Bungie is now self-publishing Destiny 2 on Steam
The base game is Free-to-Play and is monetized with sales of expansion content, similar to The Elder Scrolls Online
So now that we're going to have a loot shooter with good gunplay, is there any reason for Borderlands to exist?
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>Destiny 2
>on Steam
Great. More trash crowding up the catalog.
The game uses a centralized account system. If you own Destiny 2 on battle.net you're going to be able to access your account through the steam version. You'll also have access to any expansion content you bought through battle.net
Never mind the thousands upon thousands of rpg maker games.
>steam
even more fucking stupid decisions from Bungie
should've been Epic Store instead since that's the future where pc gaming is headed
This is based beyond words.
>the future of gaming is a store that's going to shutdown before 2020 because everyone just pirates the exclusives and there's no other reason to use the store
please don't bait the newfags
Is this the dedicated Destiny 2 shilling thread?
So in order to have all the content, I need to buy Forsaken right now then wait for the annual pass to come out right?
This reads like trying to make me buy the game twice mr marketer.
Anyone here still play? Last time I did I used nameless midnight/positive outlook/origin story. I'm wondering what the newer weapons worth getting are since I'm way behind the times and don't really know where to look for this info anymore
>Epic
>the future of pc gaming
thats not Stadia
if it was free right now I could have considered buying the upgrade when it came out
sept has other releases
>This reads like trying to make me buy the game twice mr marketer.
I did a googling and apparently everything you have bought in the battle.net version will carry over to the steam version
you don't need to buy the base game again either since that'll be f2p
Everything that's free is the cancerous garbage part of the game. If you want the content that turns it from trash to mediocre to perhaps good, you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money.
Future of my pirate voyage
>So now that we're going to have a loot hsooter with good gunplay, is there any reason for-
I just got Borderlands 2 with ALL THE DLC plus a whole extra game I'm not going to bother with for $4.79. I'd still have to pay ~70 goybucks just to get the DLC for Destiny 2.
Plus I can mod Borderlands 2 for varied and different experiences each time I play.
We now are able to equip special weapons instead of being forced to use two primaries. That is, you can now use a loadout like a pulse rifle (primary/white ammo), a shotgun (special/green ammo) and a machine gun (heavy/purppe ammo). You can delete enemies much faster this way. Also, fusion rifles recently got huge PVE buffs (something like 40% damage increase across the board).
ESO isn't free to play
It's only like 40 burgers for the rest of the content silly
>is there any reason for Borderlands to exist?
Does offline play count?
Oh hell yeah I was unaware of that change
>similar to The Elder Scrolls Online
I don't understand where you dumb fucks come from
There are also kinetic special weapons so you can have something like a kinetic sniper rifle, energy hand cannon and a heavy.
What sort of load out do you think most people run with? The one you mentioned?
>similar to The Elder Scrolls Online
Is that really the first example that comes to mind?
You can't read can you. If you have only Destiny 2 now you effectively own nothing come september. If you own Forsaken/Annual Pass then you'll have those when it transfers. If you have none of that, then all you need to buy is Shadowkeep, since the base game is free and Forsaken/Annual Pass will be irrelevant.
Big if true.
Yes that's a typical loadout. Scouts and autorifles unfortunately underperform nowadays, and it's all about hand cannons and pulse rifles for primaries. There is one SMG that is dominating. Shotguns dominate special weapons but with the new fusion rifle buff we might see more of those. Heavies are best with MGs.
There are of course a lot of exceptions in exotic weapons and some pinnacle weapons but there is a decent amount of variety to go through.
>if you want content that makes it good
Most of Forsaken/Annual Pass updates and improvements were rolled into the base game. When the game goes live on Steam you can just buy Shadowkeep and skip all of the old shit if you don't want to play it.
It as auto aim.
