Will the EGS replace Steam in the future? They seem to be doing pretty well compared to all the other storefronts...

nice

I can understand disliking Steam or the whole digital market, but having anons unironically supporting the Epic Store and wanting it to become the dominant store scares me.

Steam has a bunch of garbage games. With EGS, I know the game will at least be quality. I don't see Valve surviving this decade. Best case scenario would be EPIC buying Valve

big rolls

No, they screwed up with any company that wasn't bankrolled with them and even one that was (2K Games). It's clear Epic Games is a mess right now if they can't do basic communication. Long live to DRM-free, by the way.

shills aren't true anons

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Here we go

the strongest

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I INVESTED TOO MUCH MONEY IN STEAM PLEASE NOOOOOOO

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>first number of post
Absolutely retarded, I'm using second to last for blue like a normal person

>They seem to be doing pretty well compared to all the other storefronts.
Yeah, people love when you can't buy multiple things at once, then get your account locked for attempted fraud when you try to buy them individually. The only thing people love more than that is a sale where they have to delist parts of their catalog because they didn't know how discount everything across the board.

>no new IP
Try harder, shill

It's shills user, why do you think EGS defenders went quiet on June 4th?

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>With EGS, I know the game will at least be quality
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>Best case scenario would be EPIC buying Valve

Even with Tencent bankrolling them, they could not afford Valve. EA offered Gabe something like $2-$3billion back in 2011, back when Steam was just starting to gain critical mass. And during that same lull, MS bought LinkedIn for $26.2billion despite that site hemorrhaging users. It would take some ridiculously deep pockets to take over Valve.

>The Verge
>Vox

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>the guy spending hundreds of millions to artificially prop up his store thinks he'll win
well yeah otherwise why would he waste his money?

Not really. Epic's strategy is to buy out games by smaller devs (it's a win-win for publishers). Most popular AAA games wouldn't care for a deal, and a one-time deal can't keep you afloat for more than 2 games at most, so after 1-2 years Epic will have to compete without buying out exclusives.

Saged

Yes cause I'm sure Omen of Sorrow is gonna be EGS's smash fightan game hit. youtube.com/watch?v=Qds6dVomCW8

>9
cirno'd

>they seem to be doing well

yeah how about that big sale and developer confidence

Imagine being this oblivious

Irge worst part it's when people say that they hate steam because they are monopoly and supports epic which are the ones who has been trying to be dominant store with their shady practices

EGS is lacking in consumer friendliness. Mainly, Fortnite players and mega shills for platform exclusive releases are really the only people that constitute of the consumer base for their platform. Their devotion to fucking over their customers is enough to scare many people away. Also Valve doesn't have to do anything right now, because all the millions of Steam fanboys are doing all the marketing for them by making memes and comparison charts.

It literally was, keep up retard

roland

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Sure thing, shill

Lol who gives a fuck about MUH CONSUMERS RIGHTS

This ain't 2007 anymore

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but does steam have fortnite? Nope? Git rekt fucker

>My own bubble is representative of things
Nah, people outside of Yea Forums and some other gamer forums literally don't know nor give a shit about any of this and will buy games on whatever storefront that has them. Normies outnumber you 10 to 1 and this is why epic will win

Winnie the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh,
Chubby, little cubby all stuffed with fluff.
He's Winnie the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh,
Willy, nilly, silly old bear.

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Keep trying valve shill

>the maker of the other store thinks he will win
>that's your argument

Maybe when Epic catches up to early 2000s and gets a shopping cart we can talk

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we don't deserve these platform wars on PC

So deluded, so stupid

Yeah, a game that's only relevant because Epic works their staff to death (and kills all their other in house games) to keep its breakneck update pace up.

Except the only game that EGS has that normies give a shit about is Fortnite. Metro/Division 2/Closer To The Sun are not what brings people into that ecosystem.

It'll be interesting to see what the numbers are on VtMB2, since that's going to be on all the major storefronts. I recall that the EGS sale had it on some crazy discount.

1. Why do I have to pay in dollars in the EGS if I don't live in the US?
2. I searched for Borderlands 3 today and couldn't find the game, did they delist it?

Pretty much a large portion of gamers do. Fag out some more EGS shill.

Epic still has the most popular game and the greatest video game engine.
Cope harder

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I guess the EGS shills are no longer on vacation.

This is why I prefer to stick with my PS4

China will grow larger.

All the publishers who tried to abandon steam are already returning. Bethesda is back, Bungie is back, Microsoft is back.
Meanwhile, games on EGS are bombing so hard that the publishers don't even speak about pc sales and are making games available on microsoft store.

t. seething steamcel

Why do you want to replace steam? I thought you wanted competition? Doesn't that mean you want epic to maintain a monopoly, the very thing you said steam was evil for having?

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>Meanwhile, games on EGS are bombing so hard that the publishers don't even speak about pc sales

Try again Steamtard
pcgamer.com/satisfactory-sold-over-500000-copies-on-the-epic-store-says-developer/

>Epic still has the most popular game and the greatest video game engine.
That's not true in either regard though.

>did they delist it
yes, they put cut prices without publishers or devs consent and lot of them delisted their games because of that.

