Everyone said this game was shit but I've been having more fun with it than pathfinder...

everyone said this game was shit but I've been having more fun with it than pathfinder. it's way better than the first game at least. what gives?

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you're retarded

I named my character captain slickback. "a pirate named slickback" was too long sadly.

>turn based

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>our visuals are shit
>just throw up a hundred different menus at all times to block their horrid sight
>next lets make it turn based so we can finish this joint and take a nap

I'm sure this was once funny and ironic, but the dust has settled and you're simply in need of having sex

turn based is saving the game. if it was rtwp I wouldn't have even started it.

Wait, did they add turn-based combat to it? It might even get 6/10 from me like this. Gonna try repirating it.

AYOO HOL UP

Considering how the first was an absolute mess because of it, I see that as an improvement.

>it's way better than the first game at least.
it is
Yea Forums doesn't like it, because nowadays Yea Forums is just /pol/ with video games, so they get triggered by tranny and faggot characters hitting on their character

It's not shit, plays better than 1 even if the writing is noticably worse.
It got a pretty decent reception on Yea Forums whwn it first came out, but it died pretty soon after and the only people talking about it were the obnoxious lariannigger and the obnoxious anti-lariannigger (possibly the same person).

Yea Forums got outraged because one of the characters is bisexual

>I've been having more fun with it than pathfinder
anythings better than pathfinder. Pathfinder is no fun allowed - The Game. Either you minmax or you die.

Just like in the tabletop then

>rich fantasy niggers the game

sadly yes

turn based sucks. no exceptions

t. 70 IQ nigger

Pillars 2 has better mechanics than Pillars 1 but unfortunately encounter design is way less challenging (and power levels which were a dumb idea make it even more broken). Fampyr cave was the only genuinely challenging bit. Pillars 1 had more parts where I felt challenged but it combat felt less interesting and the game as a whole was fairly dull. Pillars 2 also has shitty writing, but at least the setting and factions are much better this time around.

Nothing You Do Matters The Game. I wanted a game, not a philosophical essay on nihilism. What the fuck was that retarded story even.

Zahua is the best character on the pillars of eterniy series.

They run on the same system.
Just that the people made this game made the system
Now play literally any other Isometric RPG and have a better time.

>Now play literally any other Isometric RPG and have a better time.
like what? turn based only.

Anything else that isn't fucking Pillars.
Doesn't matter. They are all better than the PoE series.

highly agreed

ugly
boring
tedious

I think shadowrun is pretty good, dragonfall and hong Kong especially.

>Pathfinder is no fun allowed - The Game. Either you minmax or you die.
Lies.

If you don't want to min-max lower the difficulty level. Higher difficulty levels are for people who optimise their builds, run custom parties, etc.

They made the turn based option because the other, much successful game (OS2) had it and was a blast to play, unlike this schizo, spastic RTWP shit that retards love it.

in tabletop you have a GM who can tinker with stuff, bend the rules, etc. to make it work
eg if everyone makes poorly optimized characters he can just give enemies slightly less armor, or whatever

Pathfinder attracts the worst kind of people, including the DMs

Based, p*thfinder is unironically one of the worst ttrpg

What game is this?

But you can also lower difficulty at any time in PfK.

Pillars of eternity deadfire
It's alright

Oh fuck yeah, it got turn based. I'm gonna get it now, I've been looking for a game to fill the void since D:OS2.

>real time is for dumbos
Continue pls

Be warned, the writing can be pretty fucking bad at times.
I still recommend it, but the New obsidian writers are not as good as the old ones.

They had to change the gameplay to copy Original Sin games to make the combat less of an automated snore. As far as that goes, you're not playing the same game everyone else already threw in the garbage.

Also that game is super gay. You really have be careful what dialog choices you make to any given male character because even the most seemingly innocent phrase WILL result in either gay flirting or gay sex and I have no idea why they made the game like this. Why does sex even have to be part of the stupid adventure if this is going to be the result?

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I can recall two instances of men trying to fuck you, Tekehu does it once and there's a text event on your ship.
Am I forgetting some or do two instances count as the game being yaoi eroge?

The recent RPG I had the most fun with was Tides of Numenera. Fight me.

The game was a flop and turn based did not "save" it.

Can also happen with Serafen I think. But it's mostly because the romance is shitty "playersexual" stuff where they'll want to fuck you no matter what you are if you have enough cookie points.

turn based is for people who can't act quickly.
taking 10 minutes to a kill a trash mob does not make you smart, it makes you and old ass boomer that can't think quickly.

it's fucking shit lmao a franchise killer

I wish Josh had fought as hard for no romance as he did for having queers and minorities in the game.

I like turn based but I think it works best in very controlled environments with non-complicated maps
I hate to waste turns just to get somewhere cause the terrain is cluttered

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Fairly close to the beginning, you're chatting with serafen about his freaking girlfriend and if you say to him something like "would like to go visit her?" he goes "heh... I like the way you think, capn. Let's disappear for a moment or two so we can buttfuck and suck each other off."

I'm still wondering why obsidian paid fucking Denny's to tweet about them
I mean holy shit

Jist play divinity 2 instead

It's impossible for the game to flop considering it was paid for by fans. It was all profit.

Link?

But I don't like their art direction

Then get mods

I'll try to find it if the thread is still up when I get home

Nonsense.

