How did Tales Of series go so far away from good and clever writing

OLD GAME GOOD

I just got Tales of Vesperis on PS4 and the game is dogshit. They are talking in some sort of anime language and there are typos all over the fucking place. It doesn't help that the combat really isn't fun.

It's far past it's going golden age, which ended after Vesperia.

nah you should play abyss and vesperia they are fully realized games that have as much or more content as symphonia

Lol I can only imagine what shitty video games you play

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How do you want it, Yea Forums?

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I am playing now Abyss on the 3ds and it's not that bad

Abyss is one of the best.

Zelos > Kratos

Berseria was good coming off of the dumpster fire that was Zestiria, but still had a lot of shit that made Zestiria annoying carried over into it. It wasn't bad, but it only really excelled in having a cast that was rather unique for the series.

>No puzzle
>Everything is fuckhuge, temples have 20 m high ceiling for no good reasons
>Corridors : The game
ToS is still very good to this day

To be fair, Vesperia's combat doesn't really start to shine until about halfway through the game when you actually get enough Artes to actually play around with. Raven and Judith for example are dogshit until you get most of their toolset then they become fun as fuck.

LOL

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>Bosses can sometimes pop a "!" in a circle even while staggered
>You quickly have to get out or their attack will hit you
>Constant QTE in battle
>Magic becomes even bigger and effectful
>Milla can set the whole battlefield in flames, making the game unplayable for others if you're in multiplayer
>Try to notice the "!" through all the magic effects
It's only one of many complaints I have for those games. The only one I've finished was Graces, but I didn't even buy them.

>>Bosses can sometimes pop a "!" in a circle even while staggered
>>You quickly have to get out or their attack will hit you
Nothing bad with that, Hearts R did it better but it's a good system, I can understand the complaint about the visual cue though, it wasn't a good decision.

why do you cucks shit on berseria so damn much, it has one of the most well written MC out there in video games. Why must you always want cringy cliche writing in your games?

Big nope. Berseria was a step back in the right direction and it had one of the best casts since a long time but that was it.
A damn shame because the new Tales game looks like we're going straight back to moralfaggotry the party. Berseria was a breath of fresh air in that regard.

they're diehard fan bois that have this nostalgia on their previous games lol so they shit on anything new looking like boomers

>it has one of the most well written MC out there in video games.
No.
>Why must you always want cringy cliche writing in your games?
That's real rich coming from an underage defending Berseria.

Because having an interesting cast wasn't enough to save it from the multitude of other problems it had. Despite that, I still see people propping it up far more than shitting on it just because they were glad it wasn't as bad as Zestiria was.

Nope, when this guy stopped working on tales it was all over.

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Couldn't stomach Vesperia, didn't even bother trying the rest. At least Berseria was written well enough for me to finish it

It was a half assed game carried hard by the amazing party.

Glad you confirm you don't have an opinion.

I liked Graces F though I understand why people dislike it.
Xillia 1 was lackluster.
Xillia 2 is a mixed bag. The combat is good and it has a lot of interesting ideas and plot points, but the re-used stuff from the first game really shows.
Zestiria is the only one I never managed to finish simply because I was completely disengaged with the characters and plot and the gameplay wasn't even enough to make up for it.
Berseria was better than Zestiria and I liked the characters and battle system once I got used to it, but after beating it I haven't had the slightest urge to ever go back and play it again.

Eternia and Symphonia are my favorites in the series. I have fond memories of Abyss but haven't played it in a while. I picked up Vesperia DE recently but I'm having a hard time getting back into it for some reason. I can't even really bring myself to be excited for Arise but I'll keep an eye out for it I guess. The series just really feels like the next game needs to make a huge splash to pull it out of the funk its been through over the years.

ENGULF us*

that was surprisingly okay. certainly better than 99% of western game stories

>I can't even really bring myself to be excited for Arise but I'll keep an eye out for it I guess
Same, curious to see it in motion though because the new engine looks just like the old engine with some tweaks.
Also not a fan of the main character design. At least the guy doesn't seem to be wearing belts.

