How do I beat the mahjong substory in kiwami 2?
I've looked at the basic mahjong rules but starting with 1000 basically means you have to win the first hand and then manage to get enough points in barely any rounds
I know there's an item to cheat, but I'd rather do it normally
How do I beat the mahjong substory in kiwami 2?
Just get tenhou.
just use the peerless tile bro
Wait a minute, is this like that Zelda curse that doubles my magic?
It's the curse that makes it so you only win if you play stupidly.
It's simple, really.
You need to understand what sort of hands you can form and what to aim for during each round. The game is just as much about winning as it is about not losing.
1) Do not chi unless you know what you're doing, i.e. it's very easy to form a winning hand
2) Do not pon unless you're specifically going for triplets
3) Pon the second you can get dragons, prevailing wind or seat wind as this will allow you to leave with a winning hand
4) Do not get tricked into hoarding Red Doras because you'll self-limit your options
5) Destroy your hand if it means avoiding getting ronned - sometimes you can figure out what the opponent has
6) The game will not give you a Riichi prompt unless you specifically check for possible actions - use a Riichi to really boost your score because it doubles the amount of dora indicators if you manage to complete your hand this way
7) When you have the option to Riichi, consider which tiles might be discarded instead of going for the highest number of potential winning tiles because it's easy to never actually get those tiles
8) Read the discards! After a while you can guess what the opponents are going for and which tiles can be safely discarded
You also need a bit of luck.
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is this a ruse?
isnt this substory scripted so you win with your first hand?
Do all Komaki substories in Champion District. You will get the peerless tile. Use it when you start the mahjong substory. Take the first option. Instawin.
no I've tried & you just get dicked, you can cheat to win it though
Here's your starting hand, bro. It's six shanten minimum
The cheat item disappears after you use it so there is no evidence left behind. ITS NOT CHEATING WHEN THEY CAN"T PROVE IT.
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Oh know it's a thinly veiled Mahjong thread and more power to you bros but were there any announcements for new Yakuza ports and localisations yet?
Nope. Awful E3. Just wait for Tokyo Game Show
Even less honors and terminals but still 6 shanten? Say no more.
What a tire fire. Try your best for a dragon pon and fold at the first sign of danger. This hand's going nowhere fast.
Quick question. Why I can't declare victory?
Only 3 of them for a play. You need to win regular games.
i just used peerless tile
where are you supposed to take this hand?
because you havent won
Almost all my hands have been those and slight variations in 5 or 4 shanten with many annoying penchans and difficult to improve much with calls if any even. Only once yesterday I got a great starting hand, a two triplet two pair hand with two dora that I immediately ponned to get to iishanten for quick toitoi and was stuck iishanten all the way to the end of the second row of discards when someone else got ronned. It's suffering.
You don't have a winning hand.
It's the south round so your east triplet is useless.
Good for a story, but for platinum you need win tournaments.
OK, what's wrong?
In your case, it's no yaku. Probable issue: you though the east win pon counted, it doesn't as it is the south round and you are the north player. Wind pons are only worth yaku if they match the round or your seat. For reference, first turn goes to the dealer who is East, then south, West, North. Rounds are in the same order, but Riichi mahjong almost never goes to the west round.
>tournaments
its just a regular game but the opponents have new names and much easier to win since everyone starts with 25k. no need to save peerless tiles for anything else but the quest
The tournaments really are just normal games.
Won both rather easily by just not sucking too bad and a bit of luck
OK, 2player is South, so I'm North and I need to collect only North Wind tiles?
>we don't want rando discordfags and chinamen among us
>he doesnt know
As a nerd, I have never before been confronted with unintelligible gobbledegook jargon up until now.
I now understand and sympathize with normies when they don't understand what I'm talking about when I start discussing incredibly obscure and convoluted scifi shit.
Either seat wind (you're north as you said) or round wind (it says south in the middle).
The rest of the winds give you no yaku.
south works too
Thanks
>all last
>ahead with like 12 k
>opening hand has triplet of east wind
>aite ez game lets just pon chi kan ron our way to victory
>get to tenpai
>no yaku
>realize I'm playing a south game
>have to switch from tenpai back to 3 shanten to try & get half out of hand
>manage to get back to half out of hand with an open pair wait
>get fucking double ron'd
>all last
>ahead
>still pushing a trash hand that you just fucked up
>you lose your first place only thanks to ura doras
>realize I'm playing a south game
east shitter, everyone.
