CTR:NF Thread Pre-E3 Edition

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>e3 news
Just announce a new Crash platformer already.

She has light fur in her inner thighs

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this is normal bandicute anatomy

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Im fearful of an original platformer. Would really like to see them pull it off.

if none of this happen, I'll be so disappointed.

If they are gonna do a new game, at least fix the physics issue from N.Sane Trilogy. It didn't make those games unplayable but it sure brought on a lot of annoyance. Or if they choose to keep the physics and pillboxes, at least design the new game 'around' it so it won't be as noticeable.

No, the other one.

Well I don't blame you for worrying about it but that future tense level was pretty good right? I think they have a decent shot at making a good game.

Man, it's got to the point that I've set myself up for disappointment. We don't even know if the trophy girls are back let alone playable but god I want them playable.

Is there actually much point to advanced characters when All Rounders and Accel racers can get plenty of speed with Sacred Fire?

THE WAIT IS UNBEARABLE!
Holy fucking shit, I haven't been this hyped for a game in a long time.

Im curious as well. If everyone has the same top speed then there isn't any point to have worse acceleration and handling

Only thing this game needs to be a 100/10 for me is Brio, Moe, Kong, and Tawna
Please beenox, hear my prayers

Same. Last time I remember attending this many hype threads was when Sonic Mania was on it's way. Those were good times too.

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Please reveal a PC port at E3 Beenox, please...

>he doesn't know that the trophy girls are already in

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I do hope you're right

I just want the game to be out already so I can't stop thinking about those fucking hands already

youtu.be/xuN7t5vyflU

All rounders take a lot of time and effort to reach top speed, speed characters are generally faster, even without reaching top speed. I honestly don't know what the deal is with accel characters as they are supposed to reach top speed fast, but for example, beating Oxide's ghost with Coco on Coco Park is notably harder than beating him with a speed character.

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110% Based!

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I feel like I deserve this mockery for bringing up the hands most of the threads I could (when not banned).

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Based user

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Would she get voice lines? Who should do her voice if she got in?

I feel like she would only do basic grunts like Crash, given she had no actual voicelines in her game.

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I'd prefer she had voice lines such as "whoo" "Yeah" and "oh fuck MEEE PINSTRIPE"
stuff like that

Tawna says she can't make it, shes a bit tied up at the moment

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Was she just playing with a yoyo?

mary elizabeth mcglynn

Did they even confirm that this would show at E3?

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You think this artist lurks here?

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I can't believe Beenox paid that much attention to detail. Here's the list of small details that haven't been tested and I hope are in the final game:
1. Accel with the right stick up, like the original game
2. You can hear characters react while getting hit with something, Even if they're not close to you (this wasn't on CNK)
3. You could get your item faster if you mash the "item launch" button
4. Velo mask for Oxide Team and CNK bosses.
5. Penta having "Penguin Yay one" and "Penguin Yay two" as voicelines
6. CNK Boss hoverbike.

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Possibly.

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well if hes here: I love his cocos

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That was a fake, user. Somebody drew it in his style just to fuck with people.

I'm not entirely sure if they'll keep the analog stick for gas thing, but I can see the Triggers being used like every modern car game.

If nina looked close to this i'd be happy. This is the perfect amount of cute ugly

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well they DID draw this

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Also the "be still, my aching heart" or whatever the name of that pose was.

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BEEEEEEENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXX

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Actually, I drew that imitating his style. Also this.

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If lets say only the championship bikes, fake velo and Penta were the only unrevealed content left to show, would that put you off the game?

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Yes, there is no reason to not add Brio and the rest.

Pretty sure someone confirmed 3. They won't include Velo because CNK characters and Oxide Team can be used in Adventure mode, which has a mask tell you all the tips and tricks, so they are probably just sticking to Uka for that.

Naked bandicoot here.

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Let's be honest though lads. Even though this will be an instant 10/10 best kart racer ever (at this point it seems clear the physics are close enough to the original) ...

THE ART STYLE IS UGLY AS FUCK

>5. Penta having "Penguin Yay one" and "Penguin Yay two" as voicelines
This seems very unlikely to be kept in, it was obviously a glitch and wasn't even present in the PAL version

I think fake velo and championship bikes will he announced when they show off hyper spaceway for the first time, its only fitting.

It's gonna be at least one of his voicelines, for reference's sake

It's the best Crash has looked since 1999.

