Baldur's Gate III Reveal

I played the original BG games, how am I a zoomer?

This annoying bitch wants to tag along. Should I multiclass her into a mage?

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What did they mean by this

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who you gonna roll Yea Forums?
for me its human berserker 9 into cleric

Depending on how druids are I wanna play a druid/mage and fighter/druid

when and where?

I hope its turn based, with the OS focus on co-op. BG co-op was dogshit. I want people to spread out alot, be around the maps doing different things but easily being able to come together to continue. I liked the pyramids from OS, but it feels like they would be a tad much in a D&D setting.

RTwP sucks, turn based is just more interesting for combat encounter design.

What? How do you know?

It's already obvious what the game is going to be about forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kraken_Society

About 10.5 hours right now, way more than a couple but still close enough to be exciting.

It's on the Google Stadia briefing, meant to be the opening presentation, apparently. Referenced here;

Where would one watch the Google Stadia briefing user?

What if its a Stadia exclusive?

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>Larian """Humor""" will infest every corner of the game rather than staying out of the main story
>Every character will talk like it's modern day and use modern terms
Can't wait... ... ...

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>narrator-kun voices every sex scene
CAN'T WAIT

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I enjoy Larian, but i think they're a terrible studio to take Baldur's Gate. They'll do good gameplay, and overall game design, but BG was always pretty serious.
Larian can't do serious for shit.
Larian games are wildly infected with janky euro-humor and puns.
Do you really want Baldur's Gate/Faerun loaded to the gills with puns and slapstick humor?
I don't.

>Larian can't do serious for shit.
Nigger did you even talk to animals in dos2?

larian.com/
MUSIC LADS

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is this game made by the people who did dragonspear shit? if it is then yuck

and you go neck yourself

youtube.com/watch?v=NRWpOk1o9bI
No way this is Div

Why would you want a wife that randomly drops dead?

Yeah and they weren't serious. What point are you trying to make?
No. Are you a retard?

What!

HER TONGUE RUNS ALONG YOUR SHAFT
youtube.com/watch?v=J6hPHtzrfCQ

happened my first play through, totally forgot about her side quest.

I saved Jaheira AND she gave me sex! I killed her friends AND she gave me sex again! She IS a good wife!

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Still waiting on stonekeep 2

mite b cool

The writing for Divinity 2 was fucking awful I have no hope for the new one
inb4 hamster

BG introduced the cancer that is RTwP.

So if they do make Baldur's Gate 3 are they still going to use 2nd Edition D&D or 5th Edition. Are they going back to Faerun from BG2 or are they time jumping to current Faerun timeline?

Who cares. PC Baldur's Gate is shit. Dark Alliance forever.

Alright I'm gonna buy Baldur's Gate on friday lads. Do I want the Enhanced Edition or the original? Any mods I should know about or just vanilla for first playthrough?

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Jaheira will never be a mommy unlike the superior choice.

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Original ,no mods and enjoy.

She IS mommy she ADOPTED you FROM Gorion! Give me mommy wife!

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i know this is just feeding him but i fucking hate this fucking jaheira poster and i wish he would just off his autistic self already

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Same. Vapid cunt did the same in pathfinder threads.

beat planescape torment thought it was bretty good but dont really like baldurs gate stopped at the iron mine should i keep going? skip to 2? when does 2 get good? i hate the squad based combat so am i just fucked and wont be able to get into it?

EE and npcproject.

Baldur's Gate 2 DOES get good AFTER the first dungeon user!

Just play two. If you hate the combat you're never going to get past one.

Two the combat gets mildly easier but the difficulty spikes appropriately as you get higher in levels.

Enhanced Editions, just ignore the new NPCs

I would recommend no mods but if you really want mods there's the NPC Project which aids in restoring the characters a little bit.

Who are the new NPCS and why are they bad?

somebody answer me before the thread dies because Yea Forums is the only play where i'm gonna get an answer that doesn't tip toe around the problem

Dorn, Neera, Rasaad and Hexxat.

People dislike them because they're not as intriguing or have clear flaws in their writing and personality. Neera is the worst as she's annoying, Dorn and Hexxat are very bland and have little depth in their story, not nothing but only a little. Rasaad is the best out of the four in terms of having a good story and writing.

The best NPC isn't even one you can recruit in 2, Baeloth. You can recruit him in 1 briefly and in SoD. He's a Drow Sorcerer that has a very unique personality.

Also there's the two side-expansions they did, Black Pit I and II. They're fun but the ending in II is sort of bad and makes you regret playing through both of them.

retard

Presumably on Youtube user

Kill yourself, tranny.

Don't do that to me user, I don't need the added heart palpation to go with how nervous I'm feeling about this

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youtube.com/watch?v=k-BbW6zAjL0

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Zero fucking chance. Larian is still independent and probably wouldn't want to take a fat wad of money just to make BG3. I imagine they would have just been bought by Microsoft if that was the case

I'm assuming this is the Kraken Society's theme

honestly I'm hyped for having them as the villains. I REALLY loved the aesthetic of the Shadow Thieves in Baldurs Gate 2. Working with them was so comfy, in their underground tunnels and that luxury room, with the storage places above. I hope it's something similar.

What!

forums.beamdog.com/discussion/72850/bg3-confirmed/p7

This is a good thread to read and a lot of the opinions are reflective of the opinions here. Lots of people more skeptical than hyped.

if only google owned a site to host videos and live streams

>beamdog.com

Its tied to Stadia therefore it must be shit.

sorry I forgot to rename the link in a bit ly format so that you would go to it and not be scared by the boogeyman word "beamdog"

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Yup, its BG. I hope they don't fuck it up, but I REALLY hope it comes out this year

What's an ESL?

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English second language

>not the fixpack if going original
Are you just stupid or do you want others to go through the same shit as you did because you can't run a simple weidu-installer?

It gets good in chapter 3 at the earliest when it actually got direction.

>BG2 was a logical continuation of BG1 down to character levels
>BG3 will be a new thing altogether because how the fuck do you go forward from ToB
Why even call it 3 at this point? Oh right, marketing.

It could be set around the rebirth of Bhaal. The canon Bhaalspawn from Baldur's Gate, Abdel Adrian or something, is dead along with the other Bhaalspawn he fought. They both fought but the battle was so ferocious one of them emerged as Bhaal at the end of the fight. At least that's what I recall. That alone is a good premise for a new game.

ToB was a logical continuation of BG1, BG2 was, at most, a side story.

Supporting source
>Around 1479 DR, on Returning Day, his half-brother Viekang engaged Adrian in a fight in the Wide of Baldur's Gate's Upper City. The fight's winner was the last surviving Bhaalspawn and transformed into The Slayer, heralding the resurrection of Bhaal, god of Murder.[11]

Despite protests from those in the Lower and Outer City, Abdel had a somber funeral in the Upper City and his body was placed under High Hall, where those who claimed to love him most could not freely visit.[12]

forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Abdel_Adrian#cite_note-MiBGAB-p5-11

So yeah. This premise is good enough for a new game in the series.

no boo no buy

Came here to post this. It's just a petty excuse to ride with the already known and much loved franchise.

>Baldurs Gate has deep and mature writi-

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If Siege of Dragonspear is any indication, it'll be chock full of current year politics and transsexual propaganda instead of the fantasy escapism the series was always known for.

You should burn that avatar and her.

You will play it and you will enjoy it

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>what is comedic relief
That was Beamdog. Beamdog isn't making BG3

As far as I know, Larian isn't knee-deep into politics.

Original, then play a first run (Normal diff, dont ear any faggot saying "muh Extreme diffculty" because you don't get more XP/Gold/Items as per D&D Table)

Then mod it for the next runs.

Avoid Enhanced at all cost.

>all replies are just WHAT DID U JUST SAY TO ME YOU BIGOTED MANCHILD
What went so wrong

>Nobody gives a shit about a BG
ftfy
fucking arcane ass crpg bullshit go die boomers

>every reply implies the player character is offended by the name calling
I couldn't be happier that BG3 was taken from Beamdog.

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Why are you here?

But you have so many options to pick from so you can pick exactly what your character would say
Don't you like your RPing having choices and consequences, user?

>>what is comedic relief
Something that apparently only is okay when your favourite company does it

>look mom I posted it again

seething bigot

>They're gonna shit it up with turn based and their shitty humour.

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Go back

>A DnD game is turn based
oh the horror

Not him but:
one comedic relief character
vs
everyone is the comedic reliefe character

I don't know user, maybe he was right on that one

*BOOPS UR NOSE* UwU

nice opinions

>Larian
>"Ho there, wench!"
>1. [UNDEAD] *Look undead*
>2. *Ask him if he wants to trade.*
>3. *Pull a humanoid leg from your backpack and offer it to him.*
>4. [POSSESSED] Kill the elf. Kill the elf. Kill the elf.
>5. *Shrug.*
>6. [MYSTIC] *Search his eyes. Search his soul.*
>7. *Take your leave.*

>everyone is the comedic reliefe character
Except that's not the case except in select instances that people like to post to death
The story can be serious when it needs to be

OH LORD HELM PLEASE SET THIS GAME IN CALIMPORT

>Except that's not the case except when it is
oh user....

