Tore-Chads, get in here!
VTMB 2
Other urls found in this thread:
>retards on Yea Forums wished on the monkey's paw and now they're getting exactly what they deserve
fucking priceless, enjoy your muslim transvestites
He cute
HAIL MIGHTY ANTIDLUVIAN TREMERE! S-stop laughing you guys...!
Delete this or there will be consequences.
what is the context of this? Did Tremere really turn into a fucking worm. Is this Saulots trickery.
Male models in 1 were uncanny as fuck.
Apart from Dale and piano guy, 2 seems to have improved on that regard.
For me, it's Gangrel
>Apart from Dale and piano guy
You sure?
dumbass
Forgot about him as well.
Overall, my point still stands. At worst, male models look bland (Ventrue render) over "Wtf is up with his head shape?"
Saulot turned Tremere into a worm for a while.
Brujah have been always faggots, so that's respectful with the lore
Leather daddy
He's right though. Trip was only guy that was semi-decent looking. Romero as well. Everyone else had fucked up proportions.
Sebastian in particular looked like a weird chipmunk.
All fucking Anarchs must fucking burn.
Is that Natalie Hershlag?
SJW game.
VV reporting in
Post the Ventrue render
Nines was decent as well.
I kind of like the slightly stylized look of character models though.
Based and velvetpilled
IT STILL HURTS!
Nosferatu >>>> everyone else
Isn't he our roomie? I hope he just chills out in the apartment the entire game texting you netflix updates.
TORRIE BELLIES FILL WITH MALK JELLY
Gary is the only based Nossie.
>not just a worse model
>but worse graphics
OH NONONONONO
>another user that can't handle the smug Toreador
Toreadors are the clan of the most beautiful women and me-
This. I unironically want to read texts from this dude.
>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
All of the male Nosferatu in 1 are pretty based.
>he wouldn't fuck him
t.Nossie
>
I'll have you know that Bishop Vick was beeeautiful.
I larped as Toreachad
fucked Jeanette in the ass
it's already ruined by cultural marxism and will be dead on arrival
Besides the pozzing, Vick wasn't bad looking. The Sabbat does that to people.
i like his voice
Why does doing the right thing feel so wrong, bros
He's so based
Based
He has the same voice like Grout and Kilpatrick.
>got fucked in the ass by Jeanette
FTFY
>465273928
that's very impressive
If a Kindred is infected with a disease, what are some way to purge it from their blood? Tremere rituals?
Toreadors are literally the clan of roasties.
It's best for everyone involved if you respect the masquerade.
Celeryity
Bananamalism
Potatonce
Oblivionion
Vicissiturnip
Obfusgrape
Dillmentation
Fortiprune
Tomatourgy
Ausparagus
Dominutmeg
Pearsance
Protein
Mangokavian
Brujalapeno
Tremelon
Nosferadish
Toreadate
Ventruffle
Gangravy
Lasombread
Assalamite
Tzimiso
Giovanilla
Ravnioli
Why don't the hunters just expose the masquerade? They usually have more than enough evidence. If every single Tom, Dick and Harry knew about vampires and what to do about them then they would be absolutely fucked.
Jeanette is a sub, trained during years by her own father
based
>the literal existence of Toreadors makes Vampcels SEETHE
How do they do it, Yea Forumsros?
Almost everyone had shared voice actors.
Fun fact: Female Sire was voiced by VV's voice actress, while male Sire was voiced by Gary's. So, you basically fucked either VV/Gary at the intro.
In V5, the government knows about Kindred existence, but intentionally keeps it under wraps for obvious reasons. Better to eradicate the hellspawn or whatever than to make them public and decide their fate democratically.
Panic, chaos and mayhem
>Jeanette is a sub
Tell that to LaCroix.
While, yes, Hunters fight the "evil" undead, they're freaks of nature as well. Can you really believe an ordinary human can defeat a monster?
I would imagine they want to keep a low profile due to both mass hysteria (humans) and not wanting to risk powerful vampires going into hiding (or simply going apeshit)
>Imagine being a Nossie
>lurking in the basement all night
>turn qts into abominations
>your Ante is out there hunting you
>they picked two VA-s with most erotic voices to voice sexy scene at the start
Based.
Care for anything, Kindred? Perhaps tea?