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I meant more as in armor and character designs

Yeah the combat is one of my favorites of all the crpgs ive played, havent tried turn based but I'm sure it'll make my experience even better. Cant wait to get nback into it.

Also play on the hardest difficulty, its a pretty easy game if you play on anything less. UNLESS they decided to balance it last time I played, but I dont know. Enable level scaling "always up".

>t's impossible for the game to flop
Then how did it bankrupt obsidian?

>
Also play on the hardest difficulty, its a pretty easy game if you play on anything less. UNLESS they decided to balance it last time I played, but I dont know. Enable level scaling "always up".

Am I the only one that's played it after Josh gave all the "it's too easy" crowd the middle finger and KILLED path of the damned with retarded deflection and accuracy bonuses to mobs?

Again, mods

>you have to mod the game for it to be playable
The skyrim of crpgs

Oh damn, is it really hard now on PotD? Is it still fun? I only played at start. Is it bearable?

I put 100+ hours into it and only got to like level 13, it's painful to say the least. Pretty much every fight either takes autistic levels of management or you need to pop every potion in the game to even hit.

Yep, they must have added it recently. I bought the game last winter during Steam sales and installed it to import my character but didn't start it and it was only RTWP. I recently reinstalled because I now have time to play it and it had the option for Turn-based. I'm only a few hours in, but so far I prefer the turn-based combat to the RTWP combat from the first one.

Here's a hint, a regular drake or miniboss tier mob has more deflection and accuracy than the sky dragon from pillars 1 on potd

The game gets boring really quickly.
Never liked the ship aspect of the game, seemed dull and lazy.
You get so many menial sidequests at the beginning and the story overall is so uninteresting that I couldn't really get excited about going anywhere.
Many missions are so hard scripted in such ridiculous ways that I ended up going for killing sprees (imagine a sneak mission but you kill some random NPC you don't know anything about but apparently if you kill that NPC you can't use a regular item to go on with the sneak mode because the option is not there if you don't go with the NPC).

This is why you have to ignore reviews and dumb shit people say. Learn to make your own assessments and play games based on whether it looks interesting to you.

Oh damn okay. Even with min maxing? I hate retarded high a.c. fights in games and tabletop.

Ah fuck. Ill try it out and if I get too fucked ill scale it down. Is the second hardest difficulty comparable to the old PotD?

Once you hit level 8 (about 30 hours into the game) you became a god on release and could put your entire party on aggressive and fast mode every encounter. I remember being able to do this exact thing against level 16 enemies on potd. The game was fundamentally broken for a long time, that's why it got poorly reviewed.

The party members, music and story/main quest are garbage compared to the first.
The main quest alone leads nowhere because Sawyer doesn't want muh power fantasy

>Even with min maxing
I cheat engined in my own custom cast of characters all min maxed and it's only bearable.
>Is the second hardest difficulty comparable to the old PotD?
Probably

well at least you have the option, I would be the same with original sin 1 and 2 if they added rtwp. sadly they never will so ill never play them

>Am I the only one that's played it after Josh gave all the "it's too easy" crowd the middle finger and KILLED path of the damned with retarded deflection and accuracy bonuses to mobs?
Probably, since everybody else beat the game in a few hours due to how stupid easy it was even on PotD, without even abusing shit like that bow that let you oneshot entire screens.

the gameplay sucks compared to the first game (2.0 or whatever the revamp patch was for the first pillars). its too balanced and lukewarm. I liked broken ass shit like chanters and wizards in general in pillars1. reminds me of old infinity engine games.

>RTWP is "automated snore"
this is your brain on zoom

i keep hearing that there is a lot of gay shit, yet i've never heard if you could fuck eder or not

Horrible writing with no room to roleplay. Cherry on top is the diarrhea of descriptive writing.

One character has a line about his anal beads, that's pretty fucking gay if you ask me

>less party members than poe1
I guess the stupid engine they use would kill itself if they added one more character to the party

They did it because this was supposed to be balance man's time to shine. Too bad they forgot to scale the main quest for two months.

If you want broken shit play monk

Two guys ask if youre interested I think. Thats the extent of it afaik. But its a pretty big non-issue unless youre an autist.

>Cries about artstyle
>Maybe get this mods that changes the artstyle
>Wow I need a mod to make a game playable what a piece of trash

user quit being a baby

Divinity is watered down casual trash

>didn't even got new companions in the DLC's
I would kill for my nigga Rekke or Konstanten to become full companions

why would I play monk in poe2 when I can play monk in kangmaker?

People want to fuck Eder so of course it's not an option. You have to start thinking like a BALANCED Obsidian dev

You did complain about there not being broken shit in deadfire, I'm just offering solutions.
Also then you'd have to play kingmaker

gimme sauce

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Take it easy man

>This is going to be the best game ever, even better than the last!
Game releases broken
>I'm going to take two weeks off and not address any of the community's concerns while I do some soul searching
>Hey guys I'm back, oh you haven't been able to import your saves for two weeks? Woops! Here's a naked furry companion!
>I know it's been a month and the game's still broken, but here's SOME HAIR CUSTOMIZATION! HAHA! YAR ME HEARTIES!
>It's been almost two months now, all you people do is complain, here, I'l break the game. Fuck off and die. Oh, buy the DLC
Game Bankrupts Obsidian
>I don't know WHHHHYYYYYY people didn't like the second game and just LOVED the first

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What's goin on big guy?you didn't give me the sauce

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I've been playing on the normal difficulty and it seems fairly well balanced. some fights are challenging but not like pathfinder where I would be replaying every fight 5 or 6 times.

