Diablo 3 - Holy fucking shit

Diablo 4 will have to be the most metal hardcore shit imaginable or this franchise will tank. Holy fucking shit I cannot believe a bunch of jews managed to sink fucking DIABLO.

I doubt you can make metal hardcore now adays with the current political climate.

kek, well then they're fucked.

All blizzard had to do was put a teaser trailer for D4 after the immortal announcement and this whole fucking ordeal would have been avoided. Hire me for marketing Actiblizzard

>make metal as fuck game
>ignore the 10 people who scream at you
Easy

That would mean they would have to actually make Diablo 4 and all of the talent fucking fled Blizzard a long time ago. Don't forget what they tried to pull with Diablo 3 and has to walk back; the Real Money Auction House.

Wait WHAT HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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Did anyone even use that site? D3planner is so much better.

>install D3 once more
>19 users active in chat
alt+f4 -> uninstall

One of them is my stupid ass father who still plays every season. He only plays 2 games, Civ and Diablo 3.

I thought Diablo 3 was trash.

Really?

Truly. I have no idea how my mother still tolerates him. She must feel immense shame being married to a man with terminally shit taste.

Chat is layered you idiot

cope harder blizz drone

It's simply how it works, stop being retarded just because you're wrong.

>.001 cents have been deposited in your account

>There are retards defending this shitshow on the forums.
Motherfucker, some cunts just don't learn, do they.

D2 still has about 250 active players

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he still piped tho so

who else /switch/ here?

>The place looks like Chernobyl
Chernobyl looks peaceful and empty.

They have every right to hate Blizzard for Immortal, but you also need to understand their mentality. They are not really sane people. They STILL play Diablo 2, claim it's the besh hack n slash RPG, refuse to play anything else, they just want Diablo 2 experience, and if the game that captures the feel of D2 appears they will shit on it because it's a blatant copy.

Basically, they are retards.

For me Diablo 3 was killed because of the online-only requirement. This killed all modding which is what kept Diablo 2 alive for far longer without Blizzard needing to invest anything into it. Imagine how much cooler Diablo 3 would have been if you gave fans the ability to add things.

its fun playin it in the bed.

Couldn't put it any better. D2 fags are the worst.

Grim Dawn just got another expansion though

Grim Dawn isn't good enough.

Do you guys like Torchlight?

Not me.

If you look at the D1 and D2, they're basically mobile games. I didn't play D3 but I'm sure it's the same - you click on shit, it does, and you get treasure. You could port D1 to a mobile device and it would be indistinguishable from an actual mobile game albeit with shittier graphics.

I seriously think Diablo fans getting outraged haven't sat down and taken a hard look at the game series they so love because it doesn't matter how many bells and whistles you attach to it, 90% of the gameplay can be accomplished on a phone. Same with Path of Exile.

fuck off dipshit

The first one was okay, it made me think the series had potential

Than 2 was absolute shit

Out of curiosity why not? I think the only thing it doesn't do as well/better than diablo or PoE is boss fights. A little too basic

Not enough variety of gameplay. Even though your choices for what you can do are far less than a good ARPG the choices you do get aren't balanced enough to compel different play styles. Lack of loot that stands out to change the way you approach the game just highlights this problem even further. The end result is replayability is stunted.

I enjoyed both games. I have about 200h on 2, but that's about it. Wish I could say the same for D3...

Titan Quest is really good and it has 2 new expansions made in 2017 and 2019. Game is still alive and well

:(.

Really? What did you hate about 2 so much?

Immortal is and will remain utter refuse in the eyes of anyone who enjoyed the previous games in the franchise. I don't think there's any saving it.

I think the franchise itself is fine as long as Blizzard were to make an excellent Diablo 4, assuming they're even capable of doing something like that at this point. I think a good D2 HD remaster with high-resolution, remade sprites like what they did for SC would also be received very well if it remains faithful to the original and is only a graphics update that's designed to run on modern hardware and software.

I'm not wrong. And if a phone screen is too small for you, then a tablet. Tap your potion, tap your skill bar, you don't need to manage your inventory they'll just get rid of that and have auto-pick-up.

a good and measured post on Yea Forums, woah

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GD is the best ARPG at the moment but since its online is TERRIBLE and the engine is SHITE it will never eclipse the success D2 had. item and buildwise tho, its superior to a fault.