A very large majority of vampires live in major cities. Only 54% of humans live in any urban environment. In major cities, humans outnumber vampires 100,000 to 1, on average.
1v1 isn't a contest for a vampire, but 1v100,000?
>they picked two VA-s with most erotic voices to voice sexy scene at the start
Obviously. Duh! That's how it works. They won't put Imalia's irritating voice or Sebastian's rich-boi-bitch-boi voice for such a... scene.
Soul sucker begone
This Toreadatorship will be stopped soon
Slug genocide, best day of my life.
Lasombros...where are you...
>tfw we won't have VV's voice actress back
At least we have Gary's back.
man the fucked up big time
*speeds behind you*
>1v100,000
Of what generation?
All the male models are garbage.
>fucking Bob who is random enemy has way better render than some NPC guy that is supposedly important enough to be a render for certain clan
JUST
I don't see how it'd be worse than the Red Panic where people were worried if their neighbors were soviet spies, and, unlike the Salem witch trials, you don't necessarily need to kill anyone, just expose them to the sun and see what happens. It'd be easy to document nowadays too.
The only difficult part is lower gen vamps who could easily fuck up entire crowds, not sure how hunters and humans could handle them. But, speaking of hunters, you could train a shitload more and conscript entire armies to scour every nation for The Enemy. Vamps are objectively an emergency level threat so it wouldn't be unwarranted.
Bob got his render done by Platige.
Ventrue guy didn't.
At least we know there are still str8 guys working on the game.
>we won't have VV's voice actress back
I'd settle for a cameo if nothing else.
is that a guy or a flat-chested tomboy? hoping for the latter
>NEW GAME BAD, OLD GAME GOOD
*cough*
>OLD GAME BAD
>NEW GAME GOOD
This took me completely by surprise when I first played, to the point that I let the masquerade violation occur just to see what would happen
Even a fledgling can fuck up a crowd of humans without much problems, plus vampirism can be like a plague, imagine mass embraces everywhere in an open conflict.
YAMA
KINGS
But the female Toreador is the worst looking chick in the game.
W-what killed Lasombra after he had blocked the sun for a month?
>Yea Forums preferring Toreador over Nosferatu
I don't understand.
>Apart from Dale and piano guy, 2 seems to have improved on that regard.
>Brujah guy looks like shit
>Ventrue guy looks like shit
>Toreador on piano looks like gremlin
>Bald Bruce Wills with fucked up eyes
>Dale's huge nose is comical
>only decent looking guys are Jaime looking Ventrue guy and retarded brown Lestat/Tom Cruise/ on Ferris Wheel
>> 2 seems to have improved on that regard.
Nope. It did not. However, I give no shit about how dudes are looking. Lou and Lilian are looking good. Tremere chick is cute. Toreador girl is a cute tomboy. Malkavian chick doesn't look too bad either. Therefore, it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
Based on a female model fro the 60s.
Toreador Mommy is best girl so far
Shit looks so inconsistent. This confirms they have no Q&A. Get ready for another unofficial patch.
>new-neo-nu-Yea Forums
FTFY
M*ge scum, but Lasombra is now a real shadow monster.
>retarded brown Lestat/Tom Cruise
There is un-retarded version?
source?
>After surrounding the planet as a great shadow and cutting off sunlight for a month, there is a piercing screech from [Lasombra] and a torrential rain of blood as something slays the Antideluvian. No one is sure what...
You know the drill, Yea Forums.
>only people that talk about this game are haters and LARPERs
Is it really DOA?
Gaia. FUCK leeches.
source?
What's wrong with vampire Bruce Wills? He ain't handsome, or pretty, but I wouldn't call him uncanny? Just average bald old dude.
was it God
L-lewd
explain
Gaia hated Garou! They're a allergic reaction.
>Even a fledgling can fuck up a crowd of humans without much problems
Maybe a hapless crowd of angry village people but trained, decked-out soldiers who knew what a vamp was capable of? No way. Otherwise there'd be no reason to not just break the Masquerade and try to farm humans.
They also happen to be the ones who blindly shill the sequel.
>However, I give no shit about how dudes are looking.
This and based.
>literally doing the fuck niggers pose
is vtmb2 dare I say..../our game/?