I really wonder what they're gonna do with Hyper Spaceway. Like half that race was antigrav. Really like the new Electron Avenue, but not so hot on Out of TIme without going up the clock

It'll be different for sure, but I hope they keep the portals and space theme going, along with the Colosseum.

OoT edit was kind of predictable, Electron Avenue edits made it a bit too long in my opinion. There's that stretch where you go from the south to the top in an almost straight line and there's no boosts, nothing interesting. Makes me slightly worried for Thunderstruck and Hyper Spaceway. Before it was clear that CNK tracks were sticking to the alien theme I was thinking Hyper Spaceway could be based around the path that leads to Cortex Vortex during the boss fight in Crash 2, but who knows now.

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I got 31 seconds on my first ever time playing crash cove in nitro fueled, even looking at speedrunners from OG CTR it was actually a very good time. I was even able to take the shortcut in sewer speedway with ease.
Still got it after god knows how long

I would have had the fastest time at the con but some fucker got 28 seconds using 2 aku aku masks.

The streamers playing the game not knowing how to drift was terrible advertising on beenox part, the game is so boring and slow and many comments just think that's all to it.

Fat guy in a spyro costume?

cant remember but he played it smart and made sure he had a uka mask right before the 3rd lap started, I just went for it and stayed consistent.

If you're on about comic-con in London then it was probably either the spyro guy or me.
On crash cove he used 2 masks and got either 27 or 28secs on a lap.
They later switched it to Tiger temple and I did the same strategy against someone.

Nah, only Crash looks off... well Cortex is yellow now and Characters like Dingodile, Coco and Pura certainly look different but I don't think they look bad. And N.Gin, Tiny and Komodo Joe look waaay better than before.

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That would genuinely lower my hype for the game.

tiger temple? Shame I never got that chance. I couldn't win all my races either because of too many warp orbs pushing me back.

it's not real though

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whatever happens, DLC will always be an option.

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I'm more concerned about stuff like this and the quality of the online. But hey, now we have patches and shit.

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>N.Gin
>better
I kind of disagree. His coat looks fine, but the head is weird. They should have layered his hair a bit more, redid the eyes and fixed the shape of his missile.

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>Cortex is yellow now
Wish they would dial that back a bit.

I honestly forgot that this is actually a real voice clip
youtu.be/g4wscexUVhM

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>inb4 its just Tpose models and the devs wont admit they fucked up because of the trophy girl hype

>save me Crash
>Tied up with Crash's yoyo

She's either really dumb attention seeker or horny, probably both

holy fuck

Surely this is due to being an early build?

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The deal with advanced characters, at least in the original game, is that once you lear how to maintain always a boost, there is no way that other characters can compete. The hard thing is that you really have to learn the best way to do the turns and shorcuts with them, so it will take more time to master each track, but once youve done it, hardly anyone will beat you.

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>playing n.sane trilogy with the original music and even some pre-console music patched in
much better

hope flicking between music is really simple, I'd like to make direct comparisons.

>tfw you just now realise that spongebob was such a fantastic show that the main cast are actually close in size to their real counterparts
I miss Stephen

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god battle for bikini bottom really out shun the pokemon news yesterday for me.

I mean at least now he doesn't look like he has lipstick, and he doesn't look like a zombie either. Using Zembillas art is cheating tho, we are never getting a Crash game that looks as good as that

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>Any hopes for E3 news?
60fps version :)

Impressive user

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>we are never getting a Crash game that looks as good as that
Nitro Kart came close for N. Gin, but had a weird rig that some parts of his torso would morph or twist unexpectedly. Also no ears, which was kind of offputting

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Speaking of N gin, I always liked how the further the series went on his skin turned from pale, green than blue. Like it was rotting as a side effect of his rocket keeping him alive. And how he slowly start turning more insane the longer it went on.

Even if it turned out it wasn’t intended its still a good touch

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E3 Biggest expectations?
>Fake Velo and Championship kart reveal with hyper spaceway
>Penta playable
>Biker crash skin
>Trophy girls to make an appearance in slide Colosseum

Hopes
>Tawna, Koala, Nina, Moe and Brio all playable
>Trophy Girls also playable
>Coco cortex as a skin

I think you put more thought into that than the people that redesigned him.

