1.12 isn't perfect

People level alts and get their 60 to kill low level campers.

this is the only reason to roll on a PvP server. But it's an important one

The only bad things about 1.12 is that enh shamans got nerfd into oblivion ,cross-realm bgs and AV becoming just another honor farm, instead of an epic 12 hour place of warfare

At 60 after I got my pvp ranks all I did was slaughter lowbies in red ridge mountains all day.

It's so much fun.

>do sunken temple on ND
>pack of 4 dragons
>try to sleep one
>immune (not blizzlike)
>tank is level 56, 5 levels above the mobs
>despite this spamming max rank HT isn't enough to keep him up, forced to use NS
After this I'm 100% certain that the people who complain about the beta being undertuned have never played vanilla, because it should be obvious to everyone with more than a single braincell that private server dungeons are overtuned as fuck.

Take off your nostalgia goggles. Temple was always very hard. The immune thing is something else.

Why are you even play this game when there's no reason to if you're not a twitch streamer, and thereby basically a GM?

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The only remotely difficult part about ST in vanilla was eranikus.

Wrong. Temple in vanilla was hard, which is why alot of people avoided it at lvl 50.

>even though literally everybody else can
People are constantly arguing which vanilla additions were good.
Battlegrounds killed world pvp, ZG and DM were welfare loot, Naxx shat on class balance, etc.

if you remove cross realm battlegrounds, classic dies. but I should be more specific. it's not that all of classic would die, just the PvE realms. even back in 2005, my realm had very long queue times before they added the xrealm feature. and it didn't help that players would instantly quit group once they realized they were up against a premade groups.

PvP realms are going to be the most popular in classic. keeping xrealm disabled only hurts the PvE servers in the long run.

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>anything in vanilla
>hard
I’m not shitting on it but vanilla had 2
1-2 buttons you spammed on most classes and bosses had basically zero mechanics. It was anything but hard. Unless you consider having to cc in 5 mans difficult.

Sorry, but we already know that the damage values in beta are fine. You're in for a rude awakening when it turns out all the dungeons are easier than on pservers, nostbabby.

Perfection makes things boring, don't you know?

Duh. Vanilla is unbalanced, blatantly unfinished mess. You should only support vanilla because you want Blizzard to eventually make servers for the only decent incarnation of WoW that ever existed, TBC.
>but muh flying mounts
>but muh resilience means I can't dragonslay and be OP in PvP anymore
>but muh content is too hard for me no one wants to carry me anymore in 25 man raids
fuck off

I would prefer a tbc server over vanilla user. Everyone can hate on me but I’d like a 4.2 server because firelands was my all time favorite raid, I felt like class balance was pretty good in pve (enh & spriest were a little too strong. And pvp was in its most fun state.
Obviously they would never make a cata server because everyone hates it but that’s my unpopular opinion

>Join a guild
>It has a HahHa so IRONIC guild tabard that's pink and purple

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honestly removing resilience would be a big plus for tbc
and flight being 70 only would be another

I dont play on private servers. Temple was hard, thats a fact.

flight was only 70 in tbc it was reduced to 60 when wotlk came out

How was it hard exactly? Unironically asking because I don’t remember it being hard. I remember SM dungeons being hard only because how often people would pull extra mobs by accident and wipe the group and BRD was hard but I don’t remember ST

Did you hurt cats/birds and step on ants as a kid too? There really isn't an explanation for ganking lowbies other than being a bullying sociopath

Classic won't bring back your adolescence. You shouldn't postpone your suicide for it.

but 1.13 will be.

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no it's because getting to swamp of sorrows blew ass for horde and alli, no one wanted to go there

So you don't even know what kind of difficulty I'm talking about? That's just as bad.

youtu.be/wRzJDDxyZqk
bros... the streamers are lobbying to ruin classic.

Didn't horde have a FP in Stonard? I only played alliance so I had to run from either duskwood or blasted lands

Same-level pvp while leveling happens all the time on pvp servers.

Maybe for you user. Everything "hard" in vanilla can be swapped with "takes a long time". The PvE is devoid of any challenge unless you are retarded

>The PvE is devoid of any challenge unless you are retarded
Have fun wiping in MC then.

MC is only gonna be a wipefest the first couple weeks when people are in leveling greens. Once people get dungeon blues it's going on farm quick

They did. These kids are just being contrarian. Sunken Temple was a hard dungeon, because the only classes able to cc the dragons werent as abundant as the popular mage/rogue, so you had to improvise. One wrong fear or broken sleep and youd wipe. They probably never tried ST without a hunter or druid.

I never kill Alliance, but what I like about PvP servers is those times you don't kill each other. When the other faction helps you, even though they could have killed you. Those moments are what makes PvP servers good.

>MC is only gonna be a wipefest the first couple weeks when people are in leveling greens.
But you said its easy as fuck unless youre retarded. Are you retarded?
The last 2 guilds I played on didnt wipe a single time in MC in our speedruns for server first.

I'm not the user you responded to at first, retard

Im not the retard wiping in MC kiddo.

Sleep was mostly worthless in ST because the dragons had massive resistances and would break out of it in seconds.

I was gonna say I didn't find it too hard then I remembered I was the hunter in the group. Logic checks out

I'm not the retard playing classic in 2019, had my fill in 2006

It was 70 only back in TBC and cost like a grand just for scooty puff speed flying. If you wanted 2 go fast you needed 5k.

I’ve done this a couple times. It’s oddly satisfying.

>Want to grief
>Grief guy that's broadcasting himself
>"Wtf the I can't grief a guy that has 5k witnesses?"
He's absolutely right, you can't bitch about streamer privilege when you're targetting a guy that has thousands of witnesses, it's like attacking a fucking new anchor while he's filming and getting asshurt you got caught because the guy you attacked was famous

Kamille is a girls name

>tfw fishing and an opposing faction player comes up and fishes next to you

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You're the retard playing retail, probably claiming that MoP and Legion are good games, and always bragging about muh complex retail mechanics that consist of dodging red circles under your character and having a high ilvl number.

still not worth the corpse camping from gank squads, but that's my fault for being on a high pop, unbalanced server. changing to pve was the best. I like it though when someone wastes their time trying to get me flagged for pvp

You are damn right it ain't my man

But with just some changes to the abilities/talents us meleeCHADS can RISE AGAIN

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Bro I don't play retail either. I'm only here to laugh at your sorry 16 year old, private server playing ass. I played vanilla back in the day so it's fun for me to see all the posts from kids who played Nost/ND who think they know vanilla when they clearly don't because they weren't born back then.