At least one of the good things about Tales is that there's always alt costumes if you don't like a character's base design. I don't know if I would have been able to finish Graces if I had to look at Asbel in his stupid disco suit the whole game.

But the disco suit is amazing.

Yeah but anime cutscenes.

In 10-15 years the series has barely changed and downright fucking regressed. You could honestly tell someone Beseria was the awkward sequel that came out 2-3 years later for the PS3 and they might believe you.

too many pearl clutchers think video games are too mature

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Fuck off berseria is good, Frogposter

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EYE DWELL
AMIDST THE ABOUNDING LIGHT OF HEBUN

my nigga

symphonia was miles better than berseria, the dungeons in berseria are boring copypaste corridors with no puzzles beyond "press space at context location" the combat is incredibly shit and I hate it, fuck removing basic attacks, fuck the soul system and fuck having to tailor a moveset towards countering an enemy type

gear management feels like shit in that game too, for the point that I'm at in the game every piece of gear has been sidegrades to the gear each character starts with.

>get Vespiria because I hear it's one of the best Tales games
>it's one of the most boring that I've played
>more boring than hearts and graces

Berseria would have been better if it hadn't had any connections to Zestiria.

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>never played Zesty
you really should have played zesty first

Why do you play tales in japanese when there are good english translations?

>when there are good english translations?
>good english translations
Go be an EOP somewhere else.

Only 3D ones worth playing are Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia
Everything after Vesperia is pure shit

Why learn japanese when all the good media is translated? Learn Chinese which is more profitable,.

t. EOP.

There's no translation at all for Rody's games

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why, I heard it was shit, the only reason I'm playing berseria is because someone gave me a free copy and I don't have anything else to play atm

I guess it's one of those weird things. 16 years ago my older brother's friend got me into JRPGs and anime. He adamantly believed that the Japanese was better because it was closer to the original vision of the creators. I didn't get it and didn't like to read but he pretty much forced and insulted me and told me how disappointed he was with me anytime he caught me watching/playing something made in Japan but in English. Anyway, I really liked him and was romantically interested in him so I did my best to make sure he wasn't disappointed. So that's why. Can't really watch anything without the Japanese voiceovers because it feels wrong.

Shame

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I cringe every time I hear the english VA for laphicet otherwise I would

a lot of the gameplay systems are the same from zesty so you would have a better understanding of what you were getting into

zestiria is not the greatest tales by any measure but it definitely is better than what people say
the story is actually pretty good and lailah is 10/10

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>If there is [concept thought up by mankind] in this world, it lies within [...] mankind.
Wow, really deep.

My exact thoughts.
Couldn't even bring myself to finish it.
The story just goes nowhere, no character has any ambition to do something.

Berseria is the best tales since vesperia. Not really saying much though.

>Berseria is the best tales since vesperia.
Xillia 2 and Hearts R are leagues above Berseria, Vesperia is also wildly overrated, like all of Team Symphonia's stuff.

just learn Japanese you can

がんばる

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Because I'm not letting the 2 years I served as a Missionary in Japan go to waste.

Mormon church is pretty whack but I quite literally thank the Lord I was "called" to serve in Japan instead of some third-world locale.

...did we play the same game?

What the HECK is THAT

Sorry, I'd rather learn both French and Japanese.

>Laughs in moonrunes

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Xillia 2 would have been so much better if the first one doesn't exist.

EET ENDS HYAR
INDEEG-NAYSHUN

>dubbed
absolutely based

I enjoyed Symphonias combat the most of the few Tales games I’ve played. I wish they’d go back to that

Its easy user here let me breakdown this sentence.

これ、
ko re
Means this, but can be used also like "here"

ホット
Ho tto
Borrowed word from english, literally means hot, same as english.

コーヒー
ko hi

another borrowed word, means coffee.

togheter:

コレ、ホットコーヒー
kore, hotto kohi

this (here (as in take this here)), hot coffe.

