PLEASE TALK ABOUT MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

The future of PORN

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>ricky bobby for sony
Oh I am laffin

>8 mar to 25 mar
Now post the stats from this month

A single small line would make this 100 times better

There it says June 5th user.

What line?

I HOPE WHO EVER BUYS THIS THEY EAT YOUR DATA UP FAST

MUAAAAAAAAA

>having data caps
Imagine being this cucked

OnLive MK2

you don't own any games unless you make them yourself
what you own is a license to use the software.

>consumes your entire monthly allocation of bandwidth the ISP provides
>ISP now begins charging you overage fee for every few gigs extra jewgle stadia voraciously consumes
>one day google's algorithms parse that you expressed the WRONG OPINION into Google's social credit services and terminates your account
the future is so bright

Honestly, it has a good chance of taking off and eventually ruining gaming as a whole. Why?

>because adult gamers are too autistic to do anything
>younger (teen) gamers think everything is a joke and something to meme about.

Instead of "doing" anything about it we just sit comfortably in our echo chamber and post amine we jerk off to.

Lifeline, the line that give life.

It's literally designed for no one.

Oh yes it is. It's designed for Joe Six Pack to play Call of Duty and Madden on. It's designed for the soccer mom to play SIMS on. It's designed for the normie NPCs that consume what ever big corporations tell them to consume.

Until having flawless internet is anything more than a pipe dream it'll remain a gimmick for investors, who know nothing about the topic other than spotify and netflix worked, to get excited at.

I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna say the L word

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I'm waiting for the duckduckgo console.

How long will it last?
killedbygoogle.com/

You think so? Wrong. Here's what going to happen. Normies will pay for the subscription and use it like they use their Planet Fitness membership (once in a blue moon). You'll have say..... 1000 memberships with maybe 100 people actually using it on a regular basis... but they're still collecting the member fees for all 1000 memberships. Google will tout this as a success which will prompt other greedy companies to jump on board. Devs and publishers will start their own "streaming" services to cash in. Steam/Xbox Store/PS store... will be in jeopardy. Not because they're incapable of hosting downloadable games, but why do that when you can subscribe their services and pay 100 times more than you would for a game over the course of time.

>not waiting for the Japanese exclusive Yahoo! console

ISP's are already planning on some sort of gamer fast lane package. I wouldn't be surprised if it now included a unlimited data. USA is fucked.

They tried this a few years back with Onlive or whetever it was called. Everybody said the same shit as now, shit latency, shit compression. nobody gave a fuck despite all the magazines shilling for it.

still gets me everytime

I don't (they) care. Too busy posting
>best girl
>blocks your path
>was he wrong
to actually realize how destructive this is to gaming.

>ouya
Are they ever going to learn?

I don't get it, what relevance does he have to Sony?

>people think this will actually take off
The only place I could possibly see this taking off in is Japan because they have actually good internet infrastructure unlike somewhere like the US, where a large majority of purchases for this thing would mostly come from

Buy the dip!

PS3 bundle at launch included a copy of Talladega Nights for some reason. Shit was basically just an oversized blu-ray player at the start

You own a license that cannot be revoked that easily, despite what people want you to believe. You could literally download your whole Steam library right now, unplug the ethernet from your PC and stay offline until the day you die. The only games that will stop working are games with very aggressive third party DRM, even Denuvo doesn't require you to go online after the initial authorization I believe.

This is truth.

What's going to happen is Stevia... Strada... whatever the fuck it's called goes belly up and you've not only bought into the meme, but bought 10 games (at $60 a piece)? You think Google is just going to refund you your $600?

Is there anything /biz/ WOULDN'T buy the dip from?

it will become huge and overtake consoles. screencap this

When journalists, the fucking grade A shills that are games journalists, are already asking "When's Stadia gonna shut down?", You know faith is at an all time low.

A year if that.

>shitty american internet
>playing AAA games with any reasonable quality
lol no.
If we had fiber then yeah but america will never get fiber.

Interesting, thanks. Is that really a well-known fact though?

I have fiber and I live in a rust belt city ghetto. Stop living on the farm even montana has fiber now

>Values for this point have partial (incomplete) data available
Well done, you proved nothing.

What astounds me is that the autists of Yea Forums are so incomprehensibly stupid that they think just because a product doesn't appeal to THEM, that must mean it will appeal to NO ONE, because there can't POSSIBLY be casual gamers out there, who would see the appeal in just paying £9 a month for access to a couple of games they like the look of, rather than spending £200 - £400 for a console, or even more for a gaming PC.

What makes these idiots even MORE stupid is that they have not seen that Google is not the only company investing heavily into cloud gaming. Microsoft is with xCloud as well. And Sony has PlayStation Now, which they may well be looking to expand, given their recent partnership announcement with Microsoft.

Dumbfuckery is not in short supply on this board, it would seem.

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>Americans invented the internet
>have the worst internet of out of every 1st world country
How is this even possible?

No thanks, I'd rather live on a farm than in niggertopia

>at the start

Country's too fucking big and all the ISPs are awful

>Come up with something first and implement it on a large scale
>Other places have time to refine the idea/learn from initial implementation to get a better product a few years later
Gee it's almost like we beta test everything we gave the rest of the world

It's an old Yea Forums meme to associate Talladega Nights with PS3. And say that it's the best PS3 game (because PS3 HAS NO GAMES)

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I'd prefer to own my games and not let some scummy conmen try to lay claim to them in legalese.

So sorry, but there's no place for you in the future.

Greed. The average American lives in a selfish, self-absorbed bubble, where they only "care" when shit actually affects them directly. This is a country of drones and NPCs that are programmed to believe and do whatever they're told through propaganda. Corporations and money are king and rule the status quo. How else do you explain the evolution of pop-culture? Take music for example. Just in the past couple of decades we went from... well... music is subjective so I'll say Megadeth and Nirvana to the likes of Six9 or what that faggot calls himself. The evolution of gaming is no different.

