What did they eat?
ass
Imported food or meat they hunted, importing valuable items to the zone is a massive business.
"bread" and "saussage"
Salami and Vodka of course. They're scavengers and traders and you can't even grow proper food or livestock in the Zone so they have to rely on canned foods and dried meats from the outside.
imported goods from outside the zone
also the skadovk is not a settlement
it's the house of a trader with guards
stalkers do not settle, they roam around and sell\buy stuff to traders before fucking off
This is even explained in the game. There's mutant hunters and people eating mutant meat in places. It's probably fucking awful for you and full of cancer and magic but it's better than nothing.
It's a boat, you faggot. They fished.
stuff is smuggled in and out of the zone all the time, plus shit taken from the army, dogmeat is also eaten
Tourist's delight
/Thread
you know that the outside world is fine right?
Why do FO3 fans have such a problem with fucking reading?
>Stale bread 5000 Rubles per loaf
Shut up, you're just trying to trick me.
based MISERY
I played MISERY, too!
Christ MISERY fucking sucks.
not for long
Imported canned tuna.
Isn't MISERY just normal S.T.A.L.K.E.R. COP but with a bunch of bullshit artificial difficulty tweaks added into it? Never played it, just the base game multiple times, but I've heard it's got an awful reputation.
>FO3
it's a complete overhaul with a bunch of bullshit artificial difficulty tweaks
it's not the worst mod ever but it's definitely not great
Its the kind of mod that needs a ton of tweaks to actually be fun.
I've enjoyed playing it, but good god is there some dumb shit in the out of the box version.
Imagine S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat, but 4000 varieties of items have been added to every category to fill the same role but in a slightly better or worse way.
Example; vanilla has bread, sausage, and tourist's breakfast? Well, Misery will have 2 types of bread, sausage, 4 types of canned food, 14 varieties of MREs, cookable mutant meat, etc., etc., etc. apply this to literally everything in the game so there's so many different items in the game that the game stutters constantly and has the stability of a 2 legged cow and you've got Misery. Also they make artefacts borderline useless in the newest version, yea they have some niche use, but you're barely going to want to touch them unlike vanilla.
Also there's different classes the player can select, the fastest class moves at half the speed of vanilla.
Misery's dogshit, anyone that says otherwise is retarded.
Yeah it's like a mod that has the same issues the base game has, you have to tweak the shit out of it, out of the box it is barely playable but with enough fiddling you can have a lot of fun.
Semen and pieces of shit.
>download MISERY
>it's miserably bad
I mean, it delievered on the promise I guess
It has a lot more than that, but artificial difficulty is indeed a huge part of it.
Lots of new weapons, more realistic gun handling, new systems like mutant hunting actually giving rewards, overhauled graphics. But in exchange the artificial difficulty boggles the mind. Your guns break like they're made of garbage, and all are complete scrap metal when you find them, everything costs 300x what it should, everything is a bullet sponge except you, you can run about 3 feet at a time despite canonically being a Spetsnaz operator. Meanwhile in real life you should, per Russian military requirements, be able to run in full kit across literally the entire CoP game map without having to take a breather, and Russian guns are in combat seeing minimal to no professional maintenance for decades, hell Mosins over a century, and rather than costing $50 a loaf of bread in Russia costs under a dollar. The most annoying part is numerous parts of the mod are a straight up gear check. Don't have this protective suit? You're fucked, come back later.
Traded or stolen military rations. Food smuggled from the outside world (mostly canned goods), mutant meat but only if you're desperate, vodka and energy drinks.
Basically stuff that tastes like shit but will fill you up and it's easy to carry seeing as how stalkers are roamers.
Yes we call fallout 3 FO3.
they didn't eat anything
they survived on mushrooms, which was grown using vodka
realistically though there shouldn't have been that many people in the zone, there's no way the mutant wildlife or prohibited imports of food could have supported it, although artifacts and research was extremely fucking lucrative so who knows
there was plenty of bread, sausage, tinned dogshit and vodka though...you know, staple russian food
Take a decent mod and bloat it with 5 different versions of each gun, make everything fucking expensive and force an extended hobo phase with BULLSHIT damage modifiers that wasn't playtested properly. That was MISERY 2.0 . When you tone down the bullshit it's not that bad but Jesus Christ.
Top it off and all the traders won't take weapons below a certain condition % (think it was 75%). If you ever touch it go and find the trader files and put them to 30%.
