>He thinks Stadia will flop 4k @ 10$/mo 1080p @ 0$/mo 8k 120fps planned >Latency/Input Lag Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. >Always online Aye bitch, keep pretending that it’s a major issue while you ignore that you do the same with Steam and the fact that it’s 2019 and your PC already turns into a brick without a connection.
In a few years PC fags will be seething over their expensive pink RGBLGBTQ+ primitive overpriced junk PC builds while Johnny pee-pee-pants is playing Crysis at 4k on his hundred-dollar Xiaomi phone next to them.
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Yeah because nobody in the history of product testing has ever lied through their teeth to a company because they were just a glorified yes man.
muh graphics hasnt meant anything for both this and last gen, nobody cares.
Benjamin Howard
Honestly concept sounds great but paying extra 60 bucks? No thanks
Matthew Campbell
That's what people play these days
Alexander Lopez
People also stream movies/tv shows/anime They are fucking idiots but you just know the majority will be ok with stadia
Josiah Scott
Failed because it was a small startup that didn't have servers everywhere. Also internet speeds were slower 10 years ago. Google has servers everywhere and internet speeds are a lot better.
Grayson Foster
Still not good enough now for Stadia.
Ayden Thompson
>your PC already turns into a brick without a connection. That's completely false though.
Elijah Sanders
>Unironically comparing onLive to Google and Stadia
Gavin Long
Why not? Both will be known as fucking failures.
Cameron Taylor
Shilling? Whiteknighting? Nope, just OP being a giant fag as ususal.
Parker Foster
>you have to buy the games on top of the subscription >even the smallest amount of latency inherently makes it a worse experience >stream compression it's fucking useless to anyone but the most normalfag of normalfags
Nicholas Russell
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. I was in the beta, it was noticeable. They were smart choosing Assassin's Creed, as it controls like shit anyway; so your average faggot couldn't tell.
James Butler
what's with all this ironic shilling going on, first epic fail and now this. are you really that desperate for (you)s?
95% of people aren't going to pay for the subscription. Free 1080p beats 4k any day.
David Peterson
jajajaja, thing is 144hz monitors are becoming more popular among normies so now even they are aware of latency
Leo Torres
>ironic shilling OP doesn't do it for free
Cameron Scott
95% of people who play video games have never heard of 144Hz. 144Hz monitors are a niche within a niche.
Leo Morales
>jajaja
Kill yourself spic
Parker Roberts
>free $60, you mean. You still have to buy the games. So you're paying the same price for an inherently worse experience. Whatever though, if that sounds good to you then enjoy it I guess, but this shit is immediately off my radar
I feel like the only people aware of stadia are the same people that would be put off by the input delay. I don't see this doing well
Jace Butler
Holy shit! Look, a talking monkey!
Thomas Torres
>free nigga its gonna be full price games, this isn't like netflix where the shit actually comes with the service, and you can bet those fucking jews at google are never gonna do major sales, maybe a "flash sale" once in a while on shitty shovelware games for 20% off, at best.
Dominic Barnes
Google Chrome has 70% market share and Youtube's market share is even higher. 10 years from now there is going to be a lawsuit about how Google abused their market position to push Stadia on every 14 year old watching Minecraft or Fortnite videos.
Fucking true lol. They might try it once for the wow factor and then switch to 1080p.
Zachary Anderson
I’d rather have an IPS monitor than be a moron with a 700$ graphics card and a shitty washed out display.
Jack Morales
There's nothing wrong with streaming passive content like movies
Josiah Robinson
>Owning physical games was too convenient, but I took care of that by going digital >But I still feel like there aren't enough ways my gaming session can go to shit for no good reason >I know! I'll add even more contingency to the equation!
They specifically picked fucking casual console players who only play fucking 3rd person rpgs on lcd tvs. Of course they won't notice lag, cuz they're the worst of console peasants. This product isn't marketed towards us.
Landon Hill
Last test they did fucking Witcher 3, an extremely easy game to run had severe controller lag even paid "journalists" noticed.
Caleb Phillips
Are you serious? If Stadia works out, you never have to buy a console or an expensive PC ever again. You already pay 60 for games and Stadia has a free version. All of this is IF it works out tho lol.
Jace Evans
I unironically preordered the founders edition. Its gonna be fun playing AAA games on the shitter
Matthew Perry
This shit will get shut down before it even gets a public launch next year.
Joshua Walker
>tfw can't go back to 1080p >tfw can't go back to 60fps
>Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. I think laws of physics want to have a word with you about this one.
Owen Ross
You are severely underestimating the lag and how much of an issue it is All other streaming serviced failed for a reason
Jayden Martinez
>you never have to buy an expensive PC ever again The Stadia has self-improving hardware? Is it a fucking replicator?
Parker Perez
Yea beta testers are fucking faggots They probably never used 240hz
Parker Powell
>you already pay 60 for games Stop projecting
Isaiah Ramirez
>connected laptop to desktop for some file transferring >choose to do some remote desktop for giggles and test out some games >everything runs at like 10 fps >sometimes the game freezes >input lag is about 2 seconds
Tell me again how the Stadia is going to work better than two computers directly connected?
Luis Jenkins
I'd rather have a pc for no latency, options, emulation, and mods. My PC also serves purposes other than gaming. I have 250+mbps down internet speed but I still highly doubt any game streaming will be able to offer an experience I find acceptable.
there is no hardware beyond a controller. All of the hardware is server side. You just need a compatible TV and a controller.
Eli Brown
waste of bandwidth thus resources
Joseph Foster
And decent enough internet connection.
Henry Kelly
Has anyone tried PS Now, Xbox Game Pass or Nvidia’s streaming service? How does the latency compare to Stadia? I mean if these companies can do it then why not Google with its massive infrastructure and servers everywhere?
Adrian Smith
>if stadia works out we will enter stagnation of graphical fidelity we haven't ever seen Oh that sounds lovely.
Ryder Ortiz
>pay money each month >still have to pay for games
will flop
Anthony Hernandez
>$125 >$10/month >4k then 8k Something seems fishy about these prices points.
Jacob Garcia
Yes, and that. Google's assumption is that everyone has these things already, and will sell you the one thing you might not already have (controller). I still highly doubt the latency will be acceptable, especially when it's live to the public and millions of people are streaming games from the same servers. Imagine release day for a game when everyone is trying to play at once. Yikes
Brayden James
So it's a glorified TV with a wifi card? People still buy new TVs all the time. wifi cards also evolve. You couldn't handle a modern connection on a laptot from ten years ago.
Tyler Jackson
jajajaja stay mad google friends, nobody wants your 800ms shit
Ryder Wright
>"Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years" Google will find a way to break the laws of physics?
why not? I have a 2011 laptop and it handles my gigabit connection just fine
Brayden Garcia
No, they're literally not selling hardware beyond a controller. It'll just be an app on smart tvs. Since google assumes most people have high speed internet and smart TVs already, they want to just sell games to people who don't want to buy a console or pc. It's designed with the intent of selling to normalfags who happen to see a game commercial and think "that looks neat." Then the commercial ends with "buy it now on your TV with Google Stadia". It'll probably work in that regard but I don't think it's aimed at people who consider games their primary hobby.
This will happen sooner than I thought lol. On a phone even.
Alexander Edwards
>Hacked Is editing .ini files considered hacking now?
Angel Lewis
I think it will work on tablets but anyone even remotely interested in this either a) already has a console or b) lives in USA/Western Europe and they mostly have shit internet, which also happens to be the main region where they might trick idiots into paying for this
Alexander Brown
>Google will find a way to break the laws of physics? who knew that improved internet bandwidth literally broke the laws of physics
Jonathan Peterson
>ad and anti piracy botnet and no personal ownership No thanks chief.