I'm not sure how the points in this game work with double rons, but that might have been the case
paypiggie hit 1 ura dora, bringing him to 4han 30fu, which is 11600
other person had 3han 30fu which is 5800
paypiggie got 7700
other person got 3900
when combined this is 11600
so I assume you only lose up to the highest hand you get hit by & then it's divided among them
if I was hit for 5800 & both got 2900, I would have won yes
OK, again, Last move - I anounced CHI and got the last triplet - bamboo 2-3-4. Why I can't finish game?
>so I assume you only lose up to the highest hand you get hit by & then it's divided among them
dude, what?
Sorry, wrong picture
BTW why CHI, but not TSUMO?
what yaku do you have there?
Here, just take this.
Get one of these in your hand or you can't win.
See You have no yaku, also if you're on android play maujong instead of whatever shitty client you're playing now
stop fucking calling so much, it riichi mahjong not chi mahjong
if everyone got full points, I would have been hit for 17400, but I got hit for 11600, which is the value of the highest hand I was hit by
What you're saying doesn't make any sense, can post a replay?
>4han 30fu, which is 11600
>3han 30fu which is 5800
You're counting both as dealers
Open hands Ain't free. The east and silver rooms gotta be litterd with the blood of no yaku players. Riichi aka no-chii is not my hand. probbaly tsumo as well :DD. Dora and tanyao not pinfu and iipeikou ok. praise the cat.
ah fuck I see now
if I were to get hit by 2x 3900 I would have tied first place
me & paypiggie would both have had 32500
what happens at that point? do you share second place
wait no, paypiggie riichi'd, so he'd get an extra 1000 back & still take first, rip
>what happens at that point?
You get ranked by seat order.
so E>S>N>W?
would have been fucked too then, rip
I've lost too many games to betaori in all last when I'm first
whenever I try that shit dealer seems to win 4 games in a row
Tiebreaks are won by whoever had (or would have had) their dealer turn first.
>I've lost too many games to betaori in all last when I'm first
You're going to lose a lot more by pushing when you shouldn't.
>Tiebreaks are won by whoever had (or would have had) their dealer turn first.
after the tie break or from the start of the game?
What yaku did I do here? Triplet of dragons?
Yes. Any pon of dragons is a Yaku. Not a high scoring one but at least the hand can win.
I eventually gave up, I refused to use the peerless tile.
Baibai juso haipai
>scores a fucking sanbaiman on east 3, 60k points
>actually deals in enough for me to lead with 34000 points ahead
He is not even a poncat, he is - may the magical sands forgive me for uttering this word - a nyagger.
You don't need to restrict yourself to wind yaku, there's other yaku in the sea.
nice censoring skill
should cover the eyes next time
From the start of the game. If you tie with the person who was dealer in E1, they'll win the tiebreak.
aite thanks for clearing that up
Again about this situation.
So, my mistake was to collect a pair of dragons? Any other pair of NOT dragons and winds and I'll get All simples Yaku?
Yes, or you could get a full white dragon triplet and any other pair.
Just to be clear though, all simples can't have 1 or 9 (terminal tiles), so your pair would have to be of any number tile between 2-8
I REALLY hate that tileset
Just wanna say XIV's tooltips are very nice when playing Mahjong
>finally reached master yesterday
Took me way faster than expected, but last few gold room games were lucky as fuck for me.
How I look by stats? East for bronze+silver room, South entirely for gold.
Anyone wanna play some mofuckin friendlies?
pretty good
Who knows, let's try
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standard hanchan, GET IN HERE
This is the only minigame I haven't finished on K2. I didn't realise that I had wasted cheat items on an easy game and normal game. I at least used it on the quest but now I'm fucked because this game is confusing as fuck
Just learn mahjong
3/4, better fuckin hurry cuz this room is filling RIGHT NOW
I JUST CAN'T. I'M A COMPLETE BRAINLET WHEN IT COMES TO THESE GAMES
we need ONE PLAYER TO PLAY MAHJONG WITH US IN THE MAHJONG THREAD
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Its a bug of a game or I did something wrong? Where is my WIN button?
>tfw want to get back into XIV to play mahjong
wtf bros
Should be a tanyao sanshoku win. Doesn't look like you're in furiten.
you have an open sanshoku so you should be able to win unless there's shenanigans like 2 minimum han or you are furiten.
Yeah either you enables some meme ruleset by mistake or the game's bugged, that should be a win.
Got dabbed on hard, gg.
