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The Chaos Child Syndrome twist is supposed to be a metaphor for the information divide, since the patients are unable to see the truth about their condition. But yes, I agree it's kind of a dumb twist.
Yes, it's included in the Japanese LE

Nono worst girl.
Senri best girl.

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>The Chaos Child Syndrome twist is supposed to be a metaphor for the information divide
I could accept that if they didn't undo it in the end, but they did undo it, while the information divide could really never be removed until all the people using old info methods die. It's a nice concept, but they could have done it without such a literal and ugly twist. It just felt like such an asspull, why even bother with a twist that by design can't have foreshadowing, doesn't change anything plot-wise or character-wise, and is undone soon after it's revealed?

I liked the true ending too, it just felt like they threw in a throwaway plot because they wanted the true ending to be longer. They could have went with the exact same plot with the "disease to cure" being JUST the gigalomaniac powers going haywire and putting them into comas, because all of the main characters affected had powers anyway. Instead they say "haha your waifu is ugly and oblivious". Like, even "Nono" had it, when her power by default should have overridden that?

I can see it thematically can fit with the whole "delusion" aspect of C;C, but they handled it so fucking poorly imo.

It is kinda dumb the way it's forced into the story, but it's pretty relevant to the themes and message of the game.

This was too much, it felt forced. C;H hand in the box was 100 times better.

I just wish the foreshadowed it like at all, I haven't replayed the game yet but generally you get some "oh shit, that's why X was that way" moments as soon as a huge twist hits, but I got literally nothing but confusion at this twist. They could have had some simple foreshadowing, even just one of the scenes from Kunosato's perspective early on could have had some since she wasn't affected, she could have had a throwaway thought-line about having to wear the uniform because people group her in with "those things" would have been fitting enough with her character to not instantly raise red flags but still at least count as minor foreshadowing. It's like 70 hours of content, surely they slipped fucking something in there, yeah?

I skipped C;H because I was told C;C didn't need C;H first, but I feel like reading C;H might be a waste with all I know about it already. C;C doesn't give a super in-depth rundown on the final cases of C;H, and the wiki seems fairly lacking, how do they do that scene in C;H?

i want her to step on me Yea Forums

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The protagonists receives a box in the mail, he calls his sister and her phone starts ringing from it, he freaks out and has a breakdown for 10 minutes, then when he finally has the courage to open it he discovers his sister's disembodied hand.

I don't remember any hints either. The main problem to me isn't the lack of foreshadowing, it's that it makes the whole setting confusing. Like, you have people that have mindfuck powers, some have the disease, some have both. It gets pretty messy when they try to link the two.

Biggest problem to me about Chaos games is that horror usually end in the first half. Hotel scene in C;C was fantastic, I was genuinely feeling tension and was kind of scared to press forward.

The setting confusion got a whole lot worse for me when they reveal that Wakui apparently isn't diseased and yet he has powers? I haven't read C;H so maybe it's something left over from that, but I was under the impression that the powers were linked to the disease as you implied, but Wakui is fine without explaining any more than maybe a hint that the "true giglamaniacs" are immune, which might have made sense if Wakui didn't call MC-kun a fellow true gigalomaniac, since MC-kun had oldtimers disease too

It makes a mess of the world for sure, foreshadowing would have at least helped it fit the story without being an asspull though. Like, this takes place in the same world as other Sci;Adv worlds, and I could see psychics being hidden away just like time machines and shit, but if the disease isn't hidden how come it's never mentioned in other Sci;Adv games when logically that's a world-shaking event taking place in the same country in relatively the same time frames? It's highly hinted several times that Kunosato is buddy buddy with Daru at the least, so Daru should know all about those diseased kids that don't live too far from him. I don't know, it just feels like sort of a mess, which was a shame because I did genuinely enjoy most of the game, and mystery stories are always my favorites. It felt like they ran out of mysteries but wanted something to toss into the true end anyway.

Same here, I'd love a VN where that level of horror keeps up the whole time, at this point I'm just waiting for Higurashi's remake to get finished and I hope it does justice to horror.

>spoiler
yea, i got confused by that as well. The best thing i can come up with is that her new form looks normal at the beginning but gradually starts to deteriorate after a while.

i didnt like the twist either, but there was some foreshadowing.
youtu.be/akE3o8VxKjY?t=2660
there are other moments like this where those not affected act differently toward them, but i really dont feel like searching them, to be honest.