>That pic
Yeah thanks for reminding me that valve killed TF2

please give me the autism

I don't think so. They're lagging behind on features and games, and while you nearly trip over how many cheap Steam keys you can find Epic is slower to release keys. Buying up exclusives and bungling their first sale didn't make them any good press, and this was after they said competition would be good for Steam.

t. chinaman who gets paid $0.02/day to post on Yea Forums

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Rolling for Froppy

>500k
lmao

I thought every game was supposed to sell 100m because of fortnite?

>says-developer
>epic went on twitter and gloated about how metro sold 250k
I have a hard time believing them, y know

EGS isn't competing with Steam, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a retard. It's competing with stores like gamersgate.com. Steam is not just a store, it's a community platform.

>500k guaranteed from Epic
>7400 actual sales
OH NONONONO

For every game you buy on EGS I'll pirate three.

500k after six months, being advertised at E3 and TGA last year and right after a big sale that Epic had to eat a loss on. Meanwhile literally who games like RoR2 and Mordhau break a million on Steam in less than half a month.

>community manager
damage control

I hope BL3 doesn't have Denuvo, it's about the only game from the Epic Store I want.

Not a fucking chance. Attention for their storefront is already slowing down. Doesn't help that they're months behind on their roadmap

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>It's competing with stores like gamersgate.com.
>still has less features than a bare-bones key reseller

Fuck m8, that just makes things even worse for EGS.

Nah. It being shilled here all the time has entrenched me to not use the EGS out of spine. One day maybe you cunts will learn.

rollino

Hey, they have a decent amount of DRM-free games, several not available anywhere else.

Epic Games seem to be pretty incompetent when it comes to programming a digital storefront, I can't wait for some exploit to be found and all the users credit card info leaks on the internet or something.

>6 months for a shopping cart

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It absolutely does. The only reason why anyone is even talking about EGS is because they bought exclusivity for a few big games like seedy businessmen. If it weren't for that, they'd be just another digital retailer in the sea of digital retailers.

Didn't that happen last year?

roller combo

>out of spine
user, are... are you OK?

Looks like your goal is set:

Steam is a gamestore

I guess the Epic shills are back on the payroll. We had a nice couple of days without these retarded threads that always start with retarded questions as if Epic could compete the Ubisoft store, yet alone Steam. Real adult gamers that buy multiple $60 games a month don't use Epic. No paying customers = No future. It's all Fortnite kiddies. Which is free.

I hate what did to PC gaming, but this whole shitshow with Epic lately is making me thankful that it WAS Valve who got to it and grew huge first.

I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords. Please, Xi Jinping, have free reign over my computer and take any data you like. Screw Steam with its shopping cart and normal fraud protections, it's not invasive enough.

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Keep in mind as valve was (very) slowing adding features on to steam, they were driving blind since nobody else tried to do what they did.

Epic can pay for timed exclusivity for any unreal game they want, but Steam just has a shit load of games to compensate that. We have Bethesda and MS games coming alongside Destiny 2 for fuck's sake, not to mention japanese/indie games that keeps coming every week. I don't see any reason to worry about Valve other then them making a new fucking game that's not GaaS bullshit..

6 months*

>*may be longer as new games being added to the store pushes updates and the timeline back several weeks

This is too dangerous to roll on. Oh fuck...

Let's do this
>Epic still doesn't have a shopping cart

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I don't really have an opinion either way but I like how EGS gives me free games.

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Not exactly, Steam isn't just going to fuck off but EGS will pose an immense threat to them meaning that Valve is going to have to step their game up. Which is good as steam has been getting more and more shit in the last 5 or so years with worse sales etc.

invis pls

why are you fags complaining about shopping carts as if you would buy more than one thing on the Epic Store to begin with

Because its literally one of the most essential things for any online store to have. Amazon in the fucking 90's had a cart.

How has steam been getting worse? It's literally been getting free updates and features I didn't know i'd use but that fucking universal controller support is fucking amazing

rolle

>but EGS will pose an immense threat

The effort by Epic has been fucking laughable. They still don't have a damned shopping cart or cloud save functionality in their client, all games have to be added manually to the store (which means they are limited in how many they can add at a time), and managed to fuck up their first big sale and piss off publishers. They only advantage they have is their fuck-you money from Fortnite to flaunt around

R-Roll

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Honestly, thats the most baffling thing to me about Epic. They're literally hitting all of the same pitfalls that early Steam did. Especially Gabe's whole "Don't lie to the internet" thing.

>EGS will pose an immense threat to them

That got shot down when the "epic mega sale" caused a number of games to be pulled from their store.

please be white

People make fun of Epic's lack of a shopping cart because it's the most basic feature on the VERY LONG list of features that Epic doesn't have.

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>They seem to be doing pretty well
I mean, if I pay for lots of exlusive games i can make a successfully DRM too

Lacking a basic function every other online store has had since forever is fucking funny is why.

lets see

Steam sales are absolutely laughable nowadays. And most of the updates are small thing's they should have added 3 years prior.
I know that you are about 16 and have only had steam for 3 years but do you have any idea how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?

So once Epic has all the features that Steam does (cloud saves, universal controller, a SHOPPING CART), would you buy the games after the free game period runs out or will you just boycott them?