Never listen to the niggers who play without tweaks. Les Miserables is a good start though I don't know if it's updated to a newer version by now.
I mean it can't be too hard to smuggle food into the edges of the zone. The military can't monitor every inch of it, after all.
The hard part is probably getting food if you're closer to the center.
jealous
>The military can't monitor every inch of it, after all
It's the Ukrainian military. They are straight up the ones smuggling it in. Bribes are everything.
Are Dead Air and Anomaly good enough?
is stalker anomaly any good?
oh they're definitely corrupt as fuck, I mean Stalkers are technically criminals for being in the zone but military boys don't bother messing with them half the time.
Dead Air sucks donkey dick, until you change the .ltx files to make movement speed and balance identical to vanilla master then it's alright I guess
Anomaly is great! You won't regret it
dead air is absolute garbage
anomaly is ok
>Fallout 3 fag still seething after getting BTFO'd in his shitty attempts to shit on New Vegas he now moves on to another game.
Dead air is unplayable without a ton of addons, but with them it can be fun. it has some interesting idea, i'll give it that.
Anomaly's pretty good, feels like a tamer version of CoM/Last day. Its getting updated soon i think.
>memery
Just get Call of Chernobyl.
>frustration is a tool i wanted to use
Bethesdrones are still fucking butthurt about this, huh?
Misery is unironically good
If you wanted "vanilla+" then play another mod
Don't forget that he tried to cover up the micro-stutters because of his shit optimization as "micro-blowouts".
CoC is kino
Based
That seems more like a self-aware joke than a genuine explanation honestly.
>stuttering was an anomaly this whole time
>Alas
>I don't want to leave this place retarded or something
ahue
>user doesn't understand a joke
>Fix my mod?
>Nah, I'll just be self aware about the egregious micro-stutters, that will surely make up for them!
It's been years and the mod still stutters constantly
Dude the base game stutters when you run around, I doubt it's possible to fix it with a mod honestly. It doesn't happen with the x64 engines though so that's something.
vanilla doesnt stutter anywhere near as badly as misery does
It more or less can't be fixed. Most stalker mods I've tried have had that stutter. The game itself is a burning dumpster fire that doesn't do anything right except shadows. And now you're tacking on more to that burning dumpster fire.
Sure, but the vanilla game DOES stutter as it loads things, obviously when you have a mod you're just adding more things to load, the only way I could see that really being fixed is with a complete rework, like the x64 engines, which don't have that stutter since they can just pump way more resources towards the game.
Sausage, bread, canned soup, and sometimes humans
Bread and sausage
>people are now shitting on Misery
What the hell happened?
>now
You don't frequent STALKER threads, do you
I dont know anons.
My first playthru was on misery, and yeah it was bunch of fucking bullshit, but it made the game, special?
In SoC halfway into game once you got the handle of how game and AI works you turn into soviet killing machine, putting entire zone under your feet, while in misery you always feel, well miserable. Every fight is desperate, you never feel in power, hauling hundreds of broken weapons, so you can buy two breads, or hunting boars to get just enough food to not to starve, exploring the map to find anything usefull like that sweet AKM on roof of gasstation, holy shit it carried me thru entire game and artifact hunting so you can actually sell them like stalkers should, and not to just get stats buffs,
It just feel right despite how not right everything is
Or maybe I'm just stuck in confirmatory bias
Also radio is 10/10 youtube.com
>Now
People have been shitting on Misery since day 1.
>now
Reminder that Clear Sky is kino
I always saw people recommending it on Yea Forums threads when asking about mods and I myself liked it a lot. I don't know what is the issue with you people.
...I always took it that it was quicksaving...
Keeno
>I don't know what is the issue with you people.
We actually want to enjoy playing STALKER
The swamps are Tarkovskian™
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>Tripfag
>le kino
>taking pictures of your fucking monitor
Filtered
Haha
Those people are what we call dickheads. I'm actually scared of you people who enjoy misery. I want to think no one does, but the mod is too popular. There are people who actually play it and have a good time.
>trip on Yea Forums
>phone screenshot
>phoneposting
>iphoneposting
what are you. Why are you
What you talking about? How can Misery not be Stalker? It captures the spirit of Stalker perfectly.
Fuck You faggo!
Hunting rifle shotgun is best gun
>It captures the spirit of Stalker perfectly.