There was monk is kingmaker? I must have been blind. But yeah monk in poe2 is a pretty solid class last I played. Then there's paladin/wizard combo or something like that which is busted.

paladins are just broken, you can flames of devotion one hit most mobs.

Yeah i remember in 1 having bird lady one shot shit. That was fun.

in deadfire? my paladin does crap damage.

Should I pick this up again? Dropped it after 30 min on release due to boredom, but actually loved PoE1. Side note, Divos2 also bored me. Idk I have weird tastes I guess. But has PoE2 improved?

>Horrible writing with no room to roleplay.
did you even play the game?

>muh graphics
are you stupid? art direction is more than some godrays and shadows you fucking dummy. this is generic shit, could pass for something out of diablo3

Miss Banana

The games biggest flaw is its bad writing, and that hasn't gone away.
It plays fine, and it's not getting any more real patches.

Deadfire is a proper CRPG, and makes use of the fact that it's a game to perfect every system, with kingmaker you might as well just play the PnP, a friend GMing will probably have better combat, writing and locations than kingmaker

I don't want to play with other people

To be honest outside of neketaka there's practically nothing but one-off islands with boring ass encounters.

Oh, here's a few screenshots from my last playthrough a couple months to highlight the difficulty problems

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How much combat is there compared to poE? I felt like there wasn't enough due to lore dumps and ship combat taking up so much space. Did they add more?

Clearly you have not played deadfire. Clearly.

100% accuracy rogues

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Here's the deathguard under neketaka 1 hit koing my entire team.

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Here's probably the worst mob in the game one hit koing my pure damage mage

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I'd say there's a bit more fighting in Deadfire than in the first one, and there's a bench of extra hard challenges they recently released.
They got rid of vacian casting and rest limits, so it's effectively a lot easier.
That being said it's over all mechanically superior in every way to PoE 1 imo.

Here's a miniboss that has about 10 friends that's tankier than my tank and has the potential to one-hit with nearly 100% accuracy

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Those 3 red skulls mean that the enemy grossly out-levels you, so no wonder you got rekt.

I am playing the first one and i am having fun. How is it better? Is it different?

Too bad it's the natural progression of the game for me to be there and I had done all other content

make sure to try the ultimate challenge nerd

There's more combat and more variation. I wouldn't necessarily say it's "better" combat, but there's more to do.

POTD in the first game was set up to be a challenge, not 30 minutes to and hour each encounter.

Gameplay, setting and factions are better, writing is worse.
Yeah it's fun.

Why the fuck is it impossible to make this game run smooth?
Upgraded PC and it still runs like hot garbage choppy and inconsistent all over especially when many spells are going off/ship battles with loads of characters on screen

no one here argues that poe2 is better than 1, its not

The Turn-based thing was only recently added months ago.

Obsidian fell for the Unity meme. You cant run shit on Unity.

>youtube.com/watch?v=xChOXFJ83-g
Don't forget.
>Josh admits to being wrong at not listening to backers
>Still says you shouldn't listen to backers because they aren't the target audience
>Full VO is needed for streamers
>Game didnt sell as well as the first
>Ship combat was the biggest money sink

Nah, you're just a retard.

>Ship combat was the biggest money sink
How the fuck is that even possible, it's so barebones.

>you shouldn't listen to backers because they aren't the target audience
well yeah, they already have their money. So they are not the target audience anymore.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't cheese the game like a faggot and run around one hitting everything and actually played it like you're supposed to

>[Int 2] Oh I'm sorry I didn't cheese the game like a faggot and run around one hitting everything and actually played it like you're supposed to

You're dumb because the game gives you a clear warning that you're under-leveled for a particular quest/monster, and your dumbass is too stubborn to think further than "me here, me do quest now!"

>the gmae gives you a clear warning you're under leveled
>too bad at certain points in the game all encounters and quests are hire levels that you are
Did you even play the game?

did you even read his post?

Kek. You're right. The difference between how they spoke during the Fig and after is a big 180. Especially after the refund period.

>too bad at certain points in the game all encounters and quests are hire levels that you are

Never had that problem on my playthrough. Sorry about your mental problems.

Are you mad because you played the game on easy?

>Game releases broken
You're talking about Pathfinder, right? Because THAT game was broken as shit.
Deadfire was playable from start to finish at launch.

By playable do you mean that it took at least some interaction with the game for you to complete it?

>Ship combat was the biggest money sink
It can't possibly be real.
It's literary a CYOA section
Literally no one but his autistic mind was even interested in ship conbat in the first place.
Everyone would just rush to board.

I have multiple PoTD runs in Deadfire.
You literally can leave Neketaka at level 9-10, and the only "difficult" fights there are in Undercity.
Holy shit user git gud.

Dude i see nposts hating on poe2 saying shit like you can't turn down your gay crew while posting a pic of the dialog options and half of the options is shit like "no" or "get the fuck out of here"
This board is delusional when it comes to sjws

>Having to grind neketaka until level 10

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>Deadfire
>grinding
Are you just pretending to have 3 INT?