Parker Nguyen
bandwith doesn't reduce latency just increases throughput.
Caleb Torres
How much do they pay to be a shill? was thinking of earning some spending money this summer
Ian Reyes
It's more silicon valley crap. Technically doable, sounds good on paper, works in the test environment bubble. Goes to shit once it faces reality. There's a reason latency remains an issue even after decades of MMOs and multiplayer games.
Andrew Jones
Yeah shill Wake me up when Google finds a way to send signal faster than the speed of light.
they might go the way of PSnow and allow you to download your games on PC if enough people shit on the latency, effectively becoming a subscription service.
I'm still curious if enough people will use it for phones/tablets, though, that's where streaming might make sense, but IDK if enough games are designed to be played for 30 minutes while you're on McD's wifi or if people even want that
John Scott
enhance..enhance!! ENHANCE!!! Kek this literally the pettiest shit I've seen. *giggle*
Caleb Edwards
The stadia launcher will be free but you will still need to pay full price for vidya? No 10 burgers a month and play all you want?
it's why I'm certain it wont replace consoles for most people
Jace Parker
I think they are lying through their teeth but this isn't a good example. Maybe try with a game that doesn't already have high input lag and slow ass windup and winddown animation.
Samuel Baker
why does Yea Forums have such a hatred for anything new.. vr,hardware free gaming, are we really Luddites scared of anything that isn't the status quo? I mean VR is actually fun, and this looks like it may be a real boon to convenience
Isaiah Sanchez
Guess what google shill? Stadia gonna flip so fucking hard and I'm gonna be there watching and laughing as they discontinue their service and all those faggots who invest their money into hardware, subscription and games.
it would have great potential with better support for normal games
Andrew White
>On top of paying for games you now have to pay monthly for computer too >1TB of bandwidth for 60 hours of gameplay so ISPs will probably get mad and charge you more Are people really this cucked?
Blake Martin
enjoy your ban retard
Julian Watson
only 3rd worlders worry about ISP and datacaps
Landon Brown
for fucks sake there are countries with data capped internet still. even modern ones like denmark. then you have USA, germany, spain and italy which have shit speeds too boot rofl. complete opposite, idiot
Jaxson Lewis
If it was Microsoft doing this with their backlog it could actually work. But Google has nothing to show and they are famous for killing a service whenever they feel like it. Leaving you with nothing.
Hudson Cook
>Implying they won’t increase their fee if you suddenly use 10TB per month
>rofl. complete opposite, idiot kek look at this american realizing that his country is actually a third world country I already downloaded 3 TB of data in this month and don't have to worry about anythign
Henry Reed
>VR >actually own the hardware and games >good >cloud based gaming >don't own shit, no mods outside of officially approved ones, shitty lag, can revoke it when they want, can put ads in them and you can't just roll to a previous patch >bad
Is that so hard to understand?
Jose Brown
You can play Steam games offline. There is no input latency offline.
Henry Edwards
pretty mcuh every european country that isn't netherlands/estonia/romania how stupid can you be? america has some of the worst internet in the ''developed'' world
Connor Bell
Canada and certain parts in the US, for a start.
Aiden Smith
Pump psi until you can throw everything (70ish?), get a ton of endurance, and always buy cyberlegs and vitality pumps. Research the cloak and buy dragon, then proceed to telefrag everything and hit what you can't with a Damocles.
Blake Anderson
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. You're wrong. Latency is that one simple thing that makes things suck. Imagine any program you use having to process something for 50ms every time you input something. It's nothing, but it's annoying in comparison with alternative that doesn't have this problem.
Also mind you that 50ms latency is not that pessimistic - it assumes 20ms monitor latency(if you plug it to plasma TV it's gonna be higher) no controller input lag(there's few ms of it) and 30ms of ping.
Samuel Gutierrez
hey you mongs, the only ones using 4k and using 10TB a month will be the ones that can afford it, everyone else will be using Stadia BASE.
even then most countries are unlimited and ISPs are not allowed to increase fees randomly on a contract
keep whining like 3rd worlders because you cant even afford to stream games at 1080p because of your shitty ISPs
Carter Evans
Italy is not even as bad as UK is. UK data plans are all shit, and it gets throttled like mad.
In Italy most people are plebs ok with 50mb internet, so you get throttled very rarely.
t. Lived in both countries
Nathan Jones
then the lag will be even worse to deal with, great to know
Charles Murphy
u mad? >Stadia will launch in the United States, Britain, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden. most of these countries have shit internet :)
dw you wont be able to play either way 3rd worlder, keep to pirating and leeching
Gabriel Baker
>Playing my Stadia >Get to a part of a game which has a lot of visual effects >It fucks up the bitrate and end up looking at a screen of boxy artifacts >Finally get past that area >Stadia's server lags >Game drops to 360p >Can't see shit >Quality finally increases >Internet connection jumps >"You have lost internet connection, the application has closed"
Alexander Parker
I thought Italy had some very very bad internet, 50mb is not that bad though, wont be enough for stadia but good enough to download games off steam like a normal person ;)
Easton Robinson
shit countries will be beta testing our latency?
stick to your role 3rd worlder
Jaxson Young
>doesn't even post speed test in return kek buttblasted shill
Michael Adams
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. Sure, it's unnoticeable on Google servers in Google labs. Also it's not like ANYONE would lie about their product before, right? Google included.
Lincoln Cook
>George, we're losing control of thread, I don't think they're buying it >Just call everyone a 3rd worlder
yeah just consume everything like a good goy. don't even think of criticizing it, just buy and wait for the next product
Jeremiah Morgan
Just wait until this takes off and they do different stadia ''plans'', you can get shitty performance and latency for the normal price of games today(all things considered) or you can upgrade to this unreasonably expensive version which still runs shit but at least it's better than the dogshit version. You will also have to pay extra if you play for too many hours unless you buy the unlimited hours plan. You think that microtransactions and dlc are bad but the shit is about to truly hit the fan.
Matthew Kelly
Google is doing a Google+ again. Stay back because they will kill it in six months. Don't tell me that i didn't warned you because I did.
Liam Diaz
>vr, Gimmick. I've fallen for this and there are like 5 games that are good for VR.
>hardware free gaming Input lag. Games will have to be dumbed down so casuals with additional input lag will be able to play it.
Ian Smith
Pretty sure this is going to be Stadia's fatal flaw. Right now, a steady enough internet connection to support 4K60fps streaming is far from ubiquitous, and most people who actually have such insane internet speeds probably have enough money for high-end PCs anyway. They won't buy the subscription, and they will just stay on PC. By the time internet speeds have caught up to 4K60fps, 8K-ready hardware will already have been on the market for at least a year. Stadia, then, is also forced to upgrade their hardware server-side to 8Kwhatever, which, again, is too much for most internet packages across the world to handle. the 4K60 subscription will almost definitely go free. By this time, consoles will also have caught up entirely to 4K (and potentially 8K), and the next-gen will have been out for a few years already. So, if you understand me, Stadia will always have a very limited userbase, ESPECIALLY for the high-end subscriptions. Actual high-end gamers will almost definitely prefer high-end PCs since they have the money anyway and you don't have to rely on internet that can sometimes fuck up depending on your ISPs. Low-end gamers might try out the free subscriptions and buy a few games just out of curiosity, but again whenever Stadia upgrades their servers, these consumers will have already bought consoles a year prior that has the quality of the free-subscription anyway. Thus, Stadia will always be stuck somewhere between high-end and low-end, with such a small reliable market that it will barely reach break-even if they're lucky.
>Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. it should be decent on release and I don't believe those testers. we'll see what google delivers
Christopher Ward
is VR at least good for racing sims? I already have a wheel so I've been considering a VR, only thing that stopped me is that I would also need a GPU upgrade and I'm not feeling it with the current market
>pls buy lootbox for extra hours playtime OH GOD! This is the worst timeline.
Joshua Carter
post your internet speed then faggot
Camden Gomez
>Right now, a steady enough internet connection to support 4K60fps streaming is far from ubiquitous, and most people who actually have such insane internet speeds probably have enough money for high-end PCs anyway desu my gigabit costs 10$ a month. I doubt people who can afford it in countries where it costs 800$ are interested in gaming, though
Julian Moore
>hurr how does physics work Think about highway. Everything boils down to how fast you can get from point A to point B. It's very unlikely you'll go faster than 400 km per hour. Plus, Google doesn't control car nor highway.
Jaxson Parker
it was more like you got used to it fairly quickly. it was noticeable
Tyler Moore
It's fun at the beginning but I can't play them for too long because my eyes give up.
Jacob Butler
So what are the chances of you having to wait in a queue to play your game because there aren't enough servers available? What are the chances that people paying for a subscription will get ahead in said queue?
Isaac Nelson
I'm hype for Stadia because I can't wait for it to become Ouya 2.0/OnLive 2.0. Stadia won't last a year, and just like most of (((Google))'s services, it will be cancelled. lmao
This is a weird service. In theory it should be a good idea, but 90% of non-garbage PC games can run on literal toasters now. Most AAA games are either shit, or easily available on consoles
Jeremiah Gonzalez
>So what are the chances of you having to wait in a queue to play your game because there aren't enough servers available? none because there wont be enough users ;)
Blake Mitchell
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. >Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. how do you improve the speed of light, shillkun?
Joseph Bailey
pretty much. what convenience is there to stadia when I can already download games on my console?
Landon Reed
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. I tried playing GTA on a console and TV and couldn't hit a fucking tire off a moving car because of the input lag. Add streaming to that and it sure will be fun trying to shoot things.
Gavin Torres
>everyone starts streaming petabytes of content from the same datacentres over the same network infrastructure on a daily basis >this is apparently not an issue
Jacob Gutierrez
Awesome can't wait to play candy crush and angry birds in 4k.
Shills tend to ignore: >common sense >network infrastructure >laws of physics
Do not bother
Kayden Cox
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. I don't give a shit because when I can see the delay in a video with my own eyes, it's beyond unfixable.
Also, 1080p 60fps is 400mb/s of video data. No private individual on this planet has that kind of bandwidth. It has to be compressed to hell and back, which means that it's literally inferior to the PS3 and Xbox 360 simply because the video quality is objectively incapable of reaching their standard.
Evan Adams
Fuck complete loss of ownership.
Owen Edwards
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable It's not like testers can: - be incompetent casuals who can't tell difference between 20 and 40 ms lag - be forced to say such things
Parker Nelson
Google should make a device that you can take everywhere and when you are home you can dock the device and play on your television. That would be great
Ethan Morales
>be incompetent casuals who can't tell difference between 20 and 40 ms lag
so can casuals, the target audience
Bentley Kelly
>playing shitty streamed games on fucking google with ads and lag
Literally worse than just pirating everything.
Daniel Wright
>Google Stadia could slurp 1TB of data in 65 hours streaming at 4K ... >Google Stadia could slurp 1TB of data in 65 hours streaming at 4K ... >Google Stadia could slurp 1TB of data in 65 hours streaming at 4K ... >Google Stadia could slurp 1TB of data in 65 hours streaming at 4K ...
I’m pretty sure you couldn’t tell the difference between 20ms and 40ms either you fucking retard. It’s very minimal and only autistic “hardcore” gaymers give a shit for such a mild difference.
Juan Ortiz
That's basically what this is though. You can play games on your phone or tablet and you could then move whatever instance of the game you're playing onto your TV. You would get fucking destroyed by your phone service provider playing games on the movie though.
Daniel Collins
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable Lol, sure.
Nice try Google shill, fuck off.
Isaac Stewart
How common are data caps in the US? I live in a shitty country and only mobile paid plans have them. Also can you guys run some speed tests and post pics so I can get a sense of the speeds?
Julian Harris
I can't imagine playing a fighting game on this thing. I know it's getting three but that sounds like guaranteed suffering.
Kevin Lopez
1080p looks better than 4K compressed.
Alexander Cox
How does stadia handle settings? I always disable chromatic aberration and motion blur, since it makes me nauseous.
Dylan Davis
unwashed masses will eat it up. Smart people won't.
Jaxson Richardson
It doesn't matter. It's not possible to have 1080p 60fps streamed that is equal to the same done locally. That has to be compressed to shit, and 4k has to be compressed to absolute hideous shit.
Nathaniel King
Funny how you don’t see the irony in your post when the masses are overwhelmingly circle-jerking themselves that this will fail. Keep believing that you’re a special snowflake when you’re another brick in the wall.
You assume that a good internet connection is a rare and expensive thing, but there are many third world shitholes with connection speeds an Amerilard could only dream of. In the city where I'm from Gigabit internet is basically standard now, you can hardly find a telco that offers new contracts with a lower bandwidth. In a situation like that, where you have high speed internet anyway and you can literally play by connecting your phone to your TV, the barrier to entry for Stadia is the cost of a USB to HDMI cable.
Daniel Nguyen
ignigger
Luis Gutierrez
>finally done with steam monopoly >but now it's google being the big dog Meh, I'll just stick to piracy as usual, and if the assholes at google start releasing streaming games only I'll just finally start my backlog.
Fuck valve, fuck google, fuck every single ones of these cunts (except GOG and desura).
Brayden Murphy
>a gaming platform the 3rd world can't access de facto due to poor internet infrastructure So where do I subscribe exactly ?
Jace Sanchez
>your PC already turns into a brick without a connection. Cellphone hotspot, activate offline mode.
Thomas Morales
So now stadia is the new de facto platform for PC gaming, how do you get your steam games refunded or transfered to stadia? Is there a form to fill or something?
Andrew Miller
You can just ask support, they'll transfer the games to stadia. It takes a couple of weeks, but they said the delay would decrease as stadia is officially released.
Jaxon Rogers
>pretends not to be 3rd world >leaves a space between the last word and the punctuation
Who exactly are the 3rd worlders here? Because last time I checked US ISPs still cap data while most European countries don’t and they have way faster speeds. Speed capped at 24mbps is the norm in EU.
Ryan Martin
They decided to not release it in 3rd world nations apart from the USA.
Lincoln Brooks
Yeah, just a couple of months ago I was upgraded from 1GB to 10GB fiber. I pay 40€/month and no 3rd world quota of course.
So did they mention anything about mod support at all? I mostly just play games that have mod support now so I the platform won't really be for me otherwise
Jayden Johnson
There won't be mod support since you're streaming the entire game from central servers.
Adam Russell
>2030 >PC Gaming is seen as even more of a hobbyist's niche than it is today >Kids grow up not even knowing what a Personal Computer is. >They only know Google >They only know Stadia >What are specifications? Don't need that, Stadia has it all.
Is this really the future (((Google))) wants? They will turn people into dumber and dumber bags of flesh until they willfully obey every command some screen tells them to do.
Justin Perez
I guess. I was hoping for a big surprise from google like a Steam Workshop system that would let you to subscribe to mods in your profile and load them into the game once you started playing but that's a bit much I suppose
James Powell
You're not entitled to "mods". Have sex, incel.