I know right, artifacts being actually useless is quintessential STALKER, just like rusty pistols that jam every shot and copies of fucking Mein Kampf
Yep, it makes the game actually harsh and painful as The Zone.
It also makes Spetsnaz walk like they have broken kneecaps, dogs bulletproof, AKs fall apart after two magazines without cleaning, and a decent meal cost more than a car
Yes, same answer as my last reply.
Reminder that people hated Clear Sky because it’s the most difficult one.
boolits
And also swamps were one of the best parts plebs won’t understand
>Realism is GOOD
>Also unrealistic player punishment is GOOD
>The zone is le miserable, right???
Just go to Syria with a butter knife if you want punishing realism so bad, you stupid autist
i've had call of pripyat in my pc for so long but i can't get myself to play it. i find it so strenuous to start a new playthrough of stalker
Swampkino
Jeez, touchy, aren't you? I, like others, enjoy some realism in vidya for a more challenging and immersive experience. No need to get all mad on me. Jesus.
Every step you take is literally kino. Why did the masses hate the swamps so much?
I think you mean because it's the most slapped together broken dogshit of them.
>hey leave the swamp
>lol ur dead
>ur dead
>ur dead
>repeat until you realize the game lied to you, ragequit, or you make it through by dumb luck
>also, enemies can act as improvised artillery if you do something as stupid as take cover, since they have endless grenades and love to throw them
I swear I got killed more by my allies than enemies with grenades
>building rep with Freedom
>clearing a building of stupid dumb duty scum
>all of a sudden dozens of explosions rock my virgin slavic asshole
>there's a line of 10 freedom guys outside just lobbing grenades at the building I'm in trying to kill the last Dutyer left inside
>die 12 times trying to kill his retarded ass because they keep blowing me up and can't actually get a grenade anywhere near the guy they're aiming for
youtube.com
I actually enjoyed the swamps. Running around with garbage guns stomping bandits was fun.
>realism
I own multiple AKs. None of them ever started jamming after five seconds without cleaning. And even my non-spetsnaz ass can walk a mile without collapsing. And dogs aren't made of armor plates. Neither are foreheads.
Nah, the part I’m Agroprom Research with the Controller was great and Lake Yantar with the waves of zombies was intense. Plus getting to know Duty and Freedom better was great. It felt more like a story than Call of Pripyat.
Pick up Call of Chernobyl mod and some nice weapon skins, then boom playthrough revitalized.
It is the only stalker game i have not completed yet, why is it kino?
Plus Clear Sky has great shortcuts between maps so it never feels tedious to go back to traders or mechanics.
Yes, but we are talking about a fucked up landscape. Weapons are probably half-broken all around, moving your legs all day to survive can fuck you up real good, even more considering how fucked the air quality might be. The dogs can probably have some sort of light mutation that make them more resilient and also they are desperate as well so they wouldn't go down with one bullet. For he foreheads I legit can't think of a honest explanation for that, but I enjoy it myself, makes up for a more challenging gameplay.
It’s more like Shadow of Chernobyl in that it’s more of a progression of levels and has a more cohesive story. Also the harsher economy and artifact hunting combines with less forgiving AI makes it more difficult, so it feels more rewarding.
>Weapons are probably half-broken all around
These are Russian guns we're talking about. Opinion thoroughly discarded. The rifle in my picture still works. A newly made rifle picked up from a soldier breaks the second you look at it funny though?
>moving your legs all day to survive can fuck you up real good
You are a highly trained Spetsnaz operator sent to investigate the zone. I think you're used to a little cardio.
>even more considering how fucked the air quality might be
The zone isn't that fucked up. People live there, right now. Radiation does not stay airborne for long, the air is fine.
>The dogs can probably have some sort of light mutation that make them more resilient and also they are desperate as well so they wouldn't go down with one bullet
Their desperation does not make them any more resilient. When the brain or heart gets punctures by high speed lead, it's lights out.
>but I enjoy it myself, makes up for a more challenging gameplay.
And that is the problem. I enjoy realism. Misery promises gritty realism. Not masturbating with sandpaper fantasy.
I forgot my picture, here. This fucking gun still works.
I agree I love it
thanks for the tip, i'll try that out!