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TBC fans should be banned

fuck flying mounts

Why are classic threads so fucking dead? FFXIV threads hit 500 posts in like an hour and this thread can't even hit a 100? Is classic dead before it's even released?

Ganking someone is not griefing, and besides, he said he wanted to be able to grief other people and thats why he wanted to play on a pvp server instead of just going on a pve one and not have to deal with any of the issues.

No risk pvp is still carebear shit, nice try though. Pvp server is the only way to go but there is nothing hardcore about wow pvp period.

So you're going to sit here and pretend you wouldn't corpse camp a streamer for much longer than you average tard?
Or how he said he would turn his stream off because he's not stupid enough to do it in front of witnesses?

It's not against ToS, he is trying to change that though.

He's proposing a community blacklist nerd, which would involve unifying literally every single player

Imagine if it passes. Streamers could walk around with no armor on and if anybody kills them they would be banned on the spot because their fanbase will just right-click report them 50 times for stream sniping. It's the ultimate griefing tactic

Only half the classes/specs are viable

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I'm rolling a warrior, leveling alone and according to surveys I'll be in the minority faction.
I hope I can out level everyone fast or I'll be in a world of pain

This, I saw a streamer leveling in SM library pulling 3 groups at a time and AoEing them with just 2 mages.
Vanilla was easy, we just were bad at the game

Ideally he wants blizzard just to ban them but he doesn't think he could get them to listen.

all the people on beta are twinked because they were 30 capped for like 3 weeks.

Dont listen to people saying to go fury. Level in arms and get a spirit set. Around level 20 when you get imp overpower go DW and spam overpower since most things will dodge. When you get sweeping strikes pull 2 mobs pop ss then use cleave to kill them quicker than you would single mobs sonce SS with cleave procs on both hits from cleave resultimg in 4 total swings from 1 attack.

Blizzard will fix vanilla WoW!

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bro they're fighting elites 3 levels above them, if they can pull 3 groups you'll be able to pull 1 by 1 without CC np

>the lv40 syndicate house at lordamere lake
>horde helps me kill the quest mob downstairs
>help him kill the quest mob upstairs
Had fun, even though Netherwing was a garbage server.

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>Dont listen to people saying to go fury. Level in arms and get a spirit set. Around level 20 when you get imp overpower go DW and spam overpower since most things will dodge.
Literally every single word in this entire quote is wrong.
>When you get sweeping strikes pull 2 mobs pop ss then use cleave to kill them quicker than you would single mobs sonce SS with cleave procs on both hits from cleave resultimg in 4 total swings from 1 attack.
This is correct though

ah yeah no doubt. SM was not a particularly difficult instance.

>go DW
I see you are a man of culture
Depends on what weapons I find around that level, 2h are easier to find

heroic strike plebs can go climb a wall of dicks

>draenei
NOT
CLASSIC

They were farming it all the way to 40. By something like 36 your gear is 6 levels or more outdated. It's kinda hilarious how overtuned some private servers are. A single enraged myrmidon there will shred your tank. In beta you'd have no problems with multiple even without wearing a shield.

The spirit set meme comes from private server meta, not sure if its really worth it but I doubt it, you'll only regen while traveling long distances anyway.
Going DW to use overpower on CD isn't a bad idea if you get level apropiate weapons
2handers are slow as fuck and you don't have any instant attacks until whirlwind so just not having to deal with dying since you missed twice in a row is a plus

>level 36 in level 30 bis gear has outdated gear
LOL

Hell they managed to finish sm cath back when 30 was cap.

>It's kinda hilarious how overtuned some private servers are
Fuck Netherwang and its overtuned bullshit, man.
>mobs hitting for 2.5x the damage they should be
>those mobs inexplicably have windfury that can proc off itself so they can and will randomly oneshot you (??????????)
>tanking kara trash is literally 10x harder than tanking the bosses proper and even with literally the best gear in the entire game you WILL wipe 2-3 times per night when the mobs instagib the tank from full health
>AH BUT U SEE WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM A SECRET SOURCE THAT THIS IS BLIZZLIKE :)

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I remember myrmidons ravaging my warrior asshole back then if I missed disarm and the healer got distracted back then, even while farming SM for gold at lvl60 I focused them first

>carebear
this is the wow equivalent of snowflake

It's the laziest excuse I've ever heard that Blizzard is just putting in the shitty nu-AV because it's 1.12 and not simply just that they can't be bothered to remake an older patch of AV for a 15 year old game that they're still charging a $15 subscription for lmao

1.5 AV is garbage.

They don't have any files for old AV, im pretty sure the 1.12 reference client is the oldest they have, that's probably a big reason why.

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Should have been there for LookingForGroup.
Nightbane hit 12k on T4 tank. Randomly killed offtank with one crushing blow because paladins couldn't get defcapped due to bug.

I remember soloing SM cath easily on my hunter

3.3.5 was Awesome.

you got him bro, which layer we on tonight?

Multibox is allowed for streamers

200xp per mob

Now go back in time and try that with 1.3 talents and items. Try raiding MC with 1.4 druid talents. Try doing fury dps with 1.5 warrior talents.

There are cross realm battlegrounds though. They were added in 1.12 and are already confirmed for Classic.

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bro don't make fun of private server kids, they've only played the patch that came out 3 months before TBC. It's not their fault for not knowing about vanilla, they're only 15

t. Retail babbies seething that their 300 mount collection will be worthless in 3 months.

