People who know their shit about classic please help me out here...

>That one rogue outside IF who only duels you when he has cold blood, blind, vanish, thistle tea and health potion off cooldown.

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Ah.. the memories.

This. Warriors are the kings of BGs. Also you'll have an easy time gearing up, since people will literally suck your dick for you to tank dungeons.

>People who know their shit
>on Yea Forums of all places
thats a big yikes from me, sir

Hunter.

Probably mage. He can do great damage and CC and doesnt need good gear at 60 for his skills. And sheep is THE problem-solver 101. You can also blink and cc rogues more or less.

>tfw no more protection Paladin
I do love a bit of Protection Paladin.

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Mage kitting all those wanna be warrior dps.

Mage or Warlock. People saying Rogue are morons, they suck in BGs.

>He assumes OP will always have a pocket healer if he's solo queueing BGs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I can't remember how many random WSGs I've been in where my team had no healers. He will be the bitch of ranged DPS.

I still remember seeing a rogue sat on the enemy graveyard in AV with thunderfury just killing them all as they respawned constantly.

Mage, Warlock, Hunter or Rogue.

>Correct answer only given once.
God, I'm going to have so much fun trashing all you scrubs.

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you should play the class you enjoy the most

Rogue, Hunter, mage. These classes do not depend on others and creates their own opportunities, while simultaneously having a kit that allows them to get out of trouble easily.

Personally, I'm playing a rogue, not because I want to be the best, but because it's what I find the most enjoyable.

So many idiots posting Arcane /Fire one-shot mage. I mained mage during vanilla and while it was fun one shotting my main tank, the novelty wears thin quickly and you have 2-3 mins of being gimped afterwards . I strongly recommend not doing this build. If you want to PVP, go Warlock, Shadow Priest, Rogue, Druid or Warrior. Mages were only ever good at kiting warriors.

I have a warrior and he's broken op in Arms spec in bgs. DKs are good too.

Don't get a rogue though. Don't roll rogue, druid, paladin or priest.

>classic
>DK

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If you just wanna fuck shit up go Shadow Priest, Warlock or Hunter, they need very little gear to be impactful. If you REALLY want to fuck shit up go Warrior, but expect autism tier grinding before you get the required gear for you to do so.

I really wanna roll lock since it seems like they're pretty high tier in both pve and pvp. Should I pull the trigger?

warrior is absolute shit unless you got pocket healers, otherwise mages/hunters will eat you alive
also requires tons of gear

Rogue is extremely cooldown reliant and classic is based off 1.12, making rogues nowhere near as powerful as people think, plus they lose a lot of effectiveness once people know what they're doing.
Still can work, but not the king people make it out to be.

If your goal is wrecking in battlegrounds after you hit 60, your choices are

>Druid
Extremely powerful and best flag carrier, lots of versatility but high skill ceiling.

>Hunter
Can absolutely destroy people, has one of the highest if not highest skill ceilings giving you tons of room for improvement, but that same ceiling means you can be utter dogshit or a god

However, do remember you're also gonna have to do some pve, blizz original design didn't had this modern idea of separating pvp and pve, it was all part of the same game.
That said, there's a couple classes that can really fuck shit up once you got some gear.

>Shaman
Resto is good, but ele shaman is absolutely bonkers and some consider even borderline op, just very underplayed
mana is a very big issue tho, just not as crippling as in raiding so you can actually shine a bit