Or maybe in Baldur's Gate

They are opinions but Larian also isn't dumb, OS succeeded where most CRPGs don't by being super accessible and co-op. It will be turn based and in the trailer show off co-op.

>implying there's any reason to be hyped about it after the garbage they put into II's remake
>google

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her voice actress(the best part of her) has gone MIA for that last several years

>8. (You) Display your retardation for all to see

but they'll keep the sjw shit out of it most likely, better than David Gaider or someone like that doing it.

>II's remake
>implying it's the same company

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BG2 had choices and consequences?

No. it'll take place in The Moonshae Isles

based, I loved the older ones. played them and NWN and such when I was a kid. I'm always down for a new rpg. I didn't like Pillars very much but I did enjoy Kingmaker recently.

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>9. *Say his shitty story is meaningless to (you). Consume his Source.*

>beamdog
More like dogshit. Fuck off.

Turn based combat is fine. Their shitty humour is worrying but hopefully them using an established IP will mean they will stick to the tone of other DnD games. The thing I'm most worried about is the characters in the game. I liked D:OS2 but too many of the characters were a bit too wacky for my taste. Having 1 or 2 comedic characters is fine, like Minsc in BG or Morte and Mordom in PST, but when over half the cast is comedic characters it really makes the setting feel fake.

the writing in divinity original sin was fucking god awful, it improved a lot in 2 when they started to take shit semi-seriously.

baldur's gate is a garbage city

Waterdeep > Neverwinter >>>>>> Baldur's Gate

Won't be. At worse it will be an early access exclusive or something but why would you play an RPG in early access.

>Playing with sprite outlines on
Yikes

t. Sarevok

>Moonshae Isles
I'll take it!

amn > baldur's gate > candlekeep > beregost > neverwinter > waterdeep

They better release it on steam, or I'll just pirate it. Who the fuck do these pieces of trash think they are?

Who cares, it's a Dungeons and Dragons game made by Larian, that's reason enough to get excited about it. It being called Baldur's Gate just means its going to be set in one of the more interesting and fleshed out locations in the setting which is a good thing.

>google
>not worse

No epic store, no buy.

google didnt make the game you dipshit

No, it's by the people behind the Divinity series.

youtube.com/watch?v=4qaWLtfN-Lw

this nigga get it

Divinity 2 doesn't even bad humor, and im starting to get annoyed with you joke cops focusing on like 2 meh lines while ignoring the shit in your favorite games at the same time
Some of you retards unironically got upset when they did the lizards are good at sex meme
Like imagine getting mad at a fantasy race cucking you

A turn based game would be the best possible thing they could show off this garbage system with.

Turn based keeps the input delay from being nearly as noticeable. We're all fucked.

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I bet you also love the 5th edition

Divinity 2 is a different game, buddy.

>no Ten Towns

Icewind dale > the rest of Faerûn

FACE MEEEE

>larian made divinity 2
>there making bg3
>"there going to fuck it up with their shit humor"
>humors not even bad
>"Divinity is a different game"
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I'd play a new one

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It's a different game from D:OS2, you sentient shit stain.

lad I'm on your side in this stupid battle but dont respond to them

its people complaining and grasping at any straws they can

Anyone here try the Warlock kit mod for 1 & 2? Is it fun or should I just stick with the EE kits?

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if you've played the games numerous times and tried the various kits, go for it

dont go for modded kits usually though, most are OP

user baulders gate like most dnd is campy adventure shit
Just stop getting so mad over everything dude

I hope we finally get to see elminster pemanently turn edwin to a girl

>Neera

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Is it an mmo?

based and comfypilled

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What could go wrong, you ask?
>Turn based but to 'make all actions feel equally important' everyone is always restricted to only 4 AP
>Item and level scaling is completely fucked and scales exponentially so you need to replace every single one of your character's items every single time you level up.
>You-Enemy-You-Enemy round robin turn based combat - Even if your party of high initiative character ambushes a pack of snails the snails will somehow still manage to retaliate before you get a chance to attack them
>Increasing your stat and ability levels do nothing except add 5% damage
>Secondary health bar armour system that completely negates most spell and ability effects unless the target already is on the verge of dying
>Bloated stats and armour system means CON and other defensive stats are pointless; character building is simply maxing nothing but your primary damage stat
>Supposedly an explorable/open world, but due to the aforementioned level scaling you will always be railroaded into progressing through the areas in the same order on all of your subsequent playthroughs
>Shoehorned (and mostly useless) crafting system which requires you to systematically open every single container so you can loot fifty thousand different crafting components and miscellaneous materials
>Food and potions are mostly useless because their effect doesn't justify the in-combat AP cost due to the 4AP restriction
>The town guard, the city's stray cats, homeless lepers, and other thieves will all unite to fight you to the death if someone sees you steal a carrot but it's okay because all cRPGs must have thievery
>Positioning and choke points are negated by nearly everyone having in-combat teleports, blinks and jumps
>Respec/stat redistributions for the entire party are free and removes all sense of consequence and progression when building and customising your character(s)
And chances are the game still will be better than most of the other shit infesting the genre

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okay now that youre hypothetical worst case scenario D:OS2 checklist is done, how about we wait for actual gameplay

Sex with your mother is an mmo

same but if the game is a tie in with descent into avernus, then edwina and all our human companions are probably dead

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user you know its possible for companies to make two separate franchises, right?
I was kind of on board with you until you said restrict to 4ap
likes that's clearly not going to happen and you need to chill the fuck out dude

That's reality tho.

It's what happened in their previous game :^)

I liked pillars1+2 and want to play the games they were trying to imitate ?
Which baulders gate should i play first or does it not matter?

no divinity 1 and divinity 2 are two separate beasts which just proves larian will not just make bg3 a divinity clone?
You fucking retard need to get back on your meds already

there was a time when I thought about BG3 every day but now I just don't know what to think

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stfu sperg. os2 must be a great game if you know so many intricate autistic details about it's combat normal players wouldn't even notice

>Baldur's Gate game only in name
>it's a lazy D:OS2 reskin
>but it's a DnD game like any other
Why call it Baldur's Gate *3* at this point?
>cashgrabbing intensifies

>Divinity 2 doesn't even bad humor
Only shit writing, shit atmosphere and bland, wacky characters
>le sex lizard
>le spooky skellington man

>baulders

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bg is meant to be played in order as it's just 1 continuous story. best way is to just play the EE since most mods already support it.

my recommendation: install both enhanced editions, download ee mod setup and install the trilogy mod

the game theme forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kraken_Society

>Implying I care when they all make their way to my store anyway

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maybe you should dipping into your own ale

by the way if you did not play it yet week ago i played neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/tales-arterra-lost it is one of the best module i did played

Larian made their comeback by creating their own template for Original Sin 1 and 2 rather than copypasting the infinity engine games
BG3 will be turn based because that's what Larian is associated with now

So are we getting 5e rules and classes? I'd love to recreate my Ancestral Guardian.

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Someday they should make a new Spelljammer game too

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prediction:
>michael hoenig is not the composer
>no writers from original games
>different cast
>different voice actors including different narrator
>set after the second sundering
>doesn't take place in the sword coast
>realtime combat

When is the reveal?

>HUMOR AND FUN BAD
fuck off, kys

well the chance that we will see any characters from BG1-BG2 is really low atleast i hope that the story will be with new protagonist

You ARE a bad tranny!

>>doesn't take place in the sword coast
i fucking hope so

I'm not questioning Larian's competence, they succeeded in making their own series, which doesn't mean they can successfully make a carbon copy D:OS game under a Baldur's Gate name. Hell, it might even turn up a great game, but not a good Baldur's Gate game.

how would you want your sister to respond to some manlet that called her a wench?

Dude your talking out of your ass so fucking hard. holy shit,
you know you have to back up claims, right?
>le sex lizard
The whole thing is someone asks if you want to fuck a lizard prostitute which leads to the dwarven gang taking your shit? likes theirs a point, and that's it. Its actually good writing to intrigue the player and lead them to actual quest givers at the same time
Don't worry user I also only add le when i want to seem smart and auto win something
>le spooky skellington man
Would you not shit yourself if you saw a skeleton man walking around? Like I don't get what you mean by spooky skelly man. it makes sense in the world, so whats the problem here?
you literally stated wacky characters AND Bland characters AT THE SAME TIME BOTH EQUALING BAD while ignoring the 100's of generic who gives a shit companions in baudlers gate
Shit atmosphere?
How, explain to me

>hire merc to protect you
>merc gets the knocked stupid
>becomes a literal retard who can't comprehend reality
>turn him into comic relief character
Not saying this is bad but i don't understand why Wizards haven't retconned his ass like they do with anything that was just in good fun back then but is seen as deeply offensive by SJWs today.