If Epic has my Japanese games at a very low price I might as well just get it from there.

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>I recall that the EGS sale had it on some crazy discount.
I wasn't really paying attention, but any sales numbers they get from pricing their games at a loss are garbage. You can't do a proper comparison when you're selling products below MSRP and retail standard solely to inflate your sales figures. If the publisher reduces the price (which is what happens during Steam sales, for example), that means the price is reduced across the board for every retailer on equal footing. Epic just eating a loss to wave their micro-penis around is yet another attempt to fool and scam people.

>but do you have any idea how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?
Why are we comparing shit from 2004? Epic has fuck you money, it should have the biggest amount of features it can with no need to buy timed exclusivity.

>I know that you are about 16 and have only had steam for 3 years but do you have any idea how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?

What relevance does steam of 2004 have in regards to wiether or not I should use it now?

>how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?

What does this have to do at all with what that user said? If you're trying to do some retarded pivot and defend the shittiness of the EGS because Steam in 2003 wasn't great either than you need to realize that standards change

Epic literally couldn't even do their own sale right without a myriad of major problems surrounding it. How are they a bigger company than valve yet make such fucking amateur mistakes is astounding.

I'm not using it for the same reason I don't use Origin and wouldn't touch Bethesda's launcher if it took off, I already use 3, I'm not usign anymore.

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I'd rather a company not hold power over the most popular game engine, most popular game, AND the most popular storefront. If you want a fucking monopoly in the games industry there it would be

>havent seen any EGS vs Steam threads after the dumpster fire that was the EGS sale
>some people start pointing it out in some threads
>they starting again

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>EGS will pose an immense threat
t. Timmy Tencent
What? Are you going to try to challenge Gabe to pistols at dawn?

>They seem to be doing pretty well compared to all the other storefronts.
Have they?
It's one thing to win over devs for exclusive deals with lucrative promises.
It's another thing to win over customers willing to spend money on the store. When you bring a product to market, you must ask the question: "what do I offer my customers that the competition doesn't?"
EGS offers nothing for the customer that is of value. Exclusives aren't a viable argument, because there is no platform exclusive which cannot be pirated.
EGS will be kept alive by the chinks at tencent for a few years, but it will not be able to provide true competition for steam. If anything their presence in the market is serving to remind people that GOG exists as a viable platform which DOES offer the customers something steam doesn't: a DRM free experience.

The PC Gamer show sponsored by the Epic Games Store is on Monday. Get ready for some maximum shilling

of all the things you could be doing you are shit posting / shilling / defending a worthless product and bad mouthing a service that has been the pinnacle of PC gaming purchasing for quite some time. Imagine what else you could have been doing with your time.

>I have the feeling that Epic will announce more dev acquisitions during the upcoming pc gaming show

I wonder how hard they're gonna be booed

>popular game engine
Source
>most popular game
DOTA2
>most popular storefront
Steam

Source was never fucking close to being a popular game engine

Okay, fine.

So guys, Let's guess what games will be annouced as Epic exclusive at this E3.

>no japanese games
>no microsoft games
>no bethesda games

I don't even know at this point.

user its either shills who are getting paid to pretend to like the store, (you) farmers who don't actually care and just want attention, trannies who worship anything that caves into some of their demands, and contrarians who worship anything that is hated.

>If anything their presence in the market is serving to remind people that GOG exists as a viable platform which DOES offer the customers something steam doesn't: a DRM free experience.
GOG barely makes any profits and is not directly competing against Steam, let's not kid ourselves. No major developer would have their recent games DRM-free since everyone and all the petty anons here will shove their mutilated genitals up your face saying they pirate it.

Epic games store will be irrelevant in less than a year.

>quality games on epic
>most of it is literal who indie crap with only one or two decent games that are surpassed by other games on steam
You shills needs to get better scripts

>over 500k in three months
>meanwhile ROR2 sold 1mil copies in a month

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Source is most certainly not the most popular game engine. DOTA 2 is certainly not the most popular game.

I'm not touching any shit that Epic has a part in.

>Cloud saves
They pushed that back like how many times already
reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/bvh9x8/epic_games_misses_roadmap_goals_for_the_second/
newstrail.com/epic-games-will-have-cloud-services-starting-from-february/

Wish I could watch it but I have to be with my family.

Not him but you better watch out and have a good calcium intake, I think the skeleton inside him finally had enough of being a pawn and took over, who knows when it's gonna come for your bone structure

You forgot to consider that fact that the store has existed for 6 months and a shopping cart is months (or more) away. They're literally taking over a year to do something that wouldn't take me 6 months to do even though I'd have to learn coding from scratch to do it.

last thing I bought from them was Unreal Tournament 3. Have not seen anything interesting by them since then.

How the fuck are you supposed to get 0 ever?

>DOTA 2 is certainly not the most popular game
Oh come the fuck on, it always has the top number players on Steam and is played by all the asians and f2p faggots. Everyone I met played or still plays Dota 2

God, why would anyone ever pick Ginger over Mary Ann? I just don't get it.

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Here's your new EGS exclusive bro, and don't forget that Epic only accepts the highest quality games onto their service
youtube.com/watch?v=gHGWKoRv2SI

What I'm saying is that if you asked a crowd of PC gamers in '04 whether or not steam would succeed they would tell you no. Lot's of thing's have rough launches then go on to be successful.

