First impressions of the actual gameplay are out

>change him into a skinny soiboi so numales wouldn't feel threatened

As we saw in THE FUCKING 48 MINUTE GAMEPLAY DEMO, there's contextual 3rd person.

Dragons Dogma

Never played that one

Unironically makes me sick
but also I really like seeing my character’s outfits and being able to see what’s going on peripherally

>create an old man
>"hey kid"

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>people want it in gameplay
>they give it in cutscenes
I don't give a shit.

>if not the monstrous depth the Dark Souls
Souls character creator sucks ass though

>game journalists
Who cares?

fucking soi response no one gives a shit about that

Elden ring will be better

>First impressions of the actual gameplay are out
>It's clear that systemic racism
Ah, yes priorities. Demo is out and the first thing you do is this shit.

But first person is the worst perspective

>I really like seeing my character’s outfits
This is why we need working mirrors again. And functional reflections.
As for peripheral vision, I'd argue not seeing everything and benefitting from impossible viewpoints is more immersive but to each their own.

It's not like they get to play the demo. They simply sit there and watch someone from CDPR play it. They can't record it only take notes.

youtube.com/watch?v=kld8VBugIeI

>”I left the demo feeling like I had played many games like this before”
Aaaand there it is. Cyberpunk 2077 is basically going to be CDPR’s Red Dead Redemption 2: it’s going to be beautiful as hell to look at, but ultimately you’re going to be doing the same shit you’ve done in hundreds of other games. Definitely going to wait for a hefty discount on this one.

bullshit. or you haven't actually played red dead 2, which has game design that has been eclipsed even by ubisoft games.

I play in the 2nd person

See It's an immersive sim done by a competent team in an interesting setting.
If you were hoping for some genrebreaking new game that sets the bar for all future vidya to come you'll be disappointed. If you want more Deus Ex shit Cyberpunk might be nice.
I feel that at this point the game can only disappoint because the hype train has been building for five years now

Kill yourself inbreed nigger. It's not my fault you don't like the fact, I'm just the messenger. Cunt.

>"hey BOI, what to train with me?"
your answer:

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So you watch others play?

Name literally one, ONE, (1) groundbreaking idea you have that to push the first person shooter genre forward. Go on, I'll be here.

>Mass Effect
>you literally only customize the face and hair
play more games retard.

You play as the rifle and have to hunt for soldiers who will use you so you can fullfill your purpose

I tell others how to play my games for me

>creating non-canon characters
you played yourself, fool

Power move

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Alright, you got me, cunt. But I came here to shit on the autist, not laugh.

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>obscene budget
What did he mean by this?

More Triple A actors instead of good gameplay?

>As for peripheral vision, I'd argue not seeing everything and benefitting from impossible viewpoints is more immersive but to each their own.
FP is definitely more immersive but the lack of peripheral vision is a bit too much of a sacrifice for me

Bummer. They definitely weren’t saying that about RDR2

Wow they actually said something that wasn't sucking off the developer. They did their fucking job for once.

sound like gay hipster shit, NEXT

Wrestling games. Haven't played them since ps2 but some of them were insane

>systemic racism is still in play
of course it is with whytoids still around

>he listens to game journos

>"we want more Deus Ex/nuPrey/immersive sim games"
>"well, here you go"
>"b-but it also has to be X, Y, Z etc."
Yea Forums and trannies never learn

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>feels like deus ex
I'm almost certain he means nuDeus Ex, but fuck it I'll take it.

I'm getting some Dishonored vibes from this and I can't really say why

"You can beat the game without killing anyone"

>pacifica
>haitians
What the fuck.

Everywhere I go
Everywhere I read is the fucking same

>But what about the social critique?
Im beginning to read shit and looking for slightly problematic stuff just to anticipate what the bitching will be about?
Attractive Tranny? Bad due to beauty standards
Ugly Tranny? Better not read resetera
Attractive female? Perpetuating the patriarchy and sexualization
White male protagonist? Boring
White female protagonist? Why not Black?
Dystopian future? Does it explore gay issues?

seriously, im becoming mad
Im starting to think like an sjw but without the absolute lack of rationality that they possess
I wish I could go read about something, somewhere, without thinking about this shit but my sanity is slowly crumbling and its all due to fucking Yea Forums posting kotaku and twitter screencaps all day long
I need to get the fuck out of this place, its ruining vidya for me

>"You can beat the game without killing anyone"
That was Deus Ex: Invisible War's tagline, though.

So we've been implanted with Silverhand's chip before the game starts?

Congrats, you're realising your being PSYOPed into either hating or becoming a tranny with 24/7 exposure to them

It's no surprise.
Why do you think so many people don't want to live around victim groups? It's because you don't have to deal with their grievance culture bullshit and the very thinly veiled attempt at extortion/guilt tripping it actually is.

There are working mirrors, so the model is there.

>rehashed souls with even shittier combat
>better than anything

I've convinced myself this weapon in the release date trailer is the laser thumb from Johnny Mnemonic. If I can use that, I may fly to Polishland and thank them personally.

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Deus Ex of the modern age GOTY 10/10

Pretty obvious. But yeah awesome thats its in-game.
Also Johnny Mnemonic is a great 90s cheesy cyber Keanu kino

who gives a shit what a gAmInG JoUrnAliST thinks?

>if not the monstrous depth the Dark Souls or Mass Effect systems have
so it literally has a few hairstyles to choose from and less than 5 skin colours

Ok, explain this stupid shit to me.
Why in the FUCK would you want a game that's
>fast paced
>heavily requires immersion
>aspects of the lore and ui are facilitated by first person and add a lot to the game
>focuses on verticality, allowing first person to shine more
>requires first person on dialogue to allow the interactive dialogue system that can change dialogue depending on things you notice and click on the background or in the characters
>heavy use of guns

literally what the fuck do you gain by the game being third person?
Having it third person would mean cutting so many cool aspects and features of the game just to fit what your personal concept of what an rpg should be, which is absolutely fucking retarded because most if not all of the pc rpg games of the early eras were rpg crawlers, with more recent games following that trend such as deus ex and vampire.

In the case of elder scrolls, it remained first person forever.

I seriously don't understand this fucking autism.

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>politically correct gamer

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>monstrous depth of the Dark Souls
But it's terrible in all of the games though

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i dunno man i just heard other people complain about it so i thought id chime in lmao hahaha

>playing with presets
you have not played at all, imbicile.

>3rd person games aren't immersive
based retard

First person is more immersive for the setting and type of game.
And even if you autistically try to argue that there's still all the other reasons.
And just WHY do you want this to be third person?
What does it gains from that when it loses so much?

>traany sjw "journos" are not impressed by this bigoted patriarchal white supremacist game about cyberSlav
Aww, so cute, i almost care.
That said
>pastebin, screenshot
Thank you for being good OP, OP.

>> if not the monstrous depth the Dark Souls or Mass Effect systems have

what did he mean by this? just thinking about it makes me laugh

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Generic filler gameplay like the witcher 3, and i don't think the world would be good

I think his criticism of
>Distract or kill guards with Press X to feel awesome setpieces
is very valid, tranny shit aside. Sounds like a very generic videogame with high production value and not the second coming of christ that CDPR hyped up

dragons dogma, black desert, saints row 3, rockband 3, monster hunter world, fuck these people really don't play games

I can’t wait to play this as a super racist character.

>we hyped the game to the moon
>looks like it isnt going to live up to the hype and will merely be a good video game

Gee who'da thunk it

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Oath

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if you think a game is second coming of christ tier instead of a good game with high production value at best you already fucked up

>Wake the fuck up Samurai. We've got a nigger to burn.

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Being unique doesn't equal being good. Question is, does CDPR execute well?

no

CDPR never executed well

Exactly what I thought. These retards have hyped dark souls up so much they forgot what was good and shit in the game.

You act like TW3 was revolutionary in any way and they had some sort of legacy to uphold

>> It's clear that systemic racism

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>muh motion sickness
>can't stare at my waifu's ass

this was the last time they spoke as friends
pottery

I heard Andromeda has a detailed CC that lets you do all sorts of stupid shit except white people

Maybe so, but good immersive sims are spread out so far apart, I'll take it.

>kill frog niggers
What's there not to like?

I think he's alluding to the fact that Haiti is on the Atlantic side of the Americas

I see. The article says that the neighborhood was a rich project until investors pulled out and Haitians moved in.

Why did I move here?
I guess it was because of the weather

>monstrous depth the Dark Souls or Maas Effect systems have.
So you just pick from a few faces and hairs huh. That's a shame

>be me
>get sick from first person camera movement
>ask if it can be modded
>some triggered autist on a Chilean wasp bandolier forum spergs out a wall of angry text
i just want to enjoy the game like everyone else user

IMAGINE wanting to play a game where you watch someone else do things.
IMAGINE not understanding the concept of role playing in a role playing game.
Imagine. Imagine being a Mass Effect/Souls kiddie.