Hey man, it's cool that you have to spend 40 hours in the hub before you leave, nobody's judging.

Yeah i guess when you do hardcore grind to over-level everything it does make it quite a lot easier

i enjoyed it for the gameplay but the story doesnt grab me at all, it's so fucking uninteresting

See the video. Josh said himself that he never wanted it but the Upper management demanded he include it. It took so much money because of all the testing and balancing it required.

I don't understand the turnbase.
You only have 1 ap for attacks? Casts have to wait a turn?

Just to give you some perspective, you're supposed to be close to max level when visiting Motare o Kozi. A properly built tank should have ~200 deflection while fully buffed. Your Eder has 82.

Vile.
So in the end it's Feargus being a retard again

actually most of this thread agrees
and i agree, poe2 is the better game. period Poe2 has sjw shit but that's miles better than 10+ paragraphs of dialogs for every little thing like the first game, also multiclassing/sub classes are fun, go fuck yourself

why are you so mad user, nobody gives a shit about how "hardcore" you are

"What is exploring and side quests"? Its a pirate adventure with a new vegas style 4 factions
go do something else and come back later

I'm just saying, divinity is reddit: the game.

explain

Here's my world map at level 11, I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe they lower xp gains or something.

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Yea Forums told him their was 10 funny lines and hes too hardcore for a bit of humor

theres a lot of side quests and content, i don't know what to tell you I left the main city at like level 5-6

Show your quest log

The combat is insulting, it was my first turn based game and my last.

How could anyone enjoy the sequel to the dullest rpg of all time? Each attempt Obsidian makes to create their own universe rather than simply deconstruct a setting made by others, has been more disastrous than the last. Aside from the outdated gameplay and lifeless cities, Pillars of Eternity's only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of combat mechanics, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Sawyer vetoed the idea of making anything at all innovative or original; he made sure the game would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable nostalgia pandering to ageing Baldur's Gate fans. Pillars of Eternity might be anti-casual(or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Divinity series in its refusal of spontaneity, fun and excitement.

>a-at least the writing was good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the narrative was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time I engaged in dialogue with an NPC the game presented me with a Wiki-page style infodump instead of anything resembling actual human conversation.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time this was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Sawyer's mind is so governed by obsession with pointless minutiae of the lore that he has no other style of writing.

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Pillars of Eternity by the same David Gaider. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kiddies are playing Obsidian games at 17 or 18, then when they get older they will go on to enjoy Dragon Age II." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Pillars of Eternity" you are, in fact, trained to shill for Bioware.

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>A kidinity zoomer replied to your post.

is reddit known for turnbased, and whats wrong with turnbased?
like you haven't whats wrong with the combat at all

>Imagine using buzzwords to auto win arguments on the internet
Poltards need to go back

>will go on to enjoy Dragon Age II
even the most dedicated biodrones do not want to touch that game

The customization is also retarded, not to mention the stat allocation, or lack there of. It's pretty much an mmo

Bros...I miss you.

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Based

Yea Forums is shit and only interested in drama and waifus
I loved the shit out of both PoE games.
I prefer 2 for all its improvement gameplay wise but I thought the plot lacked the mystery of the first with the gods now having little to hide from you. However, two of the three DLC delved into really interesting parts of the lore.
A bit sad that we may never get a PoE3, the last DLC really pushed Yezuha as an important part of the engwithian lore and I wish we could visit that since it's the missing link pretty much.

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Holy fuck, you can just tell this guy smells his own farts and takes himself way too seriously. I bet he can count all his friends on one hand and probably takes pride in that fact as well.

>buying the dlc

i need sauce for that pallegina shirt pic bro

>I bet he can count all his friends on one hand
>friends
If you had any you wouldnt end up here

is sawyer the most daddy dev in the industry

i think i'm being indoctrinated because i'm starting to like the look of brosnan's wife

>you can't enjoy Yea Forums unless you have no friends

Truly the oldest lie ever told on this site.

/poedg/ was a lot of fun, short lived as it was.

I mean your wrong, but theirs no way to convince you when your this far into wanting to dislike it
so Alright then

yeah Im sure mr reddit spacing would know

Blame it on the actual trannies

I still remember that tranny discord. How the trannies swore up and down they were going to buy it. they didn't. And they banned Ayoballin.

but you can lower the difficulty respectively in pfk

The dlc is unironically really good tho, and it makes me feel special that I and 100 other humans max will ever get high enough level to play it

I told their leader to kill xirself and was witnessed

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I would have bought it if they didn't release it while the game was still broken

I can't believe how much sway that discord had over the direction of the game. They were basically a board of investors, that hadn't invested a penny (and never fucking will).

I wonder how much of sawyer ditching balance and focusing on gay buttsex was due to them.

They only had so much influence because for whatever reason Josh fucked off to SA and all the other devs flocked to that Discord. To make things worse once word got out that the devs hung out in that Discord the tranny admin closed invites because "Too many new people were changing the tone of the Discord'.

I miss pre release threads as well.
How come Kingmaker general is still alive while Deadfire died so fast?

Because the Deadfire general was full of trannies from the discord shilling for the romances while ignoring the problems

Kingfags are still in their honeymoon phase even after that travesty that the ''enchanced edition'' was. Pillarfags know this series is dead now.