Doctor sausage and vodka, cyka
Maybe the guns were already fucked up in some way, those newly made rifles could have been produced with already fatigued materials, considering they were produced in a emergence scenario. Though you have a good point. I'll stick to the idea that the air in The Zone gotta have some bad properties to the point of fucking up people, both physically and mentally, and of course it may work on people differently. What could make the dogs resilient would be some sort of light mutation, something that could not be seen externally, desperation would just be an extra factor to make them even more hard to kick the bucket.
There are too many stalkers and mercenary NPCs since they just spawn and despawn infinitely, at least in CoP
>never ever
>Maybe the guns were already fucked up in some way, those newly made rifles could have been produced with already fatigued materials
The guns already exist. Ukraine doesn't even need to make guns hardly, they were all left by the Soviet Union.
Even my cheapest AK slapped together by Romanian orphans has never once had a failure. The sights don't line up right, you have to grind down magazines to fit properly, but it does absolutely not jam.
>What could make the dogs resilient would be some sort of light mutation, something that could not be seen externally
a standard 7n6 5.45 round can penetrate 6mm of steel at 300m. Just how tough do you think that dog is?
I don't actually believe Gunslinger exists, I think it's all just renders, otherwise you would have expected them to release fucking SOMETHING this many years in
tfw no stalker camping
>walking down the road in Ukraine at night
>see an open gate leading into the forest
Do you enter, Yea Forums?
Misery blows that is all
Maybe the guns were in fact Soviet, which could mean most of them may have come from a shipment where the materials were fatigued. The mutation in the dog may have made his flesh denser, dense enough to take a bullet of such caliber.
Don’t worry there’s a map
should we tell him this isnt fallout 3??
RedForestkino is another one of Clear Sky’s strong suits
Hope I’m not lost!
Will you shut the fuck up
Clear Sky? More like Clear Kino
MISERY is
>hey lets make the game pointlessly difficult and awkward and then jerk off about how pointlessly difficult and awkward it is
I'm all for STALKER being hard, but MISERY just isn't fun to play, period.
That gun just has a very rough exterior. None of the actual working parts that you can see in the photo look damaged at all.
Ugly-looking handguards and replaced pistol grip/stock do not change the actual functionality of the gun at all.
You're doing the equivalent of posting this car, and then saying "wow it's so rusty I'm surprised it still runs"
Daily reminder that vanilla is all you need
It makes their skin denser than steel? And bear in mind that's a 5.45. The weakest rifle round in the entire game.
>Maybe the guns were in fact Soviet, which could mean most of them may have come from a shipment where the materials were fatigued
There is one thing the Soviet Union never skimped on, and that was weaponry. Their small arms were all very well built, at least when it comes to durability. You will not find any standard Russian weapon failing to material stresses. Not a one. Not even in the darkest days of WW2 when the factories were being bombed and Mosin's were being put together as quickly as possible. Those guns are still shooting to this day, 70+ years later. AKs made in the 50s are still passing around conflict zones globally. You think some literally rusted out from bore to springs to receiver African AK is somehow going to work while one just procured from Izhevsk is going to fail? That is nonsense.
The entire fucking gun is pitted with rust, it's not just some replaced furniture there. You think the bolt or chamber is nice and clean under all that? If it looks anything like the rest of the bcg nothing but papa Mikhail's force of will is keeping it from bursting a case the next time Mbeke pulls the trigger.
>retardo mirrored gun actions
>bullets begin to drop about 10 yards from the muzzle
>tracers everywhere
no thanks
>taking a pic of your screen
>screenshot isn't even of vanilla gameplay
>having a shit opinion not even the devs would agree with
>being a tripfag
embarassing
Upgrade your flatness rating dummy
Flat is justice. You shouldn't have to shell out some rubles just for some flatness
Please recommend me stalker mods. I've been playing Call of Chernobyl and its getting kinda boring having no direction or purpose to do. Preferably hard with a long hobo phase.
escape from tarkov
Screenshot is of vanilla
What game is this?
they eat plenty of hunted meat.
this its not that bad.
Only thing that i tweak when i get misery is gun and armor repair costs, it makes no sense that you need to pay like half of avarage americans salary to fix a leather jacket by 1 point
tfw your kino is over
item variety is nice it makes loot more interesting
and if it stutters so hard maybe consider getting a not shit cpu? stalker runs fine on my fucking decade old i5 2500k, what massive kinda piece of shit you must have that is worse
>vss/val
>visual upgrade
why is the gun so mini
This post screams "I have never actually played Misery but want to pretend I know what I'm talking about"
>stalker thread
based
call of chernobyl is bunch of empty fucking maps with nothing to do and retarded quest bugs and game design options where they dont fucking playtest or have the basic fucking 5 iq to make a fucking game design properly.