Sounds nice.

WWE2K 2016

except you’re already a fully voiced and predetermined character LMAO

>create an old man
>"hey kid"
>play fallout 4, """roleplaying""" as a middle aged dorkadoofus dad
>"hey kid"

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I've been hyped since this trailer in 2013.
I know CDPR won't disappoint.
youtube.com/watch?v=DvVjkqB3LH0

Is there dual-wielding? I want to run around with a machine pistol or blade in each hand

W-wait, 1st person?
But i want to see my boy V, not just in cutscenes

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They rebooted the game 3 times and the teaser wasn't even made by cdpr which also explains why the atmosphere in the other trailers is so different

>ray tracing being forced into the game
>literal tranny with a hardon in one of the example pictures
>cannot make this shit up

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I mean if it's a game where you can kill people, you can just lift your gun and blast away.
That's what I'll be doing at least.
2020, or 2077.

Not know the difference between a tyranny and a futa, kys my man

if mass effect had a solid creator you could make more than 1 good looking character for both genders.
you cant.

>no tits
>huge hands
>edgy haircut

That's a tranny my dude.

>tranny
look at this newfag

>3 small options
>OMFG RPGS ARE BACK BOYS

yikes, needs more background choices

this is what you get when the industry is concetrated in a US State that has places that are

Dark Souls does have a lot of needless sliders for character creation. It's just too bad From game characters look like total dogshit regardless.

Imagine being such a brainlet
Imagine not knowing some of the best RPGs being 3rd person.

And now you know why /pol/ is the way it is. These lunatics used to be mocked and thrown in mental institutions. Now every company on planet Earth panders to them when they're less than 2% of the entire population.

but beeing up close in the fps perspective ruins my immersion way more than controlling from 3rd person. it isnt life like AT ALL

This is going to be the greatest game ever made.

>play and finish in april
not even half a months worth of content?
lmao

show me one game that is not generic open world
that has hundreds of hours of content.

Stop being obnoxious.
Not every game needs to be third fucking person. You are an autistic childish faggot for crying this much about it. Imagine if every third person game people raged about the fact and cried in every discussion about it that it should be in first person.

You'd scoff and say those people were stupid crybabies, wouldn't you?
Well, while those autistic people don't exist, we've designed them in the hypothetical now today for you.
>Pot, meet kettle

When will you learn to not ever trust gaming journalists? retard

I hope it sufficiently indulges my muscle fetish.

any multiplayer game

>artificial content

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nothing artificial about my brain chemicals sweaty

replaying the same map over and over is not content

>Cyberpunk 2077 doesn’t present like a revolution in game design, and I don’t think that’s CD Projekt’s goal.
Thats cdpr in a nutshell. generic game design but with lots of padding

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I guess they already had too many Peruvians in atlantica

it is cool, too bad it's not cutting that guy to shreds

no, the tards say at first that it is a character creation screen. But later say that the gameplay takes place halfway through the story. They do not understand that it was a character customisation feature in V's apartment.

it is when i use my imagination and change my playstyle regularly

Imagine losing the genetic lottery as badly as this fellow.

Instantly cutting enemies to pieces is a anti-gameplay feature that forced MGS Rising into complete redesign

>a setting where physical augmentation is a significant element
>the third person models are totally available
>lol we just won't let you use them when you want
Nope.

He means the budget for the game is very large.

kill yourself

>create my old man human character in DA:O
>start game
>my characters father looks way younger than me
>everybody calls me "pup" for being the youngest in the family
>mfw

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what do you mean by anti-gameplay?

Good third person models =/= good animations

Rockstar took another year to add first person to GTA5 and it wasn't perfect, and I can't think of any other game even remotely close to GTA5/RDR2 third/first animation parity.

What would third person add to the game?
You can still see your character in menus and hopefully mirrors.

Making third person work well would require altering the level design away from claustrophobic and vertical environments. Not to mention making additional versions of cutscenes and character interactions. It'd also not work well with malware infections or other effects messing with your vision.

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Yea Forums and Yea Forums in general just would have it seem like this is all anyone ever talks about since 50% of thread starts are just screen-caps of SJW whining about stuff on twitter. It's counter-propaganda and you're taking it in, completely one-sided, constantly, day after day. Eventually it'll feel like homo-bi-trans-reprensentation and black handicapped gender politics is all anyone ever talks about. In reality it's not.

> if not the monstrous depth the Dark Souls or Mass Effect systems have.
This might be the first game I preorder in 7-8 years or more, and I still had a good chuckle at this. I really hope it's nothing like either of those fucking joke character creators.

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Now that is definitely true, but with the production values they've already displayed and their previous work we shouldn't need to worry about their ability to animate properly. They have to do it for cutscenes and all the NPCs anyway.

The end goal of dark souls /me character creators is for people like critikal make some blue alien type thing for laughs.

ah yes, Dark Souls and Mass Effect, the pinacle of character creation
game journos everyone

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I don't like first-person walking in video games. I've played first-person games for decades and have never particularly liked the movement.

They literally aren't, I can barely play through horror FPS. TPS horror? Lmao what the fuck nigga that ain't scary

That's because w*ite "people" don't exist anymore in the year 2185.
Thankfully they had been fully eradicated by the year 2025

Please explain. Sounds interesting.

Honestly doubt this is a pro tranny thing so much more of it is as an artist who likes dick girls. Idk mang, do people who make hentai support trans rights?

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>>seems pretty fun to me boys
Fixed for me.
>>it can only disappoint because I have hilariously unrealistic expectations.
That's unfortunate for you. Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying a pretty fun game next April.

White people are fascinatingly weak.

I just don't like it. It's always felt very unreal to me. I can put up with it situationally, like with the Portal games, because those are short and are basically aiming simulators, but lots and lots of moving around is annoying. At least it doesn't make me nauseous like it does with some people.

>retards attacking those who claim Keanu was a smokescreen to protect a blatantly shit game
>sure enough, it's a shit game
They are, or they wouldn't make for 99% of crossdressers.

It takes you out of the game. First person only works in VR, when you're actually in the game interacting with the proper controller. It's limiting the view, the actions, everything. You'd think in first person you'd have more direct control over what you do, just like real life, but it's the opposite, it's janky stifling bullshit.

Instantly crippling if not instantly killing around like 80% enemies is against the the game flow of challenge-growth-mastery you need for good combat design.

Is it BREATHTAKING?

oh no I cant see my female characters ass

Why dont connect a dron flying in your back to your eyes so you can live in 3rd person you retarded fuck.

What color of shitskin are you?

didn't have to be revolutionary to be the best rpg of the decade

DDDA, BDO, TCGR Wildlands...

>production values they've already displayed and their previous work we shouldn't need to worry about their ability to animate properly
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sounds good to me, glad I preordered

Wouldn't third person take you out of the game even more? No matter how you look at it, seeing events play out from a ghost camera floating behind someone's back is way more unreal.

V looks cool

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Don't you have a crowd to bomb Abdul?

I have no idea what any of those fucking acronyms mean.

If that's your opinion of their animation then the entire game will look like trash since, again, they have to animate everyone who isn't the PC at all times as well as the PC in cutscenes.

but what about exotic implants?
If they put dickgirls and not catgirls i would be slightly upset

Witcher 3 has some shit third person animations. Geralt's default run animation is so fucking bad. Also animating a cutscene that player has no control over, and actual third person gameplay are VERY different things. The NPCs will also be very limited in what they can do vs a player, and NPCs tend to look janky anyways

First person mech game where you control it with manual cintrils like a tank and you fight giwnt monsters. Think of titanfall but less streamlined and slower. Also bigger. Destructible inviroments are a must.
Might make for a good vr game now that I think about it

No because I am like a puppeteer pulling the strings, I see my avatar, I know with perfect accuracy where they are, what they are doing, their distance from an object or the ground or both, I can control them perfectly. In first person you don't have the same amount of detection you'd have in real life.
Think of racing games. I've had a license for years, I can drive with a stick, I don't even bother with first person because it doesn't feel as good unless you have vr and a proper wheel.

No. I'm always less immersed in first person because the unreality of motion and field of view are more immediately disruptive to me. In third person you are explicitly viewing as a camera and expect smoothness. Either perspective gives you visual feedback for your input, so that's not an issue.

Thats is a Just edit.

>In first person you don't have the same amount of detection you'd have in real life.
Unironically get good

t.white

>being a puppeter instead of the puppet
What a fag. The puppet is really in the game the game, the puppeter not.

retard

Concerned at how city design looks from this image alone. It has those same washed out empty streets that GTAV and SR3 had.

