Another hyped MMO closing down

FF14 is pretty unique.

didnt this game fail in at least 3 different regions? not even koreans gave a shit about it

I just want a good sandbox mmorpg with nice combat and just being able to be a dick to people. ITS ALL I ASK. ArcheAge was perfect in this way but was ruined by gook p2w bullshit FUCKING TRION!!! I HATE THIS SJHIT>

Newshit

Man, it hasn't even been that long.
Maybe they should try making GOOD MMOs.

>medieval high fantasy
>races are all human with different accessories
yeah, very unique

If you think its medieval high fantasy, then you not only haven't played it, you didn't even bother to take a cursory glance at the aesthetics.

It was only hyped by idiots since it had already failed in other regions.

an mmo needs to reach normie status aka be at least casually known by anyone to stay relevant.

Like if I had to choose an MMO to play, it would either be FFXIV or Black Desert, but i'd never pay for an subscription based game same as 90% of other potential mmo gamers around the globe. So FFXIV, while it could be fun, falls automatically out of the frame.

The free to play model with purchasable cosmetics etc is the optimal MMO model. It reels in the number of players since anyone can play it regardless of their age, place, and financial background, while giving those who have the money an option to purchase unique extra stuff. Nowadays there are so many ways to make ads money online that an free to play MMO wouldn't struggle in the slightest even if no one was paying, on the contrary.

As for Bless online, it lacked that most important part, the number of players, and if it doesn't have that then there is really no future for it which is why they probably thought that it's better to cut losses and invest in future plans.

>hyped MMO
Isn't this the 3rd time this game launched and floped?

>high fantasy
>medieval
>most races are anime people with animal ears
yeah ok

pso2 is next.

FF14 is next

I fell for this scam lads.
And now that Astellia is on the horizon I'm going to fall for that scam as well and you can't stop me.

The drought is real

Oh, ANOTHER garbage game that was shilled and spammed to hell and back on Yea Forums is closing down! What a surprise!

>retard who can't make the difference between hyped and shilled calling anyone new.
You're not even a newfag at this point, you're just extremely retarded.

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Stop playing shitty low-effort anime MMOs

It's like MMO producers and publishers are too dumb to realize it themselves, then again there hasn't been a noteworthy mmo in the last decade or so.. I guess other than FFXIv

This game was insanely for months before launch, had a ton of sales and players on launch day, and then once we got our hands on it, it had mass refunds and thus now dead.
Just cause you haven't seen it doesn't mean no one has you cavetroll.
Everyone was banking on the whole "complete revamp 2.0" which as we then found out was a lie. But shit all we had to go off of was hopes.
4 regions now, but yes.

shitty korean mmo launches and turns out to be shit! closes a year later! sad!

I can't, I need help.

>Why do so many MMOs have zero unique theme or aesthetic to them?
Because they're expensive as fuck, long term investments.
The only way devs can get the funds to make this shit is to play as close as possible to popular market trends (i.e. WoW)
So they're not common, and they tend to copy popular games like WoW and FFXIV wholesale with only one or two personal twists that usually end up being wholly unsubstantial overall.

there are a lot of untapped markets for MMO aesthetics and people fuck it up all the time. if they made a unique looking MMO with a fun and novel theme, with emphasis on what people hate about WoW and XIV, it could make millions

I'm currently drafting the systems and lore for a fantasy universe that capitalizes on it, but with a unique spin that's Holiday themed (one of them in particular: shouldn't be hard to guess)

who tf actually plays an MMO lmfao

*with an emphasis on fixing what people hate about WoW and XIV

community, dev-player feedback, no timegating, better stories, less faction shit, more racial shit, etc

The only people hyping it were shills and retards trying to ignore the fact that it launched and failed in like, 3 prior markets.

Some people enjoy MMO-esque games like Granblue. For them, there's something rewarding about bumping your damage up by 1% after grinding for one week.

>now that we are closing the game let's make it fun and less of a grind

every time

>Granblue
>game
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Try telling that the people in the general. For them their clicking simulator is the best shit ever.

All Korean MMOs deserve to burn.
They all have the cancer + enhancement system and are p2w out the ass. There is no exception.

And most of them use the garbage that is unreal engine 3.

And this was just last year

youtube.com/watch?v=jLQo3Zv66mc

why dont those companies with garbage dying mmos merge and make a single good one?

They don't know how, which is why they make garbage mmos.

Almost feel bad for the guy but he should had know better than to trust an MMO from Asian given their track record.

Pour one out boys youtube.com/watch?v=JXSaYsP_vME

bros...

