Doesn't fall over all the time

>Doesn't fall over all the time
>Can take a hit
>Crushes impatient players
>Is actually a challange now
Do you finally like him now Yea Forums?

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play a real MH game worldfag

fpbp

No. Arch-Tempered is everything wrong with monster hunter endgame design.
World is straight trash anyway.

I moved on to other games before I got to arch tempered stuff, what does it change? Is it apex with a new name?

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I've seen that video, but it's kinda hard to take him seriously when he does SAED's and complains about getting punished.

no, it's shit, to compare it to apex is insulting

He has (I think) the WR with charge blade on AT Nergi under TA rules, so I'm pretty sure he at least knows what he's talking about.

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just fought him because he finally released on pc, he still falls all over the place and the only reason he's hard now is because they gave him that big ass jump attack with 0 windup, still one of the worst non-siege elders to fight in the series, what the hell were they thinking with those hitboxes

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but I though World was easy and for babies! Not like my hardcore 240p games!

>Look up what pepege means
>Twitchshit slang

>plays Charge Blade
>spams SAEDs
>"Wow are you telling me I overcommitted nah son I'm pro I'm the best monster is cheap gg ez"

Even better,
>"Am I overcommitting here, here, here, here?"
>Proceeds to show overcommitting

it is piss easy, lol, everything about world is piss easy

>"AT vaal if unfair"
>vaal farts
>he doesn't heal, he doesn't lurk the monster away so he avoids the damage
>just fight vaal inside the dead fog
>die
How retarded can you be

kek
AT are at least a mixbag, some decent, some shit, couple good
Apex is just a shitty and annoying gimmick all around

>keep adding more numbers and swapping the moves around to the same fucking monsters again and again

This is why I stopped playing. I was sick of fighting the same monsters over and over.

AT is shit compared to the endgame of 4u anyway

Oh boy! I sure do love needing to use a fucking wystone just to be able to do damage! AT is still shit, just less shit than Apex.

>AT is shit compared to the endgame of 4u anyway
>endgame of G-Rank 4th gen game is better than vanilla soft-reboot
WOW
O
W

they're called apex for a reason after all, what does AT even does?

>apex
>temperd
>arch-tempered
>deviant
Just stop with this useless crap and buff the base monsters
A G-Rank base monster in FU was harder than his giga-endgame version in newer games

vanilla soft re-boot couldn't even get endgame right after all the experiences they have of making a MH game lol

this is wrong ex grimclaw is harder than g tigrex in fu

bring back those FU hitboxes, and the hipcheck too

Apex was the fucking worst though.
Needing wystones to play the endgame content was awful

>he needs wystones to damage apex monsters

Learn your fucking hitzones, shitter. Each apex monster has a soft hitzone that can be hit without the drive stone.

also two rajangs in an arena while we're at it

Apex doesn't reduce damage unless you hit the apex bouncing spots. Yes, you can kill them completely without wystones. You don't need Drive either.
Sounds like you're just an uneducated fool, and that your opinion is therefore useless.

no one learns about hitzones,
muh mind's eye will take care of the bounce fucking kek

>doesn't fall over all the time

If you keep making the white plates fall off he does. It's an easy fight when you learn how to abuse it.

Good thing you don't.

>Mind's Eye is great it makes me not bounce!
>conveniently ignores the sparks that still happen, and which only happen when you bounce
How the fuck are people so blind?

4U endgame wins by default by the sheer amount of variety and content, even with the horrible Apex gimmick

>It's an easy fight when you learn how to abuse it.
Is it though? For how easy people say World is, AT Nerg has been blasting shitters left and right. He's in the "artifical difficulty" tier that a lot of the really hard monsters get into when players can't stand fighting them so they just say the fight is unfair

>A G-Rank base monster in FU was harder than his giga-endgame version in newer games
It was uniquely thanks to the broken hitboxes and bloated HP

Going by that logic you can also beat every monster completly naked, since you don't *need* armor. Just face it dude, no one likes apex. People played it because it was endgame content and they were forced to, but no one liked it.

>people are now praising the apex monsters
It's really true that any MH mechanic will become loved after enough years and new titles
First the underwater combat, now Apex monsters
I even heard people saying P3rd wasn't that easy

In 4 or 5 years MHW will unironically be remembered as a classic

??? monsters in fu have NO HEALTH

because people are that dumb, they believe mind's eye will take care of everything

I hate that faggot because theirs no indication in his design or fighting style that there will be scales flaking off and exploding. I've heard people say he changed color but he still looks practically the same. Hes kind of shit

Except when a someone who does TA complains about it and explains how flawed the fight and AT is, it's not a case of being a shitter or git gud anymore.

but you can beat any monsters naked, lol, desu MH needs more naked and afraid quests types

The only people complaining about AT Nerg are the people who have never played a MH game before World.

I've seen shitters complain about literally every single AT monster released.

Yeah it is, everyone complaining just aren't used to fights where 1-2 hits can kill you.

Only shitters that didn't do the village quest dislike Apex monsters.

He thinks AT's are shit cuz he has to follow TA rules. Ignore this fag and move on.

let's not forget the mantles what were intoduced in world lol

t. baby blanket user

The fun thing is that the auto-evade mantle actually made endgame more difficult for randoms
It's super ironic

I liked it, and anyone who actually likes MH enough to want to learn how to play it does as well.
Your comparison is really stupid too. Not wearing armor means you literally can't make a single mistake, and cannot have any skills that give you more room where you aren't making mistakes. Depending on the apex moveset the difference between wystone and no wystone is 20% longer kill times at best, sometimes it's even better not to use them because a monster like Rajang has a huge opening during an apex only attack.

Deviants are glorified subspecies, you’re looking for hypers

Yes it is. EVERYONE can do AT Nerg, his dive is hard to dodge yeah, but that's the point he's meant to be hard. One of the first monsters in MHW that isn't a punching bag and everyone just cries about him.

>despite all the shitpost, Frontier remains the most balanced MH
Yikes

Yea calling AT's shit because you've gotta follow arbitrary rules whilst ignoring ingame mechanics that were designed with mantle in mind.