But people that have unlimited data caps with 50mbps usually can buy a console easily and by having to buy the games individually the casual market that they could have from people who just wanting to try something...just because this probably will work in the future it doesn't mean that it works in the current system
besides most people only complain because google is a trendy punchbag today, they probably don't even care about the system

ISPs bribe government to permit them their monopolies since the companies have made tacit agreements to divvy the country up between themselves and don't compete in parts that aren't their piece of the pie. AT&T and cable companies like using the local government to bludgeon small-scale competitors that try to pop up.
plus we're, yknow, a massive fucking country. Like sure the Koreans have a few super-wired cities and then the rest of them live out in the rice paddies as impoverished commie farmers

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

In this case, that house is made up of competitors all trying to sabotage the other isps.

OUYA 2.0 BABY

No Fortnite
No buy

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You're right. You're absolutely right. When a smaller, potential, ISP tries to enter the market they're immediately quashed by Comcast, Time Warner, or who ever. See, that's the point my drunk ass has been trying to make in my past few posts. People don't care. They have Comcast, for example, that they're paying $80 to $100 a month for unreliable service... they don't care that a smaller company might be able to provide them with the same quality of service for $70 a month. They'll pay the $100 and be quite.

This Stradia bullshit isn't much different.

>Little shithead: mommy I wanna play games!
>Mommy: well son we'll get you the new google steaming service so you can play allllll the games you want!
>But mommy I want a PS4
>Mommy: No son that's too expensive the Stradia only costs me and your stepdad 10 dollars a month!
>Little shithead: Thanks mommy you're the best!

Or...

>dude
>bruh
>dude
>bruh I'm sooo high right now
>dude did you hear we can play fucking CoD and R6 Siege for only 10 bucks a month? We can even play NBA and Madden too!
>bruh helllllll yeah...

None of them realize how much more they'll be paying in the long run, and they won't care.

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No fuck off google shill. I hope you die and stay forgotten

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>But people that have unlimited data caps with 50mbps usually can buy a console easily
I really wouldn't be so sure. I don't know about your country but speeds like that are pretty typical here in the UK. In Feb 2019, the average download speed for the UK was 55.14Mbps, but it's gaining rapidly - in May 2018 it was 46.2Mbps, and in April 2017 it was 36.2Mbps. So yeah, the average in May 2019 is going to be more than 55Mbps, and it's gaining all the time.

ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/02/uk-ranks-27th-out-of-54-countries-for-average-broadband-isp-speed.html
trustedreviews.com/news/uk-broadband-speed-average-2018-3470469

And for lots of people, whether they're kids, or maybe young (or even older) adults who want to check out a game but don't want to drop money on a console, I think the idea of just paying £9 to start playing some games could be compelling.

True, the only game included in that £9 at the moment is Destiny 2. They say they'll add more games to that subscription, but who knows how quickly that will happen. And all the other games, you have to buy. But still, £9 to play a pretty popular AAA game, without needing a console or gaming PC, will have some fans. And if more games are added, like Google claims, it will sweeten the deal.

>just because this probably will work in the future it doesn't mean that it works in the current system
If anyone can make it work, surely massive companies like Google and Microsoft, with Stadia and xCloud respectively, have a pretty high chance of doing it better than anyone else.

>besides most people only complain because google is a trendy punchbag today
Yeah I think that seems to be a factor for Yea Forums's reaction.

>the mental gymnastics in this post
if you have fiber broadband, a decent enough pc, a 4K tv or whatever, you're already of a high enough socioeconomic class that you can buy a console or a graphics card outright, you'll be intelligent enough to understand that paying $120 a year in addition paying for games is retarded (only some mostly unappealing games will be included in the subscription)

XB1 isn't actually that bad (very similar level to Switch over the last year).

You just used the wrong search term.

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You make a lot of sense. But, the danger is that if this shit takes off, it'll give license to everyone else: Ubisoft, EA, Activision, whoever, to jump on the bandwagon and start doing the same thing.

Companies are taking away our rights of ownership over products that we pay for and we're doing absolutely fuck all about it.

The future, Conan?

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Pretty sure it was a bong that made the internet.

lmao

>he thinks ad hominem is an argument
All you are doing is signifying your own lack of intelligence.

>if you have fiber broadband, a decent enough pc, a 4K tv or whatever, you're already of a high enough socioeconomic class that you can buy a console or a graphics card outright
Maybe you need to read what I said again. There will be lots of people, whether they're kids (or their parents) or adults that just want to check out a game for a month or two, who will find this compelling.

Maybe you also need to take a look at how many people pay for their smartphones with monthly plans, instead of buying the handset up front. SOME people buy the handset up front, but many people pay for them as part of their monthly plan.

As I said in my first post in this thread, just because a product doesn't appeal to YOU doesn't mean that it doesn't appeal to ANYONE. I didn't think it would take much mental power to recognise that fact.

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keep seething, gjewgle shill

ouya twoya was a failure just like most google products to kill the competition

google+ comes to mind, facebook for incels basically

This. Exactly.

wrong nigger

The internet was used in the 70's by the US military for a way to communicate without using frequency. A bongistan only created the WWW format.

I'm pretty sure he is meme'ing.

I mean, I'm not surprised. If something comes out that I don't like, I ignore it and don't watch any videos, read any articles, or tell/ask any friends about it to avoid blowing it up in popularity.

I've successfully done all these things so far, so I can't wait to see it crash and burn in less than a month.

google has never made anything good themselves

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remind me of that user on Yea Forums once in a thread told me the story of his town and google fiber

dude was fucking livid because he lives in a small city/ town and google want to test and bring their fiber there, so he got involved and try to get it rolling. talked to other citizen, townhall and people in government. in the end they just said no because "it cost too much", but he knew they just got their pockets filled by other telecom companies in the region

No, a Brit invented the world wide web, the most useful thing running on the internet (by far), but not the internet itself (the physical network). Web browsers, HTML, and HTTP were invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee. Earlier internet technologies arose from some American military projects. But the internet did not gain widespread adoption until Sir Tim invented HTTP and HTML.