Levi Powell
The fact that you're even considering getting cucked into vidya streaming already suggests you're a massive fucking retard. Go back to plebbit.
Xavier Brooks
But Onlive got bought up and is the basic for Playstation on demand games?
Noah Howard
>beta test was assassin creed, a single player game Single player games are basically the only games you can get away with 30fps and console/tv input latency. Literally the worst test to use for an online service.
Once you introduce a separate host, ie destiny 2 having it's own game servers and where you have to connect to google first to do anything, you'll realize how shitty this really is.
Julian Sanchez
I think this will bomb for the simple fact that housing prices are insane, so anyone that isn't rich or retarded lives with other people to split housing costs. Living with other people means shared internet. Anyone who isn't a NEET has several wireless devices, may it be their smartphones (EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THESE IF THEY'RE A FUNCTIONING HUMAN BEING) or a game console Stadia sucking up the bandwidth when someone else in the house wants to watch Netflix or Youtube is not going to fly.
Try not to get so mad at someone for asking a question and your life will improve dramatically nigger
Nolan Reed
IPS? Disgusting, join the VA master race.
Andrew Russell
I'm doing you a favour by warning you to stay the fuck away from Stadia you retarded gullible double nigger. You should be thankful.
Thomas Hernandez
But I already had received the answer that let me know that the Stadia wasn't for me. All you're doing is being mad at anons and that's not healthy user
Jaxon Hill
That's a yikes from me, I thought it was going to be a system like Netflix, pay x amount of monthly shekels for service + latest games.
Gabriel Jones
So if I understand well, Steam is the alt-right gaming platform while Stadia is the progressive gaming platform?
Daniel Williams
If MMOs on launch tends to fuck up hard due to the number of players, how bad will be the first weeks of stadia?
Grayson Bennett
>Two years we have an optimist, I see
Kayden Jackson
Because Yea Forums is composed of teenagers who are going through that phase where they think they can impress their schoolmates by hating everything. Except they don't have any schoolmates, so they attempt this shtick with strangers on the internet instead because it's the only friends they'll ever have.
Hudson Campbell
Awful. At least the controls for MMO's are mostly client-side.
Jordan Bailey
sounding a bit scared
Nolan Watson
I definitely think Stadia will be interesting to watch. I reckon it will definitely be compelling to some people. Personally I probably won't be paying for it, although never say never.
The thing is that Yea Forums is composed of literal children who can't comprehend that there are people in the world besides themselves. They think that if THEY don't have a need for a product, then that must mean that NOBODY has a need for that product. This lack of self-awareness is quite strange, I thought that most children grew out of it by their early teens.
Kayden Bennett
Your low iq shows. Consumers don't post at all. If you are here you're a social reject not representative of the average consumer.
Colton Barnes
Most people playing games these days are perfectly fine with consoles, if Stadia delivers on even half of these bullshit claims on launch without too much hassle then theres no going back.
Logan Ward
> paying to turn on your device > laggy as shit > chained to online
bye
Andrew Richardson
...and people actually think marketers come here to shill their shit
Kevin Gutierrez
Alway online and games as a service bullshit is bad enough as is, why would I want this...
Nathan Bailey
They do, there was proof and some marketing guy disclosed also. The thing is marketing makes mistakes too. Advertisement on the web was overall vastly overvalued for a long time. Nowadays advertisement prices aren't even 1/10 of golden days but they still market themselves as big influencers of course because it's what it takes to get paid.
Mason Richardson
oh boy, it's not like pc gaming was a shit show already with steam and every god damned store front out there where you don't own anything you pay money for (but at least your purchases can be backed up on your hdd), now jewgle wants to take that away too where everything is on their servers 24/7 enjoy having your account terminated due to hate speech or some other bullshit and loosing all the shit you paid for cucks
Elijah Diaz
Imagine spending £5000 on a gaming rig only for the future of gaming to be streaming games at max settings 60fps on any old device with a half decent internet connection. Must be seething hahahaha
Gaming rig will run screenreading AI bot in the game. All those free resources can be utilized.
Jeremiah Myers
We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because google decided to shut down Stadia
Charles White
What's the fucking point of 60fps and more if you have input lag?? Explain it to me.
Jaxon Campbell
Stadia will flop because of data limits in the US.
Jayden Harris
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. Nice try shill, this one is provably false
>We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Valve decided to shut down Steam >We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Microsoft decided to shut down the Microsoft Store >We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Sony decided to shut down the PlayStation Store >We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Nintendo decided to shut down the Nintendo eShop >We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Google decided to shut down Google Play >We'll see who is laughing when you lose all your vidya because Apple decided to shut down the App Store
Leo Johnson
>Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years I didn't realize Google was researching ways of sending messages faster than light. Yes, I suppose once we have subspace internet and I can have 0ms of latency with the machine (like I currently do witb my PC) then yes, it will improve.
Lucas Collins
Plasma TVs are actually the one type of TV other than CRT to have effectivelly 0ms latency. You're thinking og LCD and LED tvs.
Uh compared to just 10 years ago we have gone from 60kbps internet to 50mbps being the norm. 5-10 years from now fast internet will be cheaply available everywhere. It already is in most parts of the world that aren't america.
Sebastian Green
Good job i'm not a third worlder restricted by data caps.
you forgot to mention you also have to pay for each game on top of the subscription. and you forgot to mention it will use 1TB of bandwidth in one day. and you forgot to mention that you will lose access to your games if google thinks youre a meanie racist poopiehead.
no one is buyign this shit lmao
Ian Reyes
>using ass creed as an example Kek Ass Creed games lag even when playing them offline.
Ian King
I've never seen a worse concept for a gaming console. If this takes off then gaming is really ruined forever.
Henry Cox
If Stadia flops or your favorite game gets delisted for bullshit legal reasons then what do you think is going to happen?
Alexander Harris
keep sucking on google's pozzed dick you faggot
Juan Diaz
Well, when Nintendo discontinued the Virtual Boy a few days after release, you could still sell it for a few bucks.
Or a thousand bucks if you waited a few years.
Kayden Price
>comcast 1TB/month limit >otherwise extra $50/month unlimited >p lol any random nog with a ps4 or computer will keep using that
Samuel Kelly
It's either going to crash and burn or take over the entire industry. I don't see anything in between
Gavin Murphy
>(((Google))) in charge of your game collection no way
Kevin Torres
>muh ownership Yeah that stopped people from joining netflix right
Mason Martin
>only need 35mbps connection for 4k Get ready for some fucking messy 4k
Jace Hall
Man, thank God I get sub 1mbps, really good fucking product you stupid niggers. Guess i'll use 144p.
Isaiah Peterson
I think the main reason it'll fail is games. There's barely a reason to use Stadia over PS4, XBone or PC.
>Japanese devs won't be arsed to develop games for it >Western devs either want money to make exclusives or just make multiplats >Many already have a console and some attachment to it Google would need to dish out millions to catch up with the others when it comes to exclusives. If they don't, there's no reason to get Stadia. All that is ignoring the technical difficulties that come with it. What if two members in a family want to use it at once? What if your neighbor uses it too? And so on
Zachary Clark
I contacted steam support to ask how much time it will take to transfer my licenses to stadia, and they said it's not possible. What in the fuck, I thought gabe had a special button to release all your games once steam goes down, which is basically just a few months away now stadia is about to release.
Henry Flores
What do you mean compressing to 3% of the data size will degrade quality?