I never played MH before World but always wanted to, but never had the right console for it because I was a poorfag. I always saw this game in a shining ideal of what dark souls could be if it focused on bosses.

World is fun the first 100 hours, but then it quickly feel apart for me because
- You used one weapon, you used all. All hammers are the same, just reskins. And they're not even good reskins... The weapons don't look like they are made of monster parts at all, just the same thing with bits of the monster slapped on it. It's so unsatisfying to pick up anything different because it feels the same.
- Because of this, there's always 1 or 2 mathematically best weapons in a class. Don't expect to ever use anything else or farm for any other tree: You have no reason to.
- I found myself always fighting the same monsters over and over. Finished with those? Here, have them again, with more HP and damage and maybe one new move. Finished those? Here, have another colored border with more numbers.
- Why combat mantles are a thing? I feel like the game is designed around them and it ruins it.
- Because the way armor skills work, everyone is always wearing the same meta shit, and you can bet it looks like an ugly clownsuit. You have no incentive whatsoever to wear full sets specially when they combo stupid shit like Fire Attack + Resistance to Fire. What's the point?!
- Health augment is basically mandatory because it's so much better than the rest, as if augments weren't a boring mechanic by themselves.
- The whole decoration and streamstone farming feels like the opposite of what I got into the game for. Instead of killing monsters for monsters parts and crafting new flashy stuff, I'm just adding +1s.

you're basically agreeing with everyone who calls the fight badly-designed if you agree that they were designed with baby blankets in mind

>Not wearing armor means you literally can't make a single mistake
And not using Wystones means a bounce can kill you. I've faught 140 Zino in 4U enough times to hate Apex more then anything. Giving monsters one weakspot and 9 bounce zones is awful

How is a fight badly designed if it keeps the tools the Hunter has as a template for the fight?

>despite all the shitpost, Frontier remains the most spikey MH

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so? it just means you didn't git gud lol

I expect World to become Frontier at some point desu.

Welcome to MH, don't like it? go the fuck back to DS like the casual you are.

Spoilers: All of those apply to previous games except the health augment one.

The fight is balanced with mantles in mind you absolute retard.

and here's what my shitty opinion on what I would like in the game to make it better
- Make weapons look unique in design, by making them look like actual monster parts.
- Also, make different parts of a weapon tree play slightly different by having different qualities.
- Incentive to use full sets over mismatched sets.
- Remove gems, streamstones and decos. Everything you get are monster parts. Rarer monster parts are tied to fucking up a specific spot of the monster more heavily.
- Way, way more enemies to fight in the endgame. Add more ED, buff the early monsters. Add new ones. I don't know, anything but recycling the same rooster of few ED over and over now with a new coat of paint.

any brainlet can solo all endgame monsters (include extreme behemoth) with the mantle. just sit in the camp and wait for the CD
and this only makes the gameplay even shitter

Bouncing won't outright kill you. If the attack is fast enough to hit you while you're locked it normally won't be enough to onetap you, and after you've been hit you have time to recover.

because the tools are badly-designed from the get-go. they require no player input, hell they take away from player inputs

that's what i said you double retard

at least the weapons actually looked cool unlike in world, gore and shaggy weapons for fashion, how about an anti-materiel rifle for a bowgun? or a fucking HAM-mer lol

there are more generations of mh with endgame that consists of farming monsters rather than charms/decos

thanks for reminding me it finally came out on pc
what a shitty fight, he does that new instant stomp nonstop in rage mode that's obviously made because the baby blanket exists, haven't fought him in a while and I forgot just how annoying the fight is in general, terrible spike hitboxes everywhere and that flying paw slam has like 3 separate hitboxes you have to tank if you try to block it
also an ad for iceborne after you get the mats, how jewish

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Fuck off you neo-purist piece of shit. I played every single monster hunter and World is by far the best one. The QoL improvements alone make it impossible to go back to the older games.

nigga extremoth has a 35 minute timer

i burned out of MHW around the time AT Teostra came out on PS4. I came back for AT Xeno and loved that fight dearly, but I can't really make myself want to play more as is.
I hope Iceborne revives my passion

No the fight is fun you triple retard

also full sets are rarely meta, unless it was i guess dark akantor armor in mhf2/fu lol

go back to your for babies' only MH called world

Post your AT Nerg proofs right now you shitter

So, going back to old MH? Go figure.

Oh whoops, I didn't even see the bit about weapon appearance. Yeah, that's strictly a World problem. I know I miss my shark lance.
By my count, there are three generations of farming for charms and decorations and whatnot, which puts it at an even split.

I'll take charm farming over decoration farming

>- Make weapons look unique in design, by making them look like actual monster parts.
literally any MH game but world.
>- Also, make different parts of a weapon tree play slightly different by having different qualities.
No, fuck you.
>- Incentive to use full sets over mismatched sets.
>he can't make a good looking but powerful clownsuit
LMAO
>- Remove gems, streamstones and decos
>remove set customization
how about no?
>- Way, way more enemies to fight in the endgame. Add more ED, buff the early monsters. Add new ones. I don't know, anything but recycling the same rooster of few ED over and over now with a new coat of paint.
Just play FU, 4U or GU the big monster roster is above 50

go back to your ports

>a shining ideal of what dark souls could be if it focused on bosses.
not even a good comparison considering MH doesn't have humanoid bosses like Artorias and monsters don't have weapons like Sif.

Akantor got nerfed in FU, nobody ran the full set at that point. I think the full set I saw the most was the G Crimson Fatalis armor for its unique dual skill.

Die worldsperms

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It will, you're only missing meaningful content and progression which notG should bring back. I really, really hope even being fully geared doesn't make any of the Master monsters jokes, I want them (or at least most) to be evil motherfuckers who stay relevant as fights.

3U was the last good endgame in MH
come @ me

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what ports? lol only port was mhgu and it's even hard to consider that one a port lol

3/5 is charm/deco farming

4u/gu fight monsters in the endgame with supplementary charm farming quests (brachy in gu)

I'm tired of MHW and I don't care much for GU either. Do people still play 4U? If so, can I still play with everyone still playing on Citra?

I always run the full set in FU until I can get G-rank Azurelos stuff.

