kind in the past ten years
is it autism?

>Characters have to be relevant in both US and Japan
The "No wastern shit" argument is fucking dead I love this. Thank you, based Microsoft

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>Nakoruru
What made you even consider this is beyond me.

Emo lovechild of Ness and Marth pls go.

But he's not even vidya, that's what Smash is all about

The paths already open'd to him
Smash now allows violent characters from different games, guns are allowed now due to joker and banjo is now in. Their is nothing stopping him from getting in smash

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People have been asking for Banjo in smash since forever faggot

Nakoruru a cute

It has to be. It honestly is baffling. Time and time again sakurai shows he doesn’t give a single fuck about rules and changes them on a whim, yet these rulefags continue to stick by this imaginative rules for smash.
God this. All rulefags kept mentioning is that banjo can’t get in because it’s western shit,

This. First of, nobody gives a fuck about Samurai Shodown and the new one isn't even coming out for Switch. Terry would be the only logical SNK rep, if they ever got one. But there's way more popular fighing game franchises that didn't get shit so far. And then there's still Chun-Li.

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imagine the remixes
IMAGINE the remixes

I really want him in but I don't want these shitposters getting their retard taint on him like they did with Banjo.

Pic related will be THE LAST DLC, i'm sure Sakurai is friend of the guys working at JapanStudio.

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I’m not even talking about Goku nigga. I’m talking about taking anything sakurai says about rules is stupid. The man knows where the money is. He will add ANYONE he sees fit into the game. Anyone. Remember how people were broken about the plant getting in? That rule got broken.

It's Doomguy and Ryu Hayabusa, face it.

>new one isn't even coming out for Switch
Q4 2019

Banjo kazooie is European still no ameritard series in smash is there?

And rulefags have stated he can’t get in because he’s owned by Microsoft and because he’s a western character. For years people claimed no western character would EVER get in smash.

Crash and Spyro.

Stop calling me a negroid

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>Who is Dark Samus?

Nakororu is SNK's mascot in Japan you retard, if there's someone from SNK with good chances, it's her and Kyo.

Listen here Tien, you’re enlightened, so you know for a fact that Sakurai will change any rule at a whim. He doesn’t give a fuck. If the money is right, anyone can get in as long as sakurai likes it.

>N-no, we meant AMERICAN you don't understand, when we used that argument against Banjo we meant that uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh... SHUT UP

>Metroid is a Japanese series
Keep coping

It’s Crash and Travis Touchdown
Screencap this.

>He doesn’t read official statements

FE and Metroid are not in so cross those out. They explicitly stated all 5 new characters are from franchises never previously in smash.

>who is Shovel Knight
Also Banjo is an western series my dude. Get over it

I'm ok with this.

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Where the fuck is wonder red and Advance Wars

if they explicitly said that I'm sure you'll be able to give a source lol

LOOK AT ALL THESE AMERIMUTTS

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HOLY SHIT SPIKE FROM APE ESCAPE CONFIRMED THEN.

Dark Samus was a western created character.
>Retro Studios, Inc. is an American video game developer and subsidiary of Nintendo based in Austin, Texas
Your move chief

>Travis
user, i...

Tien confirmed for Smash?

>Metroid Prime is a wholly American series

Checkmate Atheists

I'm italian...

Who cares, sick of smash, smash sucks and anyone over 15 can see that

This girl.

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Where's Kasumi? She's the face of Koei Tecmo, which has been helping Nintendo for years now with Hyrule Warriors, FE Warriors and Other M. She seems like the most obvious choice.

He would be amazing just for his move set alone.

Original series was made in Japan therefore anything made in that series is of Japanese descent. Rare is European that's as far west as sakurai will go. Cope niggers your big guns movie game burger industry faggotry will never touch smash.

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The Heihachi costume isnt in Ultimate

>gets a female character in there too.
but we already have Kazooie

Is it our time Doom bros?

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>goku

where the fuck is porky

Master Chief

it's a lock
the last slot is the mystery one

inside the ASC spirit

>Crash is a failed mascot (even if he somehow is more popular now than when his franchise was active)
>Nakoruru is literary who
>EVA-01 & Goku are not video games
The others maybe. Doomguy seems like a bad fit tho and Lloyd would probably get passed over for a more recent Tales game.

