So offense or defense? What the patrician choice?

So offense or defense? What the patrician choice?

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offense is almost always the right choice

depends on how fast the offence is

>What the patrician choice?
Playing something else

I slightly prefer shield wolf's design, but they're both a bit messy. The cgi trailer looked pretty bad but the official artwork is also slightly better.

Game freak did drop the ball though by not making the box legendaries based on a lion and a unicorn.

Defense is more satisfying.

The best defense is a good offense.

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they look boring as hell
we already had a four legged mammal as a legendary in s/m

They both look retarded in game. Very sad when the concept art is great and actually looks unique compared to their other legendaries in the past.

There was a very early rumor that they would be a wooden horse and a metal snake. I was praying so hard for a steel/poison uber with levitate.

problem is they already did a sword unicorn

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And X/Y

There's already a unicorn pokemon based around swords. It's called Keldeo and it looks fucking stupid.

No legendaries, only Corviknight.

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I don't really like either design but Sif is better than not-Sif

>The one in the right has fur shaped like a shield
Ok
>The one in the left is literally carrying a sword
Retarded

best design so far, this thing should been a legendary

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>not calling it Nevarmor

Literally just Mareep but less interesting lol

People seem to like it a lot more than Mareep, though

The true legendaries are the Pokemon we fell in love with during our travels.

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>UK setting
>Have a bunch of mythical creatures they can base the legendaries off of like the Scottish Loch Ness Monster or an Irish faerie or a Welsh dragon
>Make two more boring dog legendaries
What the actual fuck is wrong with them?

>gogoat with wings
No thanks

SPEED

>Blue is my favourite colour
>I like defence because it needs brains, not like mindless DPS

>Mareep
who

>should be a legendary
It is a taxi instead ;_;

Not really sure why. Like Mareep was a sheep but at least there was some twist to it, even if it was minor. This is literally just a sheep.

>Kill your opponent in one hit so defense doesn't matter
>Take one damage per attack but barely do any damage
The choice is clear

Sex

>
Don't actually get to see it's feathers because it's model is so low poly and devoid of texture it just looks plastic

ITS UNIQUE
HE ROLL
HE WOOL
HE VIKING BRAID
HIS FUR GETS BLANKET MADE

A tail isn't really much of a twist.

True, but sometimes movesets can play into it. Especially debuffs and stuns on the enemy.

you just know his evolution will be a fatter, less cute version of him

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Opportunity missed!

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They're going to be pure dragon or pure psychic, with no relation to steel whatsoever.
Calling it.

>unique
They're the bastard children between gen 2's catdogs and gen 5's muskeeter trio

will shieldmon even have the highest defense in game

>The one in the right has fur shaped like a shield
That's clearly plating, idiot.

the developers are japanese and probably don't know anything about british mythology

Don't care about legendaries, haven't used one since I was a kid playing Yellow. I'll make my decision based on exclusive mons.

Defence, so Shield is the superior version to get.

unironically the best pokemon

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don't design pokemon when you're hungry i guess

Wikipedia? Also it isn't uncommon for devs to travel to different places to get inspiration.

These are fucking ugly...

CA-CAW!
CA-CAAAWWW!~
Heya! TOOKI! TOOKI!

Defense wins games kiddo

I'm buying the one with Great Wolf Sif and naming him as such

I'll go with shield because I know that my autism can't handle the way that sword wolf will always have a sword in its mouth even when it speak or whatever.

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>Not picking sif
I hate Yea Forums

>Irish legends in a region not based on Ireland
Also these are only the box legends, user. There's plenty of legendaries that we won't see until release.

their art director is a british gaijin

fanart usually add some artistic license

keldeo is one of the worst pokemon ever though
god gen 5's legendaries were a fucking trainwreck

I was gonna go with shield because I prefer bulk and defense and shields but shieldoggo looks so STUPID

Thats incorrect though because Defense is explicitly in retaliation to offense

When you're defensive, it means you're prepared to counter said offense.
A stronger defense will counter a good offense

For example, if you're very aggressive and never let up, you can still be evaded and predicted.

Defense and Offense arent the same approach, this saying is fucking retarded.

Generally speaking offense is just plain better due the QoL, either you win fast or die fast and sine you finish fights faster you level faster, no matter what you just waste less time and it promotes staying on your toes instead of facerolling.

But in the case of these two Shield is strikes me as more appealing. Shields are also the cooler "Weapon".

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The legendaries tend to always be my least favorite every gen, but this really takes the cake. Did they really need the wings and cotton candy blue colors? They're lucky normos will buy based on brand and ignore the hideous boxart.

er.. maybe not the best. I meant my favorite.

HAHA, FUCK YEAH

>Wanting another lion

The saying means that by attacking, and keeping the pressure on your opponent, that they'll be too focused on defending against you to have time to attack back. Alternatively you can interpret it as the concept of deterrence, ie having a strong military makes other countries wary of invading you.