My nigga. Some fag tried to tell me Magilou’s dub voice was trash in another thread

Hearts R was such a good game, damn.
I was kinda hoping for another low budget remake game for the switch, since these seem to turn out way better than the mainline ones.

that's the point he's making user. He's saying don't take videogames so seriously.

Sorry, I meant

これ、ホットコーヒー

didn't mean to use katakanas for これ, although it can be understandable katakanas should only be used for borrowed words. But japanese people use it more liberally in non-professional environments.

>Being an evangelizing theist
What a fag

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>abyss
Maybe if it gets a proper remaster in the future.

I'm delighted so many people are shi tting on besreria and vesperia

Fuck those games

Trails series vs Tales series?

Tales series sucks donkey dinky.

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Trails is too weeb for me.
A friend of mine showed me one that started with like 16 characters or something and then it played more like a light novel than an rpg.

What about Oregon Trails?

Why do people like this series? It looks so bland

I wouldnt want to play it on a ps2 these days because its a 50 hrs game and I dont trust sony memory cards. pcsx2 runs the game pretty damn good

anime style oregon trail would be lit

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Tales is bigger across the world then both Dragon quest and Persona

Even though sen is kinda garbage, it's still better than whatever tales has shat out.

How would tales players feel if

>Lloyd got the spot in smash bros
>Yuri got the spot in smash bros
>Velvet got the spot in smash bros

I mean, its just a matter of time until tales gets their rep.

Tales is for retards

Because there are many weaboos in this world and the majority of them are fans of this trash franchise

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>lloyd
neat
>yuri
neat
>velvet
"no"

That both opens up Tales to a whole lot of anime derangement syndrome shitposting, and more console war frenzy because it would be another Joker situation(newest mainline game not even coming to switch)

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Tales will get in as mii costumes

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Tales was never good or clever. It was just slightly better than it is right now.

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I wouldn't mind which one of them got in.

I'd be more interested in the gimmick. TP?
Refill with A attacks so you can use B attacks or make them stronger versions? (Tiger Blade -> Lightning Tiger Blade)

>frog posters have shit taste
What a surprise

Lloyd is honestly my favorite Tales protag. He's not the most well written and does learn on the generic side a bit, but there's something so goddamn charming about this dumb motherfucker.

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That doesn't make the writing clever in any way. It's the most cliche fucking A YOUNGU BOYU REAVES VIRRAGE TO SAVE WORLD bullshit.

And that's why I like it.

It has to be Lloyd because Tales of Symphonia was their best exclusive jrpg in the gamecube era.

I understand they have Vesperia now on the Switch but its not the same.

I would preffer either Lloyd or velvet since Yuri will just make boomers scream about anutha animu swrod man xd.

Lloyd has two swords (double the damage), and Velvet has her edgy hand and her blade is not a sword.

>Buy tales game in steam
>No japanese options

what a clown world lmao.

It's because he's a pure idiot, makes him feel very human.

>All Tales fans

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It's to prevent the japs from buying the games on PC. Not kidding.

but vesperia has japanese.

cry moar

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Huh, maybe they changed their approach recently.
Hope they don't fall back to their old ways with arise.

Oh well its not like I can use tales to learn nihongo because skits are played automatically in veperia (or I can't find the option to only go to the next dialogue manually).

So I'll keep playing ni no kuni instead

Puchimas has better storylines and characters than Berseria, Symphonia, and Vesperia. Admit it.

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I'm guessing you think Vesperia is their latest release since it got a remaster recently, but that one is quite old now. It is the best tho.

You guys need to stop fanboying Tales and start watching Puchimas

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I want to fug Magilou

>puchimas
based and redpilled

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No, you should fug chihya

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Yeah, it's borderline trash

That's why everyone should watch puchimas instead of playing the trash game.