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Jesus, that guy was invested into the game. I don't know how I would have reacted when Guild Wars 1 would have been shut down when I was blasting through it for such a long time.

I played the thai beta, its fucking garbage. The only mmo i'm somewhat looking forward to is Lost Ark.

fuck, forgot the link. I'll be getting won deducted for that.

youtu.be/jH6OFuCWdHo

>still looks like generic asian shit

man I've played WoW for 13 years now and I wouldnt shed a single tear if the server closed down

>What went wrong?
MMOs are garbage

PSO2 is coming so it doesn’t matter

>the one person who's played the beta and says it's bad
Hmm, I wonder if there could be some ulterior motive here.
>Lost Ark
There it is.
Get the fuck off my turf, shill. I was here first.

Most of them are, but the few good ones are still good. People wouldn't be so angry about the new WoW expansion/happy about Classic if the base game wasn't so good

It had to be good. People still like MMOs, but it has to be a good game.

No new Gook MMORPG will ever sell unless it's Ragnarok Online 3 with completely hand drawn 2d animation and music by Sound TemP

>Carbon copy of BDO and is even more pay to win
They have the same enhancement garbage, item retrieval pets, AND the energy system? Holy kek
To top it off, it's on unreal engine 3. DOA. Fuck off Korean MMO fags

this

I honestly think most MMO teams are fucking idiots, because they constantly and consistently fuck up

BnS has a kinda "unique" setting, or at least different than the usual ones.

BDO has much better combat, the aerial combat is slow and clunky as fuck in AIR.

I just want to play a good game you faggot, I don't even care what game it is. AGE OF WUSHU 2 WHEN CHINA. Shoutout to my boys from NoTrabbu.

I love that you can instantly tell if someone knows anything about this game based on if they shill it or not. I can tell you haven't played this for more than an hour or two, if at all.

lmfao can't wait for Classic WoW to follow the same fate

>You will now be disconnected to the server can perform a final save before shutting down.
What do they do with the final save?

>let me wriggle free of my own words with a weak semantic twist
You're transparent, you dipshit little tard

>He Deployed three times throughout his career always coming home unscathed before he was mortally wounded when a drunk and high driver swerved from the fast lane barreling into his Ninja 300 in the slow lane. The driver then left the scene of the crime to hit another motorcycle and 9 cars before being arrested and sentenced to 30 years in prison for multiple counts of attempted manslaughter. Strange broke every rib, fractured his arm in multiple places, collapsed both lungs, broke his neck, legs, fingers and scapula. On the operating table he nearly bled out and was told he wouldn't be able to use his right hand again since so many bones had fractured and the nerves were splayed. After 3 months of hospitalization and a year of physical therapy during which time he played BDO 18hours a day he slowly got use of his hand back.

Holy fuck.

>BDO has much better combat
Fucking WoW has better combat than BDO, you brainlet.
>hurr iz jus liek muh ackshun gaems
Even ignoring how every class plays the same, it doens't matter how actiony your combat system is when nothing in the game makes use of it.

Unironically, would Wildstar have done better if they waited a few more years and borrowed Rick and Morty hype?

who?

lmao @ pretending anyone knows of any mmo but WoW

So basically "never ever, ever" then.

Hahahahahaha
Good luck with the grind bud

>WoW
literally who? you ok grandpa?

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I only liked the lion girl abs

>The free to play model with purchasable cosmetics etc is the optimal MMO model.

That's why all of those flounder and the biggest examples of this genre ever have all been subs right.

>welcome to physical therapy, you're going to be grinding sausans for the next eight hours.
It would have less to do with rick and morty and more to do with the game actually being in a launch worthy state. The game and show don't even share tone. Wildstar was like saturday morning cartoon or a disney lite. Rick and morty is some college pothead going, duuuude. fuckin science, man. *hits blunt*

>hyped
kek the only hype i remember was from the refunds people were getting

the base game was atrocious and sent the entire mmo genre into the dark ages that it still hasnt recovered from

>there at the end of
>star wars galaxies
>city of heroes/villains
>tabula rasa

it hurts lads

muh medieval anime lmao

>falling for the korean mmo meme
I bought Aion. Never again

bless was only last year or some shit you stupid furfag. Nobody cared about the game

They were pandering to the hardcore crowd and that doesn't work well with casuals. See all the shooters that tried to revive the "hardcore" arena. No casual wants to invest as much time as it they used to do in the WoW/Guild Wars 1 era. Especially when everything can be wiped out when the servers go off.