>if you're very aggressive and never let up, you can still be evaded and predicted
Hence "a good offence". If you're getting predicted then it's a bad offense.

Reshiram, Zekrom and Genesect were cool

Yea but everyting else was a garbage fire, just like gen 5 in general

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Wolves are the most boring fucking thing they could've think of, Jesus

>That spoiler

Eat my ass Gen 5 had the best bugs

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I kinda like Kyurem for the BROKEN DRAGON ZOMBIE concept, i mean, i mean it looks like a shambling "weak" husk in base form and that is what it is, and it looks like a unbalanced mess when going Steven Jewniverse but i figured that was the point.

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Fuck you mate, gen 5 was the last decent gen before pokemon forever nosedived in quality

this

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I meant the other legendaries, not the pokemon in general.
It still has the highest amount of bad pokemon out of any generation but there's still a lot of good ones too.
lol

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I also like Kyurem AND its forms I'm a digifag , I just didn't want to admit it.

>swordmon sig attack will probably have high crits/ignore defense
>shieldmon sig attack will probably be protect + def/sdef buffs

Shieldmon for me

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Going back to your containment board

>Implying Whimsicot is one of them

Eat
My
Ass

Because it's new, literally the only reason.
There's been 3 sheep mons and this is the least interesting
>mareep
>that grass type thing in gen 5

>Likes donut butthole
>Doesn't like whimsicot
I mean, scolipede is pretty good too but what the fuck are you on if you don't like whimsicott

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>ny setting
>have a bunch of things you can base mons on like the fearsome critters, native american mythology, urban legends like mothman
>base everything on china japan, and europe
It's almost like gf doesn't actually make mons to fit the setting

Let's be real here, it might have the highest amount of Bad Pokémon, but that is partly a product of having the most New Pokémon period since they had to for the "No Returnees until Post-Game" gimmick, honestly i think that if you put GenVI and VII together you get roughly the same ratio of bad/forgettable Pokémon, it is just less noticeable since they don't cuck old Pokémon out of the spotlight, so you can just go use Geodude or whatever.

And really, Gen V LOVED Bugs, that alone is pretty big bonus right there.

Gen V had misfires for sure, but honestly considering the scope and that it actually kinda had to enforce "Mandatory Pokémon Stereotypes" to replace old ones instead of GIMMICK FREEDOM of the later it did better then people give it credit for.

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Then maybe don't use the UK as a setting?
If you don't want to do any research then don't even bother.
It's unova all over again
>first non-japanese region
>first region to use japanese school uniforms
>the entralink and abyssal ruins are based on the tokyo imperial palace and some ruins near japan (masuda said this in nintendo dream)

Mareep is the only thing that's close to wooloo, gogoat is a goat and while it's not ugly or anything it's not overly cute.
Wooloo has big goat eyes that make it look cute and make people want to protect it.

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No they weren't
>more dragons immediately after the gen with dragons
And did genesect even do anything or have any lore at all?

>but honestly considering the scope and that it actually kinda had to enforce "Mandatory Pokémon Stereotypes" to replace old ones
this wasn't a good thing though, you shouldn't actually do every idea you have, because a lot of them aren't going to be good. If they wanted to have a gen with "only new pokemon" then they could probably do something to try and work with that, but what they did instead was lower the QC and just put out even more than gen 1 had
and hell the Mandatory Pokemon Stereotypes weren't even the bad pokemon that gen, unless the simis are replacing something I'm unaware of.

>box legendaries based on a lion and a unicorn

Could have had the third version have a dragon if they did this

Yes, like a cartoon sheep.
But every gen has this shit so whatever
>pidove
>pidgey
Well maybe only gens 1, 5, and 8.

Who the fuck gives a shit about myhtical pokémon lore?
And yes, he did. He's a prehistoric insect pokémon that was discovered and rebuilt as a robot

>Wooloo has big goat eyes that make it look cute and make people want to protect it.
That's the most autistic thing I've ever read

>But every gen has this shit so whatever
what the hell do you think pidgey and pidove have in common with wooloo?
Why do you think that's autistic? Liking cute shit isn't autism you retard.

>highest amount of Bad Pokémon
Gen 1 still wins this desu.

In many areas of life a strong, well placed offense negates the need for a defense entirely

>Liking cute shit isn't autism you retard.
It isn't, but you type like a retarded child.

Only because UB's aren't Pokémon. Yes i know, im joking about how GF was shilling them as Non-Pokémon before the release of SM.

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Nah, it's gen 4.
>all those old ones ruined with shitty evolutions

Gen 5 has like 15 or 16 iirc.
Gen 1 has like, 3 or 4 if you want to push it
The simis alone outnumber every conceivably bad pokemon in gen 1.

They're both just boring literal cartoon animals with nothing interesting about them at all.

But Electivire is better than Buzz.
Zone is better than Ton
Tangrowth > Tangelo
I don't think a single person in the world liked Togetic.
Weavile is great.