You want 100 persons writing in chat all the time or what?

>Really? What did you hate about 2 so much?
He's just being contrarian

No. You are wrong. Kiting+using 4 abilities + potions and whatever else at once on a phone or tablet would be near impossible to do with any amount of fluidity. A horribly stripped down version could work but not a great diablo game. That's why people are so pissed.

Yeah man just like Starcraft. Just tap on the unit, tap where you want it to go! Tap on the building, tap on the unit you want to build! All mouse-driven games can just be ported to a smartphone, will play great! I bet they'll port Starcraft to phones soon enough and we'll see mobile players jackhammering their phones with their fingers and beating the 600APM Koreans. Just tap the screen bro!

this is my phone bro, can I play diablo here?

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I'm gonna be honest here. I dont care if you call me reddit.

Who cares about Diablo Immortal? Just because a game gets a mobile entry doesnt mean you cant enjoy other games in a series. The game might even be fine. I was anti f2p for a long time but In og into Warframe and Path of Exile pretty regularly.

Why is Diablo 3 hated so much? I just started playing it and I'm having a blast, granted this is my first Diablo game.

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seriously. This retard is the reason dev's are force feeding people their shit because they unironically think like this, and he's so stupid he does too. Fucking gross.

Money is being diverted away from a better game from the series. That's the problem. It's not one plus the other. It's one or the other; and Actiblizz is choosing to invest their time, money, and effort into a mobile game. Not an actual ARPG. You're willfully misrepresenting the issue.

>granted this is my first Diablo game.
that's the reason you're liking it a lot more than others

I thought it was fine at launch. Now though I don't like how your build is decided by whatever set you wear, which will be random which you complete first.

It's still real fun. No reason to hate it.

Really? I remember having fun playing it, but it came out ages ago, didn't it?

They raped the atmosphere of the game. They took away making real builds since you can always change them out assuming you're not in a rift or whatever. Other than that I think it's an upgrade for the most part. The grind is way better in 3 than 2 imho even though nostalgia fags will not agree (d2 is my favorite and I have tons of nostalgia for it), but doing Baal runs over and over is worse than doing rifts. Rifts can be quite fun and I randomly have a kick to go back and play some.

Also no PVP sucks, no modding sucks, RMAH was a horrid idea, vanilla d3 was unplayable past Torment 2, etc. The game is way better now than when it first came out, but D2 is still superior.

and 240 of them are spambots

Let him enjoy whatever he wants and chill a bit. He has to tolerate child like you.

>They took away making real builds since you can always change them out assuming you're not in a rift or whatever

so builds are only "real builds" if you're forced to plan out every single skill and stat point beforehand and have everything set in stone?

d2 got respecs btw and nobody complained

>He has to tolerate child like you
No he doesn't. Believe it or not, not everyone here is some underaged zoomer.

I already factored out the 750 spam bots senpai

are you retarded? poe sucks monkeydicks but GD DOES have P2P online, which is why it's fun and moddable (another word you plebs dont know fuck all about).

mxl is why d2 is such a good game, fggt.

Not him but builds coming from the sets isn't you coming up with anything. It's you looking at the bonuses and using the skills it says that it increases the effectiveness of by 10,000%

why is people hating PoE so much?, I played it years ago and tought that the atmosphere and gameplay was top notch, what happened?

What "issue" why do I care where they put their money? Are you an investor?

you should care, the way a company invests their money tells a shitload about them, actiblizz doesnt give a rats ass about the fans that have supported them over the years, all they want is to cash in some chinese money.

this

I just treat d3 as a roguelike while playing on hardcore mode. Leveling a fresh character and making due with what you find is always the most pleasurable experience.

Because if they put their money and effort into shitty games you won't play then the end result is you have less good games to play. Are you really so fucking retarded you can't understand this? They don't have infinite money and resources. Instead of making something you could enjoy they're making shit you will hate. I'm a customer and I want companies to make decisions that benefit me. As a customer you should want this too. If you're ambivalent for any reason then that's perfectly fine, but don't adopt the stance that you want them to make bad decisions unless you've got some mother fucking reasons to back that bullshit up.