Unironically, the next big MMO has to pander to casuals or it will die. Memes and predictable answers aside, Guild Wars 2 did go the casual route to a big degree and still doesn't become the rebirth of Jesus.
I also can't imagine that a high fantasy MMO will ever be as populated. The closest thing I imagine of a successful MMO is Warframe/Destiny2 with the latter probably getting a lot bigger when they hit steam and f2p.

>a game with gacha in it has so many fags seething over it

tera had a pretty good run if you ask me, i liked that game alot

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>all those heartless and soulless people
Yikes.

oh fuck nobody saw this coming no sir

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>medieval high fantasy
have you literally played a final fantasy game past the first few? Are we really getting to the point where new fags here have legitimately 0 knowledge of final fantasy?

Why even bother with MMOs? They'll all get taken down eventually and you can never play them again

*literally never played a final fantasy past the first few.

Not him but f2p mmos die because they're literally whos entering into a market dominated by brand names. They either don't have the name recognition to drawn large enough players, or the brand power to come back from a disastrous launch.
The only non big name mmos that have managed to carve out niches for themselves have been b2p stuff like gw2 and eso. Both had a name to build off of already.

Korean MMOs are never good. The only serviceable one was RO and it was because of the cutesy anime art. Heck, it even got boring once you realize how grindy it was

If they want to make a real successful and hyped MMO, they need to
>make it for mobile
>with an anime artstyle
>have something to differentiate with other MMO
>open it to every asian market, including japan, china, and asean

>he doesn't understand socialization
This is why games are dying.

They'll immortalize your character while everyone's characters continue going on living their own lives of their own free will.

its for people who like to grind and chat. Also if its shit like rune scape, wow, or ff then it will probably outlive your interest in video games at least.

NOOOOOOOOO not my muscle catgirls!

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The characters get Isekai'd into another world

The problem was they catered to the "hard core raiders", and those people don't make enough of a player base to float a game. Which is a shame, since wildstar had a decent combat system. Everything had to be aimed, including heals, every class had multiple roles it could fill, they all played differently enough to be interesting, and the combat was engaging that everyone had to do their part in avoiding damage and positioning enemies to make everything easier for the group. If they had launched it as a more casual MMO I think it would have done better.

High Fantasy and Anime (or whatever the fuck BDO, XIV whatever are called) MMOs don't "click" with normalfags, and that's fine. The genres are getting kind of tired anyway: ESO and WoW both get away with it by being a LITTLE different than generic Kingdom Come Deliverance swordnshield, but there is SO MUCH POTENTIAL for an MMO with neither of those themes to come and destroy the competition

If they redid a proper Star Wars MMO (no ST crap, no KOTOR crap) it would literally shit all over the competition for example

>They were pandering to the hardcore crowd and that doesn't work well with casuals.
Wildstar was supposed to have something for everyone, not just raiders. But since raidfags are the loudest, that part of marketing got the most intense feedback. So going forward that was emphasized more in the promo stuff.

I can socialize in real life and I dont have to put up with repetitive skinner box mechanics to do it either

FF14 is unique because its the only MMO who tries to play it completely straight and who doesn't fuck it up

>Fucking WoW has better combat than BDO, you brainlet.
Kill yourself you stupid faggot, I was saying BDO has better combat than AIR nothing else.

>city of heroes
Isn't this back though, sort of?

The amount of people that care about star wars enough to dedicate time on the level of mmo time to it is drastically smaller then before the new trilogy user.

Well not everyone is a chad like you so get out.

They're the same thing. It starts with shills, but it's maybe a week before weak-minded redditors start 'hyping' for free.

lol

MMOs have been stuck in a rut for years that they've only now just begun to get out of, people are tired of the same shit with a different coat of paint.

>mmos
>socialization

QUICK POST YOUR GIANT FELINES

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sort of, server was still a buggy mess when i tried a couple weeks ago, will give it another shot soon.

AIR has better combat too, you stupid faggot.
What makes BDO's combat good, in your opinion? That you do combos instead of hitting hotkeys? Who fucking cares when you do the same shit as any other mmo. PVE is mindless AOE spam and PVP is so dependent on gear, player skill doesn't factor into it at all.

is tera finally dead?

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it came out?

FFXIV has some of the shittiest MMO races known to man

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hi porter, big fan here

There's still bless unleashed coming. The REAL bless overhaul.

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That's what she said.

SWTOR is still around in 2019 while hundreds of MMOs before and after are dead

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Honestly, I didn't even know. From the marketing back then, I got the impression that the focus was solely on the hardcore (raider) audience. The combat system looked fine though, but then again also too similar to Guild Wars 2 which I was playing back then.