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Did any other boomer sit down, and realize FF and Tales died a horrific death the day they ditched the world map?
I don't think the world map did it (Dragon Quest survived just fine), but it was more of a bad omen.
It's factually better than all the following entries, that speaks a lot about the series.

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Is it worth buying Tales of Vesperia on PS4 now that it's on sale?

No, you should stay away from Tales franchise for your own sake.

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Why so?

Don't respond to it.

Because Puchimas is better than any Tales games.

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No it's not, for all of their faults Xillia and Berseria felt more respecting of the player's time and the combat wasn't trash right out the gate

I have no idea what that is. I only watch Revolutionary Girl Utena. I'm just gonna buy the game in spite

God I love symphonia.

I've played most games but only managed to play through vesperia phantasia and symphonia. Most games get way too anime and cheesy.

Based (Vesperia is shit though)

>defending Xillia and Berseria this hard

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I don't know if I should get back to Berseria. I really like playing as different characters in this series but in Berseria it's like that didn't even matter since you just go ham with the artes and the lack of normal attacks is kind off putting. I couldn't care less about the story since it has been godawful since vesperia but atleast make the characters fun to play as

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Is this even real? I spent ten minutes looking for it but I came up with nothing.

I liked Emil and Marta

I gave Berseria a second chance and I had a lot more fun with it.

Hearts R, Graces F, Legendia and Eternia are my favorite entries.

vesperia is the peak of the series you dumb tranny

Yes, it is
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Maybe I should too. But I just feel lazy after playing for a bit

Nobody thinks the story of Vesperia is good right? I'm going to Zaphias again to save Estelle and the only remotely interesting thing that happened was Ravens heart being a blastia

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superb

So. What is hot, or cold?

You shouldn't. Don't waste your precious time.

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What the hell are the mods doing?

>good
>english translations
pick only one

>Dragon Quest
yes
>Persona
no

>symphonia has a dozen plot twists
>you know the bad guy from start in abyss

What's wrong?

Many franchises died a horrific death, especially JRPGs. Tales, FF, FE, Paper Mario, Golden Sun, maybe Pokemon. Also whatever is under Activision Blizzard, Bethesda and EA/Bioware.

It had a good natural start. The rest of the first two arcs is okay, but it really suffers from not showing Alexei's motivation. Third arc is where it takes a nosedive to no one cares. But the combat picked up by then, so that balances it out.

Well that explains why I love those 3 games the best in the series.

Isn't it funny that Berseria and Xillia 2 would be better than what they are if they weren't related to the games thnat came before them ?

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>Dragon Quest
>yes
You mean in the West where nobody has good taste.

What are talking about?

Yeah the story is just bland as hell.

Zestiria was one of the worst pieces of trash I've ever played, and Rose is an annoying slut.

Symphonia felt too anime and cheesy too.

Loud waifufags the game was an absolute flop as well.

Well at least the contrast with Xillia's party isn't that hard anymore.

do you guys prefer getting a game every 4 years or a sequel within 1-2 years

For a second, I thought that was a Xillia 1 screenshot. What the fuck happened? As much as I hated slogging through Graces, at least (pastel) Green Hill Zone was its own unique thing even next to previous titles.

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>What the fuck happened?
The answer to that question in a Tales thread is always Baba.

Is your Talesfu a Wo/Manlet?

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All kinds. The English script goes back and forth between straight and colloquial, too.

Oh boy, that is where the series is now isn't it?

Are these taken from "stats" or approximated from the character models? Either way I love it since half of these characters game from super-deformed games (and they sometimes contracted the non-chibi ones).

That they were annoying directionless kids was both the best and worst thing about them.

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Its taken from their official measurements. If it was approximated from the models it would be all over the place

am i blind where is regal?

I heard he was given his own studio and some project with Square Enix before the whole thing just got shut down before anything could happen.

Is it Japanese honor and an inability to let go of shitty things that keeps him employed?

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i never played them when they came out but i played them on steam and new tales are much better in everything including writing than symphonia

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I want to see Judith bully manlets.