Brace for more population replacement propaganda.

please stop responding to him

lets just have comfy talks on what the game's plot might revolve around and what city it might be centered in

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What do you mean user? Why I only sell apples for two coppers

Is anyone else kind of worried? The main problem I see here is the amount of gap between what will get announced from what I think with modern game design philosophy and what BG1/2 were and how much the previous games may get discarded. The only game series I saw that survived something like that was the gap between DMC4 and DMC5 and having even a remake to break the continuity in the decade between those two games. But here, we're talking about trying to repeat something like that with a Western developer and a near 20 year gap which is 2x as long. And when you considered how the enhanced edition of BG2 was handled, I don't have my hopes up.

Thinking of buying Pillars of eternity on sale, both of them. If i enjoyed divinity 2 will i enjoy them ?

This is Larian not beamdog kindly fuck off

god I want to go back to Athkatla so much
>prologue shows some sort of catastrophic event
>300 years later you walk through the Atkathla ruins

*pickpockets you*
heh........ nothing personel bartender... now give me the merchants room.....

1 overwrites every little thing to the point you will start skimming 30 mins in
2 has sjw shit and by that I MEAN a lot of SJW SHIT
There both p good gameplay wise and offer a good challenge on harder difficulties
Overall I liked them but OS2 was better than both
If you really want a good crpg you should try kingsmaker instead if you hadn't

PoE 1 and 2 are astonishingly mediocre. The writing and effort is there it's just that nothing shines of quality. The companions aren't that interesting. The plot is okay and decently fleshed out but nothing that pulls you in. They're ordinary games that build themselves to be the spiritual successor of Baldur's Gate and they fail at that.

Beyond Divinity or Divinity Original Sin 2, either way it will be a very different experience to POE. I would honestly say try Pathfinder Kingmaker instead, I found it more enjoyable coming from OS to that over POE 1 or 2

What was his Stand Power?

honestly no if you want crpg try Pathfinder kingmaker well actually if you want short game for like 30 hours then maybe deadfire is not that bad choice
the setting is fantastic just the writing is really bad

if poe1+2 were released with the classic crpgs where would you think they would rank with icewind dale, bg, and even planescape?

ok i didn't even know about Kingmaker, looks cool in steam videos. I'll wait for a sale i guess

The reason Imoen joins you immidiately is because she's one of the few thieves in BG1 (technically you also get Montaron at about the same time, there's also some other bitch). Out of these, Imoen is probably the best all-around thief because of her maxed dex score, which makes her excellent at thief skills and a decent archer (so she's very low maintenance compared to a melee based thief like Montaron).

As such, you should level her thiefing stuff until she can reliably do all your thief tasks (finding traps, opening locks. If you want to you can also invest in her sneaking, since this is actually really good for not accidentally walking into strong encounters and you can also use a "scout" to set up vision based spells such as fireball).

Once you are happy with her thief skills, you can dualclass her into a mage. Try timing this with some part of the game where you can earn big exp bucks at once (perhaps only having her in the party as you finish a main questline or something like that). It helps when you quickly want to level the mage side.

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>Pathfinder kingmaker

man this game is too hard. can't get past the swarm of spiders in first cave area and finish the quest

summer sale is around the corner
Deadfire is honestly not that bad and most anons overblown the bad writing simply because they hate the sjw shit sprinkled in
its fun but kingsmaker/os2 is better

anonfile.com/Cd62Q8h2n0/doc1_rar
PASSWORD "maths"

Divinity OS 2 seems like it makes 1 completely obsolete, can I skip 1 if I put too much value on my own time?

see that's difficult to say but they'd be overshadowed. if they were made just as "their own games" then Baldur's Gate would be better in having a familiar setting instead of the donut steel setting PoE makes

Oh and that's another thing I forgot to mention. PoE is set in an entirely new world and stuff. New donut steel fantasyland. Because of this there's a fuckton of exposition and obvious bland inspirations. This is something Baldur's Gate has going for it being set in Faerun

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Is the EE for Pathfinder gonna be 60€ on release or is it more like an update?

it's about streaming and streamers so it might as well not exist for zoomers

Just use fire or come back there later. The game's easy, I don't dven know shit about Pathfinder system and I winded it using apparently useless profession.

update

Montaron is evil. Other good thieves are Coran and Alora but they came in way too late

someone open this and tell me what it is

*it's not

GIANT HAMSTER FROM OUTER SPACE!

LEAKED BALDURS GATE 3 COPY HOLY FUCK ITS SET IN WATERDEEP

it's this random pirate-ware call of duty

>you literally stated wacky characters AND Bland characters AT THE SAME TIME BOTH EQUALING BAD
because these characters are bland and not memorable, save for their defining gimmicks? Is it so hard to grasp?
>Shit atmosphere
The game can't set its tone, companions are negligible, you could avoid picking them at all and you'd still not miss out much. Hell, I've played D:OS1 at launch and still can't remember a single character or what the story was about. 2, while better, still leaves much to be wished for.

>Have a limited amount of actions to take and must carefully consider and evaluate what to do with them

>Pause autisticly frame by frame to micromanage everything, up to your maximum tolerance for tedium

I'll take the system that doesn't reward me for deliberately acting in as tedious a manner as possible.

W-we're welcome to have you m'lord

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Please don't suck, please don't be SJW shit, not baldur's gate, not this, please.

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Rtwp is literally less tedious and more tactical than turn based

most gamers are only SJW if you are incredibly paranoid or easily manipulated

Did you miss SoD?

this.
The fucking meme gets repeated so much that people here actually believe that a few out of context lines constitute the writing of the entire game.
Meanwhile, baldurs gate and the sillyness int hat aside, everyone still fucking says Deekin was a great companion in NWN.
These games were full of low hanging fruit humor and they also had a story, in the same sense, Divinity has a Story, OS2 in my opinion actually takes itself far too seriously, especialy around Arx.
but all these fucking spergs see are the out of context screencaps.

The best example is the "Kill the elf" thing.
It might sound silly, unless you get the fucking context in which the character is posessed and beeing brainwashed into killing a plot relevant NPC, to the point where the other characters have to either let an entire plot thread end or beat the shit out of the character to get her to snap out of it.
This retarded CRPG Muh Baldurs gate muh planescape purism is going on my nerves.
Its like people unironically pretending that Arena was the best TES game.
>shit atmosphere
yeah you didnt play the fucking games.
OS2 has god tier atmosphere. Especialy in places like Driftwood, Arx and even the fucking tutorial island.
Game is great at enviromental storytelling, lighting to fit each scene and audio cues.

The new NPCs are hit or miss. They're at their worst in BG1, but eventually find footing in 2, but by then a lot of people didn't bother giving them the time of day.

Mechanically the only really useful ones are Neera and Baeloth, the others are fairly subpar, like a frontliner with far below average HP, and a Monk, a class which takes until late in BG2 to become useful.

The EEs themselves are fine if you just want to play. Most of the 'controversy' is just grognard hyperbole.

That said, I'd suggest passing on Siege of Dragonspear for a first playthrough. I thought the writing was mostly fine, and the actual combat encounters great, but it's a pretty different experience from the rest of the series, and it has really nothing to do with the overarching narrative of the series. It's worth a look, but only on repeat runs.

>because these characters are bland and not memorable, save for their defining gimmicks? Is it so hard to grasp?
Dude that is 99% of all crpg companions including Baulders gate. What the fuck are you going on about.
Yes the red prince is a prince? I don't how thats a gimmick but mr 99th Drunk bg dwarf isn't?
>>Shit atmosphere, The game can't set its tone
The atomsphere is whimsical adventure with looming threat? Again your just speaking out of your ass, my guy.
>companions are negligible, you could avoid picking them at all and you'd still not miss out much.
Expect all of their arcs with some like ifan tying directly into the game?
>Can't remember a single OS1 charater
that's fair

>just because they're the largest company involved doesn't mean they'll influence it in any way!
I legitimately think you should die for being as Reddit as you are.

Everyone's taken it as a given it's BG3. Larian has changed the source descriptions since multiple times, though. It could just be D:OS 3.

so you're telling me
Google
fucking Google
is going to influence the development
of Baldur's Gate 3

t. Larianigger on damage control

lol i really doubt that there were others reference to the forgotten realms for example there were many references to forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kraken_Society

making it turn based will ruin it. yet more monkeys paw reboot bullshit.

Okay now lets talk about things that can actually go wrong. I'll start.
>bring back EE characters

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>different voice actors including different narrator
Hard to say.
Narrator is Kevin Michael Richardson. He's still very much active, and so are some of the others like Jim Cummings (Minsc), Rob Paulsen (Kivan) that I know of, and those guys are pushing 70.
It all comes down to money, since the cast has mostly been big budget Disney people.

you're really one of a kind

Deekin was my fuckin' bro in SoU and HoTU, but IMHO most of the party members in NWN and even the BG series are fairly one note.