This is the only thing that sucks about classic.
>You will never join a bg again and see your arch nemesis on the opposing team, so you try everything to win, since its personal

Instead were getting
>join bg
>mindlessly farm honor, since you dont know anyone and you dont care
>looks like it might be a loss?
>go semi afk to get that 10 minute wsg token

Yeah I feel you. There was one orc hunter that I played against often in WSG who knew all my hiding places and would often flare me as I was shadowmelding waiting for a good aimed shot opportunity. He never did it when I played my Paladin so he must have recognized my name

Have fun playing a sharded version of classic. Cucks like you made this happen.

Is the plan for them to eventually move on to TBC shit?

Lol. My nemesis was an orc hunter called Selene in full T2. I was "the" flag carry on my server. This guy would make it his job to chase me all day long.

There's no sharding. Keep up with the news.

Layering and sharding is the same system. There is layering, so there is sharding.

>classic has warmode. PvP and PVE servers are the same system!
>classic has group finder. LFG chat is the same system!
>classic has flying mounts. Ground mounts are the same system!
>classic has sharding. Layering is the same system!

I haven't heard the thing about Naxx patch shitting on class balance.

Everything else I heard during vanilla actually.

Nice strawman. Layering is literally just the same sharding system only they turned a switch off for cross realms. You will still have people layer hopping to farm nodes and avoid pvp, they've already been doing that on beta.

Crossrealm battlegrounds allowed pvp to flourish casually and we're a necessary addition to the game no matter what server you played. The only pro about the old system was all the premade matches I had against the same horde team. But the cons were too numerous to keep that old system entirely as it was.

Personally this is the best thing WoW has announced in years, i cannot wait to watch classic crash and burn

I love world of warcraft and yes I played vanilla, it was great, but what i don't love is the fact that we have been plagued by a bunch of retards who have cried and moaned about how great vanilla was for years. Every single WoW thread has them, you can guarantee it, a number of faggots spamming the thread with how flawless and perfect vanilla WoW was - these retards never take their rose tinted goggles off.

I'll be extremely glad to see the meltdown when the nostalgiafaggots realise that vanilla wasn't as great as they remembered it. Sadly, I know they won't ever stop crying about how great it is. They're going to make negligible excuses which don't really matter, such as "Oh this mailbox is in the wrong position" or "Oh no an eceleb is playing on my server".

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You can't change layers, unless you're invited to a party where the leader is on another layer.

>you can't change layers
>except you can and here's how
???

Well of course it wasn't. Neither was 1.0 or any patch in WoW's history.

Yeah, so it makes the argument mute.

While I dislike cross realm BG's, my experience on private servers was less than ideal. 95% of teams you'd meet were hardcore griding premades who'd dodge each other. Granted, the megaservers have seen a rise in situations which may not necessarily play out the same in Classic - something that I hope for, because these situations were:

- reserving every good item on a run
- devilsaur mafia (and to a lesser extend camping other nodes)
- BRM/Searing Gorge being a death world for the imbalanced factions
- and the aforementioned queue dodging premades

I'm really curious if we'll have to endure this again and if it'll be different on EU/US server (because of streamers).

Yes you can, you can literally just log in and out. Have you not seen the clip of that gnome warrior doing that to mine mithril?

That sounds like a bug. You're locked to a single layer, so you see the same people as you're leveling.

>That sounds like a bug.
The absolute fucking state of blizzard apologists.

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You are not locked to a single layer. Do you not realize how that could not work? They will fill out layers and when it hits max capacity they start a new one, they're not going to leave several layers below capacity running. They will make the layers be continent wide, eastern kingdom has a layer but when you cross over to kalimdor you'll swap layers too.

Most people have a very nostalgic view of BGs pre-crossrealm. The reality is that it was cool to have recognizeable names in basically every BG and to even see your name mentioned on the server forum, but those cool moments were very rare and the reality was:

>one faction wins 90% of BGs because it would take a herculean effort from hundreds of people on the other faction to match their gear and nobody rolls that faction to pvp because of that also
>other faction has ultra long queue times to the point where it's a massive chore to pvp, often having to queue 1 hour for 5 mins of stomping
>premades make it impossible to play solo chill BGs and equal premade vs premade fights happen once every fucking year
>those "cool" moments of having rivalries, talking about pvpers on the server and community are 90% circlejerk shit with people who want to suck enough dick to be granted r14

Xrealm was a really good change.

>the beta has bugs? You must be delusional!

Layers are like servers. You're locked on one. Why do you think they're going to merge them? Why would they need to merge them when server populations drop?

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bug.

based

Not specifically planned but they said it's a possibility. Classic is going to take a year or two to roll out all the vanilla raids and stuff, so it will depend on how popular classic is in the long run.

>Layers are like servers. You're locked on one.
No, layers are cloud technology like the shards on retail. They can merge and split them at will because they're not real servers, that is exactly why you'll be able to layer hop. You are not locked to one, you will switch when logging on and when you take a boat to the other continent.

Layers are shards that don't have cross faction turned on. It's not a new technology that they made, it's just a lazy jury rigging of the retail technology.

retard

Can't wait to share my layer with hordes of pic related.

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The whole point of layers is to manage player populations so there aren't under or overcrowded areas.
Certain zones are going to be packed in the first few weeks as the initial wave of players is all leveling at once. After a while the population will spread out and the surge of new characters will slow down.

Private servers arent really the vanilla experience user. While premades existed "dodging" was impossible unless you were paying for a 2nd account.

>- reserving every good item on a run
Happened back in the day. I still remember to this day running UBRS in 2005 and some warrior (guild leader) had reserved the shield, the polearm and the shoulders for himself.

>- devilsaur mafia (and to a lesser extend camping other nodes)
Might happen in the US due to China farmers, but wont happen in the EU due to timezones. You cant control the supply when you dont have people from different timezones coming online to do "their shift".

>- BRM/Searing Gorge being a death world for the imbalanced factions
Well thats just pvp m8.

>- and the aforementioned queue dodging premades
Doubt this will be as prevalent except for the absolute tryhards and streamers doing it.

You really expect casino managers to know anything about video games? Those things are for fucking nerds, bro.