>third world >poor infrastructure but I have gigabit and I haven't had downtime since 2007 : /
Gavin Ross
You don't have to buy games on Stadia
Joseph Lee
>not investing in an actual gaming pc which you can get for as low as $300 and be able to use it for actual work as well. Seriously a PC lets you play all the games you want, plus mods and emulators. Why would you waste your time and bandwith on something ephemeral as the Stadia instead of taking ownership of your gaming experience?
Juan Perez
Yeah, I think this is where all this is going. Incels and other creeps (neo nazis, gamergaters and alike) won't want to migrate to stadia and will stick to steam where they can buy all the racist ans sexist crap, and normal people will just use stadia.
Isaiah Robinson
quit shilling this trash fag
Juan Harris
So you are just going to play Destiny 2 for the first few months?
Carter Martinez
What does that make Epic?
Hunter Hall
Shitposters really love Stadia. Obvious bait thrown all over this thread
Jordan Rodriguez
Epic is Bernie.
Ryan Reyes
>thread has been up for a couple of hours and only has 250 posts lmao lagdia
Lucas Mitchell
The only reason Alphabet, or it's relatives such as 23andMe, provide any service at all is to acquire data. So if Alphabet is bringing out a game console that is always online, it immediately makes me think that they're only doing this to acquire such things as playing patterns, human problem solving, social interactions, social dynamics etc etc.
The whole thing is a ploy, I think, to enhance their AI development. provide millions of hours of captured game footage which can be analysed for the points I made above so that AI can learn from those human interactions for whatever nefarious purpose Alphabet is thinking u.
Jason White
Have kids
Colton Morris
Why do people shill for this inferior trash? Make sure you upgrade your phone bros! Don't wanna miss out on the Diablo Immortal launch!
Eli Parker
send that money to my paypal account, i'll use it better
Liam Rivera
>Why do people shill for this inferior trash? They are just baiting for replies. Half the threads on Yea Forums are this same shit with different topics
Jose Flores
Ignoring bumps costs only 99$ today if you're interested.
Josiah Clark
There are other games.
Others will be added slowly over time until it's all on the service
Jason Diaz
It's all shit. Game pass and ps now are only good since they allow users to download games.
Christian Morris
is there any hope of sony allowing psnow downloads on PC?
Christian Allen
b-but why would you put so much effort into being a contrarian on Yea Forums for soulless stuff.
Hudson White
No sony hates pc
Christian Walker
>he thinks the Stadia won't flop
Who is the target market of the Stadia? Casuals, when they have mobile games? Hardcore players when most have consoles? Girls? How about poorfags that, at most, have a shitty PC or phone? Richfags who can easily buy a current console with better games without worrying about a constant internet connection?
See? If you can't answer that simple question, how do you expect the Stadia to be successful? The only think sound with this platform is the pricing.
144Hz IPS monitors exist, you know. I'm using one right now.
Aaron Hernandez
>I'm more intelligent and insightful thant google marketing research panel Ah ah, yeah, right.
Carson Johnson
You dumb fucks do realize that the reason you're not playing the latest AAA on your iPhone right now is not "muh grafix", right? It's because even a fucking controller doesn't map completely to a touch screen without blocking half your view, not to mention a PC keyboard.
Carson Cooper
what's a good 144hz/1440p IPS?
also are VA displays worth it nowadays?
Easton Howard
Even normal fags notice when they’re lagging
Joseph Thompson
who is the sexy lady next to ps4
James Morris
>Aye bitch, keep pretending that it’s a major issue while you ignore that you do the same with Steam and the fact that it’s 2019 and your PC already turns into a brick without a connection.
This is the single dumbest, out of touch, talking out your ass sentence I've read on Yea Forums in weeks, and that's saying something.
Joshua Foster
>implying google has any competent people left after all the diversity hires
Gabriel Stewart
>google marketing research panel >countless flops over the last decade
Luke Campbell
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. So some guy said that it does happen, but it will be better in the future? The fuck is this argument? Fuck off shill.
And Google wonders they they’re being hit with anti-monopoly legalization
Levi Torres
and Google is known for shutting down their projects remember Picasa? remember Google+? remember Project Ara? and now they keep fucking up Youtube like your mom on brothel house for 24/7
Xavier Cox
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable.
Dude, go back and watch the announcement stream. It was glaringly fucking noticeable even then.
>Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years.
"T-t-they'll fix it later!" Holy shit you weren't a PS3 fanboy back in the day were you?
>Keep being in denial.
The irony.
Oliver Morales
No free games. It's only paying for the hardware.
Luis Davis
Stadia only needs a good connection which even poorfags can afford.
This removes 3 hurdles - hardware (poorfag hurdle #1) -delay for download&install (consumer adhd is real issue) -IT knowledge to manage your shit, you can't imagine how bad things are, we got freshman in CS requiring help to install visual studio and these failures want to learn CS, the average normie will be even worse
It's tailored to a generation of poor tech-illiterate.
Lucas Smith
The one I'm using (Acer XF270HUA) is bretty gud but it's discontinued. I don't know of any others.
Hudson Watson
>and most people who actually have such insane internet speeds probably have enough money for high-end PCs anyway You underestimate richfags. They buy everything and anything just for the sake of doing it, even more if it's fucking expensive.
Not in the United States they weren't. Internet speeds are virtually identical to 2009 here.
Eli Powell
If a game streaming service ever picks up there will never be a need for an emulator ever again moron.
Aaron Wood
If Poorfags are the target market, then why are first world countries served first? Wouldn't it make more sense to start with the likes of Brazil Mexico, China, the entirety of Latin America and such? Why server this to "tech illiterate" people if those just grab their phones, open a single app and are given mind numbing games for FREE?
Evan Cruz
>user was banned for wrongthink
Brody Rogers
>paying $60 for games you never actually own and aren't even installed on your local machine >there are actual consumers applauding this as a good thing
Clown world is real holy fuck.
Brayden Mitchell
The only one of these I remember is Google+, and that's because Moot fucked it up.
Nicholas Russell
>1080p @ 0$/mo 20Mbps JUST for 1080p 60FPS gaming, how about no thanks and fuck off cunt?
Lincoln Price
How did who? fucked it up?
Asher Flores
First world poorfags still got much more money to take and you need good internet as said. That makes them a much better audience. Lastly you can't compare triple AAA games to mobile free shit. Sure they compete against each other for consumer time but the audience that plays something like EA football 2019 won't go play candy crush as replacement.
Eli Diaz
I actually work at Google and both our market researchers and product teams have done so much stupid shit over the years that taking a random user's word here over them wouldn't be a stretch.
He's right - Stadia has no target audience. Since it has no exclusives, it will only appeal to people who don't already have some sort of gaming device, but are a)interested in playing the latest AAA garbage, b)have a FAST and uncapped internet connection (meaning it's a non-starter in the US) and c)already have a huge TV to plug the Chromecast into.
You know a lot of people like that?
Gabriel Jones
ITT: People who don't know the difference between latency and bandwidth.
I doubt you stadia fags know what packet loss is.
Oliver Young
>have to pay a monthly fee for Stadia subscription >then some games will requiere you to buy them to be able to play them >the games are not actually yours, you're buyin a liscene to play them and they are gone the moment Google packs their things and shuts down everything >all the negative technical difficulties uncovered by actual players during demo
This shit will be forces down our throats in the future like Google Plus, isn't it?
California company thinks video game streaming rental is the goldmine and they gotta capitalize on it.
Colton Moore
>poorfags What kind of poorfag has 100Mbit internet connection and a 4k TV?
Logan Perez
Doesn't matter. I prefer if stadya dies because of the negative impact it will cause on the market but that wasn't an issue even years ago with onlive.
Charles King
Boomers
Matthew Young
Why would they need that? They will play on their old busted monitor at low resolution which is why the connection will also hold up even at 25mb.