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the idea that he lucks into saving the world because he's too dense to understand utilitarianism is kind of funny.

really is kind of a gary stu though.

Ah, figures.

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Symphonia 2 is good

>Ludger, Victor, Velvet, Raven and Cless are all 170cm
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY

Emil is still the most fuggable Tales protagonist. It's a shame the game was shit.

Underrated reference that neo-neo-v is too cucked to get

>Decide to replay ToV and finally download DE
>Somehow end up here
I'm not sure what happened, but now I have to fiddle with PCSX2 for 5 hours to make it not look like shit.

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>kind of
No, he is. He's literally just short of multi-colored eyes/hair for full effect.

It's one of the reasons I like Abyss so much. No one was perfect, even Tear who was supposed to be Ms. Perfect.

>Are these taken from "stats"
All tales of characters have official height/weight/measurement stats, and at a quick glance, those are all the official ones.

>Most popular male of the franchise is the 159cm manlet
What did they mean by this ?

>ToV
the fuck is this

Cute

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Lloyd is far from perfect. Don't forget his boneheaded heroics got his own village sacked. He's kind of like superman in that it's not so much that he is an unwavering idealist but how the world and people around him reacts to him

It's the power of Greenriver.

It's Legendia, how new are you?

What makes Vesperia the best for so many people? I only had a chance to play the first three or four hours on 360 way back.

Villiage attack is JRPG standard, it can't be helped. I've never felt like he actually failed at anything. Even when he fails. That's Gary Stu for you.

When Luke had the entire party hate him more than the usual bullying, that surprised me. Luke's failures felt like actual failures. Lloyd's feel more like set backs that plot and destiny will give back to him tenfold.

Lloyd's flaws were that he was dumb as hell and too optimistic and the other characters called him out on it multiple times throughout the story. Things just happened to work out in the end because protagonist and all that. Not saying he was deep or complex by any means, but he definitely wasn't portrayed as perfect or objectively right all the time. Hell, Genis and Raine were constantly dunking on him in every other skit.

>What makes Vesperia the best for so many people?
Not having played most of the series.

>How did Tales Of series go so far away from good and clever writing
Unironically since Phantasia, when half of that game's plot was cut in favor of a generic JRPG McGuffin hunt and time travel.

I think it's mainly Yuri. He sometimes kills bad guys and that's enough for most people.

Stuff like story and characters is is based on personal preference, but content wise Vesperia was the last Tales game that really felt "complete". It was jam packed with extra stuff and side content before the later games started making things like costumes and accessories DLC. It's not my favorite, but comparing it to all the games that came out after it you can really feel the hardwork and effort they put into making it while the later games all feel half-assed to various extents.

Iselia is a direct result of his actions though. He tried to help the old lady and broke the treaty between the desians and the village and the desians retaliated accordingly.

Just like Symphonia for many it was babbys first Tales.

Tales of Symphonia was utterly average and the only reason it's well remembered it's because the GameCube was starved for decent RPGs and because it was the first Tales of many people played.

Lloyd's stupidity was part of his charm. I didn't see it as a detriment when he had literal geniuses, an angel and the best of the best boosting him up and never letting him fall.

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The first and last arcs of it are shit, but anything in between is fucking amazing. It's a good game but it's not really consistent.

Much better.

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My cousins had a gamecube so I took my copy of Symphonia to them once on a visit because I wanted to play more, but forgot my memory card.
So started a new file with them playing along and they literally cried for the granny in the beginning.
I mean, really, who didn't ;__;

Cheesy can be good.

>legendia

shit game play xillia

Is Legendia good?
Only tales I haven't played.

It's...questionable.
I still prefer it to Symphonia in terms of gameplay but the game still has a lot of problems, and adds new problems that weren't in Symphonia.
The characters and their stories are arguably some of the best, if not the best in the series.
The music is easily the best in the series.
The dungeons are passable but the massive backtracking due to the characters' quests and postgame adding to the main game might be too much.