>Fans of Diablo wanted a good game.
That's where they went wrong. Diablo fans wanted a good game, but they're too fucking stupid to realize that Diablo was never good in the first place.

The vitriol over Diablo Immortal was even dumber because Diablo was finally putting that trash franchise on a platform it belonged.

Bro, back in the day when D2 was new, it felt like dark souls, all metal, dark, and heavy as fuck, this new one feels like some Saturday morning He-Man cartoon in comparison.

You went through the trouble to post this like anyone gives a shit you don't like the games. If you don't like the games then your opinion about what should happen to the games is as irrelevant as it gets, retard.

Sorry for not being stupid enough to like a brainless hack n slash loot treadmill Skinner box, faggot. Posting here on Yea Forums is a much better use of your time than playing Diablo trash.

I've given up on any hopes for the franchise.

At least D2 is still fun.

You're not listening you fucking idiot. You're allowed to dislike the games as much as you want. That's your prerogative. The issue is you think anyone should listen to your fucking opinion about the future of the series when CLEARLY the series isn't appealing to you. You are the LAST person who should be listened to, but you spout your opinion as if it's worth the time it took you to spit onto your keyboard. I don't even play these types of games anymore. I'm just acknowledging why fans of the series would be pissed off that the series is being butchered. You should understand that too, but you're too busy talking about your fucking feelings as if we're supposed to give a damn. If you have no horse in the race then you should learn how to keep your mouth shut. Are you going to double down and insist that YOUR opinion about something you DON'T like should dictate where the series goes from here and not the actual fans of the series? Shut the fuck up, faggot.

It's alright as long as you don't give a shit about endgame. PoE's endgame is total fucking cancer with only casters being viable and everything one hits you so you have to have billions of dps for you can skip as many insta kill mechanics as you can before the server desyncs and you die randomly

>Another shit taste zoomer thinks his opinion is worth something
Kill yourself

Dark Souls/Bloodborne does the Diablo atmosphere a thousand times better than nu-Blizzard does.

Actually I'm the first person who should be listened to, since the collective IQ of people who play video games would significantly trend upwards. Slack-jawed retards like you are responsible for paid DLC, microtransactions, lootboxes, and all sorts of other fucking cancer that have infested the video game industry.

Your precious little grind simulator series has caused untold damage to the video game industry and I'm advocating for its eradication in an effort to improve video games as a whole.

>Zoomer
I was playing video games when you were in diapers, bitch.

Nioh 2 should be good. People bitched about the loot but the loot is one of the major factors of the game.

Doing something better than modern blizzard besides somehow still having a deluded fanbase isn't much of an accomplishment, sadly.

That's what I thought. Do your best to shift the topic to something completely irrelevant and inaccurate to try and hoodwink people into thinking you're correct. You're assmad as fuck that I highlighted how much of a fucking retard you were being by excreting your mindless feelings instead of actually discussing the topic. You just couldn't help yourself. You just needed to shitpost. Your opinion about the future of the Diablo series is absolutely, 100% irrelevant. Play different games. Don't try to act like the series needs to change to suit you, a person who doesn't like the series. That's asinine and bullshit to boot since you wouldn't buy any Diablo game no matter how much it changes to suit you since you've obviously controlled by your own biases.

tl;dr: Nobody's fucking fooled, retard. You got blown the fuck out because you thought this thread was about your precious feelings. Learn how to fucking read threads accurately before you start mouthing off like an ignorant swine.

Report: Blizzard is cancelling a StarCraft FPS to focus on Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2

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People don't have a problem with gore and grimdark. It's tits they don't like.

its sad. all they wanted was a proper game. it has story characters gameplay and potential and they keep fucking it up like they did with the current one and the mobiletrash one

>tfw Grim Dawn is the best ARPG on the market
>tfw the head dev is immune to greed
Feels GOOD man

>to something completely irrelevant and inaccurate
Irrelevant and inaccurate? Do you not understand how blatant of a Skinner box Diablo is? It doesn't even attempt to hide it. You're so addicted to it that you don't even realize how much damage it's done to you, everyone who plays it, and the video game industry at large. You are proof positive that video game consumers are mindless drones that will eat up anything as long as you dangle a carrot in front of their faces. A normal person capable of independent thought would have slapped the carrot out of the way and punched the person offering it to them.