Fucking retarded shit like quest object hidden in tall fucking grass so its fucking invisible unless you know exactly where it is and look down and spam use key etc.
or maybe it was some other mod that had the same map as call of chernobyl that had the completely retarded game design stalkerdrone fucking retards protect cause its "muh free therefor you are not allowed to critizise"
But COC is empty and boring as fuck.
Guys check out this new mutant I found.
this has to be the most faggotry i've ever seen
>tripfag
>likes clear sky
>treating Yea Forums like a personal blog
>updating thread as shit happens
>taking pictures of their screen, not actual screenshots
>repeated use of the word kino
would you just fuck off already i'm trying to enjoy the thread
EFT would be absolute kino if they just changed the name tarkov to pryipyat added mutants, radiation and artifacts and removed multiplayer completely.
i'd like the story to continue in stalker 2 but goddamn they will fuck it up somehow
some nice seethekino right here
tfw no Forester buddy
ur mom lol
>or maybe it was some other mod that had the same map as call of chernobyl that had the completely retarded game design
That's what it sounds like because CoC is remarkably stable.
>But COC is empty and boring as fuck.
Desu I play these games to get lost and to revel in the environments, and then kill some STALKERS for some cash to get better gear. Nobody writes essays about the gripping narratives of these games because they're not really anything to write about.
fuck off
nice quality photo
If you're going to spam pictures and blogpost, at the very least don't use a fucking phone to take pictures of your screen.
Also, fuck off, Randy.
There is a shit ton of problems. Firstly Durability is absolutely stupid, Weapons break far quicker then they would in regular CoP granted they give you all sorts of tools for repair but this doesn't help for the second issue. Everything is fucking expensive, Guns, Tools, everything. Playing the game is nearly impossible because you're fighting an constant uphill battle with prices. Early game its three anomalies just to get a shitty gun. Finally the stamina system, They made it to slow the pace down of the game but that doesn't make it suck any less, Trying to actually get anywhere feels like a chore rather then an adventure.
The only time I really had fun is when I used CE to give myself a stupid amount of money, At least at that point I kinda appreciated having all the really cool MRE's and equipment which I thought added a lot of flavor, But it's all just useless anyway since you'd never have enough money to buy it.
I like how they look when they’re photos of the screen vs screencaps. Gives a real vivid vibe to them.
Clear Sky? More like Kino Sky.
I just want a nice comfy post-apocalypse without all the mutant rad babies and great scaving.
>STALKER
>Post-Apocalypse
Fuck off Bethesda babby
>when the kino finally hits you
Escape from Tarkov
I mean, it is an apocalypse. Just a localized one. that is expanding unchecked and faster than ever after Strelok did the thing
Pretty good shot considering that's on your phone.
Tarkov, I think.
>its a "casual shitters crying about misery" episode
Fuck this thread's making me want to reinstall CoC.
Misery exists for masochistic MMO addicts.
I had to sacrifice my life to take that one
Sorry I'm late but your mom's pussy.
>Mom, look at how hardcore I am! I stick drywall screws into my dickhole for fun! Oh man, I can't wait to rub it in the face of the internet PUSSIES
people used to question what people eat in fo3 because there are no farms, he probably was referring to this
>wahhh mommy im fucking shit so the mod is bad :(((
>tfw no bloodsucker son
You tell him friend, I practiced my aim for a while and now my guns don't break immediately and the prices are now realistic!
Wait
misery is not hard, it's just tedious
you're a fucking idiot lmao
Strangely wholesome, kind of?
I like it.
Lmao
tfw no stalker squad waiting for you at the home base
90% of human enemies die to a single headshot, ammo isn't anywhere near as expensive as shitters make it out to be and saying guns break fast is just proof that you got shit on before even reaching skadovsk and uninstalled because you're full of shit
stick to the complete mods
This is just straight up lies
>tfw installed misery and les miserables and did a couple tweaks of my own and the game is now fun while still being quite hard
you're straight up shit and parrot memes about a mod you never played
I played it to Jupiter and everything negative said about the mod in the thread is 100% true.
Stop trying to look like Mr. Big Man by defending complete bullshit that the mod throws at you to look cool on the internet.