>accidentally label the teaser image "baldur's gate 3" and quickly change it when you realize the mistake

yes, I'm sure it's just D:OS 3

Since people that call themselves writers today are hacks, expect some current time politics in dialogue.
You can't have weak women and gay bashing so medieval themes will be booted out in favor of stupid politics.
Each female character in your party will be either a Bitchest Bitch, Passive-Aggressive Girl Next Door or just plain dyke.
If we are lucky at least not choosing gay options or RPing an anti-gay character will not net you evil points.

thats a a surprisingly good your mom joke

naw hes right The insane amount of old game written good, new game written bad is insane
Bg is not a fucking Epic told though the ages its a generic tale with Generic npcs that are just their so you can play dnd by yourself you loser.
Which i don't even have a problem with, but holy shit the amount of fucking armchair shake-spheres in these crpgs threads is getting obnoxious

I think better arguments against are A) real-time with pause is not what Larian does, keeping in mind Divine Divinity was mandated by the PUBLISHER to be the way it is, and B) they don't really need Baldur's Gate. DOS turned out huge.

I liked Neera, but I know I'm the only one and that I've got shit taste, etc. Worse would be bringing back Dorn and Rasaad.

Can you imagine how much Yea Forums would seethe if someone like Shar-Teel was made today?

fuck yea, gimme them boots of speed.

Do you happen to know if you can mod BG1EE with the additional companion banter?

Because when I played through BG1tutu, I thought that the fanmade BG2-style companion banter really enhanced the experience. Even though it was fanmade, it added some distraction and made the game feel more alive.

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So...
you're telling me....
You're a potato-bodied soiboy...
still posting...
like a 6 year old twitter nigger....

Gimme the cancelled game.

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i'm still waiting for a proper red sonja game, or even xena one would be welcome too

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Nigger, you can't even tell their from there, you don't get to talk about writing.

The original writer of the Forgotten Realms setting is a dirty old man free love hippy, and when people brought up the trans character in SoD he said it's in line for the setting and was upset that people were raising a stink about it.

every single larian game so far was radically different from the previous one.
OS2 to OS1 is the closest theyve ever been to making " a carbon copy" of anyhting.
and the second game blatantly was just an extension of the first.
And even then, fans of the first think its a very very different kind of game. both gameplay and tone wise.
Larian has no" go-to" game design.
At some point they made a game abotu dragons with jetpakcs that somehow turned out to be an RTS and a waifu simulator.
Fucking chill dude.

Deflect harder faggot

Soul
Soulless

explain

I installed bg1 npc mod for eel i remember that includes the banters. Also, chatty imoen and the friendship mods are compatible with EE you just have to be mindful of the install order

>Those hideously oversized breasts
Hows it feel still being a hormone driven child?

>Game is set a couple hundred years after BG2
>Human fighter MC didn't ascend, romanced Jaheira and has been death for years
>You can romance Jaheira again in front of her sons
It's not like she hasn't done it before

>Have not one, but two part 3s of your own IP to develop
>Instead decide to dig up very old corpse and sodomize it to milk OH DUDE JUST LOOK AT THIS NOSTALGIA IM SO HYPE söy lads
I can't describe how horribly embarrassing it is.

>Rtwp is literally less tedious and more tactical than turn based
for fucks sake every time someone argues for turn based, they're out with opinions
>fun
>tactical
>ergonomic
>etc
Not even to say you're wrong, there must be some merit to your position, but opinions hardly warrant an argument

>wait until all 12 gibberlings in the encounter make their move just so you could proceed with gassing them
>less tedious
>characters neatly take turns without taking into account interrupts as it would be in real time combat
>more tactical
If you're feeling chad, you can play real time and ditch pausing

from what I understand core themes and ideas of that projected survived in pillars of eternity. of course, obsidian that made the latter is a far cry from obsidian in their glory days. just like how tyranny was conceptually the same idea avellone supposedly pitched aged age about a fantasy setting where evil had won.

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Its weird you people think like this
Everyone agrees os2 was good so at most were getting a good game
why does that make you seethe? Would you rather not have a new good game in your franchise you clearly like?

>not remembering "thots begone" jahan
well theres your shit taste.
OS1 was bascially just a beta test for the game mechanics.
OS2 is the story. Saying the characters of OS2 arent memorable is ridiculous.
Ifan maybe isnt. But Red Prince, Fane and Lohse definitly have memorable arcs.
Especialy with Red Prince they somehow made an autist whose obsessed with his ltieral waifu somehow owrk and be a good character, you have to give em credit for that.
>cant set tone
thats just blatantly wrong.
Divinity is great at tone. What you dont understand is that its just a different genre of fantasy.
its based on the literary tradition of the grotesque and is equally inspired by european fairytales and folklore than it is by Tolkien derivate fantasy.
And thats why talking to animals isnt "magic", its a trait that some people connected with nature have.
Just because you arent used to it, doesnt mean its bad.

fuck dnd rpgs and fuck dice rolls

you're awfully bright

RTWP can fill the game with combat and not be tedious since you're done with it pretty fast, it sucks for hard encounters since you can make every action counters when half of the time your character will be controlled by AI
Turn based need carefully crafted encounters or it becomes a slugfest but hard encounters are a lot more rewarding

To be fair both are flawed because it comes down to shitty design and incompetent designers. Have slow turn-based combat? Do away with random trash encounters that was my time. Ironically, I think Age of Decadence handles turn-based combat the best because every encounter gets treated as a mini-boss fight but this is balanced out by rare combat in the first place. Unless you specifically went for a combat character and even then the first rule still applies.

Bruh even Bioware lets you be homophobic

You are completely lost in your own propaganda. Please just think about why you feel the way you do and come out of the closet.

>baldurs gate 3
>what city it might be centered in
big think.

its gonna be a new story, im certain of it, absoluteley no chance its not set in the sword coast region and absoluteley zero chance it wont feature baldurs gate in it.

Why is BG2 so much more praised over BG1 when it's literally on rails? Set piece to set piece, whilst BG1 just throws you into a vast world.

Have they ever made a serious game?
I haven't played dragon commander but the few screencaps I've seen make it look more serious than OS2 but still a bit wacky

>half of the time your character will be controlled by AI

But just turn off the AI and micro. The simulatenous character action you can do in pause-based combat is what makes it the most enjoyable, like for instance pulling back a wounded character at the same time as you block with a tank.

>"the insane amount is insane"
>weird capitalization
>missing punctuation
>wrong form of there/their
>shake-spheres
do you honestly think you're qualified to determine what is and isn't good writing?

on codex somene did have fantastic idea about the sequel

’ve always thought that the struggles of a new FR deity could be pretty interesting. Think about what the Bhaalspawn would be up against: 1) few or no followers in a setting where a god requires worship to survive, 2) no divine portfolio to speak of, and 3) a fortress / headquarters that is still floating somewhere in the Abyss – not friendly territory, even for an evil PC.

Under those circumstances, I think a divine campaign would be a battle for survival. It’s suggested at the end of ToB that Cyric and his allies will be coming after you (whether the player is evil or not) because Cyric took over Bhaal’s divine portfolio. The player, as a nascent god, would be facing off against some powerful deities.

Terrible odds? Yes. But that’s great for a story hook.

Initially the player may just be staving off imminent disaster as Cyric and his friends move quickly against the player – several strong deities against a relatively weak one. I could imagine the player being forced to abandon the Throne of Bhaal and going on the run across the planes. The player’s goal would be to gain followers (faith=power), usurp the divine portfolio of another god, and carve out a base of power in the wider multiverse. Your journey could take you to some of the planes we’ve never visited in a CRPG – Mount Celestia, Limbo, and Mechanus, for example – as well as revisiting old favorites like Sigil, though seeing the City of Doors through the eyes of a minor deity could be a very different experience. In a divine-level planar campaign, the player might stir up a civil war on Mount Celestia, conquer a layer of the Abyss, or assemble an adventuring party of divine avatars. Ultimately you’d take back the Throne of Bhaal, smack down Cyric and his friends, and establish a place for yourself among the pantheon of gods.

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user i'm on your side, he sounds like a /pol/ obsessed retard but don't pull the you hate gays so you must be one

Based
Why do you think a majority of of the screenshots used by shitposters are from the first hours of the game? Yea Forums and RPGCodex shitposters don't actually play video games

BG2 has more entertaining companion questlines. It was also more polished.

With the right mods though, BG1 becomes superior.

>but man, that's like, your opinion lol
Cringe.
Rtwp not only is significantly faster than turn based since everyone acts at the same time, but also is it more realistic than everyone taking turns and waiting around. It also adds more tactics as I said before.

They are bareley connected.
If you want OS1, get it because you want more content.
OS2 is more focused on story and on a darker tone. OS1 is more whimsy.
People generally seem to be of the opinion that OS1s combat system is superior to 2.