Rymrgand took a big entropy shit on the general and deleted it.

I'll just leave this here

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You're fucking retarded. Yes PoE1 was dull, but PoE2 was badass. Blew Original Snooze 2 out the fucking water.

R-randy? Is that you?

God damn queers ruining my story driven CRPG's

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It has a gay fish in it so it triggered most of Yea Forums.

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When the only thing you live for is being fucked in the ass suddenly everything must be about how much you want to get fucked in the ass.

is it possible to completely solo poe2?
i have no interest in managing retarded companions. also i never finished poe1, lost interest about half way through

Yeah it's doable

Action based RPGs are all mindless. You don't have time in an action based game to think out any complex things. Turn based will always remain superior have sex

PoE2 or kingmaker? Which would I like best if I like DOS:2 and Dark Alliance 1/2

gay fish unironically wasn't nearly as bad as that random side quest featuring two opposing woman fro mdiffrent factions who hate each other and then one randomly blurts they used to fuck
Like why?
it literally didn't add anything
If deadfire didn't have romance, and wasn't so fucking gay it would honestly be a p good time

Yes but it's tough at the start.
Check out this guy, he makes some great solo build videos
youtu.be/YScGv8zKyRE

>it's not as shit as the other options
It's still pretty shit

Shitty writers are generally unable to make homosexual characters without the fact that they're gay being the only facet of them. In the past 10 years I've seen only one tolerably acceptable gay character in vidya, and that's Hammerlock from Borderlands.
Know why?
Because the game doesn't fucking tell you he's a fag. There's no indication unless you go snooping around in his place, like the creep you are.

Hard to say.
I'd say pick up poe1 for cheap and start from there.

There is no skill in rtwp you dumb fucking mutt.

>after that travesty that the ''enchanced edition'' was.
How is it a travesty? It adds lots of nice things and is literally a free update for base game

um user literally half of his side quests involved one of his many boyfreinds, and that's coming from a border-bro who like hammerlock
the best gay character in gaming to me is still arcadia from new vegas

Tekehu was way too much.
>"Eothas give me my body back!"
>Aloth rolls his eyes
>Eder chuckles
>Xoti grins with licks her lips
>Tekehu strokes his dick

action based lets me actually play so it wins by default

*eh hem* buttplug

>Aloth rolls his eyes
this is too real user

>we've gotten to the point that the "muh fags" attitude has gotten so warped fucking BORDERLANDS is praised for "tolerably acceptable gay character"
This site should just die at this point, fuck boomer clowns.

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wtf is that UI? From the thumbnail I assumed it was some cheap indie trash, on closer inspection i'm sure of it, but I assume it's Pillars 2?

They really made Aloth a dick in deadfire, he was a bro in PoE 1 but he's insufferable in Deadfire.

I honestly don't care as long as they don't act all flamboyant or are trying to sermonize.
If two characters being a couple doesn't bother you, then there's no more reason to lose your shit over their genders.

Gay is a mental disorder

PLayed like 15 hours Co op with friends. Way more fun dicking around while the one guy who knew what he was doing herded us along. Other than that this game is good but not my cup of tea sp

>imagine seething this hard

fpbp

>Edér chuckles
>Xoti bites her lip, her cheeks flushed

Exactly, so please check yourself in for your homosexual obsession with a gearbox-created character.

I literally played through it without having touched the tabletop game, with no clue what the meta was, and kept every one of my characters "pure", no multi-classing at all. Priests were only Priests, Rogues only Rogues, etc.

And the literally only part that really slowed me down was the House at the Edge of Time - the Wild Hunt specifically.

Kingmaker is fantastic, you're just a dummy.

>seething
I'm merely pointing out that the UI looks like absolute shit, because it does.

What free Unity plugin did they use to make it? Did it come with that awful template by default?

they weren't bankrupt

it just displays all the info neatly, what more could you want?

The worst part is the UI in PoE 2 isn't even modular like 1, it's such a fucking clusterfuck, you can't resize, move or scale anything.

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>but that's miles better than 10+ paragraphs of dialogs for every little thing like the first game
Year 2019: ADHD runs rampant among the youngest portion of the population.

>all these RTwP haters
wtf? The base gameplay was surprisingly one of the better things of PoE2, pretty much an improvement all around from the first, I dunno how anyone can say the turn-based mode is better.
What a waste of resources, Should have used all that time to fix the garbage story. easily one of the worst Crpg stories ive ever seen and I have played a lot.

I hate this kind of shit.

It was like this when they added in megabosses. All of them are basically just stat pumped with three flat attacks to waste your time. You really only beat them by going to the forum to get the cheese, like crossbow interrupt spam for the slime idk what he was called, monk/priest accuracy stack spam for the robot etc

its a game thats either never challenging or so tedious that the solution is just one of a small handful of specific things that if you don't have, you're fucked

>he biggest shock came when the matter arose about paying back employees (not the owners, but our employees) who had given up their paychecks to keep Obsidian from going bankrupt. When we did start getting money in the bank again after this bleak period, however, the company’s spending began accelerating again. This made me uncomfortable, so at that time where our finances became healthy again, I brought up that since we had the means to do so, we should pay back the employees who gave up their paychecks to keep us going. My comment was met with silence by all the owners. I repeated the concern, but when I brought it up again, Feargus simply said, “we never promised we’d pay the employees back,”

>"We're watching dozens of people clear out their desks and leaving, a lot of people who had worked here for years and years," said Sawyer.