Put Ammy in it

>EVA-01
Chuckled

>crash won't get in because he's a failed mascot
do you analyze the things you type before posting them?

Kazooie doesn't appeal to waifufags, only furries at best.

Ammy isn't a woman, she's a GOD

GOD is a woman

no chance whatsoever

>Goku
lol
>Doomguy/Doomslayer
Patrician choice
>Sylux
Would be cool but I don't see it happening with how many third parties the fighter pass will probably have. Also Metroid Prime sequel never
>Reimu
I wouldn't complain but this board would implode
>Lloyd
Would be cool but I also don't see it happening
>Edelgard FE shill pick
Fuck you this will never happen and if it does I'm killing myself
>Chosen Undead
Great choice but it would be weird seeing him jump around in that suit of armor
>Unironically, actually literally who
Who is this?
>Spyro
Once again would be cool. Kinda indifferent on him
>Crash
His fans kind of deserve it but I feel like it would be a sonic situation where his moveset would be kind of empty
>Phoenix
Would be great with his MvC moveset
>Ryu
I'm indifferent but would be nice

Master Chief, Nintendo had to make a deal with Microsoft to get Banjo after all and this is the price.

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>Unironically, actually literally who
>Who is this?
Nakoruru, a character from Samurai Showdown. idk why OP thinks she has a chance

>Style Swapping, kind of like Shulk's neutral B but would allow him multiple different attacks with firearms or melee weapons, dashing or parry-counters
>Weapon swapping
This'd only be if Sakurai went nuts with him, but it's honestly the best way of handling Dante. Also considering Dante's weapons are entirely different from Bayo's, barring the guns and sword.

Soul of Cinder

>Dramatic orchestral Final Destination-like remix of BFG Division

Fucking IMAGINE hearing something like that.

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Expect:
Jill Valentine and Lloyd
Want:
Nakoruru and Doomguy

why would they add this faggot over doomguy? doom has:
>history on nintendo consoles and one nintendo-exclusive game
>a major upcoming game that launches on switch

the deal being
>hey you get a bunch of revenue for a property you're just sitting on

Chief is way more iconic.

Fuck Crash and Spyro. We need Phoenix Wright. Come on Sakurai, I know you wanna do it.

>Chief is way more iconic.

Halo literally would not exist without Doom you fucking moron.

Steve was more "iconic" than banjo, look how that turned out
Doom is just the superior option in every way

Daily reminder that Sora was and is the most wanted fighter for Super Smash Brothers, and now that Banjo and DQ are in, no matter your shitposting, he will be in this one or the next, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

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Doom literally would not exist without Commander Keen and Wolfenstein

I want Pheonix Wright and Travis Touchdown.

Also OP is a faggot for not including Travis

..okay?

The final characters are Leon and Doomguy.

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reminder that dante is too mechanically complex to be represented properly in smash

>doom
>THE game to waste time on on the office computer
>halo
>some game your kid played on his xbox
lol

Why do people not think Nintendo is going to pick an indie rep?

Hornet to promote Hollow Knight Silksong WILL HAPPEN I FEEL IT

he is inevitable

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I love Phoenix Wright, but come on user. He’s at the lower spectrum when it comes to other Capcom characters and doesn’t have a rally of fans pushing for him like others.

Shoo shoo, hitagi

Realistically speaking only
>Doomguy
>edelgard
>spyro
>crash
>ninja gaiden
maybe
>Sylux
>phoenix wright

the rest are a bunch of literal who's yes, even reimu. you can't deny it.
Ds is well known but never ever

>Bobby Prince and Mick Gordon teaming up to make kino remixes
I would never doubt Nintendo again

His legacy is very iconic and crucial for genre for sure but the character itself isn't. Put Chief and Doomguy in the same pic and everyone and their mother would recognize the "halo guy" first.