Austin Foster
>95% of people who play video games have never heard of 144Hz.
Were they living under a rock for the last fifteen years? 144Hz has been a huge selling point for HDTVs aimed at normalfags since the mid-2000s.
Never having heard of 144Hz is like having never heard of 4k.
Nolan Campbell
How often do you buy a TV? Most people don't give a crap. Go make a questionnaire and you will find most still don't even know what HD means.
Isaac Morris
I moved to GOG years ago. So there's no "always connected" for me.
Camden King
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. Beta testers wouldnt be allowed to say otherwise and keep their privileges Get used to it like people got used to MTX? Cool
Brody Clark
exactly, stadia is too much for them, they just want their playstation and their plug and play :)
Aaron Johnson
>you still need to pay for your games >and $10 a month on top of that to play said games >and if you're in the US, you can only play it for a limited amount of time each month What a scam.
If you have niggers dumb enough to buy Appleshit, you just know they will buy into this too.
Elijah Anderson
Data cap, burger?
Jeremiah Gray
Nice. Enjoy playing The Witcher 3, The Witcher 3 and The Witcher 3 cuz every other game on there is crap. It's literally not worth making an account and giving another useless website your info for farming.
Kayden Green
>and if you're in the US, you can only play it for a limited amount of time each month lol there are western european countries with bandwidth caps too. australia as well.
the only places on the planet with high enough population numbers and reliable enough internet connections to support this are either in a) eastern europe and they wont pay for this shit or b) east asia and they don't like movie games
Nolan Anderson
Hello poorfag. I use "Appleshit" as you call it because it goes well with my Mercedes S-Class and my very expensive suit.
Ryder Allen
>In 2016, U.S. provider Comcast offered a service plan with a data cap of 1 terabyte Burgerstan lol NEXT LEVEL
Gabriel Foster
witcher 3 isn't what I'd call good. maybe if you put waifus and graphics above good gameplay?
Evan Garcia
What about graphic industry workers? Are they niggers too because they use Apple?
Kayden Hill
Yes, I know you're stupid, you don't have to keep proving it.
Asher White
What game would you call good?
Ryan Morris
So admit it's a worthless status symbol like diamonds and move on instead of trying to defend garbage for something it's not.
Mason Peterson
Yes, obviously.
Caleb Ramirez
ones that dont have empty open worlds and quest design that amounts to following red trails :)
Connor Miller
>8k 120fps >most american broadband connections have a 1TB/mo data cap
oh yeah this is gonna go swell.
Kevin Carter
Forgot to say I'm also not a manchild to build myself a GAYming PC so it can sit there with nauseating faggot RGB seizure inducing pink lights and shitty tasteless gaming chairs.
Noah Myers
>Still need a Chromecast ultra to play in tv >You can't play on your smartphone, unless is Pixel
Brody Hall
99% of artists are bottom tier of /biz/, hell in many cases being a welfare recipient would provide a better live.
Levi Baker
You are failing to say the name of a game that's actually better than The Witcher 3
Caleb Garcia
>heroin addict claims "at least it's not meth" brilliant
s-classes depreciate so much you can have a fairly fresh one for less than 20k. so who are you trying to impress?
Thomas Turner
>doesn't have a Netflix model
Dead on arrival. Normal people could stomach a subscription fee, limitations brought by data caps and horrible latency, but having to purchase games individually will not only go against Google's idea of having a purely accessible service (taking the extra step of having to buy games) but also dissuade people who are used to Netflix models and expected Stadia to be Netflix but with vidya.
Christopher Jenkins
your gonna need fiber optic internet to get 4k haha
Alexander Sullivan
names are not important. there are many games without empty worlds and quest design that amounts to following red trails :)
ps. combat is quite shit too :)
Zachary Cooper
>playing AAA games on the shitter Because you have a Pixel, right?
Camden Rogers
>hur dur stadia is only relevant do americunts eurofags dont have this data cap bullshittery so get fucked cuck.
Ethan Johnson
>Free >Can pay for games when you want: Yes What did the shill mean by this?
Levi Richardson
In Major cities we have some of the highest 1tb coverage in Europe, everywhere else it goes from 2 to 200 mb depending on how rural your area is.
Liam Ward
Those countries are so low in they can’t understand the concept of a ‘video game’
Christopher Sullivan
It wont flop cause normalfags don't care about some input delay
Liam Russell
But it will because normalfags do care about having to buy games on top of a subscription fee.
Adam Reed
like people can get used to having limbs missing
Dylan Hill
It exists too. What your "unlimited" actually means is after too much usage they start throttling. t.germanistan
That aside consider the practical application. Throughput is limited. If everyone starts streaming the network won't handle it well. It's already the case that congestion fucks occasionally with your traffic at primetime hours. The entire bussiness model relies on people not using their internet 24/7 at full power. The more people do the more it breaks. It's gonna get either more expensive or fail more.
Asher Sullivan
Nobody cares about yurope.
Parker Carter
ISP just hit me with the datacap overage email. Obviously Stadia is a no-go, even if I wanted it.
Bentley Morgan
for normies and journalists
Jack Cox
Not using 4k 60hz va panel.
Top pleb bro
Adam Green
>more botnet >good
Jayden Barnes
Too bad most ISP's are corrupt pieces of shit that only offer slow speeds for high prices and data caps for every tier. If only there was a gigantic corporation that could offer competition for actual good deals and not give up when the situation gets tough. If only... maybe then Stadia would be viable? But since that DIDN'T happen, Stadia is literally worthless for most people here in the US.
Anyone here tried PS Now? They have a deal like $60 or $70 a year and I wouldn’t mind pulling the trigger but I would like to hear some Yea Forums opinions on the service.
Henry Fisher
>corporation Internet access is a public service, therefore the government should be the service provider.
Zachary Martinez
Why do you need the fucking Chromecast for this to work? Are they that fucking stupid that they do not understand that this hurts the consistency of the service? Why can't you just fucking open a chrome browser on your smart TV and play that way? Fucking idiots.
Samuel Adams
That's it.
Christian Myers
they're probably overestimating themselves and are trying to sell some hardware alongside this
Gavin Green
Say the name of a game better than The Witcher 3 or you're a nigger
Samuel Perry
Red Dead Redemption
Kevin Ortiz
witcher 1 :)
Jaxson Long
>mostly unnoticable That means that there were instances where it was noticable, and in those instances it was unplayable. Cool confirmation.
Gavin Lee
*video stops to buffer* ah yes quite cinematic
Luke Parker
Pretty sure people who already play on PCs or consoles won't suddenly ditch their setups because you can stream gaming into an office PC.
Hudson Adams
I remember some user in Chicago got 3Mbps for like $45/month or something
JUST
Jose Price
69 dollars for a controller without gyro
Samuel Johnson
why on earth would I play shitty streaming games when I have a good PC or console.
I tried PS Now, it's shit. NORTH AMERICAN INTERNET IS GARBAGE. Streaming will never, ever, ever, be as good as a game on your hd/ssd.
Kayden Brown
Go away stinking NES boomer, graphics absolutely have improved and continue to do so. Put your glasses on.
Owen Rogers
YES GOY. NEVER OWN ANYTHING AGAIN.
PAY FOR $60 GAMES THAT YOU CANT ACCESS UNLESS YOU PAY $10 A MONTH YOU WORM
Cooper Perry
>forced to pay a monthly fee to play over 1080p >forced to also pay full price for the game ontop of that LMAO
Bentley Harris
My gripe with it is that chromecast doesn't allow for a wired connection. I seriously doubt they have 4K down perfectly with a wireless connection.