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>still can't even handle steam's in-house streaming from two laptops in the same 5ghz lan without lowering resolution and getting mouse lag spikes
>google wants me to play video games through the internet

Wat? Is this the VR of the subscription service? A shitty niche deal bought by "high end" users who are trying to not sunk their costs?

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You're part of the problem. You're the "suburbanite" that doesn't give a shit about crime in your city if it "doesn't affect you" directly.

See: >hrrrrrr I don't care because it doesn't affect me.

Then when it does you'll be here crying about why no one did anything.

this
they're propped up by their ad revenue which they only have because they lucked out by making a search engine early in the internet game
see project ara etc, they're trying to force shitty memes like any meme startup in silicon valley

I have Comcast because they are the only service here and they Data cap me. They already got mad at me once when I was torrenting a boatload one month.

Denuvo does require you to go online after the first time.

youtube.com/watch?v=IKhe6ODDYKA
4 mins in
yikes

>Talking about ignoring certain video game-related things because the modern gaming industry thrives on controversy
>"MRRHRHRHREEEEEEE, YOU'RE THE REASON WHY NIGGERS COMMIT CRIME"

Excuse me, did I miss something

Ubisoft and EA are signed up to Stadia. I doubt they would build their own streaming platforms - I mean it's possible, but the infrastructure investment would be huge. So I'd assume they'll just use Stadia, xCloud, PlayStation Now, etc.

>Companies are taking away our rights of ownership over products that we pay for and we're doing absolutely fuck all about it.
I'm sure you'll still be able to buy games if you want to - look how much money the movie industry makes from selling you DVDs and Blu Rays. I don't think game purchases are going to go anywhere.

>doesn't have an argument
>seethes at my argument but demonstrates that he lacks the intelligence to counter it
Poetic.

Thanks man. Maybe I'm wrong, but surely if anyone can pull off cloud gaming, it will be bigass companies like Google and Microsoft. And they're investing tons of money into it. And Microsoft has shown cool tech for overcoming the effects of latency: youtube.com/watch?v=ocWTSq7IaLI

And I'm sure at least some people will be attracted to this product. Not all hardcore gamers, no; probably more casual gamers.

It seems you suffer from a low IQ (or you're 14 like 90% of the posters on this piss board), so allow me to explain (I would used the word elaborate, but that would have confused you even more), my point.

You said:

>I mean, I'm not surprised. If something comes out that I don't like, I ignore it and don't watch any videos, read any articles, or tell/ask any friends about it to avoid blowing it up in popularity.

Implying you do nothing. You turn your head. You avoid any conflict or controversy (I'm using multisyllable words, so stop me if you get lost), which essentially means you don't give a shit.

The fact you used the words "I mean" pretty much proves to me you're a 14 year old. But, go on.... and I'll give you another (you).

Are data caps common in the US? Here in the UK I think most people have unlimited. I'm pretty sure it's only the very cheapest plans that have data caps.

I don't think it's the infrastructure that'll be the bottleneck. After all, they're already hosting servers for most of their games, and these are multi-billion dollar companies.

What I was saying is that if Stradia takes off.... they might follow suit like EA and Activision did when mobile gaming took off with Pay to Win designs. It wouldn't take much for a Ubisoft to say:

>hey we don't need Google we can do our own thing and charge a monthly fee.

Op why did you make this 2 days ago?

Imagine selling a streaming gaming service in an era where home connections have a monthly data cap.

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Difference with Steam is that you don't have to pay a subscription to continue to have access to your games.

Fine print below on Stadia's website says this

>If you cancel your subscription, you will lose access to games unlocked in the subscription and any add-on or expansion content you have purchased for those games. Add-on content is not refundable. If you re-subscribe, access to games that you had previously claimed will be restored including any add-on content that you had purchased.

Unsure how that applies to the free version, but I'm sure we'll get details next year.

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>18+

One of the best ones.

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The mental gymnasts they do to justify their wasted buy is amusing.

this one made me laugh for a while

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That's not the point. Companies are ignoring their fanbases (the people who made them what they are) for the almighty dollar... they're catering to the lowest common denominator (normie) to maximize profits. Because gaming has become more mainstream and acceptable to shitheads who only care about dudebro shooters and sports games, that's who they're going to cater to.. not you, not me, not everyone else who bought their games over the past 5, 10, 20 years.

why should anyone be talking about Stadia?
It's Artifact all over again
You can't break into a long standing market while simultaneously offering nothing new or interesting
Just give me one good reason to get a Stadia if I already have a PS4

At this point it's like a fucking SWTOR thread

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Someone give me the non-shill answer: what kinds of response times am I looking at considering I get pings of sub 40 in most games and 20 on speedtest

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their own testing shows 179 ms latency compared to 79 ms for their system at 60 fps. remember it's going to be vsync'd and triple buffered, no 144 Hz adaptive sync

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fuck you, it's fun to talk about failures

...

Yeah, I said that. On a video game imageboard.

I know this is probably bait, but still, if you lack a basic sense of implication, you probably shouldn't be on the internet yet, kiddo.

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Stop living in a bubble. YOU (while you may think you're the end all be all) are not who they're targeting. Most posters here aren't interested in Stradia, but we don't represent the majority of the world...

Get it now?

>Especially when the new consoles come out parents are going to say what game you want to stadia not what console and game you want.

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Oh so you get caught shitting on yourself and your response is

>Yeah, I said that. On a video game imageboard.

Got it.

>$120/year
>free

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Yeah their target market seems to be braindead fucking redditors. Look at some of these screencaps. These people are fucking brainlet retards and they aren't going to make the platform succesful. Only literal, mouthbreathing retards are buying into this garbage. It's Ouya shit all over again.

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based

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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you're the one living in a bubble if you think the market for this is more than a tiny minority of the world

I hear you, but here's a big difference... the Ouya was back in what? 2012 by some small company that needed Kickstarter to get going? This isn't the same thing.... this is Google one of the largest companies on the fucking planet.