DELETE THIS
it says in v5 that hunters actively dont want the masquerade to be broken because sjws might wanna stop the inquisition lmao
>and retarded brown Lestat/Tom Cruise/ on Ferris Wheel
Fuck you. Now I can't unsee it.
Who is he?
That was in Gehenna when he came back as the real shadow monster. He surrounded earth and fed off the souls of everyone who died during Gehenna, caused global temps to plummet and almost all plant life to die off, then got merced by...SOMETHING
Your gay lover.
Caine got sick of his emo shit.
Thats a render for the CG trailer not the game.
Bottom line is nobody want an open conflict, so they fight in the shadows.
They had a hard time to stop Ravnos during the Week of Nightmares.
And what was that SOMETHING?
Based
You guys always complain about graphics. When the game is out, no one will care.
He looks like the guy manning the glory hole at the 4 th stall in manholes.
Keep telling yourself that.
WE DON'T KNOW!
NOOOO
>retarded brown Lestat/Tom Cruise/ on Ferris Wheel
I thought that I was the only one who thought of this the first time I saw him.
So it is Willis?
The game lacks soul.
good god it really is a guy
Nope. At least there is no confirmation of that. It's just anons calling him like that because of how he looks. Kinda like how that user compared Ventrue guy to Jaime and cover guy to Lestat.
>trannyadors
>fuck Anarch and fuck the Sabbat
HE'S IN!
what? explain
>a girl with xtra smol titties is a guy
Cope
Are the Ventrue evil?
>deranged Malkavian is based off of scientologist nut
Fitting, desu.
ohh they are chads, all right.
>vampire lives matter
Just stop putting Lestat images in my head ffs
What further explanation is required?
I'm willing to forgive the lack of cute dudes if they bring LaCroix
Sometimes. But perpetuated cultural traits and clan stereotypes are still just stereotypes at the end of the day.
V-vampires are sentient beings too, just like you and me, and they... they were human once. Stop the slaughter, bleed your daughters!
it's a female model from the 60's.
>When a leech enters your woods
REEEEEEEEEEEE
Fuck that part, I had to cheese the AI to beat it after 13 tries.
>Bruce Wills Vs. Tom Cruise
kek
Yes, you kill off most of the camarilla at the end which happen to be Ventrue.
Reminder to pirate it
based
The Ventrue male looks like Jensen Ackles here, kinda.
All vampires are evil.
I really just cant get past her face
>Malkavian
Why am I not surprised?
is that a male or female
>LOOK AT THIS DUDE
have fun torefags!
>Game
>Game: Meme Edition
>Game: Meme Edition With Season Pass
Why is this allowed?
Inb4 someone tries to "correct" you that guy on the cover is a Toreador.
Dont worry, he's in
I think it's a girl
she is just the grand master of the itty bitty titty committee
and there will be more to come after all that
If Malkavian Gary is at least 1% like Lestat, then he's best boy confirmed.
I'm sure they will make some goodlooking males too user
>An entire type of biological woman is verboten now because everyone has been that affected by media pushing transsexual imagery and messages down our collective throats
Clown world.
:^)
Quit being faceblind. She looks like a fucking blob. You just dont see it cause "durrr boobies
...
>seething Tore->CHADS
Only one? You can't have big boobs either for some reason.
these niggas acting like they never saw a flat-chested girl like Riley Reid, Kristina Rose, Missy Stone, Tori Black, Chelsie Rae or Ashli Orion
I wouldn't even be mad, but I'm pretty sure that Tom would.
What about the rest, goy?
Malks are cute.
Also, hope they deliver a decent chunk of gameplay at E3.
She looks like Christina Hendricks in her prime
>niggas
go back
Need more names, champ.
> Worse, from the hunters’ viewpoint, they could not prevent foolish or self-interested interference on behalf of “undead civil rights,” “negotiating with a new species,” “the opportunities for knowledge.” or any other excuse the kine would make to remain in their comfortable slaughter pen.
More like Christina Hendricks now, what a hag.
Am I supposed to recognize these probable coalburners by their names?
Damn they are hot
I want to see something of the VNs too
wow, thats cucked
That's kinda red-pilled, did they fire the guy who wrote it yet?
I'd like to see some character interaction if we can.
Got the whole package.