>watsoncucks think he's getting in instead of steve from minecraft
Use peerless tile. You can get it from Komaki. I didn't understand jackshit about mahjong (still don't) and I just used that and won immediately
>Tfw finally expert and now afraid to play
It hurts.
Another Yakuza thread ruined by ERP sluts...
What are you talking about?
but i thought this was a mahjong thread thinly veiled as a yakuza thread.
shut up user
Really solid, especially high win rate.
Sorta motivated me to push my own shit to master.
where do you see your id again?
Afaik you will stay on expert, even on 0/1200. Get your sands and fuck them chinamen up user.
In "friends" menu, it should be somewhere on top.
under friend tab
I was under the impression you could drop back to Adept 3.
aite guys what tiles do I need
im pretty sure you can only lose stars, not actual rank
3 9 sou
123789 gets you in tenpai right?
>WHAT IS NEW GAME PLUS
you have a Legend playthrough anyway, plus every table except Hard is really fucking easy.
fuck that's quite the iishanten wait
surprised I didn't get back into tenpai
I had 2man pair btw, but tossed it to try & go for chinitsu, since I was in fourth & quite far behind on all last
if you had three green dragons i think that would be a limit hand
Not even close to a ryuuiisou
fug
One for the substory, two for the tournaments. You just have to win one of each regular match apart from that, which is easy.
>ride the flow
>get 4 little winds
How does 4s and 5s work? I was trying to figure them out but I just can't see it
Oh wait now I see it, it works with one of the 3s
should I have chii'd any of these btw?
whenever I get a hand like full flush I'm never sure what to call (unless it's obvious) because I'm not sure what fucking tiles I need to win
you need 14 full green tiles
that hand currently has 2 333 4 6 8, or a total of 7
5 is discard 2, tenpai with 4s single wait
4 is discard 2, tenpai with 25s multiple wait
>ryuuiisou
ah it takes sets, i couldn't remember (because i've never fucking seen it lol)
Someone make a room pls
standard rules mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com
You don't.
>riding the tiny dick train to victory
>finally get a hand worth something
>someone else tiny dicks his way in
fuck
Yep, I guess I'm dropping this shit
heh, tanyao
>hit with a 1k ron in all last to bring me from first to second
damned
>6 han dealer dora'd
wew
isn't it 5?
dora 1
red 3
prevalent wind
Dealer's wind
pff, if this is enough to send you off, then good riddance, becasue you wouldn't endure bullshit that's taking place on tokujou and further. At least this one had his hand open.
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south standard
3/4
4th place comebacks are the best, aren't they?
I would have ended up second without the Ura.
People really need to hold back on kans if they are not going for triplets or similar Yaku, I think. Or are in a really desperate need for a draw or something.
I only kan for fun when playing with Yea Forums bros
I have actually done a 4th kan at times to kill ridiculous hands and force a draw. There was a game where 2 players disconnected after that.
I always kan in tenpai since it's literally a free draw
I hate when I am playing 'good' but can't get my ass to tenpai (Always in isshaten), but still don't deal in other player's hands, and then get 4th place due a Baiman Tsumo when you're dealer.
>holding kan until tenpai to make a kan+riichi combo and scare the shit out of everyone
DRUNK MAHJPNG
At least for me.
GET IN FAGSZ
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>KAN
>MOU IKKAI KAN
>RIICHI
2 places are still open, GET IN
Baibai, kuso haipai!
ONE PLACE what are you waiting for ?
Or you can just get the peerless tile that is literally one floor above the mahjong parlor, on the floor in the office.
full !
gg wish my chinitsu had worked out
MOU IKKAI
Baibai, kuso haipai!
*sproink*
I tried bros...
why didnt you fold
betaori is for pussies, i also stopped caring in 4th place with that low of a score
>betaori is for pussies
damn right
Tsumo.
Chin Itsu, Toitoi, San Ankou, San Katsu, Aka ichi, Rishan Kaihou...
>when the last discard is your winning tile and pushes you into 1st
RON RON RON ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>not getting 2348 kan with green dragon pair
What game is that ?
My first few games on expert were intimidating but it's not that difficult. Just fold more often.
Baibai, kuso haipai!
this pleases the autism
Baibai, kuso haipai!
>game is just two people ronning each other and tsumoing
>never deal in but can't get any hands going all game
>suddenly other player who also hasn't done anything all game gets a dealer mangan at south 4
>knocked into 4th
these are the worst type of games
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south standard