Damn, I like that headcanon

I also expect every track to be shown in some capacity at E3, after E3 I don't expect any more surprises

I didn't like it. While enjoyable, felt like whoever wrote N. Gin at least for the radical era completely lost sight of him as a character. Stylistic choices I can live, and making him wackier was only expected but turning him into an over-sycophantic tranny igor was too far against the grain for me.

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>completely lost sight of him as a character.
They just didn't care.

As Sony isn't have a conference this year I expect a trailer to drop on their channel any day now, the anticipation is killing me.

I hope so, I also hope whoever is testing the game is really skilled.

Yeah, how did we get from this to that?. CNK did a great job with N.Gin.

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Coco Team Racing

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My god, Wrath of Cortex was legendarily ugly, even for 2001.

Wumpa status : Woah'd

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She was trying to do yoyo tricks but messed up crashes patented "Self tied" technique. Either that or tawna doesn't know how to spin

Can't wait for another Zem tweet from the official account today.

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Why did wrath of cortex look like ass?
Jak and Daxter came out 2 months after

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Megumi!

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Nitro Kart had the benefit of employing Naughty Dog designers which probably helped with the character design a lot. Actually a lot of CNK models look extremely similar to their PS1 counterparts, but with more added polygons

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Wasn't it also the last game to keep their original characterizations mostly intact before the flanderization period started? I know it was also the last game to feature Clancy Brown's Cortex too.

Yeah Nitro Kart was the last game where they felt like their original selves.

I'm pretty sure N.Sane Trilogy characters will be playable, at least Brio. It would make 0 sense if they didn't include them. Is just a matter of time, same with Penta and Velo. Nina and the trophy girls are less likely, but they teased them so until 100% deconfirmed, there's hope.
THIS is what we need to have in mind: Now you unlock bosses by winning their challenges. So the reward for winning the Gem cups has changed. Let's suppose that Fake Crash is unlocked with the same method. That would left 4 cups with 4 new characters.

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>flanderization period
That depends on who you ask. Uka Uka became significantly less sinister in CTR and WoC, and Cortex himself was losing presence as a villain since before Warped. If you mean game tone, I would agree CNK was probably the last Crash game that retained the series' original sense of humor.

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Twinsanity started it whether you want to defend the game or not.

Cortex doesn’t have ears and one of his gloves isn’t colored properly
There I ruined the photo for you

E3 is ONE WEEK before release. Why would they be stupid enough to NOT to use the BIGGEST gaming event of the year to build hype?

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boostalicious

We are 2 weeks from launch yet we have had ZERO (0) Switch gameplay.

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E3 is in a couple of days. Has there been no footage after E3 then it's definitely a cause for worry.

I fucking hope it runs well, I want to get it on Switch.

Honestly, Twinsanity looked and still looks great and had a fine sense of humour. It was just an unfinished mess of a game, mechanically speaking.

The Orb really lacks presence now. I like the new clock effect with the slowed down music though

It's crazy to think just 3 years ago Crash seemed like one of the least salvagable IPs, maybe second only to Sonic. Really hope there is a good original entry to the series on the horizon after this

hell yes

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>Really hope there is a good original entry to the series on the horizon after this
This is the worry honestly. Imagine if for whatever reason they blow it again.

Crash Tag Team Racing 2

It's not a question of whether they'd choose not to, it's whether they'd be able to. All the marketing has been done using the PS4 and through Sony's channels, and with them not even showing up to E3 this year, it'd be weird to suddenly see them jump onto Microsoft or Nintendo's presentations to do the last piece of marketing. Unless Crash was getting into Smash or something but that's a whole different discussion.
Point is they might be contractually obligated to market the game using the PS4 version.

I unironically liked everything about Tag Team Racing except the actual racing. The platforming and die-o-ramas and stuff was kino

>I unironically liked everything about Tag Team Racing
This is part of the reason I worry about a completely new game, who are they going to aim it at.

People that bought the N. Sane Trilogy.
What worries me is that could easily lead to another Warped clone.

Yeah another WoC situation. At the end of the day if we get nothing else out of this except for N. Sane and Nitro Fueled I won't be too sad.

Ok but have they confirmed they'll be showing stuff?

no

That "zembillas" pic is fan art ffs

Things that give me hope is that they already have the game engine/structure from N.Sane trilogy, so it will be similar to what we know and not weirdly slow/floaty like WoC was, and that they were able to create Future Tense, which was a pretty decent original level.
It at least suggests VV will be able to create more decently playable original content, if nothing else.

Here is your trophy girl tonight.