As if he ever gave a single shit when video games stole his likeness in some way. plz
holy apex faceblind batman
she looks nothing like christina hendricks
now post the one with the nose ring
Oh man that word has lost all meaning.
She was never a ten either. She just had huge tits
AJ Applegate, Kira Noir, Kaylani Lei (pre-boobjob), Dakota Skye, Renee Roulette
Good goy. Don't forget to shill our game now!
Will probably end up refunding it after seeing its gameplay in two days. I'm still upset about Nosferatu not making it in already.
>Playtime: None
This makes me chuckle.
>everything said is literal
>taking what a malk says at face value
Don't worry goy, you will wet your sweet, tight panties when you see the new trailer! Oh, I promise! And, btw we will include them later on as moar DLC! YES!
Meh. Anyway, no point in discussing it when guy on the cover isn't obviously borrowing his likeness (even though they do look similar from that angle he was shown). Although ... at the same time, it's possible they might've somewhat based him off of Tom Cruise's Lestat, which is why their features kinda match? Who knows.
Jeanette is a good girl, she wouldn't lie about such things.
This shit should be posted at the start of each thread.
>believing Malkavian sluts
As if Based Lacroix would ever sully himself in such a way
So? I hope we can turn Ivanka into our Ghoul
Rudi isnt in the game, and the devs did not write the character either. Fuck off retard.
shame
would have made more sense as a guy
No one reads your shitty spam
I'd love to see dialog, not just combat but I I don't have high hopes of that unless they show a lot of stuff off like CDPR did with the 45 minute CP2077 video. You need a decent chunk of footage to show that kind of stuff off I feel.
Dilate.
Yeah, that's one area they haven't really properly shown off yet, and it's a big chunk of what made 1 so memorable.
Well, there's the Clan teasers but those were god-awful, for the most part. If that's the standard we're to expect then this game is thoroughly fucked.
I remember last year the bullshit that happened with Cyberpunk 2077 being transphobic or some crap, and now we have you fucks getting triggered in the same way for the opposite reasons.
Its really interesting how similar you are to each other.
>based
>FagCroix
pick only one
have sex
Digital distribution
Subhumans paying for digital distribution
Clans are free dlc.
t.Nines
I will screencap this.
Would you join the Camarilla?
Obviously. It's mainly a joke like Bruce Wills thing.
I hope we'll get a DRM-free GoG retail version. I'll cancel my pre-order immediately to get one.
Nothing about any collective edition as well.
nah
I'd join the true heirs of Caine.
Of course. Can't wait to play as a loyalist Brujah and smash the shitty anarchs with my superior Potence & Celerity.
giv cute Tore gf
>he pre-orders
How about I save you the MB you would waste on your screencap?
First run, they said you can join other factions too, so I will try the others later.
>Camarilla
>Sabbat
>Anarch
>independent?
>girl
You're not allowed to be a butch woman or an effeminate guy anymore. At first you were gay. Now you're trans. Because having qualities that are in any way different from a stereotype means, in 2019, that you are a different stereotype. In 2019 everything is based on stereotypes, and it's considered progress.
Brujah have their own Sect now, Anarch
Yeah fuck those faggots, I'll stay true to Camarilla.
Is he king of the pirates yet?
>some
Can't wait.
So its a step back and to the left.
He hasn't finished making friends along the way.
>June 4th
>some clans as free DLC
>some
>free
Isn't there an older tweet where they specifically said ALL post-launch clans would be free?
I doubt this is an intentional change, just poorly-phrased answer.
This shit is going to last longer than Ippo has.
Rustling robes of the reaper
Why did it take you by surprise?
Stop projecting, tranny
>I doubt this is an intentional change
right...
GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT
THE WAIT IS KILLING ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I aM nO lOnGeR hErE.
It doesn't make sense for them to backtrack on that. The news is already out that new clans will be free, this is just obvious bad PR.
Vampire: The Masquerade – Coteries of New York comes out this year
Don't really care much about some VN
Sabbat, fuck the Camarilla, fuck your masquerade.
i wish a cute vampire would embrace me
How about a cute Nossie?
If you were one of the heads of a Hunter organization, how would you realistically take meaningful steps to exterminate all Kindred (besides Caine, since that's impossible, unless you're God)?
BORN TO RULE
WORLD IS A SUCK
KILL EM ALL 1493
I AM CURSE MAN
420 GORILLION DEAD KINE
Arson. Lots of arson.