Good point. Makes me also wonder why nobody has done a cyberpunk MMO recently. You would probably get the best of all from that genre, people who can identify as literally every flavoured sex god/toy they want and so plus a nice setting.

lmao. I bet people got even more mad when the game that was dedicated to the Star Wars franchise (sw battlefront) was a massive wallet rape.

blessed image

its on life support

I don't think so but it died for me when they introduced tier 7 gear and it was near impossible to fully enhance it. Blew all my fucking gold trying to do it and ragequit after 600 hours playtime

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>AIR has better combat too, you stupid faggot.
What makes BDO's combat good, in your opinion? That you do combos instead of hitting hotkeys?
Yes.
AIR has shit combat, get out shill your game is garbage.

I dont know retard having fucking sword fights with angels demons and all that other shit seems pretty fucking high fantasy to me

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how do people even tell all this asian garbage apart

>Honestly, I didn't even know.
You'd had to have followed the game from early on to have noticed the shift in focus. Early intervies were like; there's gonna be raids for hardcore pve players, adventures and expeditions for casuals, warplots for hardcore pvp, monthly story patches, etc.

wow ANOTHER CAT EARED HUMAN??????????????????

The name, usually. Surely you know how to read, right?

oh no no no

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The height and claws give them some visual difference but the face and general body is Just a human with fur

BLESS THIS MESS
>BLESS THIS MESS
BLESS THIS MESS
>BLESS THIS MESS
BLESS THIS MESS
>BLESS THIS MESS
BLESS THIS MESS
>BLESS THIS MESS
BLESS THIS MESS
>BLESS THIS MESS

Goodbye giant cat people

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Reminder: FF14 made it canon that tonberry are just lalafell that were mutated by a virus

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>BDO is good because it plays like muh action games
t. low IQ retard.
Action combat in mmos is a trap because like you, devs don't think past LIGHT, LIGHT, HEAVY. That's why all the mobs in bdo are braindead and exist only to be wrangled into one huge pack and aoe spammed. It's why pvp is so gear dependent.

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>posts one of the most celebrated race list in MMOs, ever

Canon in ff14, sure.

how can they even compete?

Listen shill, I don't know why you're so assblasted I said BDO has better combat than AIR, I didn't say it had the best combat of all time. I understand you have to defend that piece of gook shit but really c'mon now.

The problem is that mmos only drink from a pool of a somewhat specific set of people. By the nature of the game, you arent juggling multiple mmos like you do other games unless you ONLY play mmos, or you have extreme amounts of time/ money. Most people arent going to even shell out for subs to wow and ff14. Hell a lot of people wont even pay a sub and will only play f2p.

canon to ff14 maybe. Really tho.... its a better way of life then being a fucking lalafel.

Playing xiv after wildstar made me appreciate wildstar's races more.
I miss my mechari.

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>western design

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>mess online

everyone who wasn't delusional fanboy knew this was coming day 1

I think the people that wanted a "Ratchet and Clank" aesthetic for their game was too small

I just called it mommychari.

>eastern design
oh no no no

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Literally the only thing I know about this game is changing INI files to become a GM and hot muscular cat chicks.

AAAAHHHHHHHH someone please rip their model!

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Look, faggot. You want to know what an action mmo with good combat looks like? Look at tera, wildstar, maybe vindictus if you're not hard set on player numbers, and maybe gw2 if you stretch the definitions of action combat.
Wanna know what all those games have in common? The rest of the game is designed around the combat, not separate from it.

>last year and still doesn't remember
newshit confirmed lmao

>literally stole the Nightborne pose

My god I still remember the blatant shilling on Yea Forums like unironic shilling of this game.
I was during Tabula Rasa. Never again hopefully.

tbqh every race in FF14 looks the same, WoW is way more diverse especially when it comes to beast races

Hyped? No, Shilled? Yes.

All i remember it bieng shilled to fuck here on Yea Forums for months.

>games with good combat
>all dead
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>grinding sausans for the next eight hours.
BDO midgame is a fate worse than death. Fishing is a lot more fun.

Wat u talkin about bro! Its lik the most epic game ever fampai! You 360 NoScope and ollie and shit, dog! It'd be a bargain at twice the price, bro!

At least it's weeb waifu bait while WoW races just force me to retaste yesterday's lunch

>SHILL SHILL SHILL
Or maybe it was just mmo drifters looking for anything to play when fucking nothing was coming out. Not to mention a chunk of people were already playing the jp version and reporting that it had promise.

Remember some garbage mobile tier Korean FPS which was also shilled not long ago? That shit was even more shameless.