Let's say that if you can stomach Symphonia you won't have problems with Legendia gameplay wise, it's faster for most things, more fluid too and has some interesting mechanics all in all, it's still inferior to Destiny 2 however, and the lack of Hi-Ougi doesn't really make the game all that interesting compared to most of the other entries in its generation sans Symphonia, which to be fair can be excused by virtue of being THAT old and the first experiment with 3D, Legendia doesn't have that luxury despite adding some interesting stuff and looking a lot better too.

I've platted ToX1 and 2, and have spent a shitload of time in X2 otherwise. Last I checked, RPCS3 still has issues handling the different framerates.

I'm playing it for the first time in 12ish years so I can't comment, but the general opinion is that it's shit. If you want to emulate it, enable the merge sprite hack to get rid of the blur.

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Vesperia's start is super slow and a bad quality for most people, but I have to say I completely love it. It's relaxing and the characters fit together nicely when they meet each other.

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The characters mainly.

The girls are cute - naive Estelle, tsundere Rita, and flirty Judith. Yuri and Flynn also have one of the best bro relationship in Tales without making it seems homo as fuck like Sorey and Mikleo from Zesty.

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Thanks, I think I'll give it a try while waiting for Arise.

If you're talking sales numbers, then it's not beating Dragon Quest due to Japan's contributes alone.

It has Persona beat, but that's solely due to the mass volume of Tales games compared to Persona games, even counting the shitty spinoffs (P4U is good though).

do you like this art style?

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As long as it's not open world meme again, I dig it.

It feels like not granblue

The more homo a tales is, the better game is
Except for Zestiria.

reminder that the tales of destiny will never, ever be translated thanks to that shithead a0

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At its best, cute anime character banter and snappy real-time combat. Naturally which if any of the games actually accomplish these things are subject to debate, and they can drag something fierce.

Yup yup.

I really want to see it in action, see if the asset art has improved or if it is just lighting and fog obscuring it. Also do we have a male looking like Ludger and a female like Lailah?

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That's because dragon quest has that awful toriyama "art" ""style"" and persona is weeb trash

Is that Lailah?
Surely they would want to distance themselves as far as possible from Zestiria...?

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Dragonball art style is ridiculous

Lloyd is a complete dumbass, but damn his intuition is godlike.

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>without making it seems homo as fuck
They literally act like a married couple living in separate houses.

Lloyd wasn't perfect. He was just stubborn to the point where it seemed like he was crazy. And you know what? Heroes in real life don't happen unless they're at least a little crazy.

Lloyd only lucked out getting a special exsphere.

Say that to my face and not online, fucker.

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his special exsphere didn't do anything special until the literal last five minutes of the story

>They are talking in some sort of anime language
Anime language is not swearing after every phrase and speaking clearly without slurring words now apparently.

They're just giving her a good game like she deserves!

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Anyone who shits on Berseria's characters is a subhuman.

I only played Tales of Phantasia and it had one the blandest RPG writing I could imagine, so somewhere between RPG Maker fanfiction tier and FFV tier.

>tfw Symphonia & Berseria are my favorites

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The field was actually passable, though.
>not posting any one of the countless dungeons which have the layout of a dungeon crawler

Can someone remind me of any problems the PC port has and if they can be fixed, might replay it.

What's with the fucking frogposters lately? Tales threads used to be safe from children.

Did you play it recently or closer to it's release? It's a pretty bland "TECHNOLOGY BAD" kind of story, but for the time it was a good setting with some fun characters.

Also INDIGNATION

Never had a friend before?

You seem to have forgotten.

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>Presea
Definitely

I unironically really enjoyed Xillia 1 and 2.

Yes

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The most annoying thing to me in Zestiria was, you enter the dungeon and you immediately get the entire minimap of it.

At least in Berseria they fixed that.

Even with their glaring flaws, I still love him. His sufferings were so fucking amazingly desperate.