That depends entielry on how much of a CRPG purist you are.
The argument seems to come from the fact that 1 has random chances for status effects and 2 has a "CC health bar"

Imo OS2 is the better game, but both are worth the time

Your over-analyzing grammar on a fucking anonymous post in hopes of devaluing someone without actually retorting back.
Do you think you should be qualified to talk about literally anything?

I just want a game where i can kill jarlaxle, is that too much ask?

yeah, but its gayer

I don't know, Kingmaker felt pretty bloated at times

Dude in BG2 all you need to micro are your casters
All the micro your melee needs is maybe drinking a potion, activating berserker rage and zerging the enemy casters once you take down their protections.

>It also adds more tactics as I said before.

Big fights are also much more fun in pause-based combat. You can get these funny situations where your caster is being chased around by a cave bear in one part of the village while your MC and Minsc are busy slaughtering smurfs in another

Waterdeep 100%

Personally I thought Pillars of Eternity was terrible because of the sheer amount of skills I had to pause for. Kingmaker though is fine, since half your party can usually auto-attack after some pre-buffing

>With the right mods though, BG1 becomes superior
Please, educate this lowly peasant, Master.

your entire criticsm was about writing, and seeming as you're not even capable of it yourself suggests you have no ground to stand on and your entire argument is horse shit to begin with. fuck off back to twitter you literal retard.

Suggest me some bg1 mods dude

EE

BGtutu to turn it into BG2 (including kits), companion mods for party interbanter and (if you are into that) romance mod (I wasn't into that).

Turns the game into BG2, but with BG1:s superior atmosphere.

writing = Just grammar
That's the kind of shit "smart" kids think to feel good in 4th grade
your on Yea Forums, not writing a thesis
Chill the fuck out
>your entire argument is horse shit to begin with
Doesn't retort it
if you just wanted to deflect, just say so little buddy

Divinity OS 1 and 2 don't have random encounters. Every encounter is placed for a reason, usually guarding something or being on-the-way to a larger area for a quest, and there are no repeatable or random encounters.

I think RTwP games tend to throw in random encounters more because the combat goes by much faster so people tend to care less. Traveling around in Pathfinder gets annoying when you just get random encounters of boring ass fights just padding out travel so its less boring

dont you have images of that one PoE companion to post, false flagging Rivalry sowing nigger?
Deekin is fun and i liked that he returned as an NPC in NWN2, but my point is that hes not exactly more than his gimmick and still remains amemorable character.
but hes not fucking Othello or Goethes Faust is he.
ive seen this with multiple games on Yea Forums.
basically a few spitefull anons post a few out of context screengrabs and people post the exact same recycled opinions years later.
Reminds me of elderscrolls online and the "Fancifull tales" picture. where some anons insinuated that the Colonel Sanders looking dude called the mainline TES games non canon.

Basically Yea Forums gets off to beeing high and mighty about a popular thing.
Larian got popular with OS2. I remember Yea Forums sucking OS1s dick so hard because "muh CRPG renaissance" "Muh old developer went indie" "Muh Divine divintiy!" which ironically holds the same place as Baldurs Gate does for a few people.

>thinks his retard opinions need "retorted"
>"your on Yea Forums"
you are literally, objectively, certifiably retarded and none of your opinions have value. kill you are self.

>Can pick between female/male narrator.

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Deflect some more
"I-I have counters, I just don't want to"

Not the same user you're replying to, but, Pillars of Eternity was terrible cause everything was so disgustingly over-balanced. Part of the reason why I love BG is cause you can pull off some patently bullshit manoeuvres in the start of a fight and still feel amazed in the realisation that the fight effectively lasted around 10 seconds in real-time. Instead of a full minute or two, because God forbid we have any fun tank classes or notable magic to cast. It's all just balanced for the sake of being balanced.

>everyone who doesn't suck Larian's dick likes PoE

I liked pillars but its the least exciting game i ever played
its the most boring straight mans rpg
Everything is their but at the same time theirs no rush to it
Deadfire was a bit better

>writing is spelling
why do you think writers have lectors/editors.

Oh look youre trying more of it.
I didnt even mention you liking PoE.

You are one of those 3 anons that for some reason deem it neccesary to stoke some ridiculous rivalry between PoE and OS fans.

This balance also makes the PoE so fucking boring after a while, once you realize you are playing the same encounter over and over again
>Okay, so these are mmy abilities
>wooow, that's a lot of pausing with six companions
>...I'm pretty sure this wolf encounter is identical to that bandit encounter a few minutes ago

PoE is pretty fun with only two companions (who are actually well-toned in their writing). The game goes to absolute shit once your party starts filling out and you notice that a majority of your party members are walls of boring text compared to those first two while at the same time fights become extremely unmanageable because of all the active skills in the game.

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Exactly how I felt, their world-building is great, but good God damn, I felt no desire to explore because the load-times are fucking horrific. Plus the characters are so wishy-washy, Eldoth had something going for him, but the fact that half the damn NPC roster is voiced by Matt Mercer doesn't help.

it's called weaponized autism, user, and it goes away if you stop responding to it.

>I didnt even mention you liking PoE.
>dont you have images of that one PoE companion to post, false flagging Rivalry sowing nigger?
You're a literal schizo

>Deadfire is honestly not that bad and most anons overblown the bad writing simply because they hate the sjw shit sprinkled in
it's not even the sjw stuff that makes deadfire's writing bad, it's that it's horribly mediocre. feels like the writing equivalent of a generic unity or RPG maker game, where it's there and it works, but you can tell nobody had any passion for it

the real question here is: can you be a barrelmancer in bg3?

>stadia connect
>nintendo direct

kek

i don't know about that its been a while, I just remember I really liked serafan and Eder
and cared less for the rest
your probably right because I can't really think of big moments with the rest of the cast

Yah. Like, fucking kill me whenever you try to interact with the Grieving Mother

Like fuuuuuck

dude people throw out greving mother and durence as good whenever avvelone comes into question
but fuck greiving mother is just words words words
and durence is the same but has a bit of charm and is semi important to the overall narrative with the whole nuking a god thing so hes alright in my book

Do we know how long the Stadia conference will last? It starts roughly 7 hours from now but I can't find a schedule anywhere

have you considered that it's actually you lacking passion and projecting that onto everything you read, rather than everything you read lacking passion?

Since hes clearly not in the minority, I dont think its an issue with him.

At this point Avellone is just a freelancer you hire for the additional PR value. In many of the new major games (POE, DOS2) he's hardly even played a major role in the actual writing. As far as I know his contribution has been writing one or two characters and some times being an advisor to the other writers
You might as well slap on a 'FEATURING CHRIS AVELLONE FROM THE ICEWIND DALE AND NEVERWINTER NIGHTS SERIES' on the game's posters

I mean he has a point and I Liked both pillars
its just so bland and 3x times the length it needs to be
I will however defend that both games have their moments like the dispute over the keep in the first game and starting a brawl to lead out a target in deadfire
also fuck you Yea Forums i love serafan

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doesn't matter because western devs have drunk the SJW cool aid and gone off the deep end. There is no way a new game won't be filled with bullshit politics with half the staff being minorities or women.

divinity 2 was mostly void of that?

As far as I understand the game has just under 3500 reviews on Steam and a "Very Positive" total score, so clearly there seems to be some disconnect between your opinion and reality.

baldurs gate kinda sucked. didnt play 2

Divinity 2 is a different game. Shut the fuck up and fuck off.

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Larian is a Belgian studio, not American, and none of their games have had noticeable "SJW" infections.

Poe1+2 isn't bad just kind of bland but still a good game
Yea Forums just takes it to the extreme per the usual because muh sjw shit in the 2nd game. before dead-fire killed the series /poeg/ was kino af

you know exactly what was being referenced you pedantic incel.

stop with this meme user, nobody cares about the oblivion ripoff

fucking pathetic... what the hell is sjw about Larian games?

Durance also talks too much, but at least he's funny in a creepy uncle sort of way

Grieving Mother just bores me to tears. Too much text, too pretentious is presentation, not actually interesting as a character, doesn't even fucking interact with the setting. A complete waste of a party slot, and that's even before you start dissing the bad disconnect between her playstyle and character presentation.

On a personal level I also thought the psykers fit poorly in the setting. Too much overlap with the general souls stuff in the storyline. DnD psykers are at least relegated to their own continent, which turns them into "exotic mages".

I'll admit to lacking passion user, that's part of why I consume media, to live vicariously through it.

But pillars is just shit media. Don't think I remember a single character for something they did that stirred emotion in me. Actually, no, that's not true. I remember some of the gods for being massive dicks, which I'd consider a good thing. Gods should be massive dicks to mortals.
Probably the only character I remember fondly though is one we don't even meet but only have described to us; that one god who when all the other gods decide to blow up the engwythians he steps in front of the meteor or moon or whatever it was and in a heroic self-sacrifice just takes it himself.

