Somebody needs to make a science fiction videogame with meso-american aesthetics and mythology. Basically Too Human but actually good and not wh*Te.
Somebody needs to make a science fiction videogame with meso-american aesthetics and mythology...
Liam Mitchell
Grayson Wright
normies can't handle the truth about how mesoamerica actually was, it would get called RACIS and BIGOTTED because mesoamerican societies didn't look like wakanda
not to mention there were no niggers, muslims or faggots so it will never get made anyway
Grayson Martin
cringe post
Jaxson Phillips
have sex, dilate
Lincoln Martinez
Nobody gives a fuck. If they did, the beaners would make their own Witcher.
Andrew Ward
>play as aztec warrior prince
>must go from town to town pillaging, raping and taking slaves to sacrifice
>shaman gives you access to magic and powerups in exchange for human hearts
>main weapon is that wood + obsidian mace, bow and arrows and ancient aztec magic
I'd play it
Brody Baker
I think realistically the only company that would make a game like this would be Ubisoft, and they would remove anything non PC, but I'd still play it
Ryder Morris
cringe
Jack Perez
It would not be accurate at all because the actual historical facts are too problematic for the normals.
It would be hilarious watching a combat scene with some of those crazy bastards fighting with a small parade float strapped to themselves.
Oliver Cox
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Logan Collins
most combat aztecs engaged in was highly ceremonial, with outright killings being discouraged, since you can't sacrifice dead people. A warrior's success was measured by how many people he captured alive, their amount directly tied to their promotion and "knight" titles. That ceremonial approach to combat is probably the reason for their ridiculous costumes - two tribes agreed to send their warriors, they did "battle" and then the losing team got sacrificed by the victors.
Camden Garcia
It's probably not what you are looking for exactly, given it's genre,, but Pawarumi exsts
store.steampowered.com
This is bullshit logic since Mesoamerican societies are already far better then how they are usually depicted in media, which is as primitive tribes and savages who did nothing but ritualistically murder each other by the thoussands, Wheras in reality they were more like Mesopotmaian City-states or Ancient Egypt , or for some groups, all the way to Ancient Greece or Persia in complexity, with huge cities, formal goverments, philsophers and poets, had access to tons of gardens, fresh water, recreational games, large markets, etc
Sacrifice just being one part of their larger culture just like how religious persecution was just one part of european culture or diddling kids was one part of greek culture; and happened at much lower scales and mostly to enemy soldiers anyways
It's also not as if you NEED to focus on human sacrifice, either: Again, not every game set in medivial europe or the middle east focuses on the extensive amount of religious persecutions and onflicts that went on, nor does every game or movie in greece feature pedastry. You don't need to feature sacrifice.
This wouldn't be accurate, The Aztec didn't mass sacrifice civillians or slaves, only enemy soldiers, nor did they actually raze/pillage or mass enslave/capture populations or infanstructure of conquered cities all that often: Their primary interest in expansionism was making cities and towns pay them tribute, they wanted to get a large amounts of goods and resources without having to gather them themselves, They were basically a racket.
Destroying buildings, burning fields, and molesting or klling the population would just interefere with those places's ability to actually gather the tribute, and would be completely counterproductive.
Blake Martin
Not true, but ok.
Julian Davis
wh*toids BTFO
Henry Phillips
>enemy soldiers
People from their vassal states levied specifically for the purpose of sacrifice.
Wyatt Reed
>kills 80,000 "enemy warriors" in a week
the aztecs were insane and no one liked them,, thats why the tlaxcalans decided to ally with the spaniards, stop spreading lies faggot
Sebastian Davis
Play original prey nerd
Parker Perry
Cont:
To expand, the Aztec litterally didn't even directly govern the places they conquered (generally): Local royalty and nobility would keep power, their existing political relationships would be maintained, their own laws and religious customs would stay in place, etc.
Yes, The majority of sacrificed people were enemy soldiers captured alive in combat, and yes, that was the methoed of progression through the military's rank system, but the idea that battles or wars were primarily ritualistic is a meme.