You have a good point, but these retards act like drones and will ignore everything you say.

Not that user, but what's that got to do with anything? You're not in the game in either perspective, and in first person there often isn't even a puppet.

>no load screens
How would they mask it?

>Muscular female V

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This. Also look at all these fps subhumans seething at you, lol.

>Seems pretty generic to me boys
Witchers strength was its detailed world design, interesting story and meaningful characters. Its hour to hour gameplay was absolutely forgetable. None of those positives can be seriously shown in a 20-40 minutes demo, less so given that pleb journos don't even look out for that stuff.

ingame it's called a monowire

Same as playing a medieval RTS.
You can see everything in God mode from above and make orders but the soldiers on the field are really playing the game, like Mordhau.

>cherry picked behind the curtain "gameplay" doesnt wow "journalists", content creators and influencers.

how fucked are they?

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The main complaints of this game seem to be
>first person
>resetera fags and trannies seething over white males
>s o y game journalists saying it plays like a typical RPG

So it’s 10/10 goty then? God damn I’m more hyped than ever.

First person doesn't improve self-inserting, mindset does. Otherwise, literally all haremshit or manga or any power fantasy in general should be in first person, both drawn and written. It isn't because people know how to self-insert.

At least the trailers and music are based.

>V's background actually does something
Doing better than most RPGs already

>everytime you go to bed at night you wake up with a shota

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>this post
Why so many fucking ESL here???

>A short walk through the district puts the poverty on full display. These aren't the rain-slicked neon streets of cyberpunk I'm used to. These streets are littered with dirt and trash. Neon is rare. Buildings are a drab grey-brown.
NOOOOOOO WHERE IS MY AKIRA AAAAAHHH

Games are for real people, not journalist. The way they talk and the ammount of trying to being different makes them weirdos.

its like (((journalists))) complained about the latest Godzilla movie that it focused too much on big monsters and not enough on human interaction

Where is the combat vid?

>today Yea Forums learns cdproject arent great devs

So VR dont improve self-inserting?
Also its better for the gameplay.

Sorry you hate real cyberpunk games like Deus Ex. Stick to FF7 consolekiddy.

? Dark Souls character creations have always allowed you to customize the character way more than most RPGs with CC

3 options that matter are better than 10 options that don't

Its ARK tier to make meme abominations, but shit for making good looking chars.

I enjoy this kind of perspective shifting more. You get varied feelings of control. When I play something like the 3D Bethesda crap, I switch perspectives even though everything moves like a malfunctioning Disney robot.

>There are people who will REEEE at tranny shit in a cyberpunk game
>An entire genre that has often explored the idea of gender and sexuality in a world where a body can be mostly or entirely artificial with interchangeable parts

I fucking hate this board.

t. conselefag

yawn, rdr2 did it

welcome to the cyberpunk setting sir, things are supposed to be decadent and depraved

bros i want a tranny gf to buy games, clothes and pay their rent

transhumanism /=/ transgenderism

You weren't even alive when there were real punks around raising hell.

Really weird how everyone forgot about the tw3 and gwent debacle

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That whip animation is fucking dumb and we all know it.

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Depends honestly.
EvE and All Points Bulletin

Transhumanism goes hand-in-hand with transgender shit because transcending humanity means having to redefine or reinterpret inherent human concepts like gender and sexuality.

If corporate faggots don't like it the chances are much better for this game to be an absolute 10/10

Terraria
DqXI
Tons of jrpgs

cutting your dick off isn't transcending humanity

>Review from a paid advertiser
I think the game will be good, But i don't need this mongoloid telling me so

Elevators, rooms that serve no purpose but to close when you enter it and is big enough to load the rest of the area while your in a near-empty transition room. Cutscenes.

But they're the most easily impressed norlmalfags out there, if they say it's meh it is probably meh.

They seemed hyped last year, I imagine they just saw more of the same and went "okay".

>gwent debacle
Good thing gwent is a dead game now

Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have to have revolutionary gameplay to be the GOAT.
It will be similar to Witcher 3: It will have a solid gameplay, but the gameplay will not be what makes it the GOAT; the story, the characters, the dialogue, the world, the music, the environments, the graphics, the side quests etc. will. It will deliver in every aspect a game should in a spectacular fashion, that even if the gameplay is nothing revolutionary, it will still hold itself well and make the other great aspects shine and make it the greatest game of all time.

deciding to be a "woman" doesn't make you happy, fag.

Which ironically is what’s been wrong with all the previous movies. Same as transformers.

Instead of monsters/robots it’s some Jewish actor (((hollywood))) wants to push as the new leading man.

Black Desert.

youtube.com/watch?v=4TP4L1vHfpk

How is that relevant to what he said?

I've once read the policy for the implementation of "social change" into a university, right around the time things were getting the way they are now. And their explanation explicitly details that they don't want you, yes you, the average white guy, to have a safe space, somewhere where you can relax and forget, for a while, about the things they are pushing, they want you to see it everywhere, in everything, because they believe this will eventually break you and get you into their fold. No I'm not lying or joking, they detailed how on top of forcing sociology classes into every course, those teachers would weave into their classes the narratives they wanted, ask for students to give out examples, and those that ever dared disagree with the narrative, would get "reeducation classes", that the propaganda should be everywhere on the campus, including on the dorms, that the other students would be incentivized to talk about it on their spare time.

Well, it turns out they were making the same thing with just about every entertainment industry.

>the story
stop

But they aren't impressed by quality games. They have a catalogue of things that are acceptable to get excited about. Obviously the progressive social politics are one part but also really gay and colorful artstyle (Zelda, No man's sky) or "hey I know that" like Super Mario on a background poster or some "easter egg" like that. Journos and youtube faggots also weren't impressed by Kingdom Come Deliverance and that was one of the best games to come out in the last ten years.

trannies are mad about this though

this is probably the main reason why it doesn´t click with me.
first person combat and movement is just very limited with almost no real room for upgrades. they could have done all kinds of cool stuff in 3rd person however

Well, CDPR doesn't want you to see him.

The game sounds real good actually. The systems are very well done and it's all released in a very polished way, on top of being a full RPG, but not truly innovative.

The only thing that disappoints me are the hacking examples. Hacking some lame random thing like exercise equipment o kill a single guy. I'd rather do something more tactical, ambitious, and smart so I can potentially feel like a tech god. Being just a physical badass sounds way more fun.

>and make it the greatest game of all time
Chill. The Fuck. Out.
Jesus Christ

what?

Sense of identity is a recurring theme in cyberpunk stories so honestly trans people and whatnot goes pretty well with it, as much as I don't like it.

>but it has the expected hair, skin, and facial feature options,

>cannot have puffy vulva

what the point?

Witcher 3 is the greatest game of all time in my book. I have good reason to believe Cyberpunk 2077 will top it. I ain't chilling out

>the story, the characters, the dialogue, the world, the graphics
hahhhahahahahahahaha

the story (of the base game) is trash

since it's everywhere it shouldn't be too hard to pinpoint the source of all of it then

you're trash

>Witcher 3 is the greatest game of all time in my book
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HE IS ACTUALLY SERIOUS

>he thinks he's actually doing something himself in the game
fuckin new age gaymers lmao

like specific people and legal entities

I know right, what a controversial opinion to have... NOT. I swear, the contrarian faggots are so fucking full of themselves it's hilarious.

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Don't bother arguing with lorelets, they're the same people who are complaining about there being too many niggers but are completely unaware of the mass immigration into western countries due to most of the Middle East and parts of Africa being radioactive glass.

It does but it's a gimmick that will never take over because it requires massive hardware power and a gimmick controller, until it becomes mainstream like "you can find one in your cereal box or all consoles have it" it won't take over.

>modern shitters overrate everything to validate the shit they mindlessly consume
We know, look at movies.

Transcending humanity would imply transcending gender as well, not just switching it around.

Dig deep enough and you'll find almost one specific family that controls everything, including the creation and control of money. For them every single group is just a puppet, from the untouchable jews to the hated democrats in the US and the lawmakers in the EU parliament. Any group can be just burnt down because they were always meant to be tools in the best situations and meat shields if anything went wrong. You'll see them being cited at least once in the Clinton emails.

cope

Good thing Witcher 3 isn't even the best game in the series.

Well the first immediate step is media.
So what's the next step after that? hmmm.

I saw the most amount of journalist "hype" for the SE conference coming from the avengers game. They are worthless.

I know right?! TW3 is the best game EVER!

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>Cyberpunk 2077 feels like Deus Ex with an obscene budget and Keanu Reeves.
I'm completely okay with that.

it literally and unironically is, no matter how many times you post your cherry-picked webms

Maybe, doesn't change how bad the story is

yes, it sounds to me like a description of perfection

Why the fuck would anyone expect "revolution in game design" from CDPR? Ignoring some aspects of W1 (read: combat), they've only made the most generic, by-the books games imaginable.