As for the

>mouthbreathing retards

My dude, that's the majority of the human race. How the fuck do you think the Kardashians got so famous?

ps4pro is 3 years old tho which is exactly 360$ for 3 years of stadia

>My dude, that's the majority of the human race

Yeah, you can stop trying to be so fucking "relatable," marketer.

The subsect of retards subscribing to Google Stadia and buying "founder's packs" are a special kind of retard that's below human, it's subhuman. Even retards know not to touch this shit.

consoles have resale value

Who the fuck do you think is playing Bejeweled or Words with Friends? Some dude who's working his way through Dark Souls for the 3rd time? Do I really need to explain this to you? Do I really need to clarify that Google didn't launch this product with the true "gamer" in mind?

I told a Stadiaer that and he said I was materialistic

>streaming is the future, and it looks good

How? There's no way in hell Stadia is going to disrupt the existing business model because it's impossible for a cut of subs to come anywhere near what direct sales can reach. So the major game companies are going to keep selling their games individually. This might be ok for shit that came out a few years ago, after the long tail has reached its tip, and maybe Google is expecting to play a long game here knowing full well it'll take the better part of a decade to build up new content.

Maybe the major players will try to build their own streaming services, but that will go about as well as the proliferation of monthly subscription MMOs.

Ouya

most people aren't emotionally invested in stadia like you shills are. it's a shitty deal and most people can tell. if they have a $1000 tv, $1000 laptop and $50/month internet, what's another few hundred to a thousand for a console or a top of the line gaming pc

Streaming IS the future - a stream where you pay 9.99 a month and have access to all video games across any platform. Not one controlled by google that charges you 60 bucks for a triple A game.

Jesus, how long have you lived with your mother? Have you even seen a vagina, much less ever smelled one?

>Every retard know (sic) not to touch this shit
>Implying that the average fuckhead normie who knows nothing about gaming thinks exactly like you.

Try again.

Could you out yourself as a fucking marketer any further? I know Google deploys the fucking drones but coming on Yea Forums and asking me if I live with my mom or have I seen a vagina is literally the best way to paint yourself as a fucking dumbass paid "influencer"

It's a well known fact playstation doesn't have nor want a mascot so you could insert nearly anything for it

I thought they had no chance until they announced the free option. Now they can market to the inner city kids on the time warner/comcast connections with an old LCD tv. They won't make a ton of money but it won't be dead in the water unless they're banking on pro subscriptions to subsidize it. The latency issues will prevent it from completely taking over though. It's going to be appealing to rich people who don't know better (apple audience) and poor who can't do better. The middle which is the bulk of the current market won't care but I doubt google cares because they seem to be going after untapped markets.

Then they'll shut it down in 3 years even if it's profitable because it's google

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you dont need to pay a subscription for Stadia you retard. stop spreading misinformation like a mong

>>Every retard know (sic) not to touch this shit

Who the fuck are you quoting, shill?
The post you linked says
>Even retards know not to touch this shit.

Wow your reading comprehension is what... zero? If you actually had the intelligence to understand what I have been saying, I have been saying that Stradia is going to potentially destroy gaming.

Are "gamers" really this fucking stupid?

Doc? I'm here for my appointment

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I wish I could, but I'm out of bandwidth to do so

>1TB of bandwidth after ~50 hours

haha no

>Streaming IS the future - a stream where you pay 9.99 a month and have access to all video games across any platform.
Will never ever happen.

lmao

It will, just not soon and not by Google. More likely from something like Steam.

Ok, let me try small words... since you're either 13 or a high school drop out who's still "going get their GED one day."

>Every retard knows not to touch this shit.
Yes, that's right. Every retarded GAMER who actually plays games and actually knows something about the gaming industry knows not to touch Stradia.

Ok, time for small words, so your simpleton ass understands.

Normies (people who don't think like us) do.not. no (know). about. gaming (playing video games). they (those who aren't gamers). don't (do not). no (know). any. better.

Does that help clear it up, you insufferable retard?

Everyone itt is laughing at you, shill. You're not fooling anyone and you look like a moron.

I think infrastructure will matter, because game streaming so far has had noticeable latency, so it will take clever and expensive hardware (and software tricks) to try and eliminate that.

But even if EA and Activision did make their own streaming services, I guess a bit like Hulu or Amazon Prime Video, well then, customers don't have to use them unless they really want to. I am sure game ownership (and game consoles, and gaming PCs) will stick around. Like I say, physical movie sales still make a lot of money. Ultimately, if there's a market for it, it will stick around, obviously.

Also if you're still worried about the ownership thing, look at Steam. Valve have said that if Steam were to ever close, then they'll release a patch so that all games will be playable offline, and they'll give you some time to download all your games before the servers shut down. I would imagine Google making similar assurances about Stadia. I'm sure people will keep mentioning this worry which, you would think, would motivate Google into taking a stance on it.

Brit here, only the very cheapest and crappest deals over here have usage limits. In fact I just looked up a popular "cheap" provider over here, and it looks like every single one of their plans has unlimited downloads, even their cheapest £13.50/month package ($17 USD).

Are data caps really common in the US?

Game streaming will never not have imput delay, which will never not be made worse by slow/bad internet connections.

normies know about gaming consoles. the concept is simple enough for a boomer to understand. they don't know about cloud gaming and chromecast and whatever the fuck.

You don't pay the subscription to access the games you buy, mate. You will only lose access to the free games included in the pro subscription (currently only Destiny 2, with more games coming apparently), if you stop subscribing.

This guy is correct:

>movie industry makes from selling you DVDs and Blu Rays
Wait really? Those still sell? I thought they had already died out
I dont go out much

the free tier won't have 4k or surround sound tho

Ah alright thanks.

I'm 28, do I win anything? Maybe proving you to be fucktarded is a prize enough in itself.

When I was a kid, characters like Crash Bandicoot and Lara Croft were associated with PS. Crash was even in PS adverts right? Yeah neither of those would work today, but yeah. Guess you could have Nathan Drake or whatever.

>free games included in the pro subscription
They are not free if you have to pay for them.

Feels good man

Literally live in bumfuck rural Montana and have gigabit.