Nothing beats sniping people with the hunting shotgun’s dart or slug rounds. It’s one of the most satisfying feelings in gaming. It’s another reason why Clear Sky is so fun.
Fuck off Randy
nobody is trying to look like mr big man you fucking retard, misery has issues especially when you reach end game but everyone itt is a fucking parrot crying about non issues
>wahh theres too much clutter
stop picking up everything you find a body
>wahh ammo is expensive
stop shooting everything you see on the horizon and aim for the head
>wahh artifacts are useless
they are meant for research and to be sold for money and not glued to your balls retard
if you want to run around with 1000 rounds of ammo and mid tier armor right off the bat go play other mods, misery was made for people who want something more challenging and not slav fallout
>misery was made for people who want something more challenging
It's not more challenging, it's tedious in an MMO grind way. Because apparently that's what the retarded dev actually wanted to do.
>stop picking up everything you find a body
And spend 20 minutes looking through all of it to see which items do what because you can no longer differentiate just from a glance? There is zero reason for 300 different brands of Vodka or sausage, it's fine in moderation but the Missouri devs don't know what that means
>stop shooting everything you see on the horizon and aim for the head
I like how you are completely dancing around the fact that mutants take multiple mag dumps at worst and 10+ rounds at best
>they are meant for research and to be sold for money and not glued to your balls retard
There's that "muh realism" shit again. There is no incentive to actual get them in Misery, you can barely use them as a player and you get a pittance from any merchant for them and it just becomes a waste of resources to obtain them, which is absolutely NOT in the spirit of STALKER
Patriciantip: Vanilla STALKER is best STALKER
>And spend 20 minutes looking through all of it
oh theres a learning curve to the game? how awful reddit must know about this asap
>more lies about ammo and difficulty
just fucking neck yourself you lying faggot, headshots drop human enemies instantly unless its a exoskelly and buckshot shreds every mutant that isn't a rare like chimera/psuedogiant/burer/controller
>muh stalker spirit
its a mod meant to increase difficulty and focus on realistic aspects you absolute fucking retard
>Looking through an inventory of useless shit
>Learning curve
Holy fuck you people are delusional
The quote "What do they eat?" was from a Fallout 3 review that raised points why NV was so much more fleshed out. Like people having farms in NV, but nothing grows in FO3.
Not only that, but Anomaly, a much better and more expansive mod that combines all the maps in the game and adds every single thing Misery does to it and more on top of Warfare, an actual working faction system, and a much larger amount of missions and gameplay doesn't stutter whatsoever and runs perfectly aside from the occasional crash are bug.
>wahh i dont want to read tooktip for an item i just want action NOW NOW NOW
kys
Yea Forums isn't known for good taste even on Yea Forums; you listened to some underaged faggot from Brazil who gets literally all their world information from streamers.
>Not even a rebuttal just "LOL UR STOOPID KYS"
So you are 14 and think playing Misery makes you le hardcore gamer?
someone post the missouri health description
>throwing stones in a glass house
>focus on realistic aspects you absolute fucking retard
Not one aspect of it is realistic in any way.
>trained spetsnaz soldier
Can't run more than 10 feet without nearly dying from exhaustion. Has to eat 20 sausages which cost more than a used car to recover.
>guns
Can't kill shit despite not a single engagement even being possibly outside of their effective range due to rendering limitations. Bullets to head and heart magically no longer kill animals. Stalkers take multiple pistol rounds to head, keep walking. Guns that in real life can go thousands of rounds between cleaning without stoppages or damage of any kind suddenly fall apart in your hands.
>economy
is again ridiculous, made without any tethering to reality whatsoever
>shotguns drop mutants
bullshit you lying fucker.
Objective rankings:
Shadow of Chernobyl>Clear Sky>Call of Pripyat
Quick, give me a comfy mod to replay COP on.
>le russian guns are made of nintendium and can't be broken!
AK47s are shit and were only thought of as dependent because they were far less shit than American or German rifles which were cheaply made garbage who had their production sold out to the lowest bidder, convicts, and women.
Finnish- and Egyptian-made weapons at the time were vastly superior but made in much lower quantities at much higher prices.
Now they only get talked up a lot because Russians have shitty self-esteem and a lot of bad propaganda. If you're shilling "Russian made = durable" you're on par with a Fudd.