>but there is nothing hardcore about wow pvp period

ahahahahahahahaha please tell us more

>Carebear faggots
Let me guess you kill defenseless lvl 20s on an Undead rogue/mage in Lakeshire for hours on end and think that's actual "pvp"

Just avoid his server, desu I was looking forward to streaming because maybe I can stream for 50-100 people (would hate to be a big streamer) but when I realized what terrible wastes of human life follow streamers...

>and think that's actual "pvp"
It is though. PvP means player vs player. Killing a pvp flagged lowbie is pvp. Its not reward-based pvp, but its pvp nontheless. In fact Id argue that these types of people are what makes WoW such a great experience.

>can some lvl 60 come help, theres a "skull" rogue ganking us
>some lvl 60 goes to help and gets corpse camped
>he calls his guildies
>the cavalry arrives
>the rogue calls his friends
>BOOM, you started a warzone

Thats what this game is about. Having fun and enjoying the little things for no reward. Believe it or not, but logging in once or twice a weak and clearing a raid isnt what WoW is about.

If those kids want to experience the Vanilla jank then more power to them, but they're clearly being fed bullshit by streamers to make them believe that vanilla was perfection.

Nobody likes nuwow, only transfreaks from xiv scream how vanilla WON'T be based.

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rent free

That rarely happens desu, there's 1-2 ganks either direction and it stops. The people camping 20s in lakeshire like the guy mentioned are pretty sad because you'll at most inconvenience someone for 5-10 mins while wasting 5-6 hours of your life.

My gf thinks modern wow is better because she can dress up her character, fly around, and the gameplay is more fun.

What's the real difference between farming something in four hours and farming something in eight because you get spawn camped?

The BRM thing simply can't happen on normal sized servers.
With ~1000 people per faction you will very seldom see 3 raids camping the door (except on streamer servers).
On Northdale, you have chink megaguilds that bring in 20 raids at once.

>M-my hole seeeez
If you weren't a onions slurping faggot with zero T you'd know a hole's opinion is worthless.

>calling women holes
Damn bro, you ever consider you might be a virgin because of your perception of women?

I earn $130k a year and fuck all the holes I want.

I'm convinced most of the posters defending xreal-bgs did not even play vanilia. Server only bgs was one of the fundamental pillars that the server community was built around. Getting to know friends and enemies, and the getting to know you. Hell I expect most here did not even know when you entered a BG you were not even in a group. People had to invite you, which they tended to only do if you had made a name for yourself. Something you can't do with xrealm-bgs. The very day xrealm-bgs came out the community died. The very same day they were switch on it took only a few hours for players in AV to just avoid PvP all together and just run past each other.

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it's boring if you're a boring person.
youtube.com/watch?v=MEpv7YxnLCQ

that's why you go after streamers and follow them around for longer.
youtube.com/watch?v=e-bZJkj4j-o

Did you? It was good sometimes but on most servers it made queue times take days for the more populated faction and the least populated PvP faction got stomped constantly, making an unending cycle where nobody on that faction PvPed, so the stomping got worse and worse. It was only good on the couple of servers where the pop was perfectly balanced.

>The very same day they were switch on it took only a few hours for players in AV to just avoid PvP all together and just run past each other.
This happened because of the 1.12 changes to AV which nerfed and removed a bunch of mobs. Not x-realms.

I despise people who camp the same person for a while, but I'd pay you gold to kill + camp big streamers.

BASED

That's not really what you're talking about though, the funeral crash is fucking gold

>tfw got put in the battlegroup that had both ragnaros and quel'thalas servers
any time you popped into a bg and your team had more than 3 of those monkeys you may as well have just went afk

It's fun. Nothing else needs to be brought up, doofus.

I want to roll on a PvP server but all my friends are rolling on a PvE.

>implying
Women literally beg me to fuck them. Women ADORE power and ONLY power.
Again, you're a beta incel whose gf I'll always breed.
I bet you don't know what a deathgasm is, lol have sex incelord.

I don't see you denying it. Lowbie gankers need to be locked up, they're a danger to society

It was unplayable on some servers if you were on the more populous faction. Hours of queue time.

The tension adds to the experience

sounds like things only Hordes do

I hate to say it but... Wow is insanely boring after 15 years and classic won't change anything

Who else is taking the troll pill here?
I’m gonna have to get used to how armor will look on me as a prot warrior....

Sure you do.

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>prot warrior
>troll
dont do it user, you'll never compare to the horsecock

>+5% total hp
>useful in raids where you’ll never go under 15% health
>not taking superior troll threat boost instead
Tauren is 2005 boomer meta. Trolls are the true chads.

guild raid rivalry outdid bg rivalry, also going against the same premades for months on end wasn't fun at all

Alliance is usually the one doing the ganking simply because most servers have a higher alliance population.

>he doesn't take the Troll Warrior pill

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Legitimate question, after you all finish Naxxramas. What would you guys do afterwards? Ask for new content in the style of Vanilla WoW or just kinda stay in the last Vanilla patch as long as you can?

BC

I don't raid I like to PVP as well, but relentlessly ganking lowbies is the opposite of fun. I like to do more creative shit like mind control shadowmeld or roleplaying as WC3 heroes

Also
>lvl 60 Alliance ever coming to help with gankers

move on and play ps5 games

Ignoring how unlikely it is to happen, since Naxx is notoriously difficult, and assuming I've done all other world content I could find and was interested in, I'll just stop playing. Same as I do with any other game, once I beat it. I would like to see more content, either by going same expansions route, or by creating a new one to follow the design direction of classic. Either way, it's only another video game. Once I'm done experiencing all it has to offer, I'll just stop, and maybe return some time later to go over it again. I find the whole obsession people have with the concept of finite content stupid, all games are temporary, you don't keep playing any of them forever, that would be insane.

I want to but WotF is so hard to pass up, and man they would look so much cooler if they could just stand up straight.
Probably gonna end up going Alliance this time anyway though.

ask for new classic content, "classic" BC, or season like shit where everyone starts fresh again on new servers

I began playing WoW on release day.