There was nothing hyped about MESS online it just came out during a window of time where there were no other new MMORPG being released.

wew you're still at this. look dummy I don't give a shit, the guy I was replying to was making a comparison with BDO and AIR and all I said was BDO has better combat than AIR and you keep going on about action combat???? Just admit you're mad at BDO for being a better game than all that crap you listed. Maybe you should work a little harder to get your gear up kid, its not that hard.

this game is from 2014

I was there for the end of Nostalrius.
Big feels.

None of those games died because the combat was bad though.

No user just no. I also call out people who spout ‘muh shill’ when people are just discussing the game but that shit was too obvious.

>frame drops in the trailer
lol

>people were hyping this shit up

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GW2 have standard but I rly liked Asian Plant People and Charr

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I miss my radarface medic. And my drakken spellslinger

Alright gentlemen, how do we make a successful MMO that can compete with WoW and XIV?

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No user just no. People playing the jp build said it was decent so it started gaining traction among mmo hoppers looking for the next mmo to play during a drought. If there had been something else to look forward to, no one would've cared about bless.

The true endgame of BDO is lifeskilling, I made a shit ton of silver and never had to grind anything except for leveling. Too bad I got bored one day and blew up all my gear, should've just sold it.

charr were cool when they were savage killing machines and not a bunch of lgbt sparklecats

>anet didn't add new player customization allowing for more monstrous sylvari with HoT release
I will forever be disappointed at that. I wanted to be a half mordrem abomination.

BASED ESIKIMO-ED

and then they both look like shit in game because the graphics are shit.

makes me sad wildstar is dead i have good memories of the game the first year of the game

youtu.be/ms1_fL1eJ-o

Rather than the fucking cats, they should have given us the Frog or Tengu (bird) people to play. Now we saw a gorillion clipping armour pieces and lost an eternal villain. But then again, I could go on for hours how they missed each and every opportunity lore and gameplay wise that could have turned the game into solid gold.

Lack of meaningful pvp content and slow pve content. If needed good pvp content to stay going though.

take a popular franchise, remove any interesting gameplay, social interaction, and add loot grinding

youtu.be/xdV_bzJgRxE

:'(

youtu.be/ULRTwOMwLoA

>interested in ESO as a big TES fan
>see this
what the FUCK

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are they changeing the combat in the new xpac for ff14? the combat is way to slow for me

No grind, no time dragging tasks and chores, items are being divided into mechanics/attributes and alike and skins. Skins and vanity items function as unlockables and separate from its function. And no fucking subscription fee.
That would be for the groundwork at least.

bad game

youtu.be/v89qYANJGMQ

Eso was very.... uh ..... vanilla? didnt really stand out when I was looking for a wow replacement.

didnt they just "kinda forgot" the entire nightmare court in HoT?
being a sylvari on ht should've been way different

The themes in ff14 are pretty lit
youtube.com/watch?v=RMciY-HYqQU

I’m just posting OST my dude. I don’t really care if you think it’s a bad game or not.
youtu.be/wLCWCPyxByg

Khajit have different body types depending on which cycle of the moon they are born under. The ones that look like house cats have the minds of "normal" people, and tend to have more natural affinity for magic.

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Major obstacle to adding a new race to GW2 is the fact 1-40 each race has its own content that's dependent on class and some choices. I can only assume it would not be worth it.

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it was canon before ESO

>He's never read TES lore threads

>posted this a few days ago
>got no replies

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post your face when you dodged this bullet

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The developers completely reworked the game for the western release so it was nothing like the eastern version that people got hyped for.

FF14 fags really are hilarious.

>I'm just shilling this bad game, my dude.
kill yourself at the next most convenient time

They should have put in a generic story for that, or divide the races to two or three different story paths for 1-40.
With being so specifically tied to the race, they cornered themselves for that, as people would expect them to make a super brilliant story to new races.

lel
humans with horns
green midgets
human with tusks
green muscle human
dead human
human with lon ears

>humanoid races
are better than
>humans with animal ears
there will NEVER be an MMO that lets you play as spider people or nagas, EVER

I’m not talking about the game
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Albion online is the best mmo rn

>That leg length

You know, back in early 2000s, I remember people making fun of the Advent Rising main character / player character for having legs that are 70% of body height. It seems to be a fairly common thing in east asian (mostly gook) games though, that and small heads. It's quite retarded, then again so is the entirety of Korea.

Anyone who didn't see this coming is braindead or a shill.