Grandpa fags, shouldn't you be sleeping?

This, beyond anything else, is what convinces me that these people are actual shills. The pro-Epic posting stopped long enough for everyone to notice. That doesn't happen when it's just regular people expressing their actual opinions.

I think you're underestimating how much GOG pulls in.
They're selling an info product.
They have limited overhead and have a specific demographic in mind. It may not bring in the most cash, but it's still viable.
GOG will outlast EGS, even if they only take a sliver of the market share.

>all the petty anons here will shove their mutilated genitals up your face saying they pirate it.
They'd do that anyways. Did you miss the recent Sims 4 threads with anons actively shitting the sale as cynical attempt to grab people's metadata through Origin?

>all the petty anons here will shove their mutilated genitals up your face saying they pirate it.
I hate that I can't have a comfy GOG.com thread without those fucking posts.

Not just replacing Steam, but the Chinese will own all aspects of every industry. It's not a matter of if, but when.

>Lot's of thing's have rough launches then go on to be successful.

The EGS launched in a fucking worse state than Origin did at launch, and has made almost no improvements since then

I'm surprised nobody has tried to reboot Gilligan's Island. With all the weird shit that went down on the island I could see it working similar to what Dr. Who was when it was brought back in the mid 2000s, kind of a weird campy monster-of-the-week kind of thing.

Because informed ugliness. It's like how Velma Dinkley is supposed to be this ugly bookish dyke compared to Daphne's ginger radiance, yet Velma still looks better in a frumpy sweater than Daphne ever does in any outfit.

>It has the most number of player's on steam.
Yeah, that's not worth much looking at LoL launcher, Fortnite on EGS and Minecraft being well, Minecraft

Justin Wong said it's a good game

Doesn't that pedophile say that about every game though?

PC gamers in '04 were too busy playing games to respond. That was the nearing the end of the last good era for PC exclusives. You had indies like cave story, you had top tier MMOs, a new RTS game was coming out every other week, arena shooters were booming, it was a great time to be a live.

It's a PR disaster, Chang. Devs have to openly state they're not on the store exclusively in order to avoid backlash. Compare with how laissez-faire Snapshot and other devs were with their games on Epic.

I don't think they'll be able to top that Burnout knock-off.
>looks and plays like it's from 2007
>no soundtrack, have to use Spotify

i want a cute one pls

He says it until he stops making top 8 at majors, at which point he moves on to the next game to shill.

The only thing that could get me to consider Epic's store is if they backtracked on their lewd nip games policy.
IDGAF about cloud saves, a universal controller, or a shopping cart.
I just don't like the idea of downloading yet another game launcher platform.
You have no idea how pissed I was when I bought Blood Dragon only to find out that those shylocks at ubisoft required me to download uplay. The game was good, I'll grant them that, but I've refused to purchase another ubisoft game since then.
Steam is more than enough bloat on my system as is.

I'm not sure it would work in today's cinematic style (moody light filtering and ambient music, etc). For example, Blazing Saddles was from around the same era. It worked without offending anyone because it didn't have that moody cinematography. If they added that to Blazing Saddles, there'd be riots on every corner of the internet. The lack of moody ambience keeps things light and fluffy and makes sure it doesn't get too serious. But you just can't use that style in 2019 because it's dated.

Show me 5!

i hate this weeaboo shit, but I hate chinks even worse. rollan

Nigga just wait until the chinks falling into their next warring states period.
It'll happen sooner rather than later.

>6 months
It used to be just that, but now its much further away, by this point it might not even come. Imagine shilling for a store where a shopping cart isn't even guaranteed.

EGS will announced the acquisition of studios like yatch club games and or re-logic

>E3 2018
>Sony wins baybeh!
>E3 2019
>EGS WINS BAYBEH!

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You bitch now. Then tomorrow night you'll be standing outside a liquor store looking nervous and offering my $50 to buy you a bottle of Vodka.

If you're not, then you need to fucking go outside and make some friends and have some fun before doing it lands you in jail.

Fucking nice.

There is a reason the steam buttfuck gif was made.

GIVE 6

You mean back in the early to mid 2000s when Steam was essentially the only PC storefront/platform and there were no standards on how they should operate? There's zero excuse for Epic fucking up this hard with over a decade of history of Steam's development to look back on

>Steam only has garbage games
>Epic is so good they'll buy Valve

NOW THATS WHAT I CALL A RETARDED DOUBLE WHAMMY .

AHHHH ROLL

Because if epic insists to keep buying games, its could at the very least make sure you can buy those games in one go rather then run the risk of punishing for giving them money to fast. Also as others have stated, its one of the most simple things you could add to an online store, I even did for a basic high school programming class. If high school students can code in that feature, they have no excuse for not having it.

>literally giving your money to the gooks by buying on EGS

No, Stadia will

Yeah try selling a shit product and justify it being shit by saying that the product your trying to compete with was shit a decade ago. I highly doubt your would get that many customers especially when your product is laughably inferior to other available products.

relll

Let's do this

It took valve 15 years for refunds

it will most likely be some literal who indie game and maybe one or two notable titles.