First i experimented with different races and classes until i settled on a Troll Priest and leveled him to 60 and started going UBRS etc for months until I raided Onyxia and MC and later raided BWL a bit and then TBC was coming out.

After 2 years I never saw Naxx from the inside.

Which means Classic will give me content for at least 2 years.

>after you all finish Naxxramas

Not everyone who said they wanted to be an astronaut in school actually became one.

>year 2004+15
>wants to rush through content to avoid confrontations
>doesnt want to be part of the biggest zerg fest since 2005
Never gonna make it

I trolls but holy fuck do they look ugly in game
>two good hair cuts
>all faces make them look confused or retarded
>dont look buff at all like in artwork
>NO FUCKING SHOES

are you a woman, why do you care about shoes?

Hello fellow Prot Troll Warrior, I will see you at the gates of Orgrimmar.

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when youre talking about minecraft, then it is

Im more triggered about the lack of voodoo ooga booga masks, the game has only like two.

Troll Warrior!

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Fucking love trolls, but they're WAY too hunched over in-game. I'm ok with the berserker look, but it should be when they pull out their weapon - when they walk so hunched over they look proper retarded.

They'll roll out optional upgrade to BC.

>They'll roll out optional upgrade to BC.
I doubt it, it would split the community again. They never made an expansion in wow optional as well.

Who gives a shit what it would do, it's neo-blizz, all they care about is profit. In the end it's a good decision, doing a full expack cycle all over - plenty of people would redo the whole thing.

Yeh, old blizz might not do it because they protected the integrity of their games (which sucked, but was also a clever long-term decision), but neo-blizz won't care about that. End of the day, for them, it'll bring big profit. That's the entire idea behind classic anyway.

You're right...

5.0 is perfect though. :^)

>all they care about is profit.
Yes, and dying, under-populated servers kill people's interest to play.

Also, there is a huge unknown how many would switch to the new expansion? 20%? 50%? 80%? If >80% switch, there is hardly a reason to keep the servers open.

80% of the players in Classic will never make it to 60, let alone clear Naxx.

No shit, the game will be dead and buried before they even hit the phase where Naxx is implemented

>why play on pvp server if pvp can happen
Lmao get a load of this carebear

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Nigger classic is static content, it has a lifecycle of about 2-3 years. When its done, ANY % switching is a plus, even 1%.

Any hunter veterans here? What pet is better? A 1.7 attack speed wind serpent (pre ZG patch, so no LB6) or a 1.2 attack speed worgen?

Both for pvp and pve

what do you define as dead and buried?

Even if it has 80.000-100.000 regular players there is no reason to end the project. You think they can't keep 100k players for 2 years?

Are there any good private servers out there right now? It feels like it'd be a huge mistake seeing as most pservers will lose 90% of their population near classic release but I just want to have one last pserver experience.

Theres elysium, Kronos 3 and lightshope. All equally shit in their own way.

Get a separate pet for pve and pvp, pvp pets are according to playstyle, pve pet is lupos or I suppose from your choice a wind serpent.

Wouldn't recommend either for pvp though and don't listen to "just get broken tooth" or w/e for pvp, that's way too subjective.

Considering how fast BFA bled subs wow doesn't have a huge amount of players left. 100k players for a 15 year old game that has no future is a very generous number. Also remember that there's no way for Activision Blizzard to milk more money out of the classic fanbase without adding a cash shop which will just piss off their most loyal playerbase. It's going to be looked at as a failure beyond the first few months

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Lupos is nerfed in 1.12, so hes a normal worgen pretty much. On private servers Ive been using a wolf for raids and a cat for pvp, but I logged into my hunter for the first time in 2 years and all hunters (pvp and pve) only run around with a wind serpent.

The reason I ask, is because the only 1.2 attack speed worgen is a lvl 18-19 worgen in shadowfang keep and the only 1.7 attack speed serpent is arikara (lvl 28 quest).

So I basically have to make a choice at that level which of the two is worth lvling to 60.

As to BT, its a meme. Im not gonna waste 10+ hours for that shit.

Any input appreciated.

is this your fanfic edits? aspect of the beast is shit, why would you increase attack speed when you will fish for "assault" our counterattacks? It should give you melee DMG bonus not speed.

Your opinions on him?

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>You think you can stream snipe me?
>No one will invite you to a raid
>No one will care about your social status
>Good luck stream snipping me when I have DOUBLE your gear
>Good luck, get blacklisted
>Server will hate you I will have you blacklisted
>No one who stream snipes is good at the game
>I will run through you with levels and then with gear
So it's officially over. Sodapoppin just finished stream snipers wet dream.
>Stream snipping is extremely frown upon
Private server cucks got just BTFO. Sodapoppin will level up faster and get gear faster. Then he will win against everyone. No one will stream snipe him.

>I want blizzard to create a server where you can't stream snipe and it's frown upon
He just said that line for real. Jokes aside... Holy fucking shit can we actually get Sodapoppin banned from WoW?

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Ill take a boomer over a zoomer streamer any day of the week.

None

based

Brokentooth is a meme yes, but there are easily acquirable 1.2 Cats all over the place, most convenient would be level 37 Swamp Jaguars.

Deathmaw is a level 52 elite wolf with 1.2, so hes the BIS wolf.

Wind serpents are a more recent meta just because their focus dump is nature damage so for pvp they do more damage to players despite less pushback. For raiding they also work since you can micro them at 20 yards to dump lightning bolts into a boss if they can't get close due to mechanics.

Except if those players are part of specifically streamsnipe-focused guilds like some are planned to be, then blacklists don't matter. Including having moles in Soda's guild so they know where to roll.

>open youtube
>see recomended videos
>"Assmongoloid reacts to x", "Assmongoloid reacts to man reacting to thing "Assmongoloid takes fat cock on stream"
>report video for sexual content

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if he annoys you, ignore him.

If you like him, more power to you.

I just try to ignore him, but you idiots keep bringing him up.

He's very unintelligent, self-centered, obnoxious, narcissistic, badly behaved, and isn't knowledgeable about WoW. Can be entertaining at times, like any other monkey in the zoo.