It had an endgame?

have you ever played a non-G MH game? super end-game gear in any HR game shits all over early-mid G monsters, it'll probably be even easier with Iceborne unless they actually take away stuff like drachen and mantles from the player somehow, which I doubt they will.

nigger you can't even dealing 51800 dmg in 35 minutes?

I miss water combat...

I played a few months ago and was able to find pubs with a bit of waiting. Prepare to be reliant on goodwill to take turns though.

m8, I'm dreaming here
It's not totally impossible

the argument was for temporal mantle and then afk for 3 minutes retard

4U is farming charms so that you can farm the randomly generated weapons and armor pieces. What was it called? Relic equipment?

I never hit end game on 3U, what exactly was it's endgame?

Don't care, reached HR 500 and got pretty much every set I wanted. I just want to fight fun monsters.

>I always saw this game in a shining ideal of what dark souls could be if it focused on bosses.
And that's where you went horribly wrong. They're not even trying to be the same game despite superficial similarities. Nearly all of your complaints apply to every single Monster Hunter game since the very first one, because they aren't flaws, they're by design.

Oh wait, Citra. No idea, sorry.

>what's rocksteady mantle

something that will get you killed very fast during a behemoth fight because nearly all of his attacks are multihit

I'd bet money you're a tribab. You kids are the worst.

Monster hunter is not the series for you

Holy shit based.

>clips through environment

try MH on the ps2, try harder worldfag

Half of their complaints do not apply to all of the games since the first one because they stem from baggage that came with later installments.

No you didn't. Because I did and I enjoy world. Tri was the game I threw a shitfit over. Once I accepted change I stayed with the series.

lol try harder, MH on the ps2 also fuck the proprietary ethernet adapter on the ps2, and world is so piss easy and so shit on the content not to mention fucking bland in terms of weapon designs that i didn't even get motivated to keep playing after xeno and went back to 4u where it's actually much better than world

those quests are always a riot
>getting 2shot by dinky basic bitch small monsters if you're reckless
>throwing on defense up food and watching big bad monsters tickle you

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I had both as well. Again if you were going to throw a fit about changes it would have been way earlier than world.

Tri remove trample removed weapons and had that awful swimming shit. That was way worse. I almost dropped the series in third gen. Then gen 4 added mounting which I fucking hated. And I won't even get into styles and shit.

But if you accept all that change there's no way world is where you draw the line. All the HR games are piss easy which you'd know if you'd been with the series any length of time. 4u was amazing, but I've gotten everything I can get out of it by now.

My top 3 will likely be world fu and 4u after iceborne.

Iceborne? more like Khezuborne.

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I always liked him though.

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HR game was easy, you sure? at least gen had a BS tier dlc quest
then there's mhf2 with all the broken hitboxes

>You used one weapon, you used all. All hammers are the same, just reskins.
Name one game with better weapon design than monster hunter. You can't, because by not giving each individual weapon its own stupid gimmick attack, weapon types actually feel complete.
>Because of this, there's always 1 or 2 mathematically best weapons in a class. Don't expect to ever use anything else or farm for any other tree: You have no reason to.
Holy shit someone actuallyunironically? wrote this

Yeah, because nobody criticized the changes before World, right?
youtu.be/ewcLN1854qI
>lmao lad just drop the series since you have problems with it

>Make different parts of a weapon tree play slightly different by having different qualities.
>There are people that actually, genuinely, unironically think this
>You share a board with these subhumans

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I skipped F2. I hate portables and it took me a long time to suck it up and by then FU was out.
I shit on a ton of changes. But the people complaining the loudest about world are newfags and you won't convince me otherwise. Honestly I'm so glad it's off of handhelds. Fuck handhelds.

Nerg was always perfect.

>and had that awful swimming shit
i'm probably one of the few people ever who actually enjoyed the water combat somewhat, they could've expanded on it quite a bit in later games if they just had the controls properly worked out. clunky as all hell but it was something new and with not shit controls would've been pretty good and opened up a lot more ideas for monsters
it's sad seeing monsters like lagiacrus and ludroth permanently out of their natural habitat because they couldn't work out how to make underwater better

I liked nerg before too
but MAN AT nerg was so fucking fun with the bros, this was the first mon that stressed me out with its oneshots while still feeling fair to me. Shit was awesome actually made me wanna buy iceborne

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Bloodborne.

I always hate underwater sections. I always hate gimmicky shit like vehicle sections.

your prooves please

>But the people complaining the loudest about world are newfags and you won't convince me otherwise.
Why do you think this?
>Honestly I'm so glad it's off of handhelds. Fuck handhelds.
I don't mind either way but what's wrong with handhelds? Why can't we just have a bit of both.

underwater would've been ok if not for the shitty controls implementation until you realize you'll be fighting plesioth underwater

surprised you're playing monhun then since every new game has to have some gimmick

dude probably hates handhelds because muh graphics

Because I think people who genuine started with MH1 are happy for a return to console (and now pc) I think people who have been with the series a long time are more inoculated to change than newfags. And I think newfags are more likely to be console warriors, I've been following this series around well over a decade.

I fucking hate them. Small screens, uncomfortable to play with, shitty wireless internet, etc. I keep having to buy them for exclusives but I'll never like them.

>Light attack
>Heavy attack
>2h Light attack
>2h heavy attack
>Transforming attack
>This is every weapon's moveset
But dude, it's totally got the best weapon design.

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plesioth was actually easier to deal with underwater since you could reliably hit it's head and body

Nah, I don't feel like having two combat styles where one has a ton less effort put in.
Yeah I also hated mounting honestly. But I can just not mount or tune it out briefly. Water is way worse.

yeah hit it with the shitty control scheme underwater, nah I'll rather take the normal control on land and fight plesioth than deal with that control scheme

That hop it does to reposition itself into the slam is such bullshit

I really like Nerg but by the time AT Nerg came out i hadnt played for well over a year and he pushed my shit in pretty badly.