I'm scared that Evil Genius 2 will be an EGS-exclusive

And once they implemented it, people liked them more. Amazing how user features like a fucking shopping cart increase public opinion

R o l l

And apparently EGS is still struggling with them.

If Timmy's paid for your copy, just give it a pirate.

>Yatch Club needing EGS

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>He doesnt know

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Roll.

who

the other way around

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The Sexual Harassing Panda

Wasn't this AFTER they sold the game for a pittance during the sale? How come before the sale they were super quiet?

>Compare steam 2004 with EGS 2019
>15 years
>EGS still dont proper features

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We should probably just let old man gaben rest and live a quiet life. He did some good things during his lifetime, but hes getting old, and its not fair to shit on him just because the times are changing. I have to imagine development for a monster company isnt even fun anymore.

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>I know that you are about 16 and have only had steam for 3 years but do you have any idea how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?
>STOP JUDGING EPIC, THEY MIGHT BE GOOD IN 10 YEARS
>but also HAHAHA LOOK AT HOW SHIT STEAM WAS 15 YEARS AGO, STEAM DESERVES TO FAIL

time to test my luck

show me the way.

>your standard is a 15 year older storefront state that would be nowadays obsolete
EGS shills are so retarded.

>be first company to make a tablet (microsoft, 2001 is one of them, there are others before im sure)
>second company makes tablet but advertises the shit out of it (apple)
apple shills: IT TOOK MICROSOFT 20 YEARS TO MAKE THE TABLET

I'll just put her in body paint.

up yours, nigger

thanks for the laugh user

Imagine Huawei coming out with a new phone with less features than all their competitors.
Their response?
>Remember how bad the phones were when they came out?

It still amazes me how shills think comparing epic to when steam first launched somehow make epic look good.

5 or death

fuck yeah

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Which is funny because fucking 90s websites I remember having shopping carts, and this shit predates Windows 98.

Have fun missing out shitload of games that uses unreal engine then

wowzers

>but do you have any idea how fucking shit steam was when it first came out?
do you have any idea how shitty cars were in the 1910s? they were barbies as fuck, it was basically 4 wheels, a combustion engine, and a steering wheel. if you were to manufacture such a car in 2019 with all the improvements we made in car building, why would any sane person want to settle for a barebones product? you could scream "BUT CARS IN THE 1910s WERE SHITTY TOO BECAUSE IT WAS THE BEGINNING!!!!!" all you want, you have no excuse to put out a product inferior in quality to the competition

But she brought him a pie later, so it was okay. As long as he didn't tell anyone about.

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that's the breaks in a free market
I don't like ebin gay store because it's anti-consumer. that hasn't stopped the walmarts and pfizers of the world

>they were barbies
sorry for the phoneposting, I meant "barebones"

>re-logic

OH NO NO NO

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Based roller poster.

It's their current spiel, they'll add a new one eventually which would probably make less sense.

No amount of bribes are gonna bring someone over to egs if they know they can make more than Tim can afford to offer just not locking themselves to the most hated platform on the market. That's why the quality of egs exclusives has steadily gone down.

Wouldn't it be funny if the PC gaming show has a shit ton of big games made exclusive but only for 6 months, then come the steam releases they're all fighting with each other and the earlier games that were exclusive for a year?

If you insist.

>steam it's outdated as fuck
What does the competition have that Steam doesn't, Chink?

>terraria 2 will be put on steam twice just to dab on EGS
based as fuck

Yes Epic Games store is doing so well Steam did absolutely nothing other than carry on as usual and EGS shot it self in the foot anyway. Fucking Chinese fire drill

No. Both will continue to exist. Anyone who takes either side is a shill faggot

rolling for autistic grill w kids

based

:(

>smug little rat faced sellout to china thinks his store will win
Why didn't you tell me sooner, I'll get right on using their shitty featureless store.

This is fucking retarded because the first number will still be 4 for a long fucking time.

>Epic
>japanese games

I bet most of that is sale's back guarantee, and the fact that it wasn't epic themselves who said it but rather the dev after epic appeased them with the numbers just reaffirms it for me.

What would be funniest would be if egs was counting on a bunch of exclusivity deals that fell through because of the botched sale and they have nothing of worth.

>0 days of epicshills seething about steam

But Epic only allows EPIC Western games like Heavy Rain.

I can only imagine the only reason EGS can't into shopping carts is because they either
1. Do not have a database of games, prices, ect and are literally putting all this info on the product page directly (believe it or not, but there are distributions out there that do not have a database of the products they sell or the stock amount they have).
2. Don't have anyone who can actually program a backend to tally up the products and prices.

T. Someone who had to work with opencart for some business that ran out of money.

The Epic Store was probably slapped together in an afternoon by some guy on lunch break, who knows what other problems the store has.

It won't but steam was getting fat and lazy on their throne. They need competition to stay fit. So many of the problems with steam lately can be boiled down to "they just don't care enough to bother monitoring or maintaining their shit."

Give them someone who is able to buy rights to temporary exclusives and then create a competing market. Some people will prefer it, many more will use both, I'll just be happy if it makes steam a little better.

What exactly is your issue with steam at the moment?