Luckily the vast majority of players active ingame don't give a shit about streamers.

>Everyone needs a safe space from you evil Nazis

>Wind serpents are a more recent meta just because their focus dump is nature damage so for pvp they do more damage to players despite less pushback. For raiding they also work since you can micro them at 20 yards to dump lightning bolts into a boss if they can't get close due to mechanics.
Wind serpent it is then. Thanks for the input.

youtube.com/watch?v=wRzJDDxyZqk

Streamers should be ganked all day until they can't play anymore.

Nazi is a surprisingly good comparison actually. They win easily when they pick on people weaker than them but as soon as someone on the same level shows up they get rekt again and again.

Eh I can't remember things that well, I just remember pve pets make the TINIEST bit of difference once you have the top 3-4 (so cat's fine) and for pvp people always used to talk bullshit like:

>hurr durr get a fast attack speed pet to interrupt casters more
You're a fucking hunter, the situations in pvp where you need to interrupt a caster will happen once in a lifetime. People treat pvp like it's a static situation where people are within perfect range of each other, all cds and so on - i.e. a duel with equal gear. It's not.

Any big streamer is a cancerous piece of shit, because once you gain a certain following it molds you into the shitty clown they need you to be and any big following is composed of terrible fuckheads.

it will have to do, see ya in layer 6

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even - dwarf
odd - orc

what a hypocrite
clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulNastyClipsdadLeeroyJenkins

he was never really good but he pioneered male emasculation and sissyfication on the internet and pushed hard to get popular so now he thinks he can do everything, entitled manchild

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I'm kinda feeling like some WC2 desu, the campaign was so fucking cash. Iirc spellcaster troops also had like 50 spells. Am I gonna have to do shit like run a separate windows on my PC for it?

everything is correct except TBC is B+ or Wotlk is B-, they are not on the exact same level.

They are doing it for money, why have people forgotten this?

They are though. Wotlk was better in some ways compared to TBC and TBC was better in some ways than Wotkl. It evens out.

I'm going to roll a feral druid, I'm very good and can 1v1 any class, any gear, anything with r10 gear and offpieces. Also as a druid I'm virtually immune to backlash and give no fucks whatsoever since I need nothing but r10 gear and easy to get offpieces, no fucks given if I become his "server rejects".

Should I roll in the streamer server as Manchildmassacre or something and ruin these fuckers lives?

>25sec cd counterattack
you are just killing the class in pvp retard

Do it.

Honestly a pretty entertaining Dark Souls streamer.

I am gonna farm people in Menethil Harbor like it's 2005.

I personally am gonna farm Duskwood. Love that zone.

Actually all the cancer is American though, isn't it? I'm EU

Yeah naw, I just want to do quest and dungeons and fumble fuck around up to maybe bwl. I'm casual AF and will play on my casual server. Go follow a streamer around faggot.

that's fair, but those two have endless debates so i just put them together to avoid the whole thing. I view TBC as more of an addon (dlc) to vanilla, and WOTLK as more of a standalone game. WOTLK carried mostly by the fleshed out Northrend continent & villain to carry the game. WOTLK gets points for some PVP, while TBC gets points for PVE. The casualization while hitting fever pitch in late wotlk, started in tbc. Those two can be compared a lot but they are a def step bellow vanilla.
Cata the tipping point where it stopped being WoW.

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Same here Kamerad. Little to no cancer EU. Im sure theres a brit streamer here and there, but no zoomer magnets.

>Nazi's power being the same as the rest of the free world combined

Friendly reminder that France and England had 30% more divisions than Germany in 1940. Must be that famed US education.

What is the menethil/duskwood equivalent for alliance players?

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fair enough

>Cata the tipping point where it stopped being WoW.
absolutely true.

Crossroads

American, brit, german, same retarded crap. Servers organically split by region usually anyway, so who cares.

how does it work? You attack the guards. Barrens is not a pvp zone which made me really sad. It's like you can only grief if you're horde. Fuck horde carebears.

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Probably 1k needles or Stonetalon?

You guy lost /pol/, just accept it

Were talking about streamers in the EU. Not comparable to the cancer you have in the US.

boring :( kinda deserted. but def shit zones to chill out in.

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He's right though. Beating up things that can't fight back for hours on in is a deep psychological problem if you continuously derive enjoyment from it.

Imagine an baby ant hill, full of babies was on your lawn and you just stood over it with a hammer and bashed their brains out for days one end and never quit smiling. That's you bro.

First time I played WoW I pvp'd low levels like an asshole as "revenge" for all the times I got ganked

This time, I will just leave them alone

Yeah, but then he went on to explain that he does it but it's okay because he's an asshole. Soda's a cucklord faggot and you want his pinky dick in your dirty anus, user. Just admit you like twinks.

Good description of gankers

I have a personal rule. If they wave or emote a hello in any way, I let them live.

I just don't understand it. But you win. You can have my daily allotment of internet cookies.

BC wasn't really casualized, people kinda forget it was much more difficult than vanilla in many ways - it just didn't have the artificial difficulty of lack of information, for example and it had easy and quick leveling.

For example, in vanilla a total shitter could grind r14 and get everything he wanted, TBC required actual skill (and being the correct class, ofc) for gladiator gear. You could be a total shitter in 40 man raids up to about Huhuran+, but in 25 man raids it was a lot tougher and you had to actually have your shit together a lot more - also because less pressure fell on class leaders and more on the average joe.

TBC was less effort, for sure, since gear was laid out for you and all you had to do was fulfill the requirements, information was everywhere on the cookie cutter specc, most of the grinds were streamlined etc. but it was NOT casual at all.

Also BC was a big step up from vanilla, it basically improved every single aspect minus the world pvp, but it DID lose a lot of the "soul", which while making it a better experience does make people less nostalgia prone towards it.

Do you wave to them first, and then wait for the response?

Bullied kids who take revenge on the world are far too common. At least you didn't shoot up your school

Its not though. A good analogy is:
>you stumble upon a box full of baby lions
>if you let them live, 6 months later they will be fully grown and capable of killing you
>so you kill them over and over

Yeah I wave first.