Dropped
If you use M/KB it does not, actually
(You)
Obviously. But since Forsaken is not included in the pre order offer for Shadowkeep, its best if one never bought it to buy the complete collection for 40 bucks rather than 99 right now then get the annual pass, which will go apparently for, you guessed it, 40 bucks IIRC. The pass being unavailable right now.
But if you want the preorder content you have to buy on steam for 60 even when its a waste of money if you already own the previous expansions minus Forsaken.
Now I don't know why anyone would want the preorder content but this is the way they sell it.
No I can. They are trying to sell the game twice.
>He didn't experience the bullshit of QBB during Forsaken
Not looking forward to all the casuals crying about how they can't get some of the best weapons in the game without actually working towards it.
Mountaintop and Recluse will be nerfed by then.
Hand Cannons do have some auto aim even on M/KB.
Buying Forsaken if you intented to wait till steam release is entirely you *choosing* to purchase old content so you can experience it for whatever reason, be it the story or to access the raid for weapons/armor. If you own all that shit, then you don't have to buy anything but Shadowkeep. Just wait until you can transfer your data over to steam and then you'll have everything.
Weapons have projectile assistance. Some have more than others, QBB had the bonus given to Linear Fusions combined with a stacking bug that gave it essentially 40 percent extra. All it really does it make the targeting hitbox slightly bigger.
is destiny 1 worth playing before getting this?
I don't even remember heavy MGs being in the game. Thanks for the info user I appreciate it
I'd recommend watching a story summary if you want (though there is one in the game). Much of the lore can be found on www.ishtar-collective.net if you want to just flip through it.
They were added back in with Thunderlord, then two were introduced in Black Armory (one was for christmas and then it was gone). Gambit's Wild added another, Opulence added two more.
>tfw reading the new Calus lore
I am scared for our future, that dude is batshit insane and I used to think he was a cool dude.
>man sticks his dick in darkness juice and becomes a nihilist when he used to rule an entire arm of the galaxy
what's his fucking endgoal man
Speaking of which if I buy forsaken or the new one amd I going to get black armory or opulence or whatever the fuck seasonal content they had?
Forsaken gives you the forsaken story, dreaming city, tangled shore, raid and all that stuff.
The Annual Pass is separate and gives you Black Armory, Gambit's Wild and Opulence which just released. This only really matters if you want to play now, though.
His endgoal is to be the last living thing in the universe before "the end," and our guardian will be the second last. He is absolutely convinced that there is no stopping whatever it is that he witnessed, to the point where he will exterminate 90% of a civilization to "liberate" them from the pain and suffering. He is hellbent on enlightening (forcing) everyone else to live in the present and endulge themselves in their desires because there is no hope for a future.
The only reason we are allied with him at this point is because he will help us in our fight against Savathun, and because humanity and the Awoken would be wiped clean from existence if we were to fight him.
So do you think it's worth it to get any of the seasonal stuff in addition to the expacs?
wew all the epic shills ITT
>Epic shills
>implying it's not console shitposters pretending to be PC players
That trash at least has some soul
>similar to ESO
user people actually play eso now they know that's not true
I been trying to get a dirt cheap deal on Destiny 2 and all it's DLC, but now they're just gonna raise the raises on Steam.
I'm not even gonna waste my time with it anymore.
>Destiny 2
Wow, that game I played the demo/beta of on battle.net two years ago and was very generic and bad is now coming to steam. But hey I already grabbed it while it was free on battle.net last year but have no reason to play it.
Why though? Destiny and its sequel are grindy console trash, there is no pc fanbase to be driven off.
Do you want to have access to all the armor and guns and exotics present in that content and bring forward into the new stuff? If so it is. The community as a whole is about to get a whole lot fucking bigger too.
Well I know all that, whatever he saw must've really fucked him up considering who he was before.
>game gets even cheaper to get into
>"its more expensive, fuck"
What
>huge pc commuity
>no fanbase to drive off
:thinking:
They're eliminating grind in Sept, or at least it will be very minimal. They want people to be able to get into the game quickly, where the "endgame is the game".