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I actually wouldn't mind this

kek, based

Just because Sony isn't there doesn't mean they can't show the game running on a PS4. That makes zero sense. There will be plenty of games at e3 that will be on ps4 and will likely be shown on ps4 or pro. sony isn't there but every dev has a ps4 dev kit that they bring or whatever. There are plenty of shows that aren't tied to either sony, MS or nintendo and they can reveal the last info there. Sony aren't ignoring E3, they just aren't attending it, so it's still possible to advertise through their channels as well.

Yes. They said in a stream that they have "a lot of stuff to show", whatever that means.

yes, they have. It was in a stream, I believe. I can't remember the time stamp. I'm sure some other anons can, but they have confirmed that there will be stuff shown.

nah, his art is too safe and he never makes any mentions of user. Most artists who posts here also at some point or another directly speaks to user, or includes user as the one being fucked.

user who did this and like maybe one other artfag skims this thread

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I will be anxiously awaiting that drawing of Tiny punching Coco in her cute little cooter

Wall-to-wall Tawna showcase on stage. All the skins, all the poses. Hardcore rule 34 cutscenes. Live sex show. Curtains. Activision win E3.

>Moulin Cortex at E3

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>On the stage... mascot Crash enters with the four Trophy girls accompanying him.
>Everybody is here
>Yes, EVERYBODY
>Even Yaya Panda, Rilla Roo and CTTR characters

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Just announcing all the girls are in in the first minute then its 29 minuites of hard core 3d rendered bandicoot pounding to various crash soundtracks.

They could make it like Battlefield's special reload animations, where the "penguin yay 1" and "penguin yay 2" voice lines have a very small chance of triggering

How likely is tawna to actually get included? I feel like they just want to move on after having to include her in NST

youtube.com/watch?v=hpevyPrwIio

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No less likely than the other missing ND characters.

I don't think she'll be in the game at launch, but i would say that DLC with the left-out OT characters is a pretty good bet, kind of like how they remastered slippery climb for the NST

The fun continues down at the booth all week!

youtube.com/watch?v=QTGZlcW3dnw
LAUNCH TRAILER

I'm so close... *burp* you could taste it

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I have a feeling the only remaining characters are Penta, Fake Velo, Nina, N. Brio, and Spyro.

Badger crash a cute

Still nothing on new characters, might be it then.

all they've said is this, but it's nowhere near anything concrete, so who knows

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>Zam as the first racer you see.
They really have a hard-on for him.

C'mon E3, save this game.

>Spyro Zam
>Hyper Spaceway
nice

Fake Velo confirmed?

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FUCK THE HYPE IS GONNA KILL ME

Is Fake velo deconfirmed? He's got a hologram unlike the others so is he watching the race?

>Is Fake velo deconfirmed?
No.

I need the odds on the trophy girls being in bros...

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heres hoping

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50%
either they're here in this picture and they're in, or they were cut for some reason and they're not

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They are pushing their CNK stuff really, really hard
almost every track showed up on the trailer are from CNK

youtube.com/watch?v=-vR70ZDbOEw
still no trophy girls.

20% at this point. Its sad but i can forgive that if make Tawna and Brio playable characters

i guess they're trying to emphasize that it's got all the CNK content in and it's not just a straight remake of CTR
dunno who wouldn't know that by now though

Yeah it's a little aggravating at this point.

I'm retarded, didn't notice this was already posted

I saw new tracks. Can anyone confirm?

Youd be surprised

Those space jumps are definitely from hyper space way rather than uranus' mine.

>honk
>honk
>honk
>...honk

The trailer has but me in a really bad mood. I'm cant see anything new being added now.

now i can fap to it

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they're not going to reveal anything new in a launch trailer when they're going to be at E3 next week

So in new Hyper Spaceway instead of racing outside the tubes you will now race inside of them and there are no teleportation portals. Kind of boring.

it's the launch trailer, you won't see anything new until you play it.

Is that one with Pura at 0:41 Thunderstruck?

There going to have to find a way to bridge the jump between the starting line and the first jump, though

I dont think this or the remake trilogy have got crashes look right

>Any hopes for E3 news?
Tawna and Brio as playable characters
That's all i whant that is not already announced

I think most people agree.

you would have to drift for ages in the original to spin out
spinning out that fast is stupid

I don't get all the honking either lol
>inb4 clown world

Hard to tell with how fast it went by and me not being at my pc to zoom and enhance. But the architecture in the background looks like phenomena buildings and the sky is a yellowish green so probably thunderstruck

yes

Looks like it.