>youtu.be/akE3o8VxKjY?t=2660
forgot the timestamp. 44:20

I recommend Phenomeno, it's very short around 2 hours because it was supposed to be a promotion for Light novel, but it's the best horror VN I've experienced. It must be played during the night and with headphones.
Unfortunately full version never.

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>Noah never ever
It hurts

In C;H there's no "zombie disease" in sight and every characters has his magic weeb sword, so there shouldn't be any link to the C;C syndrome. Or maybe I missed something.
Also, now that I think about it. Why does the photo of Nono and Serika looks clean to both the hero and Serika? Shouldn't a disease that completely fucks your vision of the world gives you trouble to identify pictures? A photo is not the same as seeing someone in front of you. Like in Saya no Uta, the main character should have a hell of hard time seeing anything on that picture.

I think I'm missing how that's foreshadowing even knowing the twist. You're linking the scene where Kunosato shows them the two bears high fiving image on the PC, but unless I'm missing something she's being a dick to MC because he's a gigalomaniac, which was already known, because she hates gigalomaniacs (and not just ugly people, she hated Wakui too, but didn't seem to mind Serika as she didn't know she was a gigalomaniac).

Also, thinking back on it, Serika was fully affected by the disease, right? I know she wasn't anymore in the true ending, but I was under the impression she "healed" after the common route ending. She was in the school, after all... why would she be allowed in if she wasn't a known patient or scientist? Kunosato never seemed suspicious of her going to school there.

The photo thing is just a lazy way of them saying the disease is too strong and even override pictures, automatically overriding anything that could hint at reality

Now if they wanted some true big-balls foreshadowing, what they SHOULD have done is had the MC see the picture with Nono and Senri sitting in opposite positions and poses, basically having reality know that Senri is actually Nono and forcing the MC to see the photo that way without his knowledge, adding a mystery into the game where a viewer with a sharp eye will realize the 2 CG are actually different between the scenes where Nono sees it (since she knows what the photo really looks like) and MC sees it (since the true nature of the photo rocks his reality). That alone could be justifiable foreshadowing for the end twist, directly hinting not only that Nono twist but also that the perception of people is off.

I still have hope, people who released S;G0 and C;C patches on PC are supposed to be working on Noah, but we still don't know if that project is even alive anymore.

About as alive as Miyashiro and Onoe's relationship.

>*spoiler* was fully affected by the disease, right?
No? The guard lets her enter the school even tho she is a perfectly normal girl. She was a VIP of Wakui, helping him with the plans of the Comitee of the 100 or whatever is the name of that thing.
It's a pretty big plothole that Kunosato never acts on it, it's funny I've never noticed it.

Shit, so I interpreted it completely wrong because I assumed Kunosato wasn't retarded. Why the fuck DID Kunosato never act on it? You'd figure as a scientist at the school specifically to study the students, she'd notice the 1 student she constantly sees that doesn't fit in. Like, wouldn't that instantly be the most suspicious thing possible? With how paranoid Kunosato is about the Committee of 300 the first thing she'd think when seeing such an obvious plant would be that if she's pretending to fit in but not a scientist or doing any sort of work, she's up to no good. Especially with the whole plot of People murdering gigalomaniacs, you'd suspect anyone in proximity to that school that doesn't fit in, and that lead would pretty quickly get you to investigate several people that are actually guilty.

Sorry Kunosato you drop to the dumbest waifu tier, even the fake figured it out before you and she didn't have access to anything other than the volume slider on a publicly available video.

>hey, let's spend the majority of the game with a new main cast wondering how these "impossible" murders could have happened and slowly re-discover shit that is obvious to anyone who played the first game
Chaos;Child is the worst kind of "we want to appeal to both old fans and newcomers alike" sequel. It's just a retread of the first game to the point the game even makes it relevant to the plot, but most of the denpa aspects that the game still likes to pretend are somehow mysterious or disturbing, are now completely inconsequential. Then there's the compulsory side routes that go way off tangent from the main plot rather than exploring it from alternate perspectives, to the point it's clear they only exist because we're contractually obliged to have a route for every girl and the devs needed to somehow pad out the content to match the asking price.