Ayden Sullivan
And before you ask, yes goy, you can totally trust google. They'd never ban you for stupid reasons or anything like that.
Jaxson Scott
>PAY FOR $60 GAMES THAT YOU CANT ACCESS UNLESS YOU PAY $10 A MONTH YOU WORM The subscription is only for 4K user. You can still play the games you bought in 1080p.
Elijah Cook
I don't get why people just don't embrace stadia, to be frank.
>will settle the year of linux desktop >google's infrastructures >google's connection so dev can't grant exclusivity of their content >FINALLY a 100% piracy proof for digital distribution
I just don't get the hate, it seems like a new dawn for gaming.
Eli Thompson
That’s just the thing, you see. In using Steam or an equivalent like GOG, all the files are on your system and fully playable once you use a crack to remove the DRM...the same cannot be said of the StAIDsia
Tyler Rivera
Fuck off shill.
Adam Sanders
>>FINALLY a 100% piracy proof for digital distribution >implying this is a good thing I agree with you on the rest though.
It's like it's your choice anyway. You drank the steam DRM cool aid, you'll drink the stadia one. It's not like you'll have the choice anyway, as devs will flock to stadia because it assures their content can't be pirated. Think of it like a steam on steroids, and you'll just know you wan't it. Remember when everybody here were shitting on steam, some still are, and look how successful steam is now. It will be the same for stadia, because in the end you're just kids who want toys, it's all that matters in the end. Like you'll stop playing vidya once stadia has become standard....
Colton Martinez
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable. Even if it has issues it will improve in a few years. Keep being in denial. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>and the fact that it’s 2019 and your PC already turns into a brick without a connection. Without a connection I have literally hundreds upon hundreds of games I can play, and hundreds of hours of stuff to watch. Dunno what planet you're living on but it sure ain't the same one as us.
>shilling this hard >GOOGLE Nobody wants google controlling any more of your life and options than they already do you cunt. >oh sorry devs we're not going to support your game, you have values that don't bow to us and you want to create content we don't approve of And nobody cares about piracy, fuckoff.
John Wood
So what will you do once a game you've been expecting is exclusive to stadia and you won't be able to pirate it? Yeah, you'll subscribe to stadia and just stfu like good bitches. Like you did with steam. You'll enjoy it whether you like it or not, because you won't have an alternative.
I'm not even a shill, just an anti drm/digital platform person mocking Yea Forums. I want stadia to succeed only so I can drink the steam users' tears. Those steam users' calling me names when I told I don't want DRM, telling valve saved PC gaming and all that bullshit you've been spouting for years. Because for me stadia doesn't change shit and I'm used to not play games because they are infested with the steam malware. I like stadia because it will BTFO all the steam fanboys. And it's beautiful.
Juan Martin
>because you won't have an alternative. I just wont play anymore. Also, what are competitors?
Dylan James
You know, there's a reason why Comcast regularly gets voted the worst company in America. Also the fact that the cable companies carved out the US so they don't have to compete makes it you don't even have a choice outside of moving to an area served by someone else.
Nolan Lee
>I like stadia because it will BTFO all the steam fanboys. >Letting google ruin gaming to own the steamers.
Chase Gutierrez
Comcast subscribers.
James Thompson
Valve ruined gaming, google will just rape the corpse at this point.
Eli Richardson
>google's infrastructures ...won't do shit for most places with hard or soft data caps. >google's connection so dev can't grant exclusivity of their content But Google already has exclusives lined up for Stadia, and I would not put it past them to pull some EGS moves. But more importantly, without any good exclusives, there's no incentive to use Stadia whatsoever. >FINALLY a 100% piracy proof for digital distribution So you're willing to sacrifice any last semblance of people owning games just because some people pirate games, even though some of those people later on buy games they like? And for the matter, what is good about giving up the ability to download your own game and relinquishing control to Google's servers? We've already lost the ability to own a game, why give up the license? Plus, you still have to pay for a game as if you're going to buy it, so what even is the point when you could just sink the cost into a console and buy the game anyway, or just get a good PC, and then you don't have to pay $10 a month for the privilege of playing that game on a connection that will run you to the wall with your ISP. Stadia sucks.
Landon Hill
so this is how shitposters will defend Stadia? "i-it's not the service, it's the game!!!"
Josiah King
How, because they came up with the idea of a digital storefront and people latched onto it? If it wasn't Valve, it would be someone else.
William Cooper
>Streaming games
>when ISPs literally throttle your bandwidth based on global usage
why
would you ever do this? even the entry cost is 129, just buy a fucking PC or console.
Andrew Evans
Paying full price for games you might not have access to in a few years.
At least steam will be around in the foreseeable future.
John Ross
Reminds me of the "steam ISN'T a drm" bullshit that used to get thrown around by shameless retards.
>steam is the first digital storefront and people latched onto it? No it wasn't. But like steam, stadia will be a new milestone, and people will latch onto it so how you feel about stadia isn't really relevant.
Oliver Harris
>Aye bitch, keep pretending that it’s a major issue while you ignore that you do the same with Steam You don't need to be online to play your steam library. The majority of my games play offline just fine.
Julian Cruz
>Beta-testers said it was mostly unnoticeable As if I trust some malnourished freak's opinion. These are the same people who get motion sick and vomit when playing something like F-Zero or Warframe. They probably prefer to have .5 seconds of lag to help ease them into their dopamine addled state
Tyler Gray
>stadia will be a new milestone Not really, if you're going to ruin your datacap each month to play a 1080p game, and you have to pay for each game along with a $10 monthly tax just to play that game, it's going to fucking fail. If you didn't have to pay for each game, it would have a chance. It's going to sink.
Gavin Lewis
>datacap Obviously stadia is targeted to the first world countries.
>Trusting jewgle Enjoy paying for games only to have google violate their own tos and terminate the service when its not profitable enough
Joshua Murphy
>game already has input lag so more is fine Okay, I shit on your dogs shit. Now there is a mountain of shit. Will you pick it up or are you afraid of your own lies
You mean the ones where a 35mb/s data plan costs an arm and a leg? >Have no datacap >Have cheap internet >Live in a Google region Choose two and only two.
Carter Howard
Nothing will be wrong.
Ryan Green
>being this asinine They're targeting US and Western Europe. It's going to fail in the US because of ISPs, it will fail in Australia with its god-awful Internet, and it's going to fail in Western Europe where the ISPs will throttle you after going past a certain limit. Not to mention as other Anons have said in the thread, you need to pay out the ass for fast service in these regions, and you'll also have to factor in the amount of traffic that's going to make the streaming a fucking trainwreck. YouTube already has problems with streaming as it is.
Chase Brooks
Not saying streaming will not be the future, but thinking that a Google product that isn't its search engine or Android will succeed is being naive as fuck.
I give it 5 years until it suffers the same fate other Google services/products suffered: DEAD AS FUCK.
Alexander Cox
not him, but it being a status symbol is the literal opposite of being worthless
for a lot of jobs (and people) out there, status symbol is everything but you'll have to understand that the hard way when mommy will kick you out of her basement
Andrew Richardson
Valve has a secret command, Gabe has access to the first half, and his 2nd has the other half. If steam was ever to shutdown, they'd just activate a killswitch making all the games you bought on steam be DRM free and you'll have like a year or so to download your library?
Jace Myers
It wont because steam prints cash for Valve. Google has hundreds of abandoned projects they thought were going to revolutionize this or that
Jeremiah Jenkins
Someone will buy out Valve/Steam, Steam is too big for any company that would be willing to buy it let it go to the wayside.