BAWWWW NO HALF RIFE THREE AND NO REFT FOR DEAD THREE, I HOPE XI XINPING DESTROYS STEAM

>Steam shouldn't cater to anyone
>Except me.
That's the problem. There is literally no better social-gaming and storefront service for PC games, but retards and ideologues who wish their needs are cater to as they're used to on heavily curated platforms like consoles or battle.net feel the need to shit on Steam because they've always had a hands-off approach.

This.

All the kids and normies playing fortnite will have epic games open more often than steam if they even have it. You think they give a shit? They'll see ads for sales and the "weekly free game" they have going on and they'll start collecting games. What do they need steam for? Their only other major games are through other launchers and they can chat easier in discord. Steam's irrelevant to them.

Someone out there played LoL exclusively in high school on a shitty laptop, moved on to Overwatch and battle royale games, and never once installed steam or had a need to.

Well as an indiedev let me tell you what the problem with Steam is. You see, Gabe needs to market my game on the head page. You'll like my game, it's a mario platforming clone where you bounce on these goomba-i mean misogynazis. you probably would've heard it by now if it weren't for that pesky steam review aggregation

Fortnite kids aren't buying other games. A fucking tiny fraction of them are even taking advantage of the free games they're offering

Didn't Steam try by appealing to hardcore DOTA 2 and LOL players and fail because it turns out people who play freemium games exclusively don't actually buy games?

>thinking normies are interested in indie games
At best the typical zoomer will be interested in BL3 but even then its not nearly as large as the fortnite crowd, and the moment zoom zoom gets bored of fortnite he will forget about epic.

That's because like 90% of fortnitekids play on consoles or phones. The majority of Epic's "goldmine" doesn't so much as glance at egs or know it even exists.

>Someone out there played LoL exclusively in high school on a shitty laptop, moved on to Overwatch and battle royale games, and never once installed steam or had a need to
Except in that case it doesn't matter what platform they are on, they don't buy games.

The actual issue based on the Kotaku issue is that they have everyone working on Fortnite 80 hours a week to shit out enough content to keep Zoomers hooked. At best one guy works on it a few hours a week and that's to add a game as Sergay says they have to manually do that.

you done jerking each other off? I don't give a fuck about that shit. Steam's gotten lazy is all I said. They need a fucking wake up call. I don't care about your petty hateboner for epic games right now, it's just a Yea Forums fad you'll get over for something new to be overly upset and misinformed about. I've seen that enough here over the years.

Steam hasn't been great at a lot of shit they implement in the last decade almost, they don't curate their shit for the same clutter that fills up mobile game stores with stolen assets etc. All the problems are minor nitpicks like that.

Like I said, they're lazy and fat on the throne. They're fine there, but they're out of shape. Doesn't matter. This drama here will dry up soon enough and have no impact on anyone because kids playing fortnite don't care.

>Someone out there played LoL exclusively in high school on a shitty laptop, moved on to Overwatch and battle royale games, and never once installed steam or had a need to.
Thanks for revealing yourself as an exclusively trend-hopping normie fag who cannot develop taste of his own. You are not the people who generate revenue for storefronts, anyway, you just give microtransaction bucks to companies directly through their freemium games.

>Steam's gotten lazy is all I said
How so?

No, tencent still owns almost half the shares and they still used anti consumer means to get ahead.

Normies are interested in the same universal words that grab everyone's attention:
>SALE 75% OFF
and
>FREE GAMES

Not anymore, no. If they didn't pull that exclusive 3rd party game bullshit then sure.

>they don't curate their shit for the same clutter that fills up mobile game stores with stolen assets etc. All the problems are minor nitpicks like that.
You literally contradict yourself.
>This drama here will dry up soon enough and have no impact on anyone because kids playing fortnite don't care.
Exactly, fortnite kids don't give a shit about the EGS, since most of them play on console or mobile anyway. What epic is doing is hurting the PC gaming market for people who actually give a shit.

never cuz chink malware and too late - I have too big library on my steam account. My gog account is growing as well.

>still can't give a good reason beyond "steam being lazy"
And the lack of curation is because the indie devs demanded it, why aren't you complaining about them?

Hahahahha

You say that, but of the 200 million fortnite players or whatever the number is, only like 1 million people grabed subnautica when it was free

Pardon me, I meant to say you defeat your own argument.

They didn't buy games in high school and college because they had no money. They do now because they have entered the workforce and can afford it. That's the usual cycle. Most older people here had a single game like that they played online all throughout their school time because they didn't have money for new games, but then they moved on to buying shit they don't even play on steam sales later on when they had money just because of a sale.

When a games store's priority for fucking CARTS is 6+ months down the line still, and gifting support is still a TBA, it's fucked.

Mom and pop online stores have a fucking shopping cart.

Lewd Japanese games in english are the only thing that could get me to use Epic and as it is now, even regular ass normie JRPGs are too "toxic and problematic" for Epic, let alone the deep, dark weebshit.

>Will the EGS replace Steam in the future?
no, it is objectively the worst out of all current digital stores not to mention the awful PR they currently have. Steam doesn't have to do anything EGS is killing itself

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>doing well
>data breaches immediately
>canceled their store sale and pissed off developers
>still chinese
that's a good one

I gave some. What the fuck are you expecting, a deep and compelling exposition about dark and shady business practices? Or are you just new enough to steam that all that shit was normal to you?