>Shadow priest
absolute cancer in general and just gets worse with gear

>Mage
Makes melee cry themselves to sleep

>Paladin
Absolute bullshit in general, same as shadow

DO NOT FUCKING ROLL ROGUE
DO NOT ROLL ROGUE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A LOVE FOR THIS CLASS
THE PEOPLE RECOMMENDING ROGUE FOR BATTLEGROUNDS DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU WILL GET FAERIE FIRED FROM ACROSS THE MAP, YOU WILL GET HUNTERS MARKED FROM ACROSS THE MAP, YOU WONT GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO 1V1 WHERE YOUR CLASS SHINES THE MOST, YOUR COOLDOWNS WILL BE ON COOLDOWN
YOU WONT FEEL GOOD FIGHTING IN MID, YOU ARE THE EASIEST MELEE CLASS IN THE GAME TO BLOW UP IN TEAMFIGHTS, YOU WILL BE PUT ON DEFENSE DUTY WHERE YOU CHEESE PEOPLE GOING FOR THE FLAG AND MAYBE YOU WILL GET TO DO SOME PLAYMAKING IN GAMBIT MOVES, YOU NEED ANOTHER ROGUE TO STEALTH KILL FC AND IT STILL TAKES LONGER AND REALLY ISNT THAT MUCH BETTER THAN OTHER CLASSES PROPERLY GROUPING UP TOGETHER AND PUSHING ANYWAYS

What else were you considering? Locks are pretty disgusting, they’re basically a shadow priest and a fire mage in the same spec, more or less of one or the other depending on what you do. But, they lack the ability to go either frost or disc (obviously), so you don’t have that utility. If I wasn’t going shaman, I’d probably go lock.

Warlock, make sure to have engineering and FAPs and you can 1v2 most situations.

Something melee because I don't want to be forced to play gnome

Ally races are tough, optimal races are all manlets. You could probably make a case for a night elf hunter. Feign>Meld is probably more value than immune to rogue blinds, which you should shit on them anyway, particularly with a pet. There’s an argument to be made for human rogues just because the pve advantage is so big, and perception vs stoneskin....
Do you dislike dwarf as well, or just gnome?

Ret paladin for dem auto attacks

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Lock

being this scared shitless of rogues

If they're exactly copying vanilla (I don't know which patch it came in) you cannot solo queue BGs and reach a proper rank it's impossible. Early on when you queued into BGs you had to reform parties inside to make sure HKs were shared constantly.
I also know BGs are coming out a bit late, so if you're solo the entire time you will get crushed by people in early raid gear.

Just play retail if you want to be a lonewolf, it's much easier to progress with little social interaction. You have to coordinate with people in vanilla to get any sort of power or pay for carries when they inevitably come.

t. retard who hit rank 14 during vanilla

lmao go ahead and roll rogue
orcs and dwarves will laugh at your face while hunters literally eat you for breakfast

Play AV for fun

WSG and AB will be full of tryhard stacks running 10 rocket helms and burning 10g a round in consumes

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you're not going to succeed doing solo anything in vanilla, you're going to get your shit pushed in by people with legendaries and naxx gear.
You won't get rank 14 without being involved in one of the secret discord win trading cartels that'll pop up, either

rogue, warlock, hunter

You will *never* get TF as rogue, even if your guild gets enough for four tanks it will go to fury for 4HM.

Nah I'm cool with dwarves but I don't remember if vanilla dwarves could be locks or not.
That intellect buff seems op desu. There's gonna be so many fuckin gnomes on release

Dwarves are better than gnomes, but yeah, as you said, they lack casters. If you want, go a dorf priest, or get geared and do a holy shock pally.
They make fine rogues, and hunter is always a consideration. For casters, you really don’t have a choice if you want to be optimal, if it’s gnome you go gnome, into is too good.
The smart thing to do is go horde because orc and undead are both top tier races in animation looks and racial.

Orcs and undead make good locks? I wouldn't mind playing either of those

the intellect buff is actually pretty shitty desu. saw a video where someone calculated that with endgame gear you get like 20 int which is practically nothing

They make the best, particularly since you won’t go against WOTF in battlegrounds.
People say orc is better since as a lock your biggest weakness is stuns, you’ll shit on most fear classes without effort. Cannibalize and WOTF are always strong, though, and the rest of the orc racials are pretty much useless. It’s one of the few combos that is really up for debate, the other being orc/UD rogues and elf/dorf hunters.

Orc locks have the obvious advantage of hardiness. UD locks are the most thematic I guess, and cannibalize combined with life tap actually is kinda neat especially while levelling. WotF is always nice too I guess. Plus UD have good casting animations.