>5 złoty have been added to your account

People wants a polished game, like rdr2, not something like ubisoft games

Yeah, which is not bad at all. In fact, it is great

if you read between the lines like a person with an average IQ of 100 you can easily see that he basically calls it generic industry standard trash.

>unironically wanting Cyberpunk: Mankind Divided
oh no no no no no no

>cyberpunk dystopia
>degenerates everywhere
>everyone is surprised

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If you're completely fucking retarded and think shit like Ciri isn't bottom of the barrel garbage, then sure.

You mean the original story of the superhero who must defeat the big evil guy who wants to destroy the world? Yeah, it's that good that put to shame the terrible witcher 2 story.

Nice selfie, user.

>systemic racism
do these cunts ever stop complaining about natural real world happenings

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I think they meant monstrous as in the faces you could make in Mass Effect or Dark Souls could be horrifying.

Mankind Divided's problem was that the open world was too small and boring. Cyberpunk seems to be a massive upgrade from that with a big city with lots of interesting stuff in it.

How many RPGs have you killing off regular-sized mooks in a single hit?

Ah yes, instead of a tiny and pathetic open world game with nothing in it we get a vast and completely vacant open world game with cod-tier gunplay. What a step up, user.

are you okay, user?

being a contrarian doesn't make you interesting

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>They rebooted the game 3 times
Any sauce on this?

Where's your argument?

just take a break from the internet. it helped for me and now I wanna take another one

WWE games have the best character creator of any game by a long mile

Are you suggesting that TW3 isn't made up of "endure the gameplay until the next cutscene" moments? The moment-to-moment gameplay was absolutely dreadful, the combat especially was just plain bad - it was somehow less satisfying than bamham AA's AND managed to have less system depth at the same time.

I can't wait for WW3 and I hope it's a nuke frenzy.

Dragon's Dogma, Black Desert Online, google the third.

It won't happen, there's too much at stake, from both sides, into maintaining the status quo, the "elite" is betting everything into automatization and eternal life, they are absolutely scared shitless of dying and are incredibly superstitious. The other side, namely the chinese, russia, some islamic segments and some pockets in the US and EU know they can't win a fight against said elite. They are just trying to get as much control back before humanity is doomed.

Like I said, redefinition or reinterpretation may be needed. What would "transgender" even mean if sexual organs could be bolted on or unbolted, in multiples and combinations even, on a whim? Is "signaling male" or "signaling female" even a thing if everyone is some kind of androgynous chrome body? Maybe the concept of gender, as an expression of a biological sex, is treated like fashion--where it's no longer pragmatic due to advances making actual human biology irrelevant and it's done just as a social or status thing.

Fuck if I know, but it's a fertile area for discussion in cyberpunk stories.

>imagine thinking this game is for you and not based normies
Keep crying incel faggots this isn't your game and it was never going to be

You mean the same journalists who got access to try VTMB2 and played like this?
youtube.com/watch?v=_oYJAnhvgNk

I take ANYTHING a journo shitter says with a grain of salt.

Right, but transhumanism is about becoming something BEYOND human. Transsexualism or cutting up your dick and replacing it with a cyber vage is not at all transcending humanity.

This is highly true. My normie friends are in love with it.

You know what happens in reality? Prostitutes are pressed into getting freaky sex augmentations and then indebted to their pimp for life. High class brothels with chrome sluts service corporate CEOs and they'll never know they're getting their dick sucked by what used to be an elderly man.

It’s going to be ME all over again, don’t get too excited

This
t. normalfag

I'm unironically hyped about Watch Dogs and CoD as well

Thank god

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>flawless
never said it was, just that compared to other games it is simply better
>something popular is not good
>when many people of different tastes like something it doesn't mean it's objectively good because I hate it

Refer to

I guess Marvel movies are the objectively best movies of all time in all of human history then.

Doll joints. Round ball joins on the shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips, knees and ankle.

Where are my doll joints CDPR? I want to make my fem V into a cyborg doll alright. Don't fail me now.

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I don't think you understand what transhumanism is at all.

Explain why the story is a masterpiece

Because when the mary sue daughter did that one thing she clapped really hard.

I'm too all for playing normieshit if it is well made. The new CoD and Watch Dogs looks good. Hell, Breakpoint looks pretty neat as well. It looks like Wildlands 2, but I had decent time with that, so sure. I'll check it out.

Cyberpunk looks like it's made with huge budget by people who are really passionate about it. A game genre I like in a setting I like by the developer I like. Fuck, I'll pay sixty bucks for that any day.

I understand it's a bunch of pretentious circlejerking about the potential of technology to change us. Unfortunately I'm more of a believer in posthumanism. Humans will never change for the better. They will merely change.

Trasnhumanism is about becoming something more than human, not simply becoming a different human.

>Explain why the story is a masterpiece
The argument is that The Wticher 3 game as a whole is better than all other games currently on the market due to how good it is. You can't just say that a specific part of it is a masterpiece or not. A video game consists of different parts such as gameplay, story, designs, etc and how you mix and match those is what makes a game great. People have spoken on forums and polls and many other voting platform and has determined that The Witcher 3 is currently at the top. It's just that simple. It's not perfect, but it's better than others.
In terms of entertainment? Yes, yes it is. People genuinely got excited to see the story unfold and many, many other people shared that sentiment. You might rate movies by artistic value or camera angles and what not, but it is meant to entertain people and people have spoken.

removing you npcs together with the degenerates would make the world a better place

>inherent human concepts like gender
>gender
>inherent

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At first I thought that you were just baiting, but now I'm almost certain that you are genuinely retarded.

>Retards gobbling up any slop that has the Marvel name on it to look trendy to their normalfaggot friends
>user somehow thinks this means the movies are even somewhat entertaining
Holy shit Witcher 3 fans are actually fucking retarded. Literally worse than fucking Nu Wars fans.

>something more than human
Something arbitrary and ill-conceived. What is more than human? Do you imagine humans becoming better because of invention? How naive. No, technology is just a tool to be used and abused by humans. Humans will not become more than what we are, just different from what we are. There is nothing greater or lesser. It's all just a lovely comforting sophistry.

You dind't explain why the story is a masterpiece, or even good. Eat a dick.

>Retards gobbling up any slop that has the Marvel name on it to look trendy to their normalfaggot friends
Captain Marvel is publicly hated and was known to have made its sales by the studio paying tickets for orphans and others while Endgame has many positive comments from people watching it. I'll say it again, being a contrarian doesn't make you interesting.

WHERES THE LEAKS

I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE LEAKS

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It's at least rebooted once, the script for the original game leaked in like 2014/15. What we have now is entirely different.

>Neon is rare. Buildings are a drab grey-brown.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It amazes me what a pseud you are.

there's only first impressions of the new game demo available. Also we'll get to see more stuff on August anyway so why leak it.

Ah yes, this 1/10 exception really erases the 9/10 times where the complete opposite happens. Amazing argument user, truly spectacular.
Kill yourself you subhuman shill

Marvel movies are like Big Mac. You eat it, it's fine and it does its job. It's fast food. Nothing special. And I sure as shit don't get riled up if I see someone chomping down a Big Mac.

What exactly did they expect from this game in terms of mechanical innovation? You shoot, you drive, you sneak, you hack, you talk, you use augmentations... What more do you want from an Open World Cyberpunk Action RPG? A dog breeding simulator? A heart surgery minigame? Mechanically it seems to have about everything you'd expect this kind of game to have. Even in the gameplay demo last year it looked basically like Open World Deus Ex. Which I think is a great fucking premise.

>there's contextual 3rd person.
Then it's even worst because that means the anims for third person are there, it's just them going on fps mode which is retarded considering you can drvie the card in third person. They should give players the option to play the game in any fucking way they want at this point. Also haven't seen anything new. It will be good but for how they have been selling it the last years i was expecting more.

>everyone in this thread

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One, transcending humanity is a gradual process made with incremental scientific breakthroughs. It's a slider, not a switch. Where would you even draw the line for "I am beyond humanity"? How are you going to define that?

Two, how is treating sex or gender like a set of clothes you put on for the day, making old definitions obsolete not transcending humanity?

Yeah and it's awesome. Pleasure dens where the old "busted up" whore is just the oldest model that doesn't have some space age pussy and doesn't have the prostate resonator. Or maybe they're a quivering mass of dicks and vaginas that spurts some topical aphrodisiac periodically. Is it gay if you find out that the sex worker with programmable appearances for every female model years 2080 to 1970 that you're pounding into also has a dick retracted into their ro-body? And they used to be a 40 year old man? Does it even matter?