"For me, and for the other guys at Obsidian, it's doubly bad," added Urquhart, "because it's a public statement of failure." Everyone knows, publishers know, and the blame is all aimed at Obsidian, the company in all of the pain. Suddenly signing a life-saving project became exponentially harder.

"We were all coming to work just to come to work," recalled Adam Brennecke. "We weren't actually working on anything. You feel like a lost soul."

I like rtwp but find 3 maybe 4 party members to be the best and anything more feels like a hassle of micro-management

oh hey how nice to see my collage posted.
too bad the general died soon after...
pic is the v2, with some requested additions

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>On 14th September 2012, the crowdfunding campaign for Project Eternity was launched, and Obsidian did hit it out of the park. Now Obsidian readies Pillars of Eternity for a 26th March 2015 worldwide release

>Chris "kickstarter milestone" Avellone

it's shit because no GM and no durance.

i want poeg back bros

Deadfire is just too boring to elicit discussion while Kingmaker is pure 3.5e tism.

>poeg
but /poeg/ is still alive bro... play legion

Post yfw Obsidian was kept alive by us and then committed seppuku with gay fish immediately after.

>lets make a sequel but lets not include the best companions
what were they thinking?

GM wasn't that fun.
I'd rather have Zahua, shit, I'd take a letter from Zahua. I just want to know he's chilling.

How the fuck do I remove the self insert OCDONUTSTEEL fanfic NPC's from Pillars 1?

I'm playing for the first time and this shit is absolutely ruining it beyond belief.

Also why is the world so fucking void of NPC's that aren't backer NPC's?

They wanted to erase avellone from the game.

the best companions were literally all 4 males
they forgot the Orlan
they fucked over durence
They made aloth unbearable
and turned eder into a cuck
but don't work lads bird bitch is still here, and just as unbearable as the first game

>GM was not fun
>I'd rather take the greatest c u c k in the game instead

>thinks people who are older than him and not senior citizens think slower than him
Yikes lmao

The whole story took a hit. It went from sort of serious and interesting to more of the same mass effect quirky and whimsical unfunny nicolodean sitcom shit

go into a bar
2 godlikes and a man named "the vulture" is in the corner
Yikes

Source of Pallegina pic please

>Either you minmax or you die.
>picks unfair difficulty
>complain that the game is unfair
why are people so fucking retarded?
if you don't like how hard the game is, play on a lower difficulty, the game has a billion settings to allow you to customize your difficulty however you want.

>OCDONUTSTEEL fanfic NPC's from Pillars 1
like who?

Based

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Fencemaker made a better character than you, deal with it Chris.

REMEMBER WHEN THAT FOX BIT EDER IN THE FIRST GAME?! WASN'T THAT FUCKING HILARIOUS?! OK EVERY SINGLE ENCOUNTER HE DOES THE SAME THING NOW, LOL!

What game is that?

Why the fuck PoE2 is like 55 gigs while OS2 is only 30? I don't fucking understand.

game's dead anone.
Going to be replaying it soon now that everything is out and there will be no more updates.

What's legion? I see a ton of games named that.

Hidden programs which are turning the fucking frogs gay by using your computer to spread gamma rays

One new thing is Obsidian trying to undo all the Tumblr shit.
Woedica tells you the Gods are acting like retards for your sake and when oyure not around they act as they did before.

It has the same problem as fallout 3/mass effect 3 where because of the writing it feels like everyone is teetering on the verge of insanity. No one cares about bad stuff happening around them, everyone just starts taking gore in their stride and still has time to make 99999999 jokes about petting dogs and fucking my ass

Que? What is legion amico?

I'm a few hours into Tyranny, and I don't know if they have the exact same writers, but I've already found one example of this. I asked a party member who is fused inside a suit of armor if there was any way to remove it, and he made it sexual for some reason despite being an aristocratic honorable knight. The dialogue has such an inconsistent tone, where on one hand the characters speak like in an old fashion like you would expect in a fantasy world, and on the other hand they will lapse into modern language. But the writers can't do either one.

>spoiler
that makes me deeply annoyed

PoE2 was most fun cRPG for me in years.
I currently playing Divinity 2 and i just fall asleep after 1 hour or so. Party members here are so fucking non-existant, they literally have no character at all.
Also fuck turn based combat, RTwP is THE way.

It's the exact same writers. All of them are the same.

user are you joking right now

See Tr(r)anny is the reason a lot of people were weary of Deadfire. Especially when they announced who the writers were. Personally I think Megan Starks who wrote the Assassin dude in Tyranny can be solid as a writer. Just don't let her touch anything regarding romance and have her character be uninterested.

I am not.
3.0 gives you a book where you can meet her in private. She tells you the Gods never act like arguing children when you're not around. She gives a lot more backpeddles too.

>gods=fags
how is that a spoiler?

Like fucking all of them.

The tavern i'm in has like 4-5 of the fuckers, they're like every second fucking NPC and it's been like this from the start.

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depressing considering you actually have to think to play them

ah you mean these? you can just ignore them, they aren't necessary for progressing nor to they give you quests or anything.