>Tpose
That is not a T pose at all.

>le wacky XD
will we ever get slightly edgy/dark crash back?

Nope.

a very quick shot of hot air skyway from the trailer

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Nah. Games/Cartoons are not allowed to be both for kids and grown ups anymore, they have to be one or the other

Looks like Pinstripe finally got that Balloon/Casino.

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I guess is related to the attitude post Twinsanity they are trying to push

Crash is wacky and funz and appeal to children with our random humor

It also helps that Pokemon looks like fucking shit too. Thanks for nothing, Game Freak.

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I'm mad that it seems like no new characters at launch (they're taking the piss with that spyro Zam)
But I'd be playing coco 24/7 anyway,

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They've been taking the piss in general recently.

Any new articles that came with the launch trailer?

Kek
The dude in charge of this remake looks like a Crash autist, so i have high hopes for new characters

I dont see it desu

nice

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Maybe I missed it before or something but is there confirmation that the music toggle affects the CNK tracks on top of the CTR ones?

Yeah i noticed that too but i am unsure. Tawna or Coco?

It's a decal too.

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Coco.

Looks like Coco

Launch trailer doesn't mean the final trailer, we got the coco trailer after the launch trailer for N-sane trilogy

Crash was always wacky. A big part of the appeal of the OG games was the animation.

>To avoid gambling laws, Pinstripe uses money from his sanitation company to open the world's first zero-gravity casino/raceway over the south pacific. Airships loaned from Cortex Systems

Not a chance sadly.

That's a good point. The game is pretty much done right now, but that doesn't mean they aren't hiding anything. Penta is still unseen as are the majority of the remaining tracks.

What's the "in-game extra" you get for preordering digitally?

The same content that the physical edition

yeah man I miss the "shitty T-Shirt shop on the boardwalk" edgy Crash
he was always pretty cute and wacky in the game, it was only the promo art that made him look edgy

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which is?

This.
What the fuck are people on about? When was Crash ever edgy in the OG?

I'm assuming he's using edgy in the lightest context and means it wasn't as cartoonish and silly as Twinsanity onward.

Literally the only time Crash was remotely edgy was Titans and that was dogshit

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Crash was never Shadow the Hedgehog tier or anything, but there was always an element of more mature themes present in the original generation.
>And a woman with nice big...bags of ice for my head!

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I was replaying the N. Sane Trilogy since I wanted to get the platinum trophy on all 3 games, but man fuck relic trophies specially on the first game, I don't think that game was made with speedrunning levels in mind.

I guess I can get that, then. I do feel like some things in Twinsanity (Academy of Evil) and especially later games like CotT and MOM went way too over the edge.

I also kinda hated how Cortex went from a bitter scientist, to being depressed and wanting to quit, to saturday morning cartoon tier.

That said, Brio coming back as a petty bitch because everyone assumed Cortex invented the Evolvo Ray was hilarious. "READ YOUR BIBLE, I WROTE IT."

It wasn't edgy but mutating unwilling animals and turning them insane isn't the most tame thing for kids. The mutation and animal experimentation has always been a underlying darker theme

>I don't think that game was made with speedrunning levels in mind
Well obviously.
At least they added the speed shoes to Crash 2.

So was Titans good because it went back to the animal mutation stuff?

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Actually i did like that aspect of it. Titans and MoM are bad crash games but at least they remember that mutating/changing the animals was a major thing of crash.

Problem with titans and MoM was they went too silly with it. Love N.Brio but milking Uka Uka is kind of a piss in the face

Pancakes!

>N.Brio
my name sounds like a fetus

yes but it makes it a hell to platinum crash 1, i usually like to plat my fav games but i think i'll have to skip crash before i start to hate it, is getting plat on crash 2 and 3 that hard?

HONK HONK

crash 3 not really
crash 2 has a couple of really hard relics but that's about it

Where do you get off calling me a clown? With your big head and stupid springy hair!

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I have no doubts that the director wanted to put in all the missing ND characters. My fear is that Activision decided to make them all paid DLC. I just really hope Brio is in the base game. He deserves it after all these racing games without him.

Could a Season Pass with new tracks and characters work?

I am losing hope bros.