>halo
>some game your kid played on his xbox
Perfect choice then since Nintendo's games are focused towards kids.

obviously only the cartoon characters or the anime style characters

You aren't exactly wrong but it's not Halo Infinite that's getting ported to Switch on day one.

mii costume
that would be great and that's why it has a 0% chance of happening

I haven't played smash since the N64, but it really surprises me that with the current roster having like 6000 fighters that Crash hasn't been added yet.

If you're trying to be realistic, Doomguy and spyro are literal who's in Japan. Reimu is fair game since Touhou is mainstream in the East.

Doomguy and geno
its the last two limits to who can be in smash left to be broken
Ultra violence and utter obscurity
if those are broken LITERALLY ANYONE can get in beside goku, and even he's in now

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They only care about money (see Joker/Persona's case), if MS throws enough advertising money i'm sure they'll add him since Nintendo/MS are good pals and all.

stop trying to make this argument a thing, it will never be a thing

>Byleth is the final DLC
the sick part of me wants to see it happen just to see the fucking internet break

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>Put Chief and Doomguy in the same pic and everyone and their mother would recognize the "halo guy" first.
nah even my 70 year old dad knows this face

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>let's advertise to an audience that is virtually guaranteed to not buy an xbox

I think you're forgetting somebody.

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In Smash 6, maybe

Don't we have confirmation that the only reason he isn't in is Disney?

Didn't you know? Microsoft has gone multiplat now, Halo Infinite is coming to Steam. It's a well known fact that the vast majority of Nintendo users also play on PC.

Disney already said they're HAPPY to allow him into smash.

So they would put that sprite instead of pic related, correct?

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I have no idea. Hope not because "Doom Slayer" design is shit.

Yeah, it'll be his face icon during matches and it'll be the first one with animations

People would probably push the other classes more if they had a cool fanmade render like heavy does

Both original and this one

Doom games on Nintendo systems:
SNES.
Game Boy Advance
Nintendo 64 (An Exclusive as well)
Switch (2 games. One being an upcoming release.)

Halo games on Nintendo systems:
Cancelled Beta for 3DS. (Basically 0)

GEE I WONDER WHICH ONE SAKURAI WOULD CHOOSE. THE ONE THAT WAS PROGRAMMED BY JOHN CARMACK WHO HE AND I QUOTE SAID WAS "THE FATHER OF FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS" OR A LITERAL KNOCK OFF.

YOU ABSOLUTE STUPID FUCKING NIGGER.

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>"nintendo relevance" meme still going somehow
wtf

doomguy is the superior choice regardless

>>>>>Kyo
Terry

>Halo games on Nintendo systems
Master Chief has a much Nintendo relevance as Cloud or Joker. The likelihood of a character being added to Smash isn't proportional to their number of games on nintendo systems.

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>Muh Minecraft

IDIOT. DID YOU NOT LEARN FROM STEVEFAGS PUSHING THIS ARGUMENT.

Why are you yelling tho?

judging by that Jap list the DLC is
>Joker
>Hero
>Banjo
>Crash
>Sora

Cloud's franchise had at least been on Nintendo before and since its first entry.
Joker and Persona are an offshoot of Shin Megami Tensei, which was also on Nintendo in its early days.

I like Halo but I don't think Chief is at all likely.

Because any argument against The Doom Marine getting in over the knock off is pure bullshit. That would be like Yooka and Laylee getting in Smash over Banjo and Kazooie. That's a fact. The original has much more priority than the predecessor.

Doomguy came first. Doom popularized the FPS genre. Doom is one of the most iconic Western games in history.

You just know that if Chosen Undead gets in......
Solaire and Union bro are alt costumes.

Too good to be truth.

Lloyd and Phoenix.

>how is banjo a microsoft rep
Because they had to approach Microsoft in order to use the character?

Give me Monster Hunter and then anyone can have the last spot. Even more FE shit.

Unironicall going to be that fire emblem bitch with the axe
Sakurai is going to be like "you wanted axe person right?
Plus since nintendo picked the dlc fighters, they more than likely view smash as a fire emblem shilling game

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Bro calm down we've all gotten 3rd party so far. There will not be any fire emblem.

The last fighter pack was mostly third party too
This is fucking nintendo, you think they're not going to shill something?