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Wh6 couldn't she have been the protag instead of emil

>No one ever talks about this game.

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>The part where Elle flips out and he calmly goes back to making more tomato soup.
Got me choked up.

I would honestly replay Xillia 2 if I could just auto skip to the free travel segment of the game. I distinctly remember getting to NG+ and having fun again around Chapter 5(?).

ok what did I miss in that girl?

I wanna fuck Lailah!

>Anime sequence before he kills his brother while he hums the trademark hymn.

Not_okay.jpeg

!

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same

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Is this from a doujin?
Also where's the Sophie posting?

>Lailah will never sit on your face while making bad puns

Existence is pain.

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>filename

Delet dis

What a simple but god tier design. Surprisingly done so little despite being slutty waifu bait.

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>Lailah will never step on me with her heels
Oh well.

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She's dead, son.
And threadly reminder, fuck gods, fuck malaks, fuck elementals, fuck merines, fuck aliens and most importantly, fuck spirits AND fuck Origin.
That is all.
Leave my daughter alone, degenerate.

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Lailah a best perky femdom

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this

Symphonia is incredibly fucking boring which is why it boggles me that Yea Forums has such a boner for it. The game gets stale very quickly even when you experiment with the party members and T/S skills, as well as the combined attacks. By the time I reached Yggdrasil the first time, I was hoping that would be the end. Then you have like another 30 hours of shit to go through. The combat is atrociously bad and it being the first 3D entry is not enough to justify that.

Still the best, cuck

Whatever happened to level designers for this series? None of them ever would've won any awards for level design, but at least they used to try.

>arrow tattoo pointing to her cooch
W-what?!

So did Lloyd fuck Colette?

I feel like Xilia gets more hate than it deserved. The writing was on the high end for your average Tales game and the entire cast was actually likeable and relevant. Xilia 2 also had arguably the best battle system in the series, or at least the most technical never played Berseria don't @ me.

It was very good for its day. It was one of my childhood RPGs and being a Nintendo fag we were starved for good RPGs.

Xillia 2 and Hearts R are leagues above Berseria
I can somewhat understand Xillia 2 even though I don't agree but Hearts R was shit.

The one thing Emil has going for him is that his situation requires the world and plot be explained, which is NEVER a bad thing for a JRPG sequel. But story-wise yeah, Marta's life was upended by the old characters actions, and it is not like she was aware enough of the wider world to be free of exposition.

>"Give the fun character a better game!"

The curse of cheap(ish) anine games- I feel like we say with a LOT.

Ah I hate it.

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They fell for the open areas with random shit everywhere meme.

Arche is the sexiest
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>Play Tales in Japanese

The Tales series is one of the many things that got me to learn Japanese years ago. I wanted to play ToP X and Destiny DC (played it before with a TL guide) and Vesperia PS3 and some others, but I haven't done most of that yet. Only reason I finally played Vesperia in Nip is because of the recent PC version.

The characters were absolute shit, all of them.

>His waifu dies
>The other guy's waifu who returned looks the same as his
I'd be fucking mad if I was Ludger, it just ain't fair

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>good english translations
Haha, ask me how I know you don't understand Japanese.

You do know only half of the voices were actually voiced in the English version of ToS, right?

Tales is pretty fucking easy to understand, why wouldn't you play it in Japanese?

ToS is the only tales game I played through and enjoyed. I tried ToA, but I hated the battle system and basically hated all the characters

I always assume that stuff like this comes from hardcore weeaboos or first year learners of Japanese. After seven years with the language and years spent learning about translations, I don't just as quickly and harshly I did when I used to. There's more bad than good though, I won't argue against that.

LIKE A TIGER

>Hearts R was shit.
Bold statement.

I don't know. I played everything from Japan in Japanese for like, five years and then I started playing in English more often.

Any way to play Asteria?

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tales-of-asteria-rips.tumblr.com/post/174996368269/martas-5-and-6-images-from-the-swimsuit-gacha

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>locking formerly handed out items behind maximum padding grind
>ignore objective to collect single pieces of currency Alice Madness style
I just want cat ears and glasses, who thought this was a good idea?