She is indeed cute.
HYSTERIA
HYSTERIA
based 10th of june poster
based femnos poster
based hunter poster
I wouldn't seek to exterminate all of them. I'd run things diplomatically and keep my hunters as a pen of shock troops. When my people show up, the associated parties will have a sense of gravity that reflects how badly they've fucked up.
Was there any renowned vampiric knightly order in the Dark Ages, or even an elite military team in the modern day? (Black Hand of the Sabbat excluded)
Leakfags!!!
Now is your time to appear. Gameplay footage will drop in less than two days. Give us some spoilers. Even if they aren't anything new that we already don't know. Just give us some hints/leaks.
Leakfags who upload certain image that spoils something (even if it's just a mere render), get a bonus.
Leakers are fucking useless. They never appear when they are needed, nor they ever spoil anything new. Don't count on them as such.
I predict the combat to be like Condemned, where you have to time your blocks and attacks.
Screencap this
fuck goddamn it I'm so late
CUTEST CLAN!!!
I hope they show some of the cc
They didn't show straight male V.
>leakers
>doing anything
Pick one.
no one gives a shit, get back to restera bitch
who the fuck is this imposter?
>that nose ring
Dios mio...
don't bully chestlets
what clan even is that
Would you put your dick her mouth?
usurper
This is the worse out of all the 3 female renders.
Tumblr
>licks
Why haven't you Awakened yet?
Hey babe, might linking your resetera profile?
You can just drain her a little and she'll leave you alone
BUT CAN YOU ROMANCE TOTALLY NOT LESTAT?
imagine the smell
AY TONE
What's up with fingerless gloves autism in this game? Is this some Seattle type of thing, or just Brian's autism?
Sure.
Brian's autism.
Both
best girl
>sabbat
Is there any evidence that he was sabbat? He definitely wasn't a bishop because if he was he'd have fucked you up.
I hope we can kill her in the game. I know I will, multiple times.
THE TIME FOR WORDS HAS COME AND GONE MY BROTHER
Both. Fingerless gloves in public are unironically how you can tell that someone is from Seattle.
Seems like she's riding the SJW train to get more hot guys and exposed dicks in games
Aren't you guys into that?
> He definitely wasn't a bishop because if he was he'd have fucked you up.
just like archbishop andrei
Not being against sex in games is great, but it doesn't entirely make up for all the other dumb shit she does.
I've seen lot of folks in Seattle that were wearing fingerless gloves. So it's both most likely.
I thought they were alright. I liked the distinct art style and animation, even if the line deliveries of a few of them were a little stiff.
Seeing how characters actually bounce off of each other in conversation is another matter though.
is that cosmo
You fight them at two completely different parts of the game. And there wouldn't be a bishop and archbishop in the same city, the archbishop controls his immediate domain as well as others in a larger area.
Cosmo is a Nos.
Why would a vampire even wear gloves
...
The far-left think their opposition is the ever-flickering candle of the far-right. They can't even entertain within their feeble imaginations what's actually going to happen to them. And I'm done giving warnings.
So they can take them off and dramatically slap each other with them to initiate duels
Same reason they wear clothes.
You'll get to see this.
He wasn't in the Sabbat. He might have Bishop in his name but that's just a coincidence. I don't think the Sabbat would support doomsday cultists actually trying to destroy the world when their whole thing is stopping the Antedeluvians from doing that.
Continuing my thought he also didn't have any sabbat principles. He seemed to hate his condition rather than revel in it and he wanted to end the world rather than save it from the antediluvians. You can have a jesus freak toreador antitribu (I have one as archbishop in my current game I'm running) but vick was not the way to do it.
Yeah, I agree he couldn't have been sabbat. He just doesn't have any of the philosophy of the sword of caine.
based and goth gfpilled
I'm sorry, user, but we have Brian on and you are asking a lot of specific questions that we can't answer, which is a bummer.
The sabbat actually has an inquisition branch that seeks out and destroys doomsday cults and demon worshipers in their cities so he 100% couldn't have been sabbat. He'd have been put down by some 6th gen ventrue antribu monster ages ago with how blatant he was.
Correction, you'll get to see this
*unzips*
Style points.