Also out of the 104 teams that cleared the recent raid in the first 24 hours, only 1 team was on PS4. The rest were on PC.
But can I say fuck the primary and special ammo and wield three green guns at once?
I really like destiny 1 and can't wait
>Do you want to have access to all the armor and guns and exotics present in that content and bring forward into the new stuff?
Point taken. Thank you for the help user
The third slot is always heavy but the first two can be green if you want. But yes you can have two shotguns/sniper rifles if you want (there are also heavy shotguns/sniper rifles so you can technically have 3). On the flipside you could go double primaries again if you want for some reason.
Problem with that is your ammo economy will be tough since green ammo is more rare than white.
You can wield two green and one purple if you want, though that would be very ammo inefficient. You start by splitting the base, and any green ammo you acquire will be split between both weapons unless one is full.
Destiny 2 was hot garbage. One of my biggest regrets.
>he plays destiny
Top laff
I've done the 3 shotgun meme before unironically in Last Wish, it works because of raid banners and also since there's not too much trash to worry about.
keyword here is: was
>bought the Legendary edition a few days ago for 30 dollars.
Fml
>base game free
>cant find it on steam
??
17 september
Comes out in September you dumby
>just like, buy more stuff bro it makes it all good
no
>releasing a month before death stranding
another great call bungie
I dropped the game after Forsaken, before the annual pass content started dropping. I own Forsaken, is it worth jumping back into yet or do I wait for September?
no tux, no bux
Epic store doesn't have hunt and snare so I don't care.
I see no problem with releasing a game a month before a movie comes out
>releasing a pc game one month before a ps4 exclusive movie
oh no whatever shall we do
Anyone who does not own the game is meant to buy now, then keep on buying later. For a game meant to go free to play, this is scummy.
Anyone who wants to actually get the future content right now and already owns everything wil have bought the game multiple times over, even rebuying old content they already own. This is the same thing they have been doing since the beginning, making people buy the game multiple time.
Of course you dont see a problem, you're defending Destiny. Those blinders are on tight.
Do you have the anal pass?
BA was okay, worth going through forges for weapons and also the raid. JW was dogshit, I skipped it. It's a bit too early to tell for Opulence but so far I like it. Menagerie is really fun with light raid-like mechanics, and the new raid is fun but difficult.
>can only buy Shadowkeep but not Forsaken on Steam
This is all really confusing. I have the game + season pass but not anything else, I have been waiting on a deal on Forsaken because I don't want to pay full price but they keep glossing over it in favor of Shadowkeep, so I'm lost
>expecting a PC crowd
>not a dota, moba or mmo
Yeah no
>destiny 2
>loot shooter
>bullet sponges
>good
no
Why don't you read the product description before posting. Fucking retard
What the fuck are you talking about. If you own everything now you aren't rebuying anything, you dumb fuck. If you don't own the game now, you can CHOOSE to pay for OPTIONAL SHIT. Everything relevant when the game goes free to play and Shadowkeep drops costs either NOTHING, to play the base game and do stuff or 35 dollars to go RIGHT to current content, skipping everything entirely.
>bullet sponges
With Forsaken's weapon update you can delete big yellow bar enemies quickly. Not nearly as spongy as Borderlands enemies.
>35 dollars is a ridiculous amount of money
Christ, get a fucking job.
buying forsaken is only necessary if you want the exotics/stuff in forsaken, otherwise you can just get Shadowkeep. Forsaken will be outdated content but because it cost a lot to make and has a lot to it they feel its worth to keep a pricetag on it.
I'm richer than you and don't throw money at shit.
aren't the only bullet sponges bosses? Doesn't each elemental type actually matter so you can destroy shields or whatever in a few shots? I haven't played since release
I don't. Is it worth it at any particular price?
I'd really rather talk about ESO desu
Everything's been decent, but slow. Lots of good weapons and stuff to find too.