That's not how Google is going to sell it. You're right, most normies don't know the difference between a "cloud" and a stick of RAM.... but Google will sell it as "Play hundreds of $60 games at only $10 a month" - that's what normies get.

My fear is that this time we're not dealing with a Kickstarter company, we're dealing with one of the largest companies on the planet.. who... if successful may encourage other companies (From Software, Ubisoft, et al) to follow in their steps.

>not laughing at a potential trainwreck
were you not here for ouya?

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Yeah they do, including the newer Ultra HD Blu Ray (4K). I assume it's a smaller market than it used to be, but you can still buy them. My family and I always buy each other Blu Rays, and sometimes UHD Blu Rays, for birthdays and stuff.

Yes, but you will still have access to games that you buy, without needing a subscription.

You don't pay for Destiny 2 if you have the subscription. It costs no extra money to play Destiny 2 if you have the subscription. I made that very clear in the post, but obviously you're just being autistic.

That's why you see it go up a little bit at the end.

>we
Also fuck off, Stadia will never take off

They're becoming more common yes. 1TB/mo seems to be the standard.

>My fear is that this time we're not dealing with a Kickstarter company, we're dealing with one of the largest companies on the planet.. who... if successful may encourage other companies (From Software, Ubisoft, et al) to follow in their steps.

This sounds like a shill "pretending."
>Google... Is so powerful... MY fear is this will... Dominate the world and everyone will follow...

Oh and we also pay roughly five times that number, minimum, because that's what you get when you don't regulate your fucking telcoms.

Might as well get rid of everything I own, considering I’ll die at some random day in the future. Thanks user.

HAAHAHAAHAAAH only 7 people searched for Stadia LOL the absolute STATE of jewgle

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You can't speak of FREE GAMES when you have to pay a subscription.

user, Destiny 2 ia a free to play now

I don't disagree with you. I guess what I've been trying to say is that we game hobbyist think differently from the rest of the population when it comes to our passion. You and I understand latency, but the average Joe who's enticed by the thought of playing Madden and NBA and Forza (for only $10 a month) doesn't even know what latency is.

My fear is that we are a minority (if I say Outland, you know what I'm talking about, but ask 10 people at your work if they know). Companies are going to cater to whatever demographic will profit them the most.... the group who knows what "Outlander" is versus the group that doesn't is unbalanced in favor of those who don't.

This isn't an issue about latency, or bandwith, or whatever... because the people the Stradia is targeting don't know what those terms mean. This is an issue of gaming evolving into a more mainstream form of entertainment that outright rejects those of us who have participated for decades.

I hope I make some sense.

>our passion
It's so clear you're not from Yea Forums and are a fucking marketer trying to fit in.

>Hello fellow gamerrsss

>Web browsers, HTML, and HTTP were invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee.
Thanks for inventing cancer.
Gopher is better in every single way.

holy fuck these people are mental

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>Hello fellow gamers
That was my line when I was bitching about Blizzard advertising here.

If you really don't care about gaming (which I don't believe, you're just a troll looking for a (you)) then you should leave.

They're fucking loons man. That entire sub is a fucking goldmine of retards

t. Google

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Just Destiny 2 vanilla, Cure Of Osiris and Warmind are going free to play for everyone. The Stadia Founder's Pack is also including Forsaken, Annual Pass 1, Shadowkeep and Annual Pass 2

>but Google will sell it as "Play hundreds of $60 games at only $10 a month" - that's what normies get.

Ok, I'll give you that. Normies will definitely buy that. But how long will they stick with it when content doesn't materialize? Which it won't, because it just doesn't provide a lot of value to the content producers. This isn't like PS Now where Sony has the benefit of being a first party games developer, with some pretty strong exclusives from both first and third party sources. And if PS Now is only doing so-so with that huge advantage, Google has its work cut out.

Damn that sucks.

Damn that sucks too. I should make clear, that £13.50 / $17 a month option is only for 10Mbps broadband. But yeah, it is unlimited for usage.

I think other Americans have said that broadband in America is basically dominated by massive companies like Comcast which nobody likes. Is that right? I mean our broadband industry is mostly dominated by big companies too, but there's a fair few to choose from. BT, Sky, Virgin, TalkTalk, Vodafone are the big ones. In my area I can get all of them, and that's probably the same for most people in the UK, unless they live in extremely rural areas.

>deliberately being an autist
Yeah I'm going to ignore you now.

Firstly this: And secondly, what about a kid or an adult who doesn't have a console or a gaming PC? They won't be able to run free-to-play Destiny on just a cheap laptop. But with Stadia, they just pay the £9 for a month's subscription, and they're gaming straight away.

That's so irrelevant that I don't even know what it is.

The problem is that the US cable companies are run the same way Britsh rail companies are; the government auctions off sections of track (or in this case sections of cable) to the highest bidder and whatever company wins the bid gets a monopoly for that area.

Well considering i still can't fucking run the game at a stable 60 fps with an I7-8700, gtx 1060 6gb and 16gb of ram, cloud gaming might be the only way most people could ever play it.

it's still an old game that has lost players over its microtransaction controversies, stadia will have to bring more newer games to the table for it to be remotely appealing

You're thinking like a gamer. We wouldn't put up with a service that doesn't deliver when it comes to gaming.... but the "normie" wont care. I made the analogy before comparing this to Planet Fitness.

Here's the difference. You and I take gaming a bit more serious. We pay for a gaming service that doesn't deliver and we simply quit and walk away. The "normie" who buys into a gaming service may not be so picky. They pay $10 a month for a service they don't use (much like their Planet Fitness membership) and they don't care because it's only "$10" a month.

>This is an issue of gaming evolving into a more mainstream form of entertainment that outright rejects those of us who have participated for decades.
Again, I don't really think that should be a worry, personally. Look how the music industry is catering to vinyl lovers. There's been a real resurgence in support for that format, despite the fact that THE VAST MAJORITY of music listeners don't use vinyl. But there is a passionate fanbase that does, and so the record companies cater to that, because if there's a market there, there will be someone to cater to that market.