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>These are LITERALLY the only options left
You forgot Miku.

namu

If Doom Slayer gets in Smash does that count as shilling Doom Eternal or putting in an iconic rep?

Kazooie

its shilling when they force a first party rep from a series that's already represented

also why i thought banjo was in for a long time. you have all these niche spirits but no banjo.

This. Kazooie is the snarky tomboy we always needed in Smash

>uses the word icon
>pretends not to be a zoomer

good because coalburners don't belong in smash

Goku was already derconfirmed and he will NEVER be in, replace him with Sans

Both. Doomguy's an iconic character who also happens to have a new game coming out that Bethesda wants to advertise.

based
he was already in newgrounds rumble, smash is possible too

false. We saw him in Brawl, Ganondorf and Bowser somehow let his ass loose during the Subspace Emissary.

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>Guoku
>Halo man
>NGE
>Touho
>anime man
>literally who
>Game of Thrones dude?
>literally who
>furries
>Leorio
>Ninja dude

What qualifies any of them?

Wasn't there a leak that said Doomslayer and Ryu would be the last fighters?

If you're including Western appealing reps, it's only fair that you include Jap appealing as well. We have Erdrick in, after all.

Confirm, not decide. That means they finalized the 3rd party deals, which takes months if not years and is the reason Sakurai is saying they might not be able to bring everyone back next game.

Honestly dude after Banjo I'm beginning to not trust all that famitsu and poll shit. If Sakurai wants Doom Slayer to shill Eternal and pander to Boomers who grew up with Doom, fuck it.

Mewtwo was and he still had a trophy.

Hopefully soon brother, hopefully soon. He is a square enix rep, and we think there is going to be another one.

>No Master Chief
>Expecting anyone on this list but FE shit, Crash and Doomguy to get in

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>Microsoft got their rep already
And what says they can't get another? Chief is there mascot, the fact that he isn't in when Sega, Namco and Capcom all have their mascots makes no sense.

Sony doesn't own Crash. Activision does

Because that would be considered unfair to the other third-party devs who worked on the reps. That'd be like being given only one piece of pizza at your own birthday party while the kid next to you gets 3.

>Halo literally would not exist without Doom you fucking moron.
That means fuck all. Chief is outgrew Doom and Halo is more iconic.

He really isn't

>Ignoring the fact that Halo was and still is one of the most well known console shooters and was marketed to adults when it first released

>Because that would be considered unfair
The other third party devs save Namco all have more than one character in the game, how would it be unfair? Also
>unfair
Devs don't give a shit about what's fair unless it cuts into their profits, which unless they were promised a character spot, it wouldn't be.

Let me say this so you understand you absolute DIPSHIT. Putting MC in Smash before Doom Slayer would be like putting Yooka Laylee in Smash before Banjo Kazooie. Sakurai literally said himself that John Carmack, the fucking lead programmer of Doom, is "The father of FPS" and basically thinks of him as an idol.

sourcegaming.info/2016/01/21/sakuraixnomuraparttwo/

Doom came first. It takes priority. Do not make the same fucking mistake Stevefags and Sorafags did.

All Sakurai did was give the guy his due, that means fuck all for characters in Smash. Fucking Dragon Quest is the father of JRPG yet look how long it took for that shit to get in. Cloud got in first because Final Fantasy was more popular the DQ world wide, and the same applies to Halo, even if Halo isn't as that popular in Japan.

>Doom came first. It takes priority. Do not make the same fucking mistake Stevefags and Sorafags did.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that unlike Steve, Banjo was a popular Smash request. Chief, while nowhere near as much as Banjo, has been wanted since Brawl, to the point where people have modded him into the game. Doomguy literally JUST started picking up steam with Ultimate. In the case of Erdrick, that again has far more to do with DQ's popularity in Japan than it's age or significance.

By no means do I think Chief is a lock, but he's far more likely than Doomguy, especially with Microsofts foot already in the door.

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twitter.com/franklez/status/1076911083909132289

From Frank himself.

Frank O' Conner also deconfirmed the existence of Halo 2 Anniversary.