This would fall under Yea Forums's umbrella of "tranny shit".

Dream on, naive dreamer. The future is a darker place than you can fathom.

Pot calling the kettle back, YOU sound pretentious, if technology merged with humans make humans smarter, stronger, more resilient and immortal, then yes, those wouldn't be humans anymore and they would be better than humans by several metrics. Faggot.

>Food analogy
Marvel shitters are braindead.

Fuck that. If youre gonna show gameplay to a select group, then youre really just asking for someone to leak it to everyone in shit quality.

I hope someone recorded it with some pen cam. CD red should have learnt from last time.

Smart boy.

anything that angers trannies on the internet has turned out great

Journo overhyping another trash huh.....first anthem now this??

Yes I'm sure everything ties up in a sweet little bow in your narrow view of such technology. The reality would be much different. The powerful and the affluent would use it to raise themselves up and deny it to the average individual. Technological demigods ruling over a serf caste of lesser beings. That's not even a worst case scenario. You overestimate our species' willingness to share nice things.

sunbros, we were to cocky...

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>reeeeee stop liking things!!!!

>BD
>character editor
Except you're always locked to your class' basic look.

Fucking wizard will always be a withered old dude, witch is always a fucking loli, berserker is always some weird as buff dude and so on.

BD has NOT good character editor.

Jesus Christ, I wasn't making any sort of ideological statement, I was just explaining the term to you.
How is turning yourself into a different animal transcending animalism?

>V is 23
>deliberately create a face as far from canon as possible
>surprised when it backfires

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The cyberpunk genre is full of sociopolitical commentary, are you a fucking cretin

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

>overhyping
if anything they actually shat on the gameplay, try to read first before you post

The article is implying that Haitians only moved in and are poor as shit cause of racism.

>reeeeeeeeee stop having opinions about something I like that aren't exactly like mine

I'm quite aware of what it means. I'm challenging the root concept. It is an overly optimistic view of technological progress. Cyberpunk is not optimistic. It's the opposite: Jaded and cynical. It's the epitome of "WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYTHING NICE EVER HAPPEN?"

Also look up David Reimer

Mileage of cocks per day?

I have a very bad habit of calling my coworkers "son" and "kid" despite being 22 and the youngest one in the office fuck off.

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Thats because the actual models are shit but the amount of options you are given are very generous

>in your narrow view of such technology
It's not narrow, it's pragmatic, you can throw your pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo crap all you want but it doesn't change that by the very tools that we use to accurately describe the world, technology can, is and will make humans past what we call humans.
>The powerful and the affluent would use it to raise themselves up and deny it to the average individual. Technological demigods ruling over a serf caste of lesser beings. That's not even a worst case scenario
You're retarded AND ignorant, I never said the percentage of people who would become post human, and they WOULDN'T need anyone else, they already see the lower classes as less than cattle, and they won't need them anymore, there's no reason why the lower classes would be kept around.

How is it optimistic in any way? It's not portrayed as a positive.

it doesnt matter if the overarching story is not original. what matters is the plot itself, how the events unfold and whatnot. and all of that was great.

Play e.y.e.

I've given multiple examples where human biology and physiology is irrelevant, but you keep talking about how it's just more humans. Not to mention that your comparison is actually retarded.

>A common feature of transhumanism and philosophical posthumanism is the future vision of a new intelligent species, into which humanity will evolve and eventually will supplement or supersede it. Transhumanism stresses the evolutionary perspective, including sometimes the creation of a highly intelligent animal species by way of cognitive enhancement (i.e. biological uplift),[5] but clings to a "posthuman future" as the final goal of participant evolution.[48]

Turning into another animal, a different species, is actually the point.

How about this; you give me an example of what you think a true transhumanism is.

>it's pragmatic
There's nothing pragmatic about chasing the illusion of ascension.
>the very tools that we use to accurately describe the world, technology can, is and will make humans past what we call humans.
Oh wow how impressive, it does what evolution does but with metal bits. How powerful.
>You're retarded AND ignorant
Sure boss, you keep believing in some bullshit about becoming "more than human." There's no such thing and never will be. There's human and there's not human. We're not transneanderthals, are we?

I fucking hate pervasive opinion that everything is either great or fucking atrocious. It was fine. It had some flaws and could be janky but it worked it was simple and did its job fine

I don't know who's more illiterate, you or the other douchebag I replied to.
Here's my quote:
>How is turning yourself into a different animal transcending animalism?
Do you understand that this is a comparison and I'm not actually referring to transhumanism?
Let me make another comparison:
>how is going from one liquid to another change your state of matter? You should go from liquid to a solid or gas if you want to trasncend your liquidity.

The definition you provided even implies as much. You go from human to another species, not from human male to human female.

How do we solve the Immersive Sim/RPG problem?
How can I be encouraged to roleplay an assassin infiltrating a building when I'm checking out every single closet for "treasure" on the way, and killing every single thug I meet for "credits", even though that would obviously alert anyone else in the building giving me away?
How do you prevent me from backtracking all the way to the start of the area to doublecheck if I missed any "drop", while the man I'm supposed to kill is in his room masturbating, oblivious to any explosion and gunshot in the last 15 minutes?

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By presuming that humanity will change itself instead of simply ceasing to exist. Humans are either humans or they're not. Homo Neanderthalis? Not human. Homo Erectus? Not human. Whatever comes after Homo Sapiens is not human. The very concept implies the death of what we are before a transformation into something else but fails to actually address what the fuck that means.

It's just a comforting concept for people with big dreams to feel good about.

stop having autism might be a good start

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>Do you understand that this is a comparison and I'm not actually referring to transhumanism?

Yes and I explicitly called your comparison retarded specifically because it missed the point so much.

All of my examples have been based on the fact that humans are so advanced that they no longer adhere to "humans", they just use the social and biological constructs of what they once were as frames of reference.

I'm sorry, I just want to play an actual RPG at least once in my life.

>chasing the illusion of ascension
Except it's not an illusion unless you want to throw out of the window just about the very definition of the word "improvement" and "human". In which case I don't have the time to deal with your bullshit.
>Oh wow how impressive, it does what evolution does but with metal bits.
Not evolution you motherfucking retard, not only you're ignorant about technology and politics, you're also ignorant on biology, you're referring to natural selection actual fucking evolution is something much different and way rarer. And yes, guess what happens when a species modifies itself to the point where it's no longer recognizable to it's original characteristics? It becomes another species.
>you keep believing in some bullshit about becoming "more than human." There's no such thing and never will be.
Making claims don't make them true, holy shit I'm tired of faggots like you, the intellectual equivalent of all bark and no bite. Where the fuck are your arguments you little shit? Where the fuck is your actual fucking logic?
>There's human and there's not human
I cannot fathom what kind of demented fuck thinks things are that simple, the whole POINT of transhumanism is that anyone that significantly merges with technology is NO LONGER a human.
>We're not transneanderthals, are we?
Yes we are, depending on the meaning given to the prefix.

And then you proceeded to imply that my example directly referred to transhumanism by claiming that changing from one species to another(like I said) is of course part of the definition.

Honestly, you're a fucking retard. Please stop replying to me.
Again, you just don't seem to understand the concept.
Transhumanism doesn't imply some version of superman or anything like that. It's just anything non-human.
For example, turning yourself into a computer program is transhumanism.

>In which case I don't have the time to deal with your bullshit.
So you're preemptively cutting off a discussion about the semantics you're using? How convenient for your position, an easy term of disengagement. Funny.
>you're referring to natural selection actual fucking evolution is something much different
I seriously hope you're not implying natural selection and evolution are mutually exclusive because if you are you don't have the right to call anyone a retard.
>holy shit I'm tired of faggots like you
Half of your post are rant-sized insults. You're ignoring structurally valid reasoning directed toward your fucktarded idealisms and then playing dumb as if it's not there. You're a typical naive idiot sucking the dick of an idealized future you will never get.

shut the fuck up console faggot

>For example, turning yourself into a computer program is transhumanism.
No my friend, that is called suicide.

This entire time, I've talked about gender, sex, and sexuality in the transhumanist context of having to be redefined if those kinds of terms or concepts were used by a people that no longer adhered to their old definitions.

You've done nothing but say, "That's not transhumanist. You're changing from one type of human to another," even though the point is that the fluidity from one perceived gender/sex to another would be part of the classification of a posthuman world. When asked for clarification or to provide an example of what you mean, you sidestep and just keep calling others names. I can only conclude you have no idea what you're talking about and you're looking for some kind of semantic trip up to crow about.

I'm going to stop responding to you since you actually have nothing to say and I'm not even sure you're understanding what I'm saying.

Hope you enjoy the game when it comes out.