I'll pick it up once my college refunds me.
Thanks, user.
>There is one SMG that is dominating
which smg is that
>Steam
Why would Bungie literally choose bankruptcy.?
>bought ESO forever ago for 5 bucks
>had fun but my friend left me alone
>quit
>now convinced another friend to get it
>he gets Warden for free on top of morrowind and i don't
this upsets me.
Recluse, it'll be nerfed eventually probably.
>Destiny 2
>good gunplay
Bungie sucks dick at making things that aren't Halo.
>looter shooter
>not borderlands
Imagine playing an unfunny borderlands. Jesus Christ I couldn't do it.
Name games with good gunplay.
whats the campaign last boss name again?
They should release it for Steam right now, people would unironically buy it, and the future expansion...
Yeah I do want the stuff in Forsaken, it's just I think it's too pricy for what it is and how long it's been out, along with Bnet's shit regional price.
Shadowkeep on Steam right now is a fraction of what Forsaken on B.net costs at the moment and I wanted to see what the pricing would be for Forsaken on Steam but they didn't put it up. Then there's the annual pass which I don't know how it works to muddy the waters even more.
Or maybe I'm just stupid.
Unironically Arma 2.
Which one, lol
Borderlands has always had more meaningful content than Destiny in weapons and locations and expansions. D1 and D2 water down their loot because of their terrible pvp modes.
>Imagine playing an unfunny borderlands
user Borderlands is already unfunny. You're 13 years old if you think claptrap is funny.
no.
>looking for realistic gunplay in a game about killing bug aliens and fat aliens
why
>Epic can't even make shillbait anymore because Google is shilling their own gimmick harder
Epic can't do anything right
They're planning on lowering the cost of Forsaken and (maybe) bundling it with the Annual pass come September I think. Basically Forsaken was a half of year content launch, Annual pass was about nine months experiment. In essence Forsaken is by itself, the pass contains in it 3 seasons worth of content. If you want the stuff for completion reasons, it might just be best to wait for a bundle or the confirmed price drop.
gary
You are just too jaded user, it is okay to crack a smile once in awhile. Are you so desensitized to things that only cuck porn and cunny posting makes you smile?
Yeah I guess I'll wait, It's just kinda frustrating they keep glossing over the Forsaken situation.
>Richer than me and think 35 dollars is a ridiculous amount of money
Okay pal.
No man, Anhony Burch is not a funny guy, and they let him set the tone for the franchise. It's embarrassing to play. Playing Persona 5 is somehow less so.
>the only reason for buying borderlands is that they're throwing it out at a foreclosure sale tier of discount
nice
forsaken doesn't matter after shadowkeep launches, dawg. It hardly matters now, I don't know why everyone is reeing about this
are they still going with that stupid-ass MO of making perfectly good content completely obsolete after new content comes out
god damn
glad I never bought it, and now I might actually play it (on ps4)
>releasing it 4 days after borderlands 3
Here's your (You)...
Because I'd like to play the story content
But why? Story content isn't why people play Destiny.
If the new friends are expecting story content from this game........ yike brother
Because I hate the pvp and honestly I play most of this shit solo. I've never raided as well. I just really like the gunplay and the world is super interesting to me
well youll be getting, crucible, gambit, strikes and all of the year 1 content for free as well as every raid and raid lair released in year 1
Then you're playing the wrong game dawg. They're moving away from releasing story missions in favor of endgame activities/ways to progress your character.
no they arent retard, bungie is splitting from activision so they have to gtfo the blizzard store
yeah the bullet sponge argument is pretty outdated. only huge bosses are that spongy anymore
Ya this will definitely be the straw that broke steam's back.
That being said they are making a lot of the content solo-friendly. Recently solo players can do forges, gambit prime/reckoning, and the new Menagarie with matchmaking. There will certainly be stuff to do for solo players, but I wouldn't recommend expecting story content
God imagine all the fresh meat in crucible, thats the best news about all of this
So let me get this straight as somone who owns all the current DLC for Destiny 2 on battle net.