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Plenty of guilds will have MC on farm and never see any T3 boss drops though

>outside of this one free kill every three minutes, you can only CC people or throw regular fireballs
Wow what tragedy. People saying the same thing about sub rogues are also retarded. You get a free kill with your cooldowns which you can use to blow up a FC, then after that you still have really nice damage and a shit ton of CC - interrupts, sap, sheep, stuns, freeze, slows, etc etc. The one free kill is a “fuck you, I win” bonus but you still exist after that.

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what is with you retards and being unable to research shit, do you have to be fed everything through a fucking drip?

why would you even really on this cesspol to give actual advice as well

He knows how to play a rogue. Only duel when all your cooldowns are up and when your opponent isn't a warrior.

>look it up
>it’s all pages upon pages of reddit circlejerk info
Remember when there were actual forums dedicated to this shit? Now you can’t get any fucking good info for fucking anything. Particularly those endless cancerous YouTube videos that are completely and obviously wrong, even without testing.

its shadow priest isn't it

Hunter is the best for pugging, any other answer is wrong. This is fact.

>mfw retailfags roll their favorite hybrid spec from retail and expect to be viable and competitive
>mfw they will all be forced to put on a dress and heal
I can’t wait for the torrent of tears on the forums, from Paladins and Druids especially.

>yfw you realize paladins are literally the best class in game and druids never die

Yes.

OP said pugging Bg's, not 1v1 world pvp

Warlock. You need a class that can be great even without high end PvE stuff, so forget about melee class.

This is a good post. This is why if you want to PvP as Rogue, you roll a 49 twink and roll around finding solo niggas to fuck up in BGs, as well as shitting on high 50s and BAD 60s in wPvP

They are OK but without good PvE gear it will not be that good.

>paladins are the best class in the games
Yes, as healers who support their team. Otherwise they’re just some faggot waddling after a mage for ten minutes doing one fifth the damage a warrior does
>and druids never die
While their one purpose is to be flag carriers, because in any amount of organized PvP they get flattened.

Truth hurts
Cope more

Druid

>paladins are literally the best class in game

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I just lost the person I was going to play Classic with to a woman so I'm going to have to be go hunter to have a pretend companion. Will name the pet after him as an insult.

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Are they actually going to try and balance the game because 1.12 was absolute garbage in this respect

If they weren’t, ally would get smashed in pvp; horde racials are simply much much better.

Wrong, Hunter is 2 things;
Burst with aimed>multi>auto shot
Spam viper sting

The latter can be done without any gear. And for the first you don't need crazy gear, you just need to stack crit and have a slow Crossbow. (r10 blue pvp gear + AV Crossbow actually does the job) Remember, hunter scales pretty bad

Someone I was speaking to on a private wrath server the other week was convinced that they are making all the unused specs viable. I don't know where he got this information but he kept saying it's true. I don't believe it but I don't know why he would lie either.

Hybridfags are just that delusional.

>Remember, hunter scales pretty bad
I cant hear this argument any more. Everyone scales poorly if youre not among the 2-3 guilds on your server farming BWL and progressing AQ.

rogue

Mage

The concept of "delusions" make people lie constantly, even about the most trivial shit. Don't underestimate the human capacity to be a waste of oxygen in all entirety.

Completely delusional and likely 14 years old repeating something he heard his favorite streamer ponder aloud.

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Roll a mage, you can even run wsg flags against pugs with your blink and ice nova CC

>Warrior
Your worst option pretty much. Warrior simply isn't a solo class. Everyone kites you, everyone kills you. You need to have your group and healer backing you up.
>Druid
Your job in WSG is to carry the flag. Unfortunately, to do this well against anyone competent, you need your team to peel people off of you. You can't achieve any kills solo because you have the worst burst of all classes and can only tickle people to death.
>Paladin
Only good spec is holy, so you're stuck healing and are at the mercy of your pug teammates.

Every other class can solo queue relatively ok (ie is good independently). Priest, as shadow, is very strong 1v1. So is mage, warlock, hunter. And with various cc, interrupts, they can actually make a difference in group fights. Rogue is decent, and has the additional advantages of being able to steal bases in AB, for example, which you might need to do if you're stuck in a shitty team. Ele shaman has one of the strongest bursts in the game, which makes it decent enough.