Except you should be able to defend yourself? That doesn't make any sense.

dunno, i do ganking as a service, just trying to give you the authentic WoW experience. If you dont like it you're not a true wow fan, go play with teletubies. I buy the horde vs alliance. The more rivalry and hatred the better. Also fuck orcs, mudhut niggers.

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Seems like a good rule

there is also no guarantee that they will even attack you or run into you again.

Fuck you, I'm not wearing shoes and you'll like it.

what if you wave and they flee for their lives instead of waving back??

I meant that you said there's cancer brit streamers and brits are the same form of cancer as americans. I'm not american.

Then they have sealed their own fate with cowardice.

>tfw you level a Warrior and can't beat most classes 1v1 unless you get the jump on them so you just leave everyone alone
>they gank you anyway

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That's just rude at that point, so they die.

>Resist

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There's ganking and ganking, getting ganked is fine, having someone personally devote his time to not allowing you to play until you logoff is retarded.

Stay mad bro.

How is Wrath better than BC in anyway?

>far worse dungeons
>far worse raids (except Ulduar)
>far worse PvP (S5 DKs, S6 burst comps, S9 ArPen abuse)
>LFG cancer
>horrendous BG additions with SotA and IoC

There is literally nothing Wrath does better than BC except questing zones, and even then only a few of them.

Its called World of Warcraft, not World of Faggotcraft

i agree with most of what you said. I def agree with PVE kicking up a notch in difficulty in TBC, still the 40 man to 25 man is not positive. Managing 25 people instead of 40 to me is casualization, it's the step in that direction where eventually you end up with a single player RPG game instead of a MMO. The social aspect is why we play mmorpgs, otherwise i'd just boot up witcher/KCD.

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>I spend virtually all my free time slightly inconveniencing people for about half an hour at a time
>you're just mad
Yes I am, you're right, life isn't so bad, you should look to family for support, don't do it bro

liquidcode.org/~lostman/wow/dkeserver.se/stuff/angwe/

>better zones
>far better questing experience
>far better pvp experience with that gigantic pvp zone where you cant fly
>better city

LFG wasnt in the game until a later patch.

>mfw gonna make the Tauren Hunter I always wanted to

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don't forget the introduction of fucking DKs

>server flooded with DKs because they start at 55 and end their questline around 58
>one more retarded than the next
>have names like "Zombiebob"

I'm only going to roll males on PVP servers because imagine making a cute girl in WoW and she's basically your daughter and then someone ganks her and then teabags the corpse and will just kill you again if you res so you just have to sit there as a ghost while waiting for your body to stop getting molested. At least with a make character I can self insert and fap to the experience.

Get help

How about your protect your daughter then retard?

>better zones
Subjective, but I agree for the most part.
>far better questing experience
Literally 1% of the game.
>far better pvp experience with that gigantic pvp zone where you cant fly
Oh you mean like Quel'danas?
>better city
lol as if this sort of shit counts. If art mattered BFA would be the best expac.

Face it, Wrath is garbage everywhere it matters. And group finder was added half-way into Wrath.

What if the help starts teabagging your corpse too?
You can't always win.

>>better city

>The Virgin floaty magic city vs. the Chad Ancient Alien Metropolis

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tarren mill

>Oh you mean like Quel'danas?
The little island added a few months before Wotlk? Cmon man. Get real.

>Face it, Wrath is garbage everywhere it matters. And group finder was added half-way into Wrath.
Youre completely misunderstanding me bro. In my eyes, TBC and Wotlk are equal trash that panders to casuals and faggots.

Vanilla is WoW. Everything after is commercialized casuality. But Im not gonna pretend that TBC was better than Wotlk. They were equally shit.

>the Chad Ancient Alien Metropolis
You mean the big structure in the middle with a couple of stone huts?

youtube.com/watch?v=uIc_g4ZqHAE

>better pvp experience
WG was trash though what are you talking about

not saying his shit is good but it says the cd refreshes if your enemy dodges or parries an attack.

The drop from 40 man to 25 man did very little but put less effort/focus on officers and guild leaders and more on individual members. It was much harder to organize 40 people, true and 25 mans casualized that heavily, but it was also much easier to be part of a 40 man guild where officers micromanaged nearly everything you did, while in 25 mans you did most yourself.

It's called shitrash city for a reason. Also let me just crash this UFO shit in your lore.

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Wrath and BC are different animals, wrath was good on its own but it suffered from BC + Vanilla already having covered most major aspects. BC was too complete a game, so most of what Wrath did was too much.

Better than any pvp experience in TBC.

Who the fuck calls it that, Shatt had a supreme atmosphere and scryer vs aldor was cool

nah even QD was better than WG

Are you literally a toddler clapping his hands at fireworks? Shattrath was dogshit.

>never heard of shitrash city until now

cope harder, zoomer.

>actually taking your contrarianism this far

Just let it go. WG was a dumpster fire. Imbalanced mess on 90% of servers, and a shitty vehicle rush like all of Wrath's other failed PvP exploits.

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QD wasnt a core zone. It was the last patch before Wotlk. Plus those charging and punting guards were lame af.

not him but I thought it had a cool aesthetic

>city was dogshit
You must be the kind of person who identifies himself by which corporate brand he prefers. A city is a city, it's either nice or doesn't make an impression. You can say shatt is the latter, but you didn't, so yeh.

Youre right. Just like Nagrand pvp was legit amirite?

>QD wasn't a core zone
So what? It was still in BC, and better than anything Wrath had. WG added nothing positive, it was just trash.

also, I always thought linking a raid's access to a bg was a misguided idea and should've been thrown out immediately.

there was a symbiosis between people that wanted to be officers, and people that were led. 25 simplified it by making those two types of people not interacting anymore. The Guild show would never exist if it was 25man from the get go because tryhard culture is different. I get it, there's a argument that 25man try harding is opposite of casualization, but to me it just led into autistic lfg/gearscore culture and it just killed the soul.