And that's literally is, and it isn't even part of the story, and I'm pretty sure we only got that moment because it was necessary as part of the story.

I'm reminded of Game of Thrones, since it's still so fresh. Earlier seasons were really engaging, and it's really why: GRRM writes his characters, as he says himself, without knowing where the story's meant to go. So when he has a bunch of characters in a room, he asks himself how those characters would act in that situation then makes that play out.
And then in the later seasons, we have the opposite of this. Every character turns into an idiot who "kind of forgets" crucial details or things right in front of themselves because the writing style has done a 180: Instead of asking how characters in a room would behave, they're asking what the characters would have to do for the story to reach the conclusion they want it to arrive at.

Pillars writing feels the same. No characters ever act like humans, but like puppets dancing to the tune of the puppet-master. This makes everything insanely boring, as all the weird things people do when they're placed in frustrating situations with imperfect information goes away. Instead, everybody acts perfectly as expected, because they all have a copy of the script.

>Durance also talks too much
So like the entirety of the game? It's written as if some college student is trying to inflate the text to reach the page quota.

why do you still play games then? i swear to god as someone who hate these leftists with passion this is getting ridiculous

>Viekang
Wasn't this guy the pussy that got teleported around Faerun whenever he was in danger?
How did he become a BBEG??

Yes user that's exactly what it feels like
anyone got that screen shot where it was honest to god 3 paragraphs explaining some rats attack you?
At that point the description is no longer fucking flavor

>Deekin was my fuckin' bro in SoU and HoTU
Best bro ever

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Saemon Havarian did nothing wrong.

The real question is why would Larian subject themselves to Wizards of the Coast autism?

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>in a couple of hours

well?

Are we finally going home, lads?

youtube.com/watch?v=k-BbW6zAjL0

>yet another sequel to just suck dry the original fans of the series
Why be excited? Video games are quickly becoming the movie genre where they can't create their own ideas and just draw on past sucesses.

definitely the most interesting character in bg trilogy beside edwin and solaufein

>>Respec/stat redistributions for the entire party are free and removes all sense of consequence and progression when building and customising your character(s)
Good. In a game thats meant to several dozen hours long, theres literally no reason to punish the player for not knowing that X ability or Y build would turn into dogshit after a certain point.

I feel like I've been lied to. really feeling it.

>Pillars writing feels the same. No characters ever act like humans, but like puppets dancing to the tune of the puppet-master. This makes everything insanely boring, as all the weird things people do when they're placed in frustrating situations with imperfect information goes away. Instead, everybody acts perfectly as expected, because they all have a copy of the script.

I get what you're saying, but this isn't really a metric by which most people judge whether writing is "bad" or not, simply whether it's realistic, believable, "flawed human" or not. Many people prefer cliches and "perfect" interactions between clear cut heroes and villains rather than grimdark drama and intrigue between shitbags in a world where nobody is really the good guy.

>6 hours

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who give shit what you feeling

I do

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>6 hours until all is revealed
HOLY FUCK I'M FEELING IT

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ok ok sorry

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I remember reading that I should buy the original version of original sin 1 instead of the enhanced one. What's the difference?

what's the point of giving the game to Larian if not for their experience in turn based combat?

Larian isn't Beamdog you fucking retard

that was my main problem with PoE. too much exposition that treated the player like an idiot. if they had simply cut 75% of the multifarious verbiage and let mood of the world tell the story more, it would have been an amazing game all around.

I just walked into a town with a large central tree, on which there hang dozens of corpses. that's a pretty vivid moment, ruined by the next 4 hours of more or less mandatory talking to everyone who tells me all the shitter details about the tree and why the bodies are hanging from it, then another 45 minutes talking to a ghost of one of the corpses on the tree itself who babbles on about a bunch of other vague and unrelated things. The entire game is such a fucking slog that I was unprepared for given the decent pacing of the prologue/tutorial dungeon.

cause a company can make more than a single genre user?
Larian made a shit ton more things than just turn based also fyi

Not sure why anyone would recommend that
If I remember correctly the EE version of the first game improves every aspect of the game. You get both versions if you purchase the game anyway

Original sin 2 and maybe 1 are what put them in the spotlight, their games before that were mediocre at best

>mfw he makes it to BG3
He survives all the way till ToB, even if you gib him on his ship or tell shadow thieves to hunt him down and rip out his ass, his reappearance would be plausible with some bullshit.
On another note, hope that the current Faerun setting doesn't shit up the world with its bullshit like spellplagues and Maztica being replaced/reappearing

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okay but still your insane if you think the only reason they hired larian is cause they the turn based guys? They were hired because they made a rpg people liked, they can do more than a single genre

go for the EE if you did not play the original and if you dont want to bothering with moding the game it is the best solution just be warned that BG1 may be not so fun if you are from younger generation on the otherhand BG2 i would say is still fantastic in every regard

there are a few exploits in the original version that they cut from the EE,

I seem to remember they completely nerfed the overpowered Lone Wolf playstyle into the ground, but that might have been a mandatory patch to the original version and not something they changed for the EE. Ironically I hear they did the exact same thing for D:OS 2 as well.

thats an argument made for Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 but not Divinity OS.
there's no reason not to play the EE unless you want the broken/unbalanced experience of the original release

Everyone has to believe in something. Even us "boomers"

>the best way to play a party based rpg was with a two characters
>they did it twice
Fucking lmao larian

for DivOS2 Lone Wolf was nerfed but it's still extremely strong.

they basically capped you putting points into skills to rank 10, used to be the case lone wolves could take their skills all the way to 20 without assistance from items or buffs.
so nowadays your just forced to be more versatile, but it still works

In OS1 classic you could have both lone wolf and glass cannon at the same time, but in EE you could only pick one of the two. The same also applied in OS2, but lone wolf was still absurdly broken in OS2 classic since it gave you double the amount of skill points upon levelling up. I believe they changed that part in OS2's enhanced edition but I never played that version so I don't know for sure

They'll fuck it up, I'm sorry.

The 3rd option seems like the most normal and neutral.

IMO Durance is amazing when he interjects when talking to someone else, but directly talking to him is a chore

>Edwina
UMF/10.

>yet another lukewarm rehash that is a pale imitation of the original
yawn and yikes

> the psykers fit poorly in the setting
IRC the writters messed up and often confused ciphers with watcher

>They're gonna shit it up with turn based
zoomers get out

Imagine the writers going though the mountain of text every day to try and keep consistent
fuck i would forgot too

>implying zoomers don't want BG3 to be turn based because D:OS2 was their first cRPG
Enlighten me

based zoomers saving this shit, and pulling you faggots into the future

>Own BGEE 1+2
>Own D:OS 1+2
>Never played either of them

Which should I start with?

DOS2

divinty 2 is a good starting point
than bg1
then bg2
and you can skip os1 if you feel like it

DOS 2 followed by BG2 EE. Skip the rest.

Better than being a s o y boy.

>zoomers shitting up another franchise they were not interested in in the first place
>boomers drop the game because it hjas nothing in common with baldur's gate series
>zoomers drop the game because it's not exactly like D:OS2
Yea I wish an entire genre consisted of just one game.

are you implying that adult males don't find women to be attractive? are you sure you're not just a homosexual?

I don't remember anything, I should play the previous ones again or is it a new story with new characters?

They're going to fuck this all up aren't they?

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it'll almost certainly be a new story, the Bhaalspawn's storyline ended with ToB.

my guess is
this will be the first proper 5e D&D game
they're using the BG namesake for effect, but the games will be unrelated other than the fact it will be centered on the Sword Coast and probably have BG as it's major city

It'll be okay. Last I heard was Larian hired Gaider as a consultant to help them work making the best Baldur's Gate game ever.

lets hope this is not the case ....

I can't wait but I'm staying cautious. I loved Larian's past titles but I don't want another turn-based-combat rpg with quirky dialogues. I hope they deliver something fresh, at least combat-wise, and authentic (I do hope they keep the narrator idea though)

its a reference of a false flagging retard spamming the picture of eder from PoE in OS2 threads prior to its release user

>want something fresh
>wants basically everything different about divinty 2 to just get baulders gate another one

Learn the difference between there and their, faggot.

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He didn't write either though. He made the drafts but majority of that was removed and only bits of his writing remained.

yikes imagine seething this hard

he wrote Fane who is arguably the most Plot relevant of the Origin characters in OS2.
All the other characters have stories seperate to the main story such as Red Prince finding his waifu, Lohse getting rid of her Demon, Beast killing his sister and so on.
Fanes story is basically the backstory to the central conflict.

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If it's being released a fucking Stadia exclusive then it will literally be nothing but streaming. Which is why it's hard for me to be as excited about this as I should be. Fuck.

>he wants baldur's gate 3 to be a baldur's gate game true to the series
Did I get that right or am I deluded into strawmanning?