Hardcore gamers aren't going to go anywhere, so physical games, and local gaming, are probably going to stick around for quite a long time.

>anyone who says something that makes me butthurt MUST be a paid marketer! there's simply no other explanation!
Paranoid schizophrenia is a serious condition and I hope you get help.

Alright but this is my fetish

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>have my laptop and desktop hooked up to easily transfer files about
>try out remote desktop to my desktop from my laptop to try and play some game
>it runs like sliding down a cheese grater
>sometimes it just hangs before spiking forward
>this is when my two computers are connected less than 100 feet apart by a wire
>google somehow things the Stadia is going to fix this

This thing will drop as fast as google glass did.

That sounds shit. So in most areas of the US, there's literally only one option for broadband with no competitors?

GUYS!!

WHAT ABOUT SOME AI

WHAT ABOUT SOME AI THAT PREDICTS YOUR MOVEMENTS AND INPUTS SO IT CAN ELIMINATE ALL THE LAGS BY PLAYING IN YOUR PLACE ONE SECOND SOONER THAT ANY OF YOUR BUTTON PRESS?

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Only good thing was the porn memes
This

I wanna play the Disney horror game. Guess I'll have to wait a fucking year.

the average consumer isn't the brightest, sure, but they're not completely braindead. people won't just blindly sign up for a new service like this, they'll google it and look at reviews and so on, and they'll look at alternatives like getting a game console or building their own pc.

Yes and if you're really unlucky then none. It's satellite hell for me and it's so awful I don't even consider it a real option.

I hope you're right, user. I truly hope you're right.

Most parents won't spend 10 minutes to research and review GTA5 before buying it for their 10 year old fuck trophy. Then get all bent out of shape about how "inappropriate" it is...

Maybe you're right. I don't know. I just think this is a bigger issue than Yea Forums or gaming in general is making it out to be. I hope I'm wrong.

Fuck online only drm rental game streaning.

Hey remember onlive

Sort of. You will typically have one of the few big names in the country followed by two or three local ISPs that are about as good as running your own line and then a satellite ISP.

After moving around a lot, I ended up in Alaska where we have three, two of witch are local, and the third is a satellite ISP. The two local companies charge $80/month or $200/month for unlimited access with. The $200 month company then offers packages with data caps starting at $50/month for 50 gigs a month.

This should be illegal but the telecom giants own the government.

There are so many fucking idiots in this thread (like these smoothbrains: ) who think that just because Stadia doesn't appeal to THEM, the hardcore gamer, then necessarily it won't appeal to ANYONE.

This is false, and it's difficult to express in terms how stupid you are if you think like this. Like Jesus fuck you must have the mental capacity of a fucking two year old if you don't know that there are other people, other customers, in the world besides yourself.

Gamers Nexus expressed it well:
>This is probably not something that most of the PC enthusiasts in our audience will particularly care about right now, because it doesn't require building a high end machine to use. That said, game streaming, we think, eventually will be a significant market.
At 13:18 here: youtube.com/watch?v=IKhe6ODDYKA

And he goes on to explain how, for casual gamers, game streaming could well be compelling, which I agree with.

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Yes and our infrastructure hasn't improved since then.

Someone post the Asscreed delay input webm

Guys what if Stadia ends up actually being good

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latency isn't going to magically disappear

As long as it's streaming it's bad

How the fuck is constant stuttering and 2-5 second hang ups appealing to casuals?

The delay will make it unplayable shit for anyone who isn't a very casual gamer and a very casual gamer won't be paying $60 for a game or $10 a month, they will just keep playing their free mobile games

It will be good. Who do you trust more to get it right?
>multi billion dollar global company
>some incels on a nepalese timbering forum
Yea Forums has literally never been right and it's going to be so enjoyable seeing them seeth post-stadia era

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nah mate the most shit streaming based platforms get the better. The general public needs to understand how shit they are, or at least pretend to know.

who's the target audience for this?

nvm found it

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Suhweet!!!

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He pushes A like 3 times before anything happens.

DUUUDE this changes everything

I can only see one kind of person being interested in this and that's mouthbreathing fucktarded normalfags who buy FIFA every year plus microtransactions because they don't know any better. Their opinions don't matter and anyone in the know who understands a thing or two about the tech can see the writing on the wall.

His PC is probably so bad it's going to heat up just from streaming the video, causing high fan speeds

google has had numerous failed projects
killedbygoogle.com/

what fanless device can you play stadia games on?

Chromecast I guess,

>a company that's trying to sell you a product vs random people on the internet
gullible retard

>4k 60 FPS streaming at 4 MB/s
What a fucking scam, this will flop so hard. It's just another excuse for Google to put cameras in your house.

A phone, but only the ones google sells

a hypothetical mouthbreather who is too cheap to spend $300 on hardware yet has a computer and fiber broadband and can pay for $60 games

This. I don't believe google is actually seriously trying to compete in the video game market or being any new next generation games to anyone. It's just an excuse to get google into more homes. Probably for machine learning algorithms so they can analyze thousands of people playing games which will train their AI.

you can already stream AAA games from your pc to a tablet. Whats the point of this?

>35mpbs connection is good enough for 4k60fps
Get ready for literal shit tier image quality

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Except you still have to pay for the games lmao
And even retarded normies won't like playing with a delay, especially not sports games fans

The ultimate DRM

What they failed to mention was bitrate. Imagine when you're moving fast and there's a ton of motion on screen.

>Youtube wants 68 mbps for 4k

lol

>1060 6gb on a I7-8700
nice bottleneck retard

>You're thinking like a gamer.

I'm thinking like a consumer. Normies cancel and restart their Netflix subscriptions all the time, particularly between major releases, and Netflix offers more benefits to the content producers -the life blood of the platform- than Stadia does. You're making the assumption that Stadia will have content to back up that $10 asking price. I don't think you fully appreciate how bold an assumption that is given how much game companies can keep for themselves by simply not putting their content on Stadia in the first place.

As it is, Netflix is starting to see competition from former partners wanting to build their own streaming platforms to host the content they themselves produce. I can see this happening to Stadia before it even launches.