Grant Kirkhope lied about Banjo not being in despite making the Spiral Mountain remix

People are allowed to lie under NDA.

Unless a Halo game gets announced for Switch, he will never fucking get in. There is literally no fucking reason as to why he should be in over the original fps rep which is fucking Doomguy.

Mewtwo was not decided during the planning stages before any work had been done on the game. Listen to the devs ffs, they said for this game the full roster was decided before anything else, something they don’t normally do.

It's not a question about who's 'worthy of getting in' anymore. It's a question of 'who's worthy of being the last character reveal'. That alone disqualifies a lot of people (Felix, Shantae, etc. are all a lot less hype than fucking Banjo and DQ). It has to be something big, probably with an up-coming title. I could see Doomguy, I could see Chosen Undead. Hell, Goku would be extremely hype as well. There are not a lot of options to top what we've seen, and that's probably what they're going to go for.

>listing fucking Goku
>not listing Chrono or Sora

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>Unless a Halo game gets announced for Switch
Sakurai has already said being on Nintendo console does not matter.

>There is literally no fucking reason as to why he should be in over the original fps rep which is fucking Doomguy.
No reasons to YOU. And that is your problem.

based
Edelgard with an empress alt

WHERE IS TERRY

You forgot someone.

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uhh you DO know we have TWO more character reveals right? Shantae could easily be the 4th reveal.

Halo would not exist without Doom. That itself is enough of a god damn reason Doom Slayer deserves to get in over MC.

Doom popularized the FPS genre.
Doom is the reason games like Half-Life, CoD, and Halo are even around.
Doom is one of the most revolutionary games in history.
Doom has had 4-6 fucking games on Nintendo. One of them being an exclusive.

qz.com/1490069/doom-the-game-that-kicked-off-a-video-game-revolution-turns-25-today/

Doomguy deserves the slot. NOT THE FUCKING COPYCAT.

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so let me get this straight Rayman who was added early as a spirit an Shantae who was added late are both considered inelligible because of two completely opposite traits.

Shantae is a half genie with light magic.

>dead
Zoomer hasn't learned already that with K Rool and Banjo such argument doesn't mean anything.

Mewtwo has arms and he doesn’t even use them for items

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Crash and Spyro
The fact that banjo made it in increases my hope

Reimu
>Indie AND shmup rep, inevitable female character, unique moveset potential, huge in the East and still going strong today after 20 years
Doomguy
>Grandfather of FPS, has more history with Nintendo than someone like Master Chief, new game in November, Western appeal
At least that's what I'm hoping for. Wouldn't be too surprised if we ended up with one of the others in that image instead. Or Leon/Porky

You.
I like you.

there's a chance
Crash
youtube.com/watch?v=36qwmaIFbJY

the 4th ones of both of them look about close

Doomguy and Crash. Crash isn't really a Nintendo character but man would it be sweet to have the cereal box mascots all in this game

C'mon user, don't act like you've never heard of him before.

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>he has no arms and legs to grab things
Duck hunt, and ivysaur grab items with their mouth. Spyro even had opposable thumbs in the new game

Hoping for Phoenix and Doomguy.

And a second season pass.

So was Banjo before the announcement lol.

How is he not in yet?

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because he's not the Wright choice

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If there ends up being a second pass, I suspect it will be smaller like 3 fighters probably

All but confirmed. I expect a smash direct once again after evo announcing her and then one around November for the one year anniversary for sylux

Adeleine and Agumon

I've been playing games since I was 7, that's 20 years ago
I never posted in a smash thread because I dont care about the game
I dont know half of those characters

>Goku
>No Sans
lol

>doom guy
>more iconic than master chief
>The original has much more priority than the predecessor.

what you're saying is similar to saying that it would be impossible for cloud to be in smash before the hero from dragon quest does. I'm 100% certain that most people would even mostake doomguy with master chief.

I genuinely expect Dragonborn to get in
Elder Scrolls sales up, Skyrim already on Switch, and Todd memes for all.

This makes a lot of sense to me as well, and explains why they're saving it until last. BK was hype, but nothing will capture the zoomer population like "Dragonborn Gets Ported to Smash".