>So you're preemptively cutting off a discussion about the semantics you're using?
Because in a discussion about semantics, you are throwing the fucking meaning of the words being discussed right out of the window, yes. Again, you do nothing substantial, no logic, no argument.
>I seriously hope you're not implying natural selection and evolution are mutually exclusive
I'm not, I don't even know why you'd think that.
>You're ignoring structurally valid reasoning directed toward your fucktarded idealisms
I have no idealism, any being that gets merged significantly with technology will have "transcended human form" and thus fit the transhuman definition. You haven't pointed out any mistakes on this reasoning, or in the logic being presented to support it, you said "uh uh but only the RICH humans will be like that so it ain't valid" and then when someone points out that it still fulfills the definition it's suddenly a fucking semantic "argument". An argument where you never actually fucking argue anything.
>You're a typical naive idiot sucking the dick of an idealized future you will never get.
>"I never said the percentage of people who would become post human, and they WOULDN'T need anyone else, they already see the lower classes as less than cattle, and they won't need them anymore, there's no reason why the lower classes would be kept around."
>naive
>idealized
Are you LITERALLY too retarded to actually fucking read? You little shit.

a reminder that futa girls is not gay

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indeed, I'm gay and I have no interest on them, or cuntboys for that matter

Your consciousness still survives.
I'm explaining to you that transgender shit has nothing to do with transhumanism and you keep repeating yourself that it actually does without explaining anything or even countering anything I say. So I thank you for stopping from replying anymore cause you're really exasperating.

>Again, you do nothing substantial, no logic, no argument.
Why bother when you refuse to receive such an argument before it is furnished?
>I'm not, I don't even know why you'd think that.
So explain yourself then. Explain how natural selection and evolution are such very different things. I expect a structurally valid argument, mind you.
>any being that gets merged significantly with technology will have "transcended human form" and thus fit the transhuman definition.
Only in the same sense that a dead person has transcended human form. You think that replacing your brain with a computer makes you more than human. It doesn't. It makes you a corpse being driven around by a computer.
>it still fulfills the definition it's suddenly a fucking semantic "argument".
Maybe because your choice of diction sucks balls and you actively refuse to explain yourself. There is nothing above, transcended over, or better than human. It's all a bunch of bullshit rhetoric you've constructed.

how much do you get paid

>Your consciousness still survives.
Does it? How can consciousness be fully replicated in a digital environment? How can anyone prove it is more than a replica of a dead person's mind? What happens if you make this digitized consciousness but the original still lives? How can such a thing be quantified in any way?

They had a working mirror in the game for a split second in the trailer.

All of your cells get replaced every couple of years, does that mean you die a few times per decade?

>Why bother
>"Yeah I'm not even trying to argue"
Then fuck off brainlet.
>Explain how natural selection and evolution are such very different things
Evolution happens to more than just biological beings, it happens to concepts and to objects, it can happen to individuals as well, natural selection is a VERY specific process by which specific genes, over long periods of time, get selected by their own ability to attribute characteristics that allow the individuals to reproduce more than it's competitors and pass said genes forward, in greater quantity to the next generation. Evolution automatically means a change that improves upon a previous state. It might happen with natural selection on the natural designs so that a specific characteristic might be further refined into further efficiency at it's role, but it's NOT the same as natural selection.
>I expect a structurally valid argument
You're a fucking disgusting piece of shit intellectually lazy hypocrite. You have given ZERO arguments so far, your pilpul isn't working.
>Only in the same sense that a dead person has transcended human form
Except a dead person can not withstand more damage than a human, cannot think faster than a human, run faster than a human have more precise movements than a human, have better senses thana human. You're either clinically retarded or intellectually dishonest at your core.
>It makes you a corpse being driven around by a computer.
Only someone who knows nothing of how technology works would say such a bullshit, that's not how they intend to implement the technology, at all.
>Maybe because your choice of diction sucks balls and you actively refuse to explain yourself
I've explained over and over the basic arguments supporting the points I'm making, all you are doing is making baseless claims over and over.
>There is nothing above, transcended over, or better than human
Support your claim with an argument or you'll receive no further replies from me.

From the Rock Paper Shotgun impressions:

>Then – because again, we’re very strong – we rip the turret off its base and turn it on the Animals. At this point, I feel increasingly uncomfortable that we’re shooting at predominantly black people labelled as animals.

The game sounds all right to me.

All this tells me is that I'm going to be severely punished with these scripted events breaking constantly if I don't go through as planned. No stealing things in advance because they don't spawn, obvious "boss rooms" with nothing in them until a quest on the other side of the city is triggered, NPCs straight up being uninteractable in some cases etc.

Quest design is hard but they really need to stop setting up players for disappointment because the things thy promised haven't ever been achieved by this studio and they aren't giving me any reason to believe it will.

Witcher scripts are nice when you play as intended and are generally quite aggravating if you dare to explore the world beforehand cause you slowly realise all the patterns in their quest design.

I don't want to hear anything about locked doors if I'm literally skullfucking T-Bugs bald headed-ass from the earliest point possible because that's what I want to do.

Why the fuck would you have any reason to though? Murderhobos shouldn't be encouraged. It's supposed to be a ROLEPLAYING game.

So you want to get into cellular biology huh? Alright let's have fun then: Assume that a person receives a traumatic brain injury and their entire brain is replaced by new cells. Memories gone, identity gone, most of their brain replaced. Are they still the same person?

If they are still the same person what is it that makes them the same person? The chemical energy discharging through their nervous system? How do you replicate that in a computer exactly? At some point all of this shit unravels to the point of meaninglessness. I'll tell you a secret: The quality hitherto referred to as "human" does not exist. It is a fallacious spook just like the Self. Beautiful comfortable lies.

Just ignore them. They don't know the difference between a tyranny tranny and a cuta futa

I unironically couldn't play TW3 because of the combat.

>It is a fallacious spook
Of course you're one of those faggots...

You should be aborted

So its pointless to buy this for current gen consoles right?

So ill have to wait until christmas next year to play a decent version of the game, great.

based retard

Thank god indeed

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>Witcher 3
>Solid gameplay

>Then fuck off brainlet.
You first cuck. It's a two way street: You can stop replying at any time.
>Evolution automatically means a change that improves upon a previous state
This is a veiled appeal to nature. "Positive change" is merely what helps something survive. You're relying on the inevitably "positive" changes that occur to justify your definition. Again, incredibly naive. Take sickle cell anemia for example: Very useful if most of the people around you die of malaria before they're 30. Not so useful if you live in a first world country. Was it evolution?
>You're a fucking disgusting piece of shit intellectually lazy hypocrite. You have given ZERO arguments so far, your pilpul isn't working.
Cry me a river you whiny little bitch.
>Except a dead person can not withstand more damage than a human, cannot think faster than a human, run faster than a human have more precise movements than a human, have better senses thana human.
So if all of these qualities are different from human then what makes the "person" still human? Nothing. They're a robot.
>someone who knows nothing of how technology works
Read your own text. You're talking like a blithering fucking idiot.

a game doesn't have to be innovative to be good
high quality alone is so hard to find these days among AAA, that it's practically an innovation in itself

In your example the person basically loses its entire identity, so it's obviously not the same as an exact replica.

it build for this generation console silly

So identity is what constitutes a person? Does someone with amnesia become subhuman? How absurd.

Is adopting the vocabulary of the people that hate you really your only counter?

Humm I wonder why that's remind me sekiro with the block / attack mechanics

In your example they were not suffering from amnesia, but almost their entire brain was simply replaced by different cells that didn't even have the same information stocked within them.

Whereas in the hypothetical consciousness replica the entire brain is replaced by hardware. How is this inherently different? Because an identity was imprinted on it? What if you make three or ten of them? Are they all the same person?

aw user you aren't all that bad :)

I saw someone post a link to the voodoo boys gang and it said most were white.

I love how mad this game is making some retards kek. Guaranteed GOTY

jesus christ

rent free?

got more gems like this?

>wanting to look at man ass

>I wish I could go read about something, somewhere, without thinking about this shit but my sanity is slowly crumbling
Read some Carl Jung senpai.

this. fps only works when the game strictly revolves around gunplay. In this case, even the gunplay is horrendous, with bulletsponge enemies straight outta some garbage mmo.

It's inherently different because in one case you have an exact copy and in another case you have a faulty modification.

The RPS impressions piece is a goldmine:

>We punch that man to the floor, then stab another Animal many times with a broken bottle as they try to run away from us. It’s horrible.
>I’m also increasingly concerned about Cyberpunk’s handling of non-white cultures. Last year’s Gamescom demo drew criticism for its clumsy and inauthentic presentation of a Latino character, and I’m not convinced the Voodoo Boys are a step in the right direction. At one point V, the player character, mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation.
>But near the end of the demo, we meet a white man in a suit and tie who gives us the information we need. He also tells us the Voodoo Boys are going to turn on us the moment we’ve done their dirty work – and is immediately proved right. The violent black thugs betrayed us, as the corporate white man said they would.