Guys, guys, what will happen if Trump decide Tencent is a treat to national security? Will Epic along wih Fortnite be banned?

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Jesus Christ, are Americans poor or something? I'm fucking Asian and I bought my own games since I was in fucking high school.

>Steam's gotten lazy
how? by not making half life 3?

You seem to be under the impression that despite being relatively new, the epic games store is well known and not something that people are only just now becoming aware of.

>Most older people here had a single game like that they played online all throughout their school time
Fucking what? I had fucking dial up when I was going through school, I didn't have some shitty online game that took up all my time.

Except this has been a problems since forever. Back during the Greenlight days, devs had all sorts of shitty practices to get their games approved on Greenlight like giving away free shit games for votes. I honestly can't think of a solution, either way the indie devs bitch.

You seem to be taking those goal posts and moving them pretty far away from your original argument

They will probably both always coexist. Epic was smart to launch the store on the success of fortnite. A lot of kids were introduced ot gaming because of fortnite. Now if a new game catches their eye they will immediately look for it on the Epic Store.

I didn't defeat my own argument and you're extrapolating the "they're dangerous to the pc market" from the drama here mixed with a slippery slope.

Fuck that noise.

Too bad Epic has literally given no incentive for me to give a shit about using EGS but crocodile tears for the developers they overwork to death for 1 baby sitting game.

You literally said nothing other than "steam being lazy" and "cluttered store", none of which are true.
For a lazy content company, they sure have the most feature-complete and useful client of all available competing storefronts on PC; and for their clutter, if you spend half a minute of your time and a couple of neurons you'd now that steam has excellent filtering features and if that wasn't enough, community forums and curators can do you as solid as well as the Discovery Queue. Being too stupid to use Steam's features is no justification for calling them lazy

>It's ok that EGS is lacking features! Steam launched in a barebones state as well!

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Nice

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God I hope so.

>YES HERRO PREASE
>GWAILO
>U BUY
>PROMISS NO CLEDIT CARD STEAR
>BUY TOO MUCH? U DING DONG BANNU
>RINE END

>this has been a problem since forever
This has been a problem for about 6-7 years, one that started slowly, incrementally, as if the company were losing their ability to care slowly over time.

So like I said, you're new enough that it's normal to you. People have been complaining about this shit with steam for years. The makers of fortnite trying to compete with the status quo and fucking up at it aren't the only problems out there. They're just the new one Yea Forums is uselessly upset at.

Copyright and exclusivity makes this not a free market by default retard

If you want to sell a car you don't try competing with GM with a Horse and wagon

The people who say this fail to account for the fact Steam had no one to show them how to do it. Epic is missing basic-ass functionality.

most people in their 30s who were in high school and college in the 2000's and played mmos or various arena shooters online.

If you're old enough that in college you had dial up then you're an outlier when talking about the demographics here.

I've been using the store since 2011 and I have never been bothered by it at all, because unlike the mouth-breathing retards that follow Jim Sterling or the so called "games journalists" I actually have a brain and can filter the store to find what I want or shit I may be interested in. Good games always stand out and derivative pathetic trash always gets buried.

God I miss Soldat.

Do they have a cart yet?

You seem to be under the impression this is not only a formal debate but also that I had something to move the goalposts for. What the fuck do you think we're talking about here? My original post was that people don't give a shit about this drama outside of Yea Forums's bubble so none of this discourse will have any affect on anything and there are far more people out there than in here who don't give a goddamn about it.

I'm not planting a flag and holding my ground, I'm specifically saying that's a stupid thing to do and don't care to. Goatposts are for if we're playing a game you will score in. I'm booing you from the stands.

I don't think you know what crocodile tears means.

You play the "it's just another store, who gives a shit, you should't give a shit" argument as if it means anything. People care, people should care. As a consumer, you should care when your options are taken out by a greedy corporation looking to build their own empire using blatantly anti-consumer practices. You come off as someone who so easily bends over to take the corporate cock regardless of your own principles or resolutions.
Sorry I'm not as forgiving as you are, but do not for a single second think that I can be like you are, because I wont.

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That's great, but unlike the mouth breathers here I can ignore the shit they're complaining about epic games for, and I'll take a free game sure. And they have a sale on something I want at a conveinant time. So I have no problem shopping at target instead of walmart every now and then, despite all the complaints about how exploitative and bad for the economy they are.

What I'm saying is the drama here is not really any more relevant to me or important than jim sterling's complaints about the steam store. Sure in the grand scheme of things it's bad for the gaming market, but why do you care about this and not other problems in the gaming market that sucker you in? Oh because you've always had steam and can't say anything bad about it but you'll jump at the latest drama over any other company out there.

>tfw Jim tried to shill for Epic and made so much of an ass out of himself he had to go on full damage control for a month

>Oh because you've always had steam and can't say anything bad
>GOOD SERVICE BAD
>but you'll jump at the latest drama over any other company out there
>BAD SERVICE GOOD

Yea Forums isn't people. "as a consumer" yeah you don't fucking care. No one cares about shit steam does because they're steam. I don't care that they don't care, I find it funny though that they care so much when one newer company is "bad for consumers" but will happily ignore all the times other companies are bad, worse, or just more regularly bad in general. Steam being bigger means any small thing they do has far more influence, shouldn't their curation problems have destroyed everything by now?