When fighting to conquer other cities, or to defend their own cities; battles were being handedly pragmatically and tactically, and killing absolutely happened, though they would also aim to capture when possible such as if an enemy soldier was downed but alive or after enemy lines broke. What you are describing is a specific type of pre-arranged, rituallstic battle called Flower Wars, but even these were often used pragmatically as a form of siege warfare, since mesoamerican warfare needed to be seasonal due to the unique logistical challenges of not having beasts of burden, but flower wars were smaller scale and could be levied year-round to wear down enemy states they wanted to conquer.
>Tribes
The region was nearly entirely filled with formal state goverments operating out of cities even 1500-2000 years before the Aztec Empire existed, see pic The only "tribes" that existed in the region were the Chichimeca up north in the middle-of-nowhere deserts, and they were viewed as primitive and savage by the rest of the region.
That's incorrect. We have surviving Aztec tribute rolls showing the specific tributary requirements from dozens of provinces. They demanded stuff like cotton, jade, cacao beans, gold, and manufactured clothing, weapons and armor; etc. There's only a single instance we know of where they ever asked for actual people to sacrifice as tribute
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Gavin Thompson
doesn't shadowrun have cyberpunk aztec shit
Nathaniel Gray
prey has aztec stuff?
Carson Hill
bump
Kayden Brown
forget sci fi, I just want more games in that setting in general.
this game was really fun
Charles Taylor
>We have surviving Aztec tribute rolls showing the specific tributary requirements from dozens of provinces. They demanded stuff like cotton, jade, cacao beans, gold, and manufactured clothing, weapons and armor; etc
cont:
If you don't believe me, check out the "Codices and Primary Sources" folder here mega.nz
For you and to think that they sacrificed a notable amount of people from other cities by force who weren'y soldiers hows a fundamental misunderstanding of Aztec dogma The entire reason they had abnormally high levels of sacrifice (and, again, even less then most people think) is because their religion was re-written in the 1420/30';s by a specific political official named Tlacaelel, who worked with the then Emperor Ahuizotl to burn all existing texts and re-write them, in the process emphasizing the sacrifice of enemy soldiers to keep the sun alive SPEFFICALLY AS A WAY TO JUSTIFY MILITARY EXPANSION SO THEY COULD GET TRIBUTARIES
It was the economic tribute and goods that was the end goal, not the sacrifices themselves, and for the sacrifices to Huitzilopotchli to NOT be enemy soldiers would go against their religious norms
They didn't kill 80,000 of anybody in a single week you retard, that's part of my point: It's litterally disproven not only by basic math, but also since this past year we've done archeological digs at the place where it that specific incident took place at the layer of deposition for the specific years it was said to take place in.
Will post said math and said findings for you next post
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Ian Lopez
Cont:
The alleged incident (the reconsecration of the great temple of 1487) states that 80k people were sacrificed over 4 days. There were 4 altars, so that's 5k per altar per day. Even assuming that you had literally nonstop sacrifices (which is impossible, even putting aside basically logistics they were highly formalized, drawn out affairs with specific ritualistic steps, sometimes lasting weeks) that would mean each altar would need to be sacrificing 1 person every 17 seconds
For contrast Auschwitz gassed around 6k people a day: For the 80k figure to be true, the Aztec would have to be sacrificing people 3x as fast as Auschwitz could gas them. See how stupid that is?
But, we don't even need to worry about the math, since this past year we did excavations at the Great Temple's skull rack/towers, specifically having excavated all the skulls that were deposited from the skull track to the towers below them from the phase covering the years 1486 to 1502; which obviously includes 1487, which is when that incident took place, allegedly. And for that entire 16 year period, only 600 skulls were deposited into the excvated. Not 6k, not 600, SIX HUNDRED.
Even if we are to assume that those 600 skulls don't cover the entire amount of sacrificed people in the capital for that time period, which is fair since there was also a second tower, as well as the rack above the towers; but said excavations of both towers and the rack show that the entire construct, in total, only held "Thousands" of skulls., not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, and that it only got to that size over the course of many, many years
So not only is the 8k figure literally proven to be bullshit, the findings show that the actual annual rate of sacrifice was probably in the double digits, maybe triple at most. And by the way, 75% of the skulls found were males of warrior age, so, again: Vast majority were enemy soldiers.
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happy to answer further questions
Liam Perez
Sombra from overwatch had some vaugely cyberpunk aztec stuff in her concept art
Jordan Parker
reminder