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light attack (4 sequence)
heavy attack (up to 3 sequence)
dash attack (different for each direction)
rolling attack
backstep attack
running attack
transforming attack from 1 to 2
transforming attack from 2 to 1
transforming into light attack 1
transforming into light attack 2
transformed light attack (4 sequence)
transformed heavy attack (up to 3 sequence)
transformed L3 attack (up to 3 sequence)
transformed dash attack (different for each direction)
transformed rolling attack
transformed backstep attack
transformed running attack

And 24 completely different weapons, counting the Saw Cleaver/Spear and Ludwig's/Kirk as the same one even if they have completely different transformed movesets.

>transformed L3 attack (up to 3 sequence)

Meant L2 attack, and it's up to 5, but usually 2/3.

Funny how Cant seems to do all AT perfectly fine.

Dude if I list each individual part of weapon combo strings and which moves combo into which others I can make even Dragon's Dogma's movesets sound intricate you fucking retard.

>Because I think people who genuine started with MH1 are happy for a return to console
Granted I didn't start with 1, but having played Tri and 3U, and then 4U I was completely neutral about World being a console and PC release.
>I think people who have been with the series a long time are more inoculated to change than newfags.
They're also more sensitized to what makes the games good, and perhaps more capable than anyone else of criticism.
>And I think newfags are more likely to be console warriors, I've been following this series around well over a decade.
I honestly can't imagine MH of all things being the series that gets used to further consolewarring, what I can imagine is a lot of people using that as an easy scapegoat for arguments.
>Small screens, uncomfortable to play with
Only thing that bothered me about PSP was having to claw, and with a second stick that could be solved.
>shitty wireless internet
I guess? Since I started with the PSP titles I very quickly learned to be a solo hunter, so this was never much of a factor to me.

Those are not individual parts of a combo string. They are different attacks.

To be fair, that did exist in the forms of Bow types, Phail types and certain moves having better element values.

Longsword for example in World could easily have Element Longswords that take advantage of using the Spirit combo..... but the spirit combo has terrible element values so the Longsword remains entirely RAW.

But there are combo strings in Dragon's Dogma.

More than Bloodborne actually.

>I honestly can't imagine MH of all things being the series that gets used to further consolewarring
were you around at all when World was announced? MH discussion has been almost nothing but consolewars since then and its amazing that there's not one "bing" or "snoy" in this thread

yeah in 15+ minutes lol

or ps2 but proprietary ethernet accessory and expensive internet prices (at least where i live in) forced me to solo every quests in mh, it was only till 4u came put that i was now able to play online with other people

>play a real MH game worldfag
I don't play clunky mobile SHIT.

because that's not how element damage works lol

mh HAS LITERALLY ZERO PLAYERS COMPARED TO DAUNTLESS. WHAT A SAD TIME WE LIVE IN.

Cant has pretty decent speedruns though, and doesn't rely entirely on quantity over quality like most World Speedruns are.

I just hate handhelds I guess.

Maybe so, but half of the critiques for world apply to any HR game so I wonder how many of the "old fans" really are sometimes.

Have you been on Yea Forums since world was announced?

They're just never going to be as comfortable to me as a nice chair and a tv/moniter.

I bought an ethernet adapter for my ps2 just to experience the online. It's a fundamentally multiplayer series to me. I do all the singleplayer content and solo some stuff for fun, but the meat of the game is multi for me.

you sound like a world baby go back to world lol
inb4 world babies complains how glav is unfair

>world is so piss easy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Every time I read a crying MH """"""""veteran""""""" who's shitting his pants with the new AT in MHW.
AT Nergigante and Extremoth are the ultimate filters - the hardest monsters in the entire MH franchise.

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Bloodborne doesn't have combo strings, just follow ups with different animations, but they don't combo in each other.

All the moves listed here are individual different attacks started from 0, which is objectively better than long combo strings which funnel people into always using the same sequence of rotations over and over instead of adapting to the situation and using a move that fits it.

how do I get a cute Nergigante gf?

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Don't shill me your ugly clunky mobile SHIT.

Certain attacks have higher and lower chances to proc Elements.

Take the SnS for example, where Shield attacks CAN'T proc elements.

they have nothing on the dumb shit that's in Frontier like White Fatalis Z, but mainline is getting there with how much powercreep there's been

lol just go try mhfu and say those words again lol

Extremoth is a gimmick fight tho.

Or are we going to say gogmazios is suddenly a super difficult fight because he's also a damage sponge?

There's a pretty big gap between Phial types/MV variations and giving each individual weapon tree its own super special snowflake attack.

I'm interested in this too

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I don't think you understand how element or even status works in mh

>it is piss easy, lol, everything about world is piss easy
Your solo Extremoth screen.
Your sub-6 minutes AT Nerg screen.
Your ATKT p1 with 2 people screen.
Your ALeshen solo kill screen.

Don't make me wait, peasant.

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You're thinking Status, not Element. Status has a 1/3rd chance to proc on any hit, Element always goes off. Only a few attacks like GS charge or Bow rocks alter the element/status values being applied.

>All the moves
>Half of them are combos
>Switch moves literally the definition of a combo move

Bloodborne is not more complex than MH kiddo, it's basically 6 base moves per weapon.

Extremoth is only difficult because it barely plays like monhun at all.
AT autism has nothing on frontier autism.

frontier has the dumbest shit but also the most hilarious shit like that atomic rubber chicken

I remember a big complaint with both Gen and World being that monsters die too fast desu
Although that's ignoring that they aren't G-Rank games.

>Dude if you can't do these literally impossible by design things then you can't say the game is easy

>Extremoth is a gimmick fight tho.
?

but I beat AT nerg and I'm a filthy casual, while it took me hours to defeat gold rajang in MH4U

Can you tell me why people need to post gimmick solo Speedruns exactly?

>Extremoth is a gimmick fight tho.
youtube.com/watch?v=7fuIYTFT2yk

Post your SOLO EXTREME BEHEMOTH KILL.

your trip

>that damage control

C O P E

sure, gimme a sec
*opens up cheat engine*

Considering one of the biggest hurdles on Extremeoth team fights IS you can overDPS him and cause a meteorless big meteor.

Yes, they die too fast; the way they countered this was adding like double the HP for some AT fights.