>muh graphics
Go be nigger somewhere else

why do the big ones not wear clothes? are they not people?

dodged this bullet
this one, however, still make sme feel hard
>ywn hear the comfy OST while in your home overlooking the sea again
>ywn sail the high seas with your buddies again
>ywn feel the joy of getting a thunderstruck log on your farm again
>ywn pack your donkey with goods and set off for another town again
>ywn drive your cart (and give people a ride) again
>ywn never hunt the unpopulated areas for other's people farms and steal them all
>ywn look for hidden nooks an crannies to put your own illegal farms
t-thanks trino
>inb4 it's still alive
not it's not and you know it

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ESO looks pretty cool but I don't know if it's dead or not

Mmofags never learn. They always try to hype all new mmo like it's the greatest thing since sex. They're always eating shit in the end.

LEAVE THE DYING GENRE TO ME

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The big ones generally can't talk to regular people, but they can communicate with khajit. They have them in ESO, they usually work around farms protecting them from wild animal attacks, or they work like collies herding sheep. If the khajit in game are to be believed, they also tend to be a bit lazy, preferring to laze about in the sun rather than work.

dilate

I will never understand how Trion managed to fuck up a release of a game that's been out for over a year. They were figuring out basic shit you'd think it was the game's original release and came it six months too early.

Where are the catgirl ones?

what other games have giant girls besides GW2 and BnS

WoW, but they're chubby

More or less. Faolain died, and they teased us with Countess Crysanthea in the dragons stand fight, but haven't touched on them since.

And neither of which are remotely successful as even XIV

Holy shit. Imagine being such a colossal faggot that you break down in tears while live on the internet because of a fucking video game. How little do you need to accomplish in life that something like this affects you to such a degree?
>talks about a class-action lawsuit
>admits to cutting a vacation short to play a shitty MMO more
>GAMERS RISE UP
>unironically says this could have been the fortnite of MMOs
This faggot should just kill himself.

Based Eskimo-Ed
Also I wasn't around for it but the ending of FFXIV 1.0 looks awesome
youtu.be/TzLUASTdV5g?t=1315

Oh god let me think. Pretty sure there are some in the starting area for the aldmeri dominion khenarthis roost near the farm with the rats quest. Because it isn't a fucking MMO without a killing rats quest. Other places would be the other AD zones grahtwood, greenshade, and possibly malabal tor.

>completely different market
what a shock!!!
ESO is competing with WoW, not XIV

Literally fucking who

>How little do you need to accomplish in life that something like this affects you to such a degree?

Thats just it, the game WAS his life. He sunk everything into it, and like any investment that ends badly he is getting burned.

>f2p in korea and failed
>f2p in oceanic region and failed
>buy2play in the west as a last-ditch moneygrab with SJW community reps, guaranteeing it failed
nobody cared about bless
they'll probably try one last moneygrab on consoles or something tho

So there are generic anime catgirls in ESO but they aren't playable?
based fucking bethesda

Khajit that are playable all have the standard skeleton to make armor and clothes all fit.

>use the skeleton polymorph
>beast races and orcs have species specific skulls

That's racist. We're all equal.

>Pick a skin color and ear type
>What's a race?

I've tried about a half dozen different MMOs and they all felt more like a job that I have to pay for. The only fun I had was playing waifu dress up and nothing can even remotely compete with Second Life in that department.

mmos aren't for you, they are literally designed to be a second job. for some people that is the appeal.

One of two things
>it's just the generic automated message that's sent out whenever the servers shut down for any reason, including maintenance, so it's not tailored for the final shutdown
or
>they're saving the server data and keeping it in case the game is ever brought back
But the latter is unlikely

If you can't cope with not being peak perfection at all times, MMOs are going to be hard for you

>want to play an mmo
>only want to play it once or twice a week
>can't find a group in my game of choice because everyone plays every day
God damn it.

Why's his head fucking massive though?

So a game has to have furfag shit to be unique? well grats user XIV gets that next expac

>Late night dungeon runs while drinking
>Taking a raid on a boat to go fuck shit up
>Doing open world bosses while contesting against enemy factions
>Late night fishing runs while spamming meme videos in teamspeak
>Giant raid vs raid battles

It will never be as good as it was.

How much extra cash did doing all that cost

nothing in FFXIV is remotely unique whatsoever

I think only the housing part of those took real money

Kwanzaa MMO? Absolutely based.

>muh anime
"muh anime" games have had the most unique themes in my experience. Ragnarok Cnline and Nordic stuff, Mabinogi and celtic/welsh stuff, Tree of Savior and Lithuanian stuff. A lot of others are at least modern if not futuristic instead of medievalish games.

dont FUCKING spoil it or i will NDA you

>Cnline
Online

I have literally never heard of this game in my life.

You forgot how it failed in Russia also.