>sims city 2013: the console
damm EA, you got outclassed, better luck next time

SHOW THE LATENCY

That logic worked out well for Anthem

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>literally going to be half the quality that 4k is on jewtube right now

The $10 month subscription doesn't include the vast majority of the library.

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> game requires an internet connection AND a membership which requires a monthly fee

fucking disgusting

The vast majority of people using this don't have connections good enough for 4k/60fps

There is not a single flaccid penis when this kind of consumer enters a car dealership:

It's for poorfags who can't afford a PC or console and need to rent their games.

DRM. The ultimate DRM experience, worse than the original Xbox One ideas. I can guarantee only garbage like Gone Home or played to death old timer ganes will be on the 1080p free program. Google DRM, Stadia.

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It will only be good if we enter a magical age where everyone suddenly has good internet
So never

>server farms run on 100% renewable energy and are green

I'm convinced Stadia fanboys are tech illiterate. This is the OUYA all over again.

holy fucking kek is that a jbhifi?

>Guys what if Onlive and PSnow end up actually being good

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the only thing it will be remembered for is the slutty tan

You are beyond parody at this point.

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I dunno about overseas, but here in the US the internet infrastructure is extremely cucked in favor of ISP's, those data caps will cripple you. Can't see this being past a very super niche add-on.

>a game in dev hell for a service dead on arrival
sounds about right

>Maybe you also need to take a look at how many people pay for their smartphones with monthly plans, instead of buying the handset up front
This stop being a common thing years ago, almost everyone either buys smartphones upfront or they're subsidized by the company they work for. The 2-year contract for a a "discount" on your flagship phone is an archaic model.

>Try again.
fucking google shills

>All you are doing is signifying your own lack of intelligence.
Ironic coming from someone too stupid to understand ad hominem.

>the autists of Yea Forums are so incomprehensibly stupid that they think just because a product doesn't appeal to THEM, that must mean it will appeal to NO ONE!
>Running your games on native hardware is just like owning vinyl

Totally not a butthurt marketer.

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google should try making a few games before a whole console thats really retarded

I don't know what kinda of demographic incredibly obvious input lag appeals to

I really want this to work. I think it'd be a great thing for so many people. But, I just really don't see it being technically possible for at least 30 years. Unless Google themselves dropped fiber all over world - because you bet your sweaty nipples that AT&T and Verizon aren't going to do shit unless someone has a gun to their head. My Google ping is 9ms and I felt significant input lag during their closed beta. For a "real" gamer, it was unplayable. At 9ms. On AT&T Fiber. With the green utility box literally 12 feet from the side of my house, on my property.

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>I really want this to work. I think it'd be a great thing for so many people.
>literally paying to rent your games that will literally vanish once the streaming service ends with literally none of the advantages like used games, mod support, etc.

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People like to oversimplify. For example, if Steam goes bankrupt, they have an emergency system in place already to ensure you always have access to your games. Part of that system is removing the Steam DRM from your entire library. Just because you can't touch them, doesn't mean you will ever lose access to them. Origin and Ubisoft have similar oh-shit procedures.

>unless Google themselves dropped fiber all over world
bruh Google couldn't even handle Louisville, they literally pulled their fiber service earlier this year.

So? I mean, So? You act like everything in life has a set price and the product is always within your grasp. Like 30% of your income at minimum goes to renting or leasing products/houses/apartments/cars/contracted services/etc. I spend $150 or so a month on games. Why not spend $40-60 instead? 90% of this shit I will never play after beating it. Physical copies are just wasting space.

Google and their fiber service is a legal issue that I couldn't decently summarize if I typed for an entire hour. But basically all the other telcomms are the enemy and cockblocking Google & tying them up in court at every turn. And this is happening in every city/county/state/municipality. Google has lawyers all over the country dealing with this shit in thousands of court rooms. As does AT&T and the rest fighting against them.

Steam DRM is so trivial to bypass that the only games that would be affected are ones with third party DRM like Denuvo and ones that are already always online.
>this retarded tier of mental gymnastics used to rationalize renting games

Also the price for stadia games aren't any cheaper than retail games you actually own. Or if you want to be a pedantic "You don't own your games!" autist, your rental streaming games aren't cheaper than the perpetual licenses you pay for.

I think the theory is you can play anything, any console streamed through a Stadia. Not that they have the rights.

You can't play anything though, only specific games none of which are console exclusive.

Sure as shit didn't save the Ouya.

It's teenagers that play sims. Soccer moms play Candy Crush now.

>Joe Six Pack
Owns an xbox, not a dweeb PC.

Climate change 'activism' is social engineering, prove me wrong.

A smart TV. But that's gonna suck.

You're just fighting advancement and logic. Even if Stadia was $80 a month, it would still be cheaper than most adult gamers spend on games per month. And, again, most games will never be played after they're beaten. I'm 39 years old and can only think of 10 or so games I'd ever go back and replay. And all but 1 of them are already in the digital age and I don't need the CDs anymore, such as Deus Ex, Civilization II, Everquest, Final Fantasy IX, etc.

You'll get over it. I get it if you're a game collector that likes them displayed on a shelf. But everyone else is better off paying $80 for access to a library with 10,000 games, a la Netflix.

You're talking about a public unveiling. What the fuck did you expect? Steam's entire library? Of course they'd only have a handful of games.

>pay to rent your games retard
>You're just fighting advancement and logic.
t.

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I'm talking about the actual games that you can play on the system. The selling point of Stadia isn't being able to play anything and any console.

I don't get the appeal of this thing. I guess it's targeting casuals who want their gaming experience to be like flipping channels on a TV.

In other words, 95% of people that buy games. Half of nerds just steal them. The other half only play FIFA. Normies make up the vast, vast pool of consumers and they will always dictate what you're going to see next on the shelf next month. Seeing as faggot liberals are hellbent on crushing individuality and creativity in the marketplace.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to conflate buying digital games you can back up on a hard drive to streaming only games that literally vanish once the publisher decides its no longer profitable for you to have them.