What's the matter? Wasn't it "casual easy game"?
Why are you backpedaling so hard now?
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t. never tried FU's old fatalis
youtube.com/watch?v=Ynr4A6Mwh7w
>gets hit by a small tail twitch
>chunk of HP gone

how about just showing idk maybe a naked run of the mhf2/fu 2 rajang in an arena quest and tell me if that's not harder than those gimmicky fights without actually being a gimmicky fight

Are you retarded? None of them are combos, transforming attacks are not combos. Follow ups are not combos. Look up the definition of combo you stupid idiot.

>Bloodborne is not more complex than MH kiddo
More complex? It's not.
Better? For sure.
Complex doesn't mean good. Footsies are the best part of any kind of fight and the souls formula is nothing but footsies.

>kiddo
Whatever, you're just being an idiot for the sake of it at this point. Go die in a gutter with your shitty game.

Extremoth is more difficult than anything in the shitty Nintendo games. Cope.

>Fight literally has MMO mechanics
>Not a Gimmick fight

The thing is, you're trying to say World isn't easy using some absolutely hilarious standards.

There is nothing wrong with World being an easier MH game. There is something wrong deluding yourself into thinking it's not.

He's a TAutist, leave him alone.

>Your ATKT p1 with 2 people screen.
I can't even pretend this is a fun thing to do. Kulve brought the wrong kind of grinding to MH.

except mhfu isn't even on a nintendo console it's on a playstation console, try harder with your console war bait

>Transforming attacks are not combos.

By the sheer mechanics on how they work, they need to be comboed into a basic attack first you fucking retard.

NO MY EXTREMOTH AAAAAAAAAAAH

Behemoth is pretty much a regular monster outside of enmity. He's also very difficult and I never get tired of COPE posters like you saying "he doesn't count!"

BING BING WAHOOO

What he meant is it's piss easy if he gets his skilled friends to do the hunts for him multiplayer.

>He's very difficult

But he's not though. He's literally a damage sponge that can spazz out his own mechanics.

>ebin memeteor straight out of a MMO fight
>regular

>All of these moves are different attacks from 0
>Including transforming attacks and follow-ups
Fromshills everyone

people uses extremoth to say mhw isn't easy, bitch try frontier z it has literal raid events

Look up the definition of combo.
Basic attacks and transforming attacks don't combo. No attacks in bloodborne combo.

Yes and that makes him difficult.

>"MMO mechanics"
Tornadoes were in MH previously. Meteors were in MH previously. Aggro was already in MHW (Challenger Mantle).
Behemoth isn't very different than anything else, COPE

how about some prooves?

>You need to be a speedrunner to claim a game is easy.

What kind of autist logic is this?

???
youtube.com/watch?v=ckDvCjvWaIM

I THOUGHT MH GLORIOUS HUNTERS ARE TIERS ABOVE IN TERMS OF SKILL COMPARED TO SOME """MMO PEASANTS""" but it seems like I was wrong?

??

You can't do shit even in extremely dumbed down MMO-like content and can't solo it?

LOL
Sweetie, it seems like you wouldn't even COMPREHEND Vanilla WoW raids like Naxx or AQ and even normal 5-men instances would be extremely challenging and borderline impossible for you.

frontier has very little to do with monhun

Fatalis has been dropping Meteors since 2nd Gen. COPE

yes cause only in mhw can you fucking call a japanese player to save your noob ass lol, and people say it isn't piss easy

and there it is, every single MH thread gen and console wars pop up, now we just need the autist with the pasta and the cycle will be complete

>No attacks combo
>Transforming attacks literally need an opening attack
>Most attacks have a one two swing where the second swing is literally unaccessable without the first swing.

What you're doing is equivalent to saying Bayonetta is the hardest action game (it's not, but still) because of the shoot em' up sections. If you really can't see why inserting mechanics from an entirely different genre doesn't make something hard on its own, you're stupid.

Kulve's p1 is extremely fun and satisfying.
Obviously you never did it, shitter.

Fromshills everyone

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Why do you think the consolewarring has dried up since World's announcement? Perhaps it was only a meme waiting to die down after all.

>but half of the critiques for world apply to any HR game so I wonder how many of the "old fans" really are sometimes.
I suppose I can only speak for myself, but none of my complaints about it can be reduced to the fact that it is a HR game. Fundamental things like subtle changes in a lot of player and monster movement, and map design are a thorn in my side. Of course World is not the first game to have verticality gimmicks, but I begrudgingly accepted them in previous games thinking they would be fine-tuned, not doubled down upon. I view a lot of changes in third and fourth gen as such.
>Have you been on Yea Forums since world was announced?
See above.
>They're just never going to be as comfortable to me as a nice chair and a tv/moniter.
This is fair, yet the comfort of knowing that you're not limited to your one video game room can be a boon, too.
>It's a fundamentally multiplayer series to me.
We will have to agree to disagree. Personally, with how monsters and hunters move, I can only see other people in the same hunt as detractors.

>and doesn't rely entirely on quantity over quality like most World Speedruns are
Except all his times are shit?

?
It's just average times for casual MHW players.

I supposed """"""""""""""""VETERANS""""""""""""""" can only barely clear such content in multiplayer, wasting at least 30+ minutes.

>Why do you think the consolewarring has dried up since World's announcement?
they haven't, look at this thread, look at any MH thread, every single one has console wars out the ass

>Dude the average casual mhw player can solo extremoth

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>Getting this mad people are pointing out gimmick fights for their gimmicks.

I don't get it; Gimmick fight does not suddenly mean it's a bad fight, I actually quite like Behemoth as a fight because it means you can think a little different.

You sound like a very insecure set of 12 year olds; who thinks because the Monster Hunter game is now on X console, you need to rabidly defend it from the rest of the MH fanbase.

World is just an easier installment with a very heavy lean on the gimmick event monsters. It's a simple fact.

No one ever actually disliked Nerg. The only person is probably that one weirdo who wants to fuck Valstrax and thinks Nerg is "competition" or some weird shit.

post prooves or stfu kid

Fuck me you are an angry little person ain't you? Was World your first Monster Hunter buddy?

>look at this thread
Where? Using ctrl+f I can only see one post explicitly trying to consolewar, for either side.