I'm saying you care, but pointlessly, and selectively, and you follow dumb fads for drama here. I don't care. So my argument could be a long tangent and it doesn't matter.

Yeah none of that is what I said but if you have to reduce shit to grok speak to understand it then I won't give you trouble.

You literally said nothing. For what you say to have any worth it would require Steam and Valve to have produced a store that is objectively worse than what their competition has come up with. That is demonstratively not the case. Epic has brought nothing good for anyone, quite the opposite by trying to steer the market into inconvenient bullshit for everyone.
I do care, where did I say I do not care about other problems? We are discussing the Epic store in this thread, go on a different thread for shit like microtransactions or day one dlc. I do care about that, and I complain about it, but that does not pertain to THIS particular discussion, now does it? I do not accuse people of moving goalposts, but what you say sounds an awful lot like it.

Seriously what will epic do next
>"No UE4 games one steam"
thats all they can do now, devs are literally laughing at EGS, even devs on their platform like Randy Pitchford throwing shade at EGS for their massive sale fuck up.

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How many were guaranteed purchase numbers by epic? Some? None?

Concurrent user stats would help know how well it’s doing.
Oh wait.
That’s a feature.
Epic doesn’t like features.

No one outside of Steam has concurrent numbers available for the public cause that way they cannot be called out for bullshit.

It's such a great feature for consumers, you get to see which games have a playerbase and which ones are dead, therefore which ones you should invest time/money into.
Explains why publishers hate it.

Maybe.
Probably not.
Tim sweeney is too much of a cunt for me to feel happy about sending money their way.
Every time I get close to installing it and having a look I get a mental picture of that smug, smiling, toad looking fucker and decide to wait.

Has Randy ever said shit about Epic recently? Some time ago he was sucking chink cock, after the delisting debacle I have yet to see him say anything.

Not that I care, I wish him to fucking die and go bankrupt so Duke can finally rest in worthy hands.

Trying to make all Unreal Engine-using games EGS exclusive is their nuclear option that they'll only use if Fortnite falters.

I have yet to see a SINGLE fucking reason why using a such a bare fucking bones store.
And for a store who is fighting “a monopoly” it’s sure fighting to become one at that. If they really were that good, they would just give ME incentives to buy from them the same game that’s on GOG and Steam, which they have none because everything about it is a pathetic joke.

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Wont ever see it on epic.
It’s a store for publishers first.
Customers get the mushroom treatment.
Kept in the dark, fed shit and ignored until it’s time to harvest

They don't even want Japanese devs to be a part of their weird little clique that wants to turn video games into a push market instead of a pull market

Fortnite wont just fall that quickly in popularity. It could take even years for it to not be as reliably profitable. And making UE games exclusives would just mean an actual fucking shitstorm in every way imaginable.

>Fortnite wont just fall that quickly in popularity. It could take even years for it to not be as reliably profitable.
I hate that but it's true. LoL is a literally decade-old game and it's still fighting for number 1 spot despite being PC only. But damn do I wish another fad comes along quickly and takes all the console kids away from Fortnite.

>And making UE games exclusives would just mean an actual fucking shitstorm in every way imaginable.

Exactly, that's why it's the nuclear option. Fortnite probably won't die overnight, but it's already starting to lose popularity among a lot of big-name streamers, and the fanbase is primarily mobile users, notorious for their mercurial tastes. I wouldn't be surprised if Tim seriously considers UE exclusivity within 3 years.

ITT: chink shills everywhere

kick the chair under you hard,stubby

in case you haven't notice google and apple will win the video game war

more like valve drones everywhere

>but does steam have fortnite? Nope
And that's a good thing. No, really. Fortnite is zoomer cancer. Go die somewhere you zoomer fuck before you suffer an accident.

are you retarded user?SORRY i even asked i forgot i was in Yea Forums

Refunds were always available on a case by case basis. But then it didn't matter as much because Valve used to curate their store and give a fuck what they sold, so who knows?

inshallah user,i bought division 2 for 18$

nice comeback timmy tencent

>the owner of the storefront says his storefront will win
>believing this

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i dont believe them, if this is true tim sweeney or sergey would have bragged about it on twitter. they were proud of wwz selling over 250k copies only

I think the same. They would've been the first to show it off on twatter, but they didn't. I bet it was their sales back guarantee kicking in and they sold it to the devs to make them think their game was that successful, when in reality only a handful of real purchases were made.

>tfw trying to come up with parody lyrics for "Be Prepard" where Tim Sweeny is Scar, the Hyenas are devs who sold out to EGS and they're plotting to overthrow steam instead of Mufasa but too dumb and unfunny to come up with good ones

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It’s young zoomers who are literally overwhelmed by the amount of games on steam and don’t like it as a result

>I'm surprised nobody has tried to reboot Gilligan's Island.
Because Lost was close enough.

give me something good

Avoiding that kind of risk is one reason big publishers are all making their own engine for all their games.