In other words, you have no real argument other than "muh pride". You were better off not replying.

This kills the shill

>Half of nerds just steal them. The other half only play FIFA.
How did you retards end up here

>conflate buying digital games you can back up on a hard drive to streaming only games that literally vanish

How much of your game library can you actually back up without piracy? 10%? 15%? Fuck off. Stadia is the exact same thing as Steam in terms of access.

You literally tried to claim cloud gaming rentals is "muh advancement and logic". You literally have no real arugment, just the asinine babbling of a mental midget. You were better off being aborted in the womb.

>Stadia is the exact same thing as Steam in terms of access.

This fucking shill

>Fuck off. Stadia is the exact same thing as Steam in terms of access.

You should consider killing yourself.

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>0 exclusive games

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I can back up my entirely library of games I paid for, because I'm not an autistic who adheres to a rigid definition of piracy = bypassing any form of DRM protections. And cloud streaming where your games are literally inaccessible as soon as a company stops streaming the game to you is nowhere near the same thing as having games on your own hardware, you mental abortion.

Are you all retarded? They offer free service in 1080p at 60 fps. The sub is for free games and service in 4k at 60 fps.

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Why would you ever make a new video game console nowadays? It's always guranteed to be beaten out by Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft. Such a fucking waste of funds and time.

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>The sub is for free games
*game

with steam all i have to do is
>go to v:/tools/steamworks cracks/
>copy past steam_api64.cdx, steam_api64.dll, and steam_emu.ini into the game's directory
>and change the steamID in the ini file to the game
and bam I can play it
fuck off with your retarded
>you can't play your steam games without steam

God I hope these streaming services are just a fad. I've lost track of how many there are.

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The profoundly autistic posters who spend nearly every waking moment defending Stadia in these threads are deadset on trying to convince people that people can tolerate
>100ms of input latency, despite every shred of empirical testing proving the exact opposite. These genetic dead ends literally cannot tell the difference between lag in online multiplayer vs input latency from streaming the entire game, to them its somehow just as noticeable as framerate. They think google and Microsoft have magic technology that can eliminate input latency from streaming based off a single youtube video, and as soon as you call them out on their retardation they will deflect and project the fact that they're too stupid to be informed about the subject in question. There's no point in reasoning with a drooling mong that insist 500ms of input lag is how average people play and not egregiously bad. Cloud gaming drones are the anti-vaxxers of gaming.

Some games on steam don't even require you to do that to play without the launcher.

I'm aware, there's a list somewhere IIRC.
However, with how stupid the idiots spreading this FUD are, telling them that will just confuse them.

>always online cloud gaming is the exact same thing as digital distribution in terms of access

How much do they get paid to say shit like this?

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Why don't you make a thread about yourself, then?

If Stadia was just a flat monthly subscription fee to access all the games I'd be interested. But fuck paying $60 for games just to play them with input lag over a compressed stream.

>Then get all bent out of shape about how "inappropriate" it is...
Protip: That's what Rockstar uses to help market these games. You can't market a streaming service based on how shit it feels to use

if you have the internet speed to easily stream games is it really a problem for you to download games back and forth?

Normies may not know shit like lag but they will pick up on it if it's bad enough. They'll complain it feels off.

>they don't care because it's only "$10" a month.
You have to buy games on Stadia. The subscription only gets you 4K streaming and some occasional free games like Destiny 2, but they haven't announced how many other free games or if there will be some kind of rotation for them.

>There are so many fucking idiots in this thread (like these smoothbrains:

You're one of them.

>paying for a shitty video stream
Reminder that 1080p60 is 3+Gbit/s data transfer from your gpu to your monitor.
The picture quality would be like comparing 64kbit mp3 to flac.

This
Fuck that
Rest in piss google

Memes aside about muh muricans, the ISPs promised Congress they would build up the infrastructure and then sat on their ass for decades now. Of course the chickenshits in Congress won't do anything about it.
Also America is a massive country. The cities have good internet, it's everywhere else that gets screwed.

This
If nothing else Nintendo games work offline.
Everything from the 8 bit Gameboy to the switch works during a power outrage or in the middle of the woods where you have no coverage

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>as we move to the cloud
The cloud is just someone else's computer, you fucking chimp.

Remember when only Yea Forums got pissed at Microsoft over the Xbone reveal?

Because America is a fuckhuge place. We have individual states that are multiple times bigger than the largest European nations.

It was the highest selling PS3 software for the first few weeks.

Stadia would be appealing if you didn't have to pay full price for every game.

Some US cities have third world tier consumer internet. Also the ISPs didn't just promise to build up their infrastructure, they were paid billions of tax payer money to do so.

This is gold, Jerry! Gold!

Except RE7, oh boy.

>Some US cities have third world tier consumer internet.
When that user says "the cities have good internet" he means "the most major metropolitan areas have good internet."

At least you can crack them to back them up if they're on your hard drive, can't do shit with streamed games.

That's what I mean, even some of the largest metro areas like NYC have third world tier internet in comparison to some other cities here.

The Pro subscription gives you discounts on games
But even then it wouldn't be appealing, because Stadia games have inherently less value than games I can buy and play (and even stream) from my own hardware. Retards will say "but you can play anywhere!' while ignoring all the drawbacks of wireless video game streaming.

RE7 on the Switch is pretty analogous to what playing a game on Stadia is like. Someone brought this up in an earlier thread and the response from Stadia shills was that it didn't count because its Japan only (guess why idiot) and that all Nintendo games require a paid online subscription.

if they have some good exclusives ill get it but for now it's a joke

Marketers should be banned on site.

*gassed on sight

But wait, I’m certain I heard some stupid nigger telling people that some other nigger invented the internet. Are you implying that he was wrong?

>Implying anyone cares about Japan

>murdered on site

aka one of the few regions where streaming games is actually viable.

this is untrue. As poorfag i can tell you that after a period steam offline play stops working and will lock you out of about 70% of titles since they require steam to be running. its been about as short as two weeks and as long as a few months for me.

>steam offline doesn't work shitpost #32591