Alexander James
sub 20ms is almost impossible to notice when gaming on a TV. If you have a not shit connection, you will have a 5ms round trip time to your closest Google data center. For 60 fps, that gives them 15ms to render your frame. That is not only possible in the future, it was possible 5 years ago. No laws of physics need to be broken for Stadia to work. All it comes down to is execution and consumer interest.
Tyler Ross
>supporting something that will lead to the death of physical hardware and personal digital ownership
lel
Oliver Flores
The absolute state of Yea Forums
Kayden Russell
No one has internet connection that could keep up with 4K game streaming except maybe bill gates
Dominic Cook
Guess america's a third world now, comcast's common data cap is a tb
Jacob Jones
If you had actually played that game, you'd have known that the character has "weighted" movement, which causes their movement to "drop off" after you stop the input. The input lag in that webm is at most around ~100ms, which is not good, but it's also on a crowded conference network, so it's not a death sentence outright.
Hunter Lopez
Google will need hardware to make the games run. Hardware makers will be ok.
>and personal digital ownership You never owned your steam games, it's a one-time fee subscription. Check their ToS.
Nolan Gutierrez
"Crowded conference line"
user they were playing with the server ELEVEN FEET AWAY FROM THEM
Now imagine from your home.
Isaiah Wilson
How much are games even going to cost on Stadia
Dylan Ross
I imagine their ping to the data center was much higher than the 5 ms I get from my home.
Take a moment to consider how stupid what you just said was.
Parker Clark
>Buy PC
>get internet connection
>torrent infinite free games that are lag free
your move, Stadia.
Parker Thompson
HURR DURR ERMAGHERD I WONT BE ABLE TA OWN MY VIFDYAGAYMES ANYMOR HURR DURR ERMAGHERD I WONT BE ABLE TA OWN MY MOVIEZ ANYMOR HURR DURR ERMAGHERD I WONT BE ABLE TA OWN MY MUZIKS ANYMOR OH THE HUMANITY
Google cant fucking stream a video on youtube at 1080 without having problems and you believe they are going to deliver that for free? How retarded can you be. >PC already turns into a brick without a connection. It doesnt unless you are one of those retards that use live services/malware instead of having software. >In a few years PC fags will be seething over their expensive pink RGBLGBTQ+ primitive overpriced junk PC builds while Johnny pee-pee-pants is playing Crysis at 4k on his hundred-dollar Xiaomi phone next to them. You are clueless about technology, god what a retard.
Christopher Torres
What the fuck is this real? Might actually try it if it is.
Noah Roberts
>4k @ 10$/mo this is such a fucking lie it is unreal. I have fiber, so I might be able to get near this sort of performance, but the great majority of people don't live in an area with service that can provide this, plus the input lag, I mean fuck.
Kayden Hill
I don't really see the problem with stadia, it's just another steam. Competition is good.
Ian Diaz
Murrica isn't a first world country. Come to Scandinavia, where our caps are nonexistent, our speeds are high, and our pings are low.
Noah Taylor
Here is how it will fail. >Stadia launches with lackluster exclusives and a bunch if games people can play non streaming already >Service is inconsistent with lag being variable and many people unable to solve the problem >Stadia dies out a few years later with a wimper
Nicholas Green
in beta it will be 1$, full release 5$ granted you need to be able to play it on your own pc unlike stadia, but you get a selection of games including a lot of microsoft stuff
Christian Nguyen
>Guess america's a third world now We've been a third world shithole for a while now
Josiah Adams
For the price it's pretty good. Especially since it's not just indieshit.
Noah Diaz
It has nothing to do with /pol/ or jews you fucking piece of shit racist. Google has been working with the Chinese government in full time Surveillance technology that tracks everything about its citizens profiling every one of them. So yeah whatever enjoy your fucking shit as spyware and your on screen ads midgame because if you believe anything its actually free you are fucking retarded.
Ian Morris
>lackluster exclusives Google can probably buy exclusives.
>service is inconscistant It's for 1rst world countries. I doubt google plan on launching it in africa or something.
>>Stadia dies out a few years later with a wimper More like with its offer of exclusive blockbusters, for free, most people will just adopt it as THE gaming platform.
Grayson Fisher
>"yep, let just completely ignore the US market" said no Google executive ever
Daniel Price
Man this is crazy. I just subscribed, there are good games in the offer.
Luis Lopez
Exclusive blockbusters don't matter if they play like shit.
Camden Young
Comcast&co will just make a stadia option. For like $5 or $10 euros per month, you can bypass the cap when you use stadia.
Lucas Rivera
OP is a paid Google shill. Prove me wrong.
Andrew Powell
>1080p @ 0$/mo How does this work? Why would I ever buy a game again?
Michael Roberts
Nice conspiracy theory, incel. Maybe google work with reptilians too ?
Charles Collins
Nah, they will fuck you for more money and you will be a good piggy and cum after anal penetration
Ryan Bailey
Pff, half the fuck in here are. Either that, or they're extremely stupid.
>$10 >expansive Mummy will ground you if you use her credit card on the internets?
Liam Reed
I thought Stadia was a streaming service, like Netflix but for video games. You are telling me that they expect people to pay 10 usd a month on top of buying games to play in 4k?
Nathan Hernandez
only free game is destiny 2 if you pay $10/month, nothing else has been announced
It will be like netflix, except the SD subscribtion is $0/month and you only pay if you want to play in 4k etc...
Austin Perez
>goyim, it's only 10$! surely you can spare 20$? are you that poor you cannot afford a 40$ service?! 60$ is nothing to play games on ultra settings!
Aiden Gomez
yes that's the joke
Leo Long
>Streaming movies and streaming vidya is the same thing.
Asher Anderson
The Stadia Experience >Pay $15 every month >plus taxes >plus fun taxes >Pay for each game individually >plus tax for each game >plus fun tax for each game
Why the fuck would I want to pay for a service that forces me to purchase new games ?
Is not a conspiracy theory you fucking retard its not even secret that google works with them or that they datamine every single piece of information they can with all their products its all public information that you could access online directly from google. >incel Nice buzz word, Faggot. >Maybe google work with reptilians too Oh yeah the strawman the one and only resort of ignorant brain dead morons.
Jeremiah Mitchell
>Sound: Stereo >Buy games whenever you want: YES What ?
Dog didn't react cause they can't see LCD screens like humans can.
Angel Evans
Poorfags that can't afford computers see it as their only way to play PC games, despite draconian marketing and unfeasible promises tl;dr idiots falling for very basic marketing trickery
Alexander Fisher
Retard.
Caleb Bell
>you do the same with Steam and the fact that it’s 2019 and your PC already turns into a brick without a connection.
Except none of that is true.
Daniel Nguyen
>Google can probably buy exclusives. Yeah because that's working so well with Epic, isn't it
Jordan Ortiz
This shit will flop. Also, fuck Google.
Brandon Richardson
The only reason it'll pass is because it has almost zero AAA support. The only thing keeping it up are little $30 indie games and porn.
Michael Morales
>STADIA WILL FLOP >STADIA WILL FLOP >STADIA WILL FLOP >STADIA WILL FLOP >STADIA WILL FLOP
>conspiracy theory >when Google employees were signing a letter about how their company is engaging in unethical cooperation with the Chinese government to help repress the Chinese citizenry You are fucking retarded
Ryder White
Fortnite did 2.4 billions dollars in 2018. And that's only on PC, it doesn't even account for android release. Epic will be ok.
Sebastian Gonzalez
This is just a gimmick to remove even more control and ownership from customers Mark my words
Thomas Taylor
>immediately brings up Fortnite You have no idea what I'm even talking about do you, you fucking shill