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If you're talking about Halaa, the five or so times I actually got to do it it was about 10x the experience WG could ever hope to be.

>It was still in BC
Did you play TBC? It was a footnote towards the end.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA You fockin wot m9?

Halaa was trash. I would know, since I still have the 18 slot bag on my character I havent touched since Wotlk.

It being at the end doesn't make it not in BC

>dude spaceships lmao
>dude the Light is actually floating letter ayys all along lmao
>dude let's add elves to the horde, they love elves lmao
>dude let's make the draenei sexy goat people
>who wants to play as uggos, lmao
>dude resilience and arenas
>let's add flying mounts as well to make sure pvp is completely dead, lol
>dude waht if we made every zone BRIGHT GREEN AND PURPLE
>thanks doc lmao
Burning Crusade was garbage that only looks good because everything that came afterwards was ten times worse.

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Yeah. Way better than WG.
Imagine enjoying PvP vs Walls.

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kek i've played wow beta, you're probably a priv server zoom zoom

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>>dude let's make the draenei sexy goat people
unironically based

Gearscore led to an autistic gearscore culture. Raiding in 25 mans was totally fine, it did kill interactions a good amount since you no longer had the two communities that saw a reason to stick together (I was friends with all the people in my guild because we were the shitters and also friends with all others of my class, then afterwards became friends with the officer clique). But BC gave many other ways to have a community and was better at it, PvP in BC was a community due to arena teams and ranking, in Vanilla it was either nothing or a circlejerk premade for r14. Vanilla also had either huge clusterfuck guilds with a community or the odd leveling small community one that fell apart, BC had full endgame 10 man guilds that ran kara/heroics.

The difference here is that BC stuff was less memorable because the moments where it came together were less memorable and more just the norm.

>imagine unironically pretending to enjoy clicking a pile of fireworks and then flying around throwing bombs at NPCs guards

Everyone enjoyed Halaa when it happened, it just didn't happen.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't pretend Halaa is good, but at least I'm not a delusional dipshit like you pretending WG is.

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>>dude waht if we made every zone BRIGHT GREEN AND PURPLE
Hellfire was red, zanga was blue, terokkar was light blue to green, blade's edge was brown, shadowmoon was more black than green, are you heavily autistic?

nope, i started playing a few days after release of wow.

I still have Benediction (and other vanilla shit) in my bank, if I need to prove it.

Brothers!

We must UNITE we should unite into a swarm of proud soldiers, soldiers united to slay all streamers, maybe some sort of Stream Slayers?

Some sort of elite army, an SS of sorts... Are you in mein bruder?

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>what is hyperbole
My point is that most Outlands zones were a complete eyesore to look at, especially compared to how beautiful Azeroth was. The exception to this would be Nagrand.

Fucking based, all hebes gased, all negros linched, all gays dragged, all streamers ganked!

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I distinctly remember how i stopped caring about other guilds when TBC hit, because there were too many of them and they lost their personality. It was just my tribe and others dident matter as much.

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you win this one boomzoom

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After Naxx is out for like 2 months, I would like them to add good itemization to past raids. Not replace items, not upgrade items, new items for different specs. Prot Paladin doesn't even need the taunt as much as it needs better itemization and threat generation.

The best bet for Classic is taking the good spec/class adjustments from TBC and maybe Wrath and slipping them into here appropriately. After that, just add stuff that was eventually done to Kalimdor/EK anyways. Kara, Grim Batol, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas region, Caverns of Time, some weird shit up on Hyjal

This is gonna have to be me because I refuse to buy a 15 year old fucking game with worse servers for 15$ a fucking month.

When it inevitably gets nuked to 9$ a month separate fee it'll be too late to get in without getting ganked 24/7. Dog bless u cock suckers

Damn, they look like a bunch of top lads
would have a beer with/10

Cry more please your tears are tasty

I love the clownsuits of TBC so much. Every piece of armor is so distinct so you can tell what everything is.
>Those green plate shoulders from Ramparts
>That Arakkoa spear from Auchindoun
>That weird Draenei 2h axe from the Nagrand arena
Literally peak soul. Every expansion since wrath all the gear you get while leveling looks the same, it's so boring.

this.

Especially fury warriors complained that they looked like clowns. But you knew what they were wearing and you could instantly see who knows his shit.

I didn't post my image, but here.

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I'm not the guy you were talking with, but the Outland zones definitely go overboard on their color schemes. Nagrand is the only one to not overwhelm with a single color.

never forget

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I would unironically be thrilled to have enhancement updated with their BC skills and some tiered gear of their own

im playin a tauren ele/resto shaman and no one can stop me

wrath imo had the best armor color schemes

how would you feel about a retro aesthetic light blue and purple one?

Ladies ladies you're all beautiful.

This.
I can immediately tell the healer is on top of the game when I see pants of the naaru.

>every stream is run by obnoxiously loud faggots with huge facecams
>they're doing SM on repeat
The fuck is this shit? I just want a comfy backdrop

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I already did this 14 years ago and was the only one on my server with AQ gear, so there's no need, user.

>make a level 1 orc
>take four and a half hours to finish the first quest because there are 12,000 people in the same area trying to kill boars
home...

I know right?

What is this shit? Show me some old quest lines etc.

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>four and a half hours

Sounds like you're realm is underpopulated bro. It took me twelve to finish it on mine.

caster gear in naxx is completely out of control, as in warlocks killing literally anyone in a deathcoil, mages comboing people in a grenade stun

>honestly removing resilience would be a big plus for tbc
retard.

people who havent at minimum achieved gladiator should never comment on pvp.

>he doesnt know

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BROS, NOT LIKE THIS. NOT LIKE THIS!!

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heil yeah

Gladiator here.

Resilience is what split pve from pvp and thats a nono.

bros there's been like 5 500+ post threads about FFXIV in the time it took this thread to hit 350. Why are these threads so slow? Do you not like the game? Is classic dead before it even launches?

so locks are kings of end of vanilla? What about spriests and melee?

Also does anybody know if real night is in classic client?

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