>You can stop replying at any time.
At least this confirms you're only still replying because you want, like a child, to have the last word, not because you actually have anything to say. Pathetic.
>This is a veiled appeal to nature
Wrong
>"Positive change" is merely what helps something survive
I didn't say "positive change", so wrong.
>You're relying on the inevitably "positive" changes that occur to justify your definition
And I would say, if that were my point, that said changes cause any species with said improved characteristic to eventually become the dominant one to be proof that it's intrinsically a betterment and that patterns of said characteristics arise leading to what scientists call "convergent evolution". However that is not my argument, so wrong.
>sickle cell anemia for example: Very useful if most of the people around you die of malaria before they're 30. Not so useful if you live in a first world country.
I'm not even sure if you're baiting, when a specific genetic characteristic only appears after the age where the majority of the population has already reproduced, it DOESN'T get factored into the selection. Secondly it's NOT a dominant trait even among the subset of the population that is most likely to have it, so it's not even fitting your poorly constructed "argument". First attempt at an argument and THIS is what you come up with?
>Cry me a river you whiny little bitch
>"yes I have so far been incapable to prove that I have an IQ above a chimpanzee go cry"
You're literally proving my insults right for fuck's sake.

rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/12/cyberpunk-2077s-e3-demo-has-weak-gunplay-and-unimaginative-stereotypes/

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>mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation.
V is sounding more and more based by the minute

>So if all of these qualities are different from human then what makes the "person" still human? Nothing. They're a robot.
Again, you know nothing of the technology and it's implementation, since the elites themselves intend to use it, one of the first things being done is designs which don't allow the AI to modify or take control over the personality, the "merging" with the brain not even being direct. So yes it's not a human anymore, that's the entire fucking point, but it's STILL an individual, that WAS once a human and it's NOT a robot, that's literally the point and the reason why it's called "transcendent of human".
>Read your own text. You're talking like a blithering fucking idiot
Not
an
argument
Prove that you actually understand what you're talking about if you want people to take you seriously, actually talk less study more, you're clearly too ignorant about the practical matters of every subject you're arguing about.

>It's inherently different because in one case you have an exact copy and in another case you have a faulty modification.
So how do you measure the accuracy of the copy? Where does the changeover in consciousness occur? What is the point of a replica if you are living or dead? What part of this computer molded in your image is actually still you?

I'm not sure what point you're arguing or what your stance is at all.

this game might not be revolution but I start to like it more and more

>hating fps
neck yourself desu

Why people bother with character creator anyways? Everybody plays with default appearance since mass effect default sheppard thingy.

>At least this confirms you're only still replying because you want, like a child, to have the last word
Nice projection cuck.
>I didn't say "positive change", so wrong.
So what is it then? Just change? Laughable. Now you're the one playing semantic rodeo.
>However that is not my argument, so wrong.
I sure hope not because that'd be a logic fallacy.
>First attempt at an argument and THIS is what you come up with?
You still didn't actually refute any part of it. You just spat out some sophistry about dominant traits which is funny because you're demonstrating that you have no idea what that means in the context of evolutionary biology.
>You're literally proving my insults right for fuck's sake.
Because you have the confirmation bias of a teenager that reads H+.

>rockpapershotgun
Though CDPshit failing is a genuinely good thing

>why it's called "transcendent of human".
It's just a metal corpse encasing a computer that thinks it's a person. Prove otherwise or fuck off.

Actually based.

i think its the right choice for what they were going for. that being said id rather have shadowrun rather than cyberpunk as the basis for the game.
not only do you get hot delicious orc women. but theres many more systems in place that could be turned into game mechanics.

>rockpapershotgun doesnt like it
confirmed GOAT

>author is worried about black people representation
>comment section are worried about trannies
It's hard to take them seriously, how much of the critique is ideology and how much is something real?
Now it's always possible to make stuff like hacking contextual, environment dependent unique scenario, but it might just be normal gameplay that suits peoples needs if the player isn't worried about black people or trannies. You dont know.

>Once our cover’s blown, we start hacking people’s robo-arms, making them prematurely pull grenades or shoot themselves in the head. It is, again, horrible. Pleasingly so, on some level – but it’s a shame that this is the main side of Cyberpunk we’ve been shown. Plunging into dens of violence, then revelling in the cyber-gore.
Give that man a onions drink

>The virgin direct link
>The chad pastebin

Kys

Need it to fix female V

>I asked Tomaskiewicz for examples of quests that explored the kinds of questions I’m interested in. Questions less like “how many people can I chop to bits at once with my Nanowire”, and more “what are these cranial augmentations doing to my identity”. He gestured towards transgression as a theme, and the city as an antagonist that “grinds people up and spits them out”. It’s understandable that he didn’t want to talk about specifics, but frustrating that he couldn’t point to anything more interesting.

>I'm not sure what point you're arguing or what your stance is at all.
I'll make it very simple: A digitally downloaded copy of your brain is exactly that: A digital copy. Your consciousness dies with your body. Immortality via digitization is a pipe dream.

God...

>Nice projection
You literally admitted that you are not even trying to argue, meaning you don't have anything to say. Like a child, you want to speak, but you have nothing to say.
>So what is it then? Just change?
I specifically said "more efficient" that is not a positive change, specifically when you use it in general terms.
>Now you're the one playing semantic rodeo
I'm simply careful with my words, because words have actual definitions that we can't just throw out of the window when we are having a discussion.
>You just spat out some sophistry about dominant traits which is funny because you're demonstrating that you have no idea what that means in the context of evolutionary biology.
Wrong, I cited specifically the eventual rise of more efficient traits, and how evolution ISN'T specific to biology, I specifically stated that efficiency is the point of evolution. You didn't address this at all and tried to spin my point into some brainless "positive" stupidity, which is precisely why I said you were wrong.
>Because you have the confirmation bias of a teenager
And now you can't even make your own insults, you're copying mine.
>a computer that thinks it's a person
It's a human brain that retains all it's personality and controls the machine. The actual machine doesn't have control over the brain itself, it does not set it's own objectives, and it cannot modify the brain. I'm just repeating myself at this point.

is this the r*ckpapershitgun faggot?

How do you know this?

Yes

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>Unironically makes me sick
You are weak and you will not survive the winter.
Keep your genes out of the pool so humanity can move past you.

>You literally admitted that you are not even trying to argue
Whatever you say retard.
>I specifically said "more efficient" that is not a positive change, specifically when you use it in general terms.
You're stumbling over your own bullshit at this point. "Efficiency isn't positive!" Well what the fuck is efficiency then? If it's not positive then how is it evolution? You're just spewing verbal diarrhea and praying it supports your point.
>I'm simply careful with my words
I laughed. Loudly.
>You didn't address this at all
Because it's a load of shit. Nothing but sophistry. Ideas don't "evolve" unless you are literally using that word as a synonym for change. You think you can control this argument by controlling which words are used and you're rapidly losing that control as you try to explain yourself.
>It's a human brain that retains all it's personality and controls the machine.
See this? This is more of your faggoty naive assumptions. It's not a human brain. It's a fucking piece of technology with the image of what was once a human imprinted on it. IT IS THE FUCKING MACHINE.

>being so proud of your addiction to mobatrash that you put it in your profile

absolute faggot, someone needs to put him down

>Everybody plays with default appearance
You aren't everybody.

Tetsuoooo!
looks good, kind of like pollution you have in China cranked up to show what can happen in the future if we let corporations care only about profit bravo, literally only trannies and sissies don't like cyberpunk

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You're the one that has to prove the original consciousness is preserved.

Your initial argument was that this cannot be known since there is no proper definition of human or consciousness, but now you're telling me that you know the answer for sure and it's 100% not true.

So which is it?

If I can hack into people and control them, this game will be my permanent goty. The closest a game has gotten to that was EYE, but it was so janky and bugged.

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You don't deserve EYE you filthy Jian

You can. Not make them into puppets but you can hack their arms into shooting themselves. I'd link you to the Eurogamer article where this was confirmed but it was real faggotry and the author complained about who gory it was.