PC release when?

at least 8 months away

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guys its time to accept that the trophy girls are gone
like why would they hide them this much?
those hands could be coco or accidentally been left in
there's no reason to hide the trophy girls as a surprise reveal
I mean they'd probably want to underplay that aspect as much as possible to avoid frothing internet journalist outrage and having them be a reveal would be the opposite of that
you could argue that they're hiding them before release to avoid such a thing too but the article triggered by a sudden inclusion wouldent help and I dont think they'd honestly want to try and smuggle some titty bandicoots I doubt its that important to them

I think its more likely they're just not in, the esrb says nothing of them and they even removed the mention of slavery
they're going hard child demographic with non of the adult leaning the games used to have just like spyro and so on

as for tawna my doom senses are tingling and I dont think she's in which is a shame cause they already compromised by toning her down and they could have done the same with the trophy girls
that being said I think tawna is a million times more likely than trophy girls at this point

some said in the comments that the car honks when you push the item button when you dont have one

the sole reason why pre-ordering is worth it, at least you don't have to pay extra to get this.

I wouldn’t expect anymore then what we have seen now. Maybe one more character from e3 but the trophy girls are gone. Smh.

kk then i'll skip 1 and go for 2 and 3

I'm going to wait until e3 in a few days. If not then, we will riot.

>we

the Electron Skins

and if you preordered on PS4, add the retro skins for Crash, Coco, Cortex and Turbo Track

>those hands could be coco
two cocos in the same place?
>or accidentally been left in
these trailers are not just thrown together wildly, everything in will be watched and rewatched and subjected to large amounts of oversight and quality control, it's very unlikely anything will be just left in as an "accident"
>the esrb says nothing of them
the esrb also says absolutely nothing about tawna for the N.Sane trilogy, if they've had their designs toned down similar to hers then there'd be literally no reason to mention them

but they still could have been removed since the launch trailer for a multitude of reasons, so it's all just baseless speculation at this point still
i just don't think because we haven't seen something YET, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all
we haven't seen gameplay or selection menu stuff for penta penguin, after all

Not him, yes we

>so it's all just baseless speculation at this point
This. Just wait and see.

honestly wont care if the trophy girls simply have some background cameo in the slide Colosseum or turbo track, I'd have them be playable to care.

This is definitely correct. Crash used to be cool and wacky, but ever since Twinsanity he's just plain wacky.

>they even removed the mention of slavery
what?

All fair points and I'd failed to consider the esrb toning down bit despite mentioning toning down of tawna and stuff.

Was gonna pick up the game regardless, can't deny the heart they've put into this remake

oxide originally mentions making everyone his slaves if he wins
he doesn't say slaves anymore

this

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delete this

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I'm still holding hope for them to be playable.
Try to get inside Snoy's mindset for second: the problem is that trophy girls, in their original state, are objectified women.
How do you make them less objectified? You put them in the action, you make them active part of the party, you make them playable.
Will they be redesigned to be less sensual? Unfortunately it's likely. But I am confident they will be that.

This or they will be only a background cameo which is bullshit.

Evil Coco skin when?

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I'm so on the edge of buying the crash remakes for switch but I really don't like the new crash. Coco on the other hand oh lawd help me. Can anybody tell me if it's worth it?

I could see them at least having a reference to them in a single track and in a toned down or purely referential state desu
damn shame

You can change characters to Coco in all games except bosses.

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doitforher.jpg
she's cute as fuck

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one quick character trailer is all we need god dammit, what the hell will the gem cups unlock? Stickers?!

and Certain levels (Mostly the boulder levels) You can unlock Coco after the first boss fight in 1 and 2 (which is only 20 mins probably even faster I forget)

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Please, Beenox!

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stickers?

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That one empty spot triggers me, here I fixed it

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it seems almost nonsensical for them to be modeled, textured, rigged and animated to simply be in the game as a track cameo when that was never their original purpose in the first place
the main reason why they'd be cut would be over "concerns" over their appearance, so if they were able to be in an acceptable state where they'd be allowed by all parties involved to appear as a track cameo, why then wouldn't they be allowed to feature more notably?
something isn't going to be intolerable to feature prominently but exactly the same design to be a-ok as a background cameo
yes the chicken announcers look like they're cameos but they never featured in either CTR or CNK, so they have no mainline role in either of those games and thus only make sense to be a cameo if they show up

I meant referential as in not fully modled bandicoot boobies but like maybe one of their umbrellas is leaned up against a wall or something