I didn't try it on AT Kulve because the one time I did it on regular Kulve with /mhg/ I felt nothing due to how shit the fight is. Fuck Kulve, fuck you, and fuck the Kulve weapon grind.

t. did literally everything else several times over

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Back to your containment general

The TA guys bitching because of all the new moves involving the slinger ammo they banned is hilarious.

Every other monster hunter was complete garbage, you'd need some really fucking shit taste to start with anything but World

Val and Nerg share no relation whatsoever other than being flagships.

Even regular behemoth is harder than all of FU's G rank outside of white fatalis. You're just wrong

Stay filtered, trashcan.

>Was World your first Monster Hunter buddy?

Thanks for beta testing previous beta versions and mobile trash.
Finally Capcom could produce a good MH game such as World after trying for years.

Are you retarded ? It's not the fact there's meteors it's the difference in which you avoid them

I'd rather be a filtered trashcan than someone who believes Kulve in any form is fun.

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imagine finding the kulve grind fun lol, this is just the relic weapons on 4u but made fucking shit

I wouldn't mind if Nerg dive bombed into me if you fellas know what I'm saying

I really like the new movement for the most part and think most weapons have their best ever movesets. Like I said I accepted the series change a while ago.

It hasn't, it's in every thread including this one.

I have no desire to play games outside my designated room. Especially not if the cost is discomfort.

Yes they can be detractors, but that makes it more fun. The monster is less predictable. I always considered 2 man to be peak monhun. It scales up the monster makes it less predictable but you don't overwhelm it.

You first
*dab*

Oh shit will he ever recover

fpbp

My friend who was hired to help with booth set ups at E3 says Capcom has a big Velkhana statue. So maybe we'll get another reveal?

that's an obvious bet, why would capcom not do it?

>I really like the new movement for the most part and think most weapons have their best ever movesets. Like I said I accepted the series change a while ago.
I haven't, and I think most movesets are now at the point where adding to them has done more bad than good. Long sword is the most obvious example. I don't think counter moves ever should have made it into MH in the first place, really.
>It hasn't, it's in every thread including this one.
Where? I see maybe one post skimming over the thread.
>The monster is less predictable.
I bought into MH as it being a game that thrives on predictability and anticipation, a slow and methodical game. Why go through the effort of so elaborately crafting all of these animations that are balanced to be punishable on both sides, and then have multiplayer have no middle ground between a monster that is thrashing about and lying down almost fully immobilized.

I HATE WORLD SHITTERS SO MUCH!
DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!
FUCK CAPCOM I HOPE THEY STOP MAKING MONHUN AGAIN FUCK THIS GAME!

FUCK CAPCOM I HOPE THEY STOP MAKING MONHUN AGAIN FUCK THIS GAME!

You're not wrong of course user, I just don't wanna get too hyped. I'd be happy with some more Glavenus footage even

Your pills, schizo.

>he doesnt enjoy MH regardless of console
Imagine being a poorfag

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KILL YOUR SELF YOU FUCKING SHIT!

>literally impossible
yea its definitely impossible OH WAIT PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME AND POST IT ON YOUTUBE NO LESS

I hate that Yea Forums likes AT Nerg even though he's a textbook example of "it wasn't hard before, so we just pumped up its numbers across the board and gave it a new move that covered its weaknesses." People used to bitch about the Garuga because BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE wasn't fun, but now you have a monster where you have to commit to attacks to areas that might get you snap piledrived or risk the fight turning into BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE ROAR EMERGENCY DIVE for like a straight minute.

Difficulty fetishists who can only feel the faintest hint of emotion when gatekeeping other players already resulted in Frontier's autism. Now you have something similar building in MHW's post-release content. I still actually like Behemoth, but Lunastra and Leshen are fucking cancer. Difficulty is soon going to be comprised solely of "this monster does constant residual damage, has persistent AoEs, and does fuckhuge damage with every single attack".

And none of that sounds like Monster Hunter.

this drawing is very cute

it is now because of world lol

And That's A Good Thing

LHB has a true combo. Trick it in neutral, immediately R1>R1.

Monster Hunter has bullshit since day one.
Roar combos have always been a thing, and as long they stay, you can't really complain about anything being unfair.

When it comes to AT Nerg, his new dive punishes players who attack mindlessly and overcommit. The reason why so many people find it hard now is because they're used to being able to spam super moves like Helm Breaker and SAED with little punishment. AT Nerg will destroy you if you try that.

>this monster does constant residual damage, has persistent AoEs, and does fuckhuge damage with every single attack
This started in 4U though, you can't blame World for something it didn't even make.

Nergigante? more like niggergante

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>This started in 4U though
Which monster(s)?

>be a pathetic manbaby and play a handheld
no

Shagaru lays mines down with huge area of effect damage, hurts like shit in endgame and has some pretty suspicious hitboxes.

a literal tribabby

Oh yeah, fuck I hated that cunt so much I blocked him out of my memory.

Git fucked.

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I want to fuck a big cute monster (male)

mh1 was really bullshit desu. Cephadrome is fucked up. Every monster you encounter is permanently surrounded by a whirling vortex of bullfango. Timing out after fifty minutes is a real possibility and it’s way worse than triple carting to some AT shit after five minutes because you couldn’t stop doing your UNGA max damage rotation with pure offense skills for two seconds. The time it takes to gather materials for one quest plus the quest time itself puts you back HOURS if you time out. And if you fail a couple times in a row, you’re probably out of zennie to even take the quest. MH1 May technically be normal rank only, but it feels like you start in g rank and there’s absolutely no quality of life shit.

freedomfags do not respond telling me your nerfed version of normal rank was not that hard I already know

Go get fucked by Dalamadur.

I didn't say anything about roar combos. I brought up Nerg's roar into dive bomb to illustrate how the fight can turn into passive defense playing since of you aren't committing to heavy attacks here and there, crossing your fingers that he doesn't decide to cancel an animation into snap Piledriver, you aren't going to be breaking his spikes, so they'll harden (they do it very quickly for AT), which means you're bouncing everywhere, which means you'll play defensively since an errant bounce could get punished with a snap piledriver or jab, so you're just waiting until he does his divebomb that breaks all his spikes.