They did said that they WOULD answer these questions and others in the future streams after E3.
So, it's safe to assume that they'll show most of these things asked on E3.
>clan havens
>boxart guy's identity
>returning VAs
if your prints had been taken before you were embraced and you left them all over a crime scene it'd probably spark off some second inquisition investigation when the police get a match but they're from an allegedly dead guy.
Fingerless though is just /fa/ and autism
But do long-dead corpses leave fingerprints? I was under the impression they were caused by the natural oils on your hands.
I suppose frequent Blush of Life users might have that problem.
What are some small changes they could make that would completely fuck up the sequel? I'll start.
>dialogue wheel
no big tit vampires.
Alexia Sky, Kaycee Brooks, Lexy Love came to my mind
They've said that there will be more streams after E3 and that they will be able to talk more after it. They've also said that they will keep these questions, and others, noted. How much will they reveal after E3? No clue. It's clear that footage on E3 will be focused on the gameplay mainly. Then, there is that demo as well. If I had to guess what will it be shown/spoiled, it would be:
>character creator
>intro itself: whole thing about you waking up in the courtroom and being grilled by Bruce Wills looking fella, the fire starting out of nowhere and you escaping only to end up living with your newfound neet thin blood friend
Therefore...
>Bruce Wills guy will be shown 100%
>Dale
Possible...
>characters from trailer/renders might be shown in the courtroom as throwback to 1
The rest will just focus on showing a gameplay most likely. They also might tease clan havens and cover vampire... but somehow I doubt we'll get actual spoiler about his identity. We shall see.
>committing petty crimes as a vampire
That's what ghouls are for. Never get your own hands dirty.
You say that but looking pretty damn good.
You gotta start somewhere.
oh fuck you're right, I didn't think it through that far
Inconnu > Autarkis > Sabbat > Camarilla > Anarchs
Not having Deb in.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and you need glasses.
The character creator is the thing I want to see most.
>but somehow I doubt we'll get actual spoiler about his identity
I think it will be the opposite. There is no point to drag that case anymore. Beehive guy even almost said something about it before correcting himself and saying how he isn't sure that they can talk about that yet either.
>Beehive guy
lmao
You forgot TMR and the independent clans
>I was under the impression they were caused by the natural oils on your hands.
They could still leave one if they got oil on their hands or some other kind of thick liquid. Also I dunno how many vampires regularly wash their hands but they'd also probably just have grime built up naturally that could leave a print.
they fucking need Deb
>not washing your hands
For shame! I bet you're a gangrel, too.
Imagine being a fucking tremere
>Your progenitor is a fucking WORM
>Literally tzimisce in denial
>Made enemies with almost half of clans
>First in being the second in camarilla
>Diableried saulot and still got bamboozled over it
>talk shit get hit
>neeerds
>Their hq got zerg rushed by drones
CHECKED!
Yeah but magic though.
>have to suck off all your superiors in a gay ceremony for fags
Though I believe they got rid of that one in v5.
Eh, they bathe. Occasionally.
>implying animals don't self-groom
Best clan
>Eh, they bathe. Occasionally.
Do bloodbaths count?
>thaumaturgy so strong their very existence makes incels' blood boil
lmao have sex
Do vampire trannies need to dilate?
>neeerds
There are cute goth nerds though.
Even more than usual trannies. The curse of vampirism causes your body to restore itself to the state you were upon Embrace.
I still don't know how Tzimisce Vicissitude works with respect to the curse.
Yes, they do. It's a damning curse of the gods that you can never escape, as punishment for being retarded.
LMAO
How do you take these shots of the player character?
>Goth
>Light makes it look like she has heart pupils
You seem to be the one who needs glasses mate.
You see fucking heart pupils?
You actually, unironically need glasses.
>heart pupils
That's your defense of that ugly shit? The heart pupils you think you see?
Yes
If you pull out, would you die?
Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a Turk.
oh no no no look at this fledgling...
because paradox
Genuinely awful post.
you've expanded your repertoire most tastefully, excellent work
>Ravnioli
indeed
Reminder
What is it about Tremere chads that makes everyone so jealous?
Never seen this kind of seethe directed towards anyone else, how do we do it bros?
>brujalapeno
Damnit that actually made me laugh
Go back to your chantry and read your books, nerd.
>no janice griffith