Which ending is the bad ending?

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It depends on what you think it's best for you.

None of them are bad per se, but none of them are necessarily good either. It depends on what you got out of it.

>have the door to the cosmos itself open to you
>voluntarily close it
>"good" ending

None are. All of them have their pros and cons. If you choose Sunrise or replace Gehrman the hunt continues but youre either free of the dream or the MP’s bitch. The third ending is the best for humanity allegedly from the trophy description, but at the same time youre a filthy slug.

I like the ending where you end gehrman’s suffering and take his place. Killing Oedon and ending the hunt seems like the best ending but who knows what you’ll do with the power of a god

all are bad/good more or less
gehrman 2.0 repeat the same shit he did
squid who knows what you will become
wake up forget all shit without finishing the job meaning shit keeps on going, I hate this one the most.

>killing Oedon
umm

None, you can’t have a “good” ending now because trannies think complete amorality is the only way of having nuance

>wake up and forget
I mean, it's not like when Eileen or Djura were kicked out of the dream, they forgot.

Oedon is the moon presence. Pretty sure he takes an L in the “true” ending

Fuck yeah. Not everyone wants to be a fucking squid or mindless hunter for eternity.

All of them are bad endings because they signal the end of the game.

>Oedon is the moon presence
Based on what?

Where does it say that Oedon is the moon presence?

Supposedly Gehrman takes the place of Oedon’s lost child, which is why he keeps him immortal in the dream. I’m not sure why using the umbilical cords and then killing gehrman summons him but I’m sure it has some connection to the fatherhood theme. At least that’s how I interpreted it, I don’t see what else the super final boss would be but the father of the gods.

Oedon has no physical form, you retard.

I would have love to see your old character as the new final boss after doing the Replace Gehrman ending, like how there's your tombstone if you choosed to kill yourself.

You summon the MP by killing Gehrman. It shows up because you just killed it's kid and it wants a replacement. The umbilical cords factor in by giving you a high enough powerlevel to resist the succ and not become its slave.

Maybe not in the normal yharnam realm, or maybe humans can’t interpret a form in the normal realm. But it’s the hunter’s dream, it’s different.

I don't think that's a very convincing argument.
Moon Presence is for sure a very powerful being that probably has something to do with the existence of the Hunter's Dream, but that doesn't mean it's Oedon.
>"The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood."
The fact that Moon Presence is explicitly called "nameless" and both Oedon runes call Oedon "formless" suggests to me that they are not the same thing. Because Moon Presence has a form, and Oedon is a name.

What's the deal with Gehrman and Lady Maria?
Why is he such a creep with her?

He wants to fuck her.

Here is the canon ending, user.
>100% completion ending is canon
>(you) become the squid kid
>(you) are relaxing in the doll's arms
>"oh good hunter, what do you dream about?"
>camera pans to show the squid kid's dream
>(you) are dreaming of (yourself) doing NG+
>and clearing chalices
>and when (you) are done with NG+ you choose to become a squid for the 2nd time
>and (you) start dreaming again
>and this repeats
>and repeats
>and repeats
>an endless Russian nesting doll of nightmares, it's just hunter's dreams all the way down
>forever

>Gehrman, why does this doll look exactly like me?
what do?

Yeah I figured out the killing his kid part, and I guess the umbilical cords also make sense with how much insight they give you.
I guess one of the reasons I interpreted MP as Oedon is because the Oedon rune is sort of tendril shaped like MP. Maybe I’m wrong, unless there’s something specifically contradicting it I guess it’ll be my headcanon haha

He's an incel. a 100 years old incel.

They were lovers when they were alive, and her loss affected him so much he made a doll in her likeness. However he realized that a living doll could never be a replacement and came to despise her, which is why he lets you just use her like a tool. It’s why when you kill Maria for real the doll can sense it and feels “free.”

>sleeping comfy with Doll forever
Not the worst outcome...
In the real world he made her after Maria "death". he missed her too much.
i wonder how the doll (nightmare world) was made. and if Gehrman fucked her or not.

they were never lovers, Gehrman adopted her as a child. she saw him as her mentor/father, but Gehrnam became obsessed in a sick way with her.
I love that Gehrman is a fucking degenerate for some reasons.

How often do you think he uses the doll as an onahole?
She bleeds white so she must be filled to the brim with his semen.

>In the real world he made her after Maria "death". he missed her too much.
I dunno about that. The Old Hunters that you find in the Nightmare can rally when they hit you, iirc. The same ones who's gear says that they were all sucked into the Hunter's Nightmare along with Maria when she "died." But if they can rally, then that means that they had lived in the Hunter's Dream, meaning that Gehrman had already made his blood contract with the MP when Maria "died." Meaning that Gehrman would have had to have made the doll prior to making the contract (and thus making it when Maria was still alive), since the MP never let him leave his prison after it was formed.

>(and thus making it when Maria was still alive
Jesus, make the guy even creepier.
i'm honestly impressed there was no controversy because of Gehrmam obsession

Gehrman, unironically needs to have sex

The twitter brigade isn't good enough at videogames to attack From games

We will have a real trailer or just a teaser with the logo?

user, Bloodborne released in 2015.

Fuck, wrong thread

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I’m afraid it’s been... four years

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I never played much of Bloodborne but the Paleblood Hunt was a fun read. Wish there were more like that for other vidya.