I don't think I used the word "bullshit" or "unfair" at all in my post. It's just tedious since you have to play a very specific way or get slapped with OHKO moves. It's not fun.

Fucking cringe shitposting thread. Post your favorite monsters

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Die furries

You could emulate. I emulated mh1 and mhfu and had a blast. They’re good games and don’t require a powerful pc.

It is /in/ Iceborne.

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Gore

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I don't want to fuck Uragaan though, faggot.

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Why is it that oldfags who played F1/F2/FU generally like World but zoomers that started with Tri/MH4 are eternally seething?

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I don't remember MH1 feeling like bullshit at all aside from the piscine wyverns being total dicks unless you had Sonic bombs, Rathalos world tour, and Plesioth hip check. Monsters had barely different movesets and you could stand under them with a Lance all the way through HR20. I played all endgame content with Shinobi Moon and either Chrome Razor or BDS.

The inventory management was the other worst part, but QoL has erased that problem.

I like gypceros and lavasioth and Kirin.

the most chad monster

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Lightning doggo will always be my favorite, fucking 3rd portable was so good

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I used golem blade for basically the whole game because I didn’t know what weapons were good or what the upgrade trees were which probably affected my experience on the game

Seek help, schizo.

Consolewar faggotry and autistic brand loyalty. That's literally all it is.

Oh yeah. He's out now, isn't he.
I bet Gunlance shits all over him, just like it does everything else.

>Mad World subhumans replying to this
Top fucking kek. Nice video. ATs are straight up garbage for retarded people.

>tfw no pet mud dog that headbutts your wardrobe at 3am

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I don't understand the correlation.
t. started with Tri and have 700 hours in World

Still a retarded furfag that somehow gets fixated to a monster.

Don't you have a favourite monster user?

The two best boys

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Toss up between Zino and Narga. God I fucking hope Zinogre comes to World.

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Or could it be that you're projecting your scapegoating assumptions onto blank spaces? You've responded to a post that criticizes World with literally zero indication as to which game they think is best.

I have a favorite catloli because I'm not cringe

Yikes, do you even play MH? everyone has a favorite monster, for me is Khezu.

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wyverians are monsters dipshit

Golem Blade+ was the strongest GS you could get for a long stretch of the game. Valkyrie Blade was only available when you got to Rathian. Then you either went Sieglinde or Siegmund.

The other GS options had abysmal sharpness ratings.

But you don't hunt them.

Forgot to add at the end: so your only GS options late game were Siegmund, Sieglinde, Chrome Razor, or Red Dragon Slasher.

But everyone just built Black Dragon Spear and Arbalest+ as they were far and away the best weapons for Lao, Fatalis, and doing LnS plate runs.

>The great Gunhammer war

MH on E3 today, right? ETA?

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I dunno about today but theres an Iceborne stream on the 12th

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Tism tiger

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The Queen

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Shitmoth's attacks track you, meaning the entire concept of positioning goes out the window in favor of anime-esqu evasions and counters. Worst monster in the franchise, and nothing else even comes close. I had more fun killing Shen gaoren with a boomerang.

For me it is the Nargacuga

Newfag that's played since MHFU but never interacted with anyone online until some time after World came out. Was the shitposting always this bad?

>played world on ps4 because i wanted it ASAP
>had no friends, or online
>iceborne coming
>no friends on ps4 still, tons on PC

Do I take the 3 month wait and having to rebuy+replay world on PC?

It used to be a circlejerk but now it's consolewar faggotry.

it only really got this bad after World was announced, there was some bickering when X and XX came out because they changed so much but World brought the shitposting to a whole new level, both console warriors and people complaining about the game itself brought threads to pretty much undiscussable levels

je suis monte!

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Unironically World made her fun to me
I don't know what's wrong since I hate Teo

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On the bright side at least we aren't /mhg/

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Worst part is finding out that a janitor is part of the shitposting clique

Nope, I'll tell you how thing used to be, we used to be a community that helped anyone that asked for help, there wasn't console war bullshit or at least not at this disgusting degree, the only shitpost was about "muh weapon > your weapon", "git gud followed by actual advise" or "muh favorite monster, best monster I want to fuck it"

There has always been a constant air of elitism but you can just ignore it, now is just console war autists and something even worse than tribabies, worldfetuses.

Truth is that any real MonHun fan would just follow the games to whatever platform the mainline series go.

lance best weapon, eat shit GL niggers.

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Perhaps you're a braindead normie who prefers cutting weaponry and has zero regard for hitzones?

Mizutsune in a box!

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>Truth is that any real MonHun fan would just follow the games to whatever platform the mainline series go.
*would just keep liking the game regardless of how it changes and then discards dissenting opinion as consolewarring

I don't understand the implications.

It's worse now. Before Monster Hunter threads were always full of shitposting, but usually it was gameplay related typically.

Obviously there are a lot of people who don't like world because of how much it's changed the game, but there are World Fags who constantly defend their game via console warring. I have to assume many of these people are new to the series and don't really know what the older games are like, so they just claim that anyone who doesn't like world is a Nintendo fanboy. I assume this is because they are so unfamiliar with the series that they don't know the gameplay of the older games and they also don't know that Monster Hunter has been playable on Sony consoles and PC.

That's every /vg/ thread of moderate size. Every time a new janny hiring cycle goes out a bunch of 19 year olds who think they need to "save" the thread enforce their own brand of autism until they get bored/fired and the cycle repeats.

Cute!

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As is befitting of your kind.

>Every shitposters is world shitter
I guess people who post that pasta was a world shitter too, right?

Been getting worse every new title.
3U, 4U and World were big highlights with each title being more popular. More popularity = more new fags = more shitposting. World sadly broke the camel's back when it comes to /vg/ but again its been not good since 3U.
Yea Forums threads are sort of shill though.

What's wrong exactly about using 90% of melee weapons?

>Every shitposters is world shitter
Where did I say that? If anything I clearly stated the opposite, since I mentioned shitposting before World.

Doesn't matter, the game is flawed at its core

List of problems with Monster Hunter World:

>Inb4 "b-but nintendo..."