>Whatever you say
>"Why bother"
>You're stumbling over your own bullshit at this point. "Efficiency isn't positive!" Well what the fuck is efficiency then?
It isn't. Efficiency means better at doing a specific task, positive means overall improvement, a cheetah is the most efficient at achieving high speeds in it's habitat, but the type of musculature and body it has causes it to become exhausted extremely easily, making it NOT a positive change compared to whatever previous state the animal was. Efficiency always has it's drawbacks.
>If it's not positive then how is it evolution?
Because it's more efficient, I just said it. Do you always have trouble reading?
>You think you can control this argument by controlling which words are used
I'm not even using my own defintions, one of the very specific cases where the term evolution is clearly defined is on the "convergent evolution" where it's observed that wildly genetically different animals still have same key characteristics when they share an environment because said characteristics are the most efficient at doing a specific task. Same thing with the evolution of the tools. Again, you'd know this if you weren't so ignorant about so many things.
>See this? This is more of your faggoty naive assumptions
No, it's actually more of your ignorance, because you're not accompanying the design choices being made right now about those pieces of technology. You make claims, again and again without any basis on either arguments or reality. The brain itself will remain biological, which is the very reason why the elite is also investing on the look for cell immortality, because they still want to have biological brains controlling their mechanical bodies. Again talk less, study more, maybe then you wouldn't be so pathetically ignorant on the subjects you want to talk about.

>So which is it?
It's two separate arguments to shit on your one, but nice try with the false dichotomy.

>literally only trannies and sissies don't like cyberpunk
Waypoint was whining about the game because it has a poster ad with a tranny in it. Don't include trannies in your game and you're excluding them and are transphobic. Include them and you're exploiting them and turning them into a fetish. There is no winning with these people.

W8 what? we have transfobia in CP77? Where? Did I miss some dude runing and screaming "faggots are coming! run for your lives!"

Can you actually trust any reviewers if they are going to complain if
>game is too gory
>game made me kill a woman I feel uncomfortable with the game level and quest line
>game made me kill a person of color I feel ashamed of myself
>too much blood
>not enough trans people representation in the game! It's transphobic!
>there's a poster with a woman with giant boner! It's transphobic!

What's the fucking point?

Utterly flexible identity and complete depravity have always been a cyberpunk staple, though. You think trannies are even a good example? That's tame. With that level of body modification possible, things get incredibly weird.

Pretty much. People not playing as the hand crafted default faces are retards

Retard

So you're refusing to tell me what your actual stance is?

Look closely at this screenshot.

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There's a poster with woman with a giant boner dick. And a person next to her is making "hang yourself" pose with peace sign.
CDPR is literally sending a message to trans community while entire world is watching them.

Dragons Dogma has one of the most robust Character creators, maybe even Skyrim would be a better example than DS or Mass Effect. but game journos are not actually gamers.

Aw. Was hoping for for body controlling. Maybe it's a late game ability. I'll hold out hope.

Great, so now I have to support a game I have no interest in.

>Can you actually trust any reviewers
Yes but not gejm jurnos, you have to be self-hating commie fagot to get this job. Even Sterling like to suck benis.

No it doesnt, its even worse than the trilogy cc

>Efficiency means better
But it's not positive? You really are full of shit.
>Efficiency always has it's drawbacks.
Specialization has its drawbacks. Efficiency is not an intrinsic quality, it's only relevant in a comparison between two states and based on a measurement thereof. You're flailing.
>genetically different animals still have same key characteristics when they share an environment because said characteristics are the most efficient at doing a specific task
That's nice, but what relevance does that have to this discussion? None. Especially since this is a question of adaptation of environment when we're talking about the hypothetical adaptation of individual humans to technology. Again, flailing.
>No, it's actually more of your ignorance
You haven't made a structurally valid point in several posts now. Semantic disputes and sophistry are all you have to offer.

God I wish I was on her right now.

>vr
Fuck that shit have a mandatory $200 controller attached to the game

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>feel the chemistry
>mix it up
>limit
CDPR code mesage is teling me to house made explosive and kill tranies?? Based Boland.

Sure kid, whatever helps you refuse to evaluate your own idealisms.

All you did so far is make 1 argument followed by a claim that completely invalidates it.
And now you're refusing to explain yourself.

Yea Forums will defend this

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I have two valid arguments that counter your one assertion. You base your entire stance on the assumption that a consciousness is perfectly replicated and substantiated in another medium. This is baseless and I have refuted it with two separate methods. If you have to demand to know which one I believe then you don't know how this logic thing works.

Holy shit, did they get the cuphead guy to play this?

Today, I will remind them.

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It wasn't an argument, it was a claim.
You said we cannot have the answers and then immediately told me the answer with 100% certitude.

So I ask again, which is it?

Will CP2077 turn into this all over again?

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Defend degeneracy in Cyberpunk setting?
I dont get U user...there are cat-sluts and guys with jack hammer motors in their dick in this setting but one poster is too much for you?

No because you can hack people into suicide.

>But it's not positive? You really are full of shit
Nope not every increase in efficiency is a positive change because things and designs aren't measured on how they do a specific task.
>Specialization has its drawbacks. Efficiency is not an intrinsic quality
Efficiency IS specialization.
>it's only relevant in a comparison between two states and based on a measurement thereof.
And that disproves any of my points how? It literally confirms what I said, efficiency doesn't mean it's a positive change. Hell we are living it right now, companies are ever more efficient at siphoning money from costumers, but it isn't a positive change. Stop being ignorant.
>That's nice, but what relevance does that have to this discussion?
So you ask about the definition of the word "evolution" when I present to you one of the more defined examples, you ask the relevancy? Keep going on that direction and I'll be 100% sure you're just baiting. In that case I congratulate you, you feigned retardation very well.
>when we're talking about the hypothetical adaptation of individual humans to technology
Wrong, you're changing the terms, again, to suit your needs, we are talking about evolution of humans with technology. Nice try at pilpul, are you a jew by any chance?
>You haven't made a structurally valid point in several posts now
Ah you say that all the while ignoring yet another point where I disprove one of your ignorant statements. Come now where is the counter point about an entirely biological brain? Nice pilpul though.

that is redundant, they are mad about everything

>So I ask again, which is it?
And I tell you again: It's both, and you're meta-arguing.

Is it really white supremacist though? Hard to believe a game in 2020 will be based like that.

Well I dont think its posible to make fully fleshed netrunner mechanic cuz it would be game on its own.
PLS give me Johnny Mneumonic hacker game

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Gonna play as a corporate gorilla on my first play through, what about you anons?

they are sending a message to trans people to commit sudoku how do you not see it?! Look at the rope on the other poster!
I thought by 2077 world will be cleansed from transphobic and white people. I can't support the game that promotes the opposite.

How can it be both? They're contradictory.

>Blue sticker on the left top with GAY written in big letters
Hmm guys?

except you can't.

>things and designs aren't measured on how they do a specific task.
That is literally what efficiency is: A measurement of how well something does a task. You're just being retarded now.
>Efficiency IS specialization.
Extremely funny from the faggot that says natural selection and evolution aren't the same thing.
>And that disproves any of my points how? It literally confirms what I said
Again with the confirmation bias. You're making appeals to petty arbitration. Semantics with no real meaning. Efficiency! Evolution! Change! A bunch of fucking bunk when used in reference to transhumanism. Sophisms and bullshit.
>when I present to you one of the more defined examples, you ask the relevancy?
Yes, I do, because it obviously has no contextual relevance to this discussion. It's verbal diarrhea with no real meaning.
>Wrong, you're changing the terms
Hypocrite.
>Come now where is the counter point about an entirely biological brain?
The counter point is that it dies numbnuts.

fucking hell

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Since riggers are out of picture, Corporate Netrunner.

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Because they both refute the retarded idea that consciousness continues via a replica. It's a fantasy. It's not fucking real.

>gameplay demo has dialogue options to suck up to Meredith
>backstory can have a corporate god as your childhood hero
It's entirely possible

dude my other post was

no factions though

Holy shit I can crouch behind a dumpster and wait for enemy AI to pass me by so I can go hack a door open and start a new cutscene? Based!

First playthrough? I'm going to bring up all my repressed teenage fantasies - a hot lesbian cyborg hacker ninja with a katana. Cool, professional, and corporate.

Second? A fuck-the-system big bruiser dude with a big bodycount.

But they don't refute it. The first argument claims you cannot know if it's actually being replicated or not, and the 2nd claim apparently denies that.

So can you know or can't you?

>man tits
i'm using a sweater just like his and notice mine are showing

thats sad
1/10 you lack spirit and will

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The first claim makes no assumptions. The second claim takes the assumptions into account and then shows they are nonsensical. Why is this difficult for you to understand?

I'm not even hyped about this game anymore. Seems like CDPR is putting all their resources into the hype and marketing instead of making an actual good game. There's a reason they didn't show any gameplay at the conference and instead choose to show it behind closed doors like they did last year.

>teenage fantasies - a hot lesbian cyborg hacker ninja with a katana.
I see you have no gf

What assumptions, you fucking imbecile?

You make 2 contradictory points and then refuse to explain what you even think.

Meant for

Don't need one. I'll have a hot lesbian cyborg hacker ninja waifu. With a katana.