If I buy Shadowkeep on steam, it will link with my battle net profile and I will have all of the DLC?
yes
they said in the stream that all of your licenses, will carry over in september, but its unclear how this works just yet. Id wait because i bet you will get a discount on shadowkeep since you own everything already
>Heavies are best with MGs
>not using an aggressive frame GL with hard launch, spike grenades, velocity masterwork
Good enough thread i guess
0-4 buy memelands
5-9 pirate memelands and seed for a year
Not really. for every single good RPG Maker game that manages to be a halfway decent RPG or bend the limits of the system to make something completely new and innovative, there are 900 more shitty horror and OC fanfic games with clashing graphics, piss-poor gameplay and horrible plots. RPG maker has as much soul as Go-Animate
>seeding
What a cuck
they are leaving battle.net because they split from activision. anything you had before will be the same after. it might even work out in your favor monitarily
post more lore you cowards
is it still on the blizzard store ?
Post you destiny weapon-fu
but it's been free to play for a long time already and that includes on pc.
but thats wrong cunt
At least I'm not burch or madcuck
>payed the deluxe edition that game with curse of osiris and warmind
>it's now free
>practically wasted 150 dollars
I hope they give some sort of compensation or discount the DLC
Don't think so, they have sold the base version for like 10USD though, to bait you into expansions.
you'll log in to the same game account through the steam version, so nothing is lost
Yeah I know you can link accounts, I'm just seething that they made something free I payed over 150 dollars for. I hope they give a discount for people who already bought the game on the new expansions
>USD
Well here in the land of free, that is europe, it's been free to play on pc, xbox store, i dont know about the rest, but for us yes it's free. Including expansions up until forsaken, if you want forsaken and more you gotta pay.
>free to play
how badly did they fuck up?
Welp. I guess that isn't surprising
Did you even watch the announcement?
"We need an EPIC new partner our game... We are proud to announce we are launching the game on STEAM."
They literally dabbed on EPIC
What I want to know is what Calus will do after we kill whatever it is he saw for "the end." His entire character is based around his knowledge of that. I suspect we will have to kill him afterwards.
I used to think he was cool but the whole Match Confessions chapters are making me doubt our safety under him.
You could buy the base game on console for like 10 bucks
Bungie had enough of chinese companies fucking them over
Can you link it? All I'm seeing are literal whos making videos about it
I don't really mind them making it free, as that's closer to where I value it than the $100 I spent. However, them not giving discounts or anything just means I'm not playing that shit as I've already spent enough on this garbage.
The same shit as IOI is going to happen.
Another publisher will soon take control.
See
Have a (You) and a PSA
EPIC GAMES STORE IS CANCER
BRIBERY IS NOT COMPETITION
Thank you!
lmao. RIP my fellow xchads that couldnt get a day 1 completion.
No problem buddy
idk about new expansions but combat is pretty uneventful
you have your gun, a bomb/spell, melee hit and ultimate ability
thats it from what i remember
there needs to be more abilities and spells considering its a "mmorpgfps"
Yeah they really...they really owned epic with that sick burn.
>They're eliminating grind in Sept
Did they not say they were making it more RPG-based?
> where the "endgame is the game".
This is the most zoomer fucking mindset.
I only played the first raid in D2 when it came out, are any of the other raids still just "get your 6 man group to spin around pat their head and say the alphabet backwards" type shit or did they actually make some interesting mechanics
Last wish was pretty good, hardest destiny raid to date
The primary complaint from me and my friends with Destiny was the excessive DLC but the game itself is great. The game jumps from a 2/10 to an 8/10 just by not having to pay for it.
I'm out, Yea Forums.
we buying or nah senpai>?
lmao proof??
senpai
why did "ƒam" get auto changed to "senpai"?
They can't even make a Halo game anymore, the last good one they made was Halo 3.