>Don't try to act like the series needs to change to suit you, a person who doesn't like the series.
I'm not, you retard. I'm saying that the series and all games like it should die. Take your own advice and learn to read.

I understand that this post is pasta. What I don't understand is why.

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Diablo 3 was a Giant Pile of Fucking Trash. I'm mad I wasted time on it more than the f'n money.

and they're not even doing the diablo atmosphere!

We need to save Diablo.

All I see if you yapping about how you want to control the future of something you don't enjoy, as if your opinion matters more than the fans of the series. You're fucking retarded. You don't dictate what other people spend their money on, you delusional faggot. Don't try to paint the Diablo series as the smoking gun that turned the industry into a shitpile. That honor belongs to hundreds of different games made by a hundred different developers and publishers. A game a skinner box styled reward system is a far cry from the cancerous elements currently plaguing the industry. There's a huge gulf between a gameplay design and a monetization model. The fact that you're trying to turn this thread into a discussion about that speaks volumes about how fucking stupid you were to unleash your unwarranted, irrelevant opinion. You can cry as much as you want, but your opinion about what should happen with the Diablo series will never matter to anyone. Not anyone on Yea Forums, and definitely not Blizzard or Activision. You have no power because you are putting nothing on the table. You're just bitching into the ether like an impotent little pussy.

Damn, it's really that dead? Private servers have more players than that.

Even die hard fans are getting tired of the game after almost 20 years

Alright cool but it's still sensationalist misinformation.

>Just end it all
And leave forever.

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>All I see if you yapping about how you want to control the future of something you don't enjoy, as if your opinion matters more than the fans of the series.
I enjoy video games, which is why I'd like to see the video game industry improve. Killing Diablo and games like it moves in that direction. Also, I'd say my opinion DOES matter more than some retards that contributed to causing the problem in the first place.

>here's a huge gulf between a gameplay design and a monetization model.
Not really, since said gameplay design directly lead to those cancerous monetizations models. The success of Diablo and games like it helped to showcase to publishers and developers how stupid game consumers actually are, which let them easily get away with cancerous monetization models.

Your continued emphatic replies about how pathetic I am are all I need to know I'm right. The truth struck a nerve.

Dude, shit is fucking grim.

>I'd say my opinion DOES matter more
You're wrong.

>Not really, since said gameplay design directly lead to those cancerous monetizations models
You're welcome to explain to me in actual detail how you logically arrived at this conclusion. You're going to have to provide actual, legitimate examples of how games like Diablo led to the problems the industry is plagued with today. You're not going to be believed without evidence. Explain yourself. You made a claim. Show me how you reached it. Show me the direct line you seem to think there is between a game rewarding your time incrementally and all of the problems the industry is experiencing.

You won't do this. You won't even attempt it. You will run away from this prompt because you have no legitimate case to make. You will pretend like you don't have to back up the bullshit you say. Your response to this post will be you exposing yourself as the fucking retard you are. In order to try and distract the people who bother to read your stupid bullshit from the fact that you spouted an irrelevant opinion as if it mattered you're trying to turn the Diablo series into a boogeyman responsible for a bunch of shit you don't like.

You should be ashamed for being so fucking retarded. You should be feeling as mad as you are right now because you were justly humiliated by me in this worthless thread. Keep your stupid fucking mouth shut unless someone asks for your opinion since CLEARLY you put absolutely no fucking thought into them.

Literally the good game just not a good x game meme. No one denies that d3 is fun to play, but it has a fraction of the depth d2 had and basically streamlined the experience. That's fine if you want a lite dungeon crawler, but the depth is why people are still playing d2 today. Its Diablo arcade mode essentially, which is pretty good if it's your first Diablo but as a d2 fan, this shit hurts.

And then they doubled down and went to fucking phones, are these designers just cynical about things? Like "Streamlining" the franchise until it literally dies?