Tfw they used to be more like forces of nature and now it's like being forced into a discord server full of teenagers
>tfw that burning book after how mysterious woedica was in 1
>woedica is calling..

Pallegina is cute and her voice makes my peepee hard

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just ignore any npc with a gold name

UGLY NEW PORTRAIT

So, who plans on tackling the Ultimate challenge?
>This challenge, “The Ultimate” will turn on all other God Challenges, Trial of Iron, Path of the Damned, and Solo mode.
>The challenge is not for the faint of heart, and only the most devoted and erudite of our players stand even a chance in this challenge, but the first twelve players to triumph will be immortalized in Obsidian's studio lobby for all to see. The first twelve Watchers to succeed at the challenge will get their names and their Watchers' names, classes, and levels upon our Deadfire Ultimate Challenge plaque hanging in our lobby.

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ew nipples

It looks especially bad with the watercolor filter
The fuck was the reasoning behind that

>arguing over what kind of whack a mole is better

we all know neither matters of the encounters are designed like ass

Berath is kinda hot, don't you think guys?

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sauceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I guess I need to replay the game, because that's fucking ricardo retardo.

>Buying combat only dlc in a crpg

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You can mod out these retards, huge QOL improvement.

Thank god they made her into an anime waifu instead of a rotting corpse

???

>gee Berath why did you call me from the dead for this?
>its not like Im the only Watcher around see theres this really cool guy I met at the White March that-
>oh?
>I see
>I like you too Berath

>He doesn't want to hatefuck all six of N'gati's fish titties
Ekira, you are a pleb

whats the mod name?

Is this game rtwp or turn based like dos?

can you glitch?

fuck off gay fish

RTwP of course, turnbased is cringe

you have to send them your savefile plus a video of the whole thing for review

for me its skaen

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>video of the whole thing
yeah not gonna bother

>RTwP

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Discord was a misteak

I think it's called patchwork launcher, it's been a while since I played but it's the top file on the PoE nexus.
It was lots of cool QOL improvements, you can turn off weapon particle effects, toggle capes, faster fast walk etc.
There's a deadfire version as well, the faster fast mode is really useful when you red to cross the entire map.

Wouldn't a video of an entire ultimate playthrough be rather big?

how do I get the ghost ship? do I have to side with the pirates or betray them? or should I go for the submarine instead?

Egh, this comment almost made me vomit. Some people with real shit taste out there.

details are here
eternity.obsidian.net/news/pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-update-61---patch-50---the-return-of-the-ultimate

You can betray the pirates after you get the ship, but you do need to follow their questline to get it.
It doesn't really matter what you pick, all the faction ship suck ass and only exist to take you to Ukaizo.

Awesome thanks.

Dilate.

Have sex

Stop being a nigger.

Back to r/eddit

Turn-based is literally all micro management.

Turn-based is complete control over tactics, turn-times, initiative, ambush, fully realized spell effects that don't end in one second
RTwP is pre-buffing and auto attacking every time

Have sex

Have sex

bend over slut

play a videogame

>be playing poe2
>hmmm i want to summon minions
>play guitar to summon ten thousand animated weapons that 1 shot literally everything in the game on the highest difficulty

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You've gone too far.

I just didnt like the setting, it's an ok game though. Writing is cringe at time but that's most RPGs these days.

God, this. They gave us a game about pirates and our own ship, and did virtually nothing with it. The ship felt so underutilized that they probably should have ditched that idea and gave us an island fortress instead. I had fun but it felt like false advertisement.

I think it's alright. Not a great game by any means, but certainly not a terrible purchase for a CRPG fan

Oh cool didn't know there was a deadfire version

did they end up nerfing soul blade?

It is a shame. The setting lends it self so well, and I think they did great with the setting period but the ship and ship combat is so fucking poorly thought out. They should have used the same engine they use with regular combat and attributed it to ships so you can command a fleet and fight with a fleet.

Imagine turn based ship fleet combat with magic and shit. They really fucked up.

You could upload the videos to youtube and make a playlist, and then send them the link

They made her way too much of a Mary Sue. She's always the one who stands impassive.
>Wael strokes his many dicks and inserts them into her vagina
>Galawain eats fruit and feeds his beats the entrails of kith
>Ondra rubs her nipples and squirts milk into Tekehu's mouth
>Abydon plays baseball with meteors
>Skaen creepily licks his lips
>Berath stands impassive

>being too dumb to play turn-based games

How is her being an impassive bitch make her a mary sue?

imagine chess not as a turn based game but as a RTwP game.
oh wait you can't - it's already both of them.

If there's going to be a sequel, they really should ditch the idea of any friendly harbor except for the starting one, and we have to build a living fortress of a ship to conquer/pirate/whatever the rest of the map.

>read this in that fucking narrator's voice

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Mary Sue means character that I don't like. What did you think it means?

Third one probably will be The Living Lands and you overseeing some kind of expedition like The Oregon Trail.

>having to have a computer hit spacebar for you

You now Rymgrad right? when he appears every God gets terrified but her. Woedica says the Gods can't contact you directly because of Berath. She's literally queen of the Gods in Deadfire. Even if you empower Woedica she and all the other Gods are Berath's bitch. The amount of times I've read
>Berath stands impassive
is ridiculous.