Anomaly, there's no other reason to play any other mod at this point since they all only do what Anomaly does but in a vastly inferior manner.
what's the best overhaul mod then? It's Dead Air any good?
vanilla with absolute nature 4 and russian voices
>you're on par with a Fudd
I bet I own more ARs than you own guns total friend. If I'm a fudd I'm the strangest one there is.
>AK47s are shit and were only thought of as dependent because they were far less shit than American or German rifles which were cheaply made garbage
Completely and totally wrong. When the AK first entered service it was the most advanced service rifle in the entire world.
>because they were far less shit than American or German rifles
Which ones? Let's be specific, so I can tell you exactly why you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.
>Finnish- and Egyptian-made weapons at the time were vastly superior but made in much lower quantities at much higher prices.
Again, which ones specifically? Are we just talking the entire history of Russian firearms? Are we talking Sakos, Valmets, Maadis, AKs? Mausers and Hakims and Mosins?
Anyway, you don't seem to understand the difference between a good design and a well built gun. Russian guns are very well built. Their steel and heat treatment are all quality work. You can really see the difference when comparing US made AKs vs any Eastern Bloc AKs. No US AK is as well built as even the worst Eastern Bloc ones. The reasons for that are many, largely because AKs require more actual human labor, which is more expensive in the west, vs machinery required for more modern designs allowing more automated production, which is cheaper in the west. Yes, some guys making a handful of Sakos for one of the least populated countries on earth with no active military engagements do indeed have more time to put into producing a fancier product, that is true.
Russian guns are made like shit and most of their actual-good gunsmiths died shortly after WW2.
Yeah okay, Ivan. Tell me more about how your missiles can pierce US carrier armor effortlessly and how you have a trillion billion working nukes and totally not a completely failed economy and infrastructure.
>Russian guns are made like shit
No, they aren't. Assuming you're American, it's a shame our import bans make the Russian ones prohibitively expensive, or you could see it for yourself. It's easy to spout off about things you have no knowledge of. There are some AK pattern guns that are better, Beryl Archers and Sakos and Valmets come to mind. But there is nothing lacking when it comes to durability. The AK is not some unjammable machine like movies and videogames claim, but they were also not the garbage things people claim either. They were once cheap, and that has tainted the public opinion of them. But they were cheap because the state's that produced them all footed the bill for their production and development and tooling, and because they were made en masse for a war that never came.
If anything they're designed like shit. Cheap stampings, overgassed pistons, simple bolts. Foolproof design so that even Romanians can do it right.
>Ivan
No, just stating the fact that pretty much the one area the Eastern Bloc actually managed to use their authoritarian governments and not fuck up was arms development and production. They took it seriously and ensured their quality, unlike literally everything else they did. A big part of it was Russia giving out the AK design to all its allies and helping them set up production to proper standards.
>When the AK first entered service it was the most advanced service rifle in the entire world
Really user? Tell me more.
>no and ur american and ur guns are shit!
Jesus, kill yourself. Go shit your pants on /k/ so everyone can laugh.
So that’s why they call it the Red Forest hehe
>Really user? Tell me more
It was put into service in 1949. The US wouldn't even issue the m14 until 1949. Us soldiers were using Garands. Most of the world was still issuing bolt action rifles. The French were designing a new service rifle, the MAS-49, but it wouldn't enter service until 1951. Even then it was more like the M1 garand, a full powered rather than intermediate power rifle.
>no and ur american and ur guns are shit!
Hmm, no that's not what I said at all. I'm assuming you're American because you seem to think you know something about guns. Was I wrong? And American guns are not shit-did you miss the part about me owning multiple ARs? American AKs are shit and quite frankly most are unsafe. American ARs are some of the best rifles in the world on the other hand. Accuracy that was impossible even for the most expensive semi-automatic precision rifles a few decades ago can now be had in budget ARs.
>Jesus, kill yourself. Go shit your pants on /k/ so everyone can laugh.
If this were /k/ they'd be telling you to kill yourself for daring to insult the great prophet Mikhail Kalashnikov's work.
>The US wouldn't even issue the m14 until 1949
Meant 1959.
Stcop, absolute nature, absolute structures and atmosfear. Just look up stcop it includes all instructions but the cop version not the coc version
>ak made in 1958 still runs fine
>hurr durr they crumble instantly
Maybe stop buying IO
So that's what happened, all the guns in Ukraine were suddenly replaced with Century and IO knockoffs. It all makes sense