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EE has more content and more polish.
Original has more interresting combinations of abilities, such as "Container explosion" for the ranger which got moved to necromancy as corpse explosion in EE and 2.

But generally get EE, theres no real reason not to.

my guess is that it isnt set in the current timeline but either paralell or just after the originals timeline.
They can force em to use 5E but i dont see em forcing them to use the new timeline.

5e is going to make the gameplay a borefest.

the fucking Irony.
CRPG fans seem to insist that every single game in the genre is made in infinity engine.
And that CRPG equals RTWP, none of you fuckers played ToEE?

well, at least Irenicus kind of wanted Bhaal-related things

who has ever claimed bg writing is anything good? it's serviceable.

>What could go wrong
>Turn based
stopped reading. i've been playing crpgs since before most of you fags were born, i got bg at release on its like fucking 7 discs or whatever the fuck.
proper turn based is an improvement in every way. d&d is turn based, crpgs are all turn based, rtwp is just a half assed garbage implementation of turn based combat that hides important information from the player for no reason

wanting more of the same is fine, but pretending you want changes while clearly just wanting the same is retarded

He was a true chad too

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user but you forgot
old good
new bad

It is.
another reason i want it to be turn based.

in a turnbased game, battlemaster is somewhat feasable, and thats the only good melee class in 5E.
Im actually starting to look through some 5E class options to figure out what party combination could actually be fun to play.
But that relies on em porting all that to the game.
Then again, 5E isnt exactly filled to the brim with character options, at least compared to 4e and 3.PF

Btw. im pretty sure its gonna have both options.
Larian prefer turn based for CRPGs (They were forced by the publisher to make Divine Divinity real time and diablo esque and sven is still salty over this) but the IP will require them to do RTWP.
my guess is that theyll have both options, turn based like divinity but based on 5E rules, and RTWP.
OS2 already has the option to use all its mechanics in real time justoutside of combat,

>putting literal tutorial area where you can't do shit over comfy af Beregost

That's bull.

Won't it ruin the actual Baldur's Gate 3? Murder at Baldur's Gate

The video games are completely separate, all the books or manuals ever did was retcon shit from the games most of the time anyway. Real bg = the games

>Avellone wrote Fane

That explains why Fane felt so fucking creepily friendly and grabby.

Why does every character Avellone write come off as a creep one step away from sexually molesting you?

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>stopped reading.
It shows
Guess your attention span isn't what it used to be (or likely never was), eh, grandpa?

ifan is also p involved with the main story

no idea.
certainly fit the character.

I'd recommend the mod that gives you earlier access to companions, because companions like Tiax or Quayle don't ever make the squad because of the story lock and it's fun not to use same shit over and over again

Sarevok was part of the bhaalspawn storyline
Irenicus hijacked the bhaalspawn storyline for his own purposes

a true chad

yeah but hes the "muh male human fighter" protagonist trap option.
Making you think hes the "canon protagonist" and then his story fizzles out in act 1 and he gets tangled up in Elf race war.

Literally every nostalgia obsessed boomer that has played BG2 back in 2000 acts like it's still the best game ever and constantly mock newer games like POE and D:OS for having wacky/unserious writing when in reality BG had more xD shit, dialogue loops, and piss poor options crammed into it than all the new games combined

I rarely browse /tg/ but there are a few good/fun melee builds out there

>Warlock/Paladin multiclass for smiting for crazy damage and adding your charisma to everything
Have fun proning fags or trying to land your power attack while I smite them with the force of one thousand suns and shrug off spells like its nothing

>Polearm tunnel fighter fighting style, polearm master and sentinel.
Fighters come online a bit earlier but it works on any class with a fighting style.

>male human fighter
he's actually more of a sneak archer

I never got past act 2, is that where that goes
it was hinting at elfs when your on the bridge leaving driftwood

the first of these doesnt sound fun just realy strong.
Im mostly a forever DM so im used to playing with some more outlandish mechanics.
When i get to actually play a character every once i a while i tend to gravitate towards fighter types.
And in almost every game i play i get to "roll d20 to attack, roll d8 to do damage, nice turn user"
Doing more damage aint more fun, i want something like 4E warlord.
Even DSA the German autist RPG has maneuvers for every martial (even thot hey are bareley useable but thats german RPGs for you)
Battlemaster seems to be the only Martial archetype that gets any utility.

I guess that explains it best. I want options on my turn. I want to either do A or do B and have both options be viable. Not "Do A but very well"; thats what Barbarian is. Do A and do A very hard , and by "A" i mean "rage and do realy big damage"

>The whole thing is someone asks if you want to fuck a lizard prostitute which leads to the dwarven gang taking your shit?

What am I supposed to do? Say no? That, my friend, is not an option.

I am a 29yo boomer that replays BG quite frequently and I would never give it a sacred cow status that (for me) is reserved for Torment, Deus Ex or Arcanum
BG (most notably 1) is full of charm, but it's a very by the book fantasy adventure. The only things I'd consider good writing are the dreams (I remember at least 2 that I genuinely like the writing of), some between-acts narrative (mostly because of iconic voice acting in my language) and baiting me into thinking it'll be dark and edgy with Nietzche quote before the intro

I can't remember if I liked anything particular about BG2 writing because I tend to replay BG1 so all that is etched into my brain are Jan Jansen comic relief dialogue and the bridge district murderer quest that I thought was good and spooky

Act 2 is, IIRC, the de facto end of his questline. But compared to Red Prince and Sebilles lines that end in Act 2 it feels kind of shallow.
All 3 of these arcs end with a Boss fight, but Ifans feels lamer.
Sebille gets her ebin revenge (and the mechanics involved are interresting) and Red Prince finally gets some answers.

Ifan mostly knows exactly whats going on by that point, why Alexander did what he did, what the Magstiers want and why.
Actually killing the fucker for good doesnt exactly feel like the climax of a story.

Truth beeing told, all the origin quests pale compared to lohses.

>Guess your attention span isn't what it used to be
>user continues to explain how he prefers turn-based combat, which requires more attention span

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>game is gonna get ruined by bad larian humour

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Irenicus was a literal incel. Not even close to Chadrevok.

I took sebilla, ifan, and red prince
I do know the definitive edition changed a shit ton of beast story in act 3, so does that mean beast story goes on far longer then most even tho literally no one gives a shit about him?

I actually assumed all of the arcs end at act3 not 2

Being uncertain of what you truly think and know is a sign of getting old and senile
Make sure you ring the bell the next time you soil your diaper so the nurse can change it

i think they will try to get to be edgy as possible just to get to rid of the reputation

what's Chad about Sarevok?
>retarded plot involving muh iron economics that involved a retarded half-orc cleric with an army of kobolds
>almost dies while trying to ambush the MC for no reason whatsoever
>possibly dies to mass spam Animate Dead
>becomes MC's bitch and sports a retarded goatee forfeiting his GOAT armor which could've been his redeeming quality as a companion

>larian humor
>bad

I get that you don't want the game to be a dripping sarcasmfest, but you need to know your taste in comedy is shit.

you seriously think they won't use Boo for "talking animals are so funny!!!" shit

Lohse and beasts end in 3, Fane ends.... at the end depending on choices.
Lohse and Fane get special endings (they are not good endings)
Sebille Ifan and Red Prince end on the Island.
I still like Red Prince the most but in review, the ending is not nearly impactfull enaugh.

Actualyl come to think of it, i think theres still something to Red Prince in Act 3, im replaying the game right now and just arrived in Act 3 so ill see soon. Last time i only had him as an NPC so maybe i missed some things.

Hopefully.

You have to be underage to enjoy that shit.

Right i forgot mature adults such as yourself only listen to the classiest of Drumpf jokes.

I boomer and think BG2 is garbage outside of gamepaly and companions. BG1 was better. Planescape and Fallouts are better RPG games

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you just sound like an awful person to be around desu
>me no like jokes unless its from old game
>me have big brain

Who are you quoting?

>were far past the point of green text being only used for quoting old man by like a decade

>You walk as a mortal, taking no advantage from your heritage, from your talents within. So many things of flesh are greater than you.
>Walk among them, these beasts that are less than you are. See their strength; see how easily you fall to their muscle and skill.
>Why do you stand for this? Why do you submit to the flesh, when death is bred in your bones?
>Do you realize the power you might hold? When the world of flesh is beneath you, even creatures mysterious and magical will fall!

VS

>NOBODY HAS AS MANY FRIENDS AS TE MAN WITH MANY CHEESES
>LOL POOP! POOP XD!
>LOL IM A WHACKY IMP WHOS TOTALLY NOT. COP-OUT BY WRITERS TOO INSECURE TO WRITE A SINGLE SERIOUS CHARACTER LOL

We're*

One thing I'm cautiously optimistic about is how they'll handle individual character interactions
An user linked a random interview from a couple of weeks ago where Sven said they were aware that the character interactions weren't present in OS2 which he admitted was odd since they were there in the first game. I love it when there's banter and dialogue between party members that you can't control. It really helps make them feel livelier and can set the tone for the game
I just hope there will be plenty of different companions this time around instead of only a handful

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(you)

Baldur's Gate is dead and buried. The Beamdog revival was mostly a shit show of content no better than fan mods, except siege of Dragonspear which was a bunch of railroading hacks doing worse than fan mods.