>Healing while running, can dodge while healing, move while shooting
>Many other actions can also be dodged out, including sharpening
>Traps are placed almost instantly
>Weapons in general are more mobile and stronger, think adept + brave movesets from XX combined
>Except for the hunting horn, the weakest weapon in 4U and Generations, which got NERFED in World thanks to the removal of double note system
>Overall DPS for weapons was raised significantly, up to G rank levels in a High Rank game
>Even easier mounting thanks to much lower mounting threshold (sometimes activating the mount after 1 hit), with the grappling hook taking you right back into the monster even if you fall off as a consequence of an attack
>Environment recovers health, puts the monster to sleep, paralyzes it, etc.
>You have access to your full box even during hunts, meaning you can stock up on healing items anytime
>Mantles give you OP abilities like no knockback, never be seen by the monster unless you attack or a full new health bar
>Monsters have been given more generous weakspots, the main example is Diablos with a 40 MV in its head for blunt weapons, as well as a new 45/63/40 weakspot on its head, making them more exploitable
>The changes above wouldn’t be so bad were it not for the fact that monsters DO NOT adapt to these changes, resulting in an incredibly easy game from start to finish
>The monsters themselves are also very slow and passive when compared to the old gens, they rarely string attacks together and have slow and predictable attacks in general
>The only change to tempered monsters are their damage and maybe their HP, so don’t expect actual challenge there. What a joke.

Do you seriously not get the correlation between Lunastra and cutting weapons?

yeah it's pretty much the best quest in world
had lot's of fun hunting with my friends
i hope they make each monster on iceborn on that level but maybe that's expecting too much

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The pasta is posted to made world shitters mad when the threads get out of hand

>when the threads get out of hand
Explain further.

Not really because I'm more puzzled about what would be bad about it.

>IG

>playing 3u for the first time in years
>downward strike with a greatsword
>it hits
>monster doing a tails wipe right as it connects
>tail just barely misses me as my character is hunched over from the downward strike
I now understand what you guys mean when you talk about worlds janky hitboxes, also that few frames of lag when you're about to get carted in world is so gay, and yet it still exists

Every new shitpost after world came out always targeted at world, not the other way around you dumb fuck.

>World vet here

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bing

I'm implying that you play the game with your brain turned off and like Lunastra because every hitzone for cutting is equally shitty besides the wings and it encourages standing underneath it and infinitely comboing.

If that makes the game fun then alright.

>Obviously there are a lot of people who don't like world because of how much it's changed the game, but there are World Fags who constantly defend their game via console warring.

Not biased at all, chief.

I'm sure the people who spam that copypasta over and over, going out of their way to make it like 6 posts instead of just using the more easily ignored image that was made first, are Worldbabs.

I think World haters being fanny flustered is funny though. There were so many of those posts about how World is misguided and will flop because only Japan buys it and they won't buy it because it isn't on a handheld. Anyone who said this needs to eat their crow.

For the life of me I don't uderstnd why people say "it's not real MH"

I can only assume you have a mental disorder (realistically unlikely given the large population) or you're some sort of asshurt nintendofag desperately trying to take to task any game not on your platform of choice

>First I did some Googling, and was heartened to find plenty of people online who were hitting the same wall I was.
>No one had a silver bullet tip that’d make the fight “easy,”
>turns out the quest gives you some in your item box, I just hadn’t paid enough attention to realize it was telling me to use them.
>Fifteen minutes passed, then 30
>Unfortunately, I had burned through all my traps, so there was nothing left but to kill the creature.
>That entire fucking article
>The fucking comments

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This hits the nail on the hesd
>FU and portable 3rd people argue over which is better
>shitpost and spam mh memes
>at the end of the day we get along and talk about our favorite monsters
>Psp and 3DS players argue over which is better
>shit posting and psp boomers missing the good Ole days while 3ds zoomers like the QoL
>they're both still well within the realm of mh and in the end we all get along and talk about our favorite monsters
>Gen and XX chads argue with both the 3ds and Psp fans
>everyone makes fun of Gen being an anime game but it's all taken in stride and shit posting
>World fags can't handle that someone might not like their watered down game and get all fucking defensive turning it into this "NUH UH THIS GAME IS HARD! POST YOUR NAKED NO ITEMS 3 AND A HALF SECOND BEHEMOTH FIGHT"
I miss when we'd just talk about big monsters and hammerbros

>turns out the quest gives you some in your item box, I just hadn’t paid enough attention to realize it was telling me to use them.

this can't be real right?

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this game became uninstalled garbage the second they nerfed flash pods

i'm not a NEET, i don't have time to chase your garbage damage sponge that doesn't react to anything

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(you)

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Please tell me it's HR Diablos at least

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i'm right. literally nobody i know plays this shit anymore.

Is 5* considered HR? I haven't done that shit in so long I can't remember.

Not sure, I skimmed the article and he says "towards the end of the story" but fighting nergi is part of the story and I refuse to believe anyone found the most vanilla iteration of diablo harder than nergi, with or without flash pods

Looked it up. First time you can fight a Diabos is at the end of LR.

Jesus fucking christ

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Friendly reminder that Rathalos is a cuck

>Biased
Spamming a copypasta is shitposting, but there is a huge difference between someone saying "World is bad because of these gameplay changes" and someone else saying "You just don't like it because it's not on a Nintendo console."
The first person is actually saying what they dislike about World as a game. The other person is just insulting the other person for arbitrary reasons. Even if both are shitposting, the former is infinitely better because it's discussing how the game plays, not the person making the posts.

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Kut-ku, Astalos, Steve
What else?

transmogging in GU allows you to combine the skills of one set with the looks of another. Other than that, you are correct, all the previous games make you look retarded for having a meta set.

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didn't read but bing

If I want to get into this autistic shit, should I get one of the handhelds or just wait for World to go on sale?

Which weapon screams "damn, this hunter is high IQ"?

if you have a good computer you can emulate all previous games, I'd recommend FU for something more classic or 4U for something newer

The hunters.

Thanks m8.

None.

What the fuck even Kut-ku

CB is peak autism.

Bowguns are also somewhat technical, not in MHW tho.

Unironically bow.

That's how Garuga came to be.

bump