>You're welcome to explain to me in actual detail how you logically arrived at this conclusion.
I already have. Read my posts, which is something you've completely failed to do. Diablo proved that people are dumb enough to buy a game with zero actual progression so long as you just dangle a carrot in front of their faces. The entirety of Diablo is built around the idea of clicking on monsters so that you can click on monsters. There is nothing more to it than that and there never has been. The fact that it copied the shit out of Ultima 8 with not even one-tenth of the depth of Ultima 8 (ironic since Ultima 8 was shallow as fuck) doesn't matter to retards like you. All you care about clicking on monsters to watch your little numbers increase in amount. You'd be better served by something like Cookie Clicker since it's the same shit but free.

Retards like you that proved Blizzard could get away with selling such a shallow, meaningless game to consumers allowed publishers to think, "oh hey, what else can we trick these morons into paying money for?" This isn't a difficult thing to grasp for someone of even average intelligence, but Diablo fans such as yourself have always shown you're inept.

Hell yeah. Both are great. Not so excited about frontiers (the open world torchlight mmo) and how they're pushing the child friendly artstyle to 500%. Curious to see how it sounds without Uelman's musical genious as he makes the arpg experience for me. Wasnt a fan of PoE because of the lacking OST. Got one ranger to level 90~ and just cold turkeyed it after that.

Yet fans rebelled with immortal

This is not enough. This explanation is not sufficient. This does not explain what you claim. This is not evidence that you are correct with your assertion. You need to do more. You need to draw the direct line you claimed exists. Insisting it's all because inexplicably a company had some sort of undiscovered eureka moment that customers like feeling rewarded for their time is not an adequate answer. Not only is that not a new concept, but it's not a compelling enough explanation to lead to the conclusion you stated. Even if what you're saying is taken at complete face value, that's STILL only the first step. You need to further go on to explain how it reached the point it is today while correctly attributing it all to Diablo.

You can't do this because Diablo isn't responsible for this shut you retard. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel shape trying to justify the presence of your worthless opinion in a thread that has nothing to do with the opinions of non-fans. You were blown the fuck out and you don't have a single avenue left to explore to defend yourself.

tl;dr: Shut the fuck up. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion about the future of the series. Your attempt to make Diablo responsible for all of the bad things you experience in games today is ludicrous and you're being mocked for it.

and it seems we're not gonna be getting one anytime soon. Chaosbane is dungeon siege 3 tier console trash. Wolcen is a fucking mess. Last Epoch is meh. Lost Ark is korea and just gonna be the next MU Legend. The only good one i can think of that's fun for a few playthroughs is Chronicon

This.
You could do some funky shit in D2 with equipment that gave you access to powers you otherwise wouldn't have, and most stats were at least somewhat relevant for every character.
D3 on the other hand emphasizes getting a statstick because almost everything for a character scales off one specific stat so if you roll something other than that you might as well throw the loot in the trash.

You get 3 freebies, once per each difficulty completed then can earn new ones by farming each end game boss. Diablo 3 lets you respec any time creating no sense of character indentity. If you tried to respec a hammerdin into a smiter without an entirely new set of gear, weapons, and charms youre character would be unable to function.

That's because of the obsession with balance due to the online-only nature of the game. Any event where something would be considered fun or overpowered, despite how rare or difficult it is to obtain, is nerfed to the point of irrelevance. The end result is everything ends up feeling exactly the same because nothing you can ever do will allow you to excel too far beyond an average player. D2 was fun because you COULD break it with overpowered things. In D3 all of that fun is circumcised.

>game has Skinner box elements
>therefore is responsible for Skinner box monetization that swept industry more than a decade later

The thing about a Skinner box is that they exist to exploit natural behavioral tendencies that exist in humans. You don’t actually need to be exposed to or develop a taste for them before wanting to engage in them. But you’d know that if you were interested in actually engaging in critical thought, instead of just looking for an excuse to talk shit about a game you don’t like

What about that WASD one? Seemed kinda cool

Mostly salty nerds that use Diablo as a skinner box math simulator. They want D3 to be D2 in every way. There can be no deviation, no trying anything new, not difference in playstyle.

D3 isn't perfect, but neither is D2. D3 is fun enough to play during the seasons. You don't need to have to play it every day all year round.

that what one? Pagan Online? Haven't tried it yet but doesn't look anything special so i wouldn't hold out any hope there either. Reminds me of Vikings - Wolves of Midgard, which wasn't very good

Stop defending watered down garbage.