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i hate that they locked chaos difficulty behind a gimmicky boss only available like literally before the final dungeon

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Same.

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vesperia is one of those "it gets better after 30-50 hours" games where it's actually true

I love this image

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im glad they no longer lock mystic artes behind 50 hours of gameplay

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>A shitty mobile game from a zombified company has better models and animations than mainline console games from Namdai Scamco

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>Rena reminding us that blue-on-white is foolproof
How long is this crossover supposed to run? I am liking these Square-produced Tales characters.

But a zombie that will place being criminally pretty above all else.

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>tfw 175 manlet
>still big enough to be able to pick best girl up
This is fine.

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I'm sure this is just a special one time thing sadly. Then again it can always happen again in the future

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>No one was perfect
*ahem*

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Symphonia had good writing, but I wouldn't ever call it clever. It's a fairly typical story of a boy becoming a man and learning empathy and compassion for others. The most "clever" thing about it is the twist about Kratos, but even then if you have an eye for writing technique, you probably picked up on who he was before the first disc was done because of all the breadcrumbs and foreshadowing.

I love Symphonia and Vesperia, but I couldn't really get into any other games after that. I tried Berseria and it felt really shit to play and like the game was locked on 30 FPS (I don't know if it actually was or if it was just my PC).

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I would be more concerned about the Star Ocean game's longevity than anything else, but I know it is at least a year old now.

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How about some romance?

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Get that red eyed freak out of here. He bullied the lone autist.

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...and?

Symphonia was derivative and bland, but at least all the characters had chemistry with each other and combat was functional. Abyss actually offended me on a personal level. If I'm going to empathize with a protagonist, it shouldn't be purely because every other character is markedly and noticeably worse.

And Naruto is bigger across the world than Kinnikuman, that doesn't make it superior. Or good.

Lowest common denominator shit makes up most of the mainstream anime market worldwide. See: Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, MHA

HATE ANISE

Rude

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HATE RITA

That wasn't even really Luke's fault though. Aside from the fact that he was obviously being manipulated and had no control over what he was doing at the time, all of that shit could have easily been prevented if ANY ONE of his party hadn't withheld critical information on purpose, and they never gave him any reason to trust them over Van, so it plays out more like they're all collectively shifting the blame for their own mistakes onto him. Whereas the villagers of Iselia actually had good reason to be mad at Lloyd, who was directly responsible AND in control of the choices he made.

Yeah, the whole "sacrifice is always meaningless" moral was pushed way too hard. In the end it was really just narrative convenience that allowed him to go on thinking that way.

Will the new tales game have a unit with cowtits?
I feel like Berseria really fucked us over with the biggest being slightly above avarage and the other two being basically a board and literally a board

Wtf arent they the same?

Are you me?

>hot coffee is "hot coffee" in japanese
God I hate that language.

>*blocks your path*

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For a country that hates Americans as much as they claim to, they sure do use a lot of our words for things.

You mean tri-Ace-produced aka former Wolf Team-produced characters.

Fuck this knife eared little shit.

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>465439796
> our words
no (you) for you mutt

DEMON FANG

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DOUBLE DEMON FANG

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>{{Current Year}}+3
>Limey thinking his shitty island is still relevant
Good luck keeping your economy going without the EU markets, Nigel

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>no tales trailer yet

>File name
You. I like you.

And there is always a friction to the "dumb, clear-eyed non-sufferer" trope between their being right on the money and having no idea what their counterpart has lived through and just being a Pollyanna. Lloyd acknowledges that he can be the latter but keeps on doing it.

Life is strange. Cultural infusions make it stranger.

Ah right.

I wouldn't expect Microsoft to announce two Tales games in a row. Not much longer now.

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>465441664
You’re speaking the Queen’s language (albeit a bastardised, negrified form) so yes :^)