I'm fine with that. As long as they stop trying to make me feel guilty about doing anything (even if I really don't give a fuck) and just have fun.

I think they should scrap the whole ship bullshit, I started having flashbacks to the minigame from Mass Effect

>being too dumb to play turn-based

Isn't turn based easier?

>Have to deal with initiative, turn-based CC affects and free actions
>Pre-buff and auto-bot attack through clouds of enemies
Ye, nah.

Does Deadfire literally only have a boat in it because DOS2 did

turn based is just tedious and slow af

I'd rather they just reboot in Yezuha. They can make it far enough in the future where they can ignore all the stupid shit in this game. Hell Deadfire practically gets rid off all Godlikes towards the end,

You have to deal with all that shit in real time

That I can definitely see being in the third game, them fleshing out the storm people.

Based, I hope you got the chance to hit a lot of hoes

You can also ignore all of that when your characters literally attack once every millisecond like an ARPG due to buff-stacking after a pause. RTwP is so fucking easy you don't even need to read the combat logs, it all zooms past anyway.

>once every millisecond
Yeah no, there's action speed in this game.
>you don't even need to read the combat logs
That's what healthbars are for

The idea is fine, it's the execution that's the problem. As long as it's not a full time job like Kingmaker is, nor utterly useless like Deadfire, it has a lot of potential, but I can see why some people might be put off by it.

>Microsoft buys Obsidian
>Fires writing staff
>Hires Chris Avellone for lead writer/director
>Pillars of Eternity: The En(durance) of Yezuha

Yeah actionspeed can be cut down into nothing with buff-stacks and auto-attacks. And when the game is turned into such a simple slog of auto-botting, of course health is the only thing you pay attention to; nothing else really matters.

>actionspeed can be cut down into nothing
Maybe with a dagger

I think that CRPGs suffer from tertiary pseudo-strategy features. The fortress didn't work for NWN2 either. You can just tell that they half assed the features. Best to leave them out.

Never played Pathfinder, but my group started Starfinder. I'm GMing for now for the first time, and I like it so far.

Is it different from Pathfinder?

rtwp is fucking cancer

>DnD isn't about prebuffing

That is one of the weaknesses of DnD, the fact basic buffs need to be applied before every combat, especially if it's a videogame. They should be cantrip free actions every combat, or toggleable like bard songs.

>say anything at all
>lose rep with Aloth
it was actually infuriating trying to get max rep with Aloth
Meanwhile Xoti and Eder come along and pretty much hit max rep because you exhaled

Fucking this. Who made her Queen of the Gods?

Isn't there a specific feature in deadfire that prevents prebuffing unless you're in combat?

It isn't effective, because you can pause then set up all actions at the same time. In Turn-Based, all of your OP buff stacking will take initiative; allowing the enemy to respond or silence in time before you get your instant buffs.

Xoti can get the fucking dick.

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They're trying to do evil yet it's so half-hearted. Verse had a line about cutting off a farmer's legs and making him watch his home burn down. That's edgy, but it's not worldbuilding or character development. The writer is clearly too scared to explore that sort of character in a realistic way, so they have this inconsistent tone which oscillates between cartoonish villainy, snark, edgy teen, and grrrl power. Makes me wonder why they bothered tackling themes too mature for them. I'm going to take my time getting to Pillars now, hopefully it's better.

Do you know how many times I've tried to cast an "op buff" to have every mob in the game target that character to interrupt them?

Probably because you have them in range of every fucker on screen. Pull your buff-bot back.

What kind of artstyle is this?

>making her white

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The pillars world feels like a Sanderson novel.

>mobs don't immediately rush the lowest armored opponent on screen
Do you even real time?

I thought that she was black in that picture. Actually, I can't fucking tell what real world race she is supposed to represent. I have a feeling they tried to avoid that completely by making her ambiguously brown.

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xoti died in my playthrough from falling into a chasm lmao

No, RTwP is hella gay dude.

but if I side with the pirates and don't betray them I can't keep the ship? I'm trying to roleplay as a nigger jack sparrow. I guess stealing the ship and then siding with no one is the best option.

You fucked up bro, she likes dick.

She's supposed to be a U.S southerner who came from Eurasia so she's likely some sort of Arabic race. Her portrait whent throuhak a lotefs of chaxsngeoa das

found the brainlet
maybe diablo 3 is more to your liking

Good

>Her portrait whent throuhak a lotefs of chaxsngeoa das
You okay user?

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I was expecting the wrpg version of skies of arcadia but I got icewind dale with boats.

Her mom was white, her dad was a shitskin.

Okay how the fuck do I handle those shitters, shit make no sense

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Don't even know what game that is

"lul just powerlevel and come back"

Idiot you're supposed to tell them to dilate or cope

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The quest says it's my level

>the quest says its your level
Welcome to Josh Sawyer's "world of balance" where pure tanks with 5 levels on you will roast you alive over the coarse of 30 minutes while you flail against them.

same here, so much fun

I don't play kid's games

It's a great game. Autistic closet homosexuals got mad because a same sex companion will show interest in you which you can turn down anyway.

Turn based is superior to real time plebeian systems.

I couldn't beat it so I came back when I was higher level. the steel golem was still 3 skulls but white instead of red. I killed the cunt first and then just hit the golem until it died.

Sounds easier to me