This is just like fucking Dark Alliance, in that it has nothing to do with the Baldur's Gate that people loved. New D&D game? I could get behind that. Trying to use the BG name to sell based on nostalgia? I've been burned by that so fucking much I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

Its just so tiresome at this point
Fine dude a the few comedy relief characters most from os1 proves larian bad old game good
you got us

You, obviously.

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>muh iron economics
Sarevok wanted to instill fear in the populace that national strategic ressources waned in quality, due to alleged sabotage from a foreign power, thus forcing the people in power to believe that the foreign power was preparing an invasion and then arguing that Baldur's Gate should mount an pre-emptive attack.

Don't buy it then user like fucking jeez your options are a game from a studio that makes good games in a franchise you like or nothing and that franchises stays dead you fucking spaz

LOL >thinking it will be good

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Can't wait for another "crpg" that:
>has no reactions to your race or class
>awful romance
>every race is a different sized human
>bad writing

>sjw writing

most of this is false but whatever helps you think your old game is still good user

Why would larian suddenly be good at writing when they've never made a crpg and only turn based arpgs?

yikes imagine trying this hard to dislike something you never played dude

You want newer games that shit all over Dos?
Underrail, PoE1, pathfinder, Age of Decadence. Idk how anyone can play through DoS without cringing all the way. It wouldnt be as bad if every character didnt have VO read by the most obnoxious VAs.

>turn based arpgs?
baldur's gate was just an arpg you could pause. what's your point.

then dont play it

I mean your just lying to fuel this unjustified anger
how the fuck am i going to compete with that, so whatever dude.

imagine unironically having this bad of taste.

Nice argument

your literally just lying to win
I can't be delusional retards, so gg

>cowgirl whos entire personality is dude orcs suck so bad haha

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It's not a franchise, its a trademark at this point.

Larian games just appeal to people who want good combat and not really get into the story

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prefer divinty 2 story over generic fantasy trying to hard bg

Because you don't like rpgs and your small brain cant handle reading.

t. Has never finished either BG

>states opinion
>LOL UR JUST RETARDED
>Why are you faggots so defensive all of the time?
Hmmn

If you actually want to experience a story then go read a fucking book. And by that I don't mean listening to an audiobook.
Video games are a mediocre medium for writing an in-depth story

Who are you quoting lilzoom?

To be honest, neither of the two Baldur's Gate is able to stand out above your typical Salvatore tier fantasy shit. I'm not saying Larian does things any better though.

I hope we get a qt shortstack halfling companion

why are you deflecting so hard?

looks like you've been feeding your wife's son too much onions

This is the saddest trope ive seen used to defend shitty retarded opinions. Idk how anyone can say this without realizing how absolutley retarded they sound. Unless youre baiting.

Quit editing your posts.

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>rpgs that sold well only because twitch streamers and their audience are now considered masterpieces on Yea Forums

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>that garbage III symbol that looks as if from a random FPS
>no bhaal skull symbol in sight
Utterly disgusting.

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>sold well only because twitch streamers
Imagine actually believing this
Maybe you've spent too much time here

FUCK

God i hate low effort mosaics that just tint the source pictures and expect people not to notice.

any decent nwn module?

DoS is the fortnite of rpgs

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what fuckign twich streamer was play divinity 2 user?
you guys are delusional at this point, keep screaming it doesn't have good writing all you want nobody will listen to you faggots outside of this thread.

Nobody's listening to them here either.

forsen

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No one watched that stream and even if it was the full forsen audience and for some reason literally every single one buy a copy(lol)
that's likes 20 k dude
wheres the fucking other almost 2 million?

I immediately thought about Dark Alliance III, when I saw it for the first time.

How can you be excited?
Larian has ZERO experience with cRPGs. And no, Divinity is not a cRPG.
Even current day Obsidian without Avellone would probably do a better job than Larian.
It feels like people just fell for the OS meme while failing to realize it's as radically different from a cRPG as it can be.

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thinking a literal who will help your argument
why do you guys insist twitch streamers have any power in non pvp games?

>the same 20k people watch a stream every day
retard

>they go for the extremely uggo OS2/NWN2 3D portraits

Oh, that would have been fucking sweet. It's been years since we've had a good couch co-op hack & slash. I miss Snowblind.

divinity original sin is just babbies first "rpg"
larian would betray their core audience by making this new game an actual crpg

>Divinity is not a cRPG

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>"Zoomers" seem to want BG3 to be turn-based under pretext of refreshing the formula
>"Boomers" want the game to remain RTwP
the way I see it.
Wouldn't it make sense for the *sequel* to remain true to its franchise?
>RTwP
>new campaign, new MC
>the campaign at least at some point takes you close to the Baldur's Gate city
>choice of recruitable companions, of which at least some percentage is memorable, like in BG2
Don't you get it, that ToEE was turn-based not because it's DnD (actually Greyhawk, but DnD's system) but because it's a different franchise. If they want to make a turn-based game, why don't they make a Div:OS sequel or expansion, a ToEE sequel, or any other DnD game/spinoff that doesn't have "Icewind Dale" or "Baldur's Gate" in the title, which were RTwP. The "3" in "Baldur's Gate 3" implies it's the next installment in the same series as Baldur's Gate 1 (+TotSC), BG2 (+ToB), not a spinoff of Dark Alliance or the continuation of the latter.
If they want to call it the third part of Baldur's Gate series, the game has to have some things in common with 1 and 2, and I believe that being RTwP is one of these fundamental things, and it's not going to be a story continuation, since Bhaalspawn's story is closed.
tl;dr
>they want to make TB? there's D:OS, ToEE or they can make a new DnD-based title standing on its own
>they want to make a next installment to BG 1 and 2? make it RTwP as these two games and their expansions were, otherwise it's more in the direction of a lazy cashgrab under the name of a classic
I swear to god, I'm convinced some D:OS2 fanboys seem not to tolerate any cRPG other than D:OS2 and want to *change other games* under guise of refreshing the genre to homogenize them into looking like D:OS2.

Oh my god user
you know how ridiculous you sound
of course how could i forgot the 2 million forsen streamers who tuned into two streams (only like 20k in each stream, don't think about the math) and saw divinity 2 and said
"lets ALL buy that and defend it on Yea Forums for all time"
Because you can't handle that your an angry man trying to hard to shit talk a good game
and everyone else isn't you and likes it quite a lot.
the fucking twitch streamer boogymen shit is getting too annoying, every fucking wow thread boils to that.
Nobody cares

>divinity original sin is just babbies first "rpg"
>both role-playing and combat being more in-depth than in any other modern "CRPG"
What have you been eating, Tom. You're not well.

>Larian's core audience is original sin
Hm. Guess Dragon Commnader and Dragon Knight Saga didn't happen then.

That's like saying Atlus core audience today is from SMT SJ and Persona 2

Those games sold like 2k copies total

2befair user anything before os bombed p hard or barely broke even
we will never see dragon commander 2 and that makes me sad

>Dragon Commnader and Dragon Knight Saga

never heard of these

Stadia schedule WHERE
The wait is killing me

The only way a BG3 could possibly be good and SOULful in current year is if it was done by a team of slavs.
ATOM, Kingmaker etc

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It is. What the fuck do you think core audience means? Here's a hint, it doesn't mean the new kids that picked up the most popular game in the series.

>you know bg is so fucking boring every thread of it since the leak is dominated by divinity and poe talk
Lmao boomers BTFO

Why are slavs so good at making rpgs anyway?

it starts in 4 hours or so

>ATOM
I forgot that game even existed, what happened to it? I remember there were threads about it for a couple of days after its launch but I never played it myself

I mean everyone just wants to it to be another action rpg like OS

it's bretty gut. like wasteland meets stalker.

I disapprove of making BG3 a TB game with D:OS-tier writing or humor, but you're mostly wrong.

I know, but I want a schedule of the presentations
I don't want to sit through however many hours it's going to take

It's finally complete, without DLC that they have planned but balanced and ironed out with 1.1 release.

You should be asking: Why are they so good at making games in general?

Naw You got a bunch of delusional little kids thinking bg is god tier writing and defend real time for the sole purpose of old games did it so that = good, right?
Even tho DnD is fucking turned Based LMAO

it's only 1 hour long presentation dude

They are one of the few devs left who make games that they love with love instead of corporate souless bastards working for AAA garbage.
They also don't fall for the zoomer casual audience unlike 99% of current devs.
Take Kingmaker for example and the shitstorm that insued just because you needed to prebuff with Resist Lightning to take on Wisps, or the Spider Swarm deblace.