>Likes tangrowth
>Thinks people didn't like togetic

Seeing people turn their opinions on gen IV (and V) around as time went on was the funniest shit. Bidoof is cute with cupcake nose though.

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>it might have the highest amount of bad pokemon
So it's the worst dex, there you go.
Fuck off with your excuses, the fact is gen 5 dex had the most bad ones by your own admission.

You basically listed all the decent ones, apart from Porygon Z I guess.
There's still shit like Lickilicki, Ambipom and Magmortar.

pokemon designs are so fucking stupid

But first people would have to even care for Aipom or Lickitung.
Which are both just awful pokemon to begin with.

Remember when Electivire was OU.... :( I miss those days. 100 speed (or 90 I don't remmeber) Earthquake, thunderpunch, icepunch, I fucked people up in D/P.

I don't like either of these dogs. I'll have to see which Pokemon are exclusive to each version to decide which one I get.

Don't talk shit about my nigga Aipom. And I always liked Lickitung just fine.

I hope Zamazenta has a broken defense status.

>Which are both just awful pokemon to begin with.

Sorry, thought you hated Whimsicot
Love that bastard

Only if you don't think in RATIOS. Higher base value means more bad ones, more good and passable ones too. I had more fun discovering and testing new Pokémon in V then VI and VII, so that makes that "Dex" more fun to me, doesn't mean i will forgive Monkeys and Genies though, so don't get me wrong on that front.

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>This thread hates based Buzzwole

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I don't. I think it is a shame it got hoisted with the shitty and botched UB concept though, it is basically the only good one.

I only like him and Celesteela. She's too "robot" for me to hate

>>This thread hates based Buzzwole
who the fuck said that

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I prefer Zacian because the fins on its back fly off and attach to the sword, it's neat.

Same here. I always pick the second version anyway so it's not a big deal.

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I can't tell which is worse. They are easily the weakest legendaries, and I am not at all a Genwunner. The other Gen 8 Pokémon look promising, and the last three Gens all had good legendaries, particularly Gen 6. Not sure what happened.

Is shit, this will be the first gen that I will skip.

I didn't grew out of pokemon I simply realized how pathetic and lazy the games are when compared to it's competitors, namely SMT, Digimon, DQ and YKW, all of them are better, with more love and effort put into them.

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What the fuck is YKW?

Yokai watch.

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>Switch in with Hippowdon to activate Sand Stream and negate your ThunderPunch
>Switch to Garchomp with Sand Veil and BrightPowder
>Dodge your shitty IcePunch and use Dragon Dance
>Delete your whole team with Earthquake

Heh, nothing personal kid

>They are easily the weakest legendaries,
*blocks your path*

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>gen 1 was the best the designs are simple and look like animals
>this pokemon sucks it's just a sheep
Will you faggots make up your mind? Why can't you just enjoy something for once instead of hating everything you see just to hate it.

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Oh.

>and the last three Gens all had good legendaries, particularly Gen 6.
I hope you aren't saying gen 5 had good legendaries

Gen 1 was absolute shit

Fuck off. Zekrom and Reshiram are way better than Dialga and Benis

Why even bother with these games when you know they'll just make a second version(s) where the shield wolf wield the sword in its mouth or the sword wolf gets a shield. These are probably the worst box legendaries Pokemon has ever had, they're so similar.

XY didn't get third version(s). And USUM didn't really do anything special.

>These are probably the worst box legendaries Pokemon has ever had, they're so similar.
This right here

Dialga is better than any of them
3>4>7>6>5 for main trios

Araquanid eats them all for breakfast

If the leak got it right, they're the same pokemon with a different form. No idea why they have different names if that's the case, though.

Offense. The thing can't hurt you if it's dead.

>4 or 5 colours

Delusional

>These are probably the worst box legendaries Pokemon has ever had, they're so similar.

I kind of agree. On their own, they're great designs. As box legendaries, it's just like... seriously? One is a blue/gold/pink dog with white legs, the other is a blue/gold/red dog with silver legs?

>No idea why they have different names if that's the case, though.
It's not like that's a new thing

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Silvally? More like SilBULLIED.

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>Brainlet can't handle five colors in one character
Really, dude?

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offense for fun in single player, defense for winning on smogon

Looks like shit. Especially when it is 4 or 5 colors in stripes

>mfw I had a para/flinch/confuse Dunsparce back in Gen 2
>umbreon curse+mean look+battonpass on that thing
>whooped the entire school's ass with that shitty combo
>normies literally seething
>one nigger even tried to break my gameboy once, got fucking expelled
god I miss high school

MUH

Wow those Pokémon look stupid as hell.

It all depends on how you use it. Maybe if they kept the red more subtle on the shield wolf it would look nice

The best offense is a good defense.
That being said, video games will almost always prefer offensive tactics. Speed, more often than not, is the absolute best stat in multiple games across multiple genres.

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>Pokémon /ss/

Based