Literally not even an MMO anymore

Besides the grind (user is retarded, all MMOs have some grind) and sub fee the other changes are good

>medieval
There's an empire that uses airships, robots, guns, artillery, but I guess that stuff is medieval
>Most races are anime people with animal ears
2/6 races have animal ears, the others are all basically just different sized humans
I know you haven't played/even seen the game but I'll bite

>one of the factions is cool so the setting isnt generic anime fantasy!!!!
"No!"

have a pity (You) fren

Are there any actual decent MMOs right now?
I quit WoW after 2 months of BFA, never touching it again.
I just want to do some dungeons man.

Nice strawman, retard. I never said the game wasn't anime, I'm saying it's not medieval.
Also
>Completely ignoring my other point

I find myself enjoying albion way more than I thought I would

Not him, but I heard they took out a lot of stuff between beta and release. Stuff about PVP zones being reworked into shittiness or something? Is it game breaking?

>I just want to do some dungeons man.
mmos arent for you

>Invest resources into huge open world RPG
>Fall for muh MMO meme
>MMO meme failure gets servers shut down
>Now nobody gets to play your RPG

Why do devs never have a fallback plan for these things?

Idk about that since I joined with f2p wave but the concept makes sense to me. Blue and yellow zones are safe, red and black is full loot.

Wait, didn't this shit just release in pre-prealpha last year?

But mmos are the only games that even has them.

my entire clan got banned for one retard's fuckup, only because a GM was using an alt in both our guild and our rival guild.

>mad
>moves goal posts

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I played Skyforge for a while, which I think was made by the same guys right? I've never heard anyone talk about actually playing this game, and the reviews look pretty terrible.

>dungeons are core content in every MMO
>MMOs aren't for you if you want to do dungeons
hmmmmm

Play Path of Exile or some other Diablo clone

He's wrong on everything. When you're creating an MMO you're not creating a video game. Video games are toys.
If you want to make an MMO you have to simulate on some level society(because that's why people come back to your "game", they're invested in the society) and with that comes the need to have a hierarchy because without one you don't know what to do with your time.
>No grind, no time dragging tasks and chores
Equals no investment. They leave when another game pops up. Less revenue.
>items are being divided into mechanics/attributes and alike and skins
Halves the incentive for gear progression, which is the main treadmill of your game.
>no fucking subscription fee
Equals trash community quality on top of reduced revenue for the developer who cannot fully plan future content reliably thanks to fluctuations in revenue.

All garbage ideas who would kill any project in the long term. Don't get me wrong, if your game is a dungeon brawler a la Warframe/Vindictus, these are still shite ideas, but they're sustainable in those specific cases because those games are filling a niche.

Isn't PoE mostly solo? From everything I've heard it's mostly just a single-player game with a public leaderboard.

Damn this was shutdown kino.

go play diablo/poe or games like it

>the core of a MASSIVELY multiplayer game is playing in small groups in instances
you are the prime reason why MMOs have been in the dark ages for over a decade

Don't listen to him. PoE, like Diablo 3 is just blasting through areas. It has nothing to do with mmo dungeons.

Like Diablo, you can solo or play with a party. Like you spend all your time with a party in an MMO anyway. If you want an MMO, I reccomend Mabinogi, but you'll just call it weebshit.

>no fucking subscription fee
>Equals trash community
Holy fuck no wonder why every time I start an MMO I think the community fucking sucks. Why didn't I see this sooner? Not sarcasm. I guess I should say FF14, here I come.

So you are either retarded or you never played an mmo before.

The artstyle is what makes games memorable not graphics.

>remember Bless shill entering every MMO related thread last year and spamming his trash while shitting on every other current MMO
>this news
>tfw my MMO of choice is still going strong and will continue to do so

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Dungeons being a core part of MMO content is not the same thing as dungeons being the ONLY part of MMO content.
I enjoy pretty much all of the content varieties, I just happen to like dungeons the most. As much flak as nu-WoW gets, doing high level Mythic+ with friends is ridiculously fun.

The Labyrinth is a better dungeon than any MMOs.

or im old enough to remember what they were and could be, but thanks for strawmanning to let me know you concede this discussion. no need to reply to you anymore.

is there any example of an MMo returning from the death?

>my mmo of choice
>doesn't name it
every time

based dumb anime poster

Oh sorry, you are a retrofag. Much much worse.

I haven't seen any reviews for albion but I could definitely say player experience will vary WIDELY. What make the game enjoyable is playing, chatting and doing content with friends and guildmates. Playing alone is not advisable nor is trying to rush yourway to any sort of "endgame"

And somehow the Archerage private server run by those retarded slavs somehow manages to be almost as bad as what Trion had going.