Basically, don't roll warrior, druid or paladin. The rest are fine.

Lock Becuase you blow pepole up with shadow bolt
Never played Shadow Priest but they also blow pepole up 1v1 but are gear dependent
Mage if your good and know how to manage cooldowns kite pepole for days and blow them up with frostbolts THEN FIRE/PYROBLAST WHEN GEARED

Druid.

This but unironically. Played a rogue to rank 11 way back when and you're basically your cooldowns. If you don't have them, you're donzo. World of roguecraft was full of retards, don't take that into account.

You will global mages though. Especially if they're undergeared or drinking. That shit never got old.

I'm thinking either hunter, priest, or mage. My goal is to raid. It would be priest hands down but I'm nervous about healing. If I do make a priest though I'm going to try and get the name Father and roleplay as an old man who forgives sins.

>What class should I roll if I mainly wanna solo queue BGs
Shaman/hunter/warlock/paladin/shadowpriest.

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It really depends on what you want to do. If you want to absolutely fuck every single Alliance Warlock you meet, pick UD. But you will get torn apart by Alliance Rogues. If you want to have an even chance against Alliance Rogues, you pick Orc, but fighting Alliance Warlocks becomes an even fight.

Hunter, hands down. You can do it all solo.
2nd choice mage.
3rd choice rogue.

No they arent. Warriors get wrecked on BGs as a solo queue. Every range dps is going to target u as soon as you charge in

Do you know what scaling mean

Yes, I do. That doesnt change the fact that a T3 hunter still will destroy 99% of the non-T3 (or even T2) casuals.

Scaling is a meme term to describe the role of dps in Naxx compared to other T3 dps. Its irrelevant in pvp and even more irrelevant if the hunter is good.

>solo queue BGs and fuck some people up
Whatever you roll you're the one that's going to be fucked in the ass by premades all day.

I'm going to dab on you all with my elemental shaman. Once again the most underrated class.

Enjoy dabbing in blue gear for 2 years.

*viper stings u*
nothin' personnel

Most idiotic post in the thread.
As many people have said, Warriors are shit unless you have a decent weapon and a healer.
For all the cool awesome bg montages, people forget that even High Warlord Warriors got shit on 90% of their playtime. There's a reason why warrior is the most represented class yet you can hardly find decent tanks. Everyone and thir mother have wetdreams of being the nex Asscandy BG rape machine without actually thinking about the logistics behind it.

based

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Locks start out weak at 60. Before getting T2 or some ZG pieces, prepare for a world of pain.

Afaik they're doing CR Bgs, so prevent queue dodging. So maybe you can get at least Marshall/general as 24/7 autismo solo play.

Dudue what. TF was never the tank item you make it out to be. Lotsa guilds managed to clear BWL/MC and gave their TF to some shitters like a Paladin or a hunter.
I'm even going so far, that even the most shitter raiding guild will do just fine until Vael. Then usually 40 man teams/guild fall apart once the first real execution check shows up.

>holy shock pally
Not in classic you won't.
Shockadin is Burning Crusade, user. Don't tell lies on the internet.

I played Ele shaman in Vanilla, even in blues you can blow up people with one NF combo.

so this guy was rank 14 right?

>they suck in BGs.

more like they suck dicks in wsg, in ab and av they were pretty good

Yeah until you run into someone with more than 4k HP.

warrior if you have a pala/priest friend
ele sham if you habe a warrior friend
mage if you're a loner lol

That's because people were retards, the GM was a rogue and wanted TF, or the GM gave it to his internet gf. TF is so retardedly strong for tanking that people were using it in TBC.

mage or rogue

Rogue, Warrior, Warlock, maybe Mage or Priest.

Druid, warlock, mage, spriest, hunter, warrior (after getting some decent gear), rogue of course. Pallies and shamand will never be good aside for supporting.

Since this is the classic thread. What happens if 2 paladins cast divine intervention at the same time at eachother?

Whoever has the better Internet connection actually casts it

Rogue