This game is the fucking worst

Okay it for four hours and draw a different conclusion, I beg you

There's the bizarre case with City of Heroes, which had a secret private server for years

In the sense of a new host acquiring it, yes. Not in the sense of recovering playerbase. I think DFO is an example.

I'm going to jump in on this argument and tell you to kill yourself.

Rate my MMO ideas, completely off the cuff and not thought out
>dungeons have single-player baby mode and harder group mode, can get equal rewards to group mode by speed running single-player and getting better at it over time
>you can only trade with friends/guildies in dungeons
>raids have an easy babby mode which is MANDATORY to do once, just to practice it
>group finder with a twist: you have to be near an area's "summoning stone" to access it, and it's only for that area/raid/dungeon
>PVP is not canon to the games story

also
>how the fuck do you make rep grinds fun

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No, not officially.

That was quick lol

>>/vr/
Fuck off. You got a containment board for a reason.

survived longer than the original APB at least

what's wrong with it? never bothered

I wish someone would photoshop Toby’s face from the office on the dude behind Lucas.

I like the first one, single player modes need to be a thing so people can learn the fights without fucking up pugs. Biggest grip about WoW is how faggots who have time to sit on PTR all day get so pissy over people not knowing fights when new content comes out. I used to have guild members who would act like douches to newer players over that shit and chase them away.

I mean they did say PSO2 has about a lifespan of two more years before the devs stop caring and move on.

RaiderZ maybe. There is a publisher that wants to bring it back, has announced it and seemingly worked on it over the past year or two, but I'll only believe it when I see it.
The game btw finally died when Perfect World US tried to contact the developers in South Korea only to find out, that there wasn't a single person there anymore. The studio dissolved without telling anyone.

More MMOs need to end with elaborate cinematics showing the End of the World.

To be fair I don't think most of them have the budget for that. If they did they wouldn't be going out of business.

>The game btw finally died when Perfect World US tried to contact the developers in South Korea only to find out, that there wasn't a single person there anymore. The studio dissolved without telling anyone.
What the fuck

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>Global Agenda and Firefall
rest is peas my love

I miss the everything about WildStar.

Yep, that's an even better story than Scarlet Blade, that had to close down because the developers fucked the game up and couldn't apply patches anymore.

I hated Wildstar even as a hardcore player
It was so ugly, so many bad design decisions, all the classes I tried were so boring
It had some good bossfights, but overall I could never bring myself to care at all

Is that a pet or an npc in the new expansion?

NPC, they show more of the different types of khajit

cool i might reinstall actually

Just hop on the OSRS train. We've got a few years before they fuck it up again and start OSOSRS.

these things technically shouldn't be able to talk, right? I remember an user complaining that they shouldn't have any dialog.

more halfbaked ideas
>there are factions in the game, but not playable to start
>focus on races over factions, with racial questlines, armor, mounts, special abilities for each class, change in spell effects, etc
>races have reasons to dislike each other in lore, but all can group with one another
>PVP in any area is unlocked at max level, can only fight other max level players, otherwise PVP only occurs in one area
>flying is not in at launch

MMORPGs are a fucking dead genre because of gear treadmill and lvls in general.Everyone wants to rush and rightfully so because everything before endgame is designed to be obsolete.They were incredible when they were something new that you could play and explore with your childhood friends but now everyone knows what truly matters is the "endgame" and "meta" builds and wikis about every single thing.
This is why lobby based MMOs are so popular nowdays.They skip the worthless grind and just put you instantly in the game.

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>ugly
I hate how every game nowadays tries to be realistic. I loved the graphics and the art style. It didn't take itself too seriously, and it was fun. I even miss the level-up announcer.

If I had the money, I'd buy the IP and all its assets from NCsoft, but I know they'd never sell, and I know I'd never get the money.

>They'll all get taken down eventually and you can never play them again
10+ years and still dabbing on newer mmo's, the same for a good handful of other old mmo's that are also still around. Newer mmo's just can't compete.

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i enjoyed all of the missions with the space jews, who were all clones grown to be motivated only by profit. and any clones that didn't pursue profit first and had self awareness were hunted down and "disposed of for being glitched".

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and it's already been 7, it'll basically be a stealth plan to milk some money from gaijins in a pump n dump fashion, given how it is.

I don't mind cartoony or stylistic choices in general, I just thought Wildstar was ugly as fuck

Shills were hyping it until it released and everyone found out how good awful shit it was.

>Bless
>Hyped
We had shill threads from their stupid ass "does-it-for-free